Speaker 1: Do you want to be an americanity?
Speaker 2: Scott blown back down seven hundred. Wow, we've got basketball,
Speaker 2: We've got spring arriving at ten forty six this morning.
Speaker 3: And that's the good news. That's the good news.
Speaker 2: The bad news is the Ohio Supreme Court did nothing yesterday.
Speaker 2: Judge in Franklin County also denied a temporary straining order
Speaker 2: and starting well, starting at midnight, right today, right now,
Speaker 2: as people go to watch basketball and go to places
Speaker 2: like fifty Western Urban Artifact to have some beverages, you
Speaker 2: will not be able to get a THC infuse beverage
Speaker 2: in the state of Ohio. It's now banned across the
Speaker 2: Buckeye State and those manufacturers are left hold in the bag.
Speaker 2: Scotty Hunters a co owner and founder of Urban Artifacts,
Speaker 2: and he's on the show this morning.
Speaker 4: Scotty welcome, Good morning, Scott Pleasure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably the best, maybe sadly the best thing
Speaker 2: you doing today. I mean this is this has got
Speaker 2: to be hard. The Supreme Court at nak the tro
Speaker 2: in Franklin County was denied, so the band is now
Speaker 2: in effect. You got march Man and this, you got
Speaker 2: beautiful weather. People want to get out and have a
Speaker 2: good time.
Speaker 3: Walk us. What the morning feels like insider of an artifact.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's uh, you know, we're waiting right and we
Speaker 5: we were hoping that the Supreme Court was going to
Speaker 5: make a ruling on our case. Yesterday did not come
Speaker 5: to pass, and you mentioned the other release didn't didn't
Speaker 5: get there, so uh, you know, it's just kind of
Speaker 5: you know, undecided. You know, we feel good about our case.
Speaker 5: We we think that it's strong and that the governor
Speaker 5: will be you know, rained in in terms of this power,
Speaker 5: and I think that's good follow Highlands. But yeah, just
Speaker 5: waiting around trying to figure out what we go to
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what what what goes on right
Speaker 2: now and if the Supreme Court does something to so,
Speaker 2: but you know, for people to do, does hey listen,
Speaker 2: I drink beer.
Speaker 3: I don't drink tight on thh. I don't care.
Speaker 2: I think you should because this is about your rights
Speaker 2: as a consumer. It's about your rights as an adult.
Speaker 2: In a sense is that you had a people have
Speaker 2: strong saying what they wanted, want to and just want
Speaker 2: to consume what I want to drink, smoke, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: And it's pretty overwhelming the number of people who support this,
Speaker 2: and yet the governor in particular, the legislature and even
Speaker 2: the courts aren't listening to the people in this case.
Speaker 2: Give us a kind of an idea of how much
Speaker 2: of your business model had THHC beverages becoming and what
Speaker 2: does losing that revenue stream mean for your business and
Speaker 2: others like it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we you know, we projected a lot of future
Speaker 5: growth on that, especially as we were doing business planning
Speaker 5: and end of last year into this year. We did
Speaker 5: temper those expectations when some of the federal language passed
Speaker 5: in the fall, but we still have hopes that that
Speaker 5: gets corrected before before November this year. So you know
Speaker 5: what it what it means is, you know, if we
Speaker 5: don't get a favorable woulling today, you know, we will
Speaker 5: have to reassess kind of what we what our needs
Speaker 5: are on the production side. You know, we expect that
Speaker 5: it'll definitely give us a little bit of a hit
Speaker 5: on our on premise sales. People coming out that you know,
Speaker 5: they just don't drink alcohol, period, doesn't matter. There's no
Speaker 5: alternative for folks like that. So you know, hopefully we're
Speaker 5: not having some of those conversations, and we're just discussing
Speaker 5: how we continue to grow this category and get some
Speaker 5: permanent legislation on the books, you know, before we get
Speaker 5: to that December time frame in Ohio in November for
Speaker 5: for the federal right.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, is there any indication first of all, of
Speaker 2: the Ohio Supreme Court that they may see your way in? Secondly,
Speaker 2: what about the federal law that's going to go in
Speaker 2: effect later this year because of this outcry and because
Speaker 2: of the attention here are federal lawmakers presuming they're actually
Speaker 2: paying attention, which it doesn't seem like they are going
Speaker 2: to override this thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it can feel that way at times.
Speaker 5: But you know, all indications from across the industry in
Speaker 5: terms of the federal landscape is that, you know, there's
Speaker 5: been very good progress made and you know, people understand
Speaker 5: the need to get this correct, especially you know, the
Speaker 5: farming industry, talking countries that would invested years and years ago.
Speaker 5: I just kind of getting a love pulled out from
Speaker 5: under them.
Speaker 6: Yep. As well.
Speaker 5: So we you know, we're we're we're feeling we're feeling
Speaker 5: good about that nothing's done, it's al's done with the
Speaker 5: Feds as you know, and it doesn't doesn't move quickly unfortunately,
Speaker 5: so you know, we'll just we'll just have to.
Speaker 2: Wait and see, all right, So presumably you have inventory
Speaker 2: in hand right now.
Speaker 3: So what happens all that stuff?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's it's no longer in the state of
Speaker 5: while based on you know, some legal advice that that
Speaker 5: we are given and some feedback from some of the
Speaker 5: state agencies, although you know, they haven't really sent out
Speaker 5: proper guidance yet for any of the folks poording temp
Speaker 5: processor's license in the state. Yeah, it get all got
Speaker 5: moved out of state because you know, if you read
Speaker 5: the law and the response from the DCC, you could
Speaker 5: be charged with drug trafting if you are possessing one
Speaker 5: of these products. And I'm you know, I'm quite worried
Speaker 5: that they're gonna do a sting operation if the people
Speaker 5: start going to party tours you know over North Kentucky
Speaker 5: or some of the other great litter stores we have
Speaker 5: over there and bring it back over to the state
Speaker 5: and bus somebody to try to make an example and
Speaker 5: just you know, that's not how we should be operating
Speaker 5: as a as a stay and as adult.
Speaker 2: So a beverage let's get this straight here a second Scotty.
Speaker 2: So we're just saying the beverage that is being produced,
Speaker 2: consumed and enjoyed by countless hundreds of thousands, if not millions,
Speaker 2: of Americans nationwide in many other states, uh in the
Speaker 2: Buckeye State in Ohio with the Taliban, if you're in
Speaker 2: possession of a can of THC a liquid a liquid drink,
Speaker 2: I guess all drinks are liquid, but I don't know
Speaker 2: what what cagor to call this r THHD infused drink
Speaker 2: that you can be charged with. I got a six
Speaker 2: pack and now I'm facing time in a federal press.
Speaker 2: I can see that as like you're in there with terrorists,
Speaker 2: You're in there with people who are white collar criminals.
Speaker 2: You're in there with rapists and murders. What do you
Speaker 2: win for? I had a six pack of sunflower. It's
Speaker 2: almost too bizarre to believe.
Speaker 5: When I read that, I just had to reread this
Speaker 5: few times because I didn't. I felt like I was
Speaker 5: living in an alternate reality, honestly, where this is where
Speaker 5: we're going as a as a state, and how we're
Speaker 5: treating our adults in the state, and what they're chooting for.
Speaker 6: Better legal products. Right, Yeah, it's crazy to me.
Speaker 2: It really is something and this she hot against anything THHC.
Speaker 2: But it's part and personal I think for this legislature. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I'll call out people I generally support in
Speaker 2: this case because they're dead ass wrong on it, including
Speaker 2: Governor Mike DeWine, who's a friend of the show in
Speaker 2: the station.
Speaker 3: I couldn't disagree more.
Speaker 2: He has always had it out for marijuana, doesn't understand it,
Speaker 2: doesn't get it, doesn't think we need it. And he's
Speaker 2: entitled to his personal views as a citizen. What I
Speaker 2: don't think he's entitled to do is use that mindset
Speaker 2: into simply, you know, line not m vido something. There's
Speaker 2: hardly any challenge whatsoever. It's going to get rubber stamped
Speaker 2: and moved through that that countless millions of people enjoy.
Speaker 2: It's not addictive. It's as probably less harmful than that.
Speaker 2: It can make a case it's less harmful than alcohol.
Speaker 2: And I know you sell both Bob or Scottie and
Speaker 2: and for him just to go, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: like it, so no one should have it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: That's totalitarianism, that's anti business. All these things Republicans the
Speaker 2: geoplate claim.
Speaker 3: To be, they're not.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 5: And there were some very prominent trade groups that have
Speaker 5: been supportive of this category that I thought, would you know,
Speaker 5: really stem some of that tie because you know, the
Speaker 5: these these long's relationships and all this in business, right
Speaker 5: and politics. Yeah, and I and I felt like we
Speaker 5: had a lot of the right people on our side,
Speaker 5: and you know, they'd gotten through to a lot of folks,
Speaker 5: and they did on you know, in the Senate House,
Speaker 5: but apparently, you know, in the Governor's office, we didn't
Speaker 5: quite get there. So, you know, it's it's just it's
Speaker 5: just something where the we feel very good about our
Speaker 5: case with the Supreme Court because of how, you know,
Speaker 5: the governor essentially rewrote legislation. He changed the legislative intents
Speaker 5: of the House and the Senate, and that's just not
Speaker 5: something that we can have stand constitutionally in the city of Ohio.
Speaker 5: It's far too much power to be in one individual
Speaker 5: to strike and rewrite laws with potentially no confluence.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Scotty Hunter Khenor, founder of Urban Artifact, buring on the show.
Speaker 2: If you didn't know THC beverages in Ohio and Ohio
Speaker 2: illegal as of midnight. If you're caught in possession, whether
Speaker 2: you could be charged with drug trafficking, which is is
Speaker 2: laughable because they got this thing. You just took your
Speaker 2: supply and you're selling it in Kentucky. Kentucky and s
Speaker 2: don't seem to have a problem with the drug addiction
Speaker 2: there like we do in the Taliban state of Ohio.
Speaker 2: But the I think it's interesting too because I had
Speaker 2: State Senator Steve hoffmanan and he couldn't agree with us
Speaker 2: more on this one. He's definitely an advocate as a
Speaker 2: physician too for that matter. You know, if it we're
Speaker 2: that bad, would a physician be saying, go ahead and
Speaker 2: sell the stuff?
Speaker 3: It's not that big a deal. He told us the.
Speaker 2: Beverage industry had a He thought it was a pretty
Speaker 2: a very weak legal argument. And this is of course
Speaker 2: he's not he's a doctor, not a lawyer. But from
Speaker 2: his people that he consults with said that the line
Speaker 2: not in vitas. That happen all the time. And in
Speaker 2: that regard, was he right that did did you have
Speaker 2: like maybe false hope about your chances in this case?
Speaker 4: You know, I don't think so, Scott.
Speaker 5: The line on anvito is pretty It's simply spelled out
Speaker 5: in the state Constitution and it's it's items and relating
Speaker 5: to appropriations of money. There was nothing to do with
Speaker 5: what the language that was taken out by Senator first
Speaker 5: our Governor de Wigne. It wasn't solely an item. It
Speaker 5: was paragraphed and it was sections, and you know, it
Speaker 5: was you know, a large chunk of that bill struck
Speaker 5: out and nothing to do with money. None of those sections,
Speaker 5: none of those items, you know, even if you want
Speaker 5: to try to say that they're an item. And I
Speaker 5: think what people don't realize is that they've only seen
Speaker 5: that line in vido in our lifetime used appropriately and constitutionally.
Speaker 5: So when it happens and it's unconstitutional, people don't necessarily
Speaker 5: recognize it because it's not happened in like I think
Speaker 5: the state ball went back fifty years before there was
Speaker 5: a ruling to stop the abidos. So it's just not
Speaker 5: in the consciousness for people to understand that the governor
Speaker 5: could be doing something outside of his constitutional right.
Speaker 2: From a little I know about law, but other than
Speaker 2: I talked to you thought that the dormant commerce commerce
Speaker 2: clause argument dormant commerce clause, which basically says that a state,
Speaker 2: in this case, Ohio, can't favor its own state made
Speaker 2: products over out of state competition. You can't pick winners
Speaker 2: and losers. That seemed like your strongest card. Were you
Speaker 2: surprised that the court wasn't persuaded.
Speaker 5: Well, just one quick clarification. You know, I was aware
Speaker 5: of that suit supportive. We weren't a plan of on
Speaker 5: the suit that was ruled on yesterday, so you know,
Speaker 5: I don't know it as in as grave a detail,
Speaker 5: but I was kind of shocked, especially because you know,
Speaker 5: we had there was some examples of these state agencies,
Speaker 5: you know, like we're talking about saying that you know,
Speaker 5: if you're possessing this, you're going to be a charge
Speaker 5: with drug traffing potentially, and you know that that impacts
Speaker 5: trucks going through the state. And that's that's where I'm
Speaker 5: very shocked at, you know, and sorry Tiro was not granted,
Speaker 5: because now there's gonna be trucking companies looking at Ohio
Speaker 5: and they don't want you know, if they're bringing legal
Speaker 5: products from Minnesota down to Kentucky or Florida, what have you,
Speaker 5: They're not gonna want to go down seventy five and
Speaker 5: come through Ohio if they have a fear that their
Speaker 5: truck drivers might be stopped, might be charged with drug trafficking. Right,
Speaker 5: That's that's the headache that nobody wants. And that's and
Speaker 5: that's why they're doing the commerce projectives right, So state
Speaker 5: can't do that. It's been challenged. Other states have tried
Speaker 5: to do this in the past. It loses in mettle
Speaker 5: quarter one hundred times out of one hundred. So but
Speaker 5: it doesn't mean that it won't cause fear and strife
Speaker 5: and all these things and make business part of just
Speaker 5: you know, not for Ohio ins outside of the whisle.
Speaker 4: All these things.
Speaker 2: Now you got me laugh and then it's a serious topic.
Speaker 2: But I just picture a semi load full of product
Speaker 2: THHG and fuse beverages trying to get to Ohio from
Speaker 2: another state being chased by Jackie Gleason, Burt Reynolds. Isn't
Speaker 2: a trans am and a woman in a white wedding dress.
Speaker 2: You got Jerry Reid and a and a dog in
Speaker 2: a truck trying to divert them. And it's it's like
Speaker 2: smoking the bandit For God's sakes. Other states have it
Speaker 2: and we don't. We can't get it. Are you do
Speaker 2: you have a fear that this is going to tamp
Speaker 2: down innovation because that's the engine that drives American commerce,
Speaker 2: course innovation. That's where gdp is word is. This is
Speaker 2: against any of those principles.
Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely, every beverage manufacturer in Ohio is now at
Speaker 5: you know, a disservice or sorry, disadvantage to other producers
Speaker 5: across countries. You know, we we sell our brain in
Speaker 5: a ten other twelve other states and now you know
Speaker 5: we have to look at out forcing that production to
Speaker 5: some other states. So there's you know, jobs and revenue there.
Speaker 5: But in addition, it gives us far less flexibility to
Speaker 5: be creative and nimble and innovative, like you're saying, within
Speaker 5: the category, because we can't produce it here, we can't
Speaker 5: test that here, we can't do a lot of things
Speaker 5: that we could do that are very advantageous for us
Speaker 5: as a beverage business. And you know that's where the
Speaker 5: you know, the banning the retail beverages is one piece
Speaker 5: of this which we don't agree with. But then also
Speaker 5: to say you can't manufacture and possess for out of
Speaker 5: state sales is even a step that I couldn't have
Speaker 5: expected Ohio to take because of you know, it's a
Speaker 5: very very manufacturing and agricultural driven state, and so you're
Speaker 5: taking out, you know, jobs that from both right, people
Speaker 5: can't farm, you know, the way the law is written.
Speaker 5: You mentioned it's not just hemp beverages, but farmers are
Speaker 5: not going to be able to plant crops with hemps
Speaker 5: in the state and process them. You know, if we
Speaker 5: talked about the drug trafficking, we talked about kentucking hemp beverages,
Speaker 5: but the same applies for recreational marijuana from marijuana.
Speaker 6: Sorry, Michigan.
