1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analysts 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Petros Papadekas. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: Knock that I'm a smart guy, I'm stupid. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Brought to you by Sweet James Accident Attorneys. 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 3: Forty one yards. 6 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: If you're hurting an accident, call Sweet James right away 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: at eight hundred, five hundred and fifty two hundred. 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Hit him up 30 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 4: at eight hundred and nine million. That's eight hundred and 31 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 4: nine million or sweet James dot com. Hello, I had 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 4: a nice conversation with your wife yesterday. 33 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: Oh that's cool. 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 3: Did you hear about that? 35 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 5: Nope, she didn't tell you. No, God, I would have 36 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 5: thought she would have told you. She didn't caught her 37 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 5: up on the telephone. 38 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: Okay, y'ao. 39 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 4: I spoke for a while. I didn't know if you 40 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 4: would have called her on the telegraph. 41 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 5: Or teams, meaning, yeah, I could have zumed her face 42 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 5: time or whatever. That would have been weird video call 43 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,279 Speaker 5: from Softy coming in coming in hot. 44 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that you were able to deal with it. 45 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was great. 46 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 5: We had a little administrative thing we had to take 47 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 5: care of, and you know, we took care of it. 48 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 5: So I'm trying to figure out who runs that family 49 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 5: down there, because she's got as much personality if not 50 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 5: more than you do. 51 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: Bell, Well, I don't do much. 52 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 5: I'm just here with you, just sitting and wait for 53 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 5: our call every Wednesday. I just ordered some crickets on 54 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 5: door Dash and some worms for a lizard. 55 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: Wow. 56 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 4: And I got to pick my daughter up from soccer 57 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: a little later, and my son is laying on a 58 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 4: blanket watching a YouTuber in the living room. USC is 59 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 4: down two to nothing to Oregon. Okay at the matt 60 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 4: yep yea, and the world keeps on turning Softy. It 61 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: looks like your coach is going to stay in Seattle. Yeah, 62 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 4: even though the family loves Tucson. 63 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, Tucson's got a guy and he's having a 64 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 5: hell of a year. 65 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: Yes he is. I'm very proud of Brent Brennan. 66 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: They're ranked, They're nine to three. 67 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 5: I saw where our friends over at West coach Football, 68 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 5: reminding everybody that Michigan you Dub played for the national 69 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 5: championship two years ago, and now both of them are 70 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 5: ranked behind Arizona, who lost their head coach to U 71 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 5: DUB after their coach took off for Alabama. So I 72 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 5: don't know, man, I mean, you tell us right. You're 73 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 5: always the voice of reason on this radio show. What 74 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 5: should our thoughts be on Jed Fish? How would you 75 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 5: characterize the first two years for this guy? 76 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: Well, I don't think it's been a failure. Yeah, so 77 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: you got that going for you. 78 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 5: Hey, at minimum we had it hasn't been a total 79 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 5: freaking disaster, right, yeah. 80 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: Go. 81 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 4: But I think the comp for Washington, especially with the 82 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: joining of the Big Ten and the two years ago 83 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 4: what happened with Kaylin de boor the comparison is with Oregon, 84 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: and Oregon is going to the playoff and that's the 85 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: second year in a row they're going to the playoff. 86 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 4: Even though they got wiped out early last year. It 87 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: kind of became an afterthought most all the teams with 88 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 4: the first round I did, so I think that it's 89 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 4: not enough. I think Washington football got a taste of 90 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: what it's like at the top, and don't I never 91 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 4: thought Jedfish was the coach to keep you there. And 92 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 4: not to say that he's a bad coach, not to 93 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: say that he hasn't had a lot of success, not 94 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 4: to say what he did in Arizona wasn't really commendable. 95 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 4: I mean it's kind of interesting. It's like Bronco menden 96 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 4: Hall when he turned around New Mexico last year with 97 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 4: the Dan Pierre quarterback who's at Utah now, and Bronco 98 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: menden Hall turned New Mexico around to where they won 99 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 4: like five games, and that was unheard of in New 100 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 4: Mexico in the last twenty thirty years. They've had a 101 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 4: really bad run of things. And they were in euphoria 102 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 4: just because they won some home games and everybody's like, 103 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: my god, look at this Bronco menden Hall, look what 104 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: he can do. And then the next one game at home, seriously, 105 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: it was that bad charge. Yeah, and the next thing 106 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: you