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Speaker 1: They say, the hardest thing in sports isn't winning a title.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to repeat seasons. It's winning it again.

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Speaker 3: This year is not trying to win a championship, They're

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Speaker 3: trying to repeat.

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Speaker 1: It's October baseball for your world champion in La Dodger.

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Speaker 3: The twenty twenty five Dodgers are the National Leagues Western

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Speaker 3: Division champions and you know what that means.

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Speaker 1: This is Saxon Kates in the Morning with Tim Kates

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Speaker 1: and former world champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

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Speaker 1: Now Here they are on AM five to seventy LA

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Speaker 2: Steve Sacks, Tim Kates.

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Speaker 1: Tim Kates and world Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

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Speaker 2: It's l Zilla Day here on a F five seventy

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Speaker 2: LA Sports, Tim Kats, Steve Sason, You live and local

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Speaker 2: on your home of the Dodgers, AM FI seventy LA Sports.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us on this Monday morning, October

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Speaker 2: sixth as you make your way to work, sitting in traffic,

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Speaker 2: we appreciate you taking us with you as you make

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Speaker 2: your way around southern California. As we lead you up

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Speaker 2: to Game two in the National League Divisional Series Dodgers

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Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. Blake Snell, Hey suss Lozardo, pair of left

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Speaker 2: handers will go at it in Game two, coming up

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Speaker 2: at three oh eight right here on AFI seventy LAS Sports.

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers get a Game one win the thanks to

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Speaker 2: Taoscar Hernandez three run home run and six solid innings

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Speaker 2: from Show Hey O'tani. Now Show Hey Otani will become

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Speaker 2: the dh the rest of this series. If there's a

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Speaker 2: Game five, of course he'll be back. Bud. Let's hope

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers can take care of business before that Game two.

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Speaker 2: With Black Snell on the mound coming up at three eights,

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Speaker 2: we'll have Rick Monday joining us in about twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: We'll get Steve's keys to a game two way. But

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Speaker 2: I'm starting to get fired up about Blake Snell being

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Speaker 2: on the mound. This is why they got him for October.

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Speaker 2: Steve Sacks, he battled through injuries. He missed multiple months

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Speaker 2: because of his shoulder inflammation. He has worked his way

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Speaker 2: back and at just the right time they got him

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Speaker 2: for October. He's been there before. The Dodgers saw him

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Speaker 2: in the World Series in twenty twenty when he was

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Speaker 2: pitching for the Tampa Bay Rays. And there's no doubt

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Speaker 2: when Blake Snell turns into snake Zilla, just like Michael J.

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Speaker 2: Fox turned into the Wolf and teen Wolf, he has

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Speaker 2: a different pitcher.

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Speaker 4: On the mound. Yeah, and you know he's one of

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Speaker 4: a quartet. If you look at this Snell, Yamamoto, Glasnow

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Speaker 4: and Otani, you're talking about four guys that can just

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Speaker 4: shut you down right out of the gate. All four

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Speaker 4: guys have wicked stuff. I wouldn't want to be the

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Speaker 4: opposition facing those starters alone. Forget about what the offense

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Speaker 4: and the defense can do.

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Speaker 4: These starting pitchers right here are for the best. They're

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Speaker 4: completely professional. I mean, these guys have been tested before.

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Speaker 4: It's not like you're you got some great talent and

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Speaker 4: you're gonna go out there and see what he can do.

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Speaker 4: These guys have already proved it, and these guys got

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Speaker 4: some wicked stuff out there. I wouldn't want to be

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Speaker 2: Plake Snell already want to know with a two fifty

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Speaker 2: seven era in this postseason, of course, he got the

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Speaker 2: start against Cincinnati in the Game one opener of the

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Speaker 2: Wildcard Round. Within the seven innings a lot of two

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Speaker 2: runs on four hits while striking out nine along the way,

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Speaker 2: there was question of what he'd be the Game one starter,

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Speaker 2: or would it be Yoshinoba Yamamoto. He got the start

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Speaker 2: in Game one of the Wildcard Round, and here he

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Speaker 2: is getting the start in Game two against the Philadelphia Phillies,

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Speaker 2: the team he saw just a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 2: at Dodger Stadium, where he threw seven shutout innings, scattered

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Speaker 5: I like, I've always had like a knack for just

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Speaker 5: to just become better and to be consistent longer. I

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Speaker 5: like how much he's confident when he comes out of

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Speaker 5: he's fearless. It's a it's a different rookie. The starter

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Speaker 5: And now he's going out there, he's more confident in

