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Speaker 1: out Little van Halen. Wouldn't be a Monday morning. Wouldn't

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Speaker 1: So I get to be here tomorrow for Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: we have forgotten how to make a coffee mug a

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Speaker 1: that number one keeps the coffee hot and number two

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Speaker 1: doesn't alter the taste of the coffee. We just can't

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Speaker 1: because it didn't have it didn't have the steel lining

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Speaker 1: and they rust. And maybe it's just me, Joe, I

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Speaker 1: it's like all the coffee mugs that come out now

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Speaker 1: And now they have the new ones that have that

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Speaker 1: and it's got a lid on it that makes it

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Speaker 1: this is I'm not good at Joe. Do you buy

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Speaker 1: He'll be here seven o'clock till nine o'clock, two hours

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Speaker 1: and that is going to be tremendous. I've prepared two topics.

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I've got more than two topics. But

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Speaker 1: and then I'm not criticizing. But Chris Smithman can expound

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Speaker 1: that'd be fantastic. So no, we've got all kinds of

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Speaker 1: how does all this stuff jive? How does how does

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Speaker 1: According to them, everything is terrible. Everything just going as

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Speaker 2: This was your week Terror and near it.

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Speaker 1: Man, what a big change from the weekend. Right now

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Speaker 1: it is forty three at fifty five krc the talk

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Speaker 1: We got to turn the heat back. Had the heat

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Speaker 1: Maybe save a little money on the old ill Duke

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Speaker 1: we shall see. I was reading about the terrorist attacks

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Speaker 1: accused of committing various terrorist acts, they were all naturalized

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Speaker 1: Diagna perpetrated the March first terror attack in Austin, Texas,

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Speaker 1: in which a gunman killed three people, wounded fifteen others.

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Speaker 1: The gunman was wearing clothing that had the words property

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Speaker 1: According to Bill Mlusion to Fox News, the gunman committed

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Speaker 1: the attack one day after the US military strikes on Iran.

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Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security told The Daily Caller that Diagna

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Speaker 1: he was arrested in Texas for a collision with vehicle damage. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: an exact motive, FBI Acting Special Agent in Charge Alex

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Speaker 1: that subject and in his vehicle to indicate potential nexus

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Speaker 1: Department of Justice alleges that the men were acting in

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Speaker 1: support of ISIS. This isn't a religion that just stands

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Speaker 1: when people talk about the blessed name of the prophet.

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Speaker 1: Talk station fifty five KRC, the talk station Dan Carol

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Speaker 1: this all day Operation Epic Fury. In Day sixteen that

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Speaker 1: The Straight of Horn News is the big focus right now.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we saw the major bombing of the island

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Speaker 1: So we'll see what kind of influence Emmanuel Macron has.

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Speaker 1: He says, I called on him this. I guess Emmanuel

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Speaker 1: to talk about well, we'll talk about several things, and

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Speaker 1: especially this attempted street takeover that happened over the weekend

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighties and never came close to, I mean, really

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Speaker 1: really felt that where I was really putting things on

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Speaker 1: the line. I was proud to wear the uniform, glad

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Speaker 1: I did it great experience, but I've always felt like

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Speaker 1: there were others who deserved the benefits that come with

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Speaker 1: military service a lot more than me. And Bill. During

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Speaker 1: he said you deserve this, he said, you earned it.

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Speaker 1: And coming from a guy like that, knowing what he

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Speaker 1: did when he was in uniform and knowing that he

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Speaker 1: the air this morning, I'm going to make that phone

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Speaker 1: call to get the ball rolling on that. And it's

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Speaker 1: out this morning because he's on his way to work

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Speaker 1: right now as a Hamilton County Sheriff's deputy again thirty

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Speaker 1: local law enforcement. And we think all who wear the

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Speaker 1: Hamilton County Sheriff's deputies, first responders of all kinds around

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Speaker 1: the tri State and everywhere in Ohio. So I thank

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Speaker 1: and I promised him. He said, you better do it,

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Speaker 1: and I told him, I said, Bill, I don't want

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Speaker 1: as I'm off the air today, I'm going to make

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Speaker 1: we lost some Ohio National Guard members over the I guess,

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Speaker 1: I guess it was Friday when there was a mid

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Speaker 1: There were a total of six US airman parish in

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Speaker 1: that mishap. Case won thirty five refueling to anchor a

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Speaker 1: mid air collision over Western Iraq. I still haven't seen

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Speaker 1: a lot of details about what happened with in this

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Speaker 1: particular mishap, but this happened over Western Iraq and the

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Speaker 1: and bravest, three Ohioans who belonged to the one hundred

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Speaker 1: He attended the University of Cincinnati, got a bachelor's degree

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Speaker 1: May of twenty fifteen. Captain Seth Covel thirty eight years

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Speaker 1: Sergeant Tyler Simmons twenty eight years old of Columbus boom

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Speaker 1: School in May of twenty eighteen. Cobel was a KRC

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Speaker 1: According to the National Guard, Angston Simmons were responsible for

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Speaker 1: worldwide air refueling, aeromedical, cargo, passenger operations. Today, we more

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Speaker 1: Major General Matthew Woodruff, the Adjutant General, said in a

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Speaker 1: friends and fellow service members, and our entire Guard family.

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Speaker 1: imagine when we lose great individuals like this. It's a

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Speaker 1: still very difficult. JD. Vance, the Vice President, put this

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Speaker 1: to visit as a senator. A grateful nation mourns their

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Speaker 1: and Carol for Brian Thomas. I won three seven fifty

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Speaker 1: Mike checking in this morning. Mike, what's what you got

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Speaker 1: for us this morning?

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Speaker 5: Hey, good morning Dan.

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Speaker 8: First and foremost, of course, we want to I sent

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Speaker 8: my sincerious condolences, and I'm sure I echo everyone in

649
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Speaker 8: this country to the six airmen that we lost.

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Speaker 10: Over the weekend, absolutely and everyone in support of that

651
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Speaker 10: epic fury worldwide or in my thoughts and prayers for

652
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Speaker 10: a safe return and a successful conclusion to this mission.

653
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Speaker 8: I want to salute you for your service in the

654
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Speaker 8: Air Force.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

656
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Speaker 8: I came from a military family. My father was part

657
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Speaker 8: of the Greatest Generation. He was in the Pacific Theater

658
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Speaker 8: in the United States Marine Corps. He Regima survivor.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 8: My brother was a career naval submarine officer and I

661
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Speaker 8: put in twenty nine years in our submarine force.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you for your service as well.

663
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Speaker 8: Thank you sir. Every time I signed those re enlistment

664
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Speaker 8: paperwork to extend my career, as Brian and other people say,

665
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 8: that's pretty much signing a blank check to the government

666
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 8: that I'm ready, willing and able to support any mission

667
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 8: that the Commander in Chief and the Pentagon would ask

668
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Speaker 8: me to engage in. And that's what everybody's serving now

669
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Speaker 8: is for. So I take every opportunity. I'm involved in

670
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Speaker 8: three veteran organizations, one at Honor Flight tri State, because

671
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Speaker 8: I think it is incumbent not for me to be

672
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Speaker 8: there for my fellow veterans, but then also to say

673
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Speaker 8: thank you as much as I can to the veterans

674
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Speaker 8: who went before me, who allowed yours and my service

675
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 8: to be possible. It just you know, we know what

676
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 8: we went through to do what we did, and defending

677
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 8: this country and projecting what is needed for world peace

678
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Speaker 8: is why we have our defense.

679
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Speaker 1: Honor Flight tri State unbelievably great organization. I had the

680
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Speaker 1: privilege to be on the very first honor flight that

681
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Speaker 1: left out of this area for World War Two veterans,

682
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Speaker 1: and that is awesome. Yeah, that was many, many years ago.

683
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Speaker 1: And our buddy Andrew Pappas is on the board of

684
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: Honor Flight now and so get I get regular updates

685
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: from PAPIs on what's happening with I believe Cheryl Pop

686
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Speaker 1: and the crew are still still running that absolutely. Yeah,

687
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Speaker 1: fantastic people.

688
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Speaker 8: Great to work side by side with them. We actually

689
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 8: were getting ready to kick off our twenty twenty sixth season.

690
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 8: Our flight here is in three weeks April seventh. We'll

691
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 8: have four flights this year, and everything is about getting

692
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 8: these veterans back to DC to the memorials.

693
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Speaker 1: Is it mostly as veterans now on the most.

694
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Speaker 8: Party, Yes, sir, sprinkling of well scoot the Korean War veterans,

695
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 8: but yes, eighty to ninety percent on each flight out

696
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Speaker 8: of the eighty eight veterans are Vietnam veterans. And we

697
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 8: actually had and I'm sure probably Andrew told you about

698
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 8: it because he was tamilily evolved in it as well.

699
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 8: Our flightless Honor Flight last Sunday in which because you

700
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Speaker 8: know what's required me to be on that out of flight,

701
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 8: it's a sixteen hour day, and there's a lot of

702
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Speaker 8: our veterans that are unable. We actually had three World

703
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 8: War Two veterans that we were able to honor at

704
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Speaker 8: the Anderson Township Center this past a Sunday a week ago.

705
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Speaker 8: They got the full you know, with just without the

706
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Speaker 8: exception of being on that plane, but they got they

707
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 8: get a forty five minute well produced video of what's

708
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 8: there in DC. But the most important thing and you

709
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 8: what you've been through it, and you've seen it on

710
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 8: the news, what that welcome home ceremony is like. It's

711
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Speaker 8: absolutely we were able to replicate that at Anderson Township Center.

712
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Speaker 8: It was a beautiful sunny day, high school kids, boy scouts,

713
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 8: families of the veterans, and the gentleman that I was escorting,

714
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Speaker 8: he said, I've never I've seen a New York ticker

715
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Speaker 8: tape parade on TV, but this is even better than that.

716
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Speaker 1: How about that?

717
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Speaker 8: Now?

718
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Speaker 1: I saw I actually saw some video that was posted

719
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Speaker 1: to that, and I believe it was a video that

720
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Speaker 1: Josh Garth posted to that, and it just looked I

721
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: wasn't able to attend that day, but it just looked

722
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Speaker 1: like a tremendous event.

723
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Speaker 8: It's a phenomenal day. We've been around for twenty one years,

724
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Speaker 8: and in my humble opinion, we are the gold standard

725
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Speaker 8: of the over one hundred and twenty five hubs around

726
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 8: the nation that provide this trip to the veterans. But

727
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 8: for twenty one years we've been doing this. I know

728
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 8: exactly what to expect, but I think, just obviously being

729
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 8: a veter myself an American, the hair stands up on

730
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Speaker 8: the back of my neck and I am so filled

731
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Speaker 8: with emotion just to see how emotional that these guys are,

732
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Speaker 8: because you well know that especially our Vietnam vets did

733
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Speaker 8: not get that well home. They got just the opposite.

734
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Speaker 8: So this is our way here in the local community

735
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Speaker 8: and around the country to finally say thank you to

736
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Speaker 8: those Vietnam veterans who did not get that welcome home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it can't be and it can't be done enough.

738
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Speaker 1: It sometimes it seems like it may be a little repetitive,

739
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Speaker 1: but you know what, I don't care. I don't think

740
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Speaker 1: anyone and no one else should care. We it's something

741
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Speaker 1: that I think that we just can't do enough. And

742
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Speaker 1: the more we do it, and I certainly hope we're

743
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Speaker 1: not getting to the point where we're going to have

744
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Speaker 1: a generation that doesn't have any connection with this whatsoever

745
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: and these things sort of fade away. I just I

746
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: just certainly hope that that does not happen. But when

747
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: I see this story out of old dominion, and these

748
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: cadets who rose up as this this would be terrorists

749
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: shot him down and without any weapons on their own.

750
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Speaker 1: I think one guy might have had a knife, but

751
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: they subdued this attacker and arrange the meeting with Allah.

752
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: So I have when I see stuff like that, I

753
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Speaker 1: have hope for the younger general.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely. I mean, it's just so it was frightening to

755
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 8: think what kind of carnage that that criminal that Myscreant

756
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Speaker 8: could have caused that day. And I went in right

757
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Speaker 8: after Vietnam and I saw a huge swing after Desert

758
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 8: Storm and then definitely after nine to eleven. So I

759
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 8: am optimistic as you are too that I think you know,

760
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Speaker 8: we've we've gone past that and situations like that, as

761
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Speaker 8: exhibited at Odu. I think we are and we are

762
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Speaker 8: well hanced. The people that are fighting to fight over

763
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Speaker 8: there right now, and all our veterans around the country.

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Speaker 1: Well, we thank God for the lives of Curtis Angst

765
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Speaker 1: Seth Kovel and Tech Sergeant Tyler Simmons and the other

766
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Speaker 1: airmen who were lost during that crash, and everyone who's

767
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Speaker 1: participating in epic fury right now and even beyond that. So,

768
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Speaker 1: Cribbage and Mike, we got to run. But I appreciate

769
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Speaker 1: the sentiments, and I appreciate you picking up the phone

770
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Speaker 1: this morning. Thank you. Damn all right, there you go, Cribbage, Mike,

771
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Speaker 1: thank you very much for that six twenty six. We

772
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Speaker 1: got to get to a break and we be talking

773
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Speaker 1: with Ken Kober the uh hey, you know who Ken

774
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Speaker 1: Kober is. He's the main man at the Cincinnati Fop.

775
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Speaker 1: After this on fifty five KRC the talk station.

776
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Speaker 3: Fifty five KRC his Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 9: Here for Peter Shubris. This regroup of Keller Williams, seven Hills.

778
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Speaker 9: Finding your perfect dream home takes a lot of time

779
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Speaker 9: and energy.

780
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Speaker 1: Fifty five KRC the talk Station. Dan Carroll in for

781
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas. Little intro music for our buddy Ken Kober

782
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: right there, the main man at the Cincinnati Fop and

783
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Speaker 1: I was. I was doing something yesterday and I got

784
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Speaker 1: a text message from Joe Strecker and he says, hey,

785
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: you got Ken Kober at six point thirty. So I said,

786
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Speaker 1: that's fine with me. I haven't talked to Kennon a

787
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Speaker 1: little bit and Ken Kober, great to have you on

788
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: this morning. How you doing.

789
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Speaker 11: I'm doing right, Dan, Thanks for having me.

790
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Speaker 1: How are you never a dull moment? Never a dull

791
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Speaker 1: moment in your world?

792
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Speaker 8: Is it?

793
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Speaker 5: No?