know, here comes this guy, Jason Eck and he 107 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 4: brings a bunch of people from the FCS Idaho of 108 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 4: all places, and and that's very close to everybody's heart 109 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: in Seattle because of its proximity to Pullman and all 110 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: of that. And he brings a quarterback, his son, a back, 111 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 4: a couple other team leaders, a bunch of FCS guys, 112 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,559 Speaker 4: and they went a four way tie for the Mountain 113 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 4: West and have they're they're filling the stadium and storm 114 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: in the field every week. So it's kind of like, 115 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 4: oh my god, this can get better and better, And 116 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 4: I think that didn't happen at Right, like Signetti left 117 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 4: James Madison and the next guy, Bob Chesney did really 118 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: well too, and now he's at UCLA. That didn't happen 119 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: at Washington. Jedfish, what is that funny? 120 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: Because it didn't. 121 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you follow that up with that chuckle? 122 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: Well? I think. 123 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 4: That the stakes are higher, right because your your competition 124 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 4: is tougher, of course than some of the examples the 125 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 4: Sun Belt in the Mountain West that I just gave you. 126 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 4: But nobody at the Washington World, especially you, wants to 127 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: hear that. You guys want to be competitive in every game. 128 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: Of course, you don't want to go to Michigan and 129 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 4: get your doors blown off and be like, well, you know, 130 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 4: that's what we expected, or the same thing. 131 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 5: Nobody expected that with Ohio State. Nobody did. We thought 132 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 5: they'd be in every game they play this year, including 133 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 5: Ohio State, of course. 134 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 4: And it didn't happen, and it didn't happen against Oregon, 135 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 4: and maybe the quarterback mature is one more year. A 136 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: word that we use now in football more than we 137 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 4: use recruiting is retention. You have to retain the players 138 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 4: if you want them. A lot of guys that transfer 139 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 4: people don't realize or I guess people don't factor in, 140 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: are asked to leave because somebody else better or presumably better. 141 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: Right is coming in. 142 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: And that phenomenon has been happening forever in college football. 143 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: But I think Fish, I think Fish is like I 144 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 4: thought he was gonna be, which is just okay, and 145 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: that's not good enough. Washington needs to be like Oregon. 146 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: And I don't know, they're just not right. They're not 147 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: quite there, but I think they're closer to USC if 148 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: it's any consolation. 149 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, not really, But I understand what you're talking about. 150 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 5: I mean there is some context there. Excuse me about 151 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 5: taking over, you know, something that got blown to bits 152 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 5: eighteen months ago, but you know that context for me 153 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 5: is now over. I mean it's time to win, right. 154 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 5: You get a year, a couple of years to kind 155 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 5: of rebuild the thing. And I mean you fell short. 156 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 5: The Wisconsin loss obviously was was a pisser. Uh never 157 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 5: should have happened. You should have been a ninety nine. 158 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 4: I can tell you that great information about the Civil War, 159 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: and can't randle mad want the trip right. 160 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 5: PC's just totally different vibe when I was out there 161 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 5: knowing what I know. You know, going into that stadium 162 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 5: having that background just changed the whole environment for me. 163 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: But that's why I do what I do. 164 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you well about people are gotta wonder all 165 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 5: the time why you're here and justifies it right there 166 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 5: with that education that you gave us. But Petros is 167 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 5: with us. I do want to ask you about Oregon 168 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 5: and the coaches that are losing. In a second, I 169 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 5: do want to ask you about the Big Ten Championship, 170 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 5: but I got to make sure we get this in. Dude, 171 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 5: you know him. You covered him at USC. I'm sure 172 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 5: you've had him on your show a million damn times. 173 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 5: Lane Kiffin, Yes, talk to us about this decision he 174 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 5: made to quit and all miss before the playoff. 175 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: There's a lot of weirdness here right. First of all, 176 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 4: I've known Lane Kiffin since two thousand and one when 177 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 4: he was the tight end coach for Pete Carroll and 178 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 4: he was like a red faced guy screaming and yelling 179 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: at the scout team, holding up the play card for 180 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 4: the scout team to look at and give the starters 181 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 4: a look, and just mother effing everybody. And I thought 182 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 4: the same thing I think every time I look at 183 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: him now on TV, which is what an enormous doucheband? 