WEBVTT - The Night Cap with Gary Jeff Walker -- 10/13/25 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.880 Jeff Walker on this Monday evening could be back with 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:07.360 you until midnight to night. And what a day, What 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:13.760 a historic, mind blowing day. The hostages, the living hostages, 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:19.400 finally returned by Hamas to Israel, to the cheers and 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.680 the tears and the hugs of their family and their 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:28.560 countrymen after over two years in captivity held by the 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:35.959 brutal terrorists known as Hamas. What happens next, Well, not 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:38.800 only President Trump in Israel today speaking in front of 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:43.720 the Kanesset, but has been in Egypt for a peace 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:48.199 summit with thirty five countries from the Middle East, Europe, 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:53.720 around the world who were requested to be there by 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:58.320 the President and his negotiating team and who said, yes, 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:04.480 we're interested in this. You know, from a business perspective, 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:10.640 and Trump first and foremost businessman and a builder the 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:15.039 art of the deal author But from a business standpoint, 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:21.200 peace makes sense. It doesn't make sense economically to kill people. 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.600 We'll be talking a lot about that tonight and what 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:33.200 comes next, and we're all cautiously optimistic or just cautious 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:38.399 period about what Hamas does next. But the President has 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:42.760 said part of this twenty point plan is for Hamas 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.800 to disarm. They've lied and broken away from agreements in 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:50.960 the past, will they do so at their own peril 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:59.000 because Israel has full stop authority from the United States 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:03.800 and from all these countries to If Hamas doesn't lay 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:09.320 down their weapons and leave Gaza to the Palestinians who 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:13.960 want peace, well, we can still do it the hard way. 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:18.880 But from a business perspective, this makes the most sense. 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.720 There's not as much money in killing people as there 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:30.280 is in having peaceful societies where people live and do 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:34.440 business and work together side by side, and I believe 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:38.000 that's what President Trump is striving for in all of this. 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.560 We'll have to wait and see if it happens. 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.600 They've talked about it my entire life peace in the 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:49.520 Middle East, and the Bible says, and this is the 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:54.160 reason I'm cautious. The Bible says, men will cry peace, peace, 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:58.480 but there will be no peace. So we'll just have 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.800 to wait and see about this time. Up next to 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.480 talk about maybe the economic implications of all of this. 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:10.440 Todd Sheets starred Raymond James. He's the author of a 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:14.239 newsletter on Substack on Wealth and Progress and the author 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:18.520 of the book two thousand and eight What Really Happened, 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:24.160 where he explains the great financial crisis of seventeen years ago, 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.720 which you probably well remember. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.840 I know I do. Gary Jeff with you on the Nightcap. 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.880 Todd Sheets is up next, a full show including Christina 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:39.240 Bob former attorney for President Trump. Jared Nott, who wrote 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.880 the book Tiny Blunders more on that. 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.040 He's got a part two that's out now. 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:48.960 Thomas havilin my friend from the Air Force, who has 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:53.040 more news about spike proteins and how to get rid 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:57.400 of them to your own benefit. Doctor John Huber on 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:01.920 the psychology and the people who have just been returned 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:05.040 to Israel to their families after over two years in captivity, 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:10.960 what they are going to need psychologically, the PTSD and 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.840 all of that. And wild Man Walker was some sports 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:15.720 for the out of sorts, and we got all kinds 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:17.919 of people out of sorts when it comes to our 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:22.240 professional franchises in Cincinnati, there's no question about that. It 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.920 all begins next on seven hundred WLW letter you can 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:29.200 find for free on substech called Unwealth and Progress. He 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.480 has a new newsletter. I guess almost every week, if 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.560 not every day, I'm not sure. I didn't check today, 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.120 but I will as soon as we get done off 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.000 the phone. Also the author of two thousand and eight 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:46.839 What Really Happened, describing and explaining the great financial crisis 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.000 our country went through seventeen years ago. 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:51.240 Maybe if it. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.080 Can happen again that way, I don't know. And I 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:59.160 also want to talk with Todd about the peace deal 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.280 that is under way right now in Egypt with thirty 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:07.840 five countries, including the US and Israel, as it regards 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.280 the war in the Middle East and Middle East piece overall, 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.120 because the President has said this is a golden age 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.600 of the Middle East. It's just beginning and we'll see 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.560 how it progresses from here. There have been a lot 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:24.920 of attempts in the past, and to this point none 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:26.520 of them have been permanent fixes. 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:27.479 We'll see. 