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Speaker 1: Last four games here for the Kraken, Let's just say

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Speaker 3: Why do you think those mistakes have happened?

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Speaker 3: You know, this was a very promise start to the season.

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Speaker 7: You can understand Lane Lambert's frustration because you know, on

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Speaker 7: We've seen the system work, you know. I you don't

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Speaker 7: This isn't anything that hasn't been said before. This team

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Speaker 7: They're getting beat to easy puck battles and corners, they're

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Speaker 3: Now it's losing games.

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Speaker 7: The Kraken peaked this year at fifth overall in goals

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Speaker 7: Game sixty five, Game seventy mattered. I mean, the kra

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Speaker 3: In a playoff spot.

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Speaker 7: that ending wasn't good, but man, considering where this team was,

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Speaker 7: it felt good to be playing meaningful games.

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Speaker 8: I think from an emotional standpoint it means more. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Be uh, that's gonna be pushed around, that's going to

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Speaker 4: Part of the changing go ahead everyett Sorry bout that

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Speaker 7: No, I was gonna say, I think Al's spot on,

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Speaker 7: This is an audition for other teams for potential trade

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Speaker 1: And didn't Lane Lambert bring up the word professionalism earlier

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Speaker 7: He did, right, the three of us, everybody up here

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Speaker 3: Clearly they do, otherwise they won't be here.

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Speaker 7: But they need to show that, you know what, just

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Speaker 3: I'm with al.

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Speaker 7: If you go zero to five, but you're losing these

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Speaker 7: The personnel largely hasn't changed. You brought in Bobby McMahon.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So I think individually this means about as much.

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Speaker 1: Philip Grubauer left the Winnipeg game lower body injury, and

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it would be nice to get Grubauer,

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Speaker 7: I'm with you, partner. I mean, I think Mike Pete Muldoon,

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Speaker 7: How many of these goals do you think cracking. Goaltending

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Speaker 8: And the third thing is you've got to be I

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Speaker 8: think Fits used the word determined. You've got to be

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Speaker 8: determined to kill off this two minutes and do whatever

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Speaker 8: it takes to do it. And you know, when you

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Speaker 8: do get control of the puck in your own end,

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Speaker 8: uh know where their opening is. To get the puck

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Speaker 8: down the ice, make a good change recognizing the second period,

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Speaker 8: and penalty killing's a little harder because of that long

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Speaker 8: change in the first period, So you've got to be

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Speaker 8: sure it gets all the way down. It can't just

446
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Speaker 8: get to their blue line because they're going to catch

447
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Speaker 8: you on a change. All these things go into good

448
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Speaker 8: penalty killers, and honestly, it doesn't. It doesn't get all

449
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Speaker 8: the limelight, doesn't get all the highlights, doesn't get all

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Speaker 8: the glory. But you got eight guys that can kill

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Speaker 8: penalties off. You know it fits you. And I talk

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Speaker 8: about this a lot. What would you rather have a

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Speaker 8: good penalty killer or a good power play? And lots

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Speaker 8: of times the answer is a penalty kill.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would take I would take a good I

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Speaker 7: take a top five PK and a bottom five power

457
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Speaker 7: play over the reverse any day of the week, because

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Speaker 7: I feel like, especially in playoff time, when you're only

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Speaker 7: getting two max three power plays a game. In a

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Speaker 7: playoff game, you kill off three of those pks and

461
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Speaker 7: and you know, especially if you're on the road, I mean,

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Speaker 7: you're you're shutting that entire crowd down. And I think

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Speaker 7: the momentum change of being able to have four guys

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Speaker 7: shut down five mentally, that is a huge piece to

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Speaker 7: overcome subconsciously or not for the other team.

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Speaker 3: So but now I'm with you man.

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Speaker 7: Like the PK. I mean you mentioned Mike the numbers.

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Speaker 7: This team has given up seven to nine power They've

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Speaker 7: given up nine power play goals in their last seven games.

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Speaker 7: I mean that is just again, like everything else, it's inexcusable.

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Speaker 7: It's it's befunneling, it's baffling, it's mind bottling.

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Speaker 3: It's when everything that Lane Lambert has said.

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Speaker 7: And again, the PK this year was one of the

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Speaker 7: stronger areas until it was it. You know, the power

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Speaker 7: play was strong all year longer. The PK earlier than

476
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Speaker 7: you like, took that dip off the table. They've been

477
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Speaker 7: thirty first in the NHL for about six weeks straight

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Speaker 7: now in the PK, and that number just kept on falling.

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Speaker 7: But you know, I think you're right, it's a termination.

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Speaker 7: I think it's also just don't simplify, don't do too

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Speaker 7: much when you get the puck, dun, dumb and change right.

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Speaker 7: You know, I don't need short handed goals. I don't

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Speaker 7: need a power kill. I don't need that. I need

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Speaker 7: you to kill off the two minutes and get back

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Speaker 7: to work.

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Speaker 3: Five on five. That's what I need.

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Speaker 7: So don't you know, you get the puck, whip it

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Speaker 7: down the ice, lived to five another day.

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Speaker 1: Here's the impact of this, just for example, in the

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Speaker 1: recent stretch, Winnipeg three of three and the power play

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Speaker 1: on Monday night, crack And lost that game six to two.

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Speaker 1: The cracking kept Winnipeg off the board five on five

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Speaker 1: until period three when Brad Lambert scored against you the

494
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Speaker 1: manmock went three of six. Crack And lost that game

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Speaker 1: against Buffalo, cracking allowing a power play goal on three chances.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo came right back won that game as well. We

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Speaker 1: go back here to the Nashville game at Nashville to

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Speaker 1: begin that six game road trip. Nashville went one of

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Speaker 1: three on the power play, and what could have been

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Speaker 1: a very very close game, crack And fell in that contest,

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Speaker 1: and so forth and so on.

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Speaker 4: So it certainly makes a big impact, all right.

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Speaker 1: Once again, a lot to get to here, as Ron

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Speaker 1: Francis stepping down from the Crack and end of the season,

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Speaker 1: plus more conversation from the last week as well, potentially

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Speaker 1: for the future directions of Krack and want to Go,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna cover more of this with ja Con

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Speaker 1: right around the corner. Pull questions up right now a

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Speaker 1: Crack and audio net, go and vote. We'll cover more

510
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Speaker 1: of this in a bit as far as what young

511
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Speaker 1: player you want to see with the hot hand by

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Speaker 1: the end of the regular season. Jay CON's next right

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Speaker 1: here on Cracking Weekly on ninety three to three KJERFM.

514
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Speaker 1: Firebirds are back into a playoffs spot. The X is

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Speaker 1: officially at their name, and it looks like it's going

516
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Speaker 1: to be an opener for them in round number one.

