1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Where you could have told me the state of Washington 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: was seceding from the US of A and joining Russia, 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't have known because of all the Seahawks 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: stuff going on last week. It really is amazing when 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: your football team is in the Super Bowl and playing 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: in a game like that, at least for me, and 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys are probably similar. I don't have 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: any idea what the hell else is going on in 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: the world. I got no idea. 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: And then when they win the game, right then you're 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: focused on them for another week. 12 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: Whereas if we were to. 13 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: Lost the game, you know, we want to have forgot 14 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: about the game. We would have been bitching and moaning 15 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: and trying to turn our attention to something else, like 16 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: the Olympics. 17 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: But I was with you yesterday. I was like, my god, 18 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: I haven't watched the Olympics. 19 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 4: So I sat down. 20 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 3: I watched two hours of the Olympics last night. 21 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 4: I enjoyed it. 22 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: I love the Olympics summer and sometimes I even like 23 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: the Winter Olympics better than. 24 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: The Summer Olympics. 25 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 4: Well, then you can be our official Olympic course. 26 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 3: Thanks, I'll watch it again. 27 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: You can report from Elliott Avenue on what's happening in Italy. Well, 28 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: we got a lot to get to fun with audio 29 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: at three forty five. Mike Holmgan's going to join us 30 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: a four pm today, Scott Zolac is back on the 31 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: radio show. The former Patriot quarterback who is one half 32 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: of the Patriot radio team that announces those games in Boston, 33 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: I believe on the Sports Hub in Boston, is who's 34 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: got the rights to Patriot football. We've talked to him 35 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: twice in the last couple of weeks, once leading up 36 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: to the game and then once on radio Row in 37 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: person with our friend Hughes. So we'll get we'll get 38 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: Scott on the air and just kind of get a 39 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: feel for how they're reacting out there in Boston. 40 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 4: Are they pissed off? 41 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: Are they barbecuing somebody in particular? Anything they could have 42 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: done differently to win the game? How impressed were they 43 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: by what they saw against the Seahawks. So we'll talk 44 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: to Scott Zolact six at five and then six pm 45 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: to night. Michael Jennetti is it spowar SPA. I know 46 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: we talked about that before, spat track or spowtrack dot com. 47 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: I think he corrected this because we thought it was 48 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: SPO tracked and he I can. 49 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: Go back to spot he has corrected us. 50 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: Yes, we definitely need to go back in the audio 51 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: because every year we talked to him, then we forget 52 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: them next year. 53 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: Get the pronunciation. 54 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: We've only been told about fifteen times, so let's not 55 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: ask him again today. I believe it's spa track dot com, 56 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: but I may be wrong on that. 57 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 4: Anyway. 58 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: They track contracts, free agency, cap numbers, available cap space, 59 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and I think they're great. Obviously you 60 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: can always tell how many people are on the website 61 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: when there's like a big story breaking about somebody's contract, 62 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: because the web traffic is slow as hell on their website, 63 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: by the way, right, So he'll join us Michael Will 64 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: at six pm and get a quick thought on where 65 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: the Hawks look next, what they look like in salary, 66 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: cap space, expiring contracts, How does this team look differently 67 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: potentially next year. I do want to start off the 68 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: show by talking about something that we mentioned just briefly 69 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: on yesterday's program a few minutes on how much credit 70 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll deserves for what we just saw, because I 71 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: know when Mike Hopkins took over the Husky basketball team. 72 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: We gave Romar a little bit of credit, yes, for 73 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: the guys that were left on that roster, by the way, Okay, 74 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: so this is nothing new. Jim Lambright went to the 75 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: Well no sorry, Rick new heisl went to the Rose 76 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: Bowl and won it against Perdue with a quarterback that 77 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: Jim Lambright brought in named Marcus Tuiasosopo when everybody else 78 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: in the country wanted him as a safety, and Lambeau 79 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: signed him up as a quarterback and he won the 80 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. New Heiseel did because Lambeau made that call. 81 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: So it's not a typical where there's always going to 82 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: be a coach that ends up having some guys left 83 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: behind that were brought in by the previous regime. The difference, obviously, 84 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: is that the old GM is the same GM and 85 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: John Schneider, and nobody really knows who to give credit to. 86 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: Nobody really knows whose call it was to draft Kenny Walker, 87 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: Nobody really knows whose call it was to draft Jackson 88 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: Smith and Jigma. But I'm going to give you a 89 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: list of players that were on the twenty twenty three team. Okay, 90 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: that at least in some kind of a way were 91 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: brought in by Pete Carroll. He had to have had 92 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: some influence on these guys. You tell me if these 93 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: are significant names. Kenny Walker, Zach Sharberney, Jackson Smith and 94 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: Jig But Jason Meyers, Michael Dixon, boy A Mafe, Jaron Reid, 95 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: Rieke Wold and Devin Witherspoon, Julian Love, Leonard Williams, Chennanowosu, 96 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, Anthony Bradford, Charles Cross and Abe Lucas. We're 97 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: all on this football team in twenty twenty three. So 98 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: as we sit here and look at the talent, and 99 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: I still think, I'll tell you, Dick what I told 100 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: you after we lost to Tampa Bay. I still think 101 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: the star of this team is Mike McDonald's defensive scheme. 