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Speaker 5: And the team's really behind him and pushing and he's

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Speaker 5: coming out just extremely confident and it's so much fun

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Speaker 5: to watch him pitch that way. No, I mean, this

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Speaker 5: have energy, and no, it's I can't wait to pitch

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Speaker 2: Right, there's Blake Snell and one thing Blake Snell has

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Speaker 2: done for this Dodgers team since coming back off the

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Speaker 2: injured list, where he spent four months. By the way

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Speaker 2: he went on the injured list April second, came back

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Speaker 2: on August second, is he has given him length, and

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Speaker 2: he has given him a lot of pitches. He's gone

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Speaker 2: over one hundred pitches twice in the month of September.

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Speaker 2: He's gone no less than ninety pitches in all four

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Speaker 2: he threw ninety one pitches over seven innings against the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Reds. But the one thing about Blake Snell, he

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Speaker 2: sometimes has some control issues and not necessarily walking four, five,

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Speaker 2: six guys and he'll walk back, there's no doubt. But

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Speaker 2: he'll go deep into counts Steve, he'll go to two,

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Speaker 2: three to two in account before finishing off a hitter,

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Speaker 2: and next thing you know, you look up and he's,

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Speaker 2: you know, twenty two pitches in the inning. But he

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Speaker 2: didn't give up a run. He give up maybe a hit,

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Speaker 2: maybe a walk, but it's twenty two pitches that he

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Speaker 2: I don't want to see the Blake Snell going deep

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Speaker 2: doing this with this Phillies team tonight. The back of

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Speaker 2: my mind, I started wondering, they're gonna get to him

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Speaker 2: like to see the Blake Snell go out and attack, attack,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so that's a perfect remedy to beat this team.

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Speaker 4: As you saw with Otani, these guys take a lot

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Speaker 4: of pitches. They believe in they believe in that that

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Speaker 4: that old adage, you know, if you take a lot

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Speaker 4: have been Ellis with the Dodgers, the Dodger catcher, and

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Speaker 4: they were talking about how great it was that he,

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Speaker 4: good thing? I mean, really, how many pitches did you take? When?

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Speaker 4: What did he hit? He you know, to twenty two thirty? Well,

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Speaker 4: you know, why is an advantage to take so many pitches?

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Speaker 4: To me that what you're saying is you've taken a

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Speaker 4: lot of pitches down the middle that you could have crushed,

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Speaker 4: you know. I mean, there's no listen if the pitcher

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Speaker 4: you something to hit. I'm all for taking pitches, go

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Speaker 4: three two on every count, foul off twenty pitches. I'm

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Speaker 4: all for that one hundred percent. What I'm not for

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Speaker 4: is to go deep in the count just and take

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Speaker 4: two fastballs right down the middle, just to go deep

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Speaker 4: in the count. I think that's completely wrong. I don't

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Speaker 4: know anybody that walked himself into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: Guys who are up there to barrel it up and

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Speaker 4: to go deep in the count, oh well, but if

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Speaker 4: you don't go deep in the count, that's fine too.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be up there, you know, just looking forward

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Speaker 4: to go forward, to go deep in the count. So

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Speaker 4: Blake Snell attack these guys. They take a lot of pitches,

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Speaker 4: and it's look at the splits, tim When a pitcher

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Speaker 4: Then if it's the other way if it's two zero

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Speaker 4: way in the hitter's advantage. So get ahead of these guys,

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Speaker 4: challenge them. They want to take pitches on you, let

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Speaker 2: The team that Snell faced last week the Cincinnati Reads

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Speaker 2: Young Team, Swing happy team, Swing early in the count team,

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Speaker 2: and he got early outs one pitch out, two pitch out,

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Speaker 2: problem is, as you mentioned, this is a Phillies team

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Speaker 2: that likes to take pitch So getting ahead is huge

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Speaker 2: for Blake Snell to get strike one early in the count.

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Speaker 2: As the game went along against the Reds, then they

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Speaker 2: started taking more pitches that first time around did Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: and he fell behind two to zero in account. He

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Speaker 2: fell behind two to one in account again. Blake Snell

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Speaker 2: dominant pitcher when he's on, He's got the nasty swinging

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Speaker 2: miss stuff that we know he has. I just want

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Speaker 2: to make sure Blake Snell tonight isn't isn't expecting swinging

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Speaker 2: missus on his pitches out of the zone. And I

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Speaker 2: know he knows that, but in my mind, I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: this is a different team. This is a different approach.

