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Speaker 2: It's night Side with Dan Ray.

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Speaker 3: Bradley j for Dan. In the eleven o'clock hour, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna tell some humorous presidential stories with Rich Rubino. Presidential

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Speaker 3: historian Ten o'clark will address the primary care position crisis.

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Speaker 3: Have you tried to find a primary care physician? It's

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Speaker 3: a nightmare. We're going to find out what's going on

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Speaker 3: with that. But right now we have Craig Fitzgerald, my

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Speaker 3: card guy.

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Speaker 4: How do you do?

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Speaker 5: I'm glad to be here with the legendary Radley Jay.

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Speaker 5: This is fantastic. Thank you, always a treat.

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Speaker 3: So Craig works with DCI Marketing, is a longtime automotive

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Speaker 3: writer and longtime friend of the show and friend of mine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we're here to talk about primarily, but we'll get

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Speaker 3: off this. But this is a big one, folks. How

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Speaker 3: do you like that auto stop start? You come up

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Speaker 3: to the stop sign. Gosh, that so like goes green?

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Speaker 3: The gas it goes Maybe it's kind of smooth, maybe

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Speaker 3: it's not. Maybe you wanted it, maybe you didn't. It

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Speaker 3: turns out that subsidies for that are gone, and maybe

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Speaker 3: after a while that will be gone. But we're gonna

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Speaker 3: talk about the pros and cons of that and how

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Speaker 3: how this situation came to be and all the ramifications

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Speaker 3: like is all that starting and stopping bad for your

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Speaker 3: battery or your starter? Are that other stuff? I know

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Speaker 3: people are concerned about that. We'll find we'll find out

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Speaker 3: the truth about that. But hello, Craig, tell me what's

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Speaker 3: going on when regarding this auto stop start.

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Speaker 2: Well, so this all came about when.

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Speaker 5: The Obama administration wanted to get us to fifty four

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Speaker 5: and a half miles per gallon corporate average, right, So

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Speaker 5: you know, Cadillac needs to get to fifty four and

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Speaker 5: a half miles per gallon average, and this was one

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Speaker 5: of the ways, one of the incremental ways that we

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Speaker 5: miles per gallon. So on its own, it doesn't save

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Speaker 5: a lot of fuel. However, what it does do is

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Speaker 5: cuts down on the idle time if you're in traffic.

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Speaker 5: If you're sitting on the Masspike, you know at eight

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Speaker 5: and go. Every time you stop. Ordinarily you just be idling, right,

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Speaker 5: So this stops idling. Basically, it shuts the car off.

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Speaker 5: Or you know, if you're waiting for your kid out

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Speaker 5: the heater going, the radio going, and it prevents you

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Speaker 5: from idling, which is a which is a net positive. However,

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Speaker 5: everybody hated this technology because some manufacturers really integrated it

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Speaker 5: well and you wouldn't really even notice that. The like

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Speaker 5: we were talking about your car, your Mazda.

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Speaker 2: Was it CX fifty?

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Speaker 2: Five?

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Speaker 5: So you said, I don't think my car has it.

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Speaker 5: I said, you know what, I.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it does.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to have to I'm gonna have to check

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Speaker 5: year though, I can't remember right year, right, so I

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Speaker 5: remember something like that, right, something like that. And by

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Speaker 5: that point pretty much everything had it. But if it's

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Speaker 5: And you notice it every single time you step on

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Speaker 5: So a lot of people will there's a defeat button,

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Speaker 5: right so it can actually turn it off, and yes

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Speaker 5: off the auto stops start. However, every time you shut

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Speaker 5: And you know, I think this last week, you know,

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Speaker 5: everybody kind of said, well, yeah, that's not such a

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Speaker 3: So my friends, I want to know how you feel

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Speaker 3: And the number is six one, seven, two, five, four,

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Speaker 5: Well, so this is the thing, like, like, I don't

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Speaker 5: think people and especially people in the current in the

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Speaker 5: current administration, don't understand how automobiles get developed. Right, So

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Speaker 5: cars are on a five year life cycle basically, So

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Speaker 5: so it looks different, it looks to you know, everything's

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Speaker 5: and those tend to last for above five years. The exterior,

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Speaker 5: Power trains, engines, transmissions, all that kind of stuff. The

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Speaker 5: life cycle on those things is about ten years. So

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Speaker 5: life cycle of that actually happening maybe five years down

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Speaker 5: I've been in this business for thirty years. I have

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Speaker 5: never seen, you know, year to year a really up

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Speaker 5: That I don't know where that number comes from, but

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Speaker 5: So economies of scale would tell you we've built seventeen

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Speaker 5: that that autostop start technology is part of. So I'll

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Speaker 5: technology because like think about it, you can't start your

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Speaker 2: So, and it's because you know you you you could you.