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Speaker 1: The only question is who will they face again. Mike

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Speaker 1: Benton with you back here on Cracking Weekly along with

519
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Speaker 1: Everett and now they're going to take a bit of

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00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: a break. Jake Con joining us right around the corner.

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Speaker 1: The Firebirds, though locked in right now, it appears no

522
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Speaker 1: higher than third place, although beyond that plenty of doubt.

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Speaker 1: San Jose comes in today one point back of them.

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Speaker 1: Coachella Valley at thirty nine twenty two and five eighty

525
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Speaker 1: three points on the season. Up next today they take

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Speaker 1: on the Hendersons Silver Knights. Six games left on their

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Speaker 1: side and at the playoffs word to begin today, they

528
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Speaker 1: would open the first round against the Bakersfield Condors. So

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Speaker 1: a lot to look forward to. Logan Morrison right now

530
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Speaker 1: leads them fifty seven points in sixty four games. Jagger

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Speaker 1: Furkus two points back, fifty five points in sixty one games.

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Speaker 1: Tyson Jugnat the Monks the league leaders in defenseman for scoring. Oh,

533
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Speaker 1: by the way, he's also a rookie forty three points

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Speaker 1: in sixty six games as well. Nick A Koco, Victor

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Speaker 1: Ossman splitting plenty of time in Nasel. Before we get

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Speaker 1: to Jay con Fellas, give me one guy you're looking

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Speaker 1: forward to watching here for the Calder Cup playoff run.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I gotta go jug Nof.

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Speaker 8: I think that. You know, he's a guy that we

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Speaker 8: got to see in camp last year a little bit.

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Speaker 8: I was pretty excited about the way he played. I'm

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Speaker 8: looking forward to seeing him next year in camp and

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Speaker 8: some preseason games as well. But the way he's played

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Speaker 8: for the Firebirds this year, getting into the playoffs, he's

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Speaker 8: absolutely somebody I'd won on my blue line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, give me, gimme Fercus and Morrison.

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Speaker 7: I think those two guys, you know, you're looking at

548
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Speaker 7: potentially finding more offense, and those guys are doing it

549
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Speaker 7: down there in CV. They're you know, higher draft picks

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Speaker 7: in these first few years for Seattle, and you want

551
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Speaker 7: to see what you got from from your prospect pool.

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Speaker 7: So well they have, they have a good playoff and

553
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Speaker 7: then I think they're coming in here camp trying to

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Speaker 7: battle for a spot.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking at.

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Speaker 7: Those two to see how they handle the high pressure

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Speaker 7: situation of pro pro playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Logan Morrison right now in the top twenty four league

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Speaker 1: scoring again fifty seven points in sixty four games. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go Tyson Jugnath. Defensemen take longer to develop a marinate,

561
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Speaker 1: but my goodness for what he did in Portland. It

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Speaker 1: showed playing head and shoulders above the rest. He knows

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Speaker 1: how to play the puck with confidence, he knows how

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Speaker 1: to defend in the modern game. He turned plenty of

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Speaker 1: heads in preseason play and showing that he has adapted

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Speaker 1: very very quickly here to the pro game at the

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Speaker 1: American Hockey League level as of right now. Take notes,

568
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Speaker 1: Tyson Jugnath is seventh in AHL scoring among defensemen, leader

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Speaker 1: among all rookies on the blue line, by the way,

570
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Speaker 1: forty three points in sixty six games. I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a big piece of future. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to watching him all right. Moving on, joining us now

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Speaker 1: on Cracking Weekly, the world famous Jake con He is

574
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Speaker 1: the co host on The Points, heard Monday through Friday

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Speaker 1: from ten am Pacific to noon Pacific on Sirius XM

576
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: NHL Network Radio. He and Victoria Maddie Ash do a

577
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: great job on the air every day. First time, though,

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Speaker 1: I believe Jake joins our airwaves now on the Beacon

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Speaker 1: Plumbing Hotline for this Hello to you, thank you for

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Speaker 1: jumping on, and I first want to begin with a

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Speaker 1: nod to your late colleague and a dear friend of

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Speaker 1: many of us, Jim Boomer Gordon. You two taken over

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Speaker 1: for a guy who was near and dear to a

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Speaker 1: lot of us, and Boomer Gordon passing away tragically just

585
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Speaker 1: a while back here in this regular season, A lot

586
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Speaker 1: of us had a chance here to share what Boomer

587
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Speaker 1: meant to us. But he had this share for quite

588
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Speaker 1: a while. How much did Boomer influence many of you,

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Speaker 1: whether it would be professionally or personally.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's hard to put into words what he

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Speaker 9: meant to me, both as a co worker, as a

592
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Speaker 9: co host for so many years over a decade doing

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Speaker 9: shows with him, but also just as a friend. I

594
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Speaker 9: think that's really where I've missed him the most is

595
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Speaker 9: those texts about other sports.

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Speaker 6: Boomer was such an all sports guy.

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Speaker 9: Obviously, he loved hockey, was great at covering the game

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Speaker 9: of hockey, but he would text me about anything any

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Speaker 9: sport you could name. Golf was probably our favorite. That

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Speaker 9: was a big one for us on the weekend or

601
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Speaker 9: in any big golf tournament. Obviously with the Masters coming up,

602
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Speaker 9: this would be a big time for us doing our

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Speaker 9: Master's picks. And we always had his Jim Nance bit

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Speaker 9: to start the show. So so many things I'm going

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Speaker 9: to miss about the guy. And he really helped me

606
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Speaker 9: grow as a broadcaster. He gave me the chance, you know,

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Speaker 9: I started it out with just a small role on

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Speaker 9: the show, and then it grew and grew and really

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Speaker 9: being our show, and he treated it as such, and

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Speaker 9: he really made me feel like it was our.

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Speaker 6: Show over the years.

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Speaker 9: So man, I really miss him every day, you know,

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Speaker 9: a little things remind me of him. We had a

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Speaker 9: celebration for life for him about a week and a

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Speaker 9: half ago. Really nice to meet some of his family,

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Speaker 9: beautiful people, meeting some of his old college buddies and

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Speaker 9: things like that as well. So there's there's certainly a

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Speaker 9: hole to station Mike, and you know, hole in all

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Speaker 9: of our hearts missing Boom. It's been tough to roll on,

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Speaker 9: but you know, credit to everybody at the station, particularly

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Speaker 9: Victoria stepping in and not an easy spot. And I've

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Speaker 9: really enjoyed doing the show with her. And look, we're

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Speaker 9: doing our best to entertain and kind of keep the

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Speaker 9: ball moving forward. And Boomer would want us to keep

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Speaker 9: watching hockey, stop talking about him, and kind of move on.

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Speaker 6: That's that's how Boom was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Boomer, we're looking up at you. We miss you,

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Speaker 4: love you.

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Speaker 1: And one more question for you, eighteen holes for one

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Speaker 1: round at Augusta. What do you have gone with Tiger

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Speaker 1: Phil or someone else?