102 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 4: That's the biggest star. 103 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: Okay, But if we're just talking about players, that's a 104 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: pretty significant listener guys Carroll brought in. 105 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned the comparison to Romar. 106 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: I give him Romar more credit than I do Carroll, 107 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: because it was almost one hundred percent of Mike Hopkins 108 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: first year team that Romar brought in that they went 109 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: on and had their last stretch of host season success. 110 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: And then we saw what Mike Hopkins did in years two, three, 111 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: and four versus what Mike McDonald did in your two. 112 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: Mike McDonald's taking it higher, Mike Hopkins flushed it down 113 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: the toilet. 114 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,559 Speaker 3: So I give Romar a little more credit. 115 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: That being said, Pete Carroll deserves a good chunk of 116 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: credit for what this team has become. I absolutely and 117 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 2: taking the opinion of the Seahawks as a franchise. And 118 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: we'll talk to Homegren about that a little bit later 119 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: because he mentioned it on a postgame show. How this 120 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: franchise is seen now versus how it was seen under 121 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: Carroll versus how it's seen under him, and each one 122 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: of those last three coaches has taken this franchise to 123 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: a new level of opinion worldwide. 124 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 5: Here's how I see the situation. You know how when 125 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 5: you have an office party, somebody brings in a big 126 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 5: sheet cake, right, and everybody in the skits sheet cake, right, chocolate, 127 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 5: I like vanilla, Vanilla was chocolate frosting. 128 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 4: Choice. 129 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 5: So the big sheet cake and everybody's getting a slice 130 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 5: of the sheet cake. 131 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: And then you know, the last person who was enabled. 132 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 5: To get able to come out to the party like 133 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 5: an hour later, finally comes out and pretty much the 134 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 5: entire sheet cake's been eaten. But there is some like 135 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 5: crumbs that form the semblance of a piece. That's like 136 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 5: you just put it together, right, put it together, and 137 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 5: there's like, you know, the crumbs make up one piece. 138 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 5: That's what Pete Carroll gets. He gets the leftover. That's 139 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 5: just disrespect. I'm sorry, Pete, massive amount of disrespect. This 140 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 5: is John brought your first title ever. We're not talking 141 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 5: about that. At least give the corner piece you want 142 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 5: me to cut your Mike's Let me just explain here. 143 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 5: This is Mike McDonald and John Schneider's team. This is 144 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 5: their master class, and this team the player's masterclass. Pete Carroll, Okay, 145 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 5: you get the slice that's happened to be left from 146 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 5: the crumbs. You had a piece in getting a couple 147 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 5: enough couple you have piece and getting some guys here. 148 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 5: But you didn't craft this team into a Super Bowl 149 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 5: champion the way that Mike McDonald and John Schneider have 150 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 5: crafted this team. You didn't coach the players that Mike 151 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 5: McDonald coached to get the most out of every player 152 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 5: on this roster. 153 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 4: I think Pete Carroll didn't have a hand in that. 154 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: Well, I agree with you that Pete Carroll does not 155 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl this year. I totally agree with that. 156 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: We've all said that. But that doesn't mean you can't 157 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: give the guy credit. And you sound angry, by the way. 158 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: I think this is you that I'm angry. Why are 159 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 4: you angry? 160 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 5: Because if we'ren't in New England and the Patriots won 161 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl and we're on the sports Hoven, we're 162 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 5: having this conversation Bill Belichick. Same time he left the Patriots, 163 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 5: Pete Carroll left the Seahawks, he wouldn't even be part 164 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 5: of the conversation. And I get it they had a 165 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 5: coach in between and Mayo, but this, this is crazy 166 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 5: to me to give Pete Carroll any more than just 167 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 5: one piece of this sheet cake. 168 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: All right, So Jackson hates Pete Carroll, Sure, I don't 169 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: have established that. I think we got to get some 170 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: talkbacks on this. I want to hear from the people. 171 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 1: Never mind the text line. We can do some text 172 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: for textimonials later, but I want to get to hit 173 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: that talkback Mike on the iHeart app, hold it down, 174 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: send us a message on the microphone there, and you 175 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: tell us how much credit you want to give Pete 176 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: Carroll for not necessarily winning the game on Sunday because 177 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: he wasn't there. He was in his family room right 178 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 1: or wherever he was watching the game. But I'm talking 179 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: about building this roster. And again the problem is that 180 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: I had this conversation with Ian Dick during crosstalk. Nobody 181 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: really truly knows behind the scenes whose call that was 182 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: to draft player A B C or dam may even 183 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: a scout for all we know, John Schneider and Pete 184 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: Carroll may have said, Hey, Billy, that's your call. You 185 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: go ahead, this is your draft pick. If you want him, 186 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: then we'll get him for you. That's it. But did 187 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll step in and say, you know what. 188 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 4: Got it? Guys? 189 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: I really like this Jackson Smith and Jigbakid from Ohio 190 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: State or I'm telling you, Abe Lucas can play right 191 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: tackle for us from Wazoo, Charles Cross from Mississippi State. 192 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: This guy's going to be a star. What about the 193 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: kicker going out and getting Jason Myers. What about Julian 194 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: Love who you remember even before Mike McDonald coached a 195 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: game in Seattle. They were giving this guy an extension 196 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: because he was a perfect fit for his defensive scheme. 197 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: So look, I'm not saying that Pete Carroll deserves to 198 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: have a ring sent to him after what the Seahawks 199 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: just did. 200 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: But I do think he. 201 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: Deserves a little more than just, you know, the cursory 202 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: pat on the ass for helping him put this roster together. 