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Speaker 5: Know, cause transmission problems if you have an automatic transmission.

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Speaker 5: There's all kinds of issues why you don't want to

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Speaker 5: do that. This basically got right around that. And the

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Speaker 5: don't I've never heard I've never heard of this technology.

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Speaker 3: Seems like just one more thing to break. What do

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Speaker 3: you think, folks? Are you glad to would you like

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Speaker 2: People don't like it.

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Speaker 3: Why would they put something in the car people can't stand?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 3: Friends, We're with Craig withz Cherald talking cars and most

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Speaker 3: specifically we're talking about the auto start stop stop start

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Speaker 3: around the old wrecker barrel stove to talk to Paul

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Speaker 3: in East Bridgewater. Hi, Paul, you're on wb Z.

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Speaker 7: Good evening, Bradley. It's a pleasure to talk to you

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Speaker 7: and Craig. How are you guys doing tonight? Really good.

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Speaker 4: So I worked for a collision repair.

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Speaker 7: Facility for over forty years and unknowingly so we we

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Speaker 7: that that vehicle had that device on it. So when

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Speaker 7: all the vehicles now are obviously fewl injected, you know,

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Speaker 7: You know, it's you're not you know, you're not ready

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate to have my start, my stop start

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Speaker 5: So I've been on this for a long time, especially

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Speaker 4: And and yeah, the driver training needs to be more stringent.

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Speaker 7: And uh my god, if you live in Massachusetts, you've

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know you're here and what changing weather

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 5: I turned around like either smart that's okay, or an

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Speaker 3: If it started to spin, it's spun right around its

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Speaker 3: before we go, How how green are you? I'm trying

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Speaker 2: Will you pay that?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: Will you pay eight? Will you pay five? And I'm

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Speaker 3: guessing maybe people would pay two? What do you think? Okay,

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Speaker 2: My I would be willing to pay zero.

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Speaker 3: You're a pretty green guy.

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm a relatively environmentally conscious guy. However, my option

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Speaker 3: Okay, so so zero? How about you, folks? Would you

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Speaker 3: Bradley J for Dan on night Side with Craig Fitzgerald

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Speaker 3: having kind of a car party here. Six one, seven, two,

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Speaker 3: five for ten thirty is our number, and loosely, the

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: One seems to like it, subsidies for it, subsidy for

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Speaker 3: it is going away and I'm guessing everybody's gonna applaud that.

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Speaker 2: But who knows.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you like it and uh, Craig, you let's let's talk.

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Speaker 3: We should do a survey see who likes it. Well, okay,

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Speaker 3: we we will do that. Let's go first, Awayne in Kingston, Kingston.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, Wayne?

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Speaker 6: Hey, Bradley, how you doing? Hi, Craig, how are you today?

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Speaker 1: Wayne?

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Speaker 2: What's going on? My friend?

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Speaker 6: Not much?

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Speaker 4: Good to talk to you again.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 6: My first encounter with what was at the time, I

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 6: And that was one of the That was one of

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Speaker 4: You had to live with it.

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Speaker 8: That time I don't think they did.

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Speaker 4: We read and we enjoyed the car.

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Speaker 6: brake will engage to keep the vehicle from rolling anywhere.

440
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Speaker 4: Yep.

441
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 6: So thin is there is a slight lag when you

442
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 6: do do it for the break to release you to

443
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Speaker 6: get going forward. It's about like a about a half

444
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 6: a second, but you notice it and it's a little annoying,

445
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Speaker 6: So you know, I.

446
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Speaker 5: Love to tell you, right, I think it's I think, honestly,

447
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 5: like of all of the three Row SUVs, it's probably

448
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 5: the best one. And the twenty seven that's coming is unbelievable.

449
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 5: I mean, it's like it's like buying a Ranger Over

450
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 5: without the range Rover price tag.

451
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 6: But oh yeah, we totally enjoyed ours.

452
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 5: All of the technology that kind of like layers things,

453
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 5: layers complexity on top of complexity, like oh yeah, we're

454
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 5: gonna have auto stop start, and we're also going to

455
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 5: have the parking break engage automatically, and it's it's just like, okay, well,

456
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 5: that's that's all fine when the vehicle's like three years old.