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Speaker 9: Oh, I think we're going Tiger. I think he's going

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Speaker 9: Tiger here. Boom was always a huge Tiger guy. I'm

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Speaker 9: a big Tiger guy as well. Unfortunate, what's sort of

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Speaker 9: happened really the weeks, and I was looking forward to

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Speaker 9: seeing him tee it up. I really thought he was

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Speaker 9: going to. I think if if this didn't happen, he

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Speaker 9: we probably would be watching him at least tee it

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Speaker 9: up and obviously not going to contend at this point.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, eighteen holes at Augusta. I think you gotta go, Tiger.

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Speaker 9: What a golf course.

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Speaker 6: I dream one day of being able to play it.

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Speaker 4: Mike, I don't know how I'm going to get myself in.

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Speaker 6: We'll see. We'll see.

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Speaker 9: Maybe me and you could play it together one time.

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Speaker 9: We'll figure that out later.

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Speaker 1: By hook or by crook, it's going down, and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to send a text here to the wife saying

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Speaker 1: something emergency. Why it's just popped up here, and we'll

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Speaker 1: take care of the rest. We kinda have to go

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Speaker 1: on the regular season. Tampa Bay and Buffalo are duking

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Speaker 1: it out in the Atlantic. Carolina's basically have the metro

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Speaker 1: all locked up. The Penguins are there. Then in the Central,

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Speaker 1: then Dallas and Minnesota, who are a duking this out

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Speaker 1: here for seeds two and three, And then as Conor

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Speaker 1: mc david said, ye, Pillow fights in the Pacific Division

657
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Speaker 1: at this point, what is your biggest surprise.

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Speaker 9: Well, I would say biggest surprise probably of the season

659
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Speaker 9: would be Buffalo and not only making the playoffs, but

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Speaker 9: where they are pushing Tampa for the top spot in

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Speaker 9: the Atlantic Division. If you would have told me the

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Speaker 9: Sabers would make the playoffs, I'd probably say, no, not happening.

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Speaker 9: I've tried, you know, I've gone down that road many

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Speaker 9: times and it never works out. But if you would

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Speaker 9: have told me they would win the Atlantic Division, which

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Speaker 9: they haven't yet, but they're right there fighting tooth and

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Speaker 9: nail down the stretch Withampa. Montreal is in that conversation

668
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Speaker 9: as well, I would probably call you crazy. So it's

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Speaker 9: been fun to watch this come together. Depending on home

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Speaker 9: ice advantage, Mike, I might have a little trip planned

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Speaker 9: to Buffalo. Buffalo's you know, very quick drive from where

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Speaker 9: I am to go to a game and obviously seeing

673
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Speaker 9: playoff hockey there for the first time in a long time,

674
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Speaker 9: that fan base is going to be rabid for some

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Speaker 9: playoff hockey.

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Speaker 6: So I'm hoping to catch a game in Buffalo.

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Speaker 9: And you know, I was breaking it down four games

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Speaker 9: left for Montreal, Buffalo and Tampa and the Atlantic Division

679
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Speaker 9: all tied with points. Now Montreal has less regulation wins,

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Speaker 9: the schedule still does favor Tampa just slightly. So I

681
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Speaker 9: still think they've got the inside track to that one seed,

682
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Speaker 9: but a couple of regulation losses here lately for the

683
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Speaker 9: lightning of open the door for Buffalo and heck, maybe

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Speaker 9: even Montreal to jump up there.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you saw the vibe around Key

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Speaker 1: Banks Center before last night's game against Tampa Bay. They

687
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Speaker 1: had a wagon that had a Buffalo logo outside. They

688
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Speaker 1: had visual signers that you can take for instagram saying

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Speaker 1: we're back. They had I mean something even installed in

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Speaker 1: your live size figure Brandon Hagel that fans could walk

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Speaker 1: up and punch. And this is all before the game,

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Speaker 1: so needless just say the vibes are certainly back in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Are you buying ors selling the Sabers as the Eastern

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Speaker 1: Conference champion?

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Speaker 9: I think I'm selling overall because if I'm picking an

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Speaker 9: Eastern Conference champion, I can only pick one here. I

697
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Speaker 9: can't pick three or four and kind of go that way.

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Speaker 9: So I got to narrow it down to see them

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Speaker 9: making the Cup final.

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Speaker 6: I just it's difficult.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot of players on that roster that haven't

702
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Speaker 9: played playoff hockey before. I do think it's a bit

703
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Speaker 9: of a different animal, and when I'm looking at the

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Speaker 9: teams they're gonna have to go through, Tampa's got a

705
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Speaker 9: lot of veterans on that roster.

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Speaker 6: I know they've.

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Speaker 9: Struggled in the playoffs recently, but I think it'll be

708
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Speaker 9: a little bit different this year. With Florida out of

709
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Speaker 9: the equation, Tampapa kind of feels like the team to

710
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Speaker 9: beat on that side, and Montreal they just have playoff magic.

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Speaker 9: Whether they're a good team or not a good team,

712
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Speaker 9: they feel like they get more out of their roster,

713
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Speaker 9: and I would say this year they are actually a

714
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Speaker 9: really good team in Montreal. They're getting the goaltending coffields

715
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Speaker 9: having an excellent season, only a matter of time before

716
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Speaker 9: he gets that fiftieth goal. So I think it's gonna

717
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Speaker 9: be tough for Buffalo if they do make it through there,

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Speaker 9: You're probably looking at maybe a Carolina in the conference final.

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Speaker 6: Certainly wouldn't rule it out, Mike. I think the.

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Speaker 9: East is very wide open compared to the Western Conference.

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Speaker 9: I think any of these teams could go on a

722
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Speaker 9: run and Buffalo could be that team, but I'm probably

723
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Speaker 9: gonna go somewhere else with an Eastern Conference pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you discuss this here a million times across

725
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Speaker 1: multiple airways, but just for you know, for the sake

726
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Speaker 1: of getting this in the Seattle.

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Speaker 4: Airspace, we have to talk about the Leafs. The E

728
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Speaker 4: is next here to their name.

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Speaker 1: Questions abound, and this also begins with their roster Ashtin, Matthews,

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Speaker 1: Morgan Riley, William Nielander.

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Speaker 4: At this point, would.

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Speaker 1: You be surprised if all move on or more if

733
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Speaker 1: all stay by this next year opening night?

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Speaker 9: I would be more surprised if all of them moved on.

