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Speaker 1: Time now for the obligatory Kevin Faulness, Minnesota Wild.

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Speaker 2: Mentioned well off today, right, We're off today? Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: pagecafe dot com keyword calendar. Well, it sounds like the

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Speaker 2: upping the defense a little bit, it'd be helpful to

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00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 2: have a pure, you know, a pure, purer point guard

431
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 2: to help, you know, maybe alleviate some of the pressure.

432
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 2: I don't know where the answer is on that.

433
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 4: I do know this, How would you feel ahead, how

434
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 4: would you fool about instead of a pure point guard

435
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 4: that they would have a John Paxson type to play

436
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 4: off of Edwards?

437
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 2: Well, they could. They always could use a great I mean,

438
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: a dead ass shooter. There's no question about that dead

439
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: eye shooter. I guess it's a better term. I mix

440
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: the two too often. Yeah, I wouldn't have a problem

441
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 2: with it. I still wonder whether they expect too much

442
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 2: of Anthony because if you'll see, if you'll notice some

443
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 2: of his you know, he was over forty again last night,

444
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: but some of his shots when things go bad, his

445
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 2: shots selection is has been sketchy, right, And sometimes he

446
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,719
Speaker 2: makes those shots anyway, And that's how I think, almost

447
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: a curse, because then they're viewed as decent shots because

448
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 2: he's taking them. And I think there's sometimes you know,

449
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 2: he just does they don't get good enough shots with

450
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 2: him for him at the end of games. Heine had

451
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 2: a lot about their pressure numbers, which it's astonishing. We're

452
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 2: not that good last year and yet they made it

453
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 2: to the final four. In terms of close games, I

454
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 2: think the metrics are better this year, but the last

455
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 2: two games have been awful down the stretch, dumb turnovers,

456
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 2: in a panic, all the sorts of things that they

457
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: should well be passed, you know. I mean, teams win

458
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 2: and lose games, but they should be pass losing that way.

459
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a troubling idea of suggestion that there's a

460
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 4: little bit of a regression in that regard with a

461
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 4: team that should still be hungry about doing more and

462
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 4: just getting to the final four. So and and that's

463
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 4: when it's got to govern himself a little bit instead

464
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 4: of putting on that hero cape and all of a sudden,

465
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 4: Suddens get things get tied, all of a sudden, He's

466
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 4: gotta pull some magical thing out. We're in to win

467
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 4: this game. And one of the best move maybe maybe to

468
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 4: just run the offense. You can get yous ran On

469
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 4: in a good scoring spot, or get Dante Nintendo wide

470
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 4: open for give him an open, open, looky run into

471
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 4: the basket. So he's got to just be a little

472
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Speaker 4: more uh which word cerebral, cerebral those situations.

473
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Speaker 2: No question about it. I do know this. Brett Blake

474
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Speaker 2: Moore is predicting that the final regular season record for

475
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: your Chicago Bears will be eight and nine. Your thoughts, well,

476
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 2: you know, I.

477
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Speaker 4: Heard that crap when I was in traffic, and well,

478
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 4: I think his team off to Cleveland, so anything is

479
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 4: possible the rest of the season here, I predict I

480
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 4: predicted the Bears win one of the two games against

481
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Speaker 4: the Packers, they beat Cleveland, and then if they can

482
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Speaker 4: find one more win the rest of the way, that's

483
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Speaker 4: eleven wins and I might win the division. That just

484
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Speaker 4: might win a division because if you look at the

485
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Speaker 4: remain schedules for Detroit and for green Bay three to

486
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Speaker 4: three and out of the record, ain' il of the

487
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Speaker 4: rem possibility here. So if the Bears get three more wins,

488
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Speaker 4: they could be Kings of the North. And I think

489
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Speaker 4: Brett has to realize the possibility that the Bears, who

490
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Speaker 4: have not had their healthy they have not been at

491
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Speaker 4: full health all year, are starting to get close to

492
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Speaker 4: that you're gonna see Jalen Johnson and Kyli Gordon in

493
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Speaker 4: the starting lineup on Friday against Philadelphia, with TJ. Edwards

494
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 4: not far behind. They're getting to the point here where

495
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: they may finally get all the bodies back on the

496
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Speaker 4: field at once, and you'll see the best version of

497
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:51,959
Speaker 4: the Bears.