Speaker 5: So now the way SPA fifty six is written in
Speaker 5: the past, you could be charged and stop if you
Speaker 5: are brain you know, you go over it even if
Speaker 5: you're not intending to like you know, bulk up, like
Speaker 5: you're just visiting people you bring in them or one
Speaker 5: from some other state. Now it's illegal, it's illegal marijuana.
Speaker 6: And you can be charged. Yeah, like that's not that
Speaker 6: doesn't that doesn't make.
Speaker 5: Any sense to me as uh, you know, law abiding adults.
Speaker 5: If you do something legally in one day and you
Speaker 5: bring it back to Ohio, you know how why should
Speaker 5: be able to get in trouble for that, And it's
Speaker 5: just in the you know, confines of your own home, right.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they'd look at it too and go, well,
Speaker 2: you have your Second Amendment and guns, well you should
Speaker 2: be able a lot. Okay, again, it's not constitutionally protected.
Speaker 2: I get the nuance there. It's not part of the
Speaker 2: Bill of Rights and aren't atable. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: it's the will of the people. It's like it's commerce
Speaker 2: and a bunch of other things. If you're trying to
Speaker 2: be pro business friendly, this sets you back, in my opinion.
Speaker 3: So urban artifact.
Speaker 2: I mentioned fifty West and Bobby and you guys are
Speaker 2: joined together in the suit, and many other manufacturers across
Speaker 2: the Ohio who probably aren't part of the suit, who
Speaker 2: don't have the resources to do that. Are they going
Speaker 2: to be able to I mean, are you gonna be
Speaker 2: able to survive this? It's fifty West and be able
Speaker 2: to survive this. Are you aware of any businesses or
Speaker 2: breweries that may not.
Speaker 5: I'm not Scott because everybody you know, it's their own business.
Speaker 5: But you know, I can imagine that things will look
Speaker 5: different for a lot of businesses because there was so
Speaker 5: much of you know, that that revenue, that production tied
Speaker 5: up in this growing category. And you know, even if
Speaker 5: it's only ten percent of your business, you know that's
Speaker 5: a big hit right now when when beer sales and
Speaker 5: alcohol sales are are trending down and you have a
Speaker 5: ripple effects across the whole whole supply chain. So you know,
Speaker 5: I don't know of anybody immediately other than you know,
Speaker 5: folks like that were solely focused on that. And there's
Speaker 5: a couple of manufacturers I know that you know, they
Speaker 5: exclusively were doing cam beverages. They are either moving out
Speaker 5: of state or closing up shops and and that's kind
Speaker 5: of the I think the scariest part to me is,
Speaker 5: you know, as of today, there's probably thousands and thousands
Speaker 5: of the Highlands that have just lost their jobs because
Speaker 5: of the passage of passage.
Speaker 6: Of this bill.
Speaker 5: And now we're going to have to economically support all
Speaker 5: the boss jobs and they're not coming back, right like,
Speaker 5: there's not just like a you know, the store funds
Speaker 5: if you don't whether whatever you feel about the hemp
Speaker 5: shop and things like that, you know, the storefronts are
Speaker 5: going to set vacant right therese they aren't getting backfield.
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of economic impact for the whole
Speaker 5: state that it's going to start being tellt in very
Speaker 5: near future.
Speaker 3: It's something else.
Speaker 2: I mean, Spring starts in a little over in an hour,
Speaker 2: Scottie Hunter, you've got March madness. The bars and restaurants
Speaker 2: will be packed with people. The doors will be opened
Speaker 2: down at the Holy Grail. Banks are doing a Miami
Speaker 2: watch party today at Holy Grail. The place will be packed,
Speaker 2: swamped with people wanting to drink and enjoy a long weekend.
Speaker 2: Maybe taking today off just simp to enjoy spring because
Speaker 2: mother old man Winter's dead, it's his funeral, He's going
Speaker 2: to die at ten forty six today, and so many
Speaker 2: people would want to consume those beverages. The timing of
Speaker 2: this thing is is just the worst part of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I agreed. And you know some of the
Speaker 5: excuses were made about federal law. That case, federal law
Speaker 5: will go into place and you won't have to worry
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 6: Right, Why did we want to.
Speaker 5: Be more restrictive and in a quicker fashion when there
Speaker 5: is the ability to give your in state operators more
Speaker 5: time to adapt. Because we all knew that the federal
Speaker 5: pieces there right. Everybody was then business planning on that
Speaker 5: and deciding how they're going to operate. They didn't expect
Speaker 5: a ninety day accelerated and it wasn't even clear because
Speaker 5: the summary, the summary just went up like last week
Speaker 5: for the bill in terms of what it did. There's
Speaker 5: been no guidance from the ODA, there's been no guidance
Speaker 5: from the DCC. All the state level agencies that are
Speaker 5: supposify guidance for folks that are in this business have
Speaker 5: those licenses. Absolute radio silence. And that was the toughest
Speaker 5: part because now you're having to sort through that bill
Speaker 5: that was signed and you have no guidance.
Speaker 2: Well, the other element here too is the Feds could
Speaker 2: very well over to say yea, we're not going to
Speaker 2: do this, go ahead and make your TC beverages were
Speaker 2: good and now you guys got a ramp production. It's
Speaker 2: going to cost you more money to get back online.
Speaker 2: And that's the hope. And they were pessimistic as opposed
Speaker 2: to optimistic as to what the federal legislature do. He
Speaker 2: is a Scottie Hunter Kohner and founder of Urban Artifact Brewing.
Speaker 2: Fingers crossed at the Supreme court intervenes today. I hope
Speaker 2: that's the case. If so, we'll get you back on
Speaker 2: right away. And I hope that that is the case
Speaker 2: up in Columbus. Scotty all the best and hang in there, man.
Speaker 4: I appreciate Scott, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Take care you bet there you go very latest on that.
Speaker 2: Enjoy the games. You just can't do it with a
Speaker 2: THHC drink because if you do, when you try to
Speaker 2: bring it in from another state, Jackie Gleeson will be
Speaker 2: chasing you like he did Burt Reynolds and smoking the bandit.
Speaker 2: It's unreal. Seven hundred WLW. Hi Scott filling here on.
Speaker 3: Seven hundred w LW.
Speaker 2: So we've heard the story of the age Ol store
Speaker 2: about renters v. Landlords and there's an effort to reduce
Speaker 2: repeat emergency calls to rental properties. And you know sometimes
Speaker 2: there are properties out there and people renting that are nuisance.
Speaker 2: At least in Kentucky, common sense is king because there
Speaker 2: they're proposing a law which would address chronic nuisance occurrences
Speaker 2: at the properties, a three strikes in your outlaw and
Speaker 2: on that is Boone County Commissioner Jesse Brewer, working with
Speaker 2: state REPTJ. Roberts in Northern Kentucky for house spilled three
Speaker 2: three seven that would do justice.
Speaker 3: Jesse welcome, how you been?
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm great. Thanks thanks for vting me on. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it all right, give me the details of though,
Speaker 2: First of all, why is this needed? How big a
Speaker 2: problem are the nuisance tenants in Northern Kentucky and Boone County?
Speaker 7: So well, it's not just Boone County. It's everywhere.
Speaker 6: This is it.
Speaker 7: It's any area where you have rental property. What if
Speaker 7: you get someone that's successively abusing public services? You know
Speaker 7: there this is This is for the person that plays
Speaker 7: for Radio two loud all the time, or maybe partaking
Speaker 7: in some substances they shouldn't partake in. The neighbors smell
Speaker 7: it and complain or whatever the case may be, what
Speaker 7: they call neighbor. Someone calls nine to one one, The
Speaker 7: police have to go out there, The paramedics have to
Speaker 7: go out there for whatever reason, and also not it's
Speaker 7: taking away from their job of what they should be doing,
Speaker 7: you know, because they have to respond no matter what,
Speaker 7: because what if it's that one time there is really
Speaker 7: a problem, Right, So they got to respond. Well, after
Speaker 7: they do this so many times, the cities in counties two,
Speaker 7: they can tell the property owner, hey, we got a
Speaker 7: problem here at this property.
Speaker 6: We've been here at X y z times. I'll you know.
Speaker 7: I had a tenant in a building in the city
Speaker 7: in Kenton County, and I think the police were there
Speaker 7: eighteen times in a thirty day span because he would
Speaker 7: just went and quit playing the stereo aloud, and then
Speaker 7: they were kept calling, and so the city came to
Speaker 7: me and said, hey, you gotta do something about this
Speaker 7: or you're going to start finding you. Well, under current law,
Speaker 7: if a tenant's paying their rent, you can't just give
Speaker 7: them a seven day notes to vacate for non payment rent.
Speaker 7: I know Ohio is three day, but in Kentucky at seven,
Speaker 7: you can't just give them a seven day non payment notice.
Speaker 7: You gotta file thirty day eviction notice. You gotta file
Speaker 7: thirty day notice to vacate.
Speaker 6: Then you can of victims.
Speaker 7: So they'll get me there, pronuncio two to three months. Well,
Speaker 7: what House Soil three thirty seven will do is it will
Speaker 7: allow us to shorten that length and that notice period,
Speaker 7: shorten it up, allowing to get them out quicker the
Speaker 7: NW sense, which is for less of austral of public services.
Speaker 7: The property owner can then maybe get a tenant in
Speaker 7: there that's a good community member. Lower their costs, you know,
Speaker 7: because you got a person that's doing this things tearing
Speaker 7: the place up. Lower my cost, I lower my operating costs,
Speaker 7: I lower my housing costs, housing gifts cheaper.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, that makes sense. Let me jesse.
Speaker 2: Let me play devil's advocate for just a second. I
Speaker 2: like being the devil's advocate here. This happened in Ohio
Speaker 2: years ago when we had when gun crimes are starting to,
Speaker 2: I guess become more of an issue than they are now.
Speaker 2: Seems kind of quaint to think that wasn't the case.
Speaker 2: But they decided, hey, we're going to sue gun man
Speaker 2: if we're going to have their gun manufactured. Then the
Speaker 2: defense was, well, you know what, why are you soon
Speaker 2: as well? Because the cost police fire, emergency responders and
Speaker 2: all that stuff.
Speaker 3: It's a fall the gun.
Speaker 2: What wind up happening is that, well, no, that's why
Speaker 2: police fire and MS exists is in order to do that,
Speaker 2: you can't sue someone for doing their job in that case.
Speaker 2: Does that apply here in that. Yeah, it might be
Speaker 2: a nuisance and it's training resources. But police fire and
Speaker 2: MS exists to respond in this case. Nuisance sentence. Police
Speaker 2: exists to respond to things like that as part of
Speaker 2: their job description.
Speaker 3: Is that an affirmatile defense?
Speaker 7: It could be, but then they're going to look to
Speaker 7: you as a property owner because they have ordinances on
Speaker 7: our boats that says you have a problem ten here
Speaker 7: that's creating and creating us to be called come here
Speaker 7: too much, stucking up too much resources, and we're.
Speaker 6: Going to start charging you for these trips.
Speaker 7: Or you've got a problem here with this tenant because
Speaker 7: the resident that you're responsible for because we are here
Speaker 7: too much, got it because it's there. So it's I
Speaker 7: feel what you're saying on that. But with the ordinance
Speaker 7: and laws are in the books, we are kind of
Speaker 7: forced as property as to do something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because then I could I could turn that around
Speaker 2: and go, okay, well if I got to make if
Speaker 2: we're making multiple runs to the same place over and
Speaker 2: over and over again, could that not apply to I
Speaker 2: don't know, a sports stadium. Could that un apply to
Speaker 2: a university? Could that not apply let's say to a
Speaker 2: nursing home where you you know again, whether it's police
Speaker 2: fireing mess. Okay, there's a nursing home here where I live,
Speaker 2: and in every other day there's a squad out front,
Speaker 2: largely because the people inside are the age where they're
Speaker 2: passing away or suffering the debilitating or stressing the medical
Speaker 2: emergencies as comes with old age. But no one would
Speaker 2: agree that, hey, you know what, we should target a
Speaker 2: nursing home because of all the response calls we have
Speaker 2: there because they're abusing the system, correct.
Speaker 7: And that's where the abuse is the system going to
Speaker 7: come in as a specific person. If you have a
Speaker 7: nursing home a large department store, you're getting calls as
Speaker 7: different people, different issues, or they're legitimate medical emergencies. And
Speaker 7: again this doesn't get triggered unless the cities or the
Speaker 7: municipalities cite the property of yeah so, and they're not
Speaker 7: going to do that unless it's a legitimate abusive that's
Speaker 7: the legitaries will be there, but they're not going that's
Speaker 7: those triggers wouldn't happen.
Speaker 3: Got it, got it?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And in Cincinnati, I don't know if it's changed since
Speaker 2: or not. I don't own proper Encincinnati, but for a
Speaker 2: while they were talking, Hey, you know what, if you've
Speaker 2: got a you have a tenant that's a problem. After
Speaker 2: a couple occurrences, we're going to start finding the landlord.
Speaker 3: I go, wait a minute, now.
Speaker 2: If I've got a grown ass adult living in one
Speaker 2: of my units, am I responsible to drive by several
Speaker 2: times a day to make sure that individuals not playing
Speaker 2: their music loud or smoking weed in the yard or
Speaker 2: doing it? And of course not that that's on them, not,
Speaker 2: that's not the landlord.
Speaker 7: I don't disagree with you at all, And but they
Speaker 7: look at you as their screen or responsible person to
Speaker 7: put them in there. Mike Keunterden, Well, if they owned
Speaker 7: their own house, so you start signing fighting, then yeah exactly,
Speaker 7: said the police source said, yeah, we will.
Speaker 6: There's orgiousness for that.
Speaker 7: I was like, oh, okay that because the people who
Speaker 7: are irresponsible we won't hold accountable.
Speaker 2: We'll count the typical in America, the people who are
Speaker 2: responsible accountable. We're gonna hold them responsible as opposed to
Speaker 2: the people are even though they're all adults. I can
Speaker 2: see it doing for a kid, but these are grown adults.
Speaker 6: Correct.
Speaker 7: And a lot of times when the first responders in
Speaker 7: the cities don't necessarily understand how landlord tenant law works,
Speaker 7: and they're like, get this person out of here, let's
Speaker 7: do process. I gotta give them a thirty day notice.
Speaker 7: I gotta wait for this. I gotta you know, there's
Speaker 7: hoops I gotta jump through, and they don't understand that.
Speaker 7: A grasp that and they get frustrated with you. So
Speaker 7: ideally this would allow us to identify the problem that
Speaker 7: apple is a few and speed up that time to
Speaker 7: save resources, preserve property. You know, if I got a
Speaker 7: tenant that's just junking up the yard and jumping dunk
Speaker 7: junk cars in the yard, doing this and doing that,
Speaker 7: I gotta let them sit there and continue to damage
Speaker 7: the property for an extra month under the current wall.
Speaker 6: Assuming that rent. This way, I can streak. I get
Speaker 6: the streak the problem, lower my.
Speaker 7: Cost, get a better ten in there, make the neighbors happy,
Speaker 7: make the police have apartment, our department happy, code enforcement happy,
Speaker 7: and everyone wins.
Speaker 2: And it's good for the nator's if you you know
Speaker 2: the other thing, Jesse Burwer by their Boone County Commissioner
Speaker 2: on this three strikes in your outlaw that's being proposed
Speaker 2: in Kentucky, meaning that if police have multiple calls, we'll
Speaker 2: get the details of that. A second, multiple calls to
Speaker 2: a rental property. Uh, you can, as a landlord evict
Speaker 2: that person that that holds them accountable for their actions.
Speaker 2: Because the way is in Cincinnatis, it was is all right,
Speaker 2: we're going to go after the landlord if it's a
Speaker 2: new sentenant. Okay, well, can I victim? Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no, that's that's damn near impossible to kick kick
Speaker 2: these people out because you know, you got to go
Speaker 2: a course the whole probably Well wait a minute, hold
Speaker 2: on just a second. Here, this is Jesse. I like
Speaker 2: you because your common sense kind of guy like me.
Speaker 2: This is just damn common sense. Get into the details exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: get into the details of what the triggers for this
Speaker 2: eviction would be.