184 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: He is a pretty big douche. And I've listened. I've 185 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 4: seen Lane kiffen in all the compromising places that you 186 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 4: read about on Twitter and back and forth. And I 187 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 4: know more about Lane Kiffin than I want compromising points 188 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: because it was a time of a lack of institutional 189 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 4: control at USC. 190 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: That's why. 191 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 4: And my father did the recruiting through the restaurant. That's 192 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: why got it. Anyway, if you if you watch Lane 193 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 4: Kiffin on TV and you think he's a douche, you're right. 194 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 4: I've known him since two thousand and one. Now does 195 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 4: that mean he can't put together a football team and 196 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 4: call plays? No, that does not mean it. But when 197 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 4: somebody and you know, a few of these things aren't 198 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 4: really fair. I mean, and it's first of all, it's 199 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: really hard to get fired in September. I mean, it 200 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 4: used to be really hard, and Lane got fired in 201 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 4: September twice by the Raiders and by USC. But the 202 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: Al Davis overhead thing, is that really Lane's fault? That 203 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 4: Al Davis is a crazy old man? No, I mean 204 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 4: I get it. He was dysfunctional there, like he is 205 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 4: everywhere and has a terrible exit and leaves a trail 206 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 4: of half confirmed nefarious stories. 207 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: But he was like thirty years old, right. 208 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: Right, Well whatever, But I mean shame on them for 209 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 4: hiring him because he's a douche. But you can't really 210 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 4: blame him for the overhead thing with Al Davis, And 211 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: you can't really blame him for getting fired on the tarmac. 212 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: The stupid USC donors and Pat Hayden did that. I mean, 213 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 4: they created that mythology. Why did he have to be 214 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 4: fired on the tarmac. Why couldn't he be fired at 215 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 4: his office or the next day at the athletic departments building. Well, 216 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 4: I mean, why why did that have to become this 217 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: huge story? Well because some donor told you and Pat 218 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 4: Hayden's an idiot, and they created this whole story, this 219 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 4: legend of a coach being fired on a tarmac and 220 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 4: USC being so terrible that they had to fire their coach. 221 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: At the at the airport for charters. 222 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: It's just that's stupid, that's not Yeah, he was really 223 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: bad at SE and some huge donor who's now no 224 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 4: longer with us, who gave USC like one hundred million 225 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 4: dollars literally said no more, I want him fired right now. 226 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: I don't want him on the bus or whatever. So 227 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 4: USC did his bidding and fired Lane Kiffin. And yeah, 228 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 4: that's on Lane, I guess for underperforming. But he didn't 229 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: have to be fired on a tarmac. Now what he 230 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 4: did at tennessee what he's done here at the Old 231 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 4: Miss situation and going back and forth, that's all on Lane. 232 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 4: The gross part about this, and it really seeps into 233 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: the college football Playoff and everything else that we're covering 234 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: when it comes to the sport kind of this week 235 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 4: and ever since they fired James Franklin is ESPN, especially 236 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 4: when it comes to Old Miss in the SEC, and 237 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: this Lane Kiffin story is talking out of both sides 238 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: of their mouth. Everybody's talking and consulting with him behind 239 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 4: the scenes, like Nick Saban. They own the SEC, they 240 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 4: own the playoff. They're begging on air for him to 241 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 4: be able to coach in the playoff. 242 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 3: Right, and which would have been ridiculous. 243 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 2: Well, all of it's ridiculous, and it is. 244 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 4: I'm not surprised that Lane Kiffin is in bed with 245 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 4: a bunch of people from ESPN I'm not surprised about anything. 246 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 4: It's just gross to see it laid so bare in 247 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 4: front of us and everybody just says, hey, great, look 248 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 4: at how many clicks we got. It's just a really 249 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 4: ugly situation. And if you expect Lane Kiffin to handle 250 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 4: something poorly, it means you've probably met Lane Kiffin. I 251 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know what's going to happen at LSU. 252 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 4: I know he'll have a lot of financial resources and 253 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: maybe they could have some success, but I don't think 254 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 4: it's going to be like they're going to bring him 255 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: back in thirty years like Howard Schnellenberger and honor him right, 256 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 4: because he just doesn't seem to be able to sustain 257 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:36,479 Speaker 4: relationships past the hot shot play caller. There's always someplace 258 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: better place. I would expect him to go to the 259 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: NFL next. And if he has any success at LSU, 260 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 4: or even not success, oh god. So I'm just imagining 261 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 4: if he ever became the head coach of the Seahawks 262 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 4: and we have this clip. 263 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: Calling Lane Kiffin a giant touchbag. 