498
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: Any rejoinder or response to that la Four out of

499
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: the last five games, let's see Saints not good. Ravens

500
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Speaker 2: they love, then they barely beat Joe Flacco, they barely

501
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: beat the Giants, barely beat nine, and then they barely

502
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 2: beat a Mason Rudolph led Steelers. So it's not exactly

503
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: a good.

504
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: Bad teams.

505
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I believe in Jordan Love and I don't

506
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: believe in Cale Williams. So there, he's getting better. He's

507
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: still not perfect.

508
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 4: You believe in Jordan Love at your own risk, my friend.

509
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: Well we'll find out. I'll go down at the ship.

510
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 2: Are people getting in this town lovel too excited about

511
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: the prospect of a Max Brosemer start? What do you think, guy?

512
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 4: Wasn't it inevitable? I mean, when Broseber played well in

513
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 4: pre season, the Bros were chance started. I remember being

514
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 4: at the stadium and listen to people talk about this thing.

515
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: So you know, I was there trying to defend Sam Hall,

516
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 4: who coughed up a long and ended up getting traded

517
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 4: at Philadelphia. Yeah, and that allowed Brosebord to kind of

518
00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 4: end up on the roster. So as soon as I

519
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 4: was I was that, I was at TCO yesterday. I

520
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 4: sat there when Kose said we put him on, and

521
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: so he started he started building up to the end,

522
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden you get to the point

523
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 4: in the middle of what he's saying. You'm like, he's

524
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 4: about to say concussion protocol, and he goes, yes, concussion protocol,

525
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, I saw Max Brozman's face going, oh, no,

526
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 4: fans are going to be eating this one up all week.

527
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 4: So because I don't know if if there any chance

528
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Speaker 4: JJ can get out of protocol by by Sunday, historically

529
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 4: that's kind of tough to do and what a young,

530
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 4: younger guy want to be careful. So I think you

531
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Speaker 4: have to lean expect the eighty twenty percent chance, eighty

532
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Speaker 4: to twenty percent chance that Broze was going to be

533
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Speaker 4: the guy in saurday at Seattle, which is a tall

534
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Speaker 4: order for a first ever NFL start when you're an

535
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Speaker 4: undrafted free agent quarterback.

536
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Speaker 2: Well, I think the other reason it's at minimum eighty

537
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Speaker 2: twenty is that he's not an established player who you

538
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: you can throw in without practice. So there's going to

539
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: be every reason to believe that. Even if he gets

540
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: declared fine as soon as Thursday or Friday, I think

541
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: it's going to be easy to say, well, he hasn't

542
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: really practiced all week. He's already said that once before

543
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: when he was coming off the knee injury. So I

544
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: think all of that makes it easy. I don't think

545
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: they're inventing this concussion protocol thing. I think they're at

546
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: the mercy of what he told them, right. I mean,

547
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 2: he said he's got you know he got foggy? Did he?

548
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: I don't have any idea, but once a player in

549
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: this day and age goes down that road, you don't

550
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: have any choice. Now they might not mind it again

551
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: that he's going to sit, because right now he is

552
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: not presentable in my view as an NFL quarterback.

553
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: But the.

554
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: Idea that they're inventing the injury, I don't buy. Are

555
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: they nurturing it because it serves a purpose that wouldn't

556
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 2: quite frankly shock me either.

557
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing, though, Usually there's a cognitive baseline

558
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 4: that is taken when you are one hundred percent healthy

559
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 4: that they use against you when you start having symptoms.

560
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 4: So if something's off kilter, that's going to guide their

561
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 4: decision making here. So I know, I don't think this

562
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 4: is a I don't think this is a there's a

563
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 4: conspiracy here, although people started doubting speculating that immediately upon

564
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 4: the tweets being sid out from TCL, once we learned

565
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: that he was in protocol. So I don't think that's

566
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 4: the case. And the other thing too day about this

567
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 4: is that based on the practice schedule, today was going

568
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 4: to be a light day, Wednesday's going to be the

569
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 4: busiest day of the week, Thursday's Thanksgiving, and Friday is

570
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: gonna be a light day of practice. So I don't think,

571
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 4: to be to your point that they would if he

572
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 4: was able to get cleared Friday, then he has just

573
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 4: a light day of practice on Friday before going out

574
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 4: to Seattle. I don't think they want to try to

575
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 4: push that too much in that situation.

