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Speaker 4: All we do well, at least most recently, is Win

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Speaker 4: Russell Radio kind enough to join us via the Connectico

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Speaker 4: Water Systems hotline. Can you tell me whether the aforementioned

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Speaker 4: Carill capriceof has demanded that Bill Garon make one more

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Speaker 4: significant deal before tomorrow afternoon's trade deadline.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he just imanaged that, but I think

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Speaker 3: he would obviously be happy with that. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: there's no doubt that uh Quinn Hughes coming here has

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Speaker 3: changed everything about this franchise and has Career really excited

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Speaker 3: about the future as well, and and sure, I mean

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Speaker 3: there's no doubt that, uh that that, and they're they're

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Speaker 3: on a plane now. But trust me, I know that

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Speaker 3: Bill's phone is working on that plane because I've texted

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Speaker 3: But uh, but you know, there's there's no doubt by

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Speaker 3: Bill continues to Yeah, Bill continues to look for some

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Speaker 3: still think that that maybe this big move that that

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Speaker 3: unless it's like a Robert Thomas or something like that.

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Speaker 3: I just think that they have some diminishing assets right now,

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Speaker 3: just because they've traded so many in the last couple

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Speaker 3: I think they even have to decide is it worth

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Speaker 3: try to make that move. As we saw at point views.

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Speaker 3: You know, huge trades could happen at any time. And

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Speaker 3: if you throw away your precious few assets that you

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Speaker 3: have left now on Vincent Trocheck or even a Robert Thomas,

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Speaker 4: You know, we were talking about this, I think earlier

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Speaker 4: this week, maybe late last week, in fact, you guys

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Speaker 4: a stam Coast. I apologize. The point though, for me

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Speaker 4: five years ago that that's what has this there's this

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Speaker 5: Can you speak to that?

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Speaker 3: I completely agree. I think that is exactly what's going

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Speaker 3: And when he sits there and actually is putting the

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Speaker 5: Let me do a very quick breaking news sounder. I

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Speaker 4: It's over second class double a quarterfinal game Minnesota State

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Speaker 5: And ot I mentioned earlier.

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Speaker 5: Good point. That's a really good point.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mentioned this earlier, you know, and it's it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's funny you said that. I was

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Speaker 3: actually talking to Louis. We're we have a big dinner

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Speaker 3: But I said the same thing, it's just so weird

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Speaker 4: Wild, don't need to do something stupid and desperate, writes

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Speaker 4: that's from Brandt. Make a big move this offseason if

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Speaker 5: Maybe fans are you know, maybe they're being sensible.

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Speaker 5: Now, let's one more move, let's do it.

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Speaker 4: But maybe they're like sensible fans that I thought out

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you know, I was playing out here this

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Speaker 4: Is it possible that the price comes down before the deadline? Uh,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I Mean the only thing though, is that

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Speaker 3: you're not getting the price that you want. Now, you

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Speaker 3: hold on to him because he's got three years left

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Speaker 3: what Chris Drew he's doing here, but no doubt. I mean,

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Speaker 3: would never read articles. I would never read the good

434
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Speaker 3: or bad. I don't care if I have five points

435
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 3: in a game, like you know, stay even Keel, there's

436
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 3: nothing you're gonna learn from me, and that's going to

437
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 3: make you a smarter goalie. So maybe, I mean, maybe

438
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 3: that's something to it. I do think that he paid

439
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 3: attention a little too much to the outside noise. But

440
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 3: I will say this is well in advance of him

441
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 3: having his name in the trade talk. But you're right,

442
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 3: I mean, this has been a very public thing, and

443
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 3: you know, the reason why it's become so public is

444
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 3: not so much that it's coming from the wild, is

445
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 3: that we're all just using our head here and realizing

446
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 3: that that they just don't have a lot of assets

447
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 3: and that if they're going to get a true number

448
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 3: one center at some point they have to throw them

449
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 3: out there, like like if they were going to for

450
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: Robert Thomas tomorrow. You just have you just know that

451
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,959
Speaker 3: wallet that's got to be in that deal. I mean,

452
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 3: it just has to be so like so you know,

453
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Speaker 3: if they're going to get in on Brady to Chuck

454
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Speaker 3: this summer, if all of a sudden he wants that,

455
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 3: you just know that Wally's gonna have to be in

456
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 3: that deal. So I don't I just with with Gus

457
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Speaker 3: Seinn till thirty one and with a no move for

458
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Speaker 3: the first three years. I just don't know right now

459
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 3: if we could say that that ball set's you know,

460
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 3: long to this organization, whether that's tomorrow or the saut

461
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Speaker 3: season or next year.