264 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: Well, am I really out on a limb there? 265 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 5: I know I trust your judgment on him more than 266 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,479 Speaker 5: anybody honestly. I mean you said there were some compromising 267 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 5: situations he was in. 268 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: Can you share one? Willis? 269 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 4: No? What? 270 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: What? What are you talking about? What do you mean? 271 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: What am I talking about? 272 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 6: What? 273 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: Have you ever been one to whole person? 274 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 5: If you told us your dad was gonna hide OJ 275 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 5: in the walk infrigerator, that's true too. 276 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: Okay, come on, man, you. 277 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 4: Got Let's just say a lot of the stuff you 278 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: see on Twitter, Yeah, it's it's not. I don't look 279 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 4: at that and be like, oh, I don't believe that. 280 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: You know, knowing the situation and knowing the guy, there's 281 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 4: a lot I see on Twitter that I believe. Well, 282 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: Petros is with US Big Ten Championship is coming up 283 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 4: on Saturday. 284 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: You may have seen India. 285 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: I saw him. 286 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: Dressed like a big chicken, like the San Diego chicken, 287 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 4: with a huge space cutout whereas genitals were He's running 288 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 4: around Shut up, you did not, No, I'm he was 289 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: running around like the. 290 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: Oh god, dude, I got that image. 291 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 4: I played Kimma ware in a San Diego Somebody's probably 292 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: seen him do that. 293 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: Well, there's nuts. I could totally see it. 294 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 5: Oh god, all right, Well whatever, I don't know this 295 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 5: Big Ten Championship coming up Saturday. 296 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: You think Indiana, I mean, maybe Indiana cars are that 297 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: Ohio state. You don't even know what I'm gonna ask you. 298 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: What am I gonna ask you? 299 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: Do you think Indiana can beat a High No. 300 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: That's not what I'm gonna ask you at all. 301 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 5: Actually, I think they want to win the game more 302 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 5: than the Buck guys do, or winning the Big Ten 303 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 5: would mean more to them. If you went to Ryan 304 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 5: Day and maybe even Signetti and said, hey, you're both 305 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 5: in the playoff, you can skip this game and just 306 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 5: call it a tie and not even playing the damn thing? 307 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: Would they agree to that? 308 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: You think? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, 309 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: I think we're coming to the end. 310 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 4: We're starting to realize that we don't well, first of all, 311 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 4: we're realizing we don't need a playoff committee. And second 312 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 4: we're realizing that we're realizing that we don't really need 313 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 4: the conference championship. And so that's kind of part of 314 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 4: this and it's awkward and everybody's still trying to figure 315 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: that out. But I think you're right. Probably Indiana has 316 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 4: more motivation because of Big Ten championship. I mean, that's 317 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 4: the I think I've said this on the show, but 318 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: to me watching football, and it was when I was 319 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: between leaving cal and going to USC that Northwestern won 320 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 4: the role or didn't win the Rose Bowl, but Gary 321 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: Barnett took him to the Rose Bowl, which at that 322 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 4: point was one of the most unheard of crazy things 323 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 4: in the history of football. Yeah, and they lost to 324 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 4: Kyshawn Johnson's team, but they had Steve Schner and Darnell 325 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: Autry and Pat Fitzgerald was a mic backer on that team, 326 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 4: and that was a miracle. And I came to know 327 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: Gary Barnett later through broadcasting and really came to like 328 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: him and was always just marvel at what he did 329 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: at Northway Western. What's happening in Indiana in the modern 330 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 4: times is dwarfing, that I mean, and it's getting a 331 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 4: lot of people fired. Because if Kurt Signetty can turn 332 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 4: around Indiana in a month with a bunch of guys 333 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 4: from the Sun Belt, then what the hell is anybody 334 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 4: else doing? Jed Fish, Lincoln Riley, Jonathan. 