203 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm giving him more of the crumbs. More than 204 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: the crumbs. I'll give him the corner piece that doesn't 205 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: have a lot of cake. It's mostly just icing. 206 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: But but I'll. 207 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 2: Might even have a glob of you know, like the 208 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: chocolate frosting on top of the videos are a part 209 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: of a letter or something like that. 210 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 4: You're saying you'd give him one slice of the sheet cap, 211 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 4: I give him a slice. 212 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: I'll give them a full slice of the sheet she 213 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: got like twenty five pieces. 214 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 4: Saying is he give him half a slice? What can 215 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 4: you share? I say, give him. There's a lot of 216 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 4: difference in what we're saying here. 217 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: Well, remember what two years ago in draft, the JSN 218 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon draft. Remember the reports of who Pete Carroll 219 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: wanted at five Anthony Richardson. That was everywhere I dropped. 220 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: That rumor was everywhere that if Anthony Richardson doesn't go 221 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: four to the Colts, he's going five to the Seahawks. 222 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, do you buy that. 223 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,479 Speaker 2: I yes, it kind of does, because Pete went hormonal 224 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: every one time he did. 225 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: He sure did. 226 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: But it's also possible that's complete nonsense. It's good. I mean, 227 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: that's that's the problem, is that all we're doing is 228 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: just we are exactly we are. 229 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 4: We are. 230 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: We are working with informing opinions on stuff that we 231 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: don't even know if it's accurate. Right, that's this business. 232 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: Why I'm going to assume many and give him some credit. 233 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: I can't wait to read the book. Somebody's got to 234 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: write the book. I mean, Boyle. Boyle is the one inside, 235 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: you know, the compound. I mean he works for the 236 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: Seahawks now, so he's not going to write it until 237 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: his career, but he knows more about that than anybody. 238 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got to write the book, you know, 239 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: Schneider or whatever. With Carol, I want to I want 240 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: to get a list of all the players that were 241 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: on this football team that played a significant role for 242 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: this team this year. And I want to put a 243 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: little PC, a little JS right next to it. I 244 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: want to know who was ultimately responsible for that. Like 245 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: yesterday we talked about, Hey, whose idea was it? Initially? 246 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: And it may have been a group effort, you know, 247 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: once the idea was broached by somebody, whose idea was 248 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: it to fire Pete Carroll. Ian thinks it was Burt 249 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: cold Ian thinks Burt Cole is the one that went 250 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: to Jody Allen and said, we got to make this move. 251 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: This isn't working, this isn't what Paul would have wanted. 252 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: We got to get out of here. Because you remember, 253 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: Paul Allen was the guy that signed off on firing 254 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: Jim Mora after a year and going and getting Pete 255 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: Carroll right, so that at least under Paul and Todd 256 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 1: LIWICKI actually. 257 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 4: Wait a minute, was Paul gone by then? 258 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: I think Paul may have died before they fired Jim Morra. 259 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: I have to check that out. The point is, when 260 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: you have an ownership group that is willing to admit 261 00:11:54,160 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: a mistake and not compound the mistake, it was okay, good. 262 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: So when you have an ownership group like that, that 263 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: is willing to say, Look, I don't care if the 264 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: guy's got a four year deal, this isn't working, and 265 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: the rest of his contract doesn't affect the salary cap. 266 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: It's a coach, I'm a gazillionaire. Just write the guy 267 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: a check and let's get the hell out of here. 268 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 6: Right. 269 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 4: So that's what you kind of if there is. 270 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: Going to be a new ownership group, and there will 271 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: be eventually, this team is going to be sold eventually, well, 272 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: the next ownership group, this is what's kind of scary, 273 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: right when they hire somebody like you mentioned Jonathan Mayo. 274 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: Bob Kraft hired Jonathan Mayo, realized after our Jared Mayo, sorry, 275 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: realized after a year it wasn't working, and he fired 276 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: him and he just bought him out. Same thing that 277 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: Paul Allen did. I mean, both these franchises made moves 278 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: like that in the last ten to fifteen years, and 279 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: they both resulted in at minimum a Super Bowl for 280 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: their franchise. So that's what that guys, That's what I know. 281 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: We're kind of going off in a different thing here. 282 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: That's what kind of concerns me and is a little 283 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: gives me pause about a new Oh, it's fair. 284 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: And I think the new owner, I mean, you need liquidity, 285 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: you don't just you can't just look at your portfolio 286 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: and say how many how many bees does this guy 287 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: have in his portfolio? You got how liquid is he 288 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: and how willing is he to spend the liquidity? 289 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: Right, We've seen John. 290 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: Stants really rich, right, either doesn't have a lot of 291 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: liquidity or doesn't want to spend a ton of the liquidity. 292 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: Where you see other owners are just like like you said, just. 293 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: Like, hey, write the check, get this coach the hell 294 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: out of here and get let's let's start over. Or 295 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: in baseball, right, yo, cut this guy that still has 296 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: forty five million dollars left on his contract and let's start. 297 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: Let's start afresh. Some owners are willing to do that in. 298 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: Baseball, some are well, I think I think the question 299 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: with Carol is not how much credit do you give 300 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: him for the championship. The question is how much credit 301 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: do you give him for helping to build the. 302 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 4: Roster that won the title. 