Speaker 7: So first of all, it starts with if people just
Speaker 7: do what they're supposed to do and be normal human beings,
Speaker 7: you don't have anything to worry about. Right If if
Speaker 7: people just do the right thing and and not be
Speaker 7: an a hole, you know, then you wouldn't have any issues.
Speaker 7: But this is designed for you know, you got someone
Speaker 7: that's likes to put off a bunch of crap in
Speaker 7: the yard of the property and make it unsafe. They're
Speaker 7: putting cars or putting refrigerators or whatever they want to do.
Speaker 7: I had this happen to me. Well, city site you
Speaker 7: as they rightfully should.
Speaker 6: I get that.
Speaker 7: Okay, they're gonna site. If you can't do this, we've
Speaker 7: got to ordinance FI get this. You know, after about
Speaker 7: three or four of those you like for when you
Speaker 7: always find a stack up, and now they're like, get
Speaker 7: this person out of here. You know, we keep coming
Speaker 7: over here to deal the decisions. This person needs to go. Well,
Speaker 7: they pay their rent, so I got to go file
Speaker 7: a third day notice to vacate on them, and then
Speaker 7: I can file an addition after that if they stay,
Speaker 7: and that's another thirty days. Right, Meanwhile, you're still dealing
Speaker 7: with the same issues and the frustrations growth. Or you
Speaker 7: get another person that you know they like to play
Speaker 7: the stereo a little too loud and the neighbors are
Speaker 7: constantly calling the police. Well, if they show up about
Speaker 7: three or four or five times within a certain times, man,
Speaker 7: they will send you a love note that says we're
Speaker 7: going to start finding you. Mister property owner. You need
Speaker 7: to get your tenant community orders rules in line. So's
Speaker 7: there's some layers that have to happen here. You know,
Speaker 7: you have to have an excessive repeat offender that that
Speaker 7: that has unfounded you know, call for service, then the
Speaker 7: city would have to cite you or or then the
Speaker 7: city would say okay, this is the problem. They give
Speaker 7: you the notice, then you can do the three day
Speaker 7: notice of vak as this law of proposed gotcha and
Speaker 7: shave a month off the shave a month off the process.
Speaker 2: So you have to have what three three strikes in
Speaker 2: a would you say, six month period.
Speaker 7: That's what the current that's how it is currently written.
Speaker 7: But it's a lot of the stiff fall discretionary to
Speaker 7: when the city is also cite the landlords. There's still
Speaker 7: gonna be some bugs to work out here. I think
Speaker 7: the three months has three, three and six months. But
Speaker 7: the city doesn't cite you, or the county doesn't cite you,
Speaker 7: then there's no trigger there. They have to be the
Speaker 7: one to take the step to site you.
Speaker 2: What about an element of discrimination? And here in a
Speaker 2: sense that because I'm just trying to think of how
Speaker 2: how one may counter this argument in poke holes and
Speaker 2: help the law become better let's say, for example, Uh,
Speaker 2: there's some bad neighbors and they don't like the person
Speaker 2: living there because they're young, they're old, they're white, they're black,
Speaker 2: they are I don't know, gay, straight, whatever it might be.
Speaker 2: And like the neighbors are like, wow, you know, are
Speaker 2: they You know I've seen this one before too. But
Speaker 2: belive in our political affiliations, we don't want this person
Speaker 2: the neighbor.
Speaker 3: You do that?
Speaker 2: How do we know that those are legitimate calls for
Speaker 2: service and complaints as opposed to someone just trying to
Speaker 2: run someone off of property.
Speaker 6: And that's a good point. That's it to be worked out.
Speaker 7: And I believe if the spirit of the law would
Speaker 7: be they are the problem, not someone calling on them
Speaker 7: for someone that they can't control, like one of those
Speaker 7: types of things. Okay, you know you still have they
Speaker 7: everyone still have the First Amendment right. They still have a right,
Speaker 7: you know, freedom of speech and see whatever of religion,
Speaker 7: political affiliation they want. And if they're you know, spare
Speaker 7: housing has a lot of protections there and someone's calling
Speaker 7: just one of those onreed reasons, and the city gets
Speaker 7: there said, well, this isn't.
Speaker 6: Really have found a complaint.
Speaker 7: They can't go back on you and make you violate
Speaker 7: fair housing to move someone out because of the color
Speaker 7: their skin, or they're religion or family's destined and everything.
Speaker 2: Why yeah, I mean you could always find you a
Speaker 2: neighbor doing something you disagree with, but calling the place.
Speaker 2: Some people do that. They're vindictive, they got nothing better
Speaker 2: to do. I've seen it happen. I'm sure you've seen
Speaker 2: it happen with with sentence as well. And whatever the
Speaker 2: issue is, it shouldn't cause you to lose where you
Speaker 2: live because it's the it's the other person's problem, not yours.
Speaker 7: And that's would be where they have to have a
Speaker 7: valid nuisance violations, not something that's what you suggested.
Speaker 6: What would that that's something of it, Jesse Brewer.
Speaker 3: Would domestic violence calls be excluded from this?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 6: I hope so.
Speaker 7: And that's something I would hope so because that's a
Speaker 7: safety issue, right, I would definitely hope that you would
Speaker 7: have domestic violence issues be screened on that. And that's
Speaker 7: a tricky one because you don't want anyone to be
Speaker 7: in an that stage situation. So I believe that's what
Speaker 7: would be need to be excluded from that. As a
Speaker 7: domestic violence called absolutely Boon.
Speaker 2: County Commissioner Jesse Brewer on the Scotsland Show seven hundred
Speaker 2: w all over but his hospital three thirty seventies helping craft.
Speaker 2: That would three strikes an out rule for chronic nuisance tenants.
Speaker 2: So if you get three service calls within a six
Speaker 2: months parent the granted, those have to be verified and
Speaker 2: this person has to you know, you get eighteen noise complaints,
Speaker 2: as you said, you should get run off and it
Speaker 2: gives three days notice for a landlord to evict you.
Speaker 2: If you are one of those people who are using
Speaker 2: a lot of the resources. You mentioned this about saving
Speaker 2: money and allocate proper allocation resources. Uh, there's overtime costs,
Speaker 2: there's equipment where how prow big a problem?
Speaker 3: Is this really? How many nuisance tenants are there?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 3: Is it a huge problem or.
Speaker 7: The Kentucky it's enough to where we're talking about it right. Uh,
Speaker 7: it's one of it's one of those issues. Is it
Speaker 7: is it? Is it detrimental to the business? No? Uh,
Speaker 7: but this would just prevent a problem. Yes, it's a problem.
Speaker 7: It's it's not that we have a lot of these problems,
Speaker 7: but when you have one, it's a big problem, or
Speaker 7: could be a big problem and very falsely problem uh
Speaker 7: for the cities to.
Speaker 6: Dispatch services for the property and every thing else.
Speaker 7: So you know, if I have one hundred tenants, you
Speaker 7: know this might be one or two of them. But
Speaker 7: when you start multiplying, now you know, across all the
Speaker 7: rental property and everything else, and compounding it, and you
Speaker 7: know you you know, you have ten thousand pieces of
Speaker 7: rental property nation of city. There's a lot of services
Speaker 7: on a police department, fire department to be wasted.
Speaker 2: Not much of a deal at the Northern Kentucky University
Speaker 2: or Mount Saint Joe. But what about UK Louisville, big
Speaker 2: universities where you have a large number of young people
Speaker 2: like to have fun and be allowed at all ours
Speaker 2: a night. What about UK Louisville and schools like that
Speaker 2: relative to off campus housing, well, KHUS it could.
Speaker 6: Be little different.
Speaker 7: So I get it's that it had to be the
Speaker 7: triggering of the calls from the police to the landlord.
Speaker 7: But a lot of those cities already have ordinances in place,
Speaker 7: and what they're going to do is they still if
Speaker 7: you have a problem, they still are going to make
Speaker 7: you get rid of them.
Speaker 4: This isn't like there's so many.
Speaker 6: If I have a nuisance.
Speaker 7: Problem today right now on the current law, I'm still
Speaker 7: getting the love branch from the city with a citation,
Speaker 7: threats or citations than deal with this. So I have
Speaker 7: it just takes me thirty days to get them out.
Speaker 6: And then the no thirty days.
Speaker 7: Interesting in theory, if I can get them out faster,
Speaker 7: this could be an enticement for people to behave.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it could very well be. Again, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of there's some perils in here that have
Speaker 2: to be addressed, So I'd imagine it could take a
Speaker 2: bit of time to get through the legislature, and.
Speaker 6: It may not get through this year.
Speaker 7: A lot of times the legislation like this comes up
Speaker 7: and gets introduced for a year, they talked about it
Speaker 7: and tweak it among all the other legislations that they do,
Speaker 7: and it might come back next year looking a little different.
Speaker 7: But the conversation starts the committee meeting here. You can
Speaker 7: start on any legislation that you got to get it introduced.
Speaker 7: You've got to get it going, and then you've got
Speaker 7: to get input from the other stakeholders and groups and
Speaker 7: address it.
Speaker 6: It might take two or three sessions to get something
Speaker 6: push now, No, that makes sense. Kentucky is the Kentucky
Speaker 6: is the budget year.
Speaker 7: It's our bi annual Kentucky would do the budget every
Speaker 7: other year for two years, so it's our bi annual
Speaker 7: budget year. So there's a lot of high priorities that
Speaker 7: Kentucky right now, you know, I know there's they got
Speaker 7: a lot of like the.
Speaker 6: Grooming bill Marian from here, that's a.
Speaker 7: Good one she's got filed, right So there's a lot
Speaker 7: of other jos say, higher priorities for legislators rightfully, So
Speaker 7: we've got so much time. So this one might make
Speaker 7: it heard and talked about. Isn't really brought and center.
Speaker 4: It's a niche it's a niche issue.
Speaker 7: It's a niche industry problem for police, fire and cities.
Speaker 7: So but it could get talked about, expand upon and
Speaker 7: move along the typeline.
Speaker 6: Sure, but there's certain priorities.
Speaker 7: There's only so much time to day for these legislators
Speaker 7: that to address issues, and they'll get to it when
Speaker 7: they can get to it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Jesse brew Boone County Commission. Always a pleasure
Speaker 2: having you on and something to think about, for sure.
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting I want to follow this one,
Speaker 2: uh and see if we can do this in Ohio
Speaker 2: because it makes sense. I think you can't force someone
Speaker 2: to be a good neighbor, but the law should be
Speaker 2: able to help you. This one. It's good for the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: It's good you think, Anna Jesse all the best, Thanks
Speaker 2: for jumping in.
Speaker 6: Thanks apreciate a good one.
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Speaker 3: Hundred w Welde You want to be a.
Speaker 2: Boy If you're on the mindset that the world right now,
Speaker 2: in a particular the American world is troubled, I don't
Speaker 2: think it is. I think we have some We have
Speaker 2: a lot of problems. We've always had a lot of problems.
Speaker 2: The problems just shift into different problems and the things
Speaker 2: that were problems gets fixed, and its just the nature
Speaker 2: of life. But if you look at it as half empty,
Speaker 2: you're going to get half empty. And I point this
Speaker 2: out because of all the things we got going on
Speaker 2: in the world, this one, to me is the biggest
Speaker 2: indicator that we have problems. TMZ is reporting that Chuck
Speaker 2: Norris is dead at the age of eighty six. I said,
Speaker 2: Chuck Norris dead at the age of eighty six per TMZ.
Speaker 2: Of course, knowing what was Delta Force and Missing Inaction
Speaker 2: and Walker Texas Ranger and the Living Embodiment and all
Speaker 2: the jokes and memes about Chuck Norris never dying, He's
Speaker 2: actually died, according to the reports. And I just read
Speaker 2: this this morning oddly, I mean literally maybe an hour
Speaker 2: before the word came out from TMZ that he had died,
Speaker 2: that he had some sort of medical emergency in Kauwhai
Speaker 2: Andaii that landed him in the hospital. And I said, well,
Speaker 2: we don't know what the problem is, but he's in
Speaker 2: good spirits because he was on the island training and
Speaker 2: he just had his birthday I think a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago, he turned eighty six, and he marked the
Speaker 2: occasion by posting a video on social that showed him
Speaker 2: sparring with a trainer, and everything was fine, and he
Speaker 2: fell ill quickly, a medical emergency and went to the
Speaker 2: hospital Hawaii. And now Chuck Norris passed away at the
Speaker 2: age eighty six. You know, you talk about economic issues
Speaker 2: and the price of gas in the war, and political
Speaker 2: polarization and governance be it federal, state or local healthcare,
Speaker 2: social issues, safety and crime huge here in Cincinnati. Infrastructures
Speaker 2: falling apart in Cincinnati. Education we got problems in schools.
Speaker 2: Of course, there's a disconnect. We for further and further behind.
Speaker 2: We have a maximum credit card debt, more and more
Speaker 2: people take it more to other furrow one K. I
Speaker 2: can handle all that. But when Chuck Norris passes away,
Speaker 2: when Chuck Norris decides to depart this heaven, maybe I
Speaker 2: should not be so glass half full. Look at this
Speaker 2: as a sign. I don't know, but God bless Chuck
Speaker 2: Norris eighty six. He just seemed like a guy's gonna
Speaker 2: live forever. That's a shocker right there. And meanwhile, meanwhile,
Speaker 2: people like Keith Richards just keeps on going. Now when
Speaker 2: he goes, Keith Richard goes in the next two or
Speaker 2: three days, it is the end times. The people who
Speaker 2: say repent now walking around with the sandwich boards, talking
Speaker 2: about the sky falling at all, Hell's breaking loose, you know,
Speaker 2: the Bill Cunninghams of the world, that everything's going to end.
Speaker 2: In short, dude, if Keith Richards goes because we lost Azzie.
Speaker 2: If Keith goes, there might be something here because if
Speaker 2: he can go and Chuck Norris goes, got issues, got
Speaker 2: big issues. I don't know about you and what your
Speaker 2: reaction was to this. I laughed out loud, and actually
Speaker 2: I was having a sip of water at the time,
Speaker 2: and I did a spit take literally spit up water
Speaker 2: all over my car when I heard this, and my
Speaker 2: car needs some water in the inside, So maybe it's
Speaker 2: not that a bad thing. So Trump is at the
Speaker 2: at the White House yesterday or day before or whatever,
Speaker 2: and he has the Japanese PM, they're the Prime Minister,
Speaker 2: and one of the reporters in the pool, I think
Speaker 2: it was a Japanese reporter asked President Trump about not
Speaker 2: informing US allies about military strikes in Iran, and Trump said,
Speaker 2: we didn't tell anyone about it because we wanted a surprise.
Speaker 3: Uh. I added, the do not the president, uh Trump,
Speaker 3: but the Trump.
Speaker 2: Fashion goes, who knows better about surprises than Japan? Okay,
Speaker 2: why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor?
Speaker 3: Too soon?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 3: I thought that was great.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's done a number of things in recent
Speaker 2: memory that caused you to cringe, you know, and go, oh, dude,
Speaker 2: why do you got to shoot yourself in the foot?
Speaker 2: Why do you why do you undermine your own cause
Speaker 2: so much? And yet this one, I'm fine. I thought
Speaker 2: that was funny. I thought it was hysterical myself. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: what about Pearl Harbor?
Speaker 3: What about that? Uh? I don't know. Too soon? Maybe
Speaker 3: maybe not. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean a little bit different, I guess, because but
Speaker 2: it's like we don't tell people because we want to
Speaker 2: kind of keep it secret. We don't want to lose
Speaker 2: the element of surprise. All right, fair enough, However, you're
Speaker 2: you're not building a coalition. So then there's that, Then
Speaker 2: there's that other stuff going on. Here's another reason, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, to stay away from the beach. Have you
Speaker 2: heard about the blue dragon? Okay, so today, by the way,
Speaker 2: in what do we got here? Thirty four minutes from
Speaker 2: right now, mark it will officially be spring, officially be spring.
Speaker 2: And with that becomes well planning your summer vacations, because
Speaker 2: we're in spring break right now, and maybe you're gonna
Speaker 2: go somewhere nice and Sonny. Maybe you're gonna go somewhere
Speaker 2: for spring break nice and sonny.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: God bless you if you are get out here. Wait
Speaker 2: for another thing to add to the Chuck Norris thing.