335 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: Smith, I mean, what are you doing? So it's a very. 336 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 4: Interesting thing, and I think what Indiana has accomplished will 337 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 4: go down in history. I mean I know we're in 338 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 4: a different age and it's parody. And Indiana is an 339 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 4: institution that has a lot of money, but they hiring 340 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 4: a guy from the sun Belt and he brings in 341 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: a bunch of Sun Belt coaches and players and just 342 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 4: starts running the Big ten. Is pretty amazing. Yeah, and 343 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 4: and that needs to be that needs to be lauded, 344 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: whether they beat Ohio State or not. But yeah, I 345 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 4: think that's I'm interested. You see Indiana and Ferdie Mendoza, 346 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 4: who we all watch play at Cow. So that's what 347 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 4: makes it interesting. We've all seen Ohio State perform on 348 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 4: you see him in the play. 349 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 5: Well, we got Crowning, I know you got a run. 350 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 5: We got Mick Cron and your buddy in town the 351 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 5: night taking on the dogs seven three like it. 352 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 2: But he still wears a suit. I do too. 353 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 5: I was just remarking to Dick a couple of days 354 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 5: ago that I wish more coaches did that. 355 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 4: No, they all look everybody looks like what they are 356 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: big slobs. Don't deserve everybody who dressed like they really are. 357 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 4: They're big slobs that don't deserve the paycheck. 358 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 5: Hey, you want to really do something bold, go put 359 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 5: that Lane, Kiff and Chicken outfit on and cut a 360 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 5: hole out where you're junk is. 361 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 2: Wear that to a game? Yeah, with some turf shoes. 362 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 4: I get him talking, all right, Grayson team issued turf shoes. 363 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 5: We're talking a week buddy. All right, well done, see 364 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 5: him man the shoe Spopinokas. 365 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 2: Grab your DUTs with us on the show. 366 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: Kevin Harlan coming up at five three. 367 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: You know, Kevin Hurlim, Cool of the game. 368 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 6: From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now 369 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 6: back to Softy and Dick on your home for the Huskies, 370 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 6: Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point 371 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 6: three kJ R FM. 372 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 3: Hi, Kevin Harlan's coming up. 373 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 2: You heard. 374 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 5: Petro's excited for the visit with Kevin Harlan. He's back 375 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 5: after a week off. He actually took two weeks off. 376 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 5: You guys noticed that, by the way, took two weeks 377 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 5: off from radio, TV to the whole thing. 378 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 3: Got a little bit of a break. 379 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 5: You know, he's busting his ass man working for Amazon 380 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 5: during the NBA season and CBS for TV, Westwood One 381 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 5: on radio on Monday nights, and then he turns around 382 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 5: and he does it all for CBS and the NCAA 383 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 5: tournament coming up in March. 384 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: I mean, the guy's a machine man, He. 385 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: Is a machine. 386 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 7: Can I Can I just bring one thing up that 387 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 7: you talked to Petros about? 388 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: I want to sure. I want to make sure bring. 389 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 5: Two things up if you want, go ahead. You want 390 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 5: to talk about Lane Kiffin's nuts? Is that what you 391 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 5: were talking about? Hanging out him his chicken suit? 392 00:19:58,920 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: Not that? 393 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 7: Did he claim that the Huskies were not competitive against 394 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 7: Ohio State, Oregon in Michigan? 395 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 5: I don't remember did he say that. I would say 396 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 5: they were competitive against Oregon. I don't think they were 397 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 5: competitive against Michigan, especially in the second half. They got 398 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 5: run over by them in the second half. The Ohio State. 399 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 5: I mean, you and I have debated that before, right, 400 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 5: what that really looks like? I mean, let's face it, Dick, 401 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 5: the offense didn't show up in any of those games. 402 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: No, No, they did. 403 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 7: I'm totally I'm totally in agreement. But I think the 404 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 7: defense kept them in all three games. And so and 405 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 7: I've seen this. I've seen this a lot of places. 406 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 7: I've seen Wilner talk about it. Just like there's this 407 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 7: perception out there that if you didn't watch any of 408 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 7: those games, that the Huskies just got dominated in all 409 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 7: three games. And I just I went to two of them, okay, 410 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 7: and I didn't see that. 411 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I would just say this, you do you, 412 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 5: God bless you. I am going to tell you right 413 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 5: now that I'm not going to sit here and debate 414 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 5: three losses and try to find some silver lining of 415 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 5: whether or not the Huskies got overrun, got dominated, or 416 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 5: were competitive. They lost all three and the offense was 417 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 5: horrific in every single one they played. 418 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 3: That's what I saw. Did I see a defense that 419 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 3: was pretty good? Yeah? 420 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 5: I also saw an Ohio State football team that knew 421 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 5: that their defense was not going to allow the Dogs 422 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 5: to score a point right in that game, and that 423 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 5: may have influenced their quarter and a rookie quarterback who 424 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 5: got a lot better as the year went on, by 425 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 5: the way, after that game. But I mean, do we 426 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 5: take solas I guess in that that I mean they 427 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 5: lost twenty four to six, They lost twenty four to seven, 428 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 5: and they lost twenty six to fourteen. I think the 429 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 5: Oregon game of all three of them, the Oregon game 430 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 5: was one that was the closest. 