457
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 5: But when it's ten years old and you've gone through

458
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 5: ten New England winters with it, I just I don't

459
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 5: know if I trust that. You know, it's it's that,

460
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 5: you know, it's it's those layers of complexity on top

461
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 5: of each other that's I think. Really, I wonder if

462
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Speaker 5: if we've battle tested this long enough to to really

463
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Speaker 5: you know, implement it the way that we have over

464
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Speaker 5: the last few years.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I totally agree with you on that.

466
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Speaker 6: And I'm still running the twenty ten toyot A round

467
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 6: four with two hundred and sixty thousand miles on it.

468
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 6: It's on its last leg now. And one of the

469
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 6: things happened was the TPMs sensors. One of the sensors went.

470
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 6: It's not all of them, and it's just so it's

471
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 6: worth it to replace them.

472
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: You guys in the weeds.

473
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 5: The tire pressure sensor is they're they're inside they actually

474
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 5: they're on the end of the air valve. And you know,

475
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 5: now they're relatively inexpensive to replace, but you got to

476
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 5: take the tire off and it's just becomes a whole thing.

477
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Speaker 3: So yeah, anything, Wayne, thank you so so very much.

478
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna do. You talked about drivers test.

479
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 3: I have a practice some practice questions for the drivers test.

480
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Speaker 2: Oh, here we go.

481
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Speaker 3: It seems ridiculously easy, like crazy easy. Yeah, maybe too easy?

482
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so this is this is the apartment right right?

483
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 4: Got it?

484
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 3: And approaching driver fails to gym there high beam headlights?

485
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: Where should you look at the wheels of the approaching vehicle?

486
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 3: But it doesn't give the correct answers. So that's no good.

487
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 2: Well, I know what the correct answer is.

488
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 3: Keep going at the at the wheels towards the right

489
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 3: side of the road, towards the left side of the road,

490
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Speaker 3: straight down the middle of the.

491
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Speaker 5: Road, right side of the road, and there's that white

492
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 5: line is called the fog line. And that's there, so

493
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Speaker 5: you know where the edge of the road is fog line,

494
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 5: fog line because white white, it just stands out and

495
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Speaker 5: it's and it's you know, opposite the yellow line in

496
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Speaker 5: the center.

497
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Speaker 3: That right there is worth the price of admission learning.

498
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Speaker 2: That is called the fog line.

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Speaker 3: There's oh, we we still have a couple of minutes here.

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Speaker 3: That's good. Before I go to James, one quick question

501
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Speaker 3: that Craig will not have the answer for it because

502
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Speaker 3: I ask it about every six months and we still

503
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Speaker 3: don't know the answer. And I'll ask all of this

504
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Speaker 3: to you and I if you if you know the

505
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Speaker 3: answer six one, seven, two five. You come up to

506
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Speaker 3: a stop light, it's a multi lane stop plate. The

507
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 3: one in the center, just a regular light. Go on

508
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 3: on the right is a red arrow?

509
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Speaker 1: Is it okay? Is it legal?

510
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 3: Expected and legal to turn right on a red arrow?

511
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: After stop or is it incumbent upon you to wait

512
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Speaker 3: for it to change?

513
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: Do you want an answer?

514
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: Hold on and there's people behind you beeping. The people

515
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: behind you think you should go, and the other you know,

516
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 3: fifty percent of people will stay. No one knows you

517
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: say you say, you know, Greg, you know. What we're

518
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: gonna do is tease that you. We'll get your answer

519
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: all right after the next break. But first it's James Invertmont.

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Speaker 3: How do you do James?

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Speaker 8: Good Bradley, j my old buddy from the rock of Boston.

522
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Speaker 4: How you doing very well?

523
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: Thank you, James?

524
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Speaker 4: How are you?

525
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Speaker 8: I'm doing it great? Hey, I like your comment sense

526
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 8: thinking about these cars. There's not allow of people to

527
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 8: think that way anymore. But I got I got a

528
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 8: few things to go by here on. I spent the

529
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Speaker 8: last thirty five years of my life wrenching on everything

530
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 8: from cars and trucks to construction the pharm machinery. So

531
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Speaker 8: if you want to go down the rabbit hole next show,

532
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 8: next time you're around, we can talk about all the

533
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 8: deef DPF REJO heart failure. We'll save that for another night,

534
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 8: and I can I have a lot of experience with

535
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 8: that business. But this whole auto start stop thing. Double

536
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 8: thumbs down on that, Okay, I believe it, thumbs down down.