576
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're probably right about that. The you know,

577
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: to me. What's interesting is that there are nationally folks

578
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: who believe that McCarthy has been bad enough that his future,

579
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: his viability as coming back as the sort of automatic

580
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: number one guy, is already in question. And you know,

581
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: we were talking to Kevin Seaffert earlier. The unknown question,

582
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: the unanswerable question, is how things might have been different

583
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: if Daniel Jones had accepted their offer. They've got to

584
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: remind folks the Vikings made Daniel Jones a viable offer

585
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: to stay. In fact, I think he ended up taking

586
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: one million dollars less a year to go to Indianapolis.

587
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: Clearly he felt, no matter what they said, that he'd

588
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: have a better chance to win the job in Indy,

589
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: and he was right because McCarthy had kind of been

590
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: anointed the guy, and the guy who was competing against

591
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: an Indy had already been there two years. This is

592
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: his third year, so it's easier for them to say

593
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: we're going to create competition. But the obvious question moving

594
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: forward is if you're going to bring McCarthy back, as

595
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: we expect to be a fat to at least to

596
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: perhaps be the quarterback next year, are you obligated to

597
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: bring someone in Allah a Daniel Jones, if possible that

598
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: what that player represents, the kind of player that Jones

599
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: quarterback that he represents, to give yourself another option, can

600
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: the team afford to just say we're you know, now,

601
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: we're seeing enough promise. We're anointing him for the second

602
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 2: consecutive year. He's going to be our starter, and we're

603
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: going to bring in a backup who can help if

604
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: we have injury issues, but we are not going to

605
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: have that individual compete for the job. What do you think?

606
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 4: I think that you're suggesting that Carson Wentz comes back

607
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 4: next year. Possibly. I agree. I think you have to

608
00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 4: give the gay kid competition, regardless of what the situation is.

609
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 4: Is it because he hasn't thrown a lot of passes,

610
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 4: and you know a player like Browser's twenty five and

611
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: has throwing an attempt at well twice the many passes

612
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: as JJ did in college is because of that? Is

613
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 4: because of something else. I just think that they've got

614
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 4: to bring him more competition next year. Broseburg could be

615
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 4: buy apart that mix two and be honest with you,

616
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: Dan going forward, you know, unbeknownst to how severe the

617
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 4: concussion is, I would start both JJ and Brosemer at

618
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 4: times during the rest of the season, I look at

619
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Speaker 4: both of them. You know, you got a guy you

620
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: like in Brosburg. Maybe he could play, you know, maybe

621
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 4: if he's in the right situation, he can he can

622
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 4: show out. And with this seasons being over all, right,

623
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 4: let's be honest here, this team's not going to the postseason,

624
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 4: you could use the last five or six games to

625
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 4: look at each each one of these guys and start

626
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: putting up some data points that can guide you through

627
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 4: the off season in terms of what vetter you bring

628
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: in and how you approach the quarterback position, because they

629
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: definitely goofed us out during the offseason, messing messing with

630
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 4: a fourteen win team and not bringing back either one

631
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 4: of the veteran quarterbacks or that obviously, I think both

632
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 4: Darnold and Jones, because they're in the building, they knew

633
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 4: how they felt about JJ and figured they had no chance.

634
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 4: I think they had to do it over again, they

635
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 4: would probably say, look, you're gonna be the preferred candidate.

636
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 4: We're gonna look at the kids, but we'll ring regulars

637
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 4: preferred candidate. Maybe Daniel Jones stays under that type of designation,

638
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 4: but I do believe that you've got to We've got

639
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 4: to start looking at the back of quarterbacks across the

640
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: league to see what veterans are gonna possibly be available

641
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: as a free agent to come in and bring some

642
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 4: experience to know this quarterback room. I mean, you know

643
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 4: the Bears have Case Keenham, who's happily sitting there as

644
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: a third string quarterback just to lend his his expertise

645
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 4: to both Cale Williams and Tyson Baging while probably learning

646
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson's system, so he could probably one day be

647
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: a head coach. I wouldn't be surprised. You gotta find

648
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 4: a guy who can be part of that as well

649
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: as possibly be ready to start if either one of

650
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 4: the kids are ready next year.

651
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: Given the recent recovery of the local hockey team, are

652
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: you gonna be forced to write your second Maybe it's

653
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: time to adjust our expectations of the Minnesota Wild. Are

654
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: you gonna have to change it back in the other direction?