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Speaker 9: I really would, just just based on the verbiage that

736
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Speaker 9: they're using. Keith Pelly obviously they make the GM change

737
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Speaker 9: last week and he comes out and speaks president, you know,

738
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Speaker 9: president of the team comes out and speaks and talks

739
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Speaker 9: about how they want to do more of a retool,

740
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Speaker 9: not a rebuild. So I would think any general manager

741
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Speaker 9: coming in and that search is still ongoing, I think

742
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Speaker 9: that's going to be the MO. It's okay, how do

743
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Speaker 9: we get this team back to being a playoff team

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Speaker 9: and a contender with Austin Matthews and with William Neelander

745
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Speaker 9: now Morgan Riley might be a different conversation. I could

746
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Speaker 9: see if they're able to move on from him, maybe

747
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Speaker 9: something there. But I think they want to continue to

748
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Speaker 9: build this team at least for the next couple of

749
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Speaker 9: years around Nelander and Matthews, because these two players are

750
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Speaker 9: still very much in their prime. Like they're still excellent

751
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Speaker 9: hockey players. There's still players capable of ink Neelander's case

752
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 9: ninety plus points. You know, Matthews in a healthy season

753
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 9: could go for fifty heck even sixty, and he's going

754
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 9: to have to bounce back off some sort of injury.

755
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Speaker 9: So I think that's how the Leaves view it. We

756
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 9: got these guys in their prime. Let's see if we

757
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Speaker 9: can kind of thread the needle retool this roster. If

758
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Speaker 9: it doesn't work, then yeah, there's probably gonna be some

759
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 9: lean years and they might have to end up entertaining

760
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Speaker 9: a rebuild a couple of years down the road.

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Speaker 1: Ja con joining us here from the point on Sirius

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Speaker 1: Sex at Menachel Network Radio here as a part of

763
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Speaker 1: Tonight on Crack and Weekly about to the local matters

764
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Speaker 1: here at this point, Jake the Kraken, It looks so

765
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: good about three weeks ago, four weeks ago, coming out

766
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Speaker 1: of the Olympic break, and now they're teetering on the

767
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: brink of elimination. So at this point when you talk

768
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Speaker 1: about the fork in the road with the young players

769
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Speaker 1: coming up and already breaking through on this roster, using

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Speaker 1: just Berkeley Catton as an example, plus also the veterans

771
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Speaker 1: ranging from those who could be extended. Jordan Everly's already

772
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Speaker 1: one of them. Reportedly they were in the mix for

773
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Speaker 1: artimy Paneren right before the Olympic break. What direction for

774
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Speaker 1: them in this next offseason makes the most sense to you.

775
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Speaker 9: Look, it's unfortunate that it's gotten here for Seattle, especially

776
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Speaker 9: because I was kind of thinking, Okay, are we going

777
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Speaker 9: to get a possible Seattle Colorado rematch in the first

778
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 9: round from a few years ago, and Colorado actually clinched

779
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 9: up the Central Division they have won the Central since

780
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 9: that year, and Seattle beat them in the first round.

781
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Speaker 9: I remember being so excited for the fans in Seattle

782
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Speaker 9: that they got to see playoff hockey for the first time,

783
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Speaker 9: because Mike, there's nothing like playoff hockey in the National

784
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 9: Hockey League and you get that first taste of it,

785
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 9: you become a little bit addicted. You're like, oh man,

786
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 9: this is just something else. The building's rocking. So it's unfortunate.

787
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Speaker 4: It was ridiculous back in twenty three. Ridiculous.

788
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Speaker 9: Oh I bet and Utah is most likely going to

789
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Speaker 9: get to experience that this year as well. So I'm

790
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 9: happy for the fans in Utah and I've kind of

791
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 9: been rooting for that this year. I want everybody to

792
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Speaker 9: kind of get that taste of it. So I look,

793
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Speaker 9: that's the goal, right, how do we get back there?

794
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 9: And I just think, unfortunately for the crack And they've

795
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Speaker 9: kind of find themselves in that mushy middle where they

796
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Speaker 9: haven't really been bad enough any year to draft really

797
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 9: high to get that superstar player. They're always competitive but

798
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Speaker 9: yet missing the playoffs, so you got to find a

799
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Speaker 9: way to get that superstar talent. You reference them being

800
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Speaker 9: in on our Tevy panera and that doesn't surprise me

801
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Speaker 9: at all because I think when you see a player

802
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Speaker 9: like that become available, you go, Okay, let's let's do

803
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 9: what we can to bring him in. Unfortunately that didn't

804
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 9: work out. He goes to La So I think that

805
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Speaker 9: would be the top of my list. I know it's

806
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Speaker 9: not easy. It's easy for me to sit here and say, yeah,

807
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 9: go get a superstar, right, it's easy for any of

808
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 9: us to say that. Another thing to actually go do it.

809
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 9: I don't know how you do it, but I think

810
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Speaker 9: that's what you're trying to pull off. Or you're trying

811
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Speaker 9: to get a star player coming to Seattle in any fashion,

812
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Speaker 9: whether that's via trade or via free agency.

813
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: Crazy how free agency has certainly of all because Nick

814
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Speaker 1: Smaltz was for a long time top of the list,

815
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Speaker 1: and he all of a sudden then gets locked up,

816
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Speaker 1: gets extended, and we're, you know, we're seeing more and

817
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: more of this trending because the salary cap is going

818
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: up here in the NHL, so not many big names

819
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Speaker 1: are available this offseason. It is a paper thin free

820
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: agent class as far as proven talent. Bobby McMahon the

821
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Speaker 1: crack and one would love to get him locked up

822
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Speaker 1: presumably here. But we'll see where this goes, because he

823
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Speaker 1: is still a UFA at this point, despite the torching

824
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Speaker 1: start that he has had since beginning his time here

825
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Speaker 1: in Seattle. But I pose this question to one of

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Speaker 1: your colleagues. A few weeks ago, and I'll just you know,

827
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Speaker 1: toss this here to you. Trades versus free agency in

828
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Speaker 1: this day and age in the NHL for the summer,

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Speaker 1: is free agency dead?

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Speaker 9: I think it's it's I don't know if it's fully dead,

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Speaker 9: but it's dying. It's a fairy, faint heartbeat for free

832
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Speaker 9: agency at this point. And look, this might change as

833
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Speaker 9: the landscape changes over the next few years, but I

834
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Speaker 9: think the period you put it perfectly right there, with

835
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Speaker 9: the salary cap going up and players you know, last

836
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Speaker 9: chance to maybe get that eight year deal, that eighth year,

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Speaker 9: I think a lot of guys are comfortable where they're at.

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Speaker 9: They get paid, they take the money before they even

839
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Speaker 9: hit free agency, and that's changed over the last couple

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Speaker 9: of years. So I think if you're a team like

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Speaker 9: Seattle and a handful of other teams that are thinking,

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Speaker 9: I want to improve my team in free agency, you're

843
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Speaker 9: probably looking at going out there and getting middle tier players,

844
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Speaker 9: and those aren't really needle movers.

845
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Speaker 3: Those aren't really.