794
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Speaker 1: No, there never is unbelievable. According to our friend Signal

795
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: ninety nine, over fifty arrests, more than seventy vehicles towed.

796
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: That has got account for a pretty busy night for

797
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: our friends in the Cincinnati Police Force.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean were There were a lot of resources

799
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Speaker 11: expended to make sure that these people couldn't do some

800
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 11: of the things that they wanted to do and endanger

801
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 11: the community, which I certainly applaud the cops for doing.

802
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought this business of the attempted street takeovers

803
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: had sort of run its course. It seems like it's

804
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: been a little while since we had an event like this.

805
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Speaker 11: Well, we have had some success stopping this nonsense, you know,

806
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 11: or at least identifying some of the people evolved and

807
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 11: going back and charging them. But this group, primarily, I

808
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 11: think it was like eighty five percent of this group

809
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 11: weren't from Cincinnati, so they may not have understood that

810
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 11: we've been taking this serious and we are going to

811
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 11: find a way to stop this nonsense.

812
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: So what when they do these street takeovers? What do

813
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: they do? A bunch of people with souped up cars,

814
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: they get together and just block off an area and

815
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: then just do crazy stuff. What how do how do

816
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: these things work?

817
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean they basically just go out and try

818
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 11: to try to be a menace. They'll stop. I mean

819
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 11: I've seen it back when I was one of the

820
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 11: beat They shut down Second Street at midnight on a

821
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 11: Saturday night, where cars couldn't go anywhere, and they would

822
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 11: block the intersection and then just do doughnuts, you know,

823
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 11: revel engines, you know, do the burnouts, all this nonsense, just.

824
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: To create chaos.

825
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Speaker 11: And I imagine, you know, it's midnight on a Saturday night,

826
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Speaker 11: You're asleep and one of these nice apartments downtown, and

827
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Speaker 11: all of a sudden you hear a bunch of motors

828
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Speaker 11: reven and tire squealing, and it just becomes a quality

829
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 11: of life issue, not to mention how dangerous it could

830
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,959
Speaker 11: be for some of these onlookers. One of these cars

831
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 11: loses control, But what ultimately ends up happening is the

832
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 11: police get there. They go to break it up, and

833
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 11: what do these fools do. They take off in every

834
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 11: direction as fast as they can, with absolutely zero regard

835
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Speaker 11: for safety, running red lights. I watched a cargo about

836
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 11: eighty five miles an hour down Second Street on a

837
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Speaker 11: busy Saturday night. These people have no regard for any

838
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Speaker 11: safety whatsoever.

839
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, I want to say it was a

840
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: couple of years ago there was an incident similar to

841
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: this one when we had over the weekend. It was

842
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: down on Fort Washington Way, and it was the guy

843
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: who would and I forget his name. His name escase

844
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: me at the time, but he was a meteorologist for

845
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: Channel nine and he was on his way was on

846
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: a weekend, and so he was working a weekend shift.

847
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: He's on his way out of the station. He's coming

848
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: through the Litle Tunnel and he gets to the other

849
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: end of the tunnel and they've got Fort Washington Way

850
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: blocked off and they're doing the street takeover down there.

851
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: On Fort Washington Way and he just drove up right

852
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: on this right after this had gotten started, and he

853
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: said he was approached by people in this group and

854
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: he felt threatened for his safety because and all he

855
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: was the one was sitting in their mind in his

856
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: own business. So is this another component of these street

857
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: takeovers where if anyone threatens to get in their way

858
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: or tries to get through that they that they threaten

859
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: these people with violence.

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Speaker 11: Well, yeah, not to mention, I believe there were three

861
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 11: guns that were recovered as a result of this chaos

862
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 11: that went on Saturday. And understand this, this didn't just

863
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 11: start like hey, we're gonna meet here and we're gonna

864
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 11: do this. While these folks are all gathering together, you know,

865
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Speaker 11: they're driving recklessly through the city east side of the

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Speaker 11: city to the west side downtown. There were multiple officers

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Speaker 11: stop people at different locations. There were cars that fled

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Speaker 11: from the police before they even get started with this nonsense.

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Speaker 11: So these aren't like these are law abiding citizens that said, hey,

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Speaker 11: why don't you come take a look at my really

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Speaker 11: fancy sports car. These are people that are there that

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Speaker 11: have ill intent, that don't have any regard for safety

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Speaker 11: of anybody, and it's only an otter of time before

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Speaker 11: somebody gets killed in one of these incidents.

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Speaker 1: So seventy cars towed in all that to me sounds

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Speaker 1: like that had to take a little while. And I

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Speaker 1: would imagine while this is going on, these people can't

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Speaker 1: be very happy that their expensive cars are getting total way.

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Speaker 1: What was that like?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, and then there's almost almost forty people went

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Speaker 11: to jail, and understand there are more people that are

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Speaker 11: going to be arrested because of this. You know, the

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Speaker 11: law is very very clear in Ohio for the street

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Speaker 11: racing that you don't have to be the driver of

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Speaker 11: the vehicle if you are a participant in one of

886
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Speaker 11: these things, and that could be taking video of it,

887
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Speaker 11: that could be you know, handing out popcorn to spectators,

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Speaker 11: you know, cheering them on. You know, they're going to

889
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Speaker 11: go through all this video evidence and if they can

890
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Speaker 11: identify more people, they're going to charge more people. But

891
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Speaker 11: to your point, yeah, there are a lot of people

892
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Speaker 11: that weren't really happy about having their cars towed. But

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Speaker 11: you know, the fortunate part of this is, you know,

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Speaker 11: they have been monitoring this group of people for a

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Speaker 11: while and they finally got them to a point where

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Speaker 11: they're in a parking lot where we can keep them contained.

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Speaker 11: This is all it is. Put out stopsticks and if

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Speaker 11: you run over the stop, you're gonna have four flat tires.

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Speaker 11: So it ended about as safely as it possibly could have.

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Speaker 1: Well, it just it just goes to show that more

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Speaker 1: excellent work by our men and women in uniform in

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Police Department. Ken, can you can you hang

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Speaker 1: on for a quick break. I got a couple more

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Speaker 1: questions on the other side. Yeah, sure, all right, stay

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Speaker 1: right there with Ken Cobra and we'll get back to

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Speaker 1: him in a jiffy. Fifty five KRCV talk station.

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Speaker 3: This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Steam the talk station. Fifty five KRC the talk station,

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Speaker 1: and Carol and for Brian Thomas, continuing our conversation with

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Speaker 1: Ken Cober. Now and Ken Cober we talked about the

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Speaker 1: the event, the street takeover, and that happened in District

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Speaker 1: four then went down towards downtown. So that was a

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Speaker 1: crazy event overnight. So we we see this, and we

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Speaker 1: see this in the wake of the review of the

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Speaker 1: city manager. And I'm looking at this review and the

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Speaker 1: first point on the city manager's review, in which the

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Speaker 1: city council gave her a great review, which I believe,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, she wrote the review herself, was

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Speaker 1: public safety. That point number one, public safety and health,

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Speaker 1: and apparently we're doing just fine in that category. How

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Speaker 1: would you size up the area, especially when it comes

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Speaker 1: to public safety in Cincinnati these days?

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Speaker 11: Think it's certainly a rough first ten or eleven weeks

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Speaker 11: of the year. I think shootings are up drastically. I

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Speaker 11: know homicides are up drastically, So I think i'd argue

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Speaker 11: right now, especially in some of the coldest months of

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Speaker 11: this year, probably not succeeding with the safety plan.

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Speaker 1: Well, the number that was reported was in Cincinnati so

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Speaker 1: far this year, sixty shootings are up. The number of

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Speaker 1: people shot in Cincinnati sixty two point five percent this

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Speaker 1: period of time over last year's period of time. That

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Speaker 1: to me sounds like a pretty big number.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, it certainly is a very big number, especially

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Speaker 11: when you're talking about really the months of January and February,

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Speaker 11: which historically have been you know, lower crime months just

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Speaker 11: because it's cold, people don't want to go out, things

937
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Speaker 11: like that. But yeah, I mean, it's it is certainly alarming.

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Speaker 11: But you know, we're starting to see the ripple effect

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Speaker 11: of you know, zero accountability in the court system, zero accountability,

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Speaker 11: and just in the social networks. I mean, you see

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Speaker 11: what's accepted when people you see what people put on

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Speaker 11: social media about different shootings, and they just it's it's

943
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Speaker 11: become so commonplace, people become so numb to it. They

944
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Speaker 11: just expected it to happen. And you know, of course,

945
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Speaker 11: you know there's no accountability. You've got that many more gunmen,

946
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Speaker 11: You've got that many known shooters that are running around Cincinnati.

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Speaker 11: It's no surprise that shootings are up.

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Speaker 1: Uh, do you have any sense u of anything that

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Speaker 1: is happening in the situation with the chief Teresa Thigi

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Speaker 1: obviously suspended, The investigation has been going on, It's been

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Speaker 1: extended a couple of times. Now, do you have any sense,

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Speaker 1: Ken Kober, that we're going to see any movement in

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Speaker 1: that area, any significant movement as it relates to Chief dig.

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Speaker 11: Now I find it hard to believe. I mean, they

955
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Speaker 11: just keep on punning every month, and I don't know

956
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Speaker 11: if I hope so this just goes away that people

957
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Speaker 11: forget about it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 11: I mean it's I don't see a scenario where the

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Speaker 11: chief comes back. But I also don't see a scenario

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Speaker 11: where the city gets man, we messed up. This isn't

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Speaker 11: how we should be treating somebody that's done three and

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Speaker 11: a half decades of service to the city and we're

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Speaker 11: going to make this right to you. I just don't

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Speaker 11: see the city doing the right thing.

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Speaker 1: But in a real sense, though, how does this filter down?

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Speaker 1: How does it when you deal with the men and

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Speaker 1: women that you deal with every day, who are on

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Speaker 1: the streets, who are going to roll call every day,

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Speaker 1: When they look at this situation and they see this

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Speaker 1: is happening to the chief, does that translate to them

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Speaker 1: at all? Looking at look at I mean, here, here's

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Speaker 1: my own personal situation. And if they can do something

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Speaker 1: like this to the chief, what about me?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, it is absolutely a reality. That's the first thing

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Speaker 11: that cops have said is if they'll do this to

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Speaker 11: the police chief, what will they do to me. I'm

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Speaker 11: just a police officer. Now I go out and I

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Speaker 11: do you know, I do the right thing, and somehow

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Speaker 11: politicians don't like it?

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Speaker 7: Is this?

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Speaker 11: How is this how I'm going to be treated? And

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Speaker 11: then you have this this has been going on now

985
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Speaker 11: for months, and it's like, Okay, well, who's ultimately going

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Speaker 11: to be in charge of this police department? The men

987
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Speaker 11: and women in this police department deserves to know who

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Speaker 11: the leadership is going to be moving forward. And I

989
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Speaker 11: guess we assume right now just because uh, interim Chief

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Speaker 11: Henny's been here. And believe me, I mean he's done

991
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Speaker 11: a good job. I think a lot of people like him.

992
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Speaker 11: But you know, still it's like, what are we doing?

993
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Speaker 11: We need to have some finality here, and I think

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Speaker 11: it's something that either City Hall doesn't recognize or they

995
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Speaker 11: just don't care well well.

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Speaker 1: And I get the sense that Chief Henny is really

997
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Speaker 1: not in the loop either when it comes to information,

998
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Speaker 1: and so that's got to affect the way he does

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Speaker 1: his job.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 11: Sure, anytime you have an interim chief, and I've seen

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Speaker 11: this throughout my career several times, you know where it

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Speaker 11: makes it difficult for an interim chief to come in

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Speaker 11: and make some of the changes that they believe that

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Speaker 11: should be fit. Chief Henny's made some changes. I do

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Speaker 11: believe that there's more things that he would like to do,

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Speaker 11: but it's hard. When it's hard when you're just the

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Speaker 11: interim to make some really really drastic or changes just

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Speaker 11: because you don't know if you're going to be there

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Speaker 11: or no.

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Speaker 1: And that's just it. I mean, you've got to be

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Speaker 1: you've got to be gun shy when it comes to

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Speaker 1: pulling that trigger or getting irons in the fire. And

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Speaker 1: then you know, a couple of weeks or a couple

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Speaker 1: of months later, well, the the you know, the old

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Speaker 1: chief is coming back. So all this stuff that I

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Speaker 1: had going, we've got to put that on hold or

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Speaker 1: wipe all that out because you know, look, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the chief is the chief. The Chief's got to have

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Speaker 1: their own policies.

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Speaker 11: Certainly makes you wonder if this is done by design?

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Speaker 11: What was this done by design?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, look I look at it from

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Speaker 1: from the position I'm in, I'm frustrated by it. But you,

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Speaker 1: I mean you you live it every day, and the

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Speaker 1: men and women who where they were uniform, they live

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Speaker 1: it every day, and I can only imagine the level

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Speaker 1: of frustration on top of everything else that goes on

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Speaker 1: with the revolving door that we have at the Justice

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Speaker 1: Center and everything else.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, sure, it's just ripped the band aid off, make

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Speaker 11: a decision. We'll live with it, just like we've done

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Speaker 11: every other time that some some this has happened. So

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Speaker 11: just I wish they would just be transparent making decision

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Speaker 11: so we can all move on. Yeah, regardless of what

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Speaker 11: that looks like, we should be able to move on.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, we we appreciate transparency from the police

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Speaker 1: department as far as the neighborhood crime reports, the numbers

1039
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Speaker 1: of shootings, the breakdown of the crimes, the the you know,

1040
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Speaker 1: the the burglaries, the thefts, the all the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: The shootings, the numbers are not good and so that

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Speaker 1: needs to be addressed in a serious way. Are there

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Speaker 1: going to be a bunch of these cars up for

1044
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Speaker 1: auction sometime soon? Are these people going to get their

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Speaker 1: cars back?

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Speaker 11: Well, it certainly depends, you know, it depends on that

1047
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Speaker 11: they're going to come down and pay the fees that

1048
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Speaker 11: are going to be associated with this.

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Speaker 1: Let's see.

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Speaker 11: I suspect the cars are going to be at least

1051
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Speaker 11: heeled up for evidence for a while, So I don't know,

1052
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Speaker 11: we'll see. Hopefully, hopefully that's how it all turns out.

