1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: It's the d D Morning Show. Randy Bauman, along with 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Bill Crawford and Abby Prisner, Mike Pursuda from New Jersey 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: dot Com, The New York The New York Star Ledger, 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: New York Yankees beat writer Randy Miller joining us right 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: now on the DV Morning Show. Randy, good morning. How 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: are you man? 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: I'm great. It's great to be on DVE. I'm a 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: native Jeannette, the guy who's your station. 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: It's been a long time. We haven't spoken in a while, 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: but you know, I know you in pursuit have been 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: friends for a long time, but you and I have 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: crossed paths a couple of times, and it's definitely good 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: to talk to you again. This story is making a 14 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: lot of waves here in Pittsburgh. There's some some people 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: who are saying, oh, oh well, Paul Sken's denied this report, 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: but I don't hear a denial in what he said. 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: What did you make of Paul Sken's comments about your 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: story about him wanting to be traded to the Yankees 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: and vocalizing that to teammates. 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: I wasn't surprised. I haven't been a Yankee writer. I 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: covered the Phillies for seventeen years and this is my 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: coming up, my eleventh of the Yankees. And over the 23 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: years I heard a lot of stories from people would 24 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: have been in the organization, not good stories, and a 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: lot of people have been unhappy there. And I did 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: a big story last year on Domingo Herman and how 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: that the Pirates signed him after he'd been through a 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: lot of issues and the parts didn't do their due diligence, 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: and I kind of had a pretty interesting phone conversation 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: with GM after that. It doesn't surprise me, and then 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: I helped players. Are a lot of friends in the 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: game and people I talked to, and when I heard 33 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: this story, I wasn't surprised, but it wasn't from what 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: it wasn't his schemes. I heard that a lot of 35 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: people when they're there. It's when you're in the miners, 36 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: get to the big leagues, they can develop you and 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: then get out of there because owner just isn't going 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: to spend money and schemes wants to win. I'm in 39 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: Las Vegas right now for the GM meetings, and I 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: waited out and spoke to the Pirates GM the other 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: day by myself for a little bit and I told 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: him what I'd heard, and he's just he wasn't surprised. 43 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: He knows. He told me that every one of our 44 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: conversation schemes, I want to win. I want to win. 45 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: He's been the best priority probably since Barry Bonds and 46 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: EANs is doing it the right way. And it's sad 47 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: to me. I grew up a big park fan, kept 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: score probably one hundred and twenty or thirty games a 49 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: year in the Starguel Park or Candelira era, and it's 50 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: sad what they become. It's just I hope that the 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 2: owner sells the team at some point. I think there's 52 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: going to be a lockout next year that might we 53 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: might even lose the entire twenty twenty seventh season. I 54 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: know the owners want to get a floor to the 55 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: I get a cap on the floor, and maybe that's 56 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: the best thing that could happen to Pittsburgh because it's 57 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: it's a shame. And look, everyone knows that there's no 58 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: chance the Pirates are going to keep Paul Schemes for 59 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: the long run. There's just no shots. He's going to 60 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: get probably five hundred million at some point. And also, 61 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: by the way, there's before I even talked to a 62 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: pirate about this, and it was brought up to me. 63 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: It wasn't something high asked. It was brought up to me, 64 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: and it was I know in my story it was 65 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: a couple of comments, but it was a ten in 66 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: the conversation about the pirates. But I've heard from being 67 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: out in the New York area, I have heard from 68 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: people that that schemes. His girlfriend has told people that 69 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: he's going to be a Yankee. I heard that second hand. 70 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: I didn't write it because I heard it secondhand. 71 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: But was for an apartment in Dormont. 72 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: I thought, I think she tried to buy Babe Russel 73 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: the Little House and it got denied at one point. 74 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: So after that happened, I had heard stories. Who who knows. 