1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Seven six, fifty five KRCD talk station, trying to make 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: it to have your money and stand the hell off 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: the roads. That's what Hammond County Sheriff said, Hamilton County 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: snow Level three SNOW emergency. All roads are closed in 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: on emergency personnel. No one should be driving a list 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: it's a personal emergency. On that note, welcome back to 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: the fifty five krc Morning Show. Not necessarily to talk 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: about the road conditions. Welcome back FOP President Ken kob Are, 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: representing the Cincinni Police Department. Always a great to have 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: you on the program. 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: Ken, say, good morning, Brian, thanks for having me. 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: It's pleasure, and of course to talk about the rules 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: of engagement given what happened in Minneapolis over the weekend. 14 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: But before we get to that, can I talk about 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: the roads just real quick here? First off, there is 16 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: a Stage three emergency. I understand that. What does it 17 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: mean to my listening audience. Does this mean they're not 18 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: legally allowed to drive unless it's a personal emergency. I mean, 19 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: I guess I'm wondering what the true effect is. I 20 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: know no one should be out on the roads because 21 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: they suck, but beyond that, legally speaking, what does it mean? 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're gonna it's gonna be hard pressed 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: to be able to enforce this. Now, I will say 24 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: that does make sense. I mean I talked to cops 25 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: that are working third shift. They're like this, the roads 26 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: are impassable. They are so I think the whole point 27 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: of that is, listen, if you absolutely don't need to 28 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: be on the road, don't be on the road. You know, 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 2: hopefully just saying look, this is what could happen would 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: be enough, because you know, if the police stop somebody 31 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: driving sideways down we'll say Reddick Road or you name 32 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: it whatever, Central Parkway, and they go, oh, yeah, I 33 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: was just going to see if there was a liquor 34 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: store open, they might have a problem to think. You know, 35 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: look I'm trying to get to the hospital, or look, 36 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: i have to be at work because my business isn't closed. 37 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: They're they're going to certainly allow you to get there. 38 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: But if you don't need to be on the roads, 39 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: don't be on the roads because they are terrible. Right now, well, I. 40 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: Think you already answered my question kind of about law enforcement. 41 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: I was thinking of you and and dealing with you know, 42 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: terrible road conditions in the past. What does it mean 43 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: for the law enforcement officers and you guys are driving 44 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: around a rear wheel drive Sedan's for the most part, 45 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: do you change vehicles to deal with issues? 46 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: Now? 47 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: Obviously we have to anticipate a much slower reaction time, 48 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: to the extent we call nine to one one. 49 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it can put chains on the tires. 50 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: The problem is those chains only work if there's snow there. 51 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: If once roads are starting to be covered, you know, 52 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: they don't work very well on roads that don't have 53 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: snow on them. So it does make it difficult. And 54 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: that's the whole purpose is. You know, the police need 55 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: to be available for emergencies, not for somebody because they 56 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: slid off the side of the road because our car 57 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 2: got stuck because they decided they wanted a big make 58 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 2: at two o'clock in the morning. So that's where they're 59 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: trying to emphasize that, Look, the roads are really bad. 60 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: Unless you need to be out there for something that's 61 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: that dire, please just stay home. 62 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: That is sound advice, So heat it. Ken Kober says it. 63 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: Sheriff says it. I'm saying it because I've been on 64 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: the roads this morning. It's just not good out there. 65 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: All right, let's pivot over to Minneapolis. I think this 66 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: is the martyr they had been looking for. Ken my 67 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: take on it, anyway, I didn't really personally judging it 68 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: from the legal standard of reasonable and eminent apprehension of 69 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: grievous bodily harm or death. If you have that and 70 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: that feeling is reasonable, you're allowed to use deadly force 71 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: under most circumstances. Is that the standard that law enforcement 72 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: looks at as well when using deadly force? 