537
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 8: And the other thing is, I believe that Germans were

538
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 8: the first ones to come out with that and their

539
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 8: cars what my wife drives, Gramma cars, you got to

540
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 8: BMW's and they all do it, and they've been doing

541
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 8: a lot longer the American cars have.

542
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 6: And now you know, all of the.

543
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 8: American vehicles right up to your trucks, your medium, you know,

544
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 8: your your halftime three quotes on one time. Pickup trucks

545
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 8: that have gas engines have the same thing. And to me,

546
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 8: it's a joke. You better have a tip top battery

547
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 8: on a hot summer day or this thing, or you're

548
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 8: going to be not very happy with your auto stopping

549
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 8: if you can't bypass it, because they you know, they

550
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 8: just it just draws and draws. I'd run into it.

551
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 8: I'd run In my business, We've got a fleet of

552
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 8: you know, gas pickups, you know, half tons to three

553
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 8: quota one ton, and and we run into the problem.

554
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 8: We have to keep watching our batteries and making sure

555
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 8: that one hundred percent and we end up you know,

556
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 8: with all it's triple a call. But there is a

557
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 8: there is an easy thing you can do to bypass

558
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 8: this and it's one hundred percent, say one hundred percent legal.

559
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 8: We found this out through one of my business by accident,

560
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 8: and it works all your American made I don't know

561
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 8: about the German, European stuff and the Japanese stuff yet,

562
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 8: but if you have an American made vehicle that comes

563
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 8: with the trailer plug from from the manufacturer, like you know,

564
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 8: to plug in your trailer lights, if you pull on

565
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 8: the trailer, if it comes from the factory with that

566
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Speaker 8: plant the plug on it, whether it be a seven

567
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 8: uh seven uh seven round r V plug or the

568
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 8: four prong flat. You can go to an autopart store,

569
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 8: trailer supply store, maybe even Walmart or try to supply

570
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 8: somebody's like that. You can buy what's called the test

571
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 8: plug and it's designed to to plug into your plug

572
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 8: to test your trail lights. Make sure, yeah, if you

573
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 8: buy that the four all you need is the four

574
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 8: prong flat one. It's three to five bucks. Anywhere you

575
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 8: plug that in, it tricks your vehicle to thinking you

576
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 8: have a trailer on it. You have a trailer on it.

577
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 8: It automatically disables your auto start because.

578
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Speaker 4: It works.

579
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 5: I have it all my vehicles, all right, I will,

580
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 5: I will, you know what, I'm going to go buy

581
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 5: a couple of those things, and you know, I'm going

582
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 5: to try it, uh going forward and see, you know

583
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 5: if it works on any of the German and Japanese

584
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 5: vehicles too.

585
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 8: I know, I'd like to know that you have to

586
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 8: have the factory installed, uh you know, trailer to sure.

587
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: Sure.

588
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, most of the stuff that that shows up

589
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 5: with me it has a factory of harness on it.

590
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's great. Interesting, before you go, James, how

591
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: much how much would you be willing to pay for

592
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: an extremely ecologically friendly car?

593
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: How much more?

594
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 4: Zero?

595
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 8: What I'm finding, Well, I'm gonna just tell you quickly,

596
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 8: what I'm finding is based on all the hundreds of

597
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 8: vehicles I'm brimming over. The is from muscle cars to

598
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 8: late model stuff, the brand new d the pickups. I

599
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 8: honestly think a lot of the ecological friendly cars could

600
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 8: be a lot more ecological from it took a lot

601
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 8: of the crap off of it. And then we'll we'll

602
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 8: find that out when you talk. If Craig wants Craig

603
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 8: wants to get into this DPF Regen stuff on the diesels.

604
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 8: I think you're gonna find out the truth of that matter.

605
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: I think, what's that I'm gonna have to go?

606
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 4: Thank you, I would go.

607
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 8: I would not pay anymore. I think.

608
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 7: Uh.

609
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 8: I think if I was gonna buy one, it'd be

610
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 8: a not a plug in hybrid, but it would be

611
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 8: a hybrid. I think that's the best thing.

612
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: All right, Okay, great call, thanks man. Okay, after this,

613
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: we're gonna get Craig Fitzgerald, the car Guy, my car

614
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: guys opinion. I think it's an opinion right on whether

615
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 3: or not it's okay to turn right on a red

616
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: arrow after stop. Next on wb Z, It's.