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Speaker 2: This isn't the Reds that are going to swing at

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Speaker 2: a pitch that bounces in the dirt. And when he

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Speaker 2: walked off the field of him and Ben Rart, if

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Speaker 2: that were laughing about how he fooledn't want to pitch

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Speaker 2: that was, you know, fifty eight feet instead of sixty

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Speaker 2: feet six inches. This is a different Phillies team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Here's another thing I may say on the next

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Speaker 4: kind of level of this is that Blake's Snell stuff

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Speaker 4: is so good. Look, he could still hit the plate.

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Speaker 4: He could i mean hit strike zones, hit even meaty

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Speaker 4: parts of the strike zone and still be very successful.

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Speaker 4: His curveball, He's gonna change the angle that hitter. He's

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Speaker 4: it breaks so much those types of things. He'll get

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Speaker 4: those strikes, especially early in the count when guys are

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Speaker 4: get me over curveball. Many many times the hitter's not

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Speaker 4: going to swing at it because he's gonna get fooled

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Speaker 4: and he's gonna take it just such a split second

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Speaker 4: that he's gonna take it and it's going to be

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Speaker 4: a strike. It's a great way to get strike one

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Speaker 4: and be ahead on the count. So you know we're

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Speaker 4: not saying don't. Hey, Look, he's got to fill up

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Speaker 4: the strike zone. His stuff is so good that he

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Speaker 2: this NLDS eight six six nine eighty seven two five seventy.

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Speaker 2: good morning.

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Speaker 3: You left out the one really great thing I was

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Good morning, guys, good morning, thanks for coming

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Rick, good to be with you today. And I

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Speaker 4: ditch early, I think Snell is the kind of guy

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Speaker 4: that can wipe these guys out. I think if he

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Speaker 4: fills up the strike zone and they're going to take

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Speaker 4: that approach to him, that's all plus for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: I was wanted to get your take as a hitter

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Speaker 4: on how this could be advantageous for Blake Jewel.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think, Steve, that's a great that's a

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Speaker 3: great point to bring up. But I would go back

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Speaker 3: to what Dave Roberts is talking about when asked about

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Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Phillies. He's not giving up, you know, insigne information,

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Speaker 3: but he said, hey, look if you look at the

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Speaker 3: Phillies overall, they are a very aggressive hitting team. That's

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Speaker 3: the way that they go. They like to swing the

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Speaker 3: bat early in account if they can. And this is

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Speaker 3: a matchup guys that we looked at two weeks ago

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Speaker 3: at Naga Stadium on September seventeenth, it was Snelled Againstlizardo

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Speaker 3: Lizard to pitch well, not well enough. He went seven,

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Speaker 3: four runs, gave up a home run to Freddie Freeman

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Speaker 3: and also to show Hey O Kanni. But the Dodgers

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Speaker 3: up until that point really kind of struggled. And for

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Speaker 3: Blake Snell, he's been outstanding the last two starts in

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Speaker 3: that matchup again against Lozardo two weeks ago when seven

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Speaker 3: innings did not allow a single run and came up

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Speaker 3: with two hits and that struck out twelve, and he

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Speaker 3: struck out the twelve because the Phillies kept chasing the

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Speaker 3: changeup Rick.

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Speaker 2: Looking at this Dodgers' bullpen, it looks completely different than

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Speaker 2: it did two weeks ago. Certainly when you got guys

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Speaker 2: like Tyler Glass now and now available in Clayton Kershaw there,

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Speaker 2: it looks different because you've got different arms down there.

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Speaker 2: But the guys that are back there, back into the

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Speaker 2: road to the bullpen, like Blake Trin and Alex Vassia

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Speaker 2: and now Rookie Sasaki. What do you make of Sasaki?

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Speaker 2: The one you saw back at the start of the

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Speaker 2: season in Japan, looking up at the radar gun after

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Speaker 2: every single pitch on the scoreboard to the Sasaki you

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Speaker 2: see now closing out games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like you went from Japan all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, too an outing before getting to Philadelphia, and

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Speaker 3: the rest is kind of where the heck did he go? Well,

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Speaker 3: he had a shoulder, got that taken care of. He

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Speaker 3: has now become a breath of fresh air. And I

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Speaker 3: think maybe a motivation for the rest of the guys

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Speaker 3: in the bullpen. If we look at the bullpen against

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Speaker 3: the Phillies coming to the series, the starting pitching this

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Speaker 3: year against Philadelphia had done an excellent job. The bullpen

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Speaker 3: not so great, But that's kind of turned around. I

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Speaker 3: really look at this Dodger ball club right now, guys,

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Speaker 3: as a team that is kind of playing up to

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Speaker 3: its capabilities. We didn't see that for a period of time.