Speaker 2: A lines, so something called the blue Dragon, that it's
Speaker 2: on beaches and.
Speaker 3: It's washing up.
Speaker 2: I guess it's a sea slug that's washing up on
Speaker 2: the Texas Gulf Coast in huge numbers. And spring breakers
Speaker 2: are trying to avoid this. The blue dragon lives on
Speaker 2: a diet of Portuguese man o wars and has because
Speaker 2: they eats the Portuguese. The man o wars has its
Speaker 2: own venom. And anyone that gets too close and the
Speaker 2: water in the beach whatever literally can put you in
Speaker 2: a bad way could kill you. And I see this
Speaker 2: and I go wow. Everyone cannot wait to go to
Speaker 2: Florida now, Destin, go to the Carolinas, go to Texas,
Speaker 2: go to the Caribbean. Wherever they're sand to beach. I
Speaker 2: gotta get some sand. I gotta go get down. I
Speaker 2: gotta see the beach. Oh my god, it's been snowing
Speaker 2: for so long, it's been so cold. I gotta get
Speaker 2: some beach time. There's something really really weird in my
Speaker 2: opinion about the love of sand. I mean, I like
Speaker 2: going to where it's Warmhow we just went to Florida.
Speaker 2: The only sand I got into was my ball landing constantly,
Speaker 2: it seemed to every bunker on every golf course I
Speaker 2: played in Florida. But nonetheless, that's a different kind of sand.
Speaker 2: I just I never understood, like I got to go
Speaker 2: to the beach. The beach so you stay in the
Speaker 2: hotel that has a perfectly good pool, and then you
Speaker 2: slept down of the beach with all your gear, your chairs,
Speaker 2: you got your cooler, you got your umbrella. You're gonna
Speaker 2: try and fight for a spot. I just I to me,
Speaker 2: it's like what a pain in the ass, Like I
Speaker 2: hate the beach.
Speaker 3: The sand.
Speaker 2: First of all, once you have sand on you, it
Speaker 2: gets everywhere. I don't care how many of the surf
Speaker 2: side showers that the cold water that comes out, you
Speaker 2: rinse off, you go okay, and then what do you do?
Speaker 2: You walk back in the sand to get where you're going,
Speaker 2: So you still have sand on you. And even if
Speaker 2: you didn't, and we're doing it where there's no sand,
Speaker 2: you somehow still magically have sand in crevices you didn't
Speaker 2: know you had.
Speaker 3: I don't know how that.
Speaker 2: So you get home on vacation and like three months later,
Speaker 2: you'll be taking your shoe off and sand will fallock on.
Speaker 3: How the heck that was three months ago?
Speaker 2: And that just makes you more depressed because you're back
Speaker 2: back in Cincinnati, or you're walking through the sand and okay,
Speaker 2: there's people leave garbage, kids are leave it, you know,
Speaker 2: broken glass, there's bird poop.
Speaker 3: There's sticks.
Speaker 2: That's like it's you know, you'll cut your feet up
Speaker 2: if you're not being careful. Then you have the sea.
Speaker 2: Sea generally doesn't smell all that good. There's now there's
Speaker 2: a few areas the world or the country where the
Speaker 2: sea is amazing. You know that deep, but we don't
Speaker 2: have that deep blue. We got like seaweed and it's gray.
Speaker 2: There's undertoes that'll kill you. You got sharks, you got
Speaker 2: baby shark, did it?
Speaker 3: Did it?
Speaker 2: You got the sea slugs now the blue dragon. You
Speaker 2: got sting rays, you got jellyfish, and I mean, I
Speaker 2: think about it. You go in the ocean. What does
Speaker 2: the ocean try to do? The ocean is just it
Speaker 2: doesn't want you in there. You walk into the tide
Speaker 2: and what happens. It pushes you back. Even the ocean
Speaker 2: is saying, get the f out. We don't watch you.
Speaker 2: I don't watch you in my Get on my water.
Speaker 2: It's pushing you, literally pushing you back to the pool
Speaker 2: with the chlorinated bar. The pool water. The bar is
Speaker 2: right there. You got a nice lounge chair, somebody's breaks,
Speaker 2: you got towels, The bathroom's right there. You're not you're
Speaker 2: not going to the bathroom or you're swimming, and what
Speaker 2: are we doing here? I just I never in my
Speaker 2: life understood. I have never been so confused in my
Speaker 2: life as I'm about beaches.
Speaker 3: I understand. A long time ago, that's all you had.
Speaker 2: You know, when the Sunlight Pool was the Sunlight Pool before, well,
Speaker 2: you know, people protested river bending. People stop going there.
Speaker 2: Why because we've got tons of pools all over the place. Like,
Speaker 2: go to a pool with clean water. It was a
Speaker 2: big deal back in the day because you'd go to
Speaker 2: the Ohio River and that was janky, right you look
Speaker 2: down there and I'd swimming too that.
Speaker 3: But the Sunlight Pool.
Speaker 2: Great pools became pretty cheap, pretty affordable, got them all
Speaker 2: over the place. Every hotel has one. No, no, I
Speaker 2: go a vacation. Care's the beach right there? He had great.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit here by the pool. Why because there's
Speaker 2: a swim up bar. They got music, there's no sand.
Speaker 2: I don't have to a brush, sharks don't have to
Speaker 2: brun jellyfish. It's the same sun. Like, what this is better?
Speaker 2: This is better here. I'm here where it's better, and
Speaker 2: everyone's down by the beach. May I'm sitting by the pool.
Speaker 2: I will die on that mountain. I will die on
Speaker 2: that hill that the beach sucks. The beach is stupid. Now,
Speaker 2: if you want a jet ski or surf or wind surf, sure, absolutely,
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, I'm down with that. But if you're not,
Speaker 2: there's really no reason to go to the beach because
Speaker 2: you gotta dres. On top of that, you gotta drag
Speaker 2: everything you need there. If you're you're a hotel with
Speaker 2: a pool, everything you have is they'll bring it to you.
Speaker 2: The whole point of vacation is too much dam work
Speaker 2: to go to the beach. Too much dam work. Now
Speaker 2: if you go into a place that doesn't have the hotel,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of like nice and warm. You know, we
Speaker 2: stayed in the house years and years ago, and the
Speaker 2: kids are young to the family trip to the outer
Speaker 2: Banks and it was lovely and the beach was about
Speaker 2: a block away. But again you had to get a
Speaker 2: wagon and drag everything down there. And it's like it's
Speaker 2: a lot of work to go to the beach and
Speaker 2: then stand there and go, well, the water's too cold.
Speaker 2: Got a perfect good pool at the house, let's use that.
Speaker 2: Let's go there. Blue dragon. Another reason Mother Nature and
Speaker 2: God are telling you stay the hell out of the ocean.
Speaker 2: Stay out of the ocean. We've got march madness today.
Speaker 2: I want to give a plug into my friends and
Speaker 2: my buddy John Strausser and the Miami University Alumni people,
Speaker 2: the association. They're getting at their meeting today. By the way,
Speaker 2: for a UM grad. I'm sorry, m you grad, not UM,
Speaker 2: that'd be Michigan, Miami University, you are. They're doing a
Speaker 2: watch part day at Holy Girl Banks, and of course
Speaker 2: we'll be there Thursday for opening Day twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: What a perfect day.
Speaker 2: The weather is going to be absolutely spectacular, I believe
Speaker 2: today it looks like a few clouds right now, cloudy skies,
Speaker 2: maybe a very slight storm chains around six o'clock. But
Speaker 2: what they call is a marginal risk, and so far
Speaker 2: it looks like it might miss the tri State. But again,
Speaker 2: it's gonna go up to seventy three today. They're gonna
Speaker 2: have the doors open. Go to a place where you
Speaker 2: can open the doors and watch college basketball. Miami tips
Speaker 2: off I think four to twenty five against number six Tennessee,
Speaker 2: and people will be drinking their beers today for sure,
Speaker 2: a lot of beer will becomes a lot of elk
Speaker 2: will be consumed. And I was thinking about that because
Speaker 2: I saw I don't know what made me think of this,
Speaker 2: and I had to one of the du to those
Speaker 2: deep dives or something that's totally inconsequential, which is why
Speaker 2: I talk about this on Friday morning. What happened to
Speaker 2: these squat beer bottle? Remember stubbies, like the little beer
Speaker 2: I'm not talking little kings where it's a little or
Speaker 2: even the Corona Rita is the little six ounce. I'm
Speaker 2: talking about stubby beer balls, a little brown short beer bottles,
Speaker 2: the stubby. What happened to those? I think Red Stripe
Speaker 2: is the only brand that still does the stubbies, and
Speaker 2: that fell out of favor. Not that long ago.
Speaker 3: They used to.
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, My old man did get that,
Speaker 2: you know, whatever it was he'd drag over from Cana.
Speaker 2: They go to Canada, get the Canadian beer because it
Speaker 2: was the only place you get to go there, bring
Speaker 2: it back and everything was on a stubby, and now
Speaker 2: everything's a long neck. And so I started thinking about this.
Speaker 2: These are things that keep me awake at night. By
Speaker 2: the way, I know they have medicine for people like me,
Speaker 2: but I refuse. So what happened was the long neck
Speaker 2: bottle became the industry standard because it is more efficient
Speaker 2: to ship into store. The reason why they got rid
Speaker 2: of the stubby is because you can pack more bottles
Speaker 2: on a pallette if you do the long necks, because
Speaker 2: stubbies are wider and they waste more space in the cases,
Speaker 2: none on the shelves.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I taught.
Speaker 2: I mean, who am I to argue with the science
Speaker 2: of the industry, But it's just a height thing, and
Speaker 2: I guess you could stack more stubby containers on a
Speaker 2: palette than you could long necks. But largely they came about.
Speaker 2: These stubbies were popular in part because they were thin
Speaker 2: and durable. So back in the day we used to
Speaker 2: return them for money. I don't vaguely remember that, but
Speaker 2: you get a bottle, you turn it back. In some
Speaker 2: states I think still do that and you get I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe a penny or five cents or a
Speaker 2: dime or whatever for every bottle you'd return it. They'd
Speaker 2: recycle it, they'd wash it, they'd would fill it as
Speaker 2: many times as possible, and they tended to be because
Speaker 2: they're shorter, they didn't break as much as the long necks,
Speaker 2: and so they got rid of this. I started like
Speaker 2: in the nineteen seventies and eighties, I think is when
Speaker 2: it went. And then it just became the one way package,
Speaker 2: and cansby became bigger because they're easier to open, and
Speaker 2: they became from ten to aluminum, and so the long
Speaker 2: neck came to be associated with premium branding, which is
Speaker 2: I think the really interesting part about this is for
Speaker 2: some reason, the mindset was that the long neck fits
Speaker 2: better in your hand. I think it does because you
Speaker 2: hold the neck and it keeps the beer cold. And
Speaker 2: it just became like the I don't know, the Jello
Speaker 2: or the Kleenex for containers to put beer in. It
Speaker 2: just became shorthand for beer and advertising. And so Stubby's
Speaker 2: to feel outdated in a little down market. And then
Speaker 2: when craft burning blow up, they leaned heavily in the
Speaker 2: long neck because people saw that as more teasonal and
Speaker 2: you cans have made a comeback in craft for freshness
Speaker 2: and portability, but the Stubby never really rolled that wave.
Speaker 3: And anything from.
Speaker 2: Cooler dars, refrigerator doors, vending machine, six pack carries all
Speaker 2: engineered around the long neck standard, so once that infrastructure
Speaker 2: is built out, they weren't going to go back. Now
Speaker 2: there are some markets too, and Canada, so you can
Speaker 2: still find some stubbies Australia and Europe at large outside
Speaker 2: of red stripe. That's about it. So it's more of
Speaker 2: a nostalge item today. And now you know, when you're
Speaker 2: drinking your beer today watching basketball, why you're drinking it
Speaker 2: out of long neck bottle and not a stubby. And
Speaker 2: now I think the little Kings they still have the
Speaker 2: little the minis. You also had the I mentioned the
Speaker 2: Corona Rita's the little tiny I think, what are they?
Speaker 3: Eight ounces or six ounces?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: Now you know you can you get oil cans and
Speaker 3: everything else.
Speaker 2: But now you know the history of the long neck
Speaker 2: bottle and why why the stubby went away and why
Speaker 2: the long neck stays? Hey, real quick, there is one
Speaker 2: around and I've Phil caught it right away. Phil in
Speaker 2: Cincinnati on the Scott Fold Show.
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 6: Yeah, course banquet comes.
Speaker 2: In a stubbies, Yes, sir, they held on to that.
Speaker 2: I think it's because the course banquet beer is a
Speaker 2: such a throwback to the old days.
Speaker 3: That it fits their nostalgia.
Speaker 2: That's all I needed, all right, appreciate you, thanks so much. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I forgot about that. The cores banquet beer in the
Speaker 2: stubby I you skill stubby cores, but you know the
Speaker 2: banquet beer. And I hear Sam Elliot's with the banquet beer.
Speaker 2: That's a really bad Sam Elliott by the way, like
Speaker 2: Sam Ellen who huffed helium and also has throat congestion.
Speaker 3: That's what that sounded like.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, but they goes back to the eighteen hundred,
Speaker 2: so you know that whole cowboy I mean the old
Speaker 2: old school ones.
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, you want to go way back.
Speaker 2: Hold you don't see like the big jug like back
Speaker 2: in the back in the day, the fact that you
Speaker 2: bring your you'd send your kid down to the local
Speaker 2: pub to get draft beer in a bucket literally as
Speaker 2: a bucket a bit, not a growler, no, no, I'm
Speaker 2: talking about like literally a pale Back in the day,
Speaker 2: they would the kid would go down with some money
Speaker 2: and go to the local bar and they take draft
Speaker 2: beer and fill a tin bucket up with beer. Now
Speaker 2: I could see why that didn't stay, why that didn't
Speaker 2: really catch on. There may be some problems there with contamination, spillage,
Speaker 2: dog licking out of it.
Speaker 3: You know, I just probably do want a solid container.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 2: We got a news update on the way Momentarily, I
Speaker 2: mentioned that forecast is looking great and pretty much dry
Speaker 2: through most of the day. On Sunday, temperatures will drop
Speaker 2: back down. But opening day, I can tell you this
Speaker 2: at the Holy Girl Banks on Thursday at nine am,
Speaker 2: when I'll be kicking things off down there. Seventy degrees
Speaker 2: and rain late Thursday. But right now, if that stands,
Speaker 2: we are looking for an epic opening day weatherwise and
Speaker 2: hopefully on the field as well here on the home
Speaker 2: of the Red seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 3: Since NAT the music means.
Speaker 2: Pageantry, it means glory, it means money, it means the
Speaker 2: tournament is here. Austin Elmore and from ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2: Off again today because of Kentucky basketball.
Speaker 9: Yet again, I was off regardless because I don't know
Speaker 9: if you know that we we typically do this and
Speaker 9: at times we have done this. Uh Friday conversation, the
Speaker 9: first Friday of the tournament, in which I've been preparing
Speaker 9: for a trip to the Moose right.
Speaker 3: So that's where I'll be going going to the Moose Lodge.
Speaker 9: I'm going to the Moose Lodge later this afternoons. Be
Speaker 9: a great place to watch cam. Oh it's the freaking best.
Speaker 9: Wait do they have both TV's on? They both? How
Speaker 9: dare you number number one? How dare that's where I
Speaker 9: watched the Bengals beat the Raiders win the playoff TVs?
Speaker 3: They have it, they'll.
Speaker 9: Probably ten really, yes, all right? I man, it's it's
Speaker 9: on a golf course too. You would love it. That
Speaker 9: course would tear you up, tear you of course, lost
Speaker 9: three balls at the.
Speaker 3: Water again.
Speaker 9: So yeah, I mean, I'm about to go down to
Speaker 9: Great American Ballpark. We get the new food tasting coming up,
Speaker 9: all the new stuff that's coming up at GABP this year.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go check that out.