431 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 7: Yes, Yes, I would agree with that, And I just 432 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 7: think that, you know, these I think I'm comparing them. 433 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 7: I'm spending so much time maybe comparing him to what 434 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 7: happened last year, right, because last year every time we 435 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 7: played a good degree, yeah we got smashed. 436 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 437 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 5: Well, I mean they're closing the gap, right, If that's 438 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 5: what you're getting at. I think you're technically correct, yes, 439 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 5: that they are closing the gap between them and those 440 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 5: other teams. I mean, Iowa kicked their ass, Indiana kicked 441 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 5: their ass, Penn State kicked their ass, and Oregon kicked 442 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 5: their ass. 443 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: Those were true ass gass kickings. 444 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 5: But the Buckeye game, they were never gonna even score 445 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 5: remotely enough points to have any chance of winning that game. 446 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 5: Michigan they fell apart in the second half. So yeah, 447 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 5: I mean look, I mean you want to debate it 448 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 5: and go detail and whatever, that's fine, But I just 449 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 5: think that is I mean, that's a question for Jedfish, right, like. 450 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: What do you need to do? 451 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 4: Man? 452 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 5: What do you need to do Because they've played seven 453 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 5: or eight of these games. I mean, if you want 454 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 5: to include the Michigan game a year ago, uh, that's fine. 455 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 5: I thought they were I've never seen a Michigan Wolverine 456 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 5: football team. That ineptic quarterback is the one that we 457 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 5: saw a year ago come to Seattle. 458 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: But they're still Michigan. And you know what, they also 459 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: won eight games a year ago. 460 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 5: I think people kind of forget that that, Yeah, that 461 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 5: was not a very good Michigan football team. But they 462 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 5: also went eight and five last season. So let's just 463 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 5: give them the Michigan game for the sake of argument. 464 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 5: Every other big game they played against a big name opponent, 465 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 5: they either a got destroyed or b did not show 466 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 5: up offensively. 467 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: That's right. 468 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 7: But if we can make the same, if we can 469 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 7: cut into the gap as much as the Huskies did 470 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 7: from twenty fives or twenty five as well, do that 471 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 7: from twenty five to twenty six you're in the playoffs. 472 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 5: Well, I think I think you got to keep going. Obviously. 473 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 5: It's like you know when you start to you know, 474 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 5: go on the treadmill. You know, one day you go 475 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 5: a mile, then you a couple miles, and all of 476 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 5: a sudden, you wake up one day and you're you're 477 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 5: putting three and a half four miles and you feel 478 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 5: pretty good. You do five push ups today, you do 479 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 5: ten push ups tomorrow. So they got to find a 480 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 5: way to keep that thing going. I think it's going 481 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 5: to start with a different brand of player, and that's 482 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 5: why I love the fact that they went out and 483 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 5: got Cody Green, who's the number one player in California, 484 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 5: the number four offensive ten overall. 485 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 3: Now obviously he's got ties. What to Eastside Catholic? 486 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 2: Is that right? 487 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 5: And then went down to matter Day was it was? 488 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 5: It was it one year or two years? He spent 489 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 5: a matter Day, But he's a he's a local guy 490 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 5: and he just happened to move down there to play football. 491 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 5: And I mean, I don't would he have been the 492 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 5: number four tackle in the country if he had stayed 493 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 5: at Eastside Catholic. 494 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 495 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: Maybe. 496 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 5: I mean JT toom Allowed did pretty damn good for 497 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 5: himself coming out of Eastside Catholic. 498 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 7: I think there's a few schools in Washington, Eastside Catholic 499 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 7: being one of them, better on than national recruiting. 500 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: That's right, app that's right, But you're but it's still 501 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: modern Day's modern day. 502 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 7: I mean, they won the national championship last season, so 503 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 7: they're certainly at a higher level than Eastside. 504 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 3: No doubt. 505 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 5: I mean, I think any time you go down there 506 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: and play against that kind of talent, you're doing you're 507 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 5: you're doing yourself a favor and that you're preparing yourself 508 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 5: for the next level, maybe a little more so than 509 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 5: if you had stayed here and played in that conference. 