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Speaker 9: Going to change things too much for you, right, So

847
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Speaker 9: you're not going to go out there and get that

848
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Speaker 9: superstar player in free agency, which leads to probably having

849
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Speaker 9: to make some sort of trade. Again, those aren't easy.

850
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Speaker 9: You got to find a dance partner. You've got to

851
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Speaker 9: be able to make it work for both sides. But

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Speaker 9: I'd be working the phones. I'd be trying to find

853
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Speaker 9: out we just talked about Austin Matthews, right. I don't

854
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 9: think the Leafs are going to deal him in the offseason.

855
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Speaker 9: But that's the type of guy, you know. If I'm

856
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Speaker 9: a Seattle I'd be saying, Hey, what will it take

857
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Speaker 9: to get him here? What do you guys need? Picks, prospects,

858
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 9: you know, whatever it might be. Again, it might not

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Speaker 9: be him in particular, but a player like that, if

860
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Speaker 9: that is, if there's any chance of that, that's the

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Speaker 9: type of trade I'd be looking to make if I

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Speaker 9: was Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of those young players, let's just go through them

864
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Speaker 1: right now. I mean, Berkeley Catton just turned twenty years

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Speaker 1: of age and many love what he's doing despite the

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Speaker 1: goal scoring finish not being there yet for him. Jacobrien

867
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Speaker 1: ohl Guy is tearing it up the season. Shane Wright

868
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: is in his early twenties, Matty Beaniers is still in

869
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: his early twenties as well. Out of that group, for

870
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: anybody else, who is the most compelling young guy to

871
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: you for this next season.

872
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 9: I think Catton, just because we haven't seen as much

873
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 9: of him yet, and I see the potential because I'm

874
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 9: looking for someone to be a true needle mover here

875
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 9: and I'm not saying those other guys can't be, but

876
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 9: I think he's the one that maybe intrigues me to

877
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 9: the most here going long term. And I have to

878
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 9: remind myself how young Matti Beniers is still. I feel

879
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 9: like he's now been around for a while and I

880
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 9: treat him as a more of a mid twenties, late

881
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 9: twenties guy, but he's not. He's still in his early twenties.

882
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 9: He's still kind of learning the NHL game, and I

883
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 9: think at times I've been underwhelmed by the.

884
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 6: Production, not by the play. The eye test.

885
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 9: When I watch Beniers, I like what I see, but

886
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 9: you look at the points and you go, Okay, it's

887
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 9: a little underwhelming for a guy drafted that high. You

888
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 9: know you want that ninety plus point guy. Maybe he

889
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 9: can become that at some point, and you hope Shane

890
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 9: Wright can be a legitimate goal scorer as well. So again,

891
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 9: it kind of goes back to what I said at

892
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,959
Speaker 9: the start. You need someone to develop into a needle

893
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 9: mover here, like a true again ninety plus point guy,

894
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 9: forty plus goal scorer. That's what they need to do.

895
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 9: Maybe it's just patients with some of these young guys.

896
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 9: You know, watch Benears develop, watch Shane Wright developed. Maybe

897
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 9: Katten turns into something that's the hope in Seattle. So

898
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 9: I'm bullish on what Catton could become. And I'm gonna

899
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 9: still stay patient with Maddy Biniers. I got to cut

900
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 9: the guy some slack. He's still very very young.

901
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: On the verge of twenty goal third time four seasons.

902
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: When you consider the the kind of game that he

903
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: loves to play, the two hundred foot style defensively, he

904
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: is on the cusp once again of hitting that benchmark.

905
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: Speaking of ninety point guys, Koutrov, McDavid McKinnon, Celebrini or

906
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: the field who does the heart trophy go.

907
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 9: To oh man, this is this. I flip flop on

908
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 9: this most daily, Mike. This is a great race between

909
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 9: these guys. I'll watch the Sharks that I'll go, I'll

910
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 9: give it to Celebrini. Then I watch the Lightning and

911
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 9: I go, Okay, maybe Kutrov should get it. And then

912
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 9: I see the even strength goal scorer or the even

913
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 9: strength points for Nathan McKinnon are very impressive, and I think,

914
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 9: you know, maybe because McKinnon just won it a couple

915
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 9: of years ago, maybe voters will pivot somewhere else. I know,

916
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 9: Kutrov doesn't seem to get the attention that he probably deserves.

917
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 9: And everybody loves Macklin Celebrini. I mean, it's just a

918
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 9: love and around the league, and why not.

919
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 6: The kid is special.

920
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 9: He's so exciting to watch, especially in Canada for those

921
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 9: watching the Olympics, and you had a young kid, a

922
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 9: teenager like that, making an impact at the Olympics. So

923
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 9: if the Sharks get into the playoffs, Mike, I think

924
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 9: my vote might be going to Macklin Celebrini, and it

925
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 9: might be a little biased. I just like watching the guy,

926
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 9: but ultimately Nikita Kutrov what he means to that Tampa

927
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 9: Bay Lightning team. If San Jose doesn't make it, I'm

928
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 9: giving the vote to kuch. I think he's just been

929
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 9: unbelievable this year, and I think he's been disrespected in

930
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 9: the voting too many times. It's kind of it's time

931
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 9: to right some of those wrongs this.

932
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 4: Year, Jake.

933
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: We can't let you go without the us in the

934
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: craziness that we have seen over the last week with

935
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: coaching changes, and I kind of have joked to mean,

936
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: I think we're on the verge of seeing someone replaced

937
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: mid round during the Stanley Cup playoffs. This actually happened

938
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: globally elsewhere back in the CAHL.

939
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: It actually happened two years ago.

940
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: But the Islanders are right now three points out of

941
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: the mix, bringing on Pete de Boor for Patrick Wahb.

942
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: The Vegas Golden Knights brought in John Tortorella replacing Bruce Cassidy,

943
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: and what do you know, They've won four in a

944
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: row and are now on the verge of a division

945
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: title in the Pacific Division. Would this surprise you to

946
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: see this happen again down the road or where you

947
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: just call this maybe for this season a one off?

948
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 9: I think, well, mate, look this is a bit of

949
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 9: a copycat of league, so maybe maybe it is something

950
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 9: if it works for these teams.

951
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 6: And we're gonna wait and see.

952
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 9: The Islanders haven't even played a game with Peter de

953
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 9: Boor yet, and they've got four games left and they're

954
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 9: kind of watching everybody past them. I think the Islanders

955
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 9: are in trouble for this season. I think they're gonna

956
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 9: miss the playoffs. I think this is more for next

957
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 9: year and beyond with Matt Schaffer, and they want to

958
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 9: to get in front of Peter de boor block other

959
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 9: teams from going to get him.

960
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 6: But if this.

961
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 9: Works for Vegas, and you just said it, there all

962
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 9: of a sudden looking like they might win the Pacific Division.

963
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 9: Here they timed it out well. They bring in towards.

964
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 9: They had two against the Canucks, one against the Calgary Flames.