462
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Speaker 4: What did you learn from being embedded in the Hughes

463
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Speaker 4: late night media experience.

464
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 3: That I want to work in TV. That'd be fun,

465
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 3: you know, meeting Nicole Kidman and stuff like that. Like

466
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 3: it'd just be what a cool like experience every day

467
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: to just meet a different celebrity and things like that.

468
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Speaker 3: But it was fun. I mean, you know, like again,

469
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Speaker 3: this is stuff that doesn't happen for the Minnesota Wild

470
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Speaker 3: And this is why I know that A lot of

471
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 3: like not a lot, but you know, I was getting

472
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 3: a lot of tweets from fans really thinking like this

473
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: is good, you know, like he needs to pay attention

474
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Speaker 3: to go wild. It's it's game sixty something.

475
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Speaker 4: GUARDI said the same thing. Roles on this show were reversed.

476
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 4: Usually I'm the guy complaining about that. I'm saying, enjoy

477
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 4: its celebrated.

478
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 3: It's fine.

479
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 5: I mean we be finding Guard. He's like, get back

480
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 5: with the team. What's going on here?

481
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 3: Yeah? Like Guards so like it like to me, like

482
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: a Minnesota wild Player was on the SML. In the

483
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: history of SNL and HL players you had You've had

484
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: Wayne Gretzky hosting, and then the Bread Hull, Jack Hughes

485
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 3: and Quinn Hughes. That is it his fifty year history

486
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Speaker 3: of SML. No other than making fun of Brady Shay's

487
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 3: name once, you know, like, uh, that's it. And then

488
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, you know they're on the

489
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Speaker 3: tonight show. It's Jimmy Fallon. And this is again when

490
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: you think about this, it's a Minnesota wild player. I mean,

491
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 3: we're just this. You know, we always think of ourselves

492
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 3: as this, you know, hockey die Area, you know, state

493
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 3: of Hockey, all that stuff. But the reality is that

494
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: in the NHL as much as this has been an

495
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 3: incredibly good organization. It's had a lot of regular season

496
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: success and made the playoffs, it's still kind of this

497
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: forgotten franchise in the National Hockey League where people just

498
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 3: almost didn't take it seriously. And part of it's because

499
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 3: they don't go on long playoff runs. But now all

500
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: of a sudden, they're on the map. And so that's

501
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 3: why Bill Garon was totally encouraging Quinn to do this,

502
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 3: and trust me, and I respect it. Quinn was nervous

503
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 3: about it because he knows that he needs his rest

504
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: and to play the way that he wants to play

505
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Speaker 3: twenty eight minutes. And you know, I'm just impressed that

506
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Speaker 3: he did it, that he I thought he was really

507
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 3: good on both shows, and then he comes back and

508
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: has an unbelievable highlight real goal last game, and he's

509
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: good as we've seen him. So I just think it's

510
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 3: a really cool thing. But it was awesome being in

511
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Speaker 3: New York and seeing that stuff.

512
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Speaker 4: Lloyd and I talked about the Garon component because I

513
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 4: think he wrote it about that too, and I I

514
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 4: was impressed too, because I I I'm not even sure

515
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 4: I would have expected it from garn but I kind

516
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 4: of liked it because again, this is this is a

517
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 4: once in a lifetime kind of a thing, right, This

518
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 4: ain't gonna keep happening every every year, every every eight weeks,

519
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 4: whatever the case may be. And I kind of like

520
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 4: that Garan said, we'll get you know, we'll get everybody back.

521
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Speaker 4: We're gonna be that's not going to get in the

522
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Speaker 4: way of this. Play this out, enjoy the hell out

523
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Speaker 4: of this. To me, that's mature. I think that's the

524
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Speaker 4: mature approach to take.

525
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Speaker 5: Believe it or not.

526
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Like I still remember what was it twenty

527
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: years ago? I remember seeing Garon on David Letterman and like,

528
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: this is this is really this is really cool stuff.