Speaker 9: You're not gonna say no to free me on, Absolutely not,
Speaker 9: I'm not stupid. And then I'm gonna go go up
Speaker 9: to the Moose lads watch some college backsday.
Speaker 2: Also that speaking of college back in Miami today at
Speaker 2: for twenty five, Yes, they're having a big watch party
Speaker 2: at the Grail.
Speaker 3: So if you're down there, the alumni are going down there.
Speaker 9: I stopped by there last night afterwards to go hang
Speaker 9: out with my buddy Moegor, who did his show from
Speaker 9: down there. Tend to noon yesterday, It's always one of
Speaker 9: the funnest days of the year. Watched a little bit
Speaker 9: of the North Carolina game and the Cardi b concert
Speaker 9: was next door. Wasn't you want to talk about seeing
Speaker 9: some fits?
Speaker 6: It was?
Speaker 9: It was fun like the people watching was elite at
Speaker 9: the Grail last night and it was the windows doors open.
Speaker 9: I was like, yeah, it was like seventy degrees. It's
Speaker 9: a great day to stay inside watch bass.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And then today, I mean, you're gonna have what Kentucky's
Speaker 9: at noon and then Miami at four, You're gonna have
Speaker 9: a It's gonna be a good day for those guys.
Speaker 3: I like it a lot.
Speaker 2: All right, let's begin with that with college basketball, and
Speaker 2: I think the biggest story come out of college basketball
Speaker 2: is what does it deal with Charles Barkley suit Like
Speaker 2: he lost all that weight and still has the fat
Speaker 2: man suit. Like he looks like a kid wearing his
Speaker 2: dad's jacket.
Speaker 9: Your thoughts, Yeah, the first thing I thought of was
Speaker 9: the the old coach of the New York Giants, Ben mcadoon. Yeah,
Speaker 9: he had lost hundreds of pounds and never bought a
Speaker 9: new suit. So he gets introduced as the new head
Speaker 9: coach of the New York Giants and it is twice
Speaker 9: as big as the suit that Charles is wearing. And
Speaker 9: so I don't know. I know how Charles was unprepared
Speaker 9: for this. And he's on TV every day. Yeah, and
Speaker 9: I've seen the commercials. He's like, yeah, losing weight. Yeah,
Speaker 9: So I don't know why, unless it's just he's stubborn
Speaker 9: about his He's just stubborn about his suits. I don't
Speaker 9: know what's going on, sure, but I know that yesterday
Speaker 9: was a particularly bad look for true.
Speaker 2: It was pretty bad. So I'm glad we got that
Speaker 2: out of the way. So let's talk to yesterday.
Speaker 9: Big.
Speaker 3: I wish I had that problem. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of upsets though, starting with I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm look at the games going on. That VCU game was.
Speaker 2: It was the most ridiculous comeback. I watched like the
Speaker 2: last ten minutes of it. That was an awesome game
Speaker 2: of your buck, guys, let me down. I had not
Speaker 2: a rarely bet on the Buckeyes, but I did this time,
Speaker 2: and they screwed me thoughts.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I knew better than to bet on to pick them,
Speaker 9: but I did it anyways because I drank the kool
Speaker 9: aid of the way that they played the last two
Speaker 9: weeks of the regular season, and by god, they almost
Speaker 9: had another comeback just like that VCU comeback almost fifteen
Speaker 9: points and you get the ball in the hands of
Speaker 9: Bruce Thornton. But I don't understand with four seconds left
Speaker 9: you have to go ninety feet to get to the
Speaker 9: rim and you pass the ball backwards and then settle
Speaker 9: for a half court heave. It was a terrible final
Speaker 9: possession for Ohio State. A difficult end to that because
Speaker 9: it felt like they, you know, had really gone on
Speaker 9: a run the last couple of weeks. Bruce Thorton, that
Speaker 9: whole story was really cool. Is the first time he
Speaker 9: gets to play in the tournament and that ends like that.
Speaker 9: That's a tough one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Texas, and I mean eleven step seeing the six
Speaker 2: is not that big a deal.
Speaker 3: But Texas not gonna off BYU.
Speaker 9: Well, I mean aj Devance the best player in the country.
Speaker 9: A lot of people think. I mean, I thought it
Speaker 9: was funny. Sean Murty five points man, Sean Miller was
Speaker 9: asked last night, like, how do you stop him? He's
Speaker 9: like you can't, Like we don't, Like, we just we
Speaker 9: got to do other stuff because we're not going to
Speaker 9: stop that guy.
Speaker 2: How often this happen where dude gets half of your points?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean he's he's a monster. And if you
Speaker 9: watch BYU at all this year, you've seen it. I
Speaker 9: mean that dude can just flat out fill it up.
Speaker 9: And I thought b YU was a pretty trendy pick
Speaker 9: because of that going into the next rounds.
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what, Sean Miller, the dude can coach.
Speaker 2: All right, So let's move on today. Sixteen more games.
Speaker 2: Of course, the one we're all kind of focused on
Speaker 2: right now is Miami and Tennessee. I got them moving
Speaker 2: on to the next round simply because I think I'm
Speaker 2: a homer a little bit too. A love the story,
Speaker 2: I love it, but also Tennessee hasn't been very good
Speaker 2: down the stretch, lost for their last six, so I'm
Speaker 2: hoping Miami pulls up.
Speaker 3: I hope they do too.
Speaker 9: I mean, I picked Tennessee and nobody cares about my bracket,
Speaker 9: but I think most people will have picked Tennessee just
Speaker 9: because they're an SEC team, and they've had a lot
Speaker 9: of different tests over the course of the season. I
Speaker 9: do think there's something to Miami, though. You've got that
Speaker 9: win out of the way, you got the first four win,
Speaker 9: you won your tournament game, you let it rip, and
Speaker 9: you know what, at this point, let it all hang out.
Speaker 9: And Miami is going to have a chance to do
Speaker 9: that against Tennessee. And you know the other part too,
Speaker 9: is I feel like Travis Steele did a great job
Speaker 9: of being prepared for anything that SMU was going to
Speaker 9: throw at them. If they went zone, they spread them out,
Speaker 9: they attacked the middle of the floor, they continued to
Speaker 9: create space for three point shots, they went backdoor off
Speaker 9: of a time out. They were so well prepared to
Speaker 9: beat you with some x's and o's. Because they don't
Speaker 9: have the most athletic players, they don't have the biggest
Speaker 9: player on the floor, but they've used the spacing of
Speaker 9: the floor, the pace that they play with the threat
Speaker 9: of the three ball to create a lot of different
Speaker 9: opportunities on offense. And that's why they're one of the
Speaker 9: best offensive teams in the country. So if you do
Speaker 9: execute at that level and you have a little bit
Speaker 9: of a screw it, let it all hang out type
Speaker 9: of mentality.
Speaker 3: You absolutely can win.
Speaker 2: That play loose, right, Yeah, that's okay, it's well over stated,
Speaker 2: but it's so true. Yeah, it's probably loose and it's up.
Speaker 9: It honestly does come down to that of like, who's
Speaker 9: gonna puck her up? Now that we're into the second
Speaker 9: round or the first round, however you describe of the
Speaker 9: NCAA trying to.
Speaker 2: See I mean, the pressure's on them. It's like Miami
Speaker 2: is like, hey man, we're playing with house money, No
Speaker 2: one I expect us to be here.
Speaker 9: So I thought there was one or two players for
Speaker 9: Miami who puckered up in that game against SMU. But
Speaker 9: now hopefully, you know, you move on from that and
Speaker 9: hopefully some Tennessee players do pucker up.
Speaker 2: Speaking of puckering up, what about UK? You see puckering
Speaker 2: Santa Clair is like it's yeah and a rite off.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I don't think Kentucky fans feel great about this game,
Speaker 9: and it's one of those sexy picks, that ten to
Speaker 9: seven matchup with Santa Clara upsetting Entucky. I just heard
Speaker 9: Adam Lefgo, the studio host at CBS, say he thinks
Speaker 9: Santa Clara is going to win this game. Kentucky has
Speaker 9: just been up and down all season long. You don't
Speaker 9: know what to expect from them at any point, and
Speaker 9: so for that reason, I'm going to be picking Kentucky
Speaker 9: to uh win a close one.
Speaker 3: But it's not going to be easy.
Speaker 2: Okay, can we pause for just a second, something very important?
Speaker 2: Just sure we have breaking news here on seven hundred
Speaker 2: word in three two one.
Speaker 3: You know what? You know what it is right now?
Speaker 3: Spring it's officially spring. Just happened. Just happened?
Speaker 2: Wow, equinox, Yay, here comes the ball? Did we did
Speaker 2: we lose an hour?
Speaker 3: What just happened?
Speaker 2: I just changed the batteries as I smoked.
Speaker 3: Wow, Happy spring Spring. That's awesome. It feels like spring.
Speaker 3: It does, does it? There we go wonderful? All right?
Speaker 2: I should have played all lang yin or something and
Speaker 2: the downtown, but I'm not very prepared.
Speaker 3: On Friday.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I like to do that aud Lane sign at
Speaker 9: the Happy New Year. The NFL league year starts like
Speaker 9: a four o'clock on a Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Right, we should do that opening day?
Speaker 1: Yeah? We should.
Speaker 3: I'd start that at nine o'clock. We got too many
Speaker 3: good ideas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, too many? Yeah, any other things going on? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I only got thirty seconds. All right, So games today
Speaker 2: Villanova Utah, Well we getting back in this. We mentioned
Speaker 2: Kentucky of course in Santa Clair. Villanova and Utah STATEA
Speaker 2: eight eight nine are always great matchups.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they are. It's always good. You saw it yesterday.
Speaker 9: The Ohio State TCU game was really good. It's it's
Speaker 9: those teams are the most closely matched. I guess, and
Speaker 9: I won the week one. Yeah, so I'm excited. Yeah,
Speaker 9: it's gonna be a good day.
Speaker 2: So we start at a new first game as a
Speaker 2: twelve fifteen Kentucky matchup. You've got a couple more in there,
Speaker 2: and then you've got Miami at four twenty five and
Speaker 2: Tennessee and then games all weekends up. Kentucky of course
Speaker 2: can be heard on ESPN fifteen thirty and Austin and
Speaker 2: Tony will not All right, let's pivot from college basketball.
Speaker 2: I know that seems like it's a you know, we
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time talking about it.
Speaker 3: I will.
Speaker 9: Can we say this about college basketball? Good for U see,
Speaker 9: good for Wes Miller to get out of that deal
Speaker 9: yesterday for three million bucks that's what I was gonna
Speaker 9: bring up right now. I mean, Mill, that's very good.
Speaker 9: That is a very good deal. Number one, Wes gets
Speaker 9: it all right now, good for him, and number two,
Speaker 9: Cincinnati saves a bunch of money. You can clarify their
Speaker 9: whole thing with what's probably gonna be Jared Calhoun as
Speaker 9: their next head coach. He plays later today his team
Speaker 9: you toss eight. Great job. John Cunningham has taken a
Speaker 9: lot of arrows lately, and he's deserved every single one
Speaker 9: of them. But he did a good job of getting
Speaker 9: uc out of that contract and saving them some money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, congrats to Wes. Miller too jumped into I guess
Speaker 2: he's gonna They're gonna fire Jack Krumle.
Speaker 3: He's gonna beet a news news director. Is that right?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 2: Wow, I did not know this one. I'm curious to
Speaker 2: see how well he works get along with Brian Combs
Speaker 2: and Matt Reith. Good luck with that. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: but you know the thing is, John Cunney says the
Speaker 2: right things. But because that, I'm excited about the next
Speaker 2: chapter of Cincinnati basketball.
Speaker 3: Do they even know what.
Speaker 2: The next chapter of Cincinnati basketball?
Speaker 9: Yes, they did. It's Jared Calhoun. Okay, Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 9: who it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's a lock. That's a lock. Let's talk
Speaker 2: Red's baseball. We're in the home stretch right now. We
Speaker 2: are one week from yesterday, Austin will beat the Holy
Speaker 2: Girl Banks me and Mo. I believe Mo's with me
Speaker 2: again like he is every year, starting at nine o'clock
Speaker 2: for Red's opening days.
Speaker 3: Mo is just staying down there. I think I think
Speaker 3: he stayed the night.
Speaker 2: At the rail more time at a bar than Moegar.
Speaker 9: No, absolutely not. I think he stayed the night there
Speaker 9: last night. And we'll just be there from now until
Speaker 9: opening that barfly. Yeah, he really is, and thirty years
Speaker 9: are going to come back and walk in the Holy Girl.
Speaker 9: I remember this place. Is this old man sitting at
Speaker 9: the just smoking cigarettes? Even though you remember, do you
Speaker 9: remember Joe Nusall used to go to the same bob
Speaker 9: Evans every day?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's in the same chair. They'll say, most chair.
Speaker 9: If I'm not mistaken, did the Reds Hall of Fame
Speaker 9: not get that chair from Bob Evans? And there's like
Speaker 9: a little plate plaque on it. They said, Joe Nuxall's
Speaker 9: chair They're can do that with Moe's barstool. Yeah, and
Speaker 9: the I heard Hall of Fame here, Yeah, exactly, they're
Speaker 9: going to do that too.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 2: So the Reds were off yesterday. They had a little
Speaker 2: prospect action going on. They play the clubs at My
Speaker 2: Park Sloan and My Park Sloan Park.
Speaker 1: Today.
Speaker 2: I believe Brandon Williamson's going to get the start there
Speaker 2: down the stretch. Now, we're starting to get blisters repeering again.
Speaker 2: We got elbow chips and everything looked like, wow, we
Speaker 2: just got We've got this boundiful feast of pitching right now,
Speaker 2: and it's starting to get a little thinner than it
Speaker 2: was just a week ago.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they made it seem like the blister that was
Speaker 9: on Brady Singer's throwing finger or throwing hand was minor
Speaker 9: and precautionary, and they saw it developing, they said it
Speaker 9: didn't pop like for all those reasons, they feel pretty
Speaker 9: good about getting that, you know, ready to go for
Speaker 9: nine days from now when he's going to pitch.
Speaker 3: The Hunter Green thing.
Speaker 9: I give Hunter a lot of credit for, you know,
Speaker 9: coming back to Arizona and meeting with the reporters and
Speaker 9: explaining what happened and being more transparent about transparent about
Speaker 9: all that. He showed him his elbow and showed his
Speaker 9: range of motion, and he said he's feeling good about
Speaker 9: the timeline, so that's all good, and confirms that there
Speaker 9: was no ligament damage to his UCO and that's obviously
Speaker 9: the scariest part.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be out for a while.
Speaker 9: But the Reds have some good young pitchers man Chase Burns,
Speaker 9: Reht Louder, Brandon Williamson. They're all gonna make the team.
Speaker 9: The Reds are gonna do this kind of strange condensed
Speaker 9: six man rotation where one guy's gonna piggyback off the
Speaker 9: other guy, and because of the off days that they
Speaker 9: have early in the season in the way that the
Speaker 9: schedule plays out, I think they're gonna do that for
Speaker 9: the first couple of weeks and see what happens and
Speaker 9: try to save their bullpen a little bit and get
Speaker 9: the best guys available, best guys in the organization pitching
Speaker 9: for that first couple of weeks to start the year,
Speaker 9: and then they'll make some adjustments as things go on there.
Speaker 9: But I think it's an exciting time for those young
Speaker 9: pitchers to have Louder Williamson, who hasn't pitched in like
Speaker 9: two years. Yep, and Chase Burns continuing to come up.
Speaker 9: It's a good thing.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: With the Chase Burns thing, he was kind of slowed
Speaker 2: down early on, had that range of motion issue.
Speaker 3: Is that still concern?
Speaker 9: They don't make it seem like it's a concern. I
Speaker 9: think that they are trying to help help Chase Burns
Speaker 9: establish what his routine is supposed to be as a
Speaker 9: big league pitcher. I think he's inconsistent with that routine.
Speaker 9: I think he might be a little bit immature with
Speaker 9: that routine. And if he's not totally preparing his body
Speaker 9: for every single start, then that could lead to an injury.