617
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Speaker 2: Night Side with.

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Speaker 1: Boston's news radio, Bradley J.

619
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Speaker 3: For Dan with car Guy Craig, and we promised we're

620
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: going to tell you whether or not it's legal to

621
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 3: make a right turn on red arrow. But Alex has

622
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: been on pol free long time, so I'm going to

623
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Speaker 3: do him the solid and go right to him and

624
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: then we'll share that. Hi, Alex, how are you doing?

625
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 9: Hey Bradley, Hey Greig. Alex was going to say first,

626
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 9: first off, I was gonna mention that the best cause

627
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 9: on the planet are subar rus and toyotas you know,

628
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 9: most some people might disagree with me here, I've always

629
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 9: you know, yeah, and then I was gonna mentioned, no,

630
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 9: I'm not I'm not a fan of the stuff. Start.

631
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 9: What I wanted to ask is why we have so

632
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 9: many crashes with the technology we have, so it's always

633
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 9: human error. But I was always taught, you know, at

634
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 9: that job that I used to work at, uh, you know,

635
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 9: they gave us, uh you know, some some different type

636
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 9: of training. So they would say, use a triangular method,

637
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 9: which is you look like like it says, a triangle,

638
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 9: so you would go to the left, look in the middle,

639
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 9: and look to your right. And also as the thing

640
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 9: was that they mentioned was aimed high and steering, so

641
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 9: you would look at as far as your vision would

642
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 9: you know, would allow you to see, you know, so

643
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 9: you can you can actually avoid most crashes, you know,

644
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 9: if if you're not distracted. But I think it's all

645
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 9: human error because you know, I know, these cars, the

646
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 9: new cars, all have the technology, but we still have

647
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 9: so many, you know, so many accidents.

648
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 5: Distraction is a huge problem, huge problem. And it's not

649
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 5: I mean, I I know that you know, mobile phones

650
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 5: are you know, that's kind of what everybody's focused on,

651
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 5: you know, as far as distraction goes. But distraction is

652
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 5: more than that. It's it's you know, eating a bowl

653
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 5: of soup behind the wheel, which I've seen before.

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00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 2: Can we spoken?

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00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 5: We have the ass drop in your left and and uh,

656
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 5: you know, the the infotainments on some of these cars

657
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 5: are so complicated now that you don't know how to

658
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Speaker 5: tune the radio anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's like that's all action.

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Speaker 5: So now what's happened is we have built a lot

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Speaker 5: of technology into these cars to replace your lack of attention.

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00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 5: So you know, auto emergency braking is one of those technologies.

663
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 5: It's a good technology and it's actually working right, so

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Speaker 5: it's just not the problem with like a lot of

665
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 5: these technologies is that it takes a while to really

666
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 5: see what the effect is because the technology comes in.

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00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 5: You know, sixteen million new cars have it, but there's

668
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 5: one hundred million cars on the road that don't. So

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Speaker 5: it takes a while for those technologies to really make

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Speaker 5: a difference. But that technology in particular that will apply

671
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 5: them apply the brakes and bring the car to a

672
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 5: stop if you are not paying attention. That technology is

673
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 5: saved in people's lives. Absolutely, it's a great technology and

674
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 5: and so. But however, I am also with you that

675
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 5: people need to understand they need to be looking further

676
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 5: down the road and they need to be looking for

677
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 5: an exit if if things go bad, right, so you

678
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 5: need to be looking for where I can turn to

679
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 5: get away from this situation in front of me. And

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00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 5: a lot of people are not doing that. So yeah,

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00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 5: driver's ed is a huge thing, and like it's we're

682
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 5: just not doing a good job with it in general

683
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 5: in this country. Thanks Alex, Yeah, thanks Alex. That's a

684
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 5: good call.

685
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 3: Drum roll please, do we have a drumm roll? No,

686
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: we don't have a drum roll? Okay, So here's the answer.

687
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 3: This is the answer according to Craig's son who recently

688
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 3: took the driver test, and I hope you got it right.

689
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: He did, Okay. The question is is it legal to

690
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: take a right turn on a red arrow? No, it

691
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 3: is not. Okay.

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00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 5: That is known as a protective red and you are

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00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 5: supposed to stay stopped at that arrow until it turns green.

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00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: So the listen here is when there are people beeping

695
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 3: behind you, you do not need to feel bad. You

696
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 3: can stand pat and know you are correct and that

697
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: you would be breaking the r and subject to getting

698
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: fine and having your insurance go up if you get

699
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 3: out into traffic. Don't let these people behind you.