75 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: I just know that at one point last year, someone 76 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: had told me that it's keen to talk about wanting 77 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: to be an angel, and I mentioned the story about 78 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: how he got Mike Trout's autographs. From what I've heard, 79 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: people have said to him, why would you want to 80 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: be an angel? Look what they've done to Mike Trout's career. 81 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: Look what they've done to the six years of a 82 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: twenty career. You're going to go there and beat your 83 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: hometown team, and you're never going to win. And now 84 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: I'm hearing I'm hearing the Yankees, and I'm not hearing 85 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: that anything's going to happen. Now. I think he can 86 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: be a part for a couple more years. But I 87 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: do know that that from talking to people with the 88 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: Yankees that they have heard the same thing. They've they've 89 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: kind of laughed off, like, hey, you know, you hear 90 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: this stuff all the time. Everybody wants to come here. 91 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: Let's let's see what happens down the road, you know, 92 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: for agency's a long way. Now, see what happens down 93 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: the road. So the Yankees have heard this. They've heard 94 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 2: the stuff too, not from me, they've heard it from 95 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: other people. 96 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: The Skis agent must be like, shut up, you're killing us. 97 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: Ye. 98 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: You know, I have a funny story on you know, 99 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: I ripped the Pirates because I love the old Pirates 100 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: and it's sad what bedcome. But this, this is a 101 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: story that kind of illustrates what the pirates are. And 102 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: you wonder, why is nutting like this? You know, if 103 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: he's going to be an owner, why not put some 104 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: money into the team. Well, a few years ago, a 105 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: long time friend of mine passed away, and I'm at 106 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: the dinner after the funeral and I'm sitting next to 107 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: his my friend's cousin, and her husband was there, and 108 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: her husband was a lot older, and we're talking about 109 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: my job, and her husband says, Hey, I want to 110 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: let you know. I am friends with Nutting's father, who 111 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: I think passed away maybe a couple years ago. And 112 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: he says, every year there's a few of us that 113 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: make this trip to Colorado, and it's a bunch of 114 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: rich people to go and have these dinners and go 115 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: hang out for several days. He goes, what's crazy is 116 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: we're these dinners and there very expensive dinners. And at 117 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 2: the end of dinner, Nutting's dad pulls out of his 118 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: jacket instant coffee and says, I ain't paying twenty dollars 119 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: for damn coffee. So here's a guy that has close 120 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: to a billion dollars that was bringing his own instant coffee. 121 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: So when you say, you know, the apple doesn't fall 122 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: afar from the three like, it's just when you hear that, 123 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: it's just like, oh god, you know, it's it's sad 124 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: to me. But look, there's no chance are keeping Schemes 125 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: for the long run. I think this year ms Keller 126 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: is going to make sixteen point four million. If they 127 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: don't trade him, that'll be the richest contract in pirate history. 128 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: I hear that he's available for a trade, Reynolds is 129 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: available for a trade. He's making money. But when it 130 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: comes time for Schemes to get into his fifth and 131 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: sixth year, I think the last year he might make 132 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: might set a record for arbitration eligible numbers, which might 133 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: be thirty thirty five. I think Soto had the record 134 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: two years ago, and the Yankees maybe thirty one million. 135 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: By then, Schemes can get thirty five million own the 136 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: open market. He's gonna get fifty million dollars a year. 137 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: And it's just it's just he's never he has no 138 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: shot of staying. So at some point the pirates are 139 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: gonna have to trade him. When I talked to the 140 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: GM two days ago, he said, the way to keep 141 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: him the longest is to is to win. Well, keep 142 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: him the longest. What does that mean? Keep him for 143 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: five years instead of four, six years instead of five. 144 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: That's that's the best case. The best case scenario I 145 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: believe is that is that he gets to where Garret 146 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: Cole was. You know, I talked to Garret Cole a 147 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: lot who who still loves Pittsburgh and still upset that 148 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: the Pirates didn't keep him for six years. And they 149 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: try to win because a lot of people that I 150 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: talked to that