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Speaker 11: They'll they'll stop this nonsense in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: All right, Ken Kober. We appreciate the time. Always great

1055
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Speaker 1: to have you on. Great talking to you. Keep up

1056
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Speaker 1: the great work and all the best to you and

1057
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Speaker 1: everyone in the Cincinnati Police Force. We appreciate what you

1058
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Speaker 1: do and stay safe out there. Brother. Were talking to

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Speaker 1: you again soon.

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Speaker 11: Great Dan, thanks for having me take that.

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Speaker 1: Good there you go. Ken Cover, the head of the

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Speaker 1: FOP here in Cincinnati. He always appreciate his time. So

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Speaker 1: fifty five care see the talk station six fifty three

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Speaker 1: Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas coming up after the news

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Speaker 1: at the top of the hour. Chris smitheman gonna be

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Speaker 1: in studio. In fact, he got here a little bit earlier.

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Speaker 1: And uh Chris Smithaman rolling in early. Chrismithman, how you

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Speaker 1: doing today? Man, turned that mic on over there.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you. Good to see you. I

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Speaker 1: don't get to see you in person. All that off.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, it's exciting. The hug was great, but I

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Speaker 2: got my beer hug.

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Speaker 11: I know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: How was the weather coming in?

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Speaker 12: I was listening to you, buddy. It's every bit of

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Speaker 12: thirty eight degrees man, and the and the wind is

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Speaker 12: rocking the truck.

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Speaker 1: So people have to do it very well. Have to

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Speaker 1: be very yes, people have to be very careful this morning, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean after. I mean yesterday it was windy, but

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Speaker 1: it was nice out. I got the windows in the

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Speaker 1: house open. Yeah, breeze has come and through, like this

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Speaker 1: is nice exactly. And then my wife, my wife's going

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Speaker 1: to think, she says, going to snow tomorrow. I was like,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's Cincinnati weather.

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Speaker 12: That's why, that's why people's allergies are going so crazy

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Speaker 12: right now.

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Speaker 2: You know, one day it's seven degrees, next day is twenty.

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Speaker 1: You know, are you do you have Do you have allergies?

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Speaker 2: I do?

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Speaker 10: Do you?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, they're killing you right now, not killing me, but

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Speaker 12: the weather change is definitely impact. It's nice to just

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Speaker 12: get a cruise, pick up, pick a season and stay

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Speaker 12: with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to do.

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm lucky. I've never really had had allergies

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Speaker 1: or anything. Like my wife is. She's got some allergies.

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Speaker 1: So when it gets to be around this time of year,

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Speaker 1: that's why we can't.

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Speaker 5: We can't.

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Speaker 1: We can't have a u We have an artificial Christmas tree, yes,

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Speaker 1: but she's allergic to Christmas trees. Oh, Wow, so we

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Speaker 1: can't have a real Christmas tree in that we had.

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Speaker 1: We had them for years and it was like every Christmas.

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Speaker 1: She's like, oh, I feel terrible. My head still tell you,

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Speaker 1: but so we we gotta have a fake Christmas. You

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Speaker 1: found out it was the Christmas tree that was creating

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Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, well, the the you know, the the

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Speaker 1: specialist says, well, you're allergic to grasses. So she she

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Speaker 1: gets out of cutting grass. She never gets she never

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Speaker 1: has to cut grass in our house.

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Speaker 2: She wouldn't be cutting grass. Yeah, she wouldn't be cutting

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Speaker 2: grass anyway. Can't care.

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Speaker 1: That's I do.

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Speaker 10: I do.

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Speaker 1: I do enjoy cutting the grass. I was looking at

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Speaker 1: it yesterday. It's like I got to get out there

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Speaker 1: and cut the grass. But it an't happening today. I

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Speaker 1: can tell you that much.

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Speaker 12: You know, my heart really goes out. I know we

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Speaker 12: only have a minute, but my heart goes out to

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Speaker 12: those airmen that lost their lives. I was listening to

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Speaker 12: the show coming.

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Speaker 1: I was talking about that a little bit earlier, and

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Speaker 1: six of them from here in Ohio. One went to

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Speaker 1: UC and that hits I know that hits close to

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Speaker 1: home for you. So we we'll touch on all those things,

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Speaker 1: but we got two hours with you. You agree to

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Speaker 1: be here till nine this morning. I did you know

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Speaker 1: you told Joe Strucker you'd be here till There's no

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Speaker 1: way you can't back out on it. And I'll be

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Speaker 1: all right, and then maybe we'll take a few phone

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Speaker 1: calls people there. I got questions for Chris Smithment. Today

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Speaker 1: is your day.

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Speaker 2: This is your day.

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Speaker 1: This is your day. So we'll continue on. But right

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Speaker 1: now we've got to get to a little news here

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Speaker 1: at the top of the hour, and then two hours

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Speaker 1: with Chris Smithment as we roll on till nine this morning.

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Speaker 1: Dan Carol for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRC, the talk station.

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Speaker 2: What's happening over there? An American submarine sunk in Iranian warship.

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Speaker 1: Is happening here at the top of the hour. Epic

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Speaker 1: Fury updates on fifty five KRS the talk station.

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Speaker 8: Updates on Operation Epic Fury is.

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Speaker 1: Check in for the latest point accuracy intelligen fifty five

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Speaker 1: KRS the talk station. Fifty five KRC the talk station

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Speaker 1: seven o six on this Monday morning, Dan Caroll in

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Speaker 1: for Brian Thomas, and I got to be here tomorrow

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Speaker 1: as well. And a special day today because you know,

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Speaker 1: Monday is always the Smither vent, which I thought was

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Speaker 1: a great thing when that started, And today is special

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Speaker 1: because the Smither event comes to us live instant. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's always live, it's always live over the phone.

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Speaker 1: But this is in studio and I am looking at

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Speaker 1: the guy right now and Chris Smithman, it's great to

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Speaker 1: see you. Thanks for having me on two hours. Are

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Speaker 1: you ready?

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Speaker 2: I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: You are always ready. I'm ready, I said earlier. I've

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Speaker 1: got I've got a couple of topics because he could

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Speaker 1: do the whole two hours on a couple of topics

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Speaker 1: because you're just that passionate, You're just that good. But

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Speaker 1: it's it's great to see. It's great to have you in.

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Speaker 1: And I know that the loss of the Ohio National

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Speaker 1: guardsman in the sky's over a rock is something that

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Speaker 1: hits close to home for you.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, my son Caleb is serving in the in the

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Speaker 12: Air National Guard. He did four years active duty, came

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Speaker 12: back home, re enlisted in the in the Air National Guard.

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Speaker 12: And you know, when you wake up and you see

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Speaker 12: any of our our military personnel dying, it impacts you.

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Speaker 12: Thank you for your service, you know, I heard the

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Speaker 12: the the interview uh previously with the with the gentleman

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Speaker 12: that called in his father served, he served. You know,

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Speaker 12: you know, it's a big sacrifice for families who are

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Speaker 12: supporting the servicemen and women, whether it's the spouse or

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Speaker 12: whether it is the parents. But you know what, and

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Speaker 12: before I just leave this, my heart goes out to

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Speaker 12: all of them. But you know, listening to the Columbus

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Speaker 12: young man, I've been listening to his story where he

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Speaker 12: was an only child, and listening to the listening to

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Speaker 12: that mom and that grandma talk about their their only

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Speaker 12: child who passed away, who had not wasn't married, did

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Speaker 12: not have kids. My heart goes out to his to that,

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Speaker 12: to that that entire family. But here's here's the part

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Speaker 12: of the event that really ticks me, and that is

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Speaker 12: the anti a marriage can sentiment behind this. I'm waiting

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Speaker 12: to listen to my elected officials in Washington be pro American,

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Speaker 12: you know, you know, get in their seat every day

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Speaker 12: who we elect them, and say that they're supporting our country.

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Speaker 12: We've got thirteen servicemen and women that have lost their lives.

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Speaker 12: Instead of like making that a punchline, you know, why

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Speaker 12: not extend their love.

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Speaker 2: And the support.

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Speaker 12: Why not go to the to the airport when they're

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Speaker 12: bringing those bodies off those planes and stand there and

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Speaker 12: be reverent and salute. That is what is missing right

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Speaker 12: now in our country. And it just bothers me when

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Speaker 12: I listen to this language.

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Speaker 1: Well, for far too many in the media and far

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Speaker 1: too many in politics, it is a bridge too far

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Speaker 1: to support the United States military. Some will all on

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Speaker 1: one hand say they support them, they give lip service

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Speaker 1: to it, and then they'll go ahead and and they'll

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Speaker 1: criticize the commander in chief, and they'll criticize the military

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Speaker 1: and criticize the whole notion that we needed to end

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Speaker 1: this scourge of Iran and their state sponsored terrorism that

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Speaker 1: has been going on since nineteen seventy nine. So to

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Speaker 1: expect this is as long as they're advancing theft the

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Speaker 1: radical left agenda, that is all that matters. And I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you brought that up because I had a clip

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Speaker 1: that came from ms NOW, which used to be MSNBC,

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Speaker 1: which is ms now, and this was an anchor who

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Speaker 1: was on over the weekend, and listen to the way

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Speaker 1: she describes the way Trump deals with the enemy. Joe

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Speaker 1: let's hear cut number one.

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Speaker 13: Really disturbing in the messaging around the war recently, and

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Speaker 13: aim and I really want your thoughts on this. In particular,

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Speaker 13: is some of the language and the description of their opponent.

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Speaker 13: So the way they seem to create this image of

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Speaker 13: the Iranians and all of their prox or anallies, the

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Speaker 13: sort of imagery that they conjure up, and I think

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Speaker 13: that it takes a certain amount of arrogance. And I'm

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Speaker 13: also going to say it a bit of racism to

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Speaker 13: constantly talk about people like they are savages. That is

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Speaker 13: a word that we've heard heg seth us so this.

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Speaker 1: And again you cannot find me. I defy you to

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Speaker 1: find me one clip where Donald Trump or anyone in

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Speaker 1: the administration has referred to the Iranian people as savages

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the leadership, when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the terrorism, when it comes to that sort of thing. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they describe them in the worst terms possible. But this

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Speaker 1: is an ms NOW anchor who is suggesting that speaking

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Speaker 1: ill of the enemy is somehow racist.

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, before we went in, that's a new

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Speaker 12: one on me, it is, But before we went in,

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Speaker 12: just remember that ten thousand to thirty six thousand Iranian people,

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Speaker 12: mostly young between the age of seventeen, nineteen and twenty six,

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Speaker 12: being shot down in the street. There were body bags

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Speaker 12: everywhere over in the streets of Iran. So the people

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Speaker 12: of Iran are saying they love this, they want to change.

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Speaker 12: They're in the street with their flags. Now you find

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Speaker 12: these pockets like you saw in New York over the weekends,

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Speaker 12: very small pockets. But for the most part, Dan Carroll,

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Speaker 12: the Iranian people are saying, we want our freedom, very

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Speaker 12: similar to the Venezuelan people who were saying, hey, we're

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Speaker 12: very excited about this person who's not the president who

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Speaker 12: was removed. But you heard lots of Democrats saying, hey,

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Speaker 12: this was a bad decision. I don't understand the tone death,

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Speaker 12: the tone deafness of the Democratic Party right now, Dan Carroll,

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Speaker 12: and how they are depicting what the people are saying

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Speaker 12: on the ground and what they're saying. It is very,

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Speaker 12: very very different right now. The United States is being

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Speaker 12: viewed as a liberator in Iran as they were in Venezuela,

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Speaker 12: and the people are saying, please come, please help me.

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Speaker 12: We're being murdered, we're being in we're in jail. We're

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Speaker 12: political prisoners. I don't know what they're talking about, but

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Speaker 12: I want to go back and finish this quick point.

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Speaker 12: The servicemen and women are following orders.

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Speaker 2: Dan Carroll, like you did. They don't have a choice.

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Speaker 12: And so what we need to have is this united

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Speaker 12: voice that we're supporting them as they're putting their lives

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Speaker 12: on the line for our freedom. And so when you

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Speaker 12: wake up in six air National Guard members have lost

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Speaker 12: their lives, three of them right here in Ohio. Our

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Speaker 12: Governor Mike Dwine says, bring our flags a half mass.

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Speaker 12: What we're looking for and what I'm looking for from

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Speaker 12: our leaders as at least a united voice behind those

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Speaker 12: military personnel who are putting their life on the line.

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Speaker 12: And like my family, my son is not in harm's

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Speaker 12: way this morning, but he is serving. He actually finishes

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Speaker 12: his training on Friday, so that makes him now eligible

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Speaker 12: to be the ploy. It's a scary time and I

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Speaker 12: would I wouldn't want anybody. I would never want to

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Speaker 12: wake up and hear anybody on the on the on

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Speaker 12: the TV saying anything like how you played it? Because

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Speaker 12: we have everything on the line with our family well,

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Speaker 12: and when.

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Speaker 1: It comes to the politicians. I can't. Yeah, I heard

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Speaker 1: I heard the despicable Chris Murphy from Connecticut. I heard

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Speaker 1: Adam Schiff, I've heard some other Dick Durbin was one,

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Speaker 1: who are talking as if that this has already been

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Speaker 1: a failure, this has already failed, that it's a this

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be happening, that somehow Congress ought to be in

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Speaker 1: control of all this. So there is no united front,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing at all to support and and you don't

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Speaker 1: have to be again, you don't have to be a

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Speaker 1: supporter of Donald Trump, but you but you cannot even

1293
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: tow that line to where it comes to like you're saying,

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Speaker 1: have a united front on this, yeah, because it's not

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Speaker 1: going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Because our kids are over there following orders.

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Speaker 12: And then there was a there were a group of senators,

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Speaker 12: I think six of them who who I think you

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Speaker 12: would completely disagree, who were saying that those military person

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Speaker 12: don't have the ability to disregard orders. They don't have

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Speaker 12: any ability to disregard in order. They are following the

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Speaker 12: direction of the of the commands.

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Speaker 2: Period.

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Speaker 1: That's what they do. Well, that's what you sign up for,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: And so I just i'm, i'm, I'm.

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Speaker 12: I'm reaching out, you know this morning, saying, hey, one,

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Speaker 12: I lift up all of the military families who are

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Speaker 12: out there right now, like mine, like yours, like many

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Speaker 12: in the list you're listening, audience, And I'm saying, why

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Speaker 12: not have the United Front right now.

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Speaker 2: For those who are serving.

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Speaker 12: Move away from the politics of what's happening in Congress

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Speaker 12: and what's happening in the Senate, whether it's going to

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Speaker 12: be a filibuster or not, whether they're funding DHS or not.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to discuss any of that.