Speaker 9: And I think the Reds are trying to hammer that
Speaker 9: home with him. And so they have a day where
Speaker 9: he's not at that full range of motion and they
Speaker 9: didn't like it, so they shut him down. They're like, Okay,
Speaker 9: we're going to slow you down a little bit. Here's
Speaker 9: the things you got to focus on to get your
Speaker 9: body ready to pitch. And Chase said he's talked to
Speaker 9: Brady Singer, He's talked to Nicolodolo, He's talked to Andrew
Speaker 9: Abbott okay, and is trying to improve on that part
Speaker 9: of his game, so hopefully he doesn't. And when you
Speaker 9: talk about that idea of a pitcher piggybacking, Chase Burns
Speaker 9: is probably the one most likely to do that as
Speaker 9: far as I'm concerned, just because both in college and
Speaker 9: in his young professional career he's come out of the Bowl.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just nervous as a long suffering Reds fans.
Speaker 2: Sure that you've seen this before. Okay, So Harnegreen, the
Speaker 2: elbow chips of shooting out taken care of in October,
Speaker 2: We're going to wait till the season starts.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna push that.
Speaker 9: I'm going to push back on that because so they
Speaker 9: get an MRI in July, it's fine, they get an
Speaker 9: MRI in October. They see these chips and doctor Neil
Speaker 9: elatrosh the best elbow surgeon in the world, says, if
Speaker 9: I were you Hunter, I would get the shot and
Speaker 9: wait and rest. And it worked up until right before spring.
Speaker 9: So if I put myself in hunter green shoes and
Speaker 9: the best surgeon in the world is telling me I
Speaker 9: don't think you need surgery, then I'm probably gonna listen
Speaker 9: to them.
Speaker 2: Okay, But so as a Reds fan, I got HOWM
Speaker 2: worded about Hunter Green. All right, Chase Burns had some problems. Really, see,
Speaker 2: you gonna be a good Brandon Williamson's coming off with
Speaker 2: Tommy John surgery. It's like Louder didn't pitch. Louder didn't pitch.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I'm just a little nervous.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 9: And then on top of that, Andrew Abbott has not
Speaker 9: looked good at all in spring training and he's going
Speaker 9: to be the opening day starter. Nicolodolo has been fine. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I think all of a sudden, what was supposed to
Speaker 9: be the strength of the team is what you feel
Speaker 9: most wishy washy about. Yeah, but it is difficult to
Speaker 9: analyze every thing that happens in spring training and in Arizona.
Speaker 9: So we'll see what happens when they get back here.
Speaker 9: But from all the people I talk to, there doesn't
Speaker 9: seem to be an overwhelming amount of worry about the
Speaker 9: pitching staff. It's just they're they're figuring stuff out. I
Speaker 9: just hope it gets figured out the next six times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you get it's hard to argue the
Speaker 2: offense to the production now that you brought Brian Gino,
Speaker 2: and now it's like Ellie's hitting and Matt McClain is
Speaker 2: looking like his former self.
Speaker 3: So it's all those things are starting to come together.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean we talk about complimentary football all the time,
Speaker 9: where you're starting to see some complimentary baseball. If if
Speaker 9: the additions to the lineup, most notably Sworerez and Stuart,
Speaker 9: and if Matt McLain, who Terry Francona said is gonna
Speaker 9: bat second for this team is who he has been
Speaker 9: throughout spring training, which is like the league leader in
Speaker 9: every offensive category, then that's gonna have a huge effect
Speaker 9: on this offense. And that's gonna be able to win
Speaker 9: them some games. Maybe a special or especially if they're
Speaker 9: pitching isn't up to what we expected it to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, Okay, And finally with the Bengals too, Tyson,
Speaker 2: there's gone lost one of your special teams. Guys, kind
Speaker 2: of you, there's gonna be more Bengals stuff. I mean
Speaker 2: it's slow down then. First, you know, forty eight hours
Speaker 2: basically a free agent that people lose their mind.
Speaker 3: And yeah, this is the quiet part.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think we're gonna see anything from them
Speaker 9: until closer to training camp. I think they're folcusing all
Speaker 9: on the draft right now, and I believe the Michigan
Speaker 9: Pro Day is today and we know they love Michigan players,
Speaker 9: so I'm sure they'll be up there. And then we
Speaker 9: get into the Draft, which is just over a month
Speaker 9: from now in Pittsburgh, and then you'll start to see
Speaker 9: a little bit of some figuring out what the roster
Speaker 9: is gonna look like. Paul Danner Junior reported earlier this
Speaker 9: week that it seems like the Dax Hill and DJ
Speaker 9: Turner extensions they've had preliminary conversations, but that won't pick
Speaker 9: up until after the draft. I think they're gonna take
Speaker 9: a corner now because of that in round number one,
Speaker 9: and then maybe at the end of training camp we'll
Speaker 9: see one of those signings like we saw last year
Speaker 9: with no offense with Dalton Reisner. Yes, maybe there's a
Speaker 9: linebacker out there that they'll bring in, but I think
Speaker 9: as of now the free agent acquisition part is over,
Speaker 9: and it's a shame because they don't have a linebacker.
Speaker 9: They lost Tyson Anderson, who is a Lobo caliber special
Speaker 9: teamer and for a one point one million dollar deal.
Speaker 9: I don't understand that they have no depth on their
Speaker 9: defense whatsoever. They've made good additions, but the roster lacks depth,
Speaker 9: and I worry about it. And then depth is a problem.
Speaker 2: After the first game, it gets about depth, right, and
Speaker 2: the Tyson Anderson was confusing because what he left for
Speaker 2: to Denver was not that much.
Speaker 9: No, and you know, I don't know if he's I
Speaker 9: don't expect him to get a chance to play a
Speaker 9: lot as a safety and maybe that, but special team
Speaker 9: I know, but I don't know if that was a
Speaker 9: selling point. Denver's like, you're gonna be able to play defense.
Speaker 9: The Bengals never let him play defense, which I think
Speaker 9: said a lot, especially how bad their safety's played. But yeah,
Speaker 9: that one's a frustrating one because he was well liked
Speaker 9: in the locker room, extremely productive, a huge part of
Speaker 9: what Darren Simmons did in that Special Teams unit.
Speaker 2: I think the biggest weird Bengal like story this week
Speaker 2: is why are the Bills getting Geno Stone?
Speaker 9: Good for you, guys, man, Good for you, guys. I
Speaker 9: thought you thought that bad. You thought Damar Hamlin was
Speaker 9: bad last year. Listen, I've seen a lot. I've seen
Speaker 9: a lot of bills fans complaining about DeMar Hamlin. Yeah,
Speaker 9: you have no idea Gino. I don't think they got
Speaker 9: I said, do we have the clip of Allan Cutler
Speaker 9: saying Gino, Gino, Gino, Gino, Gino, Gino Gino.
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know, I don't. I just I
Speaker 2: don't see him making it through camp. I really don't
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: Gonta. Yeah, you were right. We're done.
Speaker 9: We've all joked He'll go to Buffalo and being all
Speaker 9: pro watch this, Yeah, watching ball out fantastic, eleven interceptions, unbelievable,
Speaker 9: That's exactly.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's more more Buffalo or more Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure. Got to get a news update.
Speaker 2: Often and Tony are off today. He'll be drunk by
Speaker 2: probably about the twelve thirty at the Moose Lodge. Moose
Speaker 2: Lodge in Sydney, Ohio. Moose out Front should have told you, thanks, buddy.
Speaker 2: Seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American?
Speaker 2: Here we go almost did the weekend fourth here seven
Speaker 2: hundred w OLW Scott slung show. Residents in Cincinnati say
Speaker 2: we feel less safe. We think the streets are in
Speaker 2: bad shape.
Speaker 3: They are.
Speaker 2: Quality of life is slipping, and yet city council just
Speaker 2: voted to spend eight million dollars on a riverbend two
Speaker 2: point oh the new Farmer Music Center council member Anna
Speaker 2: Albe sponsored that bill and voted yes. I had her
Speaker 2: on the show yesterday to talk about, Uh, he is
Speaker 2: a hard no hard pass would be the Chair of
Speaker 2: Budget and Finance, Jeffrey Kramerting on the Scottsland Jeff, good morning.
Speaker 6: How are you good to be here?
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you voted knowing the eight mail bottom line
Speaker 2: for the listeners single biggest reason why.
Speaker 4: There's there's many reasons. First of all, you know we
Speaker 4: threw our big numbers with simple we talk about tax
Speaker 4: debatements and tips. This is eight million dollars out of
Speaker 4: the city's capital budget, eight million dollars of cash. Put
Speaker 4: it in the truck and take it away. That's eight
Speaker 4: million dollars of roads parks, something that's not going to happen.
Speaker 4: This is very real money and a very big stuff.
Speaker 3: Uh that's true.
Speaker 2: But I mean we just sold the railroad and got
Speaker 2: money for that. That's all earmark to redo the rods,
Speaker 2: and I think even to yourself said, hey, you know what,
Speaker 2: we're so far behind in Cincinnati with potholes and roads
Speaker 2: and infrastructure. It's going to take ten years just to
Speaker 2: catch up. So in that context, is is it fair
Speaker 2: to go, hey, we've got to spend money on other projects.
Speaker 4: I am up for spending money on other projects, but
Speaker 4: you know, with city numbers and budgets, it becomes a
Speaker 4: shell game. I'm just pointing out, and we'll point out
Speaker 4: that eight million dollars is very real money. We did
Speaker 4: this vote before the city's budget. We're in the budget
Speaker 4: process now, which involves community engagement, public hearings, hearing from
Speaker 4: our department. Is before we even did that budget process.
Speaker 4: We had this vote yesterday, which, from my perspective, came
Speaker 4: out of relatively nowhere and said this eight million dollars
Speaker 4: is the priority. We need to have this vote before
Speaker 4: the budget process. To me, that's very frustrating and unnecessary.
Speaker 2: I mentioned this to a council member Albeat yesterday and
Speaker 2: said a lot of members, like yourself you just mentioned,
Speaker 2: said that they felt this came out of left field,
Speaker 2: Like why did this thing get pushed to the front
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, just simply out of where it's
Speaker 2: been on the agenda, but all of a sudden, we're
Speaker 2: having a non binding vote on this thing that was
Speaker 2: contentious at five to four, and it's going to move forward.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to pass or not.
Speaker 2: But one of the questions I asked is, hey, you know,
Speaker 2: we not long ago. We just we went through Jeff Pastor,
Speaker 2: Tamya Denard, of course PG. Sittenfeld. We had what's happening
Speaker 2: with House bill or center Bill six in or Maya's
Speaker 2: housepot for whatever, the first energy scandal with Larry Householder,
Speaker 2: and of course that whole thing. We had corruption on
Speaker 2: a public level in Cleveland, Toledo, Dayton, and of course
Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati. And someone may look, well, this has
Speaker 2: just came out of nowhere, and now we're going to
Speaker 2: fast track this money despite doing a survey that says
Speaker 2: it's not on the priority list. We got to fix
Speaker 2: the roads. It's terrible. Crime is an issue right now.
Speaker 2: People aren't coming downtown. That's a problem. Yet we're gonna
Speaker 2: give eight million dollars to Riverbend and Mimi. And the
Speaker 2: question was is it fair for a voter to think
Speaker 2: are we in another phase of public corruption? I think
Speaker 2: it's a fair question because the optics on this are terrible.
Speaker 4: The optics are very bad. I'm definitely hearing from citizens
Speaker 4: and I appreciate their feedback and them listening. Process and
Speaker 4: transparency are important. There's so many questions about this, but
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what the eight million dollars gets us.
Speaker 4: Is the eight million dollars in the sapary to complete
Speaker 4: this project. They've already broken ground, they're building the facility.
Speaker 4: Presumably they've got a finance plan in place to pay
Speaker 4: for it all. So I don't know why they're coming
Speaker 4: now and saying they need eight million dollars to what
Speaker 4: that's going to get us?
Speaker 2: But we also I think the projects still like one
Speaker 2: hundred million short. Isn't that so that that's a drop
Speaker 2: of the ocean?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, because I have not seen the performer.
Speaker 4: I have not seen the graph. I'm ritchie about what
Speaker 4: the expenses alread again, with the eight million dollars can go.
Speaker 2: That's a scary part about it is there's no performing here.
Speaker 2: And that basically means that smart people and accountants poured
Speaker 2: over this thing and said, well, here's what's expected, here's
Speaker 2: the revenue projection, here's where you're going to make money,
Speaker 2: here's where're going to lose money, and then present that
Speaker 2: to council for the investment. I look at this and go, okay,
Speaker 2: it's ave. If you can legitimately invest eight million dollars,
Speaker 2: get your money back in five years, and then make
Speaker 2: more interest in perpetuity, that's good for the city.
Speaker 3: That's a good deal. I take that deal.
Speaker 2: You take, but we don't know other than the word
Speaker 2: of the symphony, that that's going to happen.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: You know, no independent auditor or anyone has gotten in
Speaker 2: and looked at the books.
Speaker 4: That was a critical step that's been missing the process.
Speaker 4: The city manager was not, you know, presented with the
Speaker 4: structure of this deal. If we understood the deal, understood
Speaker 4: with the eight million dollars, why that was necessary, you know,
Speaker 4: then you can understand the situation and maybe begin a
Speaker 4: negotiation about, you know, what this looks like and how
Speaker 4: would benefit the taxpayers. Without that information, we cannot have
Speaker 4: an informed discussion.
Speaker 2: Council member Scotti Johnson said, this is reckless and irresponsible.
Speaker 3: Do you go that far?
Speaker 4: I think the process has been reckless and I responsible.
Speaker 4: I think that this is a good project. You know,
Speaker 4: I think there are paths forward, but I think it's
Speaker 4: been a very frustrating start. And that's an understatement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not just Anna, I'll be I mean
Speaker 2: Seth Walsh front of the show, said it's been in
Speaker 2: the works for at least a year or two, and
Speaker 2: you said counsel learned about in the past few weeks.
Speaker 2: I mean, who's right and why does that matter?
Speaker 4: I don't know who's right. I can just say that
Speaker 4: I had my first meeting about thirty days ago and
Speaker 4: received the ask and was told at that juncture that
Speaker 4: there was an urgency to it and that we would
Speaker 4: have to circumvent the budget process. So that was all
Speaker 4: thirty days ago. That was very frustrating. I think the
Speaker 4: city manager was surprised that she was not breached, and
Speaker 4: I think that hurt the mayors frustration. Yesterday or on
Speaker 4: Wednesday as well.
Speaker 2: The city's looking at the thirty five million dollar hole,
Speaker 2: thirty five million general fund deficit, and supporters say that
Speaker 2: all the capital budget. Of course that's a separate pot
Speaker 2: of money. That's a different one. Capital expenditures, you have.
Speaker 2: Does that distinction hold water if you think do you
Speaker 2: think that the average taxpayer, who may not pay attention
Speaker 2: to the very minute details of the things, actually cares.
Speaker 4: They are a two separate budgets, and that's important. But
Speaker 4: to me, the capital budget, where they're trying to get
Speaker 4: these dollars, is more important because these are the things
Speaker 4: that taxpayers see, like roads, like parks, like bridges.
Speaker 6: Like sidewalk.
Speaker 4: So when they say this is just coming out of
Speaker 4: the capitol budget, that's all the more frustrating.
Speaker 2: Also at a time when we're down one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty cops too. Now, granted we're fast tracking a new
Speaker 2: class and we can't get them online fast enough and
Speaker 2: hired it fast enough and train, but again, is that
Speaker 2: perception like, wait a minute, You've got eight million dollars
Speaker 2: a river bend, but the roads are falling apart. Crime
Speaker 2: is a problem. We don't have enough cops on the
Speaker 2: streets where we're losing money left and right. People aren't
Speaker 2: coming downtown like they used to because of the economy,
Speaker 2: but also because of public safety. I think it just
Speaker 2: doesn't pass the snipsest for a typical voter.
Speaker 4: I ah my gods. We always say that they six
Speaker 4: city services are police, fire roads. We say that's the priority.
Speaker 4: Then we've got a vote like this where we pull
Speaker 4: a special project to the front of the line and
Speaker 4: say this is a priority, so.