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.320 But Todd Sheets, welcome to the night Cap. It's great 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:31.560 to have you back, man. How you been. 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:34.760 I'm doing great, Gary, Glad to be with you again. 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:35.479 Yeah. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:39.320 So what's your latest letter on wealth and progress and substac. 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.479 Well, the most recent one, and as you mentioned it 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.320 usually it's once a week. Usually sometimes there'll be an 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:49.119 additional one. I wrote about gold hitting four thousand dollars 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:53.960 announced last week. Basically asking if this is the canary 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.840 and the gold mine with respect to future inflation. 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.600 And to make a long story short, I think if 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:02.200 you look. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:06.520 Back, there's a long history of the relationship between gold 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:11.360 and money, and the gold standard was implemented initially back 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.760 in the late seventeen hundreds by Britain to try and 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:20.200 restrain central banks from continuing to print too much money 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.560 and fund government deficits to the point of losing the 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.400 confidence of lenders. It worked brilliantly for over one hundred 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.960 years until World War One caused the system to collapse 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.919 when all the major European countries you know, engaged in 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.040 huge deficits spending on the war. And then since the 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.359 United States has gone off the gold standard in the 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.640 early nineteen seventies again because of our deficits, you know, 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:47.719 when LBJ was spending on the Great Society programs in 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.000 the Vietnam War, getting back to your theme of war 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.960 and peace again, you know, that blew out the budget 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.000 deficits that forced us to go off of the gold standard. 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.360 And since then we've had, you know, one good period 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.039 of time which started with Reagan and ran through the 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.920 Clinton years where there was pretty sound money, but Before that, 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.799 we had the inflationary seventies, and we've had this long 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.840 build up of money printing and gold prices escalating. 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:13.840 You know, since two thousand. 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.800 So yeah, that was the last piece basically, So. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:21.520 Four thousand dollars announce gold. What does that portend for 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:25.720 our immediate or continuing economic future? 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.600 Yeah, So I think there's a couple of key points here. 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.320 One is it's very important to understand gold is a 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:39.880 speculative investment, which is best understood I think as almost 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.800 like a prediction market. And so when you see the 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:48.440 price of gold moving up, it tells us that many 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:52.600 people are betting with their own dollars that they think, 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:57.480 you know, the current budget deficits will remain high, that 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.720 the Federal Reserve will continue to print money to try 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.440 and help fund those deficits. And so that's kind of 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.520 what the market's predicting. The part of it that's very 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:11.120 hard to do anything with. And from an investment perspective, 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.200 there's no way of valuing gold like we would a company, 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:18.000 a bond, an apartment building, where we can discount the 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.200 cash flows back and say, hey, we think this is. 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:20.960 The real value. 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.080 Now it's too high or now it's. 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.200 Too low, and so you know. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.480 The second part of it is, in terms of trying 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.040 to read too much in is like, oh, do I 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:30.960 need to be getting in on the gold bandwagon. 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:32.840 You know, whether or not. 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:36.720 The current price already reflects what is going to happen 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.520 in the future and how bad things are going to 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:42.720 become or not is almost purely. 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:44.640 A matter of a hunch kind of thing. 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:49.400 But it does tell us that the trading markets are 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:55.000 foreseeing and betting on the probability that these deficits remain high, 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.560 that the Fed will be printing money, and that we 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.079 probably are in. 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.040 For some higher levels of inflation. 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.920 I hope they're wrong, but that's probably that's what they're telling. 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.719 Well, I do too. All I know about gold is 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:10.199 that William Devane likes the feel of gold, and that commercial. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.000 That commercial creeps my wife out every. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:17.640 He just he likes the feel of gold. We're talking 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.280 to Todd Sheets on the nightcap. 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:25.400 Let's get to today's news, the hostages coming home and 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:29.320 the peace summit in Egypt and what that may mean 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:34.840 for the economic future of the United States and for 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.440 the Middle East and the whole world, and how it 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:44.080 could how it could affect and have tentacles economically everywhere. 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:45.839 Yeah. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.120 Absolutely, And I think you hit on one of the 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.679 key points in the introduction with respect to the Middle East, 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:56.600 which is the number of countries that are involved in 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:01.439 this agreement in trying to make the success. Absolutely, and 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.520 so to me, that takes us back really to Trump's 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:10.200 first term and the Abraham Accords, where we start to 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:15.160 see a change in the historic dynamic, which had always 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:19.800 kind of been Israel against the Arab world, and all 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.040 of a sudden, what we start to see with the 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:26.840 Abraham Accords is the UAE and a couple of other 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:31.000 countries over there starting to sign on to the idea 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:35.040 that no, we want to be on the side of 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:39.640 Israel and the United States and peace and to stand 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:46.040 up against you know, these hostile terrorist regimes you know, Iran, 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:51.280 Iraq or their outposts Hamas Hezbalah and those kinds of things. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:56.720 And that was the beginning of creating the opportunity for 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:01.680 something that is more than just Israel trying to enter 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:08.280 into a an agreement with Hamas and their backers. You 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.360 know that that doesn't stand much of a chance of 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:14.400 lasting and of moving the total dynamics in the Middle East, 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.440 so that we have a significant part of the Arab 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:23.000 world coming around, joining into the Abraham Accords and siding 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.920 with the United States and Israel and saying, look, this 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:30.160 is where we want our future to be, with with peace, 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:36.280 with prosperity, with trade, with an opportunity to diversify our 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:41.880 economies away from oil dependency and towards other sources. 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:42.520 Of growth and income. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.760 You know that that can can work for us, you know, 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:49.520 decades and centuries into the future. And so that's a 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.719 lot of optimism there. I think it's warranted, but you know, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.120 we also have to be cognizant of what the history 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.280 has been there and be cautiously optimistic. 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:02.080 I would say that's exactly how I started out tonight's show, 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.400 was saying cautiously optimistic, and then I then I just 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:10.880 changed it to cautious. But you mentioned getting away from 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:17.240 the paradigm of, you know, letting oil control your economic future. 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.640 Many of these countries, including Saudi Arabia, are looking at 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:25.040 the United Arab Emirates and cutter and the things that 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.240 have been happening there. It's kind of hard to have 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.560 a booming tourist industry with lots of money coming in 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.599 from all around the world when you've got murder and 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:38.280 mayhem being manufactured on a daily basis. So from an 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:42.240 economic standpoint, peace is good. It's not only good from 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:48.640 a human standpoint of ending the bloodshed, the generational bloodshed, 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:53.200 but it's also good from a business standpoint. And I 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.400 think that's what President Trump is really grasping onto and 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.079 all this, don't you think. 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.360 I think you're absolutely right about that. 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:02.600 I mean, you think about it. 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:08.760 It's like, you know, investing in anything is a statement 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:12.080 of confidence in the future, and it's very hard to 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.360 have that kind of confidence in the future, optimism about 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.760 how things are going to go. If you're involved, you're 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:25.840 worried about, you know, either internal problems with peace and 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:30.400 security or external threats coming in the form of Hamas, Iran, 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.880 Iraq and others who would like to, you know, disrupt 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.680 what is happening in Saudi Arabia, UAE. 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.600 Some of these other countries and that kind of thing. 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:43.600 So this is just all an absolutely critical step and 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.200 I do think the ingredients are there for this too, 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:51.800 hopefully and again cautiously hope for something different to happen 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:52.400 this time. 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:57.839 Dodd, do you believe that when I don't think there's 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:01.200 a question of if, when Mundan he gets elected mayor 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:04.160 of New York, if he implements any of these crazy 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:09.160 policies that he's proposed to these gen z who are 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:12.040 going to vote for him, who think capitalism is awful, 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:17.120 do you think that this is going to further damage 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:21.800 New York's economic future long term? 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:22.280 Well, if he. 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.320 Does the thing that the things that he's talking about, 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:30.000 it has to and it's only a matter of how 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:33.680 long does it take for the consequences to start showing up. 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:35.960 But you know, as you said, I think the key 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.960 word in the question you asked was further. And you know, 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:43.080 these problems have been going on in New York, in California, 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.440 in Chicago, you know. 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:46.360 For decades. 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.040 Gradually, you know, some of these are some of the 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:52.160 most you know, they're endowed with some of the most 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:59.080 natural economic benefits of any region, cities, states in the country, 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:05.440 and yet they've managed, through mismanagement to drive companies, businesses, 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.560 and others away in spite of all the advantages they've had. 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.200 You know, New York is the financial center of the world. 