655
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: Now?

656
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 4: What do you think that's the great thing Dan about

657
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 4: taking a stand on something, because if you are wrong,

658
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 4: then you get to write the apology column. That means

659
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 4: you get two columns off the one.

660
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: Idea very true, you know what I'm saying.

661
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 4: So yeah, uh, that may be that may be on

662
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: the docket here once we get into January, and if

663
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 4: this thing really looks real. But right now, you know,

664
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: Zic Gorella getting healthy has been a factor. You're off

665
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: getting minutes on the on the quality line, not being

666
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: bared on the fourth line. We could see his talent

667
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 4: and the Great Wall of Saint Paul is really a thing. Yes,

668
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 4: Per Volstadt looks like he is the real deal. And

669
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: if you have two goalies that you are comfortable throwing

670
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: out there, that's a big advantage to get you through

671
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 4: the trials, ups and downs of a regular season man.

672
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 4: So if they can can avoid they can avoid any

673
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 4: further injuries and these young guys could continue to take

674
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 4: steps for it the wild or something out up to

675
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 4: going a big run here. It did not look good

676
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 4: the first month of the season. Uh, And and so

677
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 4: I felt I had every reason to write that come about,

678
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: we may have to adjust our expectations downward. But this

679
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 4: looks like they're showing signs of being in a legitimate turnaround,

680
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 4: and it looks like something they can't sustain, and it

681
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 4: starts with having two strong goalies instead of one. So

682
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 4: I just let's see where this write takes them. Let's

683
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 4: see how they get through the holiday season here and

684
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 4: how they get chugging in January, and we'll we'll assess them. Then.

685
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: If the University of Minnesota knocks off Wisconsin on Saturday

686
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: at the original bank, will you write early next week

687
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: it's time for another PJ flag contract extension?

688
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 4: Absolutely not, absolutely not. The man has his time is unbelievable.

689
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 4: Whenever there's like a decent job available, his name is somehow,

690
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: somehow then gets tossed out there and here comes an extension.

691
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 4: And I think Mark Coyle like he was like boasting

692
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 4: about this, like it was a good thing, Like he

693
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: is like extended PJ like at least once every eighteen

694
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 4: months or something like that. I think I heard him

695
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 4: say that, like, really, is that something really proud of?

696
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 4: You know? You know, you see how you see la

697
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 4: Jack came up a couple of years ago. It gets extended,

698
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: God extended. Other times, I'm I'm not on it. I

699
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 4: don't know if there could be Wisconsin, although I'm still

700
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 4: absolutely flabbergasted, dismayed, and just infuriated that Illinois could not

701
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 4: be Wisconsin. Last week. Yeah, I thought that was a layoff.

702
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 4: I thought at worst that they would fail to cover.

703
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 4: But still, when I'm sitting looking at Wisconsin, I'm looking

704
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: at their goofy offense, I'm like, how the hell they

705
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 4: have a success against Illinois? That was just really disappointing

706
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: to me. So and I think the Gophers have a

707
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 4: chance to beat Wisconsin. I still don't think highly of them.

708
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: And you know, but you never know when you have

709
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 4: another young quarterback in Drake Lindsay uh learning his way.

710
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: It's good to see Darius Taylor's back on the field.

711
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 4: The defense has got to stand tall. I think Smith

712
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 4: is kind of to recavoc against that that they had

713
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 4: the badges offensive line. I don't know what the spread is, Blake,

714
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: do you know what the spread is yesterday? I keep saying, Blake,

715
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 4: Brett Moore, I'm sorry, Brett.

716
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: I think we wasn't it Gophers by like two two

717
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: and a half after I savaged your team? That's only fair. Yeah,

718
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: I will look one second, fan By, I think it

719
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: was around that range. Where is this? I think I

720
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,479
Speaker 2: think I I even I think I predicted it close

721
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: to right. I think I might have said half one

722
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 2: and a half even.

723
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 4: Know they beat Littlenoy last week and they're able to

724
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 4: stop the field and everything and jump around. I'm still

725
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: not impressed with their team. I think they got a

726
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 4: legit def win that game.

727
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 2: They got a legit defense. They they also beat Washington

728
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: on the road. I think they they've played better the

729
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: last few weeks. I think it's quite losable. It should

730
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: be winnable for the Gophers. But I I'm just trying

731
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: to head off the notion that we should hold a

732
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: parade for them if they if they knock off Wisconsin

733
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 2: at home, which given their all to five road record,

734
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: is I would say the very least they could do.