303 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: That's a different question because that is a different question 304 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: because the culture and the scheme that Mike McDonald brought 305 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: in the way that they were able to assemble this 306 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: thing and get it to work. 307 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: That would be more about the. 308 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: Back end McDonald Schneider working together. I give him a 309 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: lot of credit for the roster, man, I mean you can't. 310 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: You can't look down here and see Kenny Walker, Zach Sharberney, 311 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba three fifths of your starting offensive line. 312 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: Leonard Williams. I mean, was Jalen Sundell here three years ago? 313 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: I think this is his second year, so I don't 314 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: think he was Schenna Guys like that, Julian Love, Devin Witherspoon. 315 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: I think you got to give Pete Carroll a lot 316 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: of credit for the roster. And if you're willing to say, 317 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: I will amend my take to reflect the credit he 318 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: deserves in building the roster. I think if you're gonna 319 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: go down that road, Jackson, you got to give him 320 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: more than just a pile of crumbs. 321 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 5: Here's the It's a different question the question of how 322 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 5: much credit does Pete Carroll get for the championship we 323 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 5: just want on Sunday for you. 324 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's exactly. 325 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 5: Then the question of how much credit does Pete Carroll 326 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 5: get for building the roster? That's a different sheet Cake 327 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 5: Pete Carroll, you can have a piece for yourself. You 328 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 5: can have a second piece. If you want to have 329 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 5: a second. 330 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: Piece, I'll give you two. 331 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: Well, but here's the problem though, that will we come 332 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: back to the whole who's more responsible for this thing? 333 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: John Schneider, Jody Allen? And well, you know who hired 334 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: Mike McDonald. It was John Schneider. Well, we decided to 335 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: let Pete Carroll walk and keep John it was Jody Allen. 336 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 4: We could be here all day, so we know. 337 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: That Pete Carroll had more influence on roster building than 338 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: Mike McDonald. 339 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: Does matter? I agree with that exactly Yes, exactly so. 340 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: And because of that, Yeah, if we're willing to say 341 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: that the roster is a huge reason why the Seahawks 342 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: just won a title, the scheme is huge, culture is huge. 343 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: But we do have to admit that McDonald's got to 344 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: have the pieces. Kobiac's gotta have the pieces. Donald's got 345 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: to have the pieces behind him. I think personally, we 346 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: come back to a place square one, right back where 347 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: we started, where we give Pete Carroll a little more 348 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: than you were willing to do. 349 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 5: Just a few minutes, I'm saying again the question of 350 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 5: roster construction. You get two slices of the sheet cake. 351 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 5: If we're talking about the championship we just won. Two 352 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 5: slices goes to a half a slice, and the half 353 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 5: a slice comes at the very end. 354 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: I think it's fascinating when you talk about scheme versus talent, 355 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: because let's look back at the last few Super Bowls and. 356 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: See what I mean. 357 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: This was a yes, you have to blanket statement. You 358 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: have to have talent to win a Super Bowl. So 359 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: let's put that aside for a second. But how much 360 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: does scheme help? Obviously, Mike McDonald massive in helping this team. 361 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni last year not massive in helping the Eagles 362 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. 363 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: I mean you see it in all different sports. 364 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: How massive was was Kaylin de Borr and Ryan Grubb 365 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: to get the Huskies where they were? 366 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: Or is it just the fact they had Michael Pennock. 367 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: You know, Jalen Polk and Jaylen McMillan. 368 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we had a ton of talent, but Pennix 369 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: isn't coming here without debores, right, I mean, guys, like, 370 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: let's not be. 371 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: Stupid about it. Round we go. 372 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: Okay, It's like you can give coaches credit for scheme, 373 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: but then you can't give him credit for talent. Well, 374 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: well college you can't because it's college football in the IFL. 375 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: When the head coaches the grand pooba like Pete like 376 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: he was, you have to give him credit. 377 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely. I again, I think we've done it. I think 378 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 4: we've gotten to a point. Whether it's a different question, 379 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 4: two questions, five questions, the same question. 380 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 2: Two cakes question to Pete freaking Carol deserves. Yes, he 381 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: deserves a fish pump and more for what this team 382 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: just did. And again, maybe it took somebody coming in here, Dick, 383 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: with the same message but just delivering it a different 384 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: way right to win this title. So I want you 385 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: to jump on the talk back, hold down that microphone, 386 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: send us a note. 387 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: We'll play him later on today. How much credit does 388 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll deserve? Simply put view from forty thousand feet 389 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: for what we just saw on Sunday in San Francisco, 390 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: coming up on ninety three to three kJ RFM. 391 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 7: We never wever, Matt, we believed in each other, we 392 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 7: loved each other. 393 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 4: Now we're world championship. Back to Sudy and Dick on 394 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 4: your home for the twelfth man, we got the best 395 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 4: fans in the world. Twelve Sports Radio ninety three point 396 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 4: three kJ R FM. Hey shut out to the twelve. 397 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: By the way, the early returns on the initial tweet. 398 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 4: I don't like. 399 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: Calling it a post or XOLE. I just no, I 400 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: didn't do a poll. I just want people's reaction. Okay, 401 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: I just threw it out there on X Can I 402 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: call it Twitter? 