529
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Speaker 3: And it's one of those things that years and years

530
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Speaker 3: and years from now and Quinn's career is over, he's

531
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Speaker 3: gonna look back on as being one of the highlights

532
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Speaker 3: of my life. And and again, you know it was.

533
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Speaker 3: It was. It's really like I've I've gotten lucky and

534
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 3: seen a couple of these things in my career and

535
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Speaker 3: I and I remember, oh one, I got to see

536
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Speaker 3: a lot of the behind the scenes of I went

537
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Speaker 3: to a Katie Holmes gave Matthew's band UH Saturday Live

538
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Speaker 3: with with UH some Panthers players on the after party

539
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: at the Rushing Tea Room. So I've seen, I've seen

540
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 3: some cool things. But to be to you know, be

541
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: in that tonight show studio and and to see how

542
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 3: everything's done and and all that type of stuff, it's

543
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 3: it's just a fun thing. And then when you look

544
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: and you you got Jack and Quinn out there and

545
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 3: the proud parents and the in the audience to move

546
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Speaker 3: need it's.

547
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Speaker 5: Good for the game too. Beyond the Wild.

548
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: It's absolutely good moment right now. And you know, like, look,

549
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: I know that the whole politics and stuff with everything

550
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: that happened after the fact that I mean everybody, there's

551
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 3: obviously going to be a divide there. But the reality

552
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: is that this team went out in one goal at

553
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 3: the Olympics and that's something that should be celebrated. And

554
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: and the fact that you know, Quinn Hughes was such

555
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: a huge part of that team and it is getting

556
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: celebrated for it any place. For the Minnesota Wild, I

557
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 3: think it's pretty neat.

558
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Speaker 4: Thanks Russ, We'll chat next week. I appreciate your Russell

559
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 4: Ray with great stuff. As always, we are going to

560
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 4: shift some basketball conversation. We have not caught up in

561
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Speaker 4: a long time with my former colleague Mitch Lawrence, an

562
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 4: outstanding pro basketball reporter now analysts. These days, we'll catch

563
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 4: up with him on some Wolf stuff and some league

564
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 4: wide controversies as well.

565
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Speaker 5: Lots of ground to cover. He is coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Wolves the Fan welcome some great shows allege Amphitheater this year.

567
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Speaker 4: We'll switch from the game of hockey to the game

572
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Speaker 4: of basketball. If you have questions for Mitch Lawrence, Brashawan,

573
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Speaker 4: Brian kaf and text line is open at six four

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Speaker 4: six eight six. Welcome back to the program. I hope

575
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Speaker 4: you've been doing pretty well well.

576
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Speaker 3: I'm doing great. I'm doing great. Dan, how you've been

577
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: all right? Yeah?

578
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Speaker 4: We're doing okay here. I think you know, like a

579
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 4: few teams that are good. We're trying to figure out

580
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 4: what can we be great again, or can we be

581
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 4: great enough to at least get as far as the

582
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 4: Wolves did have the last two years and beyond it,

583
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Speaker 4: and I Nationally, my perception is the Wolves are not

584
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 4: viewed as a team that is likely to go as

585
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Speaker 4: far as they did a year ago.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, can you speak to that?

587
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 4: What do you and your of course you do all

588
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: kinds of national stuff with serious x XM.

589
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Speaker 5: What do you hear?

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Speaker 3: Well? I think I think the general feeling throughout the

591
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: country is this is a In the West, there's Oklahoma City,

592
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: the defending champs, who've been all banged up, yet they're

593
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Speaker 3: still looking like the best of the bunch. Not you know,

594
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Speaker 3: earlier in the year after they got off to that

595
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: crazy start and people had them, you know, penciled in

596
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: for like seventy three seventy for our winch which was nuts,

597
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: because you know, the season plays out and stuff happens

598
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: and people get hurt. But they look like the class

599
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 3: right now. But close behind people are talking about who

600
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: Victor Woman, Yanna and the Spurs for you know, rightfully,

601
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: So I mean, all of a sudden they're a factor

602
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: in the West, and then everybody always talks about, well,

603
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: you know, if Den wherever gets healthy, track together and

604
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: gets Aaron Gordon back because Joker is still the best

605
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: player in the sport. So those three teams are getting

606
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 3: more of the talk than Minnesota. I thought Minnesota did

607
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: themselves a world of good getting Io de Sunlo when

608
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: they did back at the deadline. Helps their back court,

609
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: who's never a dilling Ham guy, and he was going

610
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: to be a point guard. Their point guard situation, as

611
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: we know, has not been the best. I mean, that's

612
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Speaker 3: a guy someone who I thought the Houston Rocket should

613
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: have got in the worst way. So no, the Timberwolves

614
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: are not being talked about because of those other three teams.