965
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 9: They were very impressive in Edmonton though against the Oilers,

966
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 9: I thought that was the game where they.

967
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 6: Really wowed me.

968
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 9: If that works out for them, they go on any

969
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 9: sort of playoff run, you might see other teams go,

970
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 9: you know what, we can fire a coach with three

971
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 9: weeks left in the season, bring in a guy like Tortorella,

972
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 9: kick the team in the pants, and make it sort

973
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 9: of a timing type situation. We always talk about the

974
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 9: coach bump, right, and normally we see it in January

975
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,959
Speaker 9: or something like that, and then it wears off. Maybe

976
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 9: there's something to be said for the coach bump at

977
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 9: this time of the year and you use it to

978
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 9: propel yourself into the playoffs. It's interesting strategy, not one

979
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 9: I thought we would see this year.

980
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 4: Though, Jake, good stuff man.

981
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: Appreciate you and for those around here just getting still

982
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: in tomb. Social media, whis best place to find you?

983
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: Where is it at?

984
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 9: Jhon four on x formerly known as Twitter, So you

985
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 9: can reach me there, you can ask me a question,

986
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 9: things like that.

987
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe have.

988
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 9: Some Master's picks up there as well throughout the course

989
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 9: of the week. So thanks for having me on Mike.

990
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 9: Really great chat with you.

991
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm going Rory by the way, please lock it in. Jake,

992
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: thank you, appreciate you all.

993
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 4: Right, Grace Tove, Jake, thank you very much.

994
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: Jaken joining us here on Crack and Weekly, Everett myself,

995
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: Al Kaniski. We will be right back after this with

996
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: final thoughts, poll question, update, mail bag, three stars and

997
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: you right here on Cracking Weekly on ninety three to

998
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: three k JERFM. Youth could be a big piece of

999
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: this picture very very soon on the Crack and side directions.

1000
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: What we're looking forward to as far as uh, what's

1001
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: going to be coming about here for this and this

1002
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: next summer and that leads us here to our Crack

1003
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: and weekly poll question. With five games left in the

1004
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,479
Speaker 1: regular season, which young player do you want to see

1005
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: a scoring streak from most to end the regular season?

1006
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: As of right now, drum roll please, forty percent of

1007
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: you say either Matty Beaneer's or Berkeley Catton. It is

1008
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: a tie right now, but it is fluctuating back and

1009
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: forth as of right now, a forty percent draw between

1010
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: Matty Beanear's and Berkeley Catton. That pole question still ongoing

1011
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: right now at Twitter and x at Kraken Audio Net.

1012
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: Always a sudden to look forward to, But as Everetten

1013
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: now said, you keep playing as hard as you can

1014
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: until that he is right by your name. The situation's dire,

1015
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: but there is still opportunity here as the Kraken get

1016
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: back at home for one last home stand for the

1017
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: regular season Tomorrow night against Tomorrow night against Vegas, then

1018
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: this Saturday coming up against Calgary Rare afternoon start time

1019
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: by the way at four o'clock, and then Monday regular

1020
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: season home finale against Los Angeles Kings before the Crack

1021
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: can end this regular season on the road in Vegas

1022
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: and Colorado. Everetten now back with us right now, Fellows,

1023
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: what about you Baneer's Catton, Fisker, Mulgard or the field

1024
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: for the young player that you want to see a

1025
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: streak from scoring wise to end the regular season, Yeah,

1026
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: I would go.

1027
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 8: I'd love to see a goal or two from Visker,

1028
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 8: Molgard and Malanson. I think that you know they've played

1029
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 8: well enough to certainly get those.

1030
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: If you're talking about goals scoring streaks or points also,

1031
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, points streaks.

1032
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 8: I'd love to see Maddy Beniers end the season on one.

1033
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 8: I'll talk about him a little bit in my three Keys,

1034
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 8: but I think Berkeley Catton, you know Berkeley Catton, same thing.

1035
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 8: His game has developed over the course of the year.

1036
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 8: He's he's looked good at certain points, He's looked junior

1037
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 8: hockey still at certain points, but I think that junior

1038
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 8: hockey piece is slowly coming out of him and his

1039
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 8: game is adapting to the NHL level. So I'd love

1040
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 8: to see him end the season with a handful of

1041
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 8: points to wrap it up.

1042
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go Maddi Beniers. I mean, I'm looking

1043
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: at two goals, four assists his last twelve games. I'd

1044
00:48:59,040 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 3: like to.

1045
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 7: See him pick up a little bit more of the

1046
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 7: offense going into the summer. I mean, like I mentioned earlier,

1047
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 7: this is now about giving yourselves a good taste in

1048
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 7: your mouth going into the summertime and going into the offseason,

1049
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 7: giving you something to build on. I think these last

1050
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 7: five games are just as important individually as they are collectively.

1051
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 7: And Matty Beaneers this year, you know, no one can

1052
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 7: argue with the defensive turnaround.

1053
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: That we've seen in his game.

1054
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 7: I mean Matty Beaneers right now this season at a

1055
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 7: you know, minus eight, but he or yeah, minus eight

1056
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 7: this year, forty seven points, if you can get to fifty,

1057
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 7: that'd be great. Twenty goals. He's one shy of that.

1058
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 7: But I think that I'd love to see Maddy Beaneers

1059
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 7: showing the flashes of that seventy point player. We all

1060
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 7: think he should be, right, you know, my whole thing

1061
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 7: ten points per million, right, I'd love to see Matty

1062
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 7: Beaneers with the seventy point season, seventy five point season,

1063
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 7: a thirty goal season coming up here soon. So if

1064
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 7: we can see Matty Beaneers stream together, you know, four

1065
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 7: in two in these last five games, five and whatever,

1066
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 7: you know, three and seven, if he if he can,

1067
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 7: you know fill the score sheet in these next next

1068
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 7: five games. I think you're gonna you're gonna feel good

1069
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 7: about where he is going into next season.

1070
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: All right, our mail bag segment once again, you can

1071
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: find me at Twitter and ex at Benton Underscore Mike

1072
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: ever it fits you is at the Voice fits Alconisky,

1073
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: also at al Kaniski. And we get a question here

1074
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: from Troy and this is as simple and direct, does

1075
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: it gets?

1076
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 5: All?

1077
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 4: Right? What's our next move?

1078
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: So it really depends on how this regular season is

1079
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: going to end. But I think we know as far

1080
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: as where this is tracking when it is going to

1081
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: end by game eighty two, potentially once again the crack

1082
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: and five games left regular season, they're nine points out.