403 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 4: Is that okay? 404 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 8: Yes? 405 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: Okay? 406 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: Because I still go to Twitter dot com and that 407 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: gonna pull by way. I know, but I want to 408 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: hear what people are saying. How much credit do you 409 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: give Pete Carroll for building the Seahawk roster that just 410 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl? A lot of none responses, by 411 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: the way, our buddy Rob Staton, respectfully, none goes to 412 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, Zach Abraham not much. 413 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 4: Let's see schmidtlack on Twitter. 414 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: Schmidlack less than one percent MAC twenty three zero kind 415 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: of obvious. 416 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 4: Peach should have retired five years ago. 417 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: Let's see twenty twenty three runners in scoring position champions 418 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: at Fire to Poto on Twitter zero point zero, Amazing 419 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: Owl at Red Mule two zero on Twitter. 420 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 4: So far as getting no love, Dick nobody's stepping up. Guys. 421 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 4: At least I'm giving him something. 422 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: Did like he gave you the clap for crying out loud. 423 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 2: You wanted to fry the guy. I'm giving him some cake. This, guys, 424 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 2: these guys on on the Texan on Twitter, it's like 425 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: the cake has already even thrown in the garbage and 426 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: he's got to reach in and get a crumb. 427 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 1: Man getting diarrhea from the cake. For God's sake. Well, 428 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: he got a couple of talkbacks here. Let's let's hear 429 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: what the talkbacks think. How much credit do we want 430 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: to give old Pete Carroll for what the Hawks just did. 431 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 7: Giving Pete Carroll any type of credit for this is premature. 432 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 7: You saw how this defense acted and how bad this 433 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 7: offense was under Pete Carroll. Sorry, guys, Pete Carroll gets 434 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 7: the sliver of the not even the crumbs. He gets 435 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 7: that little sheet that comes underneath the cake. Wow, that 436 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 7: he can lick off the frosting from that. 437 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 2: Wow. 438 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: He gets the foil, He gets the foil between the 439 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: cake and the cardboard, and he can suck on that 440 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: for a while, which I've done that, by the way, 441 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: that before my God, all right, there's one guy that 442 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: says he gets Jack Squat for credit. 443 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 9: Go ahead, Hey, guys, Pete deserves a ton of respect. 444 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 9: I'm tired of the crap he's been getting on his 445 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 9: radio station, and everybody's forgetting Julian Love, Leo Williams, they 446 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 9: all came here, they said, want to play for Pete 447 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 9: reit Woolen, the project that he was coming out of 448 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 9: the draft, Like, what are we talking about? 449 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 4: The culture that was set, It was already here. 450 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 9: Clint Kubat's gonna have a tougher time than Mike McDonald 451 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 9: building the team because this team was already sit and loaded. 452 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 9: It just needed a better structure. 453 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dick, Maybe it's because I'm just in a good mood, right, 454 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: charitable mood after what happened on Sunday. Not a lot 455 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 1: is bothering me right now, and there's a lot that 456 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: otherwise would be bothering me, Like crap that's going on, 457 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: you know whatever that I'm like brushing off, And that'll 458 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: eventually change. I'll be back to the same grumpy bastard 459 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: next week. No, it's not. 460 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: This won't last. 461 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just charitable, but man, I just I just 462 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: look at Pete Carroll. 463 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 4: I look at Mike Homgrin. Mike Homgrin was. 464 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: The guy that showed us it was possible to play 465 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: in a Super Bowl. I remember being on the air 466 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: the Monday after we beat Carolina, crying my ass off. 467 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: We're going to the super Bowl. 468 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: Couldn't believe it. 469 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you were it was twenty years ago, Jackson, right, 470 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: so you were what ten whatever it was back then, 471 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: ten eleven years old. 472 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 4: I don't know how much of that you remember, but 473 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 4: I just know this that. 474 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: All of these guys, somehow Someway played a role in 475 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: getting this franchise to where it is right now. 476 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: There's no question about it. I wanted to fact check 477 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: that one Texter that they're the one voice mail person 478 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 2: that came in with the sucky offense. You know, Pete 479 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 2: had two of his last four years out of top ten. 480 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: Offense in the NFL scoring offense. 481 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: It was the defense that fell back, and that's the 482 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 2: reason Pete got fired. 483 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: The offense was actually pretty good. 484 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: Well, and look when the defense is falling apart under 485 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, then what's the point, right? It'd be like 486 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: if we wake up in a couple of years from 487 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: now and Mike McDonald's defense is getting stomped on. 488 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 4: You're like, well, what's the point of having you here? 489 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 4: Then that's right. I mean, Pete Carroll was brought here. 490 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: Your side's gonna be good to have an elite defense, 491 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: and Mike McDonald was brought here to have an elite defense. 492 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 4: And they had both an elite defense. 493 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: And I mean, guys, what the like it are not 494 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: statistically kind of an elite offense as well? In twenty 495 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: twenty five. All right, one more? How much credit does 496 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: the old man get? 497 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 10: I agree with Jackson one thousand percent. Pete Carroll went 498 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 10: to LA and bombed. 499 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: He is horrible. 500 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 10: This is all Mike McDonald and John Schneider. Why don't 501 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 10: we give John Schneider some more credit? How about that? 502 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 10: It wasn't all Pete. This is John Schneider and Mike 503 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 10: one hundred percent. Go Jackson, Go Hawks, Go Mariners, Go Huskies. 504 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: Yeah wow, go Jackson. Got go jack I think I 505 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: said bo Jackson. I thinks Joe Jackson. Okay, Two things. 506 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: Number one, Pete went to Vegas, not LA, which I 507 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: know is very difficult sometimes because the way that they 508 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: abbreviate Vegas in the standings it's la V and not LVY. 509 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: It throws me off to the other part of it. 510 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: Is and I hate when this happens, and it's a 511 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: huge pet peeve of mine, and I gotta get over it. 512 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: We can't talk about fifteen things at one time. I 513 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: only have one mouth. Okay, you only have one mouth. 