615
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Speaker 3: But you know what, they could still they could still

616
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: go pretty deep in the playoffs, depending obviously on matchups

617
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: and how things play out over these last twenty twenty

618
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Speaker 3: five games.

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Speaker 4: It might be too that that maybe this is their

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Speaker 4: advantage that they are just sort of, I don't want

621
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Speaker 4: to say overlooked, but they're not looked at that at

622
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Speaker 4: that top level, and you can just sort of go

623
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Speaker 4: out and play and be perhaps a little bit you know,

624
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Speaker 4: under the radar screen.

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Speaker 5: I want to I want to ask you about that.

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Speaker 5: There's been a.

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Speaker 4: Growing, i think ongoing debate about Oklahoma City and their

628
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 4: approach defensively in some ways and even offensively as it

629
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Speaker 4: pertains to SGA. And this came up again the other

630
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Speaker 4: day when Doris Burke kind of went off on a tangent.

631
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Speaker 4: This was during the Wolves I think this was there

632
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: in the Wolves Denver game and Edwards got called for

633
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 4: an offensive file where he extended his arm and and

634
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Speaker 4: and and Doris took that opportunity to say, oh, now

635
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 4: here's where I'm confused.

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Speaker 5: And here's where I think Edwards has a point.

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00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 4: That's a play that SGA makes regularly and seems to get.

638
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 5: Away with it. So we need a little bit more

639
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Speaker 5: consistency in that regard.

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Speaker 4: So where are you on the whole discussion about what's

641
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: fair on ok see when it comes to the way

642
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 4: they are officiated, and what you think is just envy

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Speaker 4: and jealousy because they've obviously had such a good run.

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Speaker 3: Well last night, I mean, people in New York today

645
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 3: are still going ballistic about, you know, getting job by

646
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Speaker 3: the officiency. Look what SGA does. He gets away with

647
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Speaker 3: more than Brunson and he should add three thousand in

648
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: the first ten minutes of the game. They didn't call

649
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Speaker 3: him on a charge which would have been his third

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Speaker 3: bout well, listen, you know to the victor's goal, the

651
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Speaker 3: spoils and as the champion, they were able and have

652
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: been able to figure out a way to play super

653
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: aggressively on defense and a lot more physical than other teams.

654
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: Maybe can get away with they and then offensively. You know,

655
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: Mike Brown says that you know SGA's fooling people, the

656
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: referees into you know, you know, thinking he's getting more

657
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 3: contact than he really is. Right, you know, a lot

658
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: of to me, a lot of it is sour grace.

659
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: I mean, as we know, and you've been around the

660
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: NBA a long time and that baked into the DNA

661
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: and the NBA is the superstar treatment that we've seen

662
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: the top players in the sport get. And now it's

663
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: SGA's turn. Back in the eighties, you could identify Michael

664
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: Jordan put him at the top of the list getting

665
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 3: away with certain things. Even Patrick Ewing in New York

666
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: was getting the benefit of calls when he did his

667
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: little bunny hop across the lane. So that's part and parcel.

668
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 3: It's like tanking. It's always been a part of the NBA,

669
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: but the crying and the moaning is more this year.

670
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: I think and something might have to do it. There's

671
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: been a lot of turnover with the officials. You don't

672
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: have the veterans have tried and two you know, year

673
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: in and year out guys, they've kind of been phased out.

674
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: You have more younger officials, less experienced. They may be

675
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: getting fooled more by some of these guys. But I'll

676
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: tell you this, everybody who's complaining about SGA or this

677
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: guy gets away with this or this guy, those teams

678
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: would love to have those type of players because they know,

679
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: even in the playoffs they might get the benefit of

680
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 3: doubt on some calls. So there's a there's a you know,

681
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: there's a lot of screaming going on a lot of

682
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: cities about this. And once again, social you know, years ago,

683
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: when you know we sort of what Jordan was doing,

684
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: you'd report it, you're write about it. That's one thing.

