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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from wo R.

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Speaker 2: Back now to the wo R Saturday Morning Show with

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Speaker 2: Larry Minty. All right, let's get right to film journalist

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Speaker 2: and wo R Movie Minute host Joe Neumeyer, who is packing.

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Speaker 2: He's off to a film festival.

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Speaker 1: Where are you going, hey, Larry, Yeah, Happy Saturday. I

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Speaker 1: Am about to head to Iceland for this great, great

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Speaker 1: film festival called Stockfish. What a great name, right stock

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Speaker 1: Here we have the Tribeca Film Festival, but an Iceland

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Speaker 1: it's Stockfish. So my second time there, it's really a

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Speaker 1: fantastic film festival. Since I'm all caught up on what's

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Speaker 1: coming to multiplexes here, I'm going to this terriffic fest

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Speaker 1: and see what's happening in the movie scene near the

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Speaker 1: top of the world, and the people are great, cinema

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Speaker 1: scene is great, so I'm excited to go. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All I've ever heard about Iceland is gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: It's gorgeous. It's absolutely gorgeous. It's really you know, it's

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Speaker 1: like another world, which is like, I mean, it almost

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Speaker 1: feels like you're on a movie set or something. It

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Speaker 1: almost feels like you're you're looking at it like is

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Speaker 1: that a greens green? No, No, it's Iceland and it's

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Speaker 1: a it's terrific, the people are great and the film

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Speaker 1: festival is terrific.

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Speaker 2: Ahead, but that go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, speaking about being on top

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Speaker 1: of the world. The movie this this week, fans of

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Speaker 1: Vince Vaughan are gonna feel like they're on top of

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Speaker 1: the world that they have Hulu and they watch this film.

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Speaker 1: It starts streaming this weekend. Called Mike and Nick and

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Speaker 1: Nick and Alice. The goofy title and a kind of

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Speaker 1: a goofy movie, but it's really kind of fun. Vince

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Speaker 1: Vaughn has got two roles in it. He plays a

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Speaker 1: present day gangster and then the same character from six

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Speaker 1: months in the future. So when this gangster named Nick

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Speaker 1: who finds a time machine, of course, because that's sometimes

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Speaker 1: what happens, uh, he goes back in time to save

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Speaker 1: his friend Mike from getting whacked, and it's sort of

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Speaker 1: like Groundhog Day with an action angle. But it's kind

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Speaker 1: of funny too. Have you seen any trailers for it

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Speaker 1: or anything that's not not one?

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Speaker 2: Nope, not at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's the it's I I think it's really

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Speaker 1: enjoyable and I think it's I'm giving it three stars. Larry,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a you know, it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: maginative and fun. It's also a little like Palm Spring,

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Speaker 1: this movie from a couple of years ago, and and

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's like I say, it's kind of

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Speaker 1: like groundhog Day. And and Vince Vaughan is you know,

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Speaker 1: good to have him back after a while. He kind

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Speaker 1: of wasn't getting jobs. He was, you know, in the

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Speaker 1: nineties with movies like Swingers, and then he you know,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately did Psycho, but he was a wedding crashers. He's

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Speaker 1: always been fun, but he was kind of gone for

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Speaker 1: a while. But he's back here playing two roles. And

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Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me that there's, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: this sort of a thing now with technology, it's so

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Speaker 1: easy to make actors play two roles in a movie, right.

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Speaker 1: Sinners last year had Michael B. Jordan, who just got

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Speaker 1: Best Actor. He was in two roles. Robert de Niro

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Speaker 1: played two gangsters in Alto Nights last year. You know,

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Speaker 1: so it's like it's very easy to just press a

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Speaker 1: to do like you know, one actor is is obviously

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Speaker 1: a stunt double. And then the other one is Betty

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Speaker 1: Davis or something, or Peter Sellers.

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Speaker 2: We had a couple. We had a couple high profile

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Speaker 2: Hollywood deaths this week, and let's take each one so

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Speaker 2: you can talk a little bit about them. How about

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Speaker 2: Chuck Norris.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's interesting because Chuck Norris, of course,

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Speaker 1: you know, he was on Walker Texas Ranger. But before that,

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Speaker 1: you know, he really set himself apart in the late

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Speaker 1: seventies and eighties as a martial arts action hero. You know,

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Speaker 1: his first big break was working with Bruce Lee in

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Speaker 1: Lee's final completed film, Way of the Dragon in nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy two. And when I worked in a video store

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Speaker 1: Larry in the eighties, movies like The Octagon and An

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Speaker 1: Eye for an Eye, Good Guys were black. Those were

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Speaker 1: always popular renters. But he also did some bigger canvas