come through your organization, they just love 151 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: the city. They love the fans. They know what it 152 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: was like in the seventies when they won, when the 153 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: Pirates were as popular as as the Steelers, more popular 154 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: than the Penguin. And now what there's a couple of 155 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: generations of fans that know nothing but losing. And the 156 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: Schemes is already the best right handed in baseball. He 157 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: s google the side young winner for Detroit are the 158 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: best two pitchers in baseball, and it's sad that he 159 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: has no shot of making the playoffs. What are the 160 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: Pirates gonna do this year? The GM says, Oh, we're 161 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: gonna spend a little bit more money. What's that mean. 162 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: They're gonna get to get one back. That's a five 163 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: million dollar player. That's not gonna change anything. They're gonna lose. 164 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: They're gonna lose eighty five ninety games for Suregan next year. 165 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: It's just not gonna change. 166 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: And that's Randy, correct me if I'm wrong. That's your 167 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: perception of how baseball looks at the pirates that are 168 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: not a serious player. 169 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: Of course they're not a serious player. And and the 170 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: thing is is that we always hear the small market. Well, 171 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: look at Milwaukee, Milwaukee. I've been to Milwaukee. I've been 172 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: there with you. The night that Mubby Bristers when sister 173 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: his sister are going to fight in the bar. Do 174 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: a different interview that one. 175 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: He's got a twins, Chubby Bristers. 176 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: I remember there was like the evil twin and the 177 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: good winning the roads. Had got in a fight and 178 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: she was being drug away and she started brought She's serious. 179 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: That's amazing. Yeah, yeah, Mike. Mike was probably seventeen beers 180 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: in and doesn't remember him. The fire engine red in 181 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: the studio. 182 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 183 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: The people are not in the industry, are not taking 184 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: them seriously? Is the suspicions. 185 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: It's how can they They've had what four winning seasons 186 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: since Barry Bonds left and and it's I think of 187 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: in the seventies when I remember being excited as a 188 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: kid win there was top Pete Rose might come to 189 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 2: the come to the Pirates. Gallbrook was going to give 190 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 2: them some horses, even gonna come, and now it's just it. 191 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: It's a joke. And they got a beautiful ballpark. People 192 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: come from all over the nation and go see that ballpark, 193 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 2: and they they just don't win. Well, why can Milwaukee win? 194 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: Why why can Tampa win? Look at Tampa. I go 195 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: to Tampa all the time. The Yankees play there twice 196 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 2: a year. On their first spring training, they get ten 197 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: thousand people at the games. And yet they've been in 198 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: the playoffs and they're in the Alo East. They beat 199 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: out the Yankees for division titles, beat them in the playoffs. 200 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 2: How can they win? Because they put a lot of 201 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: money into their farm system, they do things right. Even 202 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: with the Pirates. I hear stories that their farm system 203 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: isn't the greatest in certain areas. The scouts aren't the 204 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: greatest in certain areas. And that's where a lot of 205 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: these other teams that at least they put the money 206 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 2: in developing players, they can't keep them. I know, like 207 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: I hear a lot of times in spring training. When 208 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,479 Speaker 2: you get there, there's eighty people in the in the clubhouse, 209 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of guys that are six year 210 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: freezing minor league signings that are going to go to 211 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: trip Away, and all the ones that play for the Pirates, 212 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: I go up to them and shout with them, what 213 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: was your time like in the organization? And this has 214 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: been going for years. You just you don't hear good stories. 