685
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: Now it's social media. It's twenty four to seven, so

686
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: it just lives. It's an entirely different existence. And so yeah,

687
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 3: it's a whole different world now. So to his credit,

688
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: SGA can do some things. But I did actually watch

689
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: what you're talking about with Doris Burk, and I thought

690
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: it was an interesting thing that Anthony Edwards, who himself

691
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: is a top tier player, he hasn't won an MVP.

692
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: I think he might be a notch below SGA in

693
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: terms of where ranks in terms of MVP votes. I mean,

694
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: he's a hell of a player. For her to make

695
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: that big distinction, that was pretty eye open, Yeah, it was.

696
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: I My argument to her would have been that the

697
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 4: mistake I thought Edwards tends to make is he's not

698
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 4: clever about how far he extends the arm that the

699
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 4: that the ones who do it well, I think, including SGA,

700
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 4: because he does do it, I don't think. I think

701
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 4: they're they're a little more subtle about not extending in

702
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 4: enough of an exaggerated fashion that I think it at

703
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 4: least becomes easier for the ref to say, you extended,

704
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 4: we're gonna call it. And and again that's all the

705
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 4: eyes of the beholder. Different people can see different things,

706
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 4: But I think that's part of it. I think, you know,

707
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: is just how sly you are with it is. It's

708
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 4: that's that also I think has been baked in the game.

709
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 4: It frustrates people, but it doesn't frustrate people if you

710
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 4: have that player.

711
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 5: On your team.

712
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 3: No that's the player you want to have on your team.

713
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: Those are those are the guys. And you know, we

714
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: all remember Michael Jordan's famous push off against Russell in

715
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 3: the deciding game in Utah of the what the ninety

716
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: eight finals, where clearly you know, right are on the

717
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: league some of the league officials told the Jets, yeah,

718
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: he should have been called for an offensive out. You

719
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: really think they're going to call offensive found that situation

720
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 3: on Michael Jordan's all right now, and it's not gonna happen.

721
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 3: Just like last night. They were not going to nail

722
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: Shake Gilders Alexander with three thousand in the first ten

723
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 3: minutes of that game. That's not I mean just that

724
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: that's the way where people might say it's unfair, is

725
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: that that's the way the NBA operates. They want the

726
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: superstars on the court, and sometimes they'll keep those guys

727
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: a little more leeway. And you're right, you have to

728
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 3: be sly. You have to know, you know, you have

729
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: to know how you can get away with things so

730
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: that you can fool the ress. He drives other coaches nuts,

731
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: gives other players nuts, but more power to the teams

732
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: than have those type of players well, Mitch, the way.

733
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Speaker 4: I look at it is, for years I have believed

734
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 4: in the concept of tanking responsibily. This is called cheating responsibly.

735
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 4: But as you say, people do not want to hear

736
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 4: about it. They want to say, well, it's just be

737
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: there's an inconsistency to it. Now, I will add that

738
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 4: where I was annoyed regarding Oka see was the Dort

739
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 4: play on Joker, which to me isn't a whole other

740
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 4: category there, because I thought that was as bad as advertised.

741
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 4: He had every right to get up as and be

742
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 4: as angry as he was. That was a pretty I thought,

743
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: a pretty cheap play by a player who also on

744
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 4: the defensive end, does have.

745
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 5: A reputation a bit.

746
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not getting away with that, you know, listen,

747
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: it's not like they were protecting yokis that Obviously he

748
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: went after his knee, which is a vulnerable thing. He

749
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: had the injury, So yeah, I mean, he can't get

750
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 3: away with that, and that you shouldn't that that shouldn't happen.

751
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: And clearly, whether it's Lou Dort or other guys who

752
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: play with the real edge physically across the line and

753
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: when you cross the line especially against the top tier

754
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: player and then you know, a multi winning MVP, you

755
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: were going to get nailed for it, and that's and

756
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 3: you got to pay the price. So you know, Dort

757
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: made that mistake. He won't probably make it again. But yeah,

758
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 3: it was an amazing reaction from Yoker Joker because it

759
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: looked like he was really going to unload up and

760
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: he showed a lot of He showed some amazing restraints. Yes,

761
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: because that that really hits home for a player like that.