1083
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a very very tricky situation, I'm

1084
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: going to tell you right now. But I again see

1085
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: merits here to both sides of this argument. I touched

1086
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: on this back at the top of the show. If

1087
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: you want to be aggressive, if you want to go

1088
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: ahead and find a new way, a new route to

1089
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: add your roster, if the playoffs are a priority, dig

1090
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: in its go time. Trademarkets where you got to go

1091
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: to hammer away and be prepared to pay up and

1092
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: pay up richly, not to mention Bobby McMahon due to

1093
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: be a UFA and with his run right now, he

1094
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: is showing that he is going to be worth potentially

1095
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: every single penny no matter what the final costs will

1096
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: be here. But this is again the cost of doing business,

1097
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: especially in the NHL when you're a fifth or franchise

1098
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: and you're also battling it out with teams who have

1099
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: been in this league for decades upon decades and they

1100
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: have a longer track record.

1101
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 4: Here's where I see.

1102
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: If you want to go with the younger route, you

1103
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: have UFAs said to depart, you'll have cap space opening up.

1104
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: That cap space is there in case you want to

1105
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: bring a veteran or two in who's going to help

1106
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: you up front? But also I think be a big

1107
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: culture guy. That's the most important thing for me. This

1108
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: is someone who's going to be I think aligned with

1109
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: Lane Lambert, his vision and what he laid down for

1110
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: the first two thirds of this season. From there, here's

1111
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 1: the beauty of this elevate Berkeley Catton, elevate, Matty Benier,

1112
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: still maybe even Shane Wright in this picture, Oscar Fisker Muleguard,

1113
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: he blew us away. Can Tyson Jugnauth also make this roster. Yes,

1114
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: I know Ded take longer to develop, but he's shown

1115
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: the fast track to get into the NHL more so

1116
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 1: than others on this blue line. Some folks will say,

1117
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: you let the kids play, I will still show up.

1118
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 1: That's very important to consider when you have a plan

1119
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: in place and you provide direction.

1120
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 4: Watching the kids.

1121
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: Grow, no matter the ups and downs, is a fun

1122
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: thing here to watch and that will be an important

1123
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: part of this decision.

1124
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 4: Potentially for this next summer.

1125
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean four UFAs this summer, five to count

1126
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 8: Mount Murray. I can't see a situation where this team

1127
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 8: carries three goaltenders next season. So you know, as much

1128
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 8: as I like the person in the play of Matt Murray,

1129
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 8: I just don't see him being part of this roster

1130
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 8: long term. And that leaves you with Schwartz Toldenen, Bobby

1131
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 8: McMahon and Alexiak and this team I think has to

1132
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 8: find a way to hold on to Bobby McMahon.

1133
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 3: Now that may impact some of the.

1134
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 8: Other UFAs, it may not, but they've got to make

1135
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 8: a real hard decision on what it's going to take

1136
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 8: to keep Bobby McMahon around based on how his first

1137
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 8: sample size has come through here since the trade deadline.

1138
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 8: That's the big one for me, Mikey. I think if

1139
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 8: this team is able to come to terms and keep

1140
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 8: Bobby McMahon, the other uf as you know, I'm fifty

1141
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 8: to fifty on. I think that mcmahn's the most critical

1142
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 8: one of the bunch. I think going into next season,

1143
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 8: and everything you said is right, I want to keep

1144
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 8: seeing uh Coppo Coco continue to develop his game. I

1145
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 8: think that he's been fantastic since the return.

1146
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 4: I love you brought him up to Yeah, you.

1147
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 8: Know, yeah, he's He's definitely in that mix for me.

1148
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 8: I think on the blue line, you know, a guy

1149
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 8: like Rikor Evans, you know, listen, Matty Mneer's had a

1150
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 8: down here. I think Rikor Evans has had a down yere.

1151
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 8: I'm hoping he can get.

1152
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 3: It turned around for next year. I'd like to. I'd

1153
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 3: like to see that happen for sure.

1154
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 8: As far as the maybe the bottom four, the bottom

1155
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 8: pairings of defenseman, there could be some change there. We'll see, uh.

1156
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 8: But my highlights I think are are Coco and and

1157
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 8: McMahon as far as uh signing, signing McMahon, and seeing

1158
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 8: Coppo Coco continue to evolve his game.

1159
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 7: I think what's next for Seattle is is taking the

1160
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 7: next step.

1161
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: You know Utah. I'll use Utah as an example. And

1162
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 3: and Al.

1163
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 7: You talked to the two Army Bill Armstrong the other

1164
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 7: day when they were here, you know, he you were

1165
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 7: to ask him, you know, about what's been the difference

1166
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 7: between this year and last year. He told you last

1167
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 7: year we were playing meaningful games. But this year we're

1168
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 7: winning those meaningful games. And I think next year the

1169
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 7: Kraken need to be in that position. You know, this

1170
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 7: year the goal was to the barrel bottom basement, goal

1171
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 7: was to play meaningful games.

1172
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 3: In April, in March. You did that.

1173
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 7: Now next year your floor, your absolute basement floor.

1174
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 3: Playoffs.

1175
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 7: Don matter if it's one, don matter if it's WC two.

1176
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 7: You need to get into the playoff. That is the minimum,

1177
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 7: That is the bare minimum. Next season for this team,

1178
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 7: six years in, you need to get back to the playoffs.

1179
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 7: So you got four first over your next two seasons,

1180
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 7: You've got some We talked about the UFA is going

1181
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 7: to be pushed out. You talked about I mentioned it

1182
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 7: before in I open there are guys on this roster

1183
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 7: that have been of interest to other teams. Make me

1184
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 7: an offer, you know what I mean? There needs to

1185
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 7: be a roster overhaul. You know, there's a lot of

1186
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 7: players on this team that I know that we all

1187
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 7: like personally, our fans like as people they've grown close

1188
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 7: to and grown accustomed to. But these are the facts.

1189
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 7: There is something flawed with the roster as it is

1190
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 7: constructed today, and there needs to be fixes. There needs

1191
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 7: to be changes, and there needs to be hard I

1192
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 7: don't envy Jason Bottril, I don't envy the people who

1193
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 7: have to make those decisions, but there needs to be difficult, hard,

1194
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 7: maybe unpopular decisions made this summer to help advance this

1195
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 7: team to a bare bones minimum playoff spot next year.

1196
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: And I think also one thing that shows as far

1197
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: as potential of this Jason Botterrel pulled off the biggest

1198
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: trade at the deadline of Bobby McMahon. There's no one

1199
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: that's come close to his goalscoring production for names moved.

1200
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: But once again there's one example. You make it move

1201
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: to fill a need, do it with purpose. You can

1202
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: find a way to begin change because change is good Everett,

1203
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: as you said, with what this team is looking to

1204
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: do here in the long term future. All right, to

1205
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: our three stars, we go right now, and I'll just

1206
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 1: begin from this point because it was such a tough

1207
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: four game run and I kind of had to sit

1208
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: back and dwell on this. But once again we have

1209
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: opened this part of the conversation to more of a

1210
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: creative approach. I'll go for this with my third star

1211
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: and head coach Lane Lambert, because I look back last

1212
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: four games, three of them. This team came out ready

1213
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 1: against Utah, two nothing lead against Winnipeg, one nothing lead

1214
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 1: against Minnesota, one nothing lead against a team that had

1215
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: thirty three wins when scoring first this season. Matter of fact,

1216
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: they led to one. They showed that they were prepared

1217
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: to come and play Chicago. Didn't the course begin as well.