700
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: You don't want to be bullied.

701
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 3: Don't let them bully you. And as a matter of fact,

702
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 3: these folks peeping their own need to be educated.

703
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 5: You know what would be nice is if you know,

705
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 5: along with the protected bread, they had a sign that says,

706
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 5: you know, don't turn right on red, just for the

707
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 5: people behind you, you know, so that they would know.

708
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 5: But because you know, I do understand that, like people

709
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 5: can't see the situation in front of you, they're trying

710
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 5: to make decisions based on what they can't see. But

711
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 5: you know, it would be nice to have the sign.

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00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: There always another thing people besides driving distracted leave fifteen

713
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: minutes earlier. Yeah for crying out loud. Yeah so you

714
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 3: don't get all jammed up and have to blow through

715
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 3: stop science. Yep, okay, you spoke about distracted driving. True story.

716
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 3: This is unbelievable. And back in college the University of

717
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: New Hampshire, I lived in Newmarket, New Hampshire and had

718
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: a girlfriend who had a Toyota. Was there a B

719
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 3: six or something a Toyota.

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00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 5: There was a dots in B two town, Okay, maybe

721
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 5: it was that, yep, B six okay something.

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00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 3: Anyway, speaking of justsdriving distracted driving, she would read a

723
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: book yep while driving? Is that you've heard of?

724
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 5: I saw when I used to drive one twenty eight.

725
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 5: Every day I would see things that I never I

726
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 5: saw a guy playing a trumpet. One time behind the wheel,

727
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 5: I saw people reading the newspaper with the like the

728
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 5: Boston Globe fully open on the steering wheel.

729
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: In front of them, like what are you doing? You know?

730
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 5: And they'd be in the slow lane like, oh, it's okay,

731
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 5: I'm over here. You know, I'm going slower than the

732
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 5: flow of traffic reading the sports section. You wonder how

733
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 5: people get that way?

734
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: The same kind of thing is how do people think

736
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: it's okay to take the dog number two bag and

737
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 3: use it, fill it and then throw the bag on

738
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: the on the ground. Yea, those people, the people driving

739
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: with a newspaper open, they went to the same the

740
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: same type of parents.

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00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 5: You see a lot of people who actually hang it

742
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 5: off the rear wiper on their vehicle and leave it

743
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 5: there for like the entire winter. Like I I can't

744
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 5: stand like something in the cup holder, let alone a

745
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 5: bag of feces on the on.

746
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Speaker 2: The back of the car.

747
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 3: So you know, we'll get to Jane in a moment

748
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: we talked about. Alex brought up safety and when it

749
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: comes to safety, I I am, well, I kind of

750
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: push for automated enforcement, right, and I see the governors

751
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 3: kind of pushing for it too, And I would think

752
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: that you, I don't know why you would be against it,

753
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 3: just don't blow the stop light, you know, behave yourself.

754
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: The only reason I can see you'd be against automated

755
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: enforcement would be if unless you intend to break the law.

756
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Speaker 3: So my.

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Speaker 5: My position against this is softening has long been. We

758
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 5: have opened the floodgates on privacy invasion over the last

759
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 5: number of years, and I don't like it. Right, there's

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Speaker 5: cameras everywhere, cameras.

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Speaker 3: Everywhere, and they use it pretty much, almost use the

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Speaker 3: cameras they have.

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Speaker 2: Right, right.

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Speaker 5: So my other issue is that they are often wrong

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00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 5: that they are writing tickets to people who don't necessarily deserve.

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Speaker 5: They know they're it depends on who the ven there is,

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00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 5: who how you know, the who the municipality is whether

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00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 5: or not they want to like, you know, are they

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Speaker 5: are they relatively lenient or are they the.

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Speaker 3: Governor is suggesting eleven miles uh at a higher rate

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00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: of speed, eleven miles over the speed limit, and at

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00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 3: a lower speed a lower amount over the speed limit,

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00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: like maybe like a percentage kind of thing, but on

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00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 3: the upper level will be eleven miles.

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Speaker 2: Here's here's why.

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Speaker 5: Here's why my position is softening slightly. I think people

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00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 5: are starting to look at red lights like they're optional now,

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00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 5: and people are going to get killed because there's no enforcement.

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00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 5: The you know, I I go up to an intersection

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Speaker 5: in the morning.

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Speaker 2: You know what we have to break?

782
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Got it.

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Speaker 3: It's WBZ News Radio ten thirty