762
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 4: He knew how far I think he was I'm willing

763
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 4: to go. He obviously knew. I wanted to make the

764
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 4: point that I can't just lay there. I'm going to

765
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: have to get up and get in you.

766
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 5: But you're You're right.

767
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 4: I think he's also sensible enough to know I'm too important.

768
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 4: I gotta there's only so far I can go. Let

769
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 4: me squeeze in a real quick break to get caught

770
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 4: up mid Mitch Lawrence kind enough to join us via

771
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Speaker 4: the Connectico Water Systems hotline.

772
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 5: Texts are coming in.

773
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 4: We'll get to a couple of those and get into

774
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 4: a couple of other juicy NBA topics, like the question

775
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 4: of is there such a thing in the NBA as

776
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 4: tanking responsibly and is that now lost to a lot

777
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: of irresponsible tanking.

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Speaker 4: Mitch Lawrence is back with us as he waits patiently

785
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 4: via the Connectico Water Systems hotline. I had Sam mitchellan

786
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: right after the trade deadline and I propose something that

787
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 4: had him calling me a blithering idiot. And as you

788
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 4: know it's Sam, he's going to give you your opinion.

789
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 4: And my theory was that, as insane as it sounds,

790
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 4: on one level, I actually thought, I know that the

791
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 4: Wolves were definitely trying to see if there is a

792
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 4: path through which they could get Giannis. There's no question

793
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 4: they were in that hunt. Ultimately, I think they decided

794
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 4: Bucks don't really want to move him now, so we're out.

795
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: But I actually yearned for the Wolves to try to

796
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: acquire James Harden. Mitchell said, again, you're an idiot. You

797
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 4: should know better than that why would you want him?

798
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 4: But I want to get your view on him, because again,

799
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 4: it's water under the bridge, and I don't even know

800
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,479
Speaker 4: if there was a deal that would work for both sides,

801
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: how much would you have to give up to get them.

802
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 4: But I've come around on Harden, notwithstanding some of the

803
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 4: playoff disasters which we're aware of, to thinking that this

804
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 4: form of Harden now appeals to me in a way

805
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 4: that maybe previous forms have not. He's landed in Cleveland,

806
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 4: gotten off to a really good start there. Where are

807
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 4: you on the whole James Hardened debate.

808
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: I'm on your side. And it's funny because when they

809
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: made that trade, I was I was thinking, man, this

810
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: is a big move, a very potentially a very good

811
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: move for Cleveland, because first of all, he plays versus

812
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 3: Darius Garland, who always has some sort of a tow problems,

813
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: and he's a much better player when he does play. Now,

814
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 3: your point about the playoffs, we all know, we've seen it,

815
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: and it seems like it always happens at the wrong

816
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 3: time for James Harden an elimination game, in a deciding game,

817
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 3: he'll disappear, and that is his legacy right now in

818
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: a lot of ways. So but I love what Cleveland

819
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: did because I thought this could actually help them get

820
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 3: through the East and have a much more of a

821
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: chance because you know, listen, I'm not a huge Donovan

822
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: Mitchell guy. I'm kind of in the minority on this.

823
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of bookamirs more don especially

824
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. He's had some real playoff failures to

825
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 3: back in use and in Cleveland. He you know, and Okay,

826
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: he's a he's a hell of a player. I understand that.

827
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: But I thought if you brought James Harden, that's gonna

828
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: take a lot of pressure off of Mitchell. And I

829
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: think what it's also going to do is it's going

830
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: to help get the best out of Evan Mobley because

831
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: now is you know, a lot of people say he

832
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: has a tremendously high ceiling. Well, we haven't seen all

833
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: that we see in kind of bits and vitches. We

834
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 3: certainly haven't seen that in the playoffs. But if there's

835
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: one guy who's a playmaker, who can make big guys

836
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: better and who's seen it throughout with Harden, it is

837
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 3: James Harden. Whether it was in Houston, Clint Capella with

838
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: the Clippers. So yeah, I like that move. Now Listen

839
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: is looking like it's just got a lot harder for

840
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 3: all the teams because Jason Tatum's coming back, and Jason

841
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: Tadum comes back and is effective and doesn't have setbacks,

842
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 3: and he's the old Jason Tatum. Well, they have now

843
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: a number one scoring option slash MVP caliber player they've added,

844
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: which puts them above Detroit, which puts them above Cleveland,

845
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 3: which puts them above New York. I mean, this thing

846
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 3: with Jason Tatum, this could be the thing that really

847
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: turns around the East in Boston's favor, if, of course

848
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: everything's fine with his achilles. But I mean, we'll see.