215 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: You know. 216 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: The one guy who loves Pittsburgh was was bednar I 217 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: I I, uh, it's a it's fun getting to know 218 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: him a little bit. He just came at the end 219 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: of the year. But the guy, the guy loves Pittsburgh 220 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: goes and he goes in tailgates with the Steeler games 221 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: of fans and and uh, Yankee fans are just seeing 222 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: what kind of guy he's A he's a true Pittsburgh 223 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: who's a bound earth guy. And I think the Yankee 224 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: fans are gonna really go to love him. I don't 225 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: think any of them understand the uh his his entrance song, 226 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: you know Steelers. Uh he's still he still he does renegade. Yeah. Yeah, 227 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: And I was pretty fair enough. I taped the first 228 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: time and sent to some of my friends dot home. 229 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: They were they were excited about it, and nobody at 230 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: the Yankee fans don't understand h. 231 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: Randy Miller from u in New Jersey dot com the 232 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: the author of the article yesterday about Paul Skeen's apparently 233 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: telling a teammate that he wanted to be traded to 234 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: the Yankees. 235 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it was just Tony Soprano in that driveway 236 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: scene where he picked up. 237 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: To Yeah, of course he was yeah. Uh but this 238 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: to me, you know, we talked about this earlier, This 239 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: to me is the least surprising story in the world. 240 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: You know, guy who's in jail, who committed to no 241 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: crime wants to escape. 242 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. I do believe that Skeens knows he's 243 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: there for a couple more years, and I believe he 244 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: wants to win there. I have friends in Louisiana that 245 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: followed him when he was at LSU from all counts 246 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: that year. He's a pretty good guy. People, pirate reporters 247 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: I talked to. I hear he's a pretty stand up guy. 248 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: But he knows, he knows he's not going to be 249 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: a long term pirate. 250 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 251 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: It's it's it's obvious. I know that he's I know 252 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: people that talked to him about it. Then, Look, he's 253 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: just not going to come out and say, yes, I 254 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: want to I want to go to the Yankees. I've 255 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: never heard anything about the Yankees. I've been telling people 256 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: last year. I hear he wants to go to the Angels, 257 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 2: and people like, what, why would he go there? That's 258 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: what someone told me that that talked to him. And 259 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 2: then now, uh, when I brought that up to h 260 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: I remember the Pirates. No no, no, no, no, no, it's it's 261 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: the Yankees. And then I said, okay, well that makes 262 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: sense because I've heard some stuff about I don't know 263 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: his girlfriend, but it's out there to where it's got 264 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: back to the Yankees. I know it's got back to 265 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 2: the Yankees that that they've heard it, and they've kind 266 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: of laughed it off. But you hear all the time 267 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: people want to play for me. A lot of times. 268 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: The agents are always throw the Yankees and everything to 269 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: drive up the price. That I still believe that he'll 270 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: be a pirate for at least two more years, and 271 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: then I think when they realized that he's not going 272 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: to sign long term, at that point he will move on. 273 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: I know Garret Cole was interested in being a pirate 274 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: a long time, long term that's heartbreaking. 275 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: That's what's heartbreaking. These guys actually do want to stay here, 276 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,479 Speaker 1: you know. And Bob Nutting. 277 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: Loved it there. He still does. We talked about Pittsburgh 278 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: all the time. I pulls a great guy to be around. 279 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: He could be the best pitching coach in baseball, but 280 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: he's never going to do it because he's made so 281 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: much money. But a great guy. And we talked about 282 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh a lot, and he look. He pitched in All 283 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: Star Games, pitched in a real series with the Yankees. 284 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: Some of his best moments of his life were the 285 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: playoff games in Pittsburgh and winning in Pittsburgh when nobody 286 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: thought today or whoever went and they had that three 287 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: year stretch where whether they were in with the wild 288 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: Card series and they won one game, whether the fans 289 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: were all over the Reds pitcher, and that was a 290 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: great moment in Pittsburgh, and it was I remember watching 291 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: that game on TV and it's like, wow, this reminds 292 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: me of what it was like for a kid. And 293 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: now it's a whole generation of fans that are seeing 294 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: this for the first time. And cool, fat, let's build it. 295 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: Let's add on to this team and at least keep 296 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: me through six years. And look, he ended up going 297 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: getting tray to Houston. He gets another World Series, goes 298 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: to the World Series there, he goes the World Series 299 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: the Yankees. He gets this big contract, but he's he 300 