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Speaker 12: I want to say, why can't we say the men

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Speaker 12: and women that are serving, who have their lives on

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Speaker 12: the line for our freedom right now, we support them.

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Speaker 2: I support them.

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Speaker 12: This is not the time to be burning flags, because yeah,

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Speaker 12: this is not the time to be taking a knee

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Speaker 12: right now. You've got too many young people that are

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Speaker 12: out there who have everything on the line, their life,

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Speaker 12: ready to give it for our freedom. This is when

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Speaker 12: everybody on social media should have a course in America

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Speaker 12: saying we support our servicemen and women.

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Speaker 1: And we can't even stand united against those who have

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Speaker 1: carried out what are essentially terrorist attacks in the country,

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Speaker 1: gunning down innocent people, and especially at Old Dominion University,

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Speaker 1: the Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shaw, who was I mean a

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Speaker 1: decorated Army veteran twenty years, one military honor after another.

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Speaker 1: And he's a ODU gunned down by a guy who

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Speaker 1: was a naturalized citizen, who had already been convicted of terrorists,

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Speaker 1: who was supposed to be locked up, but yet and

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Speaker 1: then then we were talking earlier about Virginia. Was in Virginia.

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Speaker 1: They let him out early. He goes to ODU. This

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Speaker 1: guy's dead, I mean after surviving you know, uh, a

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Speaker 1: service in Afghanistan and in other hell holes around the world,

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Speaker 1: that comes here and he's gonned down a professor, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: professor and luckily fortunately was his cadets.

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Speaker 2: Who took him out, who took that guy out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and fantastic.

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Speaker 12: And by the way, you don't hear enough about the

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Speaker 12: story that Dan Carroll just highlighted like it's hard to

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Speaker 12: find it, like you've got to go and find what

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Speaker 12: you're saying. They're not highlighting the stories of this r

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Speaker 12: o t c officer, The New York Teachers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the New York Times making it sty like hey,

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Speaker 1: he was just a guy just you know, maybe lost

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Speaker 1: his way.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: No, not a convicted terrorist. No, who should have, who

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Speaker 1: should have, didn't, didn't do, didn't do his full stretch

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Speaker 1: of eleven years when he was convicted in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: and then should have been kicked the hell out of

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Speaker 1: this country when that time was over. We got to

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Speaker 1: get to a break. We'll continue on with Chris simand

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Speaker 1: them until nine this morning, So if you have any

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Speaker 1: questions five one, three, seven four, nine, fifty five hundred

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Speaker 1: on fifty five krs the talk station talkstation seven one

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Speaker 1: on this Monday morning. We are in the midst of

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Speaker 1: a smither Ventz and Chris Smithman. I was getting ready

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Speaker 1: for the show yesterday and I saw this headline in

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Speaker 1: the Inquirer. I was like this, this is like ted up,

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Speaker 1: just perfect for Chris Smithman. Here's the headline. Fewer people

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Speaker 1: ventured downtown and OTR last year. The data shows, so

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Speaker 1: David Ferrar at the Inquiry, they did an analysis of

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Speaker 1: what's happening downtown and they found economic activity in downtown

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati and over the Rhine appears to have decreased. According

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Speaker 1: to an analysis of eight metrics traffic data sales, tax numbers,

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Speaker 1: public transit usage all suggests fewer people visiting the urban

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Speaker 1: core in twenty twenty five compared to twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Many residents and business owners believe a negative perception of crime,

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Speaker 1: particularly amongst people like myself.

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Speaker 12: Foot traffic, Yeah, foot foot traffic is dropping because of safety,

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Speaker 12: and President King Kobra earlier was specifically saying that. And

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Speaker 12: so remember, you know, people can choose where they want

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Speaker 12: to go to dinner, they can choose where they want

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Speaker 12: to watch a movie. They don't have to choose downtown

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Speaker 12: for their entertainment. And that's what's missing in our leadership,

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Speaker 12: you know, in the mayor's office and in the council's office.

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Speaker 12: And so the foot traffic traffic is down for a reason,

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Speaker 12: and that's because people don't feel safe. And so when

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Speaker 12: you go to dinner, you park your vehicle, it's practical,

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Speaker 12: you have to go back to your car. It's seven, nine,

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Speaker 12: ten o'clock at night. People are concerned about are they

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Speaker 12: going to break into my car? Are they going to

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Speaker 12: jump me? Are they going to attack my my wife

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Speaker 12: as we go back to the car, or my significant other.

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Speaker 12: All of that is happening right now.

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna get caught in a crossfire? Are you

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Speaker 1: between rival gangs shooting it out? I mean that that

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Speaker 1: that has happened. All that's the exact scenario has played out.

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Speaker 1: How many times? Or are you gonna get jump?

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Speaker 12: Are you gonna get jumped and have the president pro

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Speaker 12: tim say you deserve to get what you got? I mean,

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Speaker 12: look at what happened to Holly right there. I mean people,

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Speaker 12: are you know or you've got to go out there

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Speaker 12: and say, yeah, you know, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna what was the quote?

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Speaker 2: They were begging for that, they were begging for the beatdown.

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Speaker 12: That is why the foot traffic in downtown continues to drop.

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Speaker 12: And if the mayor and if council they don't intervene

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Speaker 12: with with with basic common sense, I'll focus on public safety,

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Speaker 12: you're gonna continue to see that trend. And what will

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Speaker 12: ultimately happen is those small businesses first will have to close.

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Speaker 2: They can't.

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Speaker 12: They're not gonna be able to generate enough money to

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Speaker 12: pay the big overhead that they have down there. But

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Speaker 12: then what's gonna happen is you're gonna see one of

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Speaker 12: our major corporations say, my employees are voting with their feet.

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Speaker 12: We're having a difficult time recruiting and retaining talent. They

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Speaker 12: don't want to come downtown, they don't feel safe. We're

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Speaker 12: gonna move over to across the bridge. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 12: Cincinnati's going to keep playing the leadership. They're gonna keep

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Speaker 12: pushing the button, and we're gonna lose one of our

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Speaker 12: big corporate partners down there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's not just it's not just the crime

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Speaker 1: or perception of crime. And what I was saying earlier

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Speaker 1: was that in people like me who live in the suburbs,

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Speaker 1: and I can find there's a lot of reasons I

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Speaker 1: want to come downtown and go to different events and

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Speaker 1: see different things, do different things. But it's it's far

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01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: too easy to find an excuse to not come downtown.

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Speaker 1: That's right, because I don't want to deal with the parking.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to deal with

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Speaker 1: everything else that comes along with coming into the city

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Speaker 1: and what in the possibilities of what could.

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Speaker 2: Happen, That's right. That's right.

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Speaker 1: And you know, and I see the like the video

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Speaker 1: that we have from the Brady Center last week, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and then this weekend we have the street takeover. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And things like that. Yeah, it's it just it's it's unsavory.

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Speaker 1: It's not good.

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Speaker 12: And you know, here, I want to say this so

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Speaker 12: that everybody understands that Dan Carroll, Christopher Smitherman, Brian Thomas,

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01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 12: Joe Strecker, I could keep naming. We all love downtown.

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01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 12: We all believe that our core is incredibly important. But

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Speaker 12: what we're not gonna do is dress this up and

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01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 12: say everything is okay. That's not fair. It's not fair

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Speaker 12: to the citizens that are out in our suburbs who

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01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 12: are talking about coming in. My point to you, Dan Carroll,

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Speaker 12: is when we talk about this, those people who are downtown,

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Speaker 12: they say, oh, you and I don't support the city.

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Speaker 2: We do support the city.

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Speaker 12: What we're saying is put the pressure on the mayor

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Speaker 12: and put the pressure on the council to make sure

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Speaker 12: that we're safe. You can't have one or two officers

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01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 12: cruising around downtown to cover the entire downtown of District

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Speaker 12: one and think that the citizens and your visitors are

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Speaker 12: going to be safe. Bottom line, that article is correct.

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Speaker 12: People you are choosing with their feet. They are not

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Speaker 12: coming downtown to spend their money. They're going to other places.

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Speaker 1: All right, We got to get to another break and

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Speaker 1: we'll continue on. We got plenty of time with Chris

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Speaker 1: Smithaman this morning and we're just scratching the surface. But

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Speaker 1: a long way to go on fifty five KRCD talk station.

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Speaker 1: We can go fifty five KRCD Talk Station seven point thirty.

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Speaker 1: Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas hanging out with Chris Smithman.

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Speaker 1: An extended Smither vent today as we roll on till

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Speaker 1: nine o'clock this morning, it's going to be here for

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Speaker 1: the whole two hours. Let me get your your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on and when you were in city council when it

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Speaker 1: came time to review the city manager. I think the

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Speaker 1: structure at city Hall was a little bit different when

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Speaker 1: you were on city council, but there there's always been

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Speaker 1: a city manager form of government here in Cincinnati, And

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Speaker 1: even when you were in council, the city manager served

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Speaker 1: at the pleasure of the mayor and city Council. And

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Speaker 1: so when it came time to review the city manager,

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Speaker 1: did the city manager at that time write their own

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Speaker 1: review and then submit it now to a council for

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Speaker 1: their for their for their rubbers tamp now, much like

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Speaker 1: what happened here in if for for share all long.

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Speaker 12: I mean, we've had a rich history, good or bad

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Speaker 12: firing city managers in Cincinnati, because you know, we are

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Speaker 12: a city manager form of government.

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Speaker 1: So we've had some great city managers over the years.

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Speaker 12: We've had some great ones and not so and not

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Speaker 12: so great, and and and what I will say is

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Speaker 12: that when you look at what our crime rates are,

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Speaker 12: city manager, that falls right under their preview. When you

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Speaker 12: look at the termination of Thiji, because I heard you

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Speaker 12: talking about that this morning, Chief Thigi, and how it

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Speaker 12: was done, and the millions of dollars most likely will

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Speaker 12: cost us when you hear about the termination of the

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Speaker 12: fire chief, Chief Washington, that litigation is Penon's going to

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Speaker 12: cost us millions of dollars. The eight point one million

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Speaker 12: in settlements that we just gave out right, just I mean,

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Speaker 12: I could just go through a list.

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Speaker 2: None of that made it to the evaluation. None of

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Speaker 2: it made it. Infrastructure, potholes, I've got, snow removal, none

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Speaker 2: of that is.

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Speaker 12: And you didn't have one member of council out of

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Speaker 12: nine say I have a question about snow removal. I

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01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 12: have a question about potholes, or infrastructure, or the sale

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Speaker 12: of the railroad dollars and why those dollars.

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Speaker 2: Aren't reaching the people and the infrastructure.

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Speaker 12: What's happening with this six hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 12: contract that you have with Irish Rowley. Are we getting

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01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 12: an ROI on that. There were no questions. That's when

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01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 12: you know it was a rubber stamp. It was all

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01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 12: baked up. And what I really believe, Dan Carroll, is

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Speaker 12: this is a pivot for the city manager to leave

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01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 12: the City of Cincinnati. She's most likely preparing to interview.

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Speaker 1: For John Opening Act.

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Speaker 12: I think this is I think that's right because the mayor,

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01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 12: the mayor is the mayor is turned out. You're going

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01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 12: to see a lot of the people in the administration

1511
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 12: that he's hired now looking for jobs, trying to find

1512
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:03,480
Speaker 12: places the land. I think that this was her evaluation

1513
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 12: that she's going to use to go and apply for

1514
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 12: a city manager job somewhere else in the United States

1515
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 12: of America. It's not about us, it was about her,

1516
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 12: and so no one.

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01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: In council raised any objection to this to help pave

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01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: the way for her to have a smooth exit.

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01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: Isn't that nice?

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01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:19,640
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: And then what we'll do is, isn't that nice?

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01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 12: We'll have some intim city manager for two years while

1524
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 12: the mayor finishes up his term and then rides off

1525
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 12: into the sun.

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01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:30,839
Speaker 1: So does that serve the people of Cincinnati?

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01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 7: It does it?

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01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: So all that's going to do. So you're telling me

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01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 1: right now, your sense is is that all these things

1530
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 1: that we have sitting on the table, when it comes

1531
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: to the police chief, when it comes to cameras in

1532
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 1: the West End neighborhood where the eleven year old girl

1533
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: was shot and killed and we still don't know who

1534
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 1: killed her, when it comes to the eight hundred and

1535
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars debt in the pension fund, when it

1536
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:53,600
Speaker 1: comes to crime, when it comes to the money. I

1537
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 1: saw a very cute video on the city website of

1538
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: how they feel potholes in Cincinnati. Very clever, very cute,

1539
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 1: and a lot of quick gut. It's all that kind

1540
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:07,799
Speaker 1: of stuff. So we're busy producing little video, little vignettes

1541
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: like that. But when it comes to actual drive around there,

1542
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: you drive around the city, I do, I do. Our

1543
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 1: road should be in awesome shape right now. We should

1544
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: have millions upon millions of dollars to spend on roads

1545
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 1: and infrastructure. But yet the the bureaucracy of city Hall

1546
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 1: and who's ever in that decision making process. It's not

1547
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 1: that money is not getting out. I mean I have

1548
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: I have that money. Is just is it sitting there?

1549
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 1: What's happening with that?

1550
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 12: Well, I'll come to I have about six meetings all

1551
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 12: over in different parts of our of our of our

1552
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 12: of our city, in our region today. And as I

1553
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 12: drive around, what is so interesting is if I go

1554
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 12: out into the county, you can you can just feel

1555
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 12: it when you.

1556
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 1: Cross the line. Fact the.

1557
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 12: Roads just get better, you know, It says leaving the

1558
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 12: city of Cincinnati, and then all of a sudden, my

1559
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 12: truck just kind of goes smooth as soon as I

1560
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 12: come in.

1561
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 2: It says, it's nice. I go entering the city of Cincinnati,

1562
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 2: it is boo boo.

1563
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 12: Boo boo boom boo boom boom boom boom boom boom

1564
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 12: boom boom. I even saw a cone sitting in a

1565
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 12: in a pothole over the weekend, like that is a

1566
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 12: cone that I'm now dodging, meaning the reality of it

1567
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 12: is effect none.

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01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 2: None of this made it into the evaluation.