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Speaker 3: We wonder where this good ball club went. Now they're

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Speaker 3: playing their best baseball and they have to because there's

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Speaker 3: only what eight teams left. Only one of the eight

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Speaker 3: is going to be the world champions. Dodgers would like

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Speaker 3: to make it back to back years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, Rick, looking at the state of this team

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Speaker 4: right now, and it's pitching staff compared to last year.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is a night and day difference trying

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Speaker 4: to piece together that pitching staff, the starters, and this

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Speaker 4: year they have an abundance of guys that are clicking

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Speaker 4: on all cylinders. You take that and the fact that

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Speaker 4: Clayton Kershaw is going to have his presence down there

494
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Speaker 4: in the bullpen, which a little bit shaky lately, but

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Speaker 4: making their way back. I think Clayton makes a big

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Speaker 4: difference down there in the bullpen just being there and

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Speaker 4: the starters being what they are. I think the Dodgers

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Speaker 4: in a great situation right now.

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Speaker 3: I agree, And it's a wonderful it's a wonderful problem

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Speaker 3: for the Dodger ball club right now. The way the

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Speaker 3: starting pitch he has really to say, it's risen to

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Speaker 3: the surface is crazy because they're just going lights out. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think that can be a trickle down effect. And

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Speaker 3: especially when he got Kershaw kind of a even if

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Speaker 3: he doesn't throw in the ballgame tonight, he's such a

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Speaker 3: settling influence because the guys are looking at him as

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Speaker 3: a stilik. Here's a guy that's done everything in his career,

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Speaker 3: He's going to go into Cooper's town, the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 3: and yet he's a giving of it himself being the

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Speaker 3: bullpen in a hostile environment in Philadelphia. I think that's

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Speaker 3: kind of leading the way of making a huge statement

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Speaker 3: that the rest of the guys in the bullpen look

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Speaker 3: up and respect him, and that can motivate them. In

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Speaker 3: my mind, Rick, what do.

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Speaker 2: You do at ketcher tonight? If you're Dave Roberts, does

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Speaker 2: Will Smith get a return back behind the plane or

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Speaker 2: do you stick with Ben Roardvett who's done a really

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Speaker 2: good job defensively with Will Smith out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kim, good question. I think the biggest question is

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Speaker 3: how did Will Smith feel after coming into the ballgame

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Speaker 3: as a pension or staying in the game as a

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Speaker 3: catcher in game one of the series that was on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: The doctors did work out yesterday. The encouraging thing that

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Speaker 3: I've noticed with Will Smith and Steve you can understand

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Speaker 3: this too. You've got a fractured right hand is getting

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Speaker 3: better Will Smith. When I've watched him, he has not

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Speaker 3: had his hand taped up. To me, that's a very

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Speaker 3: good sign because it shows that either either the discomfort

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Speaker 3: is tolerable or the discomfort has for the most part

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Speaker 3: even gone away. Because if you're hurting, Steve, you understand

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Speaker 3: as well. Tim you too when you were playing. If

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Speaker 3: you're hurting, you're going to tape it up for a

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Speaker 3: little added protection. That's not something we've seen so far.

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Speaker 3: I've not seen the lineup yet, that's not been sent

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Speaker 3: to us. But the big question is how does Will

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Speaker 3: Smith feel? And I think if he's feeling okay, he

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Speaker 3: might be back in there quick, very quickly. About Rug

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Speaker 3: that he has done an amazing job in coming in

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Speaker 3: and filling in for Will Smith, and the way that

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Speaker 3: he has also kind of guided the pitching staff in

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Speaker 3: a short period of time has been remarkable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he absolutely right, Reck he has been all over

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Speaker 4: that in just that defensive posture that he's given this team.

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Speaker 4: It's been amazing. Rick. Last one for me, I wanted

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Speaker 4: to ask you. You know, show Hey had a tough

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Speaker 4: day at the plate. You know what, I look at

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Speaker 4: this as big deal Sanchez. I mean, he really pitched

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Speaker 4: his tail off against show Hey. We kind of saw

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Speaker 4: this in the first game with Max Munsey. You know,

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Speaker 4: he didn't have a good game either, But this team

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Speaker 4: is built where you know, you don't even notice it,

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Speaker 4: you know, show he didn't have a good game yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Months he didn't have a good game the first day.