1218
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: But I think for the message we're getting for guys

1219
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: who have bought in and we're seeing this as well,

1220
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: there is once again reminders of what kind of culture

1221
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: he is trying to set. We have talked a lot

1222
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: about accountability, We've talked a lot about discipline, but also

1223
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: resolve is a big part.

1224
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 4: Of that too.

1225
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: So we're seeing a bit of a tug right now.

1226
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: I think between old versus new and new concepts are

1227
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: coming in. New concepts are going to break old habits,

1228
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: and breaking old habits will lead a new opportunity and

1229
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: new victories as well. Again, this is a difficult period

1230
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: they're going through right now, but I think once again

1231
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: for the message that's being sent for a difficult time.

1232
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: Lane Lambert is my third start, my second star of

1233
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: Philip Grubauer. Granted a few got past him here, but

1234
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: not many of these were his fault. If any forty

1235
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: two saves forty eight shots, this could have been much

1236
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: much worse, though. I think he came out prepared out

1237
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: of the gate against Winnipeg. The Mark Scheifflee break away

1238
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: way and then the rebound saved showed me at that

1239
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: point he was dialed in. You hope that he's certainly

1240
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: back to health before the end of this regular season

1241
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: to cap off what has been a fine, fine campaign

1242
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: for him. Philip Grubauer is my second star. My first

1243
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: star goes to Coppocaco four points in four games. He

1244
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: has played great hockey since the Olympic break, much more

1245
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: confidence with the puck. He's making plays. He's using size

1246
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: to his advantage. Cop Ocaca was my first star.

1247
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna steal one of yours. Mike.

1248
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 3: I like your creative your creative juices.

1249
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 7: If you want, this is your canvas. My third star

1250
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 7: Mike Betton, thanks for feeling it and uh, you did

1251
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 7: well in Winnipeg and then traveling to Minnesota.

1252
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 4: Thank you, buddy, great great.

1253
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 3: Seeing your folks again. Who made the trip up to Minnesota.

1254
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 3: Oh it was so fund baby boy, do some work.

1255
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 7: So my third star Mike Betton, Uh, I'm with you.

1256
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 7: I didn't even I didn't even you know. I like

1257
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 7: that star for Lane. You know, coaching is not the

1258
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 7: issue for this team.

1259
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 3: He's done it.

1260
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 7: He's tried it all and all the while for as

1261
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 7: frustrated and is for annoyed, and as for as visibly

1262
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 7: upset sometimes as.

1263
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 3: He is, he always makes time for us.

1264
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 7: You can tell that that it ain't for lack of trying,

1265
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 7: and he's always been measured.

1266
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 3: In his responses.

1267
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 7: So I appreciate especially after a tough week like this.

1268
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 7: Lane Lambert will be my second star and four points

1269
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 7: four games. Wesley Fitzi's favorite cracking got Pococo enough said,

1270
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 7: I mean he was a. He was a bright spot

1271
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 7: for this team. You know, I love the Grubauer shot

1272
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 7: there as well. Maybe I'll give him my honorable mention.

1273
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 7: Not really his fault, the cracking. You know, when I

1274
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 7: was doing the TV broadcast in Winnipeg, we had a

1275
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 7: whole package on puck luck, just bad bounces, and that's

1276
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 7: been the case in recent games. Philip Grubauer has given

1277
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 7: Seattle chances to win time and time again the great starts.

1278
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 7: He's made some fun nominal saves early on. I mean,

1279
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 7: I think al we talked about how three four games

1280
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 7: in a row. Now Kraken goaltending has had to make

1281
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 7: bigger saves, game saving saves.

1282
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 3: On the first shift. But you shouldn't be needing to

1283
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 3: make a game.

1284
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 7: Saving save a minute and a half into a hockey game,

1285
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 7: and Gruby's been doing that, So I'll give him my

1286
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 7: honorable mention.

1287
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, my three stars start with Maddy Beneers for my

1288
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 8: third star. He's had assists in the Chicago and Winnipeg games.

1289
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 8: He's closing in on a fifty point season. Yes, you'd

1290
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 8: like to see him get up to the seventy level,

1291
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 8: but it looks like he should finish at fifty or above.

1292
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 8: He looks and plays differently this season, and I like

1293
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 8: the change that he's made to his game. Still producing

1294
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 8: as much as he can offensively, but his defensive game

1295
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 8: has improved so much. So he's my.

1296
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 3: First He's my third star.

1297
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 4: Second start.

1298
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 8: I'm gonna get to Jaden Schwartz a goal and assist

1299
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 8: in that Chicago loss. He was involved on both goals

1300
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 8: in the four to two loss. Three points over his

1301
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 8: last five games. I think he's a leader on this team.

1302
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 8: I think he's a guy that gets it done in

1303
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 8: all situations. Wherever he's needed, he steps up to the plate.

1304
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 8: He's someone that does not shy away from the front

1305
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 8: of the net, plays their game in and game out.

1306
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 3: So he's my.

1307
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 8: Second star, and then, surprise, surprise, Kopocacco is my first

1308
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 8: star as well. Assists in the Winnipeg in Minnesota game.

1309
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 8: Four points over his last five. He'd be a fifty

1310
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 8: point guy as well if he was on an eighty

1311
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 8: two game season. But I think he's good. He's at

1312
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 8: about I don't know sixty two right now, so ten

1313
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 8: or fourteenth short of where everybody else is at that's

1314
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 8: played a full season, so good chance he'll be on

1315
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 8: a fifty point season had he played a full year,

1316
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 8: and hopefully that's the case next year.

1317
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: Very promising signs as he presses on the Crack and

1318
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: trying to press on here. With five games left in

1319
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: the regular season, we're going to cover more of it

1320
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: with a Crack and back home tomorrow night.

1321
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 4: We'll also look forward.

1322
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: To more reaction with the Crack and CEO todd Lywacky,

1323
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: who will address the media tomorrow morning nine thirty am

1324
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: at Climate Pledge Arena as Ron Francis stepping down end

1325
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,919
Speaker 1: of this season as Crack and President of Hockey Operations.

1326
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 4: All the time, we have big thank.

1327
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: You to Jay con for joining us and for Everett's

1328
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: and al right here on Cracking Weekly. We will talk

1329
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 1: with you tomorrow the Crack in taking on Vegas third

1330
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: of four matchups faceous at seven airtimes at six thirty.

1331
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: We'll talk with you tomorrow for Cracking Weekly. I Mike,

1332
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: see you