735
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 4: Well. I think the Gophers should win that game. And

736
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 4: if they do win, we just have to ignore what

737
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 4: PJ is going to stay after the game because he

738
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 4: is Penis chests the thing. We are a good football records,

739
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 4: we are a good football team. Whereas you know, we

740
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 4: all know, the reality is you are your records. You

741
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 4: are what your record says. You are right, and and

742
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 4: he's gonna argue that we're a bold team. I said, well,

743
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 4: everybody gets in the ball. So you get the six

744
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 4: wins with sixty schools that make how many bowl games

745
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 4: are there.

746
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: I don't know anymore too. There's thirty two bowls I

747
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: think is I think it's sixty four. I don't have

748
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 2: any idea anymore.

749
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 4: It's run sixty four teams go to a bowl game.

750
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 4: There's nothing. There's not that's not an elite group, that's.

751
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: Not not No.

752
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 4: So you're there just to have an event of someone

753
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 4: else's town, you know. It's not like you're not like

754
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 4: a number five ranked Argon Ducts or something. You're You're

755
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: just there to satisfy the Motor City Bowl people or

756
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 4: whatever bowl you may end up with. So but I

757
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 4: I if you ask me to bet on the game,

758
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 4: I probably would take the Gophers to cover at.

759
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: One and a half.

760
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Badgers can't be tricky, especially they were running

761
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 4: like some weird option thing that gets Illinois that was working,

762
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 4: so they got to watch out for that. Defensively, I

763
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 4: think it's can be up to the Gophers to kind

764
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 4: of slow the Wisconsin attack down. But I think they

765
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 4: can win the game.

766
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, their defense has been dreadful too much of

767
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: certainly on the road this season, so I you know,

768
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 2: I don't think you can count on anything. They should

769
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: be able to handle the Wisconsin offense. But we'll have

770
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: to see.

771
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 4: On that note at mis like one of the best

772
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 4: defensive linemen in the Big ten, you know, and the

773
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: other kid I can't remember his name, he's not bad either.

774
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: Well, we're too young, an Eastern. We're too young. We're

775
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: too young. We've got a lot of young people. Are

776
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: they lining up in the wrong place? And you go,

777
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: you you guys want everything, you know, like it's done

778
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: in fifteen minutes. These things take time. It's year nine.

779
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 2: I mean, give you got to give PJ a chance

780
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: to to regroup and and redevelop even though of course

781
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: we're in the age of the transfer portal right where

782
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: you're supposed to be able to make moves very almost instantly.

783
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: But I digress.

784
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 4: Well, I got I had people people got madamy.

785
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: Last year.

786
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: I wrote the comments said, look, I don't expect PJ

787
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 4: to be like a top ten program every year, but

788
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 4: I think every three years or maybe four years, he

789
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 4: should be able to roll up on ten wins and

790
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 4: possibly be a threat to get in the CFP. I

791
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: don't think that's unreasonable they ask of him. I'm not

792
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 4: asking to him all of a sudden turns program. No

793
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 4: how state, but just have a every now and then

794
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 4: get to have a year where you know you can

795
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 4: get into the final, into the final, whatever twelve it is,

796
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 4: or whatever the CFP is. So that's all I'm asking.

797
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: That's not too much. Well, I think that's very fair.

798
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: Here's my fantasy for the Gopher game. Is an eleven

799
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: o'clock game. I think it's eleven against Wisconsin, but we

800
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: double checked the Gopher time. Whatever time it is, here's

801
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: my here's my fantasy. The Gophers win the game and

802
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 2: the fans storm the field. It's two thirty. My apologies,

803
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: I don't know why if I was eleven two thirty

804
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: this week. That's my fantasy because that will be a

805
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: lot of fun to mock and ridicule on a two

806
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: hour edition of Sunday Sermons.

807
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 4: Whoever the acts Right now, I think.

808
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: We do Gophers. He won last year. I think yeah.

809
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: And then here's what else we're going to hear if

810
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: they win. Here's what we're gonna hear on PJ Flex show.

811
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 5: You know what they got here when I when I

812
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 5: got here, all they said all that matters is we

813
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 5: knock off Wisconsin. And I keep knocking off Wisconsin and

814
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 5: now people are asking why we can't beat Isle and

815
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 5: always change it.