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01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 12: Is your point, meaning our reality, Dan Carroll, about the

1570
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 12: job that's happening in the city, whether it's infrastructure, whether

1571
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 12: it's the Western Hills Viaduct, whether it's our police officers,

1572
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 12: firefighters safety, whether we're talking about the CSR system, which

1573
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 12: I hope we will spend some time on this morning

1574
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 12: talking about. None of that was was discussed with the

1575
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 12: city manager. That's what tells me this was about an

1576
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 12: evaluation to pivot her to her next job. She's leaving,

1577
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 12: she's starting to apply for other jobs, and she wanted

1578
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 12: to leave with a great evaluation, no matter what the

1579
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 12: reality was, no matter what the reality is, because they'll

1580
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,600
Speaker 12: never call us and say, what kind of job do

1581
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 12: you think the.

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01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 2: City manager did?

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01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 12: They're gonna call her nine bosses and the mayor and

1584
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 12: say what kind of job she's here's the evaluation, She

1585
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,839
Speaker 12: did a great job. They're not going to necessarily dig

1586
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 12: into the articles where they say crime is up, you know,

1587
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 12: sixty two percent. They're not going to say that. They're

1588
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 12: going to say, this was a great evaluation. She's in

1589
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 12: the pool, let's hire her.

1590
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 1: Well, they'll just send a link to the story in

1591
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 1: the Inquirer. Council gives a city manager share along a

1592
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:32,679
Speaker 1: glowing job review. There's the headline, right, that's the headline.

1593
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 1: That's how valuable was that? That is fantastic? Seven thirty five.

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01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:38,600
Speaker 1: We got to get to a break. We'll continue on

1595
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,719
Speaker 1: Chris Smitheman on fifty five kr.

1596
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 9: CV Talk Station Experience Comfort and Reliability with Zimmer HVAC

1597
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 9: for over six.

1598
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 1: Seven one on this Monday My special Monday Morning, Dan

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01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 1: Carroll and for Brian Thomas, and we are spending time

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01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:59,640
Speaker 1: in studio with Chris Smitheman this morning talking about just

1601
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 1: about it anything under the sun and yeah, and you

1602
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: heard it here first. Chris Smitheman is of the opinion

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01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: that chair along is uh cutting down the weeds. She

1604
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 1: got a machete out there hacking down the weeds and

1605
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: looking for an exit and her exits executing her exit

1606
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 1: strategy from the city manager's office. So we will see.

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01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna we'll see if that comes. I think you're

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01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, you are very perceptive on these issues. Yes,

1609
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 1: so I'm thinking you're probably right.

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01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 2: Well, I've been I've been down there.

1611
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 12: I mean it's not it's not you know, you're when

1612
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 12: you've been down there enough in the bows you see

1613
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:37,639
Speaker 12: that this professional is starting to look for her new gig.

1614
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 12: And you know, as we talk about issues, you're talking

1615
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 12: about infrastructure issues.

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01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 2: You know, you we touched off the air you mentioned

1617
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati retirement set.

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01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 10: Yeah.

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01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 1: Well, and the thing is, and I was gonna I

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01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 1: was going to talk Yeah, that is the next thing

1621
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about. This is something we talked about,

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01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: Michael Washington, Teresa Thigi uh, the West End cameras, the

1623
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,719
Speaker 1: a spike in violence, people don't want to go downtown.

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01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: This predates all of that. And this is how long

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01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 1: that we've had not just a city manager, but a

1626
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 1: city council that is not interested in dealing with serious

1627
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 1: issues in a meaningful way. And that, to me, Chris Smitheman,

1628
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 1: is one of the most long term frustrations when it

1629
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 1: comes to what's going on at city Hall.

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01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 12: Look, let me give John Cranley mayor former mayor John

1632
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 12: Cranley and that administration a big shout out here because

1633
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 12: one of the big steps they took, Dan Carroll, was

1634
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 12: to make it mandatory that sixteen point two five percent

1635
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,719
Speaker 12: of our payroll had to be paid into the Cincinnati

1636
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 12: retirement system.

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01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 2: And that was a very big step in the right direction.

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01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 12: Now, what I want to be clear is prior to that,

1639
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 12: mayors would balance the budget by underfunding the pension. I'm

1640
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 12: just trying to make it simple. So you know, if

1641
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 12: the stock market is up like it is now, the

1642
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 12: city council would say, we're not going to make that contribution,

1643
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 12: or we're going to make a lot less of a contribution.

1644
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 2: And these are our AFSME workers, These are our code workers.

1645
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 2: They are mostly.

1646
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,759
Speaker 12: Democrats who live in the city and in the region.

1647
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 12: This has nothing to do with police and it has

1648
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 12: nothing to do with fire because they have their own

1649
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 12: retirement systems. We are the only city in the state

1650
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 12: of Ohio that has a retirement system local like this.

1651
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 1: So these are the people who drove around on trucks

1652
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 1: filling the potholes. That's These are the people who Metropolitan

1653
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: Seward districts.

1654
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 2: Yes that they're in here.

1655
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, buddy, who retired as d MSD in here.

1656
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 1: All those city services, city.

1657
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 2: Water, absolutely sanitation workers, which is absolutely.

1658
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: Thousands upon thousands of people who did honest day's work

1659
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: for honest day's pay, working diligently for twenty thirty forty

1660
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:56,879
Speaker 1: years for the citizens.

1661
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 12: And the way you describe that is so critical because

1662
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 12: when your friend retired, he made or she made a

1663
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 12: decision that was irrevocable. I am signing off, I'm leaving.

1664
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 12: I've given you my thirty or my thirty five years.

1665
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 12: Now I'm going to receive a payment for the rest

1666
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 12: of my life, which includes a promise around healthcare. What

1667
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 12: is happening is because there's been so much mismanagement with

1668
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 12: this money that now they continue to go back to

1669
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 12: those employees where they made those promises and they're reducing

1670
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 12: benefits for those retirees.

1671
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 1: And who speaks for them? Are they all on their own?

1672
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:35,719
Speaker 1: I mean they do. They have a representation that speaks

1673
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 1: for them.

1674
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,799
Speaker 12: It's outside of code, which is a great great union

1675
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 12: there outside of asks me who they're obviously fighting for

1676
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 12: this every single day.

1677
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 1: The answer is no, I've bet are they? Are they

1678
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 1: speaking for the current employees or both the past employees

1679
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 1: and current player.

1680
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:50,799
Speaker 2: That's correct, that's correct.

1681
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 12: And so think about the widow or widower out there,

1682
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 12: meaning that person is now passed, you're receiving half of

1683
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 12: the benefit that the employee was receiving. And city council

1684
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,719
Speaker 12: says we're going to reduce your benefit even more. Here's

1685
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 12: the bottom line to everybody listening. The Cincinnati Retirement System

1686
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:13,599
Speaker 12: is an obligation that is required. When the CRS system goes,

1687
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:15,680
Speaker 12: so does the City of Cincinnati.

1688
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 2: It is not an exaggeration.

1689
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 12: The unfunded liability is probably eight hundred and fifty million,

1690
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:23,679
Speaker 12: meaning we need about three point one or three point

1691
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,680
Speaker 12: two billion dollars in assets. We probably have about two

1692
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 12: point one billion. We're sending out ten million the last

1693
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,640
Speaker 12: time I was down there per month in benefits or

1694
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 12: one hundred and twenty million dollars per year. The reality

1695
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 12: of it is is this is what is holding up

1696
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 12: the CRS system right now is the stock market.

1697
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:43,640
Speaker 2: Meaning we're getting a great performance.

1698
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 12: When the stock market goes through a natural cyclical retract removal,

1699
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 12: I mean a pullback where we drop ten fifteen thirty percent,

1700
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 12: you're gonna you're gonna hear a lot of screaming about

1701
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 12: the Cincinnati retirement system.

1702
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 2: Is what is keeping it together is the.

1703
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 12: It's like their four oh one k is the performance

1704
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 12: of the overall Dow SMP Russell.

1705
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 2: All of that is keeping things together. Look, here's here's

1706
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:12,480
Speaker 2: the reality.

1707
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 12: Cincinnati Retirement System and the mayor are trying to pivot

1708
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 12: this to the state. They want the state to take

1709
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 12: over the CRS system. The state is saying, why would

1710
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,240
Speaker 12: I assume an eight hundred and fifty million dollar unfunded liability?

1711
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: Number one?

1712
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 2: And if I would, you know that we're gonna We're.

1713
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 12: Gonna cut the benefits of those who are retired immediately.

1714
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 12: So understand, those of you who are voting for these

1715
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 12: councils and these mayors, you've got to start voting your pockabook.

1716
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 12: You've got to put a mayor in a council together

1717
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:49,759
Speaker 12: that prioritize the CRS system. The taxpayers have to understand

1718
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,880
Speaker 12: that if the CRS system goes under, they are going

1719
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 12: to dramatically raise taxes in order for us to bail

1720
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 12: out the Cincinnati Retirement System.

1721
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 2: Every CEO OH in the City of.

1722
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 12: Cincinnati, every CFO in the City of Cincinnati knows that

1723
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:06,639
Speaker 12: what I'm saying is absolutely true.

1724
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:08,600
Speaker 1: Do you think our current members of council have a

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01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 1: good understanding of this, working knowledge of this right They

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01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 1: do not. There does none of this ever makes it

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01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:17,719
Speaker 1: into the campaign.

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01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 2: No, it never makes it into the news. It never

1729
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 2: makes it into the evaluation of the city manager.

1730
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 1: It's not sexy. It's not sexy, but it's serious.

1731
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 12: It is the most serious thing that the city is

1732
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 12: facing because we are the only city in the city

1733
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 12: of in the in the in the state that has

1734
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:35,720
Speaker 12: our own self directed retirement plan. And you don't hear

1735
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 12: police and fire talking about it. Ken Kolber is looking

1736
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 12: at this and saying, for the most part, this is

1737
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,640
Speaker 12: none of my business, because sure, because my retirement is.

1738
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 1: Separate, separate issue here.

1739
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 2: And let me tell you what. Let me tell you

1740
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 2: what the FOP did, and the and the and the

1741
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 2: fire department did.

1742
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 12: They sued the heck out of the city, and the

1743
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 12: city had to put about forty four million dollars into

1744
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 12: their pension present value. They sued successfully. They say, you

1745
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:02,560
Speaker 12: can't keep under funding our pension. Guess what ask me?

1746
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 12: And Code and all of those other unions are gonna

1747
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 12: have to do the same. We can't just continue to

1748
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 12: carry an eight hundred million dollar unfunded liability and not

1749
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 12: think it's not gonna impact. And the second thing you're

1750
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 12: gonna see is our rating agencies are gonna wake up

1751
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:21,640
Speaker 12: one day and they're gonna say we're taking us. We're

1752
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:25,720
Speaker 12: gonna start bringing down our our our ratings for the

1753
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 12: bond ratings, the bond ratings. That's right, they're gonna start

1754
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,639
Speaker 12: bringing that thing down because they're gonna say, guys, you've

1755
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 12: got to deal with the CRS system.

1756
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 1: All right, quick break, will be right back with Chris

1757
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 1: Smithman on fifty five KRCV Talk station.

1758
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 3: Got a hot take read the room, don't let it

1759
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 3: die in.

1760
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 1: All right, we are back with Chris Smitheman. Just a

1761
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,680
Speaker 1: few minutes in this segment, and then we'll continue on

1762
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 1: one a whole other hour of Chris Smithment ahead, and

1763
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 1: if you have ever wanted to speak with Chris Smithman,

1764
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 1: ask him a question. The next hour. We'll have the

1765
01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 1: phone lines open five one, three hundred if you want

1766
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 1: to get on board with Chris Smitheman, because I'm asking

1767
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 1: all the questions here. But it's great to have you here.

1768
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 1: What is it going to take to And we were

1769
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 1: talking off the air about, uh, you know, all these

1770
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 1: employees all the and look, you've got to give credit

1771
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 1: to the Democrat Party here in Cincinnati because they are dedicated.

1772
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 1: They get people who are dedicated to their agenda, and

1773
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 1: you get so many people who go down and go

1774
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 1: and they go to vote and they vote straight, the

1775
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 1: straight Democrat ticket. That's all they look for is a

1776
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 1: D next to that person's name. And you tried this

1777
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 1: last election cycle to get through to those people. How

1778
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:40,760
Speaker 1: do you do it? I mean, it's it's it's got

1779
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 1: to be. You got to be standing there thinking, man,

1780
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 1: I am looking at a huge mountain in front of me.

1781
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 2: I think you're going to see Cincinnati.

1782
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 12: Unfortunately, we're taking steps towards Detroit and it starts with

1783
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 12: the crime piece, and people are going to get fed

1784
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,839
Speaker 12: up with their cars being broken in to petty crimes,

1785
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 12: which we don't even talk about. Usually we're talking about

1786
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 12: the violent stuff, the guns and stuff, but there's a

1787
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:09,800
Speaker 12: lot of petty crime that's happening down here that's not

1788
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:10,559
Speaker 12: being addressed.

1789
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 1: Well, we've got the folks in the West End who

1790
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: have been trying to have their voices heard, but it

1791
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 1: seems that they're getting their backs turned to them at

1792
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 1: city Hall.

1793
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 12: They are on that, but in this last election, eighty

1794
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 12: five percent of them voted for those who are elected.

1795
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 12: Elections have consequences. That's the tough part. And your question

1796
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 12: to me is when are they going to wake up?

1797
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 12: When are they going to say I want something different,

1798
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 12: And I think that it's going to be a crime issue.

1799
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 12: And I also think it's going to be a financial issue,

1800
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 12: meaning we cannot continue to spend the money we are

1801
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 12: spending and keep our cities taxes low are reasonable, which

1802
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 12: people are getting priced out of their homes right now

1803
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 12: with taxes and all that.

1804
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 2: But we just can't continue down this track.

1805
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 12: And eventually, I think the citizens of Cincinnati are going

1806
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:56,560
Speaker 12: to say I can't take it. I can't afford to

1807
01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 12: vote for these people. It's going to take probably another

1808
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:03,639
Speaker 12: election cycle or two. I think the person who will

1809
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 12: come back and be the mayor who will save us

1810
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 12: is going to be a blue dog Democrat.

1811
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 2: It will be that person.

1812
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 1: That's a throwback.

1813
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 2: That's right, That's right, It's.

1814
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 1: Back to the Tom Luken and Charlie Lucan days.

1815
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:17,120
Speaker 12: Those are the people that is it is going to

1816
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 12: be a candidate like that that is ultimately going to

1817
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 12: turn our city around. Somebody that says, I support our cops,

1818
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 12: I support our our retirement system. We're gonna we're gonna

1819
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 12: invest in our infrastructure, fix our potholes, make sure our

1820
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 12: sanitation workers, keep a clean city.