514 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: Jackson has one mouth. Just because we're talking about how 515 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: much credit Pete Carroll deserves right this second, does not 516 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: mean that we're not giving John Schneider ultimately the lion's 517 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: share of credit or Mike McDonald the lion's share of credit. 518 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: I think everybody, unless you're a dipstick, understands that that 519 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: John Schneider and Mike McDonald deserve way more credit for 520 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: what just happened than Pete Carroll. I'm just asking you, guys, 521 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: do we look back now on the end of Pete 522 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: Carroll's tenure and Dick, you set it off the air 523 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: and I think you're exactly one thousand percent right. The 524 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: fact that Pete Carroll went to Vegas and bombed makes 525 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: it very easy for people to just dismiss this exactly 526 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: because of what happened to Vegas. 527 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 4: If he went, would you say ninety eight, ten and seven. 528 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: Whatever, they're building something, you can say, hey, the old 529 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: man still got it whatever, blah blah blah. Maybe people 530 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: are less app to do that, But I do you 531 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: think that the roster that was left by Pete and John, 532 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: that John continued with Mike McDonald was a big part 533 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: of why they just won that game on Sunday. 534 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 4: And I think Pete Carroll deserves some credit for that. 535 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 10: Yeah. 536 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: I think we're just asking the question. And I'm glad 537 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: Jackson brought up the cake analogy. I mean, are we're 538 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: just talking about, Okay, does he deserve a crumb? 539 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 3: Does deserve a piece? Few pieces? 540 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 4: Different questions? 541 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And there's and and you're right, there's two 542 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: different questions, one building of the roster and two the 543 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: overall question of how much does he deserve for this title? 544 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 2: My answer to building the rosters a lot more pieces 545 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: of cake than the overall winning the title. 546 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think it's very again, it's very very 547 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 5: easy to say when you look at the roster. He 548 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 5: obviously wanted to run the football, and he loved running backs, 549 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 5: and he loved skill players, right, so you have to 550 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 5: give him credit, some credit for JSN Kenneth Walker, Zach Sharponnay. 551 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 5: Those three players are massive reasons why the Seahawks won 552 00:25:59,760 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 5: the suit. 553 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: Sixty percent of your starting offensive line. 554 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 5: Right, So, like, listen, if the question is construction, Yeah, 555 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 5: Pete Carroll, I'll let you even cut the cake. You 556 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 5: get to choose how big of a slice you want 557 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 5: the first off, right, But like it's a. 558 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: Different question, and don't we I mean, okay, so here's 559 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: here's the other part of this, and this this can 560 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: transcend to other athletes and other conversations as well. Doesn't 561 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: a guy accomplish a certain amount of success in our 562 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: city where we then talk about him in a little 563 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: bit of a different tone, And I remember you and 564 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: I Dick. 565 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: It may have been Sammier. 566 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but at the end of Felix Hernandez's 567 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: career in Seattle, people were like killing him, like this 568 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: guy's a bumb whatever. I'm like, dude, really, like that's 569 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: the way you want to talk about Felix Hernandez after 570 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: everything he went through, everything he did, all the games 571 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: he did not win because the offense stunk when he 572 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: was an All. 573 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 4: Star and a cy young candidate. 574 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: I just believe for me, and this is just a 575 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: personal thing that when a guy accomplishes what those guys accomplished, 576 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: they get discussed in a different tone than other people 577 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: in this town that don't have those accomplishments under their belt. 578 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: I was actually going to ask you, guys, and it's 579 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: a lame frickin topic for sports radio, the whole Mount 580 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: Rushmore thing. 581 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 4: But guys, we got options now in this town. 582 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you think about all the dudes that would 583 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: be eligible for that list, Don James, Luponelo, Lenny Wilkins, 584 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, Mike Homgren, Mike McDonald, Lorenzo Romar. 585 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 4: Dan Wilson. 586 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: Is he on that list now? After what the Mariners did? 587 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to give him credit. All they want to 588 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: do is hammer him for the BIZARREO thing. 589 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 4: I'm waiting for one name that you haven't listened to, 590 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 4: Brian Schweitzer. 591 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: Well no, okay, yeah, I'm talking coaches, just coaches, coaches, right, coaches. 592 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, now, like Mike McDonald, does 593 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: he now belong on that list? 594 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 4: Over Pete Carroll? No? Not yet? 595 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: Okay, no yet? Pe got Pepe? He took us to 596 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 2: two and one one, right, Yes, Mike goes. If Mike 597 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: goes and wins one, next year, he bumps Pete. 598 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 5: It's very it's it's very easy to get Mike to 599 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 5: bump Peepe. But Pete's there now, But it is he 600 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 5: Pete is hanging on to That's the last by just 601 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 5: the smallest of grips. 602 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,239 Speaker 2: But what I mean talk about Pete versus Lenny. They 603 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: both did the same thing. They went to two and 604 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: one one, correct. 605 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 4: I just think Lenny gets more credit because he was player. 606 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: Lenny gets more credit because it happened before you were born. 607 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 4: And it's a myth at this point. Well he was, 608 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 4: he was a player coach. 