816
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: They always move the goalposts on me. He's already done

817
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: that ten times. He'll do it ten more.

818
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

819
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 4: You know, coaches get in trouble when they make those

820
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 4: initial grandial statements. I remember LOVEE. Smith's press conference. We

821
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 4: was hired by the Bears. We're going to beat Green

822
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 4: Bay and he actually had success.

823
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: They they did eventually. Yeah, it took a while and.

824
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 4: Ben but Ben Johnson came out and said we're gonna

825
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 4: take the northfoot, never give it back. And I'm like, Okay,

826
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 4: now you're really sitting the bar high here.

827
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours and we will uh

828
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: will chat next week. Thanks for helping us out today.

829
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

830
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: No problem. I'll be in Seattle this week for these

831
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 4: biking games, so I'll have fresh miking manution.

832
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: Want to come back safe travels to Seattle, to the

833
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: Great Pacific Northwest, And are you going to go to

834
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: the space needle? Space needle still exists in Seattle, doesn't it.

835
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 5: Now.

836
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: I'm finding like I'm finding in like early Saturday evening,

837
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 4: I'm probably there are time to just grab some dinner

838
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 4: and get ready for the game the next day. So

839
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 4: all right, that's how I'm rolling this week, and I'm

840
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 4: taking it right out of back, so I'm not really

841
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: spending that much time in Seattle.

842
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough? We will chat soon. Save travels out there,

843
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Lavelle e Neil the third on what's kind

844
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: of essentially our pre Thanksgiving edition of the Bumper to

845
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: Bumper program for twenty twenty five. We'll come back with

846
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: maybe even a leftover Vikings talking point from yesterday. I

847
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 2: think we got the most of them, but there might

848
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: be one more we can include, and maybe some more

849
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: final some final thoughts for at least today on the Gopher,

850
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: I should say the Vikings quarterback situation, and perhaps we

851
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: kind of redo a rant from the first segment of

852
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: the program Gopher related don't go the Friday Football Fees

853
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Speaker 2: Black Friday and join Pa nord no alec Lewis did

855
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Speaker 2: they break down Sunday show Down with the Super Chickens

856
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Speaker 2: The Seahawks doors open at eight am, Great food, drinks,

857
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Speaker 2: prizes including Traine hob shoes, gift cards, all morning Long

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Speaker 5: Six four.

861
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: One guy writes Brett blakemore safe travels. Just went Albert

862
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: Lee to Mason City, dry and forty degrees. Yes, looks

863
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: like you have until about nine pm. That uld be close,

864
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: isn't it. Yeah? Well, I mean all I gotta do

865
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: is just get Talbert Lee. Yeah, so I should be okay.

866
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 2: Then let's smooth sailing. Don't you hit the border? Yeah,

867
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: your troubles are behind you. What does this mean? Pete

868
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: and Woodbury two people on campaeon who shouldn't talk hockey?

869
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: Pa and Lava?

870
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 4: Why?

871
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: I got no problem with either one of them talking puck.

872
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: These puck snobs, you know, they think they're they're guardians

873
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: of the game. It's it's okay for casual hockey fans

874
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: to get involved in the conversation. I'm still out of

875
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: the text line, so I didn't know where you were going.

876
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: I thought they were ripping you and me. That's why

877
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: Latin wouldn't be the first ta Yeah, it wouldn't be

878
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 2: the first time that that indeed takes place. Here's this

879
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 2: will be well, actually we will have time to talk

880
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: preview on Sunday one more time that you have Vikings

881
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: and Seattle game, and so some of this we can

882
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: save until then. Look, I get it. I am not

883
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: going to hammer Vikings fans who are excited about the

884
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: prospect of Max Brosmer's starting. There may be some who

885
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: will be irrational, who are irrational about what he represents

886
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: and will lose their minds or they will overreact if

887
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 2: he plays competently. But we watch these teams, especially when

888
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: it comes to professional football, every week man with a

889
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: great deal of passion. And if you're a Vikings fan,

890
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: you're beaten down right now, right, I mean, nothing is working.

