WEBVTT - 1-2-26 Mike Allen in for Scott Sloan 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:05.520 Do you want to be an American idiot? News Radio 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:11.680 seven hundred WLW Mike Allen in for Slowly Today. Well, 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.800 I'll tell you what. I really was hoping that I 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:18.320 wouldn't have to be talking about something like this this morning. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:21.279 But I think it's appropriate that we do. Some of 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:26.040 you may know already we had an eleven year old girl, 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:33.200 little girl shot and killed in a West End playground yesterday. 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:39.159 She becomes the second child, because that's what she is 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:43.120 at eleven years old, a child. She becomes the second 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:47.440 child shot apparently very very close to the same place 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:52.520 West End playground as a young boy, eleven year old 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:57.480 Dominic Davis. I think that was a couple of years ago, 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:03.840 and apparently that is unst you know, back in the day. 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.200 I mean, you just you didn't see this. Yes he 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.120 saw shootings, Yes you saw killings, but you sure didn't 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:17.360 see eleven year olds being killed. You just didn't. I 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.000 don't know what the situation is with the police yet. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.640 I don't think they've released too much. And before you 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.960 start getting all honked off about that, there are reasons 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.080 for that. The investigation is ongoing. 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:29.959 You know. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.800 We live in a world now where I think people 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:38.640 expect instant everything. You know, if a crime isn't solved 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.880 within the first couple of days, then it's like, what's 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.480 taken them so long? What's taken them so long? But 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.440 they have not that I know of, issued a statement 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.440 about this yet. Wanted to let you know too. At 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.520 ten o'clock, we will be talking to former Vice mayor 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.120 and former chair of the Law and Public Safety Committee, 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:03.360 Christopher Smitheman. And I just connected with Corey Bowman, former 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:09.240 mayor candidate and current pastor of The River Church, and 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:14.600 Corey put out a statement on x just a heart 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.640 rendering statement. It's personal to Corey. It would appear because 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:23.920 the family of this young girl that was shot and 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:28.560 killed is a congregant of Corey Bowman's church. So we're 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.080 going to be talking to Corey about that. You know, 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.840 what he may know about this little girl, her name 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:41.000 was Queener Reid. Just how the neighborhood's feeling down there. 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:45.600 I mean, I guess that's kind of obvious, but I've 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:49.480 been in this system fifty one years, fifty one long 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:55.760 years in any number of positions, and there's just so 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.320 much changing in the world, not changing for the better. 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:04.639 You just didn't hear that. You didn't hear about ten 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:09.000 eleven twelve year olds being killed it It didn't well, 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:14.400 it did happen back then, but extremely rarely now quite 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:18.120 a bit now. I haven't looked at the statistics lately, 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:22.080 but some people are saying that crime is down, violent 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:25.760 crime in the city of Cincinnati. But you know, go 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.960 tell that to Queen of Reed's family. Go tell that 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.120 to the young man a couple of years ago that 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.760 was shot and killed pretty close to the same place, 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:42.280 as I understand it. So we will be talking to 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:48.800 those two, Christopher Smitheman and Corey at Christopher at ten o'clock, 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:54.600 Corey at ten thirty about this just tragic. There is 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:58.160 some insinuation and I'm going to ask Corey Bowman about 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:03.120 this that the family when they responded to Children's Hospital, 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:09.960 apparently they say that they weren't treated very what's the 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:14.000 word respectfully? I guess now that would surprise me. Children's 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:17.479 Hospital has an excellent reputation, and you know, people in 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:21.240 those situations are trained to kind of understand trauma and 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.360 what a family's going through. But we'll talk to Corey 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:28.080 about that too. And you know what the situation with 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:32.000 crime in the city of Cincinnati. Perhaps it's getting a 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:36.839 little better, but in some areas it's not. I mean 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.560 the West End over the Rhine, it's just hard to 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.120 believe that it's any better down there. And you know, 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.279 from an economic standpoint, we've talked about this a number 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.920 of times. Over the Rhine. My goodness, it's a jewel 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.360 for this city. People don't realize that there aren't any 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:57.599 other cities that have what we have there in our 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:01.520 downtown in particular. But this stuff keeps on happening. And 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.440 this was not otr This is a West End playground 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.800 that Golden Goose is just gonna leave. I mean, they're 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:13.200 not going to be laying any more golden eggs. It's 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.920 something that the city has to get under control. And 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:22.520 I don't want to politicize this tragedy. However, we don't 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.640 have a police chief. Now, we do have an interim 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.520 chief who is I understand it's doing a very good job, 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:30.560 but we don't have an official I guess, for lack 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.040 of a better word, police chief, and they're trying to 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.920 find a reason to fire her, and they hired a 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:41.279 law firm to do that. They extended the contract. I 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:44.800 think into February. It's Frost Brown Todd, which is a 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:49.000 great law firm. No thought at all that they're doing 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.279 anything untoward. But I mean, if you got to go 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:56.360 looking for reasons, if you have to hire a law 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.560 firm to try to figure out, well, what are we 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:01.880 going to have hang our hat on when we fire 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:06.640 this police chief? What are we doing? What are we doing? 