609 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: Yes, he was gonna get They did not go to 610 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: the finals when he was a player coach. They went 611 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: to the finals when he was the head coach and 612 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: seventy eight and seventy nine. So the point is is 613 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: that I think passage of time changes everything, right, Like 614 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: you forget some of the bad stuff, you remember the 615 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: good stuff. Obviously, I hope people remember Pete Carroll for 616 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: the good stuff. And overall it was pretty damn good 617 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: for Pete Carroll. And there's a lot of franchises that 618 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: would have kept him and not made the move that 619 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: they made and give them credit for that. But it 620 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: is interesting to me how Pete Carroll is just getting 621 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: clown right now, hammered like people are almost offended that 622 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: were even bringing it. 623 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 4: But why would you get offended it? Either one? It's 624 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 4: it's why would you get so angry it? Either one. 625 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 5: I'm going to remember Pete Carroll for all of the 626 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 5: great things he did, but if we're talking about the 627 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 5: twenty twenty five championship, it's that it's too context. 628 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 4: I can I am I myself in my brain. 629 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 5: I'm not sure if you can can compartmentalize the great 630 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 5: things Pete Carroll did for us. Of course, also, of 631 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 5: course it was time for him to go. He doesn't 632 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 5: just right doesn't mean you should be angry. I'm not 633 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 5: who said listen to you. 634 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: Listen to you, you listen to what he's softy last segment, 635 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: very at the beginning, you found answer because you were 636 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: pissed off. 637 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 4: That was after you threw words in my mouth. 638 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: No, no, no, you you jumped in the yes before 639 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: you were cutting. You were mad and you went right 640 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: to the crumbs. We're gonna break fun with audio next 641 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: on ninety three three A j R. 642 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: F M. 643 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 4: It's now time for Sufday and Digg's fun with audio. 644 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 4: Jimmy g pat Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo. Now let's have 645 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 4: some fun with audio. 646 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: All right, here we go on a busy Thursday. Mike 647 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: Holmgren will join us at four. Scott Zolac coming up 648 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: in a five pm hour. Get his thoughts on the 649 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: Patriot loss from a Boston perspective. Michael Jeannetti spot track 650 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: dot Com as well with the future contract situations, free agents, 651 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: cap space, the whole thing for your Seattle Seahawks. 652 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 4: All right, little fun with audio, slash hat. Did you 653 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 4: hear that? Hey, Dick? Did you happen to hear a 654 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 4: lot of what's that? Dick? 655 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: The NFL films miked up cut of the Super Bowl 656 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: is out now and it revealed that after the Seahawks won, 657 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold met his family on the field and admitted 658 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: he was actually thinking about his upcoming wedding next month 659 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: while raising the Lombardi Trophy. 660 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 10: You're gonna have quite. 661 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: A year, an, I know, I was just killing Maria Taylor. 662 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 4: I want who interviewed men. I was like, yeah, is 663 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 4: it weird. 664 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: That I'm like thinking about the wedding right now, and 665 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: then it's in a month, and I'm like, freaking I'm excited, 666 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: but also, sir. 667 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 7: Thank you. 668 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: I know, I. 669 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: Don't think it's weird at all. I don't know if 670 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: a guy can have a better year than winning a 671 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and getting married O kids, right, I mean 672 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: that's your two for two right there. 673 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: It's even better than that is not having to worry 674 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: about how much the wedding costs. That's right, because when 675 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: you make thirty million dollars a year, you don't have 676 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: to worry about how much the wedding cost That's what 677 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: most most of us. 678 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: Were worried about when we got married. 679 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: It was like, Okay, what do I do I really need? 680 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 2: Do I really need appetizers or kind of cut the appetizers. 681 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 4: I don't know. Some people, the more money they make, 682 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 4: the more frugal they are. 683 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: To be totally honest with you, I know a lot 684 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: of rich, cheap guys, by the way, I know. 685 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what I was making when I was 686 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: thirty years old, and it was not enough to pay 687 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: for a wedding. 688 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: Good one. 689 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: Well we both had second one. So all right, Hey, Dick, 690 00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: did you happen to hear that. 691 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 4: What's that day? What's that? Dick? 692 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: Emmanuel Aachio's Speak Easy YouTube show. The former NFL linebacker 693 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: went off on the comedian Drew Ski or is it 694 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: Druskie for butchering Jackson Smith and Jigba's name. 695 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 4: At the NFL Honors show last week. 696 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 8: Stop playing with other people's names, Drewski. You play a lot, 697 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 8: and you're really good at playing. And shout out to 698 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 8: what you've done and what you've built in your career. 699 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 8: I believe you the best one doing it right now. 700 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 8: But know the time and a place, and when it's 701 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 8: Jackson Smith and Jigba's time and it's Jackson Smith and 702 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 8: Jigbas's place, then just say his name right, fix your 703 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 8: face and keep it moving. Like understand when it's about 704 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 8: you and when it's not about you. And what Rammy 705 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 8: hot about that is? Like Drewskie, that moment was not 706 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 8: about you. And also names carry waite. Names are significant, 707 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 8: especially family names. Names are powerful. This is not a 708 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 8: time forced kid, It's NFL Honors, not the Jewsky Honors, 709 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 8: not the comedian honors. 710 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: Well I'm not a big fan of Emmanuelacchio, but I 711 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: agree with them right here, and you know my take 712 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: on that gave it to you last week. I thought 713 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: it was a disgrace what he did, and I felt 714 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: terrible for Jackson. I felt terrible for his family. I 715 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: felt terrible for his future kids. 716 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 4: Hey, let's all. 717 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: Gather around and watch when grandpa won the Offensive Player 718 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: of the Year and he's got to show this meathead 719 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: butchering his name and dropping an N bomb on TV 720 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: to the entire country. 