1821
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 2: Cincinnati is very dirty, clean the clean the city up.

1822
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 12: You're gonna know when that turn happens because the mayor

1823
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:40,719
Speaker 12: will be a blue dog Democrat.

1824
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 1: All right, We got to get to a break news

1825
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 1: coming up top of the hour, and then one more

1826
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 1: hour as you roll on till nine this morning with

1827
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Speaker 1: Chris smithment in studio, So pick up the phone five

1828
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 1: p one three hundred, Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas on

1829
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 1: fifty five KRC the talk station.

1830
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 2: What's happening over there every day?

1831
01:42:58,400 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 9: What's the purpose?

1832
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,919
Speaker 1: Are their military causing pain at the pump.

1833
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 6: Shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security?

1834
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 9: Fleet per seals hit them so hard?

1835
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 2: Where things happen?

1836
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 1: Fifty five krs the talk station fifty five krs the

1837
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 1: the talk says Chris Smith have been getting into the

1838
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 1: little van Halen thanks to Joe Strekker this morning, Dan

1839
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 1: Carolyn for Brian Thomas and a special morning in fifty

1840
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 1: five krs because we are graced by the presence of

1841
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:41,640
Speaker 1: Chris Smith Aman in studio. And this is I mean,

1842
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 1: this is I was a little bit surprised when Joe

1843
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:46,599
Speaker 1: told me you were to be able to do two

1844
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 1: hours today because this is a busy time of year

1845
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 1: for you? Is it not as a financial planner? I

1846
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 1: mean this is people are looking about, you know, what

1847
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 1: to do with their money and all that kind of stuff.

1848
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 1: So as you are in demand right now.

1849
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Speaker 2: In demand as we go into the tax season.

1850
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it is a crazy time r m ds that

1851
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 12: our people are requesting to I need all my tax information.

1852
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 2: So this is a very busy time. But glad to

1853
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:10,799
Speaker 2: be here with you, you know, in person.

1854
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 12: And you know, one of the things we talked about,

1855
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 12: and I'm gonna let you let you drive the conversation

1856
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:18,679
Speaker 12: off air, is we have a big.

1857
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Speaker 2: Gubernatorial race coming up. I mean state of Ohio.

1858
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 12: Vivek Ramaswami is up running for governor on the Republican side,

1859
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 12: and you know, I'd love to hear your insights on

1860
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 12: what you see happening with that state race.

1861
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I talked to our good friend Alex Strantefilu a

1862
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:38,679
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and I said, are people going

1863
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: to be reminded of what Amy Acton did during the

1864
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 1: Wuhan situation? And I summed it up by saying that

1865
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 1: she was drunk on power when that whole thing was

1866
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 1: rolling out. I think Mike de Wine was in a

1867
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 1: situation where he didn't really know what to do. Amy

1868
01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 1: Acton was the chief medical Officer. I forget the exact

1869
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 1: title of her position, but she was the main medical

1870
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,639
Speaker 1: officer for the state of Ohio. So he was essentially

1871
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,639
Speaker 1: just following her lead. And I remember her one time

1872
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 1: and they did. They were at that time, they were

1873
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 1: doing the daily news conferences and so every day, and

1874
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 1: we took them live over on seven hundred when I

1875
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 1: was over there, and every day Mike would come on

1876
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:23,840
Speaker 1: and he'd speak for a couple of minutes, and he

1877
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 1: turned it over to Amy acting And she was asked

1878
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 1: a question one time at one of these events, and

1879
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 1: she was almost giddy or giggling because she says, you know,

1880
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:36,439
Speaker 1: We've never had this kind of power before. I'd never

1881
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 1: been in a position where I'm able to say I've

1882
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 1: always told people that they should do X, Y and Z,

1883
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:43,760
Speaker 1: but they never listened to me. But now I have

1884
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 1: this power where I'm able to not only tell people

1885
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 1: what to do, but tell the governor we need to

1886
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:51,560
Speaker 1: do X, Y and Z and it gets done. So

1887
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 1: she had that little taste of power right there, and

1888
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 1: she took it to extremes and so I think if

1889
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 1: she becomes governor, I think we're going to see the

1890
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 1: same kind of extremes. She wants to present herself as

1891
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:08,679
Speaker 1: a moderate, much like Abigail Spamberger did in Virginia Woo.

1892
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 1: But as you and I both know, she is no moderate.

1893
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:15,880
Speaker 1: Amberg and I think Amy Acton, I think she is

1894
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 1: cut from the same cloth as in a political sense

1895
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:23,600
Speaker 1: as spam me. Their their backgrounds are they're because Spamberger

1896
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,560
Speaker 1: was in the military and the FBON all that. But

1897
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 1: from a political sense, I think they're cut from the

1898
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,800
Speaker 1: same cloth where they will present themselves as moderates. But

1899
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 1: should they get into power, We've seen what Spamburger has

1900
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:38,679
Speaker 1: done with a list of fifty new taxes and fees.

1901
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 1: Have you seen that list? Oh yeah, I mean dry cleaning,

1902
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 1: new tax? Want to walk your dog? New tax? Want

1903
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 1: to you want to buy a birthday cake? A new

1904
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 1: tax for that? I mean, it's it's ridiculous. So the

1905
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 1: same thing will happen here in Ohio should she find

1906
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 1: her way to the governor's office.

1907
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 12: You know, impacted me personally because my daughter was at

1908
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 12: Saint Clement for her for grade school during this period

1909
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 12: of time, and I just want to continue to note

1910
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 12: that the school never closed down.

1911
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Speaker 2: They took precautions, but the school never closed down.

1912
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 1: And so well, Mohler and Elder and I don't think

1913
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 1: Saint X ever shut down, did not shut down the

1914
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:22,639
Speaker 1: parochial schools, the private schools, they.

1915
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 2: Knew better, they knew better.

1916
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:26,759
Speaker 12: And what was interesting is, and this is the truth

1917
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 12: that there was tremendous pressure for them to close down,

1918
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Speaker 12: meaning the public school system was closed, saying shame on you,

1919
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 12: shame on you. You're putting the lives of these kids

1920
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 12: on the line. Blah blah, blah blah blah. Here here's

1921
01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 12: the payback. Right now, as my daughter graduates from seton,

1922
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 12: she's prepared for college.

1923
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 2: Think about those kids that were out of school for

1924
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 2: two years.

1925
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 12: We right now don't know what happened where they are,

1926
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:59,599
Speaker 12: how their education was impacted. So I could not afford

1927
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 12: for my daughter to be off school for two years,

1928
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:07,640
Speaker 12: not getting her education, not not not being prepared. And

1929
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:11,840
Speaker 12: that is a story that is very rarely discussed, and

1930
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Speaker 12: I hope it makes it into the gubernatorial discussion.

1931
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:17,120
Speaker 1: Well, and and never there was a portion of that

1932
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 1: that blew up in the faces of some of these

1933
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 1: education advocates who were and Randy Weingarten, the National Federation

1934
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 1: a Teachers president, tried to she's trying to rewrite history now,

1935
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 1: saying that she was never in favor of closing down

1936
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Speaker 1: the school, but it was all about the teachers union.

1937
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:36,720
Speaker 1: The teachers union, one of hey time off for getting paid. Yeah,

1938
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Speaker 1: we're all about that, correct, But when when parents were

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Speaker 1: looking over the shoulder of their kids who were doing

1940
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Speaker 1: work at home and they're looking at the computers, they're saying,

1941
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Speaker 1: my kid is being taught this, And that's that's what

1942
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Speaker 1: gave rise to like Moms for Liberty and organizations like

1943
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Speaker 1: that that went into the schools and said, hey, this

1944
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Speaker 1: woke nonsense. It has got to stop. But by that

1945
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Speaker 1: time it's still I mean, they're still trying to root

1946
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Speaker 1: it out, but a lot of that is so deeply

1947
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Speaker 1: ingrained that it has been a very tough slog. But

1948
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Speaker 1: thank god that some of these organizations are onto it,

1949
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Speaker 1: because we might still be in a position where all

1950
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Speaker 1: this is happening in the schools and we really don't

1951
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Speaker 1: have very much awareness of it.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

1953
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Speaker 12: I mean, think about those kids, and I say this

1954
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Speaker 12: with very deep respect and reverence, who don't have the

1955
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Speaker 12: same structures as other families have, and their kids weren't

1956
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Speaker 12: sitting on the computer at home doing their work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for two years, right, they were tardy from that.

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Speaker 12: And since any public in my opinion, they don't do

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Speaker 12: the self reporting to tell us the ramifications of all

1960
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Speaker 12: of that, Well, I'm just sharing with you that my.

1961
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Speaker 1: People in the in the administration and teachers at public

1962
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Speaker 1: schools who were telling me privately back then that even

1963
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Speaker 1: though these kids were not showing up in a virtual

1964
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Speaker 1: sense still in the work on their computers, that they

1965
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 1: were not doing the assign they just they were vanished.

1966
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Speaker 1: They were not there. But the schools could not fail

1967
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Speaker 1: them because of the lawsuits that were going to come

1968
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Speaker 1: if they if they dared to fail them. So even

1969
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Speaker 1: though those kids might have passed with d's or whatever

1970
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Speaker 1: the case may be, Cincinnati Public couldn't fail it. They

1971
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Speaker 1: had they had no choice, even though these kids and

1972
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Speaker 1: didn't put in the time, didn't put in the work,

1973
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Speaker 1: didn't do any of what was required. So that there's

1974
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Speaker 1: that that whole cross section of students who were affected

1975
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Speaker 1: at that time. That I mean, I don't know if

1976
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Speaker 1: we have any idea but just like you said, of

1977
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Speaker 1: how how bad it but all the studies that have

1978
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Speaker 1: been done, everyone who's looked at this has said, these

1979
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:44,960
Speaker 1: consequences are.

1980
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Speaker 2: Very, very bad, and they're playing out right now, Dan Carroll.

1981
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Speaker 12: We have a choice right now to elect a business minded, pragmatist,

1982
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Speaker 12: home got homeboy from Cincinnati versus someone who is who

1983
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:04,559
Speaker 12: has who villainized this success or has zero policy vision

1984
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Speaker 12: for the state. That's our choice as we go into

1985
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Speaker 12: the gubernatorial race. I look forward to the debates that

1986
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Speaker 12: will happen. I just hope that they get down in

1987
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Speaker 12: the weeds like you and I are talking about how

1988
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 12: were our children impacted in this period of time, And

1989
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Speaker 12: I can tell you that I was so blessed. I'm Catholic,

1990
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Speaker 12: my family is Catholic. My daughter, you know, had access

1991
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Speaker 12: to Saint Clement. Anybody listening as Saint Clement. I love you, guys,

1992
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Speaker 12: I appreciate you. And then she pivoted over to Setan.

1993
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Speaker 12: Setan never closed. Setan was always There's same thing as

1994
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Speaker 12: you said with Elder and Saint X.

1995
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Speaker 2: Why were they able to do it?

1996
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Speaker 12: Get it done, keep our kids safe, keep their education

1997
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Speaker 12: on track, and the public school system couldn't do it.

1998
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Speaker 1: Well, we know that you have been an advocate for

1999
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Speaker 1: vivik Ramaswami in the strongest you've done. You've done events

2000
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Speaker 1: with him. I imagine you'll probably do some between now

2001
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Speaker 1: and the election. Absolutely, yeah, which and I think Viveca

2002
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 1: is the right guy. But I heard some and we

2003
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 1: got to get to a break here. But before we

2004
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Speaker 1: get to that, I wanted to just set up this

2005
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Speaker 1: next question for you. I was listening to some political

2006
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Speaker 1: analysis yesterday and they were talking about how the vake

2007
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 1: is is facing some difficulty. Now that is somehow Amy

2008
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 1: Acton is picking up steam and her campaign is getting

2009
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:34,760
Speaker 1: things together and Leveke is in trouble right now. That

2010
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Speaker 1: that was the analysis I heard. So I'm going to

2011
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Speaker 1: ask you when we come back from this break, do

2012
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Speaker 1: you think that is true or not? You got it,

2013
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Speaker 1: So we'll get the Chris Smithman analysis. You got it,

2014
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,720
Speaker 1: and we will counter what I heard last night. So

2015
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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens there. Five one, three, seven, fifty

2016
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Speaker 1: five hundred. If you yourself have a question of the

2017
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Speaker 1: one and only Chris Smithman, as we roll on till

2018
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Speaker 1: nine this morning on fifty five KRC, the talk station

2019
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Speaker 1: This was your week, Darren Detak Station eight nineteen, Dan

2020
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Speaker 1: Carolyn for Brian Thomas and Chris Mithman. As we went

2021
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Speaker 1: to break last time, we were talking about argubernatorial candidate

2022
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Speaker 1: with vike Ramaswami and guess who's on the phone, Vacant.

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Speaker 1: It's great to have you on fifty five KRC this morning.

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Speaker 1: How are you, Good.

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Speaker 5: Morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 7: I had a few minutes. I'll call him and say hello,

2027
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Speaker 7: And you know, I was in my hometown of Cincinnati

2028
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Speaker 7: over the weekend. We had a great time and good

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Speaker 7: to talk to you guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you listening to fifty five KRC. I

2031
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Speaker 1: was talking about some political analysis that I heard over

2032
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Speaker 1: the weekend, and I'm looking at Newsweek right now and

2033
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Speaker 1: they're saying that you're trailing Amy Acton by ten points

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Speaker 1: right now. How can that possibly how can that possibly

2035
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Speaker 1: be true?

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Speaker 7: Well, I think what you saw is that we came

2037
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Speaker 7: out with a massive, massive push on our message, including

2038
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Speaker 7: from all of the great fundraising we had last year,

2039
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Speaker 7: and within hour of that coming out, I think the

2040
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Speaker 7: Democrats who were in a tizzy and they put out

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Speaker 7: what we view as a.

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Speaker 8: Real fake piece of old dated literature.

2043
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Speaker 7: That they manufactured a while ago, but they were caught

2044
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Speaker 7: flat footed. It's a good sign for us in the end.

2045
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Speaker 7: I'm not a horse race guy. I'm not in this

2046
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Speaker 7: to run against any particular one candidate. Amy act that

2047
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Speaker 7: I think will be a disaster for our state on

2048
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Speaker 7: many levels. But more importantly, I'm in this toled Ohio

2049
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Speaker 7: to greater heights than we've ever seen because we have

2050
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Speaker 7: a historic opportunity to step on the gas for our economy.

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Speaker 5: Right we have.