891
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 2: The team is out of the playoff chase already even

892
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: before we get to Thanksgiving, and the quarterback, the franchise,

893
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: save your quarterback, does not look close to ready to

894
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: just being out on the field with a start. Okay,

895
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: all of that I think is absolutely, I think undeniable

896
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: on the basis of what we've seen. So you're just

897
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: looking for something, right, You're looking for some morsel of hope,

898
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: even if you're smart enough to know it's not probably

899
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 2: realistic to think that Max Brozmer can be the guy

900
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: forever but you say I have film out there might

901
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: be kind of fun. It'll at least maybe feel differently.

902
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: And I think some of it is, well, let's see,

903
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: let's see a different quarterback work with the same supporting cast.

904
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 2: And so if that's the way you're thinking, I can't

905
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 2: get mad about that. Even if I think some of

906
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 2: the interest in Brozemer backup quarterback syndrome, interest goes well

907
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: beyond the normal because it's a guy who played here

908
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: a year ago, and I think there are a lot

909
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: of people who kind of jumped on it. Because they've

910
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: just jumped on it. It's become quite fashionable. But human

911
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: nature being what it is, you're it's fair in the

912
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 2: You get beaten down over the course of a long season.

913
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: So even if you know you're not going to make

914
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: your team's not going to make the playoffs this year,

915
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: a year after fourteen and three, you're just looking for

916
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: something you can cheer about, get excited about, lose yourself

917
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: in that will feel a little less heavy, because right

918
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 2: now everything Vikings related feels heavy. So we've seen it before,

919
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: even if it doesn't always make sense. Going to Seattle

920
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: a tough place to play against a team that has

921
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: one of the better records in all the National Football Conference.

922
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: We've seen it before that, for whatever reason, a quarterback

923
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 2: who's got nothing to lose comes out there and makes

924
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 2: a couple of plays, maybe the vikings perish, the thought

925
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: get a takeaway, and you're suddenly feeling a little bit

926
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: better about things. I don't think anybody can be mad

927
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 2: about that at all. And I think if you are

928
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: a mcbobo, there's a part of you that should should say,

929
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: you know, I still think I've leaving them, but and

930
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: I've tried to tell people, well, the receivers haven't helped

931
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: him out enough, the offensive line hasn't helped him out enough.

932
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 2: But let's see what happens with somebody else there. If

933
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: he gets crushed. If Brozemers sacked six times and he

934
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: throws three picks, that ab starts saying, well, you know,

935
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: there's a lot of infrastructure problems that we have not

936
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: been paying attention to, so all that's fair game. We'll

937
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: get into more of that on a two hour edition

938
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 2: of Sunday Sermons. Post Thanksgiving, a couple final thoughts Thanksgiving

939
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 2: planes trains at automobile thoughts went automobiles thoughts when we return,

940
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 2: and we will remind you of the opening rant of

941
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: the program, related not so much to the professional football team,

942
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 2: but to the college team prepared to host Wisconsin on Saturday.

943
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 2: Don't go. It's the bumper to bumper show, rat specially

944
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: by American pressure gods standing in rev guests, including a

945
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: surprising emotional Carl Gerschmidt in tears for part of the

946
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: award winning prediction segment. If you missed it, it'll be

947
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: podcasted and be available to you after the show. I

948
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: highly recommend it. Who knew that bringing up John Candy

949
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: and the motion picture planes, trains and automobiles would have

950
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: such an impact on Gurby and the prediction segment. Also

951
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: at four in Studio, a good solid hour, a Vikings

952
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 2: conversation with the inimitable Kevin Seffert, and then Lovell gave

953
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: us some bonus time today given we are preempted for

954
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 2: Pro football Lovel's Bears against the Eagles, so we are

955
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: off Friday. He moved up to today and we kind

956
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 2: of just the usual smorgasboard of sports discussion or sports topics.

957
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 2: I guess one could say with Lovell, we are back

958
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: for Sunday Sermons and it will be a two hour

959
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: edition because the vikings are in. We'll be in Seattle

960
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: for the eight games, so you have that to look

961
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: forward to if you're gonna miss us the next several

962
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: days because we are off tomorrow, Thanksgiving and Friday as well.

963
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: The early rant had to do with more of the same.

964
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: I shouldn't even let it affect me at this point,

965
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 2: but every once in a while there's just a concumulative effect.

966
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: We feel like you have to respond, and it's the

967
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: ongoing gibberish from PJ Fleck on you know, zero to one,

968
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: why don't put losses together? Zero one in the championship season?