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: still wishes that he would have had another run with 301 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: the Pirates to see if they would have added on 302 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: that last year instead of getting rid of him, they 303 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: would have added on. He thought they were close. And 304 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: when you look at how close Milwaukee has been over 305 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: the years, I think those those Pirate teams were as 306 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: good as any of these Milwaukee teams. He looked the 307 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: same thing with the Pampa Tines. So a small market team, 308 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: if you do it right, you can you can get 309 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: in there and have a little two or three year 310 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: run like the Pirates had a few years ago. But look, 311 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: everybody knows that they're not They're not spending like they should, right, 312 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: They're keeping their luxury tax money. And uh, it's it's 313 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: disgraceful because there's a lot of great baseball fans of Pittsburgh. 314 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: I know because my friends are Pirate fans. My dad's 315 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: a Pirate fan, my cousin's a big Pirates fan. And 316 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: you see their Facebook posts and and they're still living 317 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: and dying. I have a friend in Louisiana who watches 318 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: every freaking, every freaking game, and it's like they're they're 319 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: they're so upset. Uh. One drove that drove to Cooperstown 320 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: for Parker, from Louisiana to to COOPERSTOWNE Parker's can all 321 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: they introduction. Then then two weeks later drove from Louisiana 322 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh to go see l Over going to Pirates 323 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: all Fames. So there's still huge Pirate fans out there 324 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: living in the past, hoping that they live long enough. 325 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: And but look, there's a lot of Red Sox fans 326 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: that never thought You're one of them, right, Randy, Yeah, 327 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: you probably never thought I think I got your tickets 328 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: the one year Yeah, and uh and uh and I'll 329 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: never forget it. And you never thought you'd ever see 330 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: the Red Sox win the World Series and I got 331 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: to go. And then now the Cubs have won, so 332 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: things can change. I just wonder when we heard rumors 333 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: years ago about Cuban, if Cuban would have bought the team, 334 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: how it would be different. But I still believe the 335 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 2: silver lining here for for the pirate fans is. And 336 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: it's a really good thing that the Dodgers won the 337 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: World Series this year because from what I hear is 338 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: that that most of the owners in baseball are united 339 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: against the Dodgers. The Dodgers are bringing in so many 340 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: millions of dollars in Japanese advertising that basically the the 341 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: O Tawny contract was paid off in a couple of years. 342 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: That's what I hear, And now I know a lot 343 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: of the owners, including Steinbrenner for the Yankees, who has 344 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: many billions, that they're like, we have to stop this. 345 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: We're not gonna be able to even we can't compete 346 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: with the Dodgers in their spending. They're paying so much 347 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: in luxury tax, but it doesn't matter because the advertising 348 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: money that they're bringing in from Japan is offsetting this 349 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: and they're still making money, a big money. So I'm 350 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: talking to players. They're insisting over our mid body or 351 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 2: we ever going to have our salary cap, and the 352 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 2: owners are saying, well, we're getting a salary cap. So 353 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 2: there's going to be a might be the worst work 354 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 2: stoppage in sports history, as bad as the hockey. But 355 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 2: I believe the way it's going to get solved, is 356 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: I believe there's going to be a cap. I believe 357 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 2: it'll be a high cap, so the Yankees and Dodgers 358 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: and Mets will still be able to spend a little 359 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: more than everybody else. But I believe it's going to 360 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: force the Pirates, the Marlins, the Rays, the Brewers, the 361 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 2: small market teams to spend a lot more. And that point, 362 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 2: nothing's going to either have to spend or sell the team. 363 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: And so I think that'll be a good thing for 364 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: Pirates fans, that we that they get a cap in 365 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 2: here a couple of years down the road, and that 366 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: gives them a chance to force the Pirates to spend 367 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: and get a chance to win, because it's it's a 368 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: shame that's going on here. Certainly, way way, wait too long. 369 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: Randy Miller, thank you so much. We really appreciate your 370 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: time this morning. Thanks for calling from. 371 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 2: Vegas anytime, guys. Take care allry body take care.