73 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: Well? Sure, I mean you have Graham versus Connor. You know, 74 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: it's a nineteen eighty nine Supreme Court decision of what 75 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: you suf force, how you sup force can be applied, 76 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: And it's what's reasonable to the officer at the time. 77 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: Not to be watching still videos or you still frames 78 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: slowing down videos. You can't have twenty twenty hindsight. It 79 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: has to be in that moment. What did that officer 80 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: know at the time? Was it reasonable? That's what is 81 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: applied to cases like this. Now. I will say with this, 82 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: with this one in Minneapolis, whether the officer did the 83 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: right thing or not, I think it's still yet to 84 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: be seen. But you have politicians on both sides of 85 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: the aisles coming out going some of them going as 86 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: a murder, some of them going listen to, this guy 87 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: just did what he's supposed to do and without having 88 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: all the evidence. That is extremely, extremely inappropriate. But people 89 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: have already made up their minds. Now we have people 90 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: that are making AI videos, AI still images, and that's 91 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: that's the problem. Is what you know, what on the 92 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: internet is actually true and what's not, and it's well, 93 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: whatever fits my motive is what I'm going to do. 94 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: And that's that's the real problem. It's become a very 95 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: polarizing thing here in the United States. 96 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, most notably because most people are not inclined to 97 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: do the heavy research it takes to get to the truth. 98 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: They are duped by the artificial intelligence created image. They 99 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: are duped by whatever side of the political ledger website 100 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: is trying to, you know, to push people to a 101 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: certain direction. Whether the ice agent was completely appropriate, his 102 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: actions were completely appropriate and w awful, or he was 103 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: an evil murderer who gunned down an innocent individual. If 104 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: you just surround yourself with one narrative and you buy 105 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: into it because of politic if it's your political perspective, 106 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: then I think we're all lost as a society, and 107 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: it transcends what happened in Minneapolis over the weekend. But 108 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm with you completely. We need all the evidence first, 109 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: But judging from the fact that you've got it, I mean, 110 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty demonstrably true. There were three, four, 111 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: five ice agents. They had this guy tackled to the ground. 112 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: You know what, it doesn't seem likely that there will 113 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: be a circumstance that would give rise to this Oh 114 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: my god, my life is in peril. That's the thing 115 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: I think most people are struggling with and trying to 116 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: reach a conclusion, an accurate conclusion on this one. 117 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: Ken Well, sure, And like I said, you watch these 118 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: videos that blurry their grainy who knows without knowing what did? 119 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: What did these officers say? You know, you know it's 120 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: offs in the video. Like I said, I don't think. 121 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: I don't know that you can necessarily draw a conclusion 122 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: of there's one that supposedly they see them taking a 123 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: weapon from this guy. Was this guy then reaching for 124 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: someone else's gun? And like I said, I'm not saying 125 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: this is true. I'm just giving a scenario where this 126 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: could be justified, but maybe it's not. I mean, it 127 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: could be as simple as somebody had a gun out, 128 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: you know, they had an accidental discharge, and then all 129 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: of a sudden, there's sympathetic fire because people are thinking that, 130 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 2: oh this is good, this cops life in danger, they 131 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: start firing rounds. I'm not saying any of this is true, 132 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: but these are scenarios that could either show that they 133 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: were justified, it could show they're not justified. But what 134 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: they need to have, what a public should be looking 135 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: for is let's come out and see what this entire 136 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: investigation shows. Maybe these six officers, I don't know, maybe 137 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: they said listen and it was an act. I didn't 138 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: mean to fire this round, or yeah, I absolutely did 139 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: because he was grabbing the third officer's gun. I saw it, 140 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: and I knew if he got a hold of this 141 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: gun he shot some of these officers. Who knows. 142 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's certainly a valuable or a viable option 143 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: there ken we don't know yet. 144 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: No, for politicians to be outgoing this guy is a murderer, 145 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: and then you have the other side going he's justly 146 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: supposed to do. This is his job. He has right 147 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: to protect himself, you know, until they have all of 148 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: the facts. It's just it's ridiculous that it's come to this. 149 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: But we also have let's think about this, and this 150 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: is how this is how our brains work. You know, 151 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: think of as a child growing up and you got 152 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: a younger or older sibling and you guys get in 153 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: a fight. One is going to go run into mom 154 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: and dad and go, this is what happened. This is 155 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: what happened. And of course mom and dad immediately go, 156 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: that's what had does happened? Right, because that was the 157 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: first story I heard. So now you have both sides 158 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: chasing the media to get out their narrative first because 159 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: that's what some people are likely going to believe. Yeah, 160 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: and this is this is the problem with what we 161 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: have going on with society. Instead of waiting for facts 162 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: to come out, we're just going to put out what 163 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: our narrative is that supports supports whatever. You know, my 164 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: agenda is that's what we want to get out and 165 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: sort of waiting, let's get all of the facts out 166 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: and then people pass judgment. And that's just not what 167 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: we're seeing. 