2052
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Speaker 7: We're doing great as a state in many ways. But

2053
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Speaker 7: the way I'm looking at this is I'm a businessman.

2054
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Speaker 8: I know how to do this.

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Speaker 7: Let's bring high paying jobs back to our state. Let's

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Speaker 7: take our income tax rate eventually down to zero. Let's

2057
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:48,320
Speaker 7: bring that property tax burden down. And in a lot

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Speaker 7: of our sectors, the regulatory burden is too high. We

2059
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:54,120
Speaker 7: have too many layers of government. Even as a red state,

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Speaker 7: we can fix that. That's ultimately how you address this

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01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 7: rising challenge of affordability is put more money back in

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Speaker 7: your pockets and increase wealth. Many people in the Democrat camp,

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Speaker 7: including my opponent, who liked to villainize success, who like

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Speaker 7: to villainize financial success, I want financial success for every

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Speaker 7: Ohio and I've achieved that. I was born and raised

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Speaker 7: in Cincinnati, went to public schools through eighth grade, went

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Speaker 7: to Stax for high school. I was so grateful to

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Speaker 7: this state, into this country for giving me the opportunities

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Speaker 7: that I've had in my life. We're raising our kids

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Speaker 7: now in Ohio and circumstances that frankly, my parents would

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Speaker 7: have never imagined when I grew up in Westchester and

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Speaker 7: when we.

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Speaker 1: Grew up in Evendale.

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Speaker 7: But the reality is we have a chance to give

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Speaker 7: every kid in this state that opportunity and much more

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Speaker 7: someone who really knows what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you about education, because I

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Speaker 1: know this is something that is very very important to you.

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Speaker 1: And Chris and I were talking a few minutes ago

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Speaker 1: about the manifestations of these kids who were affected during

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Speaker 1: the Wuhan, who missed out on serious amounts of schooling,

2082
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 1: and we're seeing those effects taking place right now. How

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01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 1: do you address that in a meaningful way if you

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Speaker 1: were to become governor.

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Speaker 7: So, look, we had to bring standards back to our

2086
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Speaker 7: public schools. That's something that's been missing for a long time.

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Speaker 7: We've got to be willing to say. We used to

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Speaker 7: have the third grade reading guarantee in Ohio.

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Speaker 11: We got rid of it.

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Speaker 7: I think we got to bring that back to say

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Speaker 7: that if you can't read by the end of third grade,

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01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:29,400
Speaker 7: then you shouldn't go to fourth grade in general until

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01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 7: you can.

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Speaker 1: Is that asking too level for crying out loud? Is

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01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:37,040
Speaker 1: it if we asking too much there? I don't think so.

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Speaker 7: Just to be clear on this one, it's not even

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01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:42,480
Speaker 7: I'm not even talking about reading out a third grade level,

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Speaker 7: which is what we actually need. I'm saying that at minimum,

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01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 7: you have to be able to read it at the

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Speaker 7: end of third grade.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 7: Many students are able to read by kindergarten or first grade,

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Speaker 7: but it should at least be by the end of

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Speaker 7: third grade. That's what sets up a student for success

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Speaker 7: in their life. And you brought up the virus, right,

2106
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Speaker 7: this is important to understand. The person that I'm running

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01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:04,840
Speaker 7: against is the person who led the crusade as health

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01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:08,480
Speaker 7: director to shut down our public schools. Ohio was the

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Speaker 7: first state in the country to shut down our public schools.

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Speaker 7: As I told you, I grew up in Cincinnati. I

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Speaker 7: went to public schools myself through eighth grade. Before going

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Speaker 7: to Saint X. Saint X was closed for five days

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Speaker 7: during the pandemic, Cincinnati public schools were closed for nearly

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Speaker 7: two years. Those kids in those public schools will never

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Speaker 7: get those two years of their education back. And this

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Speaker 7: is the crucial point because the very people, including my

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Speaker 7: opponent who I'm running against, who will preach about inequality,

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Speaker 7: advance the policies that create that inequality. So chances are

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Speaker 7: next time it won't be a pandemic or a virus.

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Speaker 7: It'll be some other question that we don't know about today.

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Speaker 7: But the question is how does the leader make decisions?

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Speaker 7: And to me, I make decisions that advance the learning

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Speaker 7: of our kids, not the bureaucracy that really runs our

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Speaker 7: public schools today. Certain leaders bend the knee and cater

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Speaker 7: to that bureaucracy. I'm a leader when it comes to

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Speaker 7: education who stands for our students. And the same thing

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Speaker 7: goes with respect our economy. You have many leaders, including

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01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 7: on the other side, including my opponent, who bend the

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01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:14,360
Speaker 7: knee to the bureaucracy that regulates our economy. I actually

2130
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:18,240
Speaker 7: focus on empowering the small business owners and the entrepreneurs

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Speaker 7: who create economic growth. That's the choice we face right,

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Speaker 7: It comes down to very simple choices. You want your

2133
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Speaker 7: property taxes to go down, I'm your man. If you

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Speaker 7: want them to go up, vote for Amy Afton and

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Speaker 7: the Democratic camp. Same thing with respect to ever income

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Speaker 7: in the state. That's what I know how to bring.

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Speaker 7: But if you put somebody who's a far left in

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Speaker 7: some cases even socialist leaning leader like they have in

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Speaker 7: New York City, your business is fleeing our state in droves,

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Speaker 7: and it would be a shame to set back all

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Speaker 7: the progress that we've.

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Speaker 1: Had in Ohio. One more to bring to the table.

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Speaker 1: One more question before I let you go. We're getting

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Speaker 1: up against the clock here. Early on in your campaign

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Speaker 1: you talked about how as governor you could help cities

2146
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Speaker 1: like Cincinnati deal with crime issues, and that's something that

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Speaker 1: Chris and I were talking about earlier today. As governor,

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Speaker 1: how can you reach down into cities like Cincinnati and

2149
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Speaker 1: other cities in Ohio and help them deal with the

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Speaker 1: crime issues that they're plagued with daily basis.

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Speaker 7: It's a great question. It's the same way we're dealing

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Speaker 7: with our public schools. Bring standards back to law enforcement,

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Speaker 7: expectations for local governments and they're not getting state funding

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Speaker 7: automatically unless they're really meeting those standards. And as somebody

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Speaker 7: who grew up in Cincinnati, right, you look at the

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Speaker 7: journey of a place like over the Rhine, where it

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Speaker 7: was when I was growing up, right, it was a

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Speaker 7: place where we were warned not to go to having

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Speaker 7: a renaissance, but then now parts of the city receding

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Speaker 7: back into being places where older citizens aren't even comfortable

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Speaker 7: walking around. I was talking to two people over the

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Speaker 7: weekend in Hamilton County who are an older couple say

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Speaker 7: they're now scared to walk around now that they live

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Speaker 7: in an apartment in the city. That's unacceptable. But we

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Speaker 7: can say, empower our great police officers. I do back

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Speaker 7: the blue. I do back our men and women in uniform.

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Speaker 7: Empower them to be able to do their jobs without

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Speaker 7: fear of looking over their shoulder for being sued. Fix

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Speaker 7: some of the judicial system issues with judicial reforms that

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Speaker 7: say that you are not going to just send a

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Speaker 7: violent repeat offender back on the street with forty dollars

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Speaker 7: of bail or no bail, as it's happening regularly. And

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Speaker 7: then let's also bring back some of the mental health care,

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Speaker 7: including mental health institutions where necessary, because our jails are

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Speaker 7: not the right form of mental health care for the

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Speaker 7: psychiatrically ill. In some corners, those are controversial things to say,

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Speaker 7: but for most Ohiglands, for most Cincinnatians, this is just

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Speaker 7: common sense. It's not black versus white, it's not red

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Speaker 7: versus blue. This is about common sense and standing for

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Speaker 7: the people of Cincinnati. My hometown have really unnecessarily suffered.

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Speaker 7: One of the great cities in the United States of

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Speaker 7: America is not reaching its full potential because of that

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Speaker 7: fear of crime. And when I'm governed to the buck

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Speaker 7: stops with me. All Right, We're not going to pass

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Speaker 7: the hot potato to say well, the local government didn't

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Speaker 7: do this, or that there's a lot of funding that

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Speaker 7: comes from the state. It's not going to be automatic.

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Speaker 7: We're going to apply standards. We're going to do it

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Speaker 7: in a sensible way. And I think a lot of people,

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Speaker 7: many including many of them have historically voted Democrat in

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Speaker 7: the urban core in the inner city, are going to

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Speaker 7: be better off and understand they're going to be better off,

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Speaker 7: and I really invite them to join our coalition. You

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Speaker 7: don't have to agree with me on one hundred percent

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Speaker 7: of issues. To know that I'm going to crush crime,

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Speaker 7: including in cities like Cincinnati. I'm going to improve the

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Speaker 7: performance of our public schools, including Cincinnati public schools. And

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Speaker 7: we're going to bring high paying jobs to Cincinnatians, to

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Speaker 7: southwest Ohio and to every part of Ohio. And that

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Speaker 7: isn't about right versus left. That is about up versus down,

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Speaker 7: and I stand for up for Ohio.

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Speaker 5: So a lot of.

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Speaker 7: Democrats who feel like they've been left behind by their party,

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Speaker 7: you know what, there is a better way with a

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Speaker 7: pragmatic business leader. A lot of independents who may feel

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Speaker 7: politically homeless, You've got a place in our coalition. You

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Speaker 7: have a home right here in this movement for Ohio.

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Speaker 7: And for me, standing up for my hometown of Cincinnati

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Speaker 7: is top of the list. And we will make sure

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Speaker 7: that we're successful and seeing this through.

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Speaker 1: And appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: Appreciate you having me.

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Speaker 2: Man, Thank you, Vivig, thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 12: This is Christopher and I just want to say that

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Speaker 12: the two commercials that your team released this weekend, they're awesome.

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Speaker 12: I really like the introduction of the soon to be

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Speaker 12: first lady, your wife, your children, really just introducing you

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Speaker 12: and your family to the state of Ohio. But I

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Speaker 12: also like the other commercial that outlines Hey affordability talking

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Speaker 12: about supporting law and order our police. We need a

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Speaker 12: leader like that at the state level to deal with

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Speaker 12: the serious issues that are facing the state of Ohio.

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Speaker 12: So I just want to thank you for those very

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Speaker 12: excellent commercials that I saw released this weekend.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate that, Christopher. And look, I'm a family man

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Speaker 7: at the end of it, and that's why I'm motivated

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Speaker 7: to do this is we just welcomed our third kid,

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Speaker 7: our first daughter, into the world a little over a

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Speaker 7: month ago. And you know, sometimes you look yourself in

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Speaker 7: the mirror and ask yourself, why am I doing all

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Speaker 7: of this? And I'm doing it because I want our

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Speaker 7: kids and their generation to have the same opportunities that

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Speaker 7: I have. You know, I'm not in this for the money.

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Speaker 7: Thankfully we've been blessed. I'm not in this for fame.

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Speaker 7: There's other ways to get that than running in a

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Speaker 7: state specific election, and I've come from that. I'm in

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Speaker 7: this because I know I can make a difference. I

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Speaker 7: know we can lead Ohio to be the top state

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Speaker 7: in the country. For our kids, for our families, for

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Speaker 7: their generation. Mean, Christopher, you're a living example of that

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Speaker 7: American dream yourself, right. I love your story. I love

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Speaker 7: your success both as a businessman but also as an advocate,

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Speaker 7: somebody who believed in public service. And you know, unlike me,

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Speaker 7: you're not a Republican right here, You're an independent. But

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Speaker 7: it doesn't matter, because the issues we're talking about are

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Speaker 7: common sense issues that are going to lift up the

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Speaker 7: lives of Ohioans. Protect them in our cities, bring back

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Speaker 7: law and order, bring back accelerating economic growth, increase those wages,

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Speaker 7: bring down those electric bills and other costs that we

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Speaker 7: know we can bring down, and most importantly, over the

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Speaker 7: long run, improve the quality of education for our kids.

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Speaker 7: I don't know anybody who disagrees with that, all right,

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Speaker 7: So I think that's why I'm running for governor. And

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Speaker 7: we'll be able to win this decisively with the support

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Speaker 7: of your listeners, which I immensely appreciate.

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Speaker 1: All Right, But thek We'll have to leave it there.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for picking up the phone, Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: to fifty five KRC. Glad to know you're there, and

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Speaker 1: we'll hopefully we'll get a chance to talk to you

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Speaker 1: again before too long.

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Speaker 8: Love it, Thank you?

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Vike Ramaswami running for governor outstanding.

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Speaker 1: We got to get to a break on fifty five

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Speaker 1: K Talk station fifty five KRC, Dan Carroll from Brian

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Speaker 1: and Thomas hanging out with Chris Smytheman and the vike

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Speaker 1: Ramaswami took up a little bit of time there. So

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Speaker 1: this will be a short segment. You okay with that?

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Speaker 1: Can you do a short segment?

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Speaker 11: I can do it.

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Speaker 2: I can do it short man.

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Speaker 12: Hey, look if possible for you. Yeah, if he had

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Speaker 12: even more time and we would just sit back and continue.

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Speaker 1: Him fantastic stretch out. He's fantastic. I think we would

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Speaker 1: be extremely fortunate to have a guy like that in

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Speaker 1: UH in the Governor's mansion and UH and running things

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Speaker 1: here in Ohio. I just think, I mean, he he's

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Speaker 1: he's bold, he's unafraid.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He supports Trump and and and the one part of

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Speaker 1: his campaign that I like is talking about how the

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Speaker 1: vision that he has for Ohio ties in with what

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Speaker 1: Trump has done. And he's got intimate knowledge of Trump

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Speaker 1: and his agenda and what he wants to do because

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Speaker 1: he was working, and I would I really wish he

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Speaker 1: would have been on the Doge team. Yes, I really

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Speaker 1: think that would have been an important thing. But he,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's he had his own way to go,

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Speaker 1: which I appreciate that, and I'm perfectly fine with that.

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Speaker 1: But tying that in and making that work seamlessly with

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Speaker 1: what with Trump is trying to do, I think can

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Speaker 1: only be good for Ohio in a lot of different there.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know a lot of people that don't

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Speaker 1: want to have anything to do with Trump, but I

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Speaker 1: think in the long run, I think it'd be great

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Speaker 1: for this state.

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Speaker 12: Look, I love hearing him talk about common sense issues.