Speaker 2: It can't be bug right, right, Well, we've seen this before,
Speaker 2: like every administration. You know, you go back, you're around
Speaker 2: when the Mahogany thing at the banks was going down,
Speaker 2: and that was like, hey, we had a really good
Speaker 2: meal with this lady's small restaurant in Hamilton. Why don't
Speaker 2: we put her in, you know, like a myfair lady
Speaker 2: proposition that she wasn't ready for and she failed. Not
Speaker 2: I don't think because she cooked bad food. I had
Speaker 2: her food, it was wonderful. It's because maybe she couldn't
Speaker 2: scale her business up that they gave her all this
Speaker 2: money unchecked. And you know we see that time and
Speaker 2: time again. Supporters say this is going to generate one
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars in annual economic impact and we'll get
Speaker 2: the investment back in five years.
Speaker 3: I mentioned that the open Jeff Kramer thing. Why don't
Speaker 3: you trust those numbers.
Speaker 4: I think this is a good project I wanted to happen.
Speaker 4: I think there's a role for the city's partner play.
Speaker 4: But you see these economics studies time after time, no
Speaker 4: matter what the project is about, the tremendous economics and
Speaker 4: until where there are so I want it to happen.
Speaker 4: But to justify an eight million dollars outlay from the
Speaker 4: capitol budget is a very big deal. And that's going
Speaker 4: to take work in due diligence and understanding this project,
Speaker 4: what the partners are, and what it's going to take
Speaker 4: to get it done.
Speaker 2: That resident satisfaction survey I mentioned that came out overall
Speaker 2: quality of life dropped down from like sixty five I think,
Speaker 2: to under fifty percent. The perception of Cincinnati is a
Speaker 2: good place to live went from sixty five to forty
Speaker 2: two percent.
Speaker 3: That is just jaw dropping.
Speaker 2: Rhodes ranked number one in importance in that same survey
Speaker 2: and dead last and satisfaction. So if you took that
Speaker 2: eight million dollars and you said, okay, we're going to
Speaker 2: take that eight million dollars and give that to pothole
Speaker 2: repair and maintenance, could we still make a den in
Speaker 2: that simply because we're so far behind. I think that's
Speaker 2: an important nuance, is that we are so far behind.
Speaker 2: It's been ignored for so long that it's going to
Speaker 2: take a better part of a decade just to catch
Speaker 2: up to where we should be. Eight does eight million
Speaker 2: dollars six app.
Speaker 4: Yeah, eight million dollars doesn't fix that. You know, I've
Speaker 4: been I could be leading advocates for getting caught up
Speaker 4: on infrastructure. It's going to take time and focus to
Speaker 4: do that. So is this eight million dollars? Uh? Would
Speaker 4: that fix all the potholes?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it would not do. I think send me eight
Speaker 4: million dollars out without process, without due diligence for concert
Speaker 4: venues for the symphony, I think that sends a very
Speaker 4: bad time that this campal does not have focus.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then there's a safety component too, and that's
Speaker 2: that's way down. Property crime is way up. Is an
Speaker 2: argument that the Farmer Music Center, this would be called
Speaker 2: the Farmer Music actually helps that. You know, it's a
Speaker 2: quality of life thing for sure, but you've got to
Speaker 2: pay a lot of money to enjoy that quality of life.
Speaker 4: Sure, again, this this this venue is a great thing.
Speaker 4: The symphony is a great assert in the city. But
Speaker 4: you still need to do math to see where you're
Speaker 4: getting the best value for taxpayers dollars. This is a
Speaker 4: very important matter of trust.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the timing of it was crand kind of odd,
Speaker 2: but those who would afford to say no, this has
Speaker 2: been part of the plan for a while. It just
Speaker 2: came to the top yesterday. But it surprised a lot
Speaker 2: of people. And that's a confusing part, I think for
Speaker 2: us in the in the cheap seat here who are
Speaker 2: observing this going, boy, somebody's something right here. It just
Speaker 2: doesn't sound right. But that aside. You know, the projector
Speaker 2: of one hundred million in revenue, you know what I'd
Speaker 2: like to see, and this is part of it. I
Speaker 2: asked Anna, and I'll be this yesterday and I don't
Speaker 2: know if she answered the question or not, But okay,
Speaker 2: so the projector is one hundred million five years. You
Speaker 2: get your money back, your made hole, and then you
Speaker 2: make all this tax revenue perpetuity. Well, I know Mimi
Speaker 2: does it. MEMI is a nonprofit. First of all, they
Speaker 2: don't pay taxes now, certainly not property tax. Of course,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of other taxes say pay as well.
Speaker 2: But I also look at it and go, all right, well,
Speaker 2: we have an existing river bend and we're gonna use
Speaker 2: it up a little bit and add another stage and
Speaker 2: all this and maybe get a few bigger acts.
Speaker 3: But that's another another issue.
Speaker 2: How much more money can we make on top of
Speaker 2: an already existing infrastrut I mean, it's already there. It's
Speaker 2: not like, hey, if we build this, you know, it's
Speaker 2: like opening like what they're doing in Cleveland, right, they're gonna, hey,
Speaker 2: we're gonna make all this extra money because you got
Speaker 2: luxury suites. Okay, I see that, but this is just
Speaker 2: remodeling the same property. How much more money can you
Speaker 2: squeeze out of that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And it is it worth eight million dollars? I think
Speaker 4: that is the critical question that that has been unanswered
Speaker 4: to date.
Speaker 2: And it's just a time where you know, we have
Speaker 2: this the fund from un unclaimed funds pot of money
Speaker 2: that state he are taking And I kind of laughed.
Speaker 2: Tq wel home of the FC Cincinnati team is asking
Speaker 2: for money. They just opened the damn stadium like two
Speaker 2: weeks ago. It's like what, Because the money is there,
Speaker 2: that's why. And I don't blame Jeff Birding in company.
Speaker 2: If you have a pot of money, it's like, why
Speaker 2: would you tap into that? You think it's the same
Speaker 2: mindset here.
Speaker 4: Well, I think that's I think that there's the possibility
Speaker 4: that could con set a disturbing press. I mean, what
Speaker 4: the Symphony is saying, it's correct, is that their facilities generate.
Speaker 6: Admission tax, which they do.
Speaker 4: The admission tax is worth it's two percent of the
Speaker 4: city's budget. Most of that is produced by the sports team.
Speaker 4: So what they're saying is, well, we're produced, we're giving
Speaker 4: you admission tax, and we deserve this eight million dollars.
Speaker 4: We're entitled to it. So if that's the logic, then
Speaker 4: certainly FC is entitled admissions tax money and the Bengals
Speaker 4: are entitled deserves and we're going to lose that revenue strength.
Speaker 4: So if everybody starts saying this admission taxing phase goes
Speaker 4: to our special project for renovation or parking garage or
Speaker 4: whatever the perceived need is, which is just going to
Speaker 4: create a hole in the city's budget, a bigger hole
Speaker 4: in the city's budget.
Speaker 2: If you guys don't give them the eight million, is
Speaker 2: the project in jeopardy.
Speaker 4: I have seen no evidence that that would happen. Again.
Speaker 4: They've they've broken ground, they started the project, that they're out,
Speaker 4: the project being built, and after all that, they came
Speaker 4: to the eight million dollars, they would have come to
Speaker 4: it at the beginning. Again, it would have been more timely.
Speaker 4: It's a more thoughtful conversation, and don't want to dig
Speaker 4: up the old wound. But sunlight pool was you know,
Speaker 4: many citizens very passionate about that. And if the Symphony
Speaker 4: came to with early and said, you know, we need
Speaker 4: eight million dollars for this project, that could have been
Speaker 4: part of the conversation like, okay, you want city money, well,
Speaker 4: residence one of us, if there's sunlight pool whatever, really
Speaker 4: need that't from that, So that could have been part
Speaker 4: of the conversation as well.
Speaker 2: I think I push back. I disagree on that one.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely on the Symphony side with the with the
Speaker 2: sunlight pool, I mean, it's a huge giant pool that
Speaker 2: fewer and fewer people were going to because everyone has
Speaker 2: a pool in their backyard, every community as a pool.
Speaker 2: It's not the attraction it once was. And I just
Speaker 2: didn't get the numbers down there. Despite advertising trying to
Speaker 2: do everything, people were just going down there anymore. Kind
Speaker 2: of maybe like the theater model. I don't know, everything
Speaker 2: has its it's time and place in history. I had
Speaker 2: a lot of was like, hey, let's let's do something
Speaker 2: else with this land here, and it was more an
Speaker 2: iconic kind of thing that you know, it was about
Speaker 2: the memories. It wasn't about what's happening right now. You know,
Speaker 2: if people were showing up the sunlight pool, they wouldn't
Speaker 2: have to close it.
Speaker 4: I think, I think, you know, there were citizens that
Speaker 4: wanted to create a foundation they could go over on
Speaker 4: their own. They've done that in other neighbors throughout the city.
Speaker 4: I think that conversation, it could have been part of it.
Speaker 4: Right now. The simpy's just using that site was the
Speaker 4: pool for a parking lot, so there was no pressing
Speaker 4: need to demolish it. The timing, to me, the timing
Speaker 4: of that makes part of this whole process as far
Speaker 4: as what happened when, yeah and why?
Speaker 2: All right, this is a non binding resolution. The eight
Speaker 2: million dollars is not yet made it in the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty seven budget. You got to do. I think July
Speaker 2: first has a drop dead on that one is to
Speaker 2: fight over or is this going to get relegate? What's
Speaker 2: going to happen?
Speaker 4: No, I think the conversation is going to continue. I'm
Speaker 4: hearing a lot of questions from citizens society on the
Speaker 4: City Hall this is the most controversial vote we've had,
Speaker 4: this being five to four, because it was obviously very
Speaker 4: devices and this is producing a lot of conversation, a
Speaker 4: lot of phone calls. So I think that the questions
Speaker 4: we will continue as the budget process continues. The next
Speaker 4: stage is for counsel to to draft the priority budget,
Speaker 4: which is because what our priorities are back to priority yep.
Speaker 4: And if the five votes are there and they continue
Speaker 4: to say, that is eight million dollars of priorty that
Speaker 4: will go in our priority budget. That will go into
Speaker 4: the city manager and she will have that when she
Speaker 4: drafts the actual budget.
Speaker 2: Is a transparency and issue with me. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like they strike me as like the Bengals. You know,
Speaker 2: they go, Okay, listen, we need a contribution. We did
Speaker 2: money was saying, but they're really not forthcoming and transparent
Speaker 2: about what it is they're doing.
Speaker 3: Is that problematic for you?
Speaker 4: It's very every project I've had, there's been the big
Speaker 4: Excel spreadsheet where everybody's number in the city's number. Invention
Speaker 4: Center was a very good example. A different project, but
Speaker 4: a good example, huge spreadsheet, lots of different sources. The
Speaker 4: city's numbers started very high and his other revenue sources
Speaker 4: came online, like the naming rights. We saw the city's
Speaker 4: contribution go down. So at all points we knew what
Speaker 4: was going to take to get that project done. We
Speaker 4: knew what the city's ass who's going to be, We
Speaker 4: knew what the County's that's who's going to be. We
Speaker 4: had all the partners there and we could watch the
Speaker 4: project developed. That has not happened at all with this project.
Speaker 2: I think that says a lot, and yet it feels
Speaker 2: like almost at some point we're going to hand the
Speaker 2: eight million dollars off you got between now in July
Speaker 2: first to sort all this out. Jeff Cramerting, thanks so
Speaker 2: much again for the time. He is a chair Budget
Speaker 2: and Finance in the City of Cincinnati and he has
Speaker 2: problems with it and we should as well. All the best, buddy,
Speaker 2: have a great weekend.
Speaker 4: You have a great weekend.
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Speaker 7: This is the Local Loop with Ali Martin on seven
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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, it is Friday, and our friend Ali here
Speaker 2: to put a cap on the show this morning.
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm great.
Speaker 8: Road's a little funky this morning, So if I sound silly,
Speaker 8: that's why.
Speaker 3: Wow. All right McConnell, good morning. Let's go. Let's talk
Speaker 3: about beer.
Speaker 8: The first day of spring, first day spring, Happy March madness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, happy March madas first days.
Speaker 2: We're officially now in springs of ten six this morning,
Speaker 2: we've got March madness.
Speaker 3: We got the doors open.
Speaker 2: The Holy Grail Banks by the way is doing a
Speaker 2: Miami watch party. My buddy John Strawsser putting that together
Speaker 2: and let's go pull that thing off. So it's gonna
Speaker 2: be packed and stacked with Miami Redhawk fans at the
Speaker 2: four twenty five today.
Speaker 3: I believe his tip.
Speaker 8: Miss Sarah, you know we'll be there. She's a Miami grad.
Speaker 8: Are you do you have a bracket going?
Speaker 6: I do?
Speaker 3: I don't do it all right, I'm like Ace, I
Speaker 3: think out of.
Speaker 1: Put some money down.
Speaker 8: I've got ten bucks in okay, So if hypothetically you win.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like, here's the thing. So I wasn't because
Speaker 2: I normally, like, of all the sports, like you only
Speaker 2: have so much time, I don't pay attention to as
Speaker 2: much to college basketball. I'm me in this time of year,
Speaker 2: you gotta watch the games. But our market manager Steph
Speaker 2: is like, well, not enough people are participating in Austin's game.
Speaker 2: So he put the He put like, why are you
Speaker 2: people playing this? And Bessie said, you know what, I'll
Speaker 2: up the annie. Whoever wins the pool gets a day off.
Speaker 1: Let's go get swarm.
Speaker 2: It or yeah my bracket, my team name is Stephan
Speaker 2: forced me and and anyway, I hope I win, I
Speaker 2: get a day But did you pick Michigan win at all?
Speaker 1: Michigan?
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, this year I have not because Xavier's not
Speaker 8: in it. So I just haven't been paying attention at all.
Speaker 3: All right, as you.
Speaker 2: See the RedHawks, no, no, definitely West Miller got fight.
Speaker 1: I actually saw that yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't fight your head coach. He nonetheless, anyway,
Speaker 2: it's a beautiful day for it, and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: looking forward to just relaxing a little bit and have
Speaker 2: a nice easy weekend with a great weather.
Speaker 8: Here I know well, and honestly, speaking of March madness, right,
Speaker 8: there are loads of places that you can go and
Speaker 8: watch around town. Right, this is the situation. Here's a
Speaker 8: stitch where you need to be in a place it
Speaker 8: has a lot of TVs. You need to have munchie
Speaker 8: appetizers because you're raising, you're hanging out, and the other
Speaker 8: aspect of it is you need sound. I'm that person
Speaker 8: if I'm going to watch a game, which is can
Speaker 8: be very complicated because if you have a lot of
Speaker 8: games going at once, pick the best game.
Speaker 1: Throw some sound on.
Speaker 8: All right, So you kind of mentioned it before, right,
Speaker 8: so you have down at the Bank, you got Holy Grail,
Speaker 8: the Pitch Kitty Sports Grill.
Speaker 1: That's actually a really great half of Third Street.
Speaker 8: So you know where the Blind Pig is, Lolas, just
Speaker 8: keep going past it if that's on your right and
Speaker 8: have a big mural right out front.
Speaker 2: That is it.
Speaker 3: That's a spot, really really.
Speaker 1: Super divy, along with the knock back net.
Speaker 2: That's the spot. I'm gon wings and popcorn is sick
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they put on their back.
Speaker 3: I don't know what. I don't know what nats, but
Speaker 3: popcorn is.
Speaker 1: It's probably filling our gut with.
Speaker 3: Should more bars be doing the popcorn?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Look what it does for gnats. The wings are unbelievable.
Speaker 2: It's great, and they crank it out in that small
Speaker 2: kitchen and the vibe is awesome.
Speaker 1: Because you know, and the vibe is right and you know.
Speaker 8: At the same time, it's not like you're going to
Speaker 8: get a gourmet old fashioned and that's not what it's
Speaker 8: meant for.
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. They've got touch tunes? What
Speaker 1: touch two? What where you can control the music?
Speaker 2: Are you high?
Speaker 3: Are you an? If you do drink so much nightcuil?