849
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 3: But no, I was bored. Now, Sam and other people

850
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: are very much down on Harden, and it really has

851
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 3: only to do with the biggest thing, and that's the playoffs.

852
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: The playoff games were just implodes.

853
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 4: I just think, you know, again here, I don't know

854
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 4: what the configuration would have been, but I think here

855
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 4: he'd know at this point he doesn't have to be

856
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 4: the main guy.

857
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 5: He's a great distributor. He can still score.

858
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 4: I think I think Edwards would profit dramatically from what

859
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 4: he might open up, but again we will never we

860
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: will never know. Speaking quickly on the Celtics, the stat

861
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 4: I saw, I think it was from your guy justin

862
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: Termany is in speaking to the Celtics run this year,

863
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Speaker 4: the coaching that's been done, how the players have stepped

864
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 4: up despite obviously the big loss is that even in

865
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 4: games where they didn't have Jalen Brown, they were like

866
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 4: six and one in their average margin victory was like

867
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 4: twenty points.

868
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 5: It's amazing.

869
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 3: I mean, the other night when they're playing Milwaukee, Giannis's

870
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: big return, Jalen Brown didn't play the second game of Backpack.

871
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: He had some sort of a non COVID illness, so

872
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 3: he didn't even make the trip, and they really just

873
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: toyed with the Bucks. The Bucks look like, I mean honest,

874
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: looked like he didn't really want to be there. He

875
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 3: looked at his situation like I got to get out

876
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 3: of here. The way he played, I mean, he still

877
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: put up the doubles. All fine, But all these other

878
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: Boston guys who nobody's really ever heard of them except

879
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: you're if you're just in Ermany a huge Celtics fan,

880
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 3: they got they compete all the time and they always

881
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 3: bring it and then they are just relentless and that's

882
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: credit to them, that's credit to Joe Missoula. It's been

883
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: an amazing season. I mean, I hate what they did

884
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: in terms of they moved guys like Drew Holliday and

885
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: christophs erzingis not because they didn't like those guys, but

886
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: because they had to get under the second April. And

887
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 3: to me, there's nothing worse in sports than penalizing teams

888
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: that have built quote unquote the right way and know

889
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: what they're doing and and somehow bringing them making it

890
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 3: more level. And it kind of you're you're you're hurting

891
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 3: that team and helping everybody else close the gap. It's

892
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: an artificial thing, I really. I mean, Drew Holliday was

893
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 3: a major loss, He's won a couple of titles. Kristaps helped.

894
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 3: Even though nobody can figure out what's wrong with him,

895
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 3: it's still amazing scene what he really knows. So yeah, So,

896
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 3: I mean, Boston's just been this incredible story. And for

897
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: you know, Jalen Brown over the last couple of months.

898
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 3: I heard the stat recently where he is now kind

899
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 3: of less efficient, more of a volume shooter. He needs help. Yeah,

900
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: you know, everybody thinks it's his team. It's not his team.

901
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: It's Jason Tatum's team. And Jason Tatum's going to be

902
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 3: the one who's going to take them places if they're

903
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: going anywhere this year. And I think Jason Tatum, besides

904
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: having that Kobe mentality, Kobe was his guy and he

905
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: loves to compete. I think Jason Tatum looks at the

906
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: East and says, if I'm back with this team, we

907
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: can get out of the East. Because Detroit's never won

908
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: a playoff series, the Knicks are still going to have

909
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: problems without Thibodeau. Maybe Mike Brown is that it will

910
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: see what Mike Brown does in the playoffs, but they're

911
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: still kind of you know, Jalen Brunson and Karl Anthony

912
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: Towns are one way players. You don't win with that

913
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Cleveland has James Harden. So why can't

914
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: we if I come back and play the last twenty

915
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 3: games in the regular season and get on a bit

916
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: of a role, why can't we end up playing Oklahoma

917
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: City or Minnesota?