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.600 Really in Chicago, with all the benefits, it has a 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.360 financial center of the Midwest and the trading hub and 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.880 all of those kinds of things. California with all the 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.560 you know, great industries it has had out there, and 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.560 yet they've managed to drive these things away. And you know, Mom, 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:30.360 Donnie is just basically a more extreme version of the 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.760 policies that have failed for decades now. So yeah, I 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.400 think it has to have a very negative consequence. 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:40.240 Yeah, he says, I'm a democrat socialist when I ask 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.840 if he's a communist, Well, I mean, the difference is very, 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:48.840 very minimal between a democrat socialist and a communist, just 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:53.360 in my opinion for what I know about both. And 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:58.240 it be a great thing to educate our next generation 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:02.520 on how important capitalism as to a free and fair society, 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:03.000 wouldn't it. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:05.360 Absolutely? 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.240 I mean, I think, you know, I think all this. 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:08.480 I think we are. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.840 We're in the middle of a battle for regime change 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.000 right now. And I wrote a piece on this a 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:19.320 few weeks ago in the Substack newsletter, and I said, 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.920 we've basically been through four regime changes in history, which 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:27.520 is kind of a point where the overall, you know, 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:36.000 dominant competing ways of thinking about culture, social interactions, the economy, 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.560 and the political environment go through these major changes. One 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.160 was obviously the Revolutionary War, the second one was the 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.600 Civil War, The third one was the Great Depression, which 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.360 out of the five is the only one that didn't 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:54.560 involve significant violence. The fourth one was the nineteen sixties, 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.920 and that kind of put us going down the path 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.240 that we've been on for the last sixty years roughly. 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:03.960 And I think they did some good things in the beginning, 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.680 but over you know, over time they pushed it too far, 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.960 and now we are back in the last you know, 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.000 in the most recent iteration of that. 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.359 And I think what the real fight here is about. 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:21.520 It's like, do you believe in the founding classical liberal ideas? 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.840 That doesn't mean liberalism as it's you know, used today, 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.680 but it means the ideas coming out of England and 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.359 Europe and that kind of thing that that our founders 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.920 based the country on. You know, this is the pre 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:37.320 eminence of the individual over the state, the importance of 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:42.120 property rights, freedom of speech, and as you've just eluded, 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:50.080 capitalism as the best way for both individuals and societies 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.879 to lift themselves up out of poverty and in the 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:58.320 prosperity that has ever been benefit you know created right, 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:03.040 and we have hundreds of years now of history that 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:09.160 shows us that these are that all of these ideals delivered. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:11.600 It doesn't mean that we were doing it the right, 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.159 you know, delivering it for everybody like we should have 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:15.600 been from the beginning. And that's why we. 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:18.479 Went through the Civil War, racial changes in the sixties. 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.840 Those were the things to help us realize the ideals 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.360 that we were founded on. But the question I think 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.399 now is do you believe that those are still the 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:31.320 ideals that should be our north star or do you 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.280 believe that we should be going in this completely different 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:37.879 direction which has been which is kind of where the 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.080 left has been trying to lead things for I think 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:41.760 the last roughly twenty five. 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:42.399 To thirty years. 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:47.400 Todd, I hope the originalist went out so I can 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:51.200 say Todd sheets read his letter on wealth and Progress 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.679 and substack for free, and thank you so much for 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:54.399 your time tonight. 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.200 Great to talk to you, sir, you too, Gary, Thanks 0:18:58.240 --> 0:18:59.119 for having me on again. 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:03.440 You got it under WLW on seven hundred WLW joining 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:07.360 us now is a woman really? If I read her 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:10.200 entire resume, it would take up the length of the interview. 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.760 We don't have time for all of that. She started 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:19.320 her legal career in the United States Marine Corps, representing 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:26.119 sailors marines, and since then has had just a stellar. 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:28.119 Law practice. 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:32.320 She worked with President Trump after the twenty twenty election, 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:36.440 and of course the book is defiant inside the mar 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:40.440 A Lago raid and the left's ongoing law Law Fair, 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:45.639 which as a one time attorney for President Trump, she's 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:50.040 uniquely qualified to talk about that law Fair that now 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:54.919 has been somewhat turned on its head thanks to a 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:59.520 new administration in power. Also, she worked for the Department 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:02.600 of Homelands Security as an attorney and today works for 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:06.280 Judicial Watch. Without any further ado to see, I'm done. 