721 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 4: So yeah, I hope this guy. Have we heard? Did 722 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 4: he apologize by the way, No? Yeah, well that's even 723 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 4: more week. 724 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: I just don't know what he was thinking. 725 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: He's got funny, but nothing that came out of his 726 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 2: mouth was remotely funny. 727 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 4: He thinks it is. 728 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: He didn't even get last from the crowd. 729 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know, man. 730 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: I just think everybody makes mistakes. He made a big one, 731 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: and I just hope he reached out to him personally. 732 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: And I hope that that hasn't happened. It does happen, Hey, Dick, 733 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: did you happen to hear that? 734 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 4: Was it? What's that? Dick? 735 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: During a press conference yesterday, UCLA basketball coach Mick Cronin 736 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: told reporters what kinds of players he wants Bruin's assistant coach. 737 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: How do I say this guy's name exactly how it's written? 738 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: Themanya Yogi Javanovich? Is that right to recruit? While the 739 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: NBA All Star Game is in La Told. 740 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 6: Yogi, like all these agents are in town. I guess 741 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 6: it's all Star games here. Give me the find. Find 742 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 6: me the biggest nastiest vot ka drinking Eastern European you can. 743 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 6: It's not tell Yogi he's beating with all these agents 744 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 6: from all the world are coming in. I guess it's 745 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 6: just find, you know, just find some guy used to 746 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 6: you know it used to like wrestle bears and Lithuania 747 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 6: or so. 748 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: That's the joker impact right there, right, everybody wants a joker. 749 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 4: Everybody wants a joker. Good luck finding one, good one, 750 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 4: I think. 751 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: But even more so than than the skill of the joker, 752 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: he just wants mean nasty yes, you know, twenty six 753 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: year old dudes, because I mean, that's what you need 754 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 2: to compete in the Big ten. 755 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: The Big ten is rough, as the Huskies are finding out. 756 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: He doesn't want a Serbian mobster. He wants a guy 757 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: that could be a serbian mobster is what he was right, right? 758 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? 759 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 4: What's that? 760 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: Reggie Miller joining the Dan Patrick Show yesterday and talked 761 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: about the potential for NBA expansion after the recent expansion 762 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: vote news. 763 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 2: NBA talking about expansion with Vegas is a foregun conclusion, 764 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 2: I think. 765 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 5: So. 766 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 4: Okay, I think Seattle is a fore gone conclusion. 767 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 11: Okay, never should left Seattle in the first place. It 768 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 11: is a great fan base, as we just witnessed on 769 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 11: Super Bowl Sunday, how they travel and how they've been 770 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 11: for their football team. Having a chance to play a 771 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 11: GP in those great Nate McMillan, Dale Ellis and some 772 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 11: of those great Seattle teams, it was unbearable to come 773 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 11: into that building and play against those guys. And that 774 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 11: fan base is just absolutely they would be on fire 775 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 11: to be back in the league. So I think those 776 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 11: two teams, it's a fore don conclue. The owners will 777 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 11: vote on that and we'll have two new teams. 778 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: I think there's just a large part of the fan 779 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: base now, and Gas is one of them. By the way, 780 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: he told us, wake me up when there's news he's 781 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: getting tired of getting strung along. And what did Maria 782 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: Cantwell say the other day about expansion or the vote 783 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: in March or something like that, we're going to hear 784 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: in March that they're going to move forward with the 785 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: expansion idea. I don't know exactly what it was that 786 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: she said. It was Sunday, I think before the game 787 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: when she said it. I don't have any doubt that 788 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: we are going to get an NBA team back very soon. 789 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: I am starting to have a little bit of doubt 790 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: as to how that's going to happen. Meaning I'm not 791 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: going to just dismiss the idea of a team relocating here. 792 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: There's a lot of franchises, Dick, that are struggling out there, 793 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: and I would not put it past the NBA to 794 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: keep the pie at thirty slices and move a team 795 00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: or two somewhere else. 796 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 3: I'm still probably seventy. 797 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 2: Five twenty five on expansion, but I think the list 798 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 2: is the percentage is growing on the other side as 799 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 2: some of these some of these Flouns. 800 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 4: Nerlands is not working. 801 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 3: No. And you know, the only. 802 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 2: Thing concrete we did here in the last month or 803 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 2: so is that twenty twenty six will be the year 804 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 2: that a decision on expansion is made. 805 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 4: Right, and Silver said that right. Yes, yeah, So we. 806 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 2: Have concrete, factual evidence that twenty twenty we will know 807 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 2: at the end of twenty twenty six if we have a. 808 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 3: Team and when we have a team. 809 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 2: But what what is good is all of the discourse 810 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 2: since then is pointing towards yes, not no. 811 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 4: Right, So that's the great idea. That's I agree. 812 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: I just it's gonna happen, by the way, when I'm 813 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: on vacation, which means it's gonna happen in the first 814 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:45,959 Speaker 1: two weeks of July. 815 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 4: Book it. Book it guaranteed. 816 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:49,959 Speaker 3: Big things always happen. 817 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: That's the way it will, it goes, and that's the 818 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: way it's gonna be. All Right, we're gonna break. Mike 819 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: Holmgren joins next on ninety three to three KJARFM.