168 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: Well in the elephant in the room for me all 169 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: morning and it has been for a long time, is 170 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: really getting behind and finding out what the agenda is. 171 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: What do they hope to accomplish by not enforcing immigration laws, 172 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: particularly involving the elimination of the hardest core criminals from 173 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: our country. I mean, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't 174 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: embrace that. I mean, there may be some decent, wonderful 175 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants here and final they've been living their lives 176 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: for the last ten years, they should be un the 177 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: less that you can make that argument all day long, 178 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: but I mean, the focus of the Trump initiative has 179 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: been to get really evil, bad people out of neighborhoods, 180 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: and that everyone would show up to impede that operation. 181 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: That element doesn't make sense to me, and that's why 182 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm really looking for this true you know, you know, 183 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: the why behind the motive to come out. You know 184 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, no without a doubt. 185 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: And this is what's really has me kind of scratching 186 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: my head, is you know, you you're against these laws, 187 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: like you said, these these agendas, instead of you know, 188 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 2: going into your your U S Senator, your US representatives 189 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: and going listen, I don't like this law. You guys 190 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: need to change this from Capitol Hill. Now instead, what 191 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: are they doing. They're going out and they're you know, 192 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: they're blowing whistles. They're trying to interfere with ice, which 193 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: these folks are here legally doing a job. And I've 194 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:34,479 Speaker 2: actually studied human performance for science Institute is a fantastic 195 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: institute that, you mean, you can actually get certified in 196 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: being an analyst of you know, looking at human performance 197 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: uh by you know, for lack of better terms, humans 198 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: and what happens when they're under stress. You know, decision 199 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: making we know goes down when they're under stress. So 200 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: a bunch of people yelling and screaming, blowing whistles, you 201 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: were making these situations worse. I'm not saying you don't 202 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: have the right to protest, because you do have the 203 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: right to protest, But the problem is you're making this worse, 204 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: you know, by putting more stress on these agents that 205 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: are trying to do this job, just because you simply 206 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: don't like the law. And that is I mean, it's 207 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 2: not surprising that these things are happening. You know, whether 208 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: they end up being right or they end up being wrong, 209 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: that'll come out in time. But it just doesn't make 210 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: any sense, do things the right way. Never in the 211 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: United States, and we're hit a time where we go, 212 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: I don't like this law, so I'm going to resist 213 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: law enforcement. You're going to lose. It's just the bottom line, 214 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: whether it ends up losing by going to jail or 215 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: unfortunately this guy losing his life because he ends up 216 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: getting in a situation that's just a tragic one. But 217 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: people somehow have been so emboldment well, if we don't 218 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: like the law, we're just going to resist law enforcement 219 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: and think that that's okay, and it's just not. 220 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: And then going back to your earlier point, that creates 221 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: a very tense situation in the mind of the law 222 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: enforcement officer. When there's surrounded by these angry mobs constantly, 223 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: it's much more likely that's going to result in the 224 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: tragic scenario, which of course happened over the weekend. Ken Kober, 225 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: God bless you man, You and every one of the 226 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: Cincinne police officers and all law enforcement officers. I wish 227 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: you the best out there. Be careful on the roads them, 228 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: give the officers a break, folks. Just stay off the 229 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: roads of the extent possible. And Ken, I don't envy 230 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: one days like today, But then I don't envy law 231 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: enforcement generally speaking. But we sure do appreciate you and 232 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: here on the fifty five kter Same Morning Show, have 233 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: your back brother. 234 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate your support. As for your listeners as well. 235 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: Thank you. 236 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: Have a great week, my friends, Stay safe and stay warm. 237 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: Seven to seventeen Christopher Smith Aman with a Smither event 238 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: up next Fast and pro roofing. You may have an 239 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: ice dam. Yeah, that pesky twelve fifteen inches of snow 240 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: can cause problems for roofs.