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Speaker 12: I love hearing him. I love hearing him talk about

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Speaker 12: you know, accountability. These are things that are lost in

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Speaker 12: our government. I mean, we're watching states involved with like

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Speaker 12: in Minnesota, with all of this corruption that's happening, and

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Speaker 12: so having somebody acutely in the state House, in the

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Speaker 12: mansion who understands business is going to be critical for

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Speaker 12: the next eight years in my opinion, for the state

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Speaker 12: of Ohio.

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Speaker 2: So what a great interview.

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Speaker 12: I hope all of your listening audiences heard that we

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Speaker 12: should be registering our eighteen year olds to vote like

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Speaker 12: I did.

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Speaker 2: My daughter turned eighteen.

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Speaker 12: I registered her to vote so that she can vote

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Speaker 12: in the primary, she can vote in the general election.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of people.

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Speaker 12: Around this state who have families whose children, Dan Carroll,

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Speaker 12: are turning eighteen and going to make the mistake to

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Speaker 12: allow their college is to register them to vote. Do

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Speaker 12: not allow your child to go away to college without

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Speaker 12: registering the vote.

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Speaker 1: I said, this has got to be a short segment.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know who else was listening, brad Winstrop

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Speaker 1: Congress Now he's on the hotway. Here we go. So

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Speaker 1: we'll do this break and we'll get to the congressman

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Speaker 1: Winstrip right after this. On fifty five kr CV talk stations.

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Speaker 1: It's like nothing to it, right. Chris Smitheman is with

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Speaker 1: us in studio this morning, and when Chris Smitheman is here,

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Speaker 1: the celebrity hotline just blows up. So we just got

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Speaker 1: done talking with a Vike Ramaswami. Now we turn to

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Speaker 1: the former congressman. Well, I guess they'm never really a

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Speaker 1: former congressman, but you know it's all. It's my pleasure

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Speaker 1: to welcome in brad Winstrip to the show today. And Congressman,

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Speaker 1: how are you today.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing fine.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: It's been a pleasure to listen to two of my friends,

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Speaker 6: top common Sense, actually three with the Theke coming on the.

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Speaker 1: He's terrific. And we were talking about a little bit

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Speaker 1: about Amy acting and what was going on during the Wuhan.

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Speaker 1: And I was telling Chris, it was several months ago

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Speaker 1: when your committee came out with the report on what

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Speaker 1: happened during the COVID nineteen and just how eye opening

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Speaker 1: and how revealing that report was. And I still remember

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Speaker 1: that day. You sat right across from me and we

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Speaker 1: had an hour in the studio to talk about that

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Speaker 1: and really only scratch the surface of what was revealed

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Speaker 1: during that time. But the educational aspect of this is

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Speaker 1: something that I think gets overlooked a lot. And the

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Speaker 1: damage that was in Avik talked about that, the damage

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Speaker 1: that was done to these kids by the way they

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Speaker 1: were handled during the Wuhan and really how they were

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Speaker 1: poorly served. The Teachers' Union was probably served just fine,

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Speaker 1: but when it came to actually dealing with the kids,

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Speaker 1: they got the short end of the stick.

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Speaker 7: You know. It was interesting.

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Speaker 6: We had Randy Weingarten and for an open hearing, and

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Speaker 6: the day before her people came in counted how many

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Speaker 6: seats are in the hearing room. They made sure that

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Speaker 6: they brought in all their people and took up every

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Speaker 6: seat in the hearing room to be there to support her.

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Speaker 6: But you know, we conducted the entire two year pandemic

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Speaker 6: review in a way that you don't see very often

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Speaker 6: in two years. On the Republican side, we didn't mention

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Speaker 6: Republican or Democrat. One time. We didn't talk about political party.

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Speaker 6: But you know, when she was in there, she was

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Speaker 6: getting kudos from the Democrats. But as we went through

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Speaker 6: things and we were able to go through their emails

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Speaker 6: during this time and what they were talking about. One

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Speaker 6: of the things that stood out with the conversations amongst

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Speaker 6: the teachers' union leadership was that they said we need

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Speaker 6: a trigger to close. Not once did I find anything

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Speaker 6: that said we need to get the kids back in

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Speaker 6: the classroom. It's important that we get them caught up.

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Speaker 6: They're never going to be able to succeed if we

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Speaker 6: don't get them in the classroom and teaching them one

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Speaker 6: way or another.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't I don't want to interrupt you, but

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Speaker 1: was that the hearing where she was trying to rewrite history,

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Speaker 1: where she was saying I never advocated for schools to

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Speaker 1: be closed. We were the ones who were trying to

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Speaker 1: get them reopen.

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Speaker 10: Was that?

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Speaker 1: Was that the hearing where she was trying to do that.

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Speaker 6: She she did have statements like that, and then I

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Speaker 6: think there was some group they worked with, maybe in

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Speaker 6: Massachusetts later to talk about school reopenings, but that was

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Speaker 6: way late in the whole situation. And what you guys

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Speaker 6: were talking about is fair. You know, there was a

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Speaker 6: There were the schools, and I would tell you my

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Speaker 6: rural schools were open too, and the district that I

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Speaker 6: represented went all the way to West Virginia and the

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Speaker 6: rural schools they went to class, They went to class.

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Speaker 6: It was more city based than anywhere else. But it

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Speaker 6: was it was a problem, for sure, and they'd done nothing,

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Speaker 6: and they still that I know, have not addressed how

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Speaker 6: we're going to get at our kids up up to speed.

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Speaker 6: And we're falling terribly behind other countries as we know.

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Speaker 6: I saw recently one has said a seventh grader in

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Speaker 6: America on average, is at the level of a third

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Speaker 6: grader in China.

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Speaker 1: How about that? Let me ask you another question about

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Speaker 1: something that has come up recently, and Scott Assent, the

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Speaker 1: Secretary of the Treasury, said it was probably three or

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Speaker 1: four weeks ago that he was looking at putting a

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Speaker 1: number on the amount of fraud that goes on with

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Speaker 1: various government programs, and he put that number at six

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Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars every year, brad winstrip that gets wasted

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Speaker 1: and is just flushed down the drain. As it relates

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Speaker 1: to fraud in this country. The number is probably actually

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Speaker 1: bigger than that. But when you hear a number like

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Speaker 1: that every single year that we are losing six hundred

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Speaker 1: billion dollars, it's a fraud in this country. Does that

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Speaker 1: do you or surprise you at all? The number is

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Speaker 1: that big?

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Speaker 6: Not at this point it might. It might have surprised

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Speaker 6: me when I first started in Congress, but it didn't

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Speaker 6: when I got towards the end, because I could see

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Speaker 6: exactly why this was happening in so many fronts. Part

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Speaker 6: of it is that the agencies don't really have the

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Speaker 6: capabilities to catch fraud. And then the other thing is

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Speaker 6: when we went through the COVID era, for example, on

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Speaker 6: Ways and Means Committee, when they were talking about unemployment

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Speaker 6: and taking care of those benefits and getting all that out.

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Speaker 6: The Democrats insisted on self attestation, in other words, you

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Speaker 6: didn't have to prove in any way, shape and shape

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Speaker 6: or form really who you were and are you really unemployed?

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Speaker 6: And we thought that and they insisted on, no, you

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Speaker 6: don't have to attest and improve in any way. It's

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Speaker 6: kind of goes with the voting thing. You don't have

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Speaker 6: to prove really who you are. And I don't get this,

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Speaker 6: but it's created a lot of mayhem. Certainly has ripped

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Speaker 6: off the taxpayers. So everyone who goes to work and

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Speaker 6: pay taxes need to know that it's these types of

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Speaker 6: policies and deficiencies within the agencies that is throwing their

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Speaker 6: hard on dollars out the window to people not only

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Speaker 6: in this country that are committing fraud, but overseas.

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Speaker 1: As you look at why it has become impossible to

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Speaker 1: pass legislation that would deal with voter identification. Why has

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Speaker 1: this debate gone the way it's gone.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think that they have their reasons. They'll try

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Speaker 6: and throw out everything is is Jim Crow and this

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Speaker 6: and that, but they know that they can go around

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Speaker 6: and rally people to vote in California, you know, going

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Speaker 6: door to door, the policies are somewhat crazy, and requiring

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Speaker 6: an ID would make it more difficult for them to

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Speaker 6: be able to do that, I guess is their reason,

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Speaker 6: but there really is no good reason. Everything requires an

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Speaker 6: ID today and they know it. And I think that

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Speaker 6: real American citizens, people that care about this country, people

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Speaker 6: that value their citizenship, will be the ones to say, yes,

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Speaker 6: you should value your citizenship the same way I do,

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Speaker 6: and prove that you are a US citizen and you

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Speaker 6: are who you are. And I think the majority of people,

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Speaker 6: as we know, this is a common sense issue that

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Speaker 6: has high value, and I don't understand why they want

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Speaker 6: to keep pursuing just the opposite. It doesn't even make play.

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Speaker 1: Eighty plus percent of Republicans agree with this, Seventy six

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Speaker 1: seventy seven percent of Democrats want this. You've got Hispanics

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Speaker 1: and other minorities in the seventy percent range that want this,

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Speaker 1: and the notion that we can't get the Save America

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Speaker 1: Act through and have common sense legislation that says, you know,

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Speaker 1: we want American citizens to vote in our elections and

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Speaker 1: we don't want illegal aliens voting in our elections. It

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Speaker 1: just a If you would have told me ten years

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Speaker 1: ago that we'd be having a problem getting legislation like

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Speaker 1: this approved, especially when Republicans have control of the White House,

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Speaker 1: the House, and the Senate, I would have said that

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Speaker 1: you're crazy about that.

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Speaker 6: Well, of course, the problem predominantly lives in the Senate.

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Speaker 6: And let's just face it, there are just too many

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Speaker 6: people in the Democrat Party that if Donald Trump says

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Speaker 6: he's in favor of something, they will be against it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, just you watch it visibly during the State

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Speaker 6: of the Union. I mean, the wonderful things that he

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Speaker 6: was pointing out many times they couldn't even applaud because.

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Speaker 1: He said it.

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Speaker 6: And when you let your hatred dominate your common sense

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Speaker 6: and overrule your common sense, it's really a problem for

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Speaker 6: us as a country, especially if you're in a position

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Speaker 6: of leadership serving in the House of the Senate. That

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Speaker 6: is a problem for America today and I'm ashamed that

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Speaker 6: some people can't get over it. And it's been interesting

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Speaker 6: to hear the comments from John Fetterman and Democrat senator

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Speaker 6: who seems to be going in the other direction from

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Speaker 6: many of his Democrat colleague.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a he's turned out to be a bit

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Speaker 1: of a surprise, and it turned out to be actually

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02:16:12,240 --> 02:16:15,600
Speaker 1: courageous in the fact that and he's not doing anything

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02:16:16,160 --> 02:16:19,640
Speaker 1: that's all that radical. He's simply looking at the facts

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02:16:19,680 --> 02:16:22,200
Speaker 1: and the truth of the situation and speaking truth to

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Speaker 1: what's actually going on. But brad Winstrip, we're up against

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Speaker 1: the clock. We got to run. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for checking in this morning, and Chris Smitheman has something

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Speaker 1: for you real quick.

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Speaker 2: Congressman, thank you so much for coming on.

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Speaker 12: Great and both both Dan Carroll and I and I

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Speaker 12: think I thanked him for his service, and we thank

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Speaker 12: you for your service, your military service to our country.

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Speaker 6: Well same of you, fellas. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: God bless you.

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Speaker 1: All right. Brad Winstrop, thank you very much. Take care

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Speaker 1: of yourself, have a great day. Eight forty nine, We

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Speaker 1: got to get to a break on fifty five krc

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Speaker 1: detalk station, fifty five KRC dot com talk station. Excellent,

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Speaker 1: all right, fifty five KRCV talk station, getting ready to

2504
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Speaker 1: wrap things up with Chris Smitheman in studio for the

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Speaker 1: last couple of hours. So uh seven and nine this morning.

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Speaker 1: It has flown right by, and not only did we

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Speaker 1: have a viake Ramas Swami check in. We had brad

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Speaker 1: Winstrip checking in as well, so you'll be Joe will

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Speaker 1: people be able to listen to that on the podcast

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Speaker 1: a little bit later, So you can check that out

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Speaker 1: on the podcast a little bit later on this morning.

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Speaker 1: But Chris, we've got about a minute and a half here.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you the final word.

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Speaker 12: No, thanks for having me on. People can follow me

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Speaker 12: at vote Smitherman. I like that because I'm trying to

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Speaker 12: create a community on x where I can continue to

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Speaker 12: communicate in between the week in between the Monday.

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Speaker 2: So I thank you Dan Carroll for having me on,

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Speaker 2: and I've enjoyed my time with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I appreciate you being here, especially during your

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Speaker 1: busy time, and appreciate vi vike Ramas. It's it's so

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Speaker 1: cool to know that Vi vike Ramas Swami and brad

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Speaker 1: Winstrip and many others are listening to us, listening to

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Speaker 1: the conversation. Yeah, I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty it's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 12: And I and I said in the break, it would

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Speaker 12: be nice to have the other candidates coming and calling

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Speaker 12: in and giving you an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I like about.

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Speaker 1: That's just it. I mean, Joe Strucker, if if if

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Speaker 1: I'm not look, I'm not here every day. But if

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Speaker 1: Amy Acton called in and wanted to come on and show,

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Speaker 1: I'd be more than happy. And I mean Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: would be more than happy to have her on. And

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Speaker 1: he has on candidates from from any any political strike.

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Speaker 1: He has them on all the time. So it's the phones.

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Speaker 1: Are you know ours? It's right. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: to say radio in Spanish me radio radio.

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Speaker 12: But that's one of the things that I like about

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Speaker 12: vive A and and and and and many in many

2542
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Speaker 12: of his peers. They go on all the shows.

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Speaker 2: They don't mind.

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02:18:45,280 --> 02:18:48,080
Speaker 12: They make themselves available to the American people. I don't

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Speaker 12: see the same from the other side.

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Speaker 1: All right, we got to run. Thanks about Chris, Thank

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Speaker 1: you man. Great great time, really great time to go

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Speaker 1: to work now, buddy, gotta go to work. Be careful.

2549
02:18:57,440 --> 02:19:00,280
Speaker 1: I know you're driving around the city, so be careful

2550
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Speaker 1: out there and we'll see you next time. Glenn Beck

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Speaker 1: is coming up next. Joe Streker, thank you for everything.

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Speaker 1: I get to see you again tomorrow morning. So I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to that on fifty