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.200 I mean the city already got rang up or they're 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:13.039 gonna get wrung up on what they did and how 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:17.479 they did the fire chief. I don't know. Something has 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:21.080 to change in this city. I guarantee you too. Probably 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.400 before the day is out, if it hasn't happened already, 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.719 we'll have someone on city council or some politicians somewhere 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:33.880 whining and wailing about the availability of guns. And yes, 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:38.200 you have to keep guns out of the hands of kids, 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.560 you have to, But it is not the gun that 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.120 killed little Queen A Reid. It's the person that was 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:51.400 behind it. And again, as I understand it very early on, 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:56.760 it appears that it probably was an errant shot and 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:01.359 not intended for this beautiful, a left year old girl. 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:05.680 But you know, and do we need a sensible gun 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:10.040 control of course we do, and no conservative Republican whoever 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.720 is going to say that we don't. But you have 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:18.160 to look deeper than the instrument that was used to 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.400 do the killing. You have to look at the person 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.440 that did the killing. I don't know why people can't 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:29.880 seem to understand that. Well, anyway, let's do this. Let's 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:33.280 take a short break and come back and from nine, 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:40.720 from nine thirty two ten o'clock, we'll be available for calls. 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.360 And you know, if you want to talk about this 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:49.720 horrible subject, we will do that and we'll be back. Okay, 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:54.240 I guess we can't break right now. Why why I 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:59.400 don't know, but oh I'm sorry. Yeah, the computer's locked up. 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.760 Thank you. Okay, now we're good. We'll be back in 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:06.000 a bit. Mike Allen in for Sloaney, seven hundred WLW. 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:15.640 They we're back. Mike Allen in for Sloney. As I 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:19.440 have been all week talking about the breaking story, the 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:23.280 tragedy of an eleven year old girl, girl by the 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.720 name of Queener Reid. I hope I'm pronouncing that right. 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:32.240 She died at children's hospital yesterday from gunshot wounds she 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:38.760 sustained for doing what children do, being in a playground 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.320 and on a playground, it just you can't. You can't 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:46.920 write a worse script than this. Fox nineteen as usual 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.240 is all over this. It seems like they're well, they're 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:54.680 all covering it, but they usually get stuffed first. Oh 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:59.199 their story reads. The eleven year old girl eleven year 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.120 old who died following a shooting near West End playground 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.960 on New Year's Day has been identified Queen of Reid. 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:10.239 She's eleven, as I said, died at Cincinnati Children's on Thursday. 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:14.640 According to Cincinnati Police. They say the shooting that killed 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.880 her happened near the Laurel Playground at the corner of 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:26.040 West Liberty and John Street down in the West End District. 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.960 One officers were flagged down and told that somewhat had 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:35.760 been shot. Cincinnati Police Lieutenant Jerome Herrings said police later 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:41.800 found Read suffering from a gunshot wound. Medics transported her 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.920 to Children's Hospital, where she died from her injuries. It 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.680 is unknown what led to the shooting. You know, I mean, 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:54.040 my guess is, but you don't know, probably probably an 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:59.800 unintended shot, if you will, that she was not the 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.400 tended victim, or at least you would hope so but 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:06.000 there again, what difference does that make to her family 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:12.400 and loved ones. Let's see what else I think that's about. Factually, 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.880 they've got a little bit more here. Hang on a second, 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.880 I think there's a little bit more here. Yeah. Former 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:29.120 Cincinnati mayoral candidate Corey Bowman, and again he will be 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:34.920 with us here at ten thirty for Vice Mayor and 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.920 Chair of the Law and Public Safety Committee, Christopher Smithman 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:42.120 will be with us at ten o'clock. The Channel nineteen 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:46.280 story goes on. Cincinnati mayoral candidate Corey Bowman is the 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.440 pastor of the church where some of the seven excuse me, 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:53.800 some of the eleven year old's family members attend. He 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.400 shared that he received the news of Reed's death when 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:01.760 he got a call from her grandmother. And Corey has 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:07.400 an extended statement on X and he makes very clear 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.400 and when I talk to him, you know, I'm going 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:14.000 to make sure that people know he's not talking about 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.760 this as a politician. He's not talking about this as 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:22.200 a