969
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: And we got too many. We got a lot of

970
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 2: young players and they're lining up wrong, and the lack

971
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 2: of willingness to just flat out say, you know, I've

972
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: been here nine years. I think we've done pretty good work.

973
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: The work this year, especially defensive defensively has not been acceptable.

974
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: It hasn't really been to our standard. I can't pretend otherwise.

975
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 2: Given what has happened in not one, not two, not three,

976
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: not four, but five road games, I think that would

977
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: be so refreshing, beyond the old, because everybody is the old.

978
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 2: What's on me? But I more of just an acknowledgment.

979
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean he has to bash his club. The nonsense

980
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: that he continues to go with that we're a very

981
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: good football team or a good football team like he

982
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 2: I guess thinks no one watches the games. I don't

983
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 2: understand what he expects. And I'll say again, I think

984
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: even discerning Gophers fans every once in a while have

985
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: to roll their eyes and say, I mean, I've watched.

986
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: Who are you fooling with this? It's not going to

987
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 2: be It's not worth bringing up youth nine years into

988
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: your program in the period of the transfer portal. It

989
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: just isn't. And why he continues to go down that

990
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: road in part because I don't think he ever really

991
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: gets challenged on it, and he's so used to it

992
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: that that's what he goes with. But the die has

993
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: been cast. The season cannot be saved by beating Wisconsin.

994
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: You can talk about the rivalries. I've been around here

995
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: for forty or close to it regarding the rivalries, and

996
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: I get it, but that does not erase what has

997
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: been a series of non competitive performances on the road,

998
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: not just losing on the road, but not even being competitive.

999
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: On the road, allowing the appros and quarterbacks to average

1000
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 2: almost eighty percent completion percentage. That's just not workable. That's

1001
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: not Big ten level, even second tier of the Big

1002
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: ten as as well. So there we have it. I

1003
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: just everyone's it's it's not new, but it stands out

1004
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 2: and sometimes more than others. And this is a good

1005
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: example of exactly that Northwestern had nothing going offensively, and

1006
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: they looked like an offensive juggernaut against the Gophers. I

1007
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 2: think second straight week we gave up over well, I

1008
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: know against Northwestern it was close to five hundred yards

1009
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: five hundred and fifty yards and who never really stopped

1010
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: them for any significant part in a game in which

1011
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: they had nicely come from behind and built a I

1012
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: think it was a fifteen point lead, I'm not mistaken.

1013
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: I think it was twenty eight thirteen, and we couldn't

1014
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: hold onto it. We couldn't come close to holding on

1015
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: to it. So just some sort of acknowledgment that this

1016
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: is more than a We had a lot of guys

1017
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: who did a lot of good things. We're this is it.

1018
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 2: We're not playing little league football here, man, This isn't

1019
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: Pop Warner League. This is major college football. And this

1020
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: is a guy who said before the season began, what

1021
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: be delusional? In other words, think the unthinkable? And it

1022
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 2: seemed to be that message was why can't we be

1023
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: the Indiana this year? And they obviously have not come

1024
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 2: close to being the Indiana of this year. So that'll

1025
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 2: also be available to you as well. What do we

1026
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: have coming up next on the fan? Do we know Brettlckmore?

1027
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 2: We got Vikings Country Andrew Depaula ooh nice. Okay, somewhere

1028
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: in Saint Paul, I believes long snap. I wonder if

1029
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 2: there are analytics for long snappers. I guess there probably are.

1030
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: The first thing else and I mean, do they do

1031
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: you evaluate? Is there a way to objectively evaluate, like

1032
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: distinguish one snap from another, like a great snap from

1033
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: a good snap? Is that part of long snapping analytics?

1034
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: I'll leave that to the maybe discussed. Maybe I'd be

1035
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: discussed tonight. Even better. Happy Thanksgiving to you, safe travels,

1036
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: Thank you, and we will see you again on Sunday.

1037
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving to all of our listeners as well. We

1038
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 2: appreciate the text today. And yeah, I if you have

1039
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: not seen planes, trains and automobiles, I envy you and

1040
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: I would hardly recommend you find a way to do

1041
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: it with or without the people around you. It's a

1042
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: terrific film that's about more than the comedy. It's John

1043
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: Candy at his emotional best late in that film. Thanks

1044
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 2: again for watching, thank you for listening, and we will

1045
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: talk to you Sunday morning at nine