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Speaker 4: So what I mean, we have other guys on this

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Speaker 4: team that can carry the mail, and that's what it's

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Speaker 4: all about. Not everybody's gonna shine on every day, but boy,

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Speaker 4: these guys can come back with a vengeance. And Munsey

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Speaker 4: had a much better game in the second day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think with Oughtani, Tis Steves, we're going to

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Speaker 3: find out. With Lozardo who has a very good change

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Speaker 3: up off speed pitch, and that's what they threw to Otani.

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Speaker 3: With Sanchez in Game one, a lot of change ups

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Speaker 3: to begin with, we're going to find out. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you guys saw this this line or not.

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Speaker 3: With the Tani pitching and the designated hitter, first time

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Speaker 3: that's happened in postseason played Major League Baseball history. But

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Speaker 3: I thought Bill Plunkett, the Orange County Register had had

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Speaker 3: really the line coming in knowing that Otani was going

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Speaker 3: to pitch NBA the DH, he said it's time for

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Speaker 3: Superman to put on his cape. Well, Superman put on

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Speaker 3: the cape. From a pitching standpoint, every time Otonic comes

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Speaker 3: to the home plate or steps on the field, nobody

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Speaker 3: takes their eyes off of him, guys, because we're seeing

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Speaker 3: history every time potentially it gets to home plate.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll find out if the Dodgers come back home

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Speaker 2: with a two to ohero series lead later on this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Rick will be on the call with Stephen Nelson while

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Speaker 2: Morago Casino Dodgers on deck in. It all started at

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Speaker 2: two o'clock Pacific. First pitch at three Toho eight Blake

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Speaker 2: Snell and heyesus Lzardo the pitching matchup. Well, really appreciate

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Speaker 2: you coming on this morning, and let's hopefully it's a

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Speaker 2: happy flight home for the Dodgers tonight after this game too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be a later rival. Dodgers could

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Speaker 3: care less if it is a happy flight. They say, well, guys,

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Speaker 3: thanks correct.

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Speaker 2: All right, there goes the great Rick Monday, who will

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Speaker 2: be on the call later on this afternoon, as the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers will head it back home middle of the night,

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Speaker 2: day off tomorrow and then Game three on Wednesday, and

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Speaker 2: we'll see if it's the potential closeout game for the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers as they look to go up two games to nothing.

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Speaker 2: In this best of five series. Yeah, I have to

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Speaker 2: imagine zero for four, three strikeouts not gonna happen again

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Speaker 2: for show Aotani. Not to say that he's gonna go

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Speaker 2: off and have a monster night to play, but certainly

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Speaker 2: we're gonna see a better production and a better at bats.

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Speaker 2: I would assume now that he's just the design ate

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Speaker 2: ditor tonight. But you know what's funny, Steve, People keep

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Speaker 2: thinking about that nobody's ever hit and pitched in the

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Speaker 2: same game before, not certainly the level that Showe Aotani

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Speaker 2: is doing it. But didn't the nationally pitchers used to

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Speaker 2: hit for themselves up until just a few years ago,

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Speaker 2: and that all.

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Speaker 4: Changed absolutely, Tim, you nailed it. Yeah, yeah, they did

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Speaker 4: it all the time. I mean now now it's a

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Speaker 4: it's a different story. But I guess you could say

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Speaker 4: they were relevant hitters not very long. Some guys could hit,

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Speaker 4: you know, there were a few guys can hit, you know.

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Speaker 4: The main thing they had to do effectively was to bunt.

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Speaker 4: They could be effective that way. But it's different now,

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Speaker 4: especially with shoe Otani is you know, the best hitter

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Speaker 4: and he's you know, the best pitcher, So you got

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Speaker 4: all that wrapped up in one guy. I think you're

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Speaker 4: gonna see a different hitter at the plate tonight. I

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Speaker 4: think he's gonna forget all that stuff about guessing and whatnot.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be on time with the number one and

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Speaker 4: he'll change to everything else. That's that's his approach, and

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Speaker 4: I think he'll be on it tonight.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break, we'll come back, we'll wrap things

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Speaker 2: up with Steve's keys for a game to win. Hand

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Speaker 2: things off to Colin Coward. Don't forget the early start

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Speaker 2: means early Rogan and Rodney. Yes, they'll start at eleven

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Speaker 2: o'clock this morning and then hand things off to Petro

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Speaker 2: some money. He will be flexed back from two or

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Speaker 2: noon until two leading up to Morongo Casino. Dodgers on