candidate. He's talking about this as a pastor. He's 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.479 the pastor of the River Church down there, which apparently 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.800 was like right in the neighborhood, are very very close 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.120 to where this thing happened, so again we'll be talking 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:36.120 to him to get his perspective on it. The story 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.480 goes on this as yet another shooting to add to 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.480 the list of tragedies families in the West End have 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:45.440 experienced over the years. Then they talk about this eleven 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:49.080 year old boy back in November at twenty twenty three 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:53.560 that I had mentioned Dominic Davis along with four children 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:57.800 and an adult. They were shot near Laurel Playground. But 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.120 I think the slaying of Dominic, although I'm not one 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:05.040 hundred percent certain that was a standalone thing and not 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:09.679 linked to the four other children in an adult. But 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:13.320 I'm not one hundred percent sure about that. We'll just 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:18.079 have to see more than twenty rounds. More than twenty 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.160 rounds were fired toward the group of victims at the 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:25.720 intersection of Jones Street and Wade Street. Davis was dead 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.840 at the scene. Again, that's going back to this Dominic 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:33.720 Davis case. Twenty rounds. Police have not said anything about 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:37.120 a possible suspect yet in that shooting. You can rest 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:42.160 assured though, that the Cincinnati Police Department is looking for 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:46.000 the suspect in that shooting. And you know when it's 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:50.080 a child like that. I was never a homicide investigator, 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.800 but I have to think that when as a child 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.640 like that, you're going to work even harder than you 0:12:55.760 --> 0:13:01.040 normally do. So we will see what happens. Again, it's 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.480 a breaking story and we will keep on top of it. 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:11.040 Keeping with the criminal justice theme, I suppose we found 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:14.160 out yesterday and boy, this is really going to shock you. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.360 One of the suspects in the Downtown what I call 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:23.280 the Downtown beat down, is in custody again for violating 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:28.359 the conditions of her bond. You may recall that situation 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:32.720 over the summer. It got national and frankly international. The 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:38.120 BBC was covering it international coverage when just things got 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:42.000 completely out of hand down there and people were beaten, 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.720 beaten within an inch of their life. Well again, this 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:51.080 is Fox nineteen reporting this. Aishia Devan. She's twenty six. 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.360 You may remember she was one of the ones that 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:58.760 was a suspect and ultimately charged in that situation. She 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.320 is being held and jail without bond. Now without bond 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.800 after she violated the terms of her bond. Court documents say, 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:11.280 I got on the Clock's website this morning and pulled 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:16.480 the documents off. What happened. Apparently, according to this KPIST warrant, 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.600 she failed to follow the conditions of her electronic monitoring 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:25.640 unit on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, and December twenty sixth, 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:30.320 when she was found outside of her home during unapproved times. 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.680 Let me just read it to you here. This is 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:37.760 the allegation from the Probation Department. Probation, they take care 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:42.280 of it and they administer the program with respect to 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.880 the situation when they have to wear the wrisk or 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:51.480 the ankle bracelet electronic monitoring. Okay. The accusation is that 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:55.440 mister Bond did fail to follow the terms and conditions 0:14:55.520 --> 0:15:00.400 of EMU electronic monitoring unit. On twelve twenty four five 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:05.400 twenty six the defendant was outside her residence at unapproved times. 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.600 On twelve twenty four to twenty five, the defendant was 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:13.280 located out of state in Kentucky at a liquor store. 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.760 All attempts to get the defendant to return to her 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:20.760 listed address during these times, and I presume they're talking 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:24.960 about all three or the three of these dates, all 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.560 attempts to get her to return to her listed address 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:33.040 during these times were unsuccessful. When you're placed on electronic 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:37.320 monitoring in lieu of being locked up on a cash bond. 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:41.040 The probation apartment and it was run by the Sheriff's 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:45.240 office before that. They're pretty strict because they have to be. 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.040 You know, they have limited hours that they can be 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.800 out most of the time. Depending upon the individual and 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.160 depending upon the crime charged, they'll get a little slack, 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.560 a little leeway to, you know, go to the grocery store, 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:02.440 go to medical appointments. They have to, but they monitor 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.520 those things closely, and if you go out of where 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:09.240 you are supposed to be, they know, and they're on it. 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.200 They're on it. We used to have, and I believe 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:16.680 the common police judges and their infinite wisdom voted to 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:21.440 get rid of this. We had probation neighborhood probation offices 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.400 within some of the communities. I think there were four 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.000 of them that they had in the city of Cincinnati. 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.360 If I'm not mistaken that you know, assisted and went 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.360 out and checked up on these people. I think that 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.320 they are gone now, so you know, that would have 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.920 been something that probably would have helped in this case. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:43.560 But at any rate, electronic monitoring is it's not a right, Frankly, 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:47.400 it's a privilege, and you know, you're not down at 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.400 the Justice Center. You're not getting your three hots and 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:55.160 a cot down there, which isn't very pleasant, but you're 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.800 at home. But she gotta do what you are told, 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:03.560 and that is to not go where the judge, the court, 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.960 the probation officer tell you you can't go. At the 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.119 end of the day, it's up to the judge, and 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:14.480 the judge dictates the terms. But apparently this individual, miss 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.159 Devong said, out of hell with it, I'm going to 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:21.160 the liquor store over in Kentucky. And she's paying the consequences. 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.120 Now she's sitting over in the JC, the Justice Center, 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.879 with no bond. So we shall see what happens with 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.919 that that case. I don't know the exact date, but 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:35.200 that's going to come to some kind of conclusion, hopefully 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.800 early this year. I don't know if there is a 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:41.600 trial date yet. I think there is. But again no 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:46.560 big surprise there. A prime suspect person charged in the 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:51.720 downtown beat down, gets a break, gets home incarceration, but 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:56.000 decides that hey, I ain't following the rules. I want 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.280 to go get me some liquor over in Kentucky. So 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.600 for her troubles. She's locked up now. I don't know 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:05.760 who the judge is on this case. I would think 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:09.520 that if I were the judge on it, there'd be 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:13.919 no consideration of any other bond now because the person 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:18.400 has proven that she cannot abide by the terms that 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:23.679 the judge and the probation department sets. So therefore, you know, 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.040 you're just going to have to sit at the Justice 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:32.960 Center until the case is resolved. But again, different things 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:37.040 are happening these days with respect to those issues in 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.920 Hamilton County. I mean, that's all I'm going to say 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:44.159 on that. So we'll be talking about this and of 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:48.720 course the tragic shooting of an eleven year old girl 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.919 in the West End yesterday throughout the show. But we 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:53.880 do have some other things that we want to talk 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.400 about too, So we are going to take a break 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.520 and when we get back, i'd love to hear from 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.080 all of you. Think seven four, nine, seven, one, eight 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.720 hundred the big one are the numbers. Give us a 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.840 call to join in. Mike Allen in for Slowey, seven 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:16.399 hundred WLW. It's nine thirty six News Radio, seven hundred WLW. 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.880 Mike Allen in for Slowney. We have on the line, 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:23.399 the great American Willie Cunningham. Bill wants to weigh in 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.720 on this thing, and I'm glad that he is. Bill. 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:28.600 Are you there? I think I am. Mike Allen, how 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.480 are you? I'm not too good, Bill. I was fine 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:33.760 when I woke up, but as soon as I heard 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.240 about this, it just kind of changed the mood. I mean, 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:38.920 you've been around a long time, Bill, you have been 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:42.800 a member of the system for a long time. I mean, 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.919 what is it now with eleven year olds being shot? 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:50.840 I mean, in my wildest dreams, I never of course, 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.600 you have the rare case. But my goodness, this is 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.639 like the third one I think in two years, or 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:59.840 second one in two years. What the hell's going on? 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:02.439 You know, Mike, I think of what's at play? We 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.959 have to assume the eleven year old wasn't targeted. I 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:08.280 have to assume that's the case. And that was simply 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.879 one of the twenty thousand bullets that we know about 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.600 that fly around about seven or eight zip codes in 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:19.119 the city of Cincinnati. And when I read other publications, 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:22.240 I look at other cities. Cincinnati is now up there 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.560 with Saint Louis in Memphis and Chicago, which is a 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.760 regular event to have children simply in the way of 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.560 the gang bangers. And there's a sense, and you know this, 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:35.400 that juvenile court is now back to being kitty court again, 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.160 in which you have I guarantee you if and when 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:42.040 the perpetrators are located, they have lengthy previous criminal records. 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.960 They were given opportunity, effort after opportunity failed to take it. 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:49.160 And it's a cultural thing that happens in certain parts 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.680 of our city that does not happen in certain other 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:54.760 parts of our city because they're fatherless homes, because the 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:58.760 acceptance of crime, because of the ideas much like those 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.040 who are stealing all these cars. It's a way of 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:05.280 getting guns and getting notoriety and being somebody no education, 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:07.800 no fathers in the home, and you can have all 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:12.760 the programs you want. But part of the unintended consequences 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:16.080 of the cultural collapse in many American cities is the 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.120 fact that children will be in the way of bullets. 