918
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 4: Last item for Mitch Lawrence for today. As you well know,

919
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 4: the league implemented a minimum game rule when it comes

920
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 4: to postseason awards at sixty five games to discourage as

921
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 4: much load management as possible. What we're seeing this year

922
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: is I think some players legitimately hurt are among the

923
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 4: biggest names, and they are approaching that threshold where they're

924
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 4: not going to be able to get to sixty five games.

925
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 4: The reaction in the media community and some of the

926
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 4: jackals is we overcorrected. This is ridiculous. The best players

927
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 4: are not going to be received the awards that they deserve,

928
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 4: so we have to find a way to get rid

929
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 4: of that minimum requirement. Where are you on that whole issue?

930
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 4: You're willing to live with it? That just is a

931
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 4: bad luck this year because of some of the names

932
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 4: happen to be coming close to that. Or do you

933
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: think the league did overreact a couple a few years

934
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: ago when they put that that minimum requirement.

935
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: In overreact because it was a joke. I mean, guys were,

936
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: you know, sitting out games and nobody cared about the

937
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 3: regular season. So of course, if the players and teams

938
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 3: don't care about the regular season, why should fans put

939
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: down their hard earned money go to a regular season

940
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: game They don't know who's playing. So I know league

941
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 3: did the league did what they had to do. Is

942
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 3: it a fluke gear. Maybe we'll have to see, But

943
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 3: I think this is still you have to put the

944
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 3: player's feet to the fire here. I agree and ensure

945
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 3: that when people are going to the arena for the

946
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 3: most part, they're going to see, you know, the best,

947
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: the top players, because it is Hey, this goes back

948
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: to it's a superstar league, and that's who you're marketing,

949
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: and that's who your TV contract is built around, and

950
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: that's who fans want to see. They don't want to

951
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: see backups and understudies and second and third stringers. So yeah,

952
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: I think I think the league still has to continue

953
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 3: that because the player's mentality to me is still you know,

954
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: it's not like Jason Tatum loves the competition, he wants

955
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: to be out there and he's hustling back after less

956
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: than ten months, you know, on an Achilles tair. I

957
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 3: think there are still guys who are like, you know what, well,

958
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 3: you know, if I want, maybe I will play the night,

959
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 3: maybe I won't. And that's that's a problem, especially when

960
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: it seeps into the top players in the league. That's

961
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 3: not good.

962
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: That, by the way, is one of the strengths of

963
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 4: the Wolves. They have been from the top. They've made it,

964
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 4: they've proclaimed it. We are not a load management team.

965
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 4: Edwards has been hurt more this year, but he's been

966
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 4: hurt more so they are. In fact, Randall hasn't missed

967
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 4: a game yet this season. That's not why his whole career.

968
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 5: But I do like that here.

969
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 4: This is not one of the players Edwards has talked

970
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 4: about over the years. I want to play and I'm

971
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 4: going to play, and I do like that that mentality

972
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 4: was declared from Tim Conley on down and and I

973
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 4: think you know, we fans have to appreciate that that's

974
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: obviously what you're looking for.

975
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 5: You've been around this a long time. You know that's

976
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 5: what they're clamoring for.

977
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta wait. If you turn it once, the

978
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: fans get turned off and they start thinking about, well,

979
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 3: I almost spend my money somewhere else. That's bad for

980
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: the NBA. That's not good that that and sometimes those guys,

981
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 3: those fans don't return because they're really they don't know

982
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: that they can trust you. There's a trust issue there

983
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 3: with your with the teams and players, and that's the

984
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 3: worst thing you can have for a league. I mean,

985
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: they are other worst things, tanking, integrity, the FBI, you know,

986
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: betting scandals. But that is a really bad look for

987
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 3: a league if if the fans all of a sudden say, hey,

988
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 3: we don't know if these guys are going to play,

989
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 3: why should we invest a hard earned money on them?

990
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 5: Could you catch out my friend? Thanks, We'll be in

991
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 5: touch always.

992
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: Thanks, all right, Thanks Dan taking here.

993
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 4: You too, Mitch Lawrence. You can hear him on a

994
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 4: serious XMNBA. Basically, they're number one fill in guy on

995
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 4: a number of different shows cover the league for decades,

996
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 4: starting as a teammate of mine many many moons ago.

997
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 4: At the Dallas Morning News not related necessarily in that

998
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 4: case to Bermuda Shorts.

999
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Speaker 5: Top five, it will include what what do we have?

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