510 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: But I I think he knows it. 511 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 5: And I I just look at the offensive line for example, 512 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 5: man like next year, And it's funny you brought this 513 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 5: update because I was actually jotting down some notes during 514 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 5: the break. Cody Green starter at left tackle. Maybe I 515 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 5: think they're gonna give him that shot. Jed talked about 516 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 5: that today at the press conference. We can ask him 517 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 5: when he comes on at six pm. John Mills is 518 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 5: coming back, Lendon Hatchet's coming back, and Drew as a 519 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 5: Party's coming back, and so at right guard? 520 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: Is it pockey fee? 521 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 5: Now do they move Zach Hanning over there, who was 522 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 5: a center for a while when Landon hurt his hand. 523 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 5: They they've got the makings of what looks like potentially 524 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 5: a pretty good offensive line, much better than they were 525 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 5: a couple of years ago, and I think even better 526 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 5: than they are this year. 527 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 7: Well yeah, just because a lot of the I mean 528 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 7: you get familiar names. Now, it's almost like what you 529 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 7: had from from the twenty twenty two season to the 530 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 7: twenty twenty three season. You got all those guys back, 531 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 7: and look they turned into the Joe More Award winners. 532 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: Right, that's right. 533 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 7: Not because I mean there wasn't a lot of were 534 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 7: there superstar offensive line? 535 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 3: It was funny about that, Dick. 536 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: Do you mention that? 537 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 5: Because I was just gonna ask you when when the 538 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 5: season started in twenty twenty three, did you think the 539 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 5: Huskies had the best offensive line in college football? 540 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 4: No? 541 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: I didn't. 542 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 7: I thought they just had a veteran solid offensive line. 543 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 7: And I think next year the Huskies will have a 544 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 7: veteran solid offensive line with one exception, which is a 545 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 7: superstar freshman. 546 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 5: Well they Troy Fontanu was the one guy that I 547 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 5: remember Millan when he were talking about like Jackson Kirkland, 548 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 5: he'd be like, hey, Jackson's nice, but that fat Tano 549 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 5: guy he can play. He did the same thing with 550 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 5: Caleb when everyone was talking about Trey Adams, and Trey 551 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 5: obviously got hurt his back Blue. Remember he was like 552 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 5: a first round draft pick for a while there at 553 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 5: you and then he got hurt but yeah, I'm totally 554 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 5: with you. I never thought going into that year that 555 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 5: that offensive line was going to be that good. In hell, 556 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 5: there's no way any Husky fans starting that season thought 557 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 5: they were going to play for the national championship. I 558 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 5: remember talking to you. I think you and I were 559 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 5: in a car driving somewhere and you looked at me. 560 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 5: This is like late October, early in November, and I 561 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 5: felt the same way. I'm not calling you out here, 562 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 5: trust me, because I felt the exact same way. You're like, 563 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 5: they're not going to play for the national title. Remember 564 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 5: they just open they'd make the playoff. Yes, I mean 565 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 5: everyone thought they'd get killed by Oregon. The way they 566 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 5: played against Oregon State and the way they played against 567 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 5: Wazoo in the Apple Cup, right having to pull that 568 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 5: rabbit out of their ass on front down. Nobody thought 569 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 5: they had a shot against Oregon and they basically, you know, 570 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 5: they they were the much better team that day. 571 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 7: Overall, it was bizarre how that regular season ended with 572 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 7: that Oregon State game and the rain storm the Wazoo game. 573 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 7: I mean, they're just squeaking these things out, and yet 574 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 7: they go to the play coda or they go to 575 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 7: the BACKDELD Championship game. Win that game, fairly decidedly win 576 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 7: against Texas, fairly decided. 577 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 5: Remember how bad Pennix looked in the Apple Cup. Oh 578 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 5: my god, Remember that when he was going over to 579 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 5: the sniff and that whatever it was on the sideline. 580 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 3: Everyone's like, what's he doing? 581 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 5: There were rumors about a broken rib for Michael Pennix, 582 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 5: and then he goes to the Texas game and he 583 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 5: freaking looks unbelievable. I mean, if they would have had 584 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 5: the Heisman vote the day after the Texas game, Mike 585 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 5: Pennix is the Heisman Trophy winner, without question. 586 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 3: He's the Heisman Trophy winner if they had wind. 587 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 5: All right, we'll do a little testimonials next, and then 588 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 5: Kevin Harlan coming up at five on ninety three three 589 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 5: kJ RFM