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:10.120 That took a minute. Here's Christina Bob on the Nightcap. 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.400 How you doing, Hey, thank you so much for having me. 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:15.600 Oh no, thank you for agreeing to be on. 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:21.040 I always look forward to hear somebody talk about this 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:26.040 law Fair number one, because, of course, now that the 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:30.840 shoe was on the other foot, they're blaming President Trump 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:35.159 of playing politics and retribution when all he's doing is 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:40.560 setting the table to display how crooked they were when 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.520 they were in charge and held those lovers of power, 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.560 including James Comey, the former FBI director. 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:48.399 I believe that. 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:59.240 Let's see, yes, yeah, yeah, the trial arguments or all arguments, 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:01.879 I guess November nineteenth and December fifth, with a trial 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:05.080 set for just after the first of the year next year. 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.480 So Christina, before we get into any of. 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:13.840 That, can we talk about how historic and how president 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:18.919 setting this president is. Does it make you proud to 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:22.919 be associated with Donald Trump? Things like what's happening in 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:24.160 the Middle East right now? 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:26.160 Oh? 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:31.240 I think Donald Trump has done amazing work, not the 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:34.720 least of which he just endured the attacks himself, right, 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:36.960 I mean, how many people would have endured what he 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.680 went through to get to where he is. So I'm 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:44.320 really proud to be associated with him, I would say, 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:46.560 in the worst of his times, right when everybody was 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:49.280 attacking him and hating him. Now, of course he's up 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:51.119 for a Nobel Peace Prize, but she didn't get it 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:54.440 this year. Maybe next year. You know, he's doing some 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.760 historic things, particularly in the Middle East, but not just there. 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:02.560 So yeah, no, I think I think he's doing really 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:04.600 great work. I think there's a lot of work that 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:08.280 needs to be done, whether by his administration the next 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:12.439 you know, Congress needs to step up. We really really 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:18.640 need to, I would say, make some strides on freedom 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:20.840 and getting rid of an administrative state. 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.840 Now, you first, you first came to work with President 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:28.080 Trump as an attorney after the twenty twenty election, and 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:32.480 then continuing and then continuing on, you were working towards 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:36.720 election integrity, which I think we saw a little bit 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.160 better example of in twenty twenty four than we saw 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:39.879 in twenty twenty. 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:43.840 But go ahead, yeah, No, twenty twenty was awful. I mean, 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:46.800 the whole COVID rule change completely changed the game of 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:50.000 the elections. Post the twenty twenty election, I worked with 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:53.199 Rudy Giuliani on his legal team on the post election challenges, 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.359 and then I officially joined President Trump's team in twenty 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:58.359 twenty two as an attorney, you know, gearing up and 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:02.840 getting ready for the twenty twenty four election, which obviously 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:07.399 was a tremendous success and thrilled with those results. But 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:11.840 our elections are not not secure where they need to be, 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:14.399 not by a long shot. Twenty twenty four was better 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:17.840 because they didn't have the COVID rules to play by. 0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:19.720 I mean, the twenty twenty election was flat out of 0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:22.600 legal all the way it was conducted, they used COVID 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:25.520 as an excuse. They changed, they spot up broke the law, 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:30.560 particularly with mail in ballots. So yeah, twenty twenty four 0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:34.639 was better, and of course President Trump won, So I 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:36.560 think that goes to show that they didn't have enough 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:38.520 margin to cheat. In twenty twenty four, I. 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:42.560 Had talked extensively with a man named Gregory Stenstrom who 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:46.600 was involved in the legal challenges in Pennsylvania and what 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:50.359 happened during that twenty twenty election, and he told me 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:56.719 with some great satisfaction. I mean, it was a ruined 0:23:56.760 --> 0:24:00.159 election obviously in Pa, like in a lot of other 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:03.919 places around the country. But he told me was with 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:08.120 a great deal of pleasure that a judge in too 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.760 late after the fact in twenty twenty two and twenty 0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:15.119 twenty three, admitted in court that the election was fraudulent 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.480 in Pennsylvania and that it was illegal. 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:19.840 A judge admitted that it was illegal. 0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:21.879 You know, Yeah, the judge ruled that the mail in 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:26.440 ballot were illegal. Yeah, three years too late, no doubt. 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:30.440 You know, it didn't really do anything, but but yeah, 0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:35.160 I mean so legally speaking, the only time that type 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.639 of mail in ballot operation was permitted was in twenty twenty. 0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:41.760 Before twenty twenty, it was illegal. Post twenty twenty, it 0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.359