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Speaker 2: deck and early start. Dodger fans buckle up three Toho

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Speaker 2: eight first pitch as the Dodgers look to get after

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Speaker 2: hayesus Lozardo and this Phillies bullpen as Lozardo making his

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Speaker 2: third start against the Dodgers, this time this season. He's

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Speaker 2: gone seven innings and both his previous two start starts

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Speaker 2: in April and just a few weeks ago at Dodgers Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Dodgers have had the Phillies top three hitters one eleven

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Speaker 2: six strikeouts in Game one. Can that continue? We'll find

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Speaker 2: out with first pitch of three oh eight Steve's Keys

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Speaker 2: next right here on ANTI seventy il I Sports. Ah,

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Speaker 2: you hear the walk up song from Freddie Freeman. Hopefully

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Speaker 2: the Dodger first baseman could get it going big tonight

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Speaker 2: for the Dodgers. He had a home run against Hey

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Speaker 2: Suis Lazardo last time the Dodgers faced the left hander

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Speaker 2: at Dodger Stadium. Game two. The Nlts coming up right

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Speaker 2: here on NFI seventy LA Sports had three to eight

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. Tim Kates along with two time World Series

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Speaker 2: champs Steve Sacks, sax and Kate's and the am as

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers a one to zero series lead. You know,

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Speaker 2: I love the MLB Network and what they do all

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Speaker 2: day and night, whether it's the uh, the the company. Oh,

647
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: it's it's so good. It's so good. And Mark de

648
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: Rosa has really become one of the best studio analysts

649
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: out there. I know he managed Team USA in the

650
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: World Baseball Classic in twenty twenty three, and I think

651
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: he's set to do it again next time around. He

652
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: does these breakdowns on this giant monitor behind him, and

653
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: it is impressive to see the breakdown. As a hitter,

654
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: he was just spotlighting sho hey Otani and the difference

655
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: in lawnch aangle. But when he's above thirty five degrees

656
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: and below thirty five degrees as far as the percentage

657
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: and in the launch angle, it's it's amazing that baseball

658
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: it's a numbers game. And to see how it's broken

659
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: down so minute now, Steve is, it's pretty unbelievable. Good

660
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: and bad. I get it. There's there's good you can

661
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: take away from all this minute information and there's bad

662
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: you can take about you know from it too much.

663
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: You know, oversight and thinking is one thing. But I

664
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Speaker 2: just I love the job he does, and it's this

665
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: is my favorite time of the year, Steve sec Not

666
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: only I get to talk with you, but it's baseball

667
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: all day.

668
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: Lot Mark does a great, great job on MLB Network Radio.

669
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 4: He does he's got it all figured out, and that

670
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: that backdrop they have right there really suits well and

671
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 4: it gives it gives the viewership a chance to really

672
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: see it and you know they can understand it. And

673
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: that's the thing I think you got to get passed

674
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 4: through all the numbers and whatnot and crunching this, and

675
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 4: that is is being able to just take it and

676
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: understand what it is. And now I think he does

677
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 4: a great job at that.

678
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: I love what Oral Herscheizer is on sports in at

679
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: LA describing the spray pattern as he calls it him. Yeah,

680
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: maybe that is a picture lingo, but it's straight charts.

681
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd been around for a while.

682
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a term new to me. But I love

683
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: how he uses that that spray patter spray charts for pitchers,

684
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: and to see it on TV when they break down

685
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: a picture and what a change up looks like from

686
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: a hitter's perspective, A fastball, a split finger, a slider,

687
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: all the different pitches and they show it coming out

688
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: of the pitchers and and that graphic that shows the

689
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: different angles and speeds and what a fastball and a

690
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: change will look like. And how different, you know, ten

691
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: miles an hour on changeup is to the eyesight of

692
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: a hitter. I don't think. I don't think people realize

693
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: how hard hitting is.

694
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 4: Made hitting look. Hitting is the hardest thing to do

695
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 4: in any sport. You can only teach so much of it,

696
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 4: you know, depth, perception, eyesight, timing, athleticism, you know, all

697
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 4: that stuff matters. Quickness, strength of your hands, all that

698
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: stuff matters. And if any of that's not in there,

699
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 4: you won't be a hitter, you know. And that's why

700
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 4: there's so few people that can do it, uh is

701
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 4: because all those things have to come come together. And

702
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 4: the thing about I think I like about that graph

703
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 4: when it when it shows it coming out of that

704
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 4: window where the picture is throwing it, it's it's critical

705
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 4: for the picture to have it come out of that

706
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 4: same spot, so you can't decipher for the most part

707
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 4: what's coming out of there. You know, if if he

708
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 4: throws his curveball a lot higher arc than what he

709
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 4: throws his fastball, you can be able to pick it up.