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Speaker 1: films too that I always thought were kind of fun,

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Speaker 1: like the Missing in Action films and Invasion USA and

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Speaker 1: The Delta Forhores, which is this really fun movie that

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Speaker 1: he did with with Lee Marvin. And there's a really

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Speaker 1: a good top actioner action movie called Code of Silence

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Speaker 1: that even Ciskel and Ebert gave thumbs up to. And

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Speaker 1: so obviously once the nineties came around and he was

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Speaker 1: on Walker, Texas Ranger, like he was obviously in homes

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Speaker 1: every week, but those movies in the eighties he kind

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Speaker 1: of set him apart from the guys like Schwarzenegger and

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Speaker 1: Stallone and later on Bruce Willis because he had he

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Speaker 1: had martial arts stuff going on, but he was also

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Speaker 1: sort of like he kind of had an everyman quality

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Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, he was really an

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Speaker 1: integral part of that stuff he had. Then of course

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Speaker 1: with a bunch of those guys in The Expendables too,

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Speaker 1: which is also fun. Those movies are fun. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a Los Sir Chuck Norris.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's also a Valerie Parene. And you know what,

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Speaker 2: I always thought, I liked her a lot, and I

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Speaker 2: always thought she was underrated as an actress.

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Speaker 1: Totally agree. You know, she was sort of known for

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Speaker 1: being obviously very sexy in the nineteen seventies, but she

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Speaker 1: also had an Oscar nomination for playing Lenny Bruce's wife

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Speaker 1: in the Hoff and drama Lenny that Bob Fosse directed,

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Speaker 1: and she did a few other things Slaughterhouse Fog. But

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Speaker 1: you know anyone who was twelve as I was when

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Speaker 1: that first Superman movie came out in nineteen seventy eight,

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Speaker 1: the Christopher Reeve one remember her as miss Kesmacker, right,

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Speaker 1: she was Lex Loosers hench woman. She's also in Superman too.

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Speaker 1: But she was really funny and sexy and she could

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Speaker 1: Gene Hackman. And she also co starred with Jack Nicholson

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Speaker 1: in a movie called The Border from nineteen eighty two,

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Speaker 1: So she was really like she kind of was underappreciated

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Speaker 1: also that era for actresses, like they kind of, you know,

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Speaker 1: wasn't sure what to do with Valerie Prymee because she

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Speaker 1: was she was not she was not the average sex symbol,

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Speaker 1: but she was also she wasn't given enough good stuff,

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Speaker 1: but she could be really good, and her career faltered

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Speaker 1: in the eighties, but like Norris, she has a really

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Speaker 1: special spot I think in movie history. And uh, and

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Speaker 1: she was great in Superman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. Everybody remembers Superman. Everybody remembers that

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Speaker 2: she is the heroine that saved Superman's life. He was

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Speaker 2: going to die, do you remember with the kryptonite tied

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Speaker 2: her and saying help me, and then she did. It

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Speaker 2: was everybody's gonna remember her and everything go ahead. Every

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Speaker 2: the headline I've seen has been Superman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And you know what's funny because that role

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Speaker 1: has been kind of recreated on the subsequent Superman movies.

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Speaker 1: Parker Posey did it in the in the two thousand

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Speaker 1: and six movie, but they can't ever really kind of

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Speaker 1: capture it right. A couple of weeks ago, actually, as

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Speaker 1: it happens, I happened to see Superman at the United

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Speaker 1: and they show great old movies there on the big screen,

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Speaker 1: and they showed that for a Superman movie from seventy eight,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the audience was applauding for everything. Applauding

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Speaker 1: Gene Hackman. But when Parin was on and she's so

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Speaker 1: funny in certain scenes, and when she dives in to

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Speaker 1: go the save Superman. She really was great, And I

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Speaker 1: think that that's the kind of thing that when you

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Speaker 1: think about other actresses, even from the seventies, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure a lot of actresses could have done that and

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Speaker 1: still held their dignity. She's funny, and she's smart, and

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Speaker 1: she's smarter than Left Luthori's the other the other kick, right,

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Speaker 1: Gene Hackman is talking to her, and she's throunded by idiots,

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Speaker 1: and she plays it like that.

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Speaker 2: So is it Valerie Parne? You said, Perne, I had

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Speaker 2: heard it on because I had heard on CNN. I

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Speaker 2: heard Parene on CNN. But I'm gonna go with you.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to trust CNN. I don't know why

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Speaker 2: I did in the first place.

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Speaker 1: I always heard Pridy. When you're twelve and you're watching Superman.

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Speaker 1: You're like, who's that Valerie Pryne. Oh yeah, fairly Prine.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I always heard Peryane w O our movie

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