Speaker 2: You're If you turn touchdowns on today, you're going to
Speaker 2: get killed.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not going to do that today, Diamond,
Speaker 1: but I will.
Speaker 8: There is a commercial break. There's a commercial break.
Speaker 3: Some crappy new country song coming out.
Speaker 8: I don't want to see the Ford commercial. I want
Speaker 8: to listen.
Speaker 3: To you want to DJ between.
Speaker 1: I want to listen to Ludacris.
Speaker 3: It's basketball. It's basketball going on.
Speaker 8: Play either way. I'm just giving props. And because they
Speaker 8: actually have stop.
Speaker 3: All right when maybe when the game isn't on.
Speaker 8: What I'm saying between, not every game time to bring
Speaker 8: that up. Every game is good, never, every game is great. Whatever,
Speaker 8: move to the next thing. I'm done, way because you're
Speaker 8: sick and you're weird right now. Weirdo, what do you hide?
Speaker 3: You drink all the night?
Speaker 8: You'll know because you know what I should have because
Speaker 8: what happened was that sixteen year old telling me my
Speaker 8: license was expired.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let save that for the end, because I want
Speaker 2: to say that's a great story. Yeah, we're not done.
Speaker 2: All's a law breaker.
Speaker 1: We're still in the middle of this tawny breaker.
Speaker 8: But I will say, speaking of sports, because we're on
Speaker 8: this topic, Bread's opening days Thursday next week, so we
Speaker 8: kind of really can't.
Speaker 3: I'm aware of this.
Speaker 1: We can't closs over it. I'm sure you'll talk about
Speaker 1: it a lot.
Speaker 2: You think boys only I were broadcasting live at the
Speaker 2: Holy Ground Banks at nine am with Mogger Be on Thursday.
Speaker 1: I'm so sad.
Speaker 8: It's gonna be what the one hundred and fiftieth opening day. Sure,
Speaker 8: that's wild, one hundred and one hundred and seventh Finley
Speaker 8: Market Opening Day parade. If you haven't been, go, if
Speaker 8: you just go, just get down there, take your free
Speaker 8: day off. Everybody should have the day off anyway. Parade
Speaker 8: starts at noon. The route it's on South South Race
Speaker 8: to east on Fifth and it ends at the Taft Theater.
Speaker 1: It's about a mile and a little over a mile.
Speaker 8: Got your Grand Marshall, Jeff the Cowboy Brantley, your first
Speaker 8: pitch Bronson Arroyo, and then your Honorary Captain Dave Conception.
Speaker 1: They read legend, yeah, legend, and.
Speaker 8: You have a full timeline right, So starting at ten am,
Speaker 8: here's my recommendation. I typically like to start in the
Speaker 8: Finley Market area. I love hanging out outside of Uncle Leo's.
Speaker 8: If you haven't been there, it's all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Start around the filey Marketer, follow the parade,
Speaker 1: move with the parade. This is my recommendation.
Speaker 8: Maybe pop into the Holiday which is in that same round,
Speaker 8: or just like pop in at the end.
Speaker 1: Of the parade.
Speaker 8: I have done that before and it's really fun and skyline.
Speaker 1: So throughout the whole day.
Speaker 8: If you're going down and pop into Fountain Square, they
Speaker 8: are doing the free cheese cony.
Speaker 3: Good you got buy a coke?
Speaker 1: I think you do have to buy a coke with it, so.
Speaker 3: And not died coke coke.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, a Coca cola. Coca Cola the og from
Speaker 8: ten am to four pm. Keep in mind, yes they
Speaker 8: do serve Cony's in the ballpark. That's not going to
Speaker 8: be a thing in the ballpark, So don't expect that
Speaker 8: there's going to be Court Street plaza celebrations with the
Speaker 8: parade viewing and live music, food and drink there. And
Speaker 8: then if you start making your way down closer to
Speaker 8: the banks, there's like Vintage on Race, they're always having
Speaker 8: a party. That's a great spot to pop into. I
Speaker 8: think John John is DJing down at Morel Like that's
Speaker 8: around like noon, all the way till eight he is.
Speaker 8: He dj is everywhere.
Speaker 1: The man is everywherebelievable. Do you think he's cloned himself?
Speaker 2: No, I think he's going to die by the time
Speaker 2: he's forty, is what I think. Oh my goodness, gow
Speaker 2: it down. What do you Kevin Hart? Say no to something?
Speaker 2: I hope he's making bank, not Kevin Hart bank. It's
Speaker 2: a different bond game.
Speaker 3: Eight hours of playing music.
Speaker 1: He's not actually going to be playing.
Speaker 3: Are you going to watch the game something else? Do
Speaker 3: you need a DJ on opening day?
Speaker 1: Actually? No, that's a good point. Is he gonna be
Speaker 1: there for eight hours?
Speaker 4: Him?
Speaker 3: Probably?
Speaker 1: It probably is.
Speaker 3: He so annoying.
Speaker 1: Outside of more line, but he'll keep the tunes going.
Speaker 1: He's a great DJ.
Speaker 2: He's a great DJ, but not today or Thursday. I
Speaker 2: guess it is a thing. Well, I know it's his thing.
Speaker 2: Good for him, good for it. One am I avoiding?
Speaker 3: Where is he going to be?
Speaker 1: He's gonna be more lines? Also, I think they're rebranding.
Speaker 3: I'll be it.
Speaker 2: I'll bet the grail watching baseball.
Speaker 1: Tucking up the store. Who is you gonna have a
Speaker 1: DJ there?
Speaker 2: You know we're watching the game and listening to it
Speaker 2: on seven hundred w W.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I can't commercial break posers anyway, So yeah, again,
Speaker 8: it's Red's opening down.
Speaker 1: That I can't not put it on the listen.
Speaker 2: If you can't, you.
Speaker 3: Need you need to know. Just keep listening to this
Speaker 3: radio station. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 8: I really don't want to linger on it because you
Speaker 8: guys are gonna be talking about it.
Speaker 2: Not as big as the iHeart Radio Podcast Awards, but
Speaker 2: it's a close section.
Speaker 1: What was that the other day? Who won the was
Speaker 1: a giggly squad? I don't great podcast page. I forget fantastic.
Speaker 2: All right, so everything's going to be downtown. Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: let's talk about food. Let's talk about Okay.
Speaker 8: First of all, I want to touch on something I
Speaker 8: want to call back. Remember how we were talking about
Speaker 8: It was like, hey Soft served margaritos. Yeah, it's a thing.
Speaker 8: I did a little research.
Speaker 3: We had something there, didn't we.
Speaker 8: I know, you think that we come up with the
Speaker 8: most original collapsed so El Trompo Mexican grill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a real thing.
Speaker 8: It's in West chest They have a street from Monroe,
Speaker 8: Mason and Coal Rain. This is the like the robot
Speaker 8: Mexican place. Have you seen this where everything is lit
Speaker 8: on fire. It's very similar to.
Speaker 3: Everyone's doing that now.
Speaker 2: We had our Mexican joint last night and they have
Speaker 2: the like the glowing ice like every thing you have,
Speaker 2: it's got fire. And I don't know where this trend
Speaker 2: started at Mexican restaurants, but everything is a blaze and
Speaker 2: like there's fireworks coming out of it and cheerleaders and
Speaker 2: it has tron. It's like, I don't know what's happened.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like the Japanese cultures that hit the
Speaker 2: Mexican culture and it's turn in this whole.
Speaker 1: Thing Fourth of July every day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 8: I'm always looking for the nearest exit just to gaze
Speaker 8: my boothleg.
Speaker 2: It's a Hello kiddy in a sombrero. I don't know
Speaker 2: what the hell's going on over here?
Speaker 1: And then out pop snoopy.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's like everything is. I just
Speaker 2: want to margarita. I don't need it to be on
Speaker 2: fire with smoke. With the other thing.
Speaker 8: They put three, it's like a bloody Mary. Then they
Speaker 8: start putting all of your tacos and berea and yeah
Speaker 8: and all of the accents in your margarita.
Speaker 2: All right, but anyway, but we're here for it, soft
Speaker 2: served margarita.
Speaker 1: There should go all the different flavors happy hours.
Speaker 2: There's one in uh another, there's one in Mason obviously, Monroe.
Speaker 1: It so and there there is a Westchester.
Speaker 3: Now Westchester too, where's the Westchester the tower there? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I got it.
Speaker 1: So when we thought.
Speaker 8: Something was original, it's we missed out.
Speaker 1: We miss We won't open up our own Mexican joint
Speaker 1: anytime soon.
Speaker 3: No, that's good.
Speaker 2: That would be cultural misappropriation.
Speaker 1: I don't make that good of tacos.
Speaker 2: So yeah, probably not ally Martin here. It's a local lop.
Speaker 2: What to do, eat sea and happen on this glorious
Speaker 2: weekend here, the first weekend of spring, with spring kicking
Speaker 2: in about an hour ago.
Speaker 1: So it's nice out there.
Speaker 3: Let's go okay.
Speaker 8: So, also in the news and the talk of the town,
Speaker 8: the Aperture, which has been a very well known restaurant,
Speaker 8: has won a lot of awards with chef Jordan Anthony
Speaker 8: Brown part of the announcement right where it's like, okay,
Speaker 8: you did this. They were doing this culinary residency with
Speaker 8: et Ja the Beast Steakhouts that I've mentioned in the past,
Speaker 8: and they decided to close their doors for a little bit,
Speaker 8: to not completely in forever, but to officially relaunch into
Speaker 8: something else. And they have officially relaunched and they are
Speaker 8: doing a lunch barbecue set up in this So Anthony
Speaker 8: Brown he talks about how barbecue is actually a return
Speaker 8: to his roots and he has memories of watching his family,
Speaker 8: you know, cooking in the backyard and Cleveland and Cincinnati
Speaker 8: and his trips to Texas. So he decided to pull
Speaker 8: this Midwestern barbecue tradition and morph it a little bit
Speaker 8: into his one of his favorite Quinn scenes, which is
Speaker 8: his Mediterranean style. So it's this interesting morph and they're
Speaker 8: doing this pop up throughout lunch. Yeah, and definitely if
Speaker 8: you're going in, check out the brisket.
Speaker 1: So it's brisket.
Speaker 8: They have smoked pork ribs, they do a crispy pork belly,
Speaker 8: a lemon pepper chicken wing, fried chicken sandwich, pimento cheese.
Speaker 8: So it's about nine to ten items on the menu.
Speaker 3: Find something to eat.
Speaker 1: You'll find something to eat.
Speaker 8: But it's it's Wednesday through Friday eleven am to two thirty,
Speaker 8: and then they're also going to be opening Saturdays eleven
Speaker 8: to four.
Speaker 3: Got it.
Speaker 1: So it's lunch only.
Speaker 8: They're testing it out, and they really wanted to create
Speaker 8: an environment that's just more consistent because the aperture, as
Speaker 8: wonderful as the food was, it wasn't becauld. You know,
Speaker 8: there's not those staple items that you can go into
Speaker 8: and it was almost like a little ahead of time.
Speaker 1: It was to New York.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh it felt a little to New York. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, gotcha? All right, So anyway, that is in
Speaker 2: a wafall. So, uh, by the way, you mentioned the
Speaker 2: beginning here with March madness and such going on, that
Speaker 2: you are a nibbler that you'll nibble along the way,
Speaker 2: So I'm really bad at that. Now I'll get in
Speaker 2: and I cannot wait to start drinking.
Speaker 1: Is that because you don't like to share your food?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want your I don't know your hands,
Speaker 3: and Bendley.
Speaker 1: You're sick.
Speaker 3: I can't afford of losing my boy.
Speaker 2: I'm more of like, I'll go in and like, I
Speaker 2: can't wait till I'm gonna have an alcohol drinking or
Speaker 2: drinking beer drinking, and then I get so hungry, like okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a cheeseburger and six wings and then
Speaker 2: I eat like half of it, and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: I want to go to bed.
Speaker 3: I gotta do a better job.
Speaker 8: I understand that because as someone who like hypothetically, my
Speaker 8: favorite spot to go and watch anything is O'Brien's, and
Speaker 8: the menu, the whole menu is banging, and of course
Speaker 8: I know I'm also going in with a relatively empty
Speaker 8: Sure you're gonna be either for four hours, and I'm like,
Speaker 8: do I just order everything.
Speaker 1: All at once?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, kick, I'd like to do it. It doesn't work,
Speaker 1: all right?
Speaker 3: Before we go here, it's Alie Martin.
Speaker 2: She's at Ali Martin eight and The Good Drama on YouTube,
Speaker 2: and one of the things she featured was she forgot.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's it.
Speaker 2: I didn't think that's an affirmative defense or anything in
Speaker 2: the court system.
Speaker 3: Is your honor? I forgot. I forgot murder crime.
Speaker 2: I forgot.
Speaker 3: I forgot you're not allowed to kill?
Speaker 2: Did I do that?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Look real quick?
Speaker 1: My license driver's license, okay, okay.
Speaker 8: So I had to retake my driver's test because because
Speaker 8: I let it expire. Because and here's the thing, in fairness,
Speaker 8: my registration everything was up to date. I didn't check
Speaker 8: my birthdays in July.
Speaker 1: I didn't check it.
Speaker 8: And then at the end of twenty twenty five and
Speaker 8: I was traveling on this nobody tsa says anything all
Speaker 8: the airports. Some sixteen year old at Kroger while I
Speaker 8: was buying cough medicine aka night quill, goes, Madam, your
Speaker 8: driver's license is EXPA. Sounds like me kind of like,
Speaker 8: what what do you mean? So then I go in
Speaker 8: and I'm like, hey, I need I need up this
Speaker 8: and the and keep in mind.
Speaker 1: I could have. I probably would have just at the window.
Speaker 8: I procrastinated a month and she goes, yeah, we can't,
Speaker 8: we can't up it.
Speaker 1: It's six months.
Speaker 3: Passed and you have to fly for business too.
Speaker 1: I'm well, they didn't say anything.
Speaker 3: He doesn't care. They're like they're not getting paid. I wouldn't, like,
Speaker 3: you're fine.
Speaker 1: Like what do you what do you mean?
Speaker 8: She's like, you have to take you have to retake
Speaker 8: your whole driver's test. Oh and guess what, you have
Speaker 8: a motorcycle license. You have to do that too. And
Speaker 8: I sat down right there on the spot. I took
Speaker 8: my the written test, passed it. I did pass it.
Speaker 1: I will say some of it. Some of them stop makers.
Speaker 1: It was like question the d U. I I'm like,
Speaker 1: if you does.
Speaker 2: A limit in an alley, I don't live in an alley,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 8: We passed, and then went and took the driving test
Speaker 8: the other week. I was nervous for the maneuverability because
Speaker 8: those cones are tight, and my car.
Speaker 1: Is a Jeep, so it's not the smallest.
Speaker 2: Your head pokes are like Fred fl like Dino in
Speaker 2: the black seat.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, take the top off, and then if you
Speaker 8: hit the cone. If you bump the cone, you have
Speaker 8: to go back to driving school.
Speaker 2: So then a lot of pressure.
Speaker 8: I'm chit chatting with the gout with me, and I'm like,
Speaker 8: is this protocol?
Speaker 1: Are you alloted of?
Speaker 8: Gibber jabber, big jibber jabber, Thank you good gibber.
Speaker 2: You and my wife gibber jabber in a room. Come
Speaker 2: back in a month. They're still going.
Speaker 1: I think it helped. And I rolled up with them anual, Okay.
Speaker 1: I was just trying to impress, to show them that.
Speaker 3: You got your license back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but now I have the motorcycle.
Speaker 2: Now, you'll never let this happen again. Will you put it?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: Check your your millennial put it in your calendar. My
Speaker 2: daughter does the same things, Like I didn't know you
Speaker 2: got a calendar.
Speaker 3: On your phone.
Speaker 1: We just got the real ideas. So I'm thinking I
Speaker 1: had like five years on it.
Speaker 8: Two years later, little did I know my registrational leases
Speaker 8: up to.
Speaker 3: Day breaking the law breaking a law.
Speaker 2: Check your idea, Allie Martin local loop. You have a
Speaker 2: great weekend.
Speaker 3: Good because you can't drive seven hundred comedy Halton