710
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: Or if his slider's you know, down low so you

711
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: can get more more tilt on it, you're gonna be

712
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 4: able to tell that as well. So he's got to

713
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 4: have that come out of that same window every time,

714
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 4: which which is something that's not altogether that easy for

715
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 4: a pitcher. You know, you got to make sure that

716
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 4: you can have that deception there because that's one of

717
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: the keys of four components of pitching. Deception is one.

718
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: Of those before we get to the keys of the game.

719
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: You brought a great thing I wanted you to talk about,

720
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: is that as a hitter, where are your eyes as

721
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: the pitcher is in the lineup or coming out of

722
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: the stretch and he's making the delivery home? Where are

723
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: your eyes? Are your eyes at his hit? Where the

724
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: arm slot is? Are you are you looking at his

725
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: cap and then moving over to his arm? Are you

726
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: watching the ball because you think, oh, ball comes out

727
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: of his hand, you recognizing what kind of pitch it is.

728
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: But where are your eyes as he's about to deliver?

729
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 2: And then when he does deliver the.

730
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 4: Pitch, I'm looking right in his eyes. I'm looking right

731
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 4: at him. I'm looking right in his eyes. Because you

732
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 4: can tell a lot what a guy might be thinking.

733
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 4: You can tell if a guy struggling, you can tell

734
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: the guy's fighting himself. So the emotional part of it

735
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: first is I'm looking right in his eyes, okay, And

736
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 4: then and then when he goes to warm up, I'm

737
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: shifting right to where that window is what they call it,

738
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 4: that slot. If you will write with the ball right

739
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 4: where his arms to right where the ball is going

740
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 4: to come out of that hand. And that is critical

741
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 4: seeing that ball come out of his hand. Sometimes like

742
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: like you have the great big curveball like on a

743
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 4: rolldis Chapman or you know, like in a glass. Now

744
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 4: somebody that has a big hump in that pitch. That

745
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 4: that's something you got to pick up right away because

746
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 4: that curveball will just you know, wipe you out. The fastball,

747
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 4: you got to be able to tell the difference between

748
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 4: a fastball and a cutter, or a fastball and a slider.

749
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 4: The slider of the cutter has a little dimple in

750
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 4: it when it when the seams create what looks like

751
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 4: a dimple in the baseball, and you got to be

752
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 4: able to pick that up right out of his hand.

753
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes he will speed up or slow down

754
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 4: a little bit just so minute difference when it's coming

755
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 4: out of his hand, and you can pick that up

756
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 4: as well. So all these little things, these little tendencies,

757
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 4: you have to figure it out. And you know, it's

758
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: it's almost like it's a it's an any experience. It's

759
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: it's almost almost something you really can't teach. And Frank Howard,

760
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 4: one of my hitting coaches with the Yankees. He was

761
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: the best, and he used to say, Hey, you know what,

762
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 4: if you can sing, you can sing, and if you

763
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 4: can hit, you can hit. And it's really hard to

764
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 4: teach either one of them.

765
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: What's what's the difference as a hitter. I'm curious because

766
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 2: we keep hearing about Lozardo's change up and Christopher Sanchez

767
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: reinvented himself because of his change up and that made

768
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: his fastball even more electric. What are you seeing the

769
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: difference as a hitter? And I think Dodger fans love

770
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: hearing this is a Dodger, the hitter that you were, Steve.

771
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 2: What's the difference between the fastball and the change up

772
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: coming out of the arm. What do you see?

773
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 4: Well, it's sometimes the guys have what's called a circle

774
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: change where they hold the ball with their their their

775
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: forefinger and their thumb together or the thumb together, and

776
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 4: the ball comes off the pinky okay, they're your pinky

777
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 4: finger and it almost when it comes off and it

778
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 4: almost creates what's called the a screwball like Fernando used

779
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 4: to throw. So from our left handed to throw like

780
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 4: Lizardo tonight, that ball is gonna come in to a

781
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: guy like show Hao tiny, it's not gonna go away

782
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 4: from him. That change up's going to go into him slightly,

783
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 4: and it's gonna fall. It's gonna kind of like gradually

784
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 4: fall off the table. But what you're looking at sometimes

785
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 4: you can see that pinky sticking up a little bit,

786
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 4: and if I see that, I know it's going to

787
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: be a change up, so I can wait a little bit.