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.280 And this is going to continue in the year twenty 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:25.159 twenty six until I guess it's unacceptable to have guns. 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:28.520 It's unacceptable not to marry the mother of your kids, 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:32.200 is unacceptable not to get an education. When I spoke 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:35.120 a couple of days ago with some CPS teachers who 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.960 told me it's utter chaos and many of the schools, 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:41.440 all it is is a daycare service in which many 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:45.760 of these young men, especially get notoriety because of the 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.399 criminal lifestyle, not because they have good grades, and not 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:51.920 because their attendance is up to snuff. I mean, seventy 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:55.000 five percent of black boys are absent from school. They're 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.199 chronically absent. And we can have all the Damon Lynches 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:00.520 and all the others who running around town talking about 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:02.919 what has to be done, but until the hearts and 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.199 minds of individuals change, nothing's going to change. And we 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:08.359 have to deal with the consequences. And Mike, you and 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:10.320 I came up in a system where if you engage 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.960 in these forms of behavior, you went to prison. A 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:16.440 remember Judge Grossman who was a juvenile course, Purgeendary and 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.080 Judge Powers, they would send you up the river. But 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:23.600 today it does not happen. You're giving chance after chance 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.800 after chance after chance. And that's the blood is on 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:29.600 the hands of all kinds of individuals. And I want 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:31.400 to I don't want to dump on Damon Lynch. He's 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:35.240 well intended. He's simply wrong and having the recipe of 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:38.080 the difficulties that we have. And Mike is not going 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:41.159 to change until the culture changes. And you tell me 0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:42.040 when that happens. 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:45.399 Yeah, well, I'll tell you what the last sentence that 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:47.480 you said hit the nail. Rop it all did, but 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:51.800 especially that, who knows when it's going to change. And 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:54.879 I don't want to politicize it because it's not political, 0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:57.480 but I guess in some ways it is. But when 0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:01.600 you have a city council that's all one party and 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:06.160 not even close to having any other representation, I mean, 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.479 you're not going to get a point of view that 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:12.560 a conservative Republican would have. I think Bill, you and 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:15.800 I both will be long long gone before you ever 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.680 see a Republican as mayor or on council down there. 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:22.359 It's probably never going to happen. But again, it's not political, 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:25.600 but man, they got it. Start taking a look at 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:28.080 some other ways to go with this. Then we have 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:31.760 a police chief who buy all accounts, all fair accounts, 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:35.400 has done a very good job as chief, and they 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:37.399 want to get rid of her. And they hire a 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.159 law firm, a great law firm, Fross Brown Todd to 0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:43.240 find out a reason to do it. I guess they didn't, 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:47.000 and so they extended. It's just it's topsy turvy, and 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.960 I don't understand it. I don't think I'm the only one. 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.959 Well, you know, we always like it when lawyers make 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:54.920 a bunch of money. But the mayor and the city 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.159 manager want to find an excuse and a reason to 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:01.359 do what they did. There was no particular reason why 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:04.000 Chief Thiegi had to go other than she had to 0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:07.399 be a scapegoat and she was convenient, convenient, foible, And 0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:10.359 now they're looking for a reason for what they did, 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:13.200 and there was no adequate reason to let her go. 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:16.119 She knew, she knew the CPD up and down. But 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.560 Adam Henny the rank and file. When I talked to 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:21.680 rank and file, and you've been a Cincinnati cop that 0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:23.160 they like Adam Henny a lot. 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:25.760 But I'm hearing it in Frost Todd. 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:28.360 I mean, it was those be forty thousand, now it's 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:30.600 going to be sixty thousand, and they keep looking for 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.920 a reason. I assume there was no reason. So they 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:36.000 need another twenty thousand dollars to find a reason. And 0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:38.320 that doesn't send the message to the rank and file 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:42.840 up and down the lineup that that those in charge 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:46.280 know what they're doing. But it's said that this young girl, 0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.480 I assumed she was in the fifth or sixth grade. 0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:52.119 Her name is Keener Ray Reid, who died yesterday, A 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:55.040 found shot at Laurel Playground about six pm on New 0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.160 Year's Day. What a way to begin. And I would 0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:59.760 assume the family is devastated. I would assume they'll be 0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:03.240 made ship memorials. I will assume there'll be balloons released 0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:05.840 at some point as the way the family is dealing 0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:08.560 with the incredible grief of having their eleven year old 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:12.720 daughter murdered on a playground. Because it is dangerous, and 0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:14.520 I know a city doesn't want to hear this, but 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.720 OTR Mike, I saw the other day there's there's a 0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:22.800 row house on thirteenth in Vine going up for two 0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:23.720