788
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: But the difference between a change up of ninety five

789
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 4: and eighty five can be like four or five feet,

790
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 4: And that's a massive difference when you're talking about being

791
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: able to hit the label or being able to hit

792
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 4: the sweet spot of the bat, you know, and and

793
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 4: you know, the ball's round the bats around until you

794
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 4: hit it square, and you've got to be able to

795
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 4: square that up. So when you explain it to somebody

796
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 4: like this, it's even it even seems harder, right, But

797
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 4: doing it in real time you just got a lot

798
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 4: of its reactionary And you here's another thing I'll say,

799
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 4: without getting too long winded, tim here is that as

800
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 4: a hitter, the longer you wait, the fact faster you are.

801
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 4: And that's what do you mean, You're just reaction. You're

802
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 4: just reactionary. If you see a pitch and you know

803
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 4: where it is and you try to muscle up on it,

804
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 4: your swing gets a little bit long, your back gets

805
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: a little bit tighter. In the hands, remember, your bat

806
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: has to be so loose in your hands that somebody

807
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: can come up and pull the bat out of your hands.

808
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 4: That's how loose you have to hold the bat. Because

809
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 4: it's not how hard you swing the bat, it's how

810
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 4: fast you swing it. And it's almost like a person

811
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 4: holding a hammer. You know, when you hold a hammer

812
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 4: and you're slamming down a nail like that, that's the

813
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 4: kind of action you want on a baseball bat. You

814
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 4: don't want to swing it hard, you want to swing

815
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: it fast, and there's a difference between the two.

816
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: I hope you're appreciating this, Dodger fans, because you're not

817
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: getting this anywhere else. The inside of a hitter in

818
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 2: the postseason. What they're thinking seeing a fastball Aspian pitches.

819
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: What is light to see it come out of the

820
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: hand of a major league pitcher? Nobody?

821
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Speaker 4: And one more thing I'll say is one thing I

822
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 4: learned earlier on in my career, and it really helped

823
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 4: me e when I was in the big leagues. I

824
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: used to say this little limerick, if you will, this

825
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 4: little riddle. And my scout, Ronnie King, was almost like

826
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 4: a surrogate father to us when my father passed away.

827
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 4: He was a guy that really stuck with us and

828
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 4: worked us out a lot. And one thing he told

829
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 4: me really made sense. When I was in the minor leagues.

830
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 4: He would say, when you're getting ready to hit the ball,

831
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 4: you're supposed to cock and glide, you know, get yourself ready,

832
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: cock and glide and see the ball before you stride.

833
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 4: So I would always remember that I gotta see the ball.

834
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 4: That's the most critical thing, because you can't hit what

835
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 4: you can't see. You got to see the ball. And

836
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 4: then after you see the ball, now it's up to me.

837
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 4: He's let the ball go. It's not in his hands anymore,

838
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 4: no pun intended. But it's up to me now. So

839
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 4: see that ball before you stride is a key thing

840
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 4: in hitting. All right?

841
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: In our final minute here, what are your key to

842
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: a Dodger win Sexuy?

843
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 4: The key is kind of multifaceted. I'll be quick with it.

844
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: Though.

845
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 4: Snell, of course, got to pitch his game this team

846
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 4: can be dangerous. I think the two offensive threats on

847
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 4: this team are going to hold true, especially if Will

848
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 4: Smith plays. He's got a factor into it. But it's

849
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 4: still Tayo Hernandez in the middle of that lineup.

850
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 2: Love it, Saxy Gray stuff. We'll talk tomorrow morning.

851
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 4: You bet you buddy?

852
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: All right there, he goes Steve Sas. Thanks to Michelle

853
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: for all her help this morning. Thanks to all you

854
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: Dodger fans for being a part of the show. Coming

855
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: up next, it's Colin Calhart. Don't forget early start. It

856
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 2: means early shows. Rogan and Rodney at eleven am. Petros

857
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: of money start at noon. They flex back and go

858
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: till two and I'll be back with Morongo because you know.

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Speaker 2: Dodgers on deck beginning at two pm. First pitch from

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Speaker 2: the Bank in Philadelphia. Three A Dodgers, Phillies, Blake Snell, Hey,

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Speaker 2: sus Lozardo. Enjoy it. Dodgers hopefully coming home with a

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Speaker 2: two zero series lead. Either way. We talk about it tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: bright and early with Saxon Kates and the Am beginning

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Speaker 2: at six am. Solo. Everybody