Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday Midday
Speaker 1: and a cold Saturday morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I tell you what, you never know what you're gonna
Speaker 1: get when you wake up in the morning. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's always something, sometimes good, sometimes not so good. Well,
Speaker 1: this morning was a good one. Woke up to the
Speaker 1: news that none other than Venezuelan dictators strong man is
Speaker 1: picked up. He's Gonzo, no more, no more fooling around.
Speaker 3: With that guy. He's gone.
Speaker 1: Nicholas Maduro, president strongman, whatever you want to call him.
Speaker 1: He claimed to be I guess president of Venezuela, but
Speaker 1: he was not elected in any kind of election that
Speaker 1: was sanctioned. Strong evidence that he cheated to get there.
Speaker 3: So we got him.
Speaker 1: We got him not only with military force, but law
Speaker 1: enforcement personnel.
Speaker 3: We're involved in it as well.
Speaker 1: And at eleven o'clock President Trump is going to have
Speaker 1: a news conference and make a statement. We will be
Speaker 1: covering that as I understand it. But the thing is
Speaker 1: almost never never starts on time, so my guess be
Speaker 1: probably somewhere closer to eleven thirty.
Speaker 3: But he's captured.
Speaker 1: He and his wife, they will both be guests tonight
Speaker 1: at the Federal Crowbar Hotel somewhere in the United States
Speaker 1: courtesy of the United States government, and President Trump made
Speaker 1: a statement on X I guess yeah, X no true
Speaker 1: social I think, And what he said basically was that, look,
Speaker 1: you know, we warned this guy. We told him, we
Speaker 1: told him we're going to come and get him, told
Speaker 1: him to stop doing what he was doing, and he didn't.
Speaker 1: Captured and flown out of the country. It was a
Speaker 1: large scale strike carried out by the military. Explosions reported
Speaker 1: in Caracas and elsewhere. It was a US military's Delta Force,
Speaker 1: and of course I'm sure you know about them.
Speaker 3: They're an elite special forces unit.
Speaker 1: They carried out the operation to capture at Maduro, and
Speaker 1: in the coming days we will find.
Speaker 3: Out more and more and more about it.
Speaker 1: The strikes follow months of US military built up. We
Speaker 1: had a aircraft carry down there, the Gerald R.
Speaker 3: Ford So and.
Speaker 1: In recent weeks we have seized two oil tankers off
Speaker 1: the Venezuelan coach coast and as you know, launched a
Speaker 1: number of strikes I think it's about thirty on the
Speaker 1: drug boats carrying drugs and what President Trump called the
Speaker 1: dock area.
Speaker 3: Where they load the boats up with drugs. They hit
Speaker 3: that too.
Speaker 1: So you know, if you're a mother, father, whatever, a
Speaker 1: family member that has lost someone to drug abuse, I
Speaker 1: think you're probably happy this morning. But you got the
Speaker 1: people that are whining and already, and we will talk
Speaker 1: about them in a little bit.
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: When I woke up this morning, it gives me a
Speaker 1: sense of pride in my country. I mean not because
Speaker 1: people died or anything like that, but because when we
Speaker 1: say something in the form of President Trump being the
Speaker 1: United States president, we mean it. And I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: you got to hand it to that guy, even if
Speaker 1: you don't like him, of course they never will.
Speaker 3: If he says he's gonna do something, he does it. Anyway.
Speaker 1: He was indicted to back in March twenty twenty all
Speaker 1: kinds of serious strong fellony, drug charges, narco terrorism, other
Speaker 1: kinds of things, and he will now he will now
Speaker 1: stand trial on that. And interestingly enough, Gary Jeff pointed
Speaker 1: this out. It is six years to the day that
Speaker 1: under the leadership of President George H. W. Bush, we
Speaker 1: snatched up Manuel Noriega, same kind of deal drug kingpin,
Speaker 1: got him back here, tried him, he was convicted, convicted,
Speaker 1: locked up here from nineteen ninety to two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: and then I didn't know this. France got him for
Speaker 1: a year twenty ten to twenty eleven. He has returned
Speaker 1: to Panama to serve his sentences for the crimes he
Speaker 1: committed in that country, and he died in prison complications
Speaker 1: from brain surgery. So you know, at the bottom line,
Speaker 1: you can run, but you can't hide. If we have
Speaker 1: strong leadership in the White House, we're gonna get you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get you one way or the other. And
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, it's not as if the
Speaker 1: guy wasn't warned. So for me, I woke up this
Speaker 1: morning heard about that a renewed sense of pride in
Speaker 1: being a citizen of the United States of America. We
Speaker 1: are no longer seen as a pitiful giant, if you will.
Speaker 1: I've seen as a country that when we say we're
Speaker 1: going to do something, we do it. Now, compare and
Speaker 1: contrast this with the bungled and deadly Afghaan pullout from Afghanistan.
Speaker 3: I'm sure we all remember that.
Speaker 1: It was August of two thousand and one.
Speaker 3: I watched that and my jaw drop just aghast.
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable, so chaotic, so bungled, and so deadly.
Speaker 1: I think we lost thirteen service members because of that,
Speaker 1: and that was a huge embarrassment for the United States
Speaker 1: of America, perhaps the biggest, if not one of the biggest,
Speaker 1: that we have ever had, all because of the commander
Speaker 1: in chief at the time. He was out the lunch,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. And you know, I'm sorry, I mean, the guy.
Speaker 1: We are going to be paying for him for years
Speaker 1: and years to come. And just ask yourself a question too,
Speaker 1: I mean, what if this or carry out Well, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been under either of those two, but just
Speaker 1: say that it was. I mean, Kamala Harris, please spare me.
Speaker 1: That wasn't going to happen, and thank goodness it didn't.
Speaker 1: But you get back to the Afghanistan thing. Thirteen service
Speaker 1: members killed, we left behind. I think the figure was
Speaker 1: about seven or eight billion dollars worth of very very
Speaker 1: complex and useful military gear that apparently a lot of
Speaker 1: it fell into the hands of al Qaeda. So we're
Speaker 1: arming our enemies through our negligence. And then to top
Speaker 1: it all off, Joe Biden classified it as an extraordinary success.
Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 1: And already, already the boo birds are out, one of
Speaker 1: which is a Republican Senator Mike Lee of Utah.
Speaker 3: You know he's all wound up that.
Speaker 1: Well, Congress wasn't notified, what's the president's authority? Blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And there's Democrats saying that now as well. Now,
Speaker 1: just let's think about this for a minute. Congress wasn't
Speaker 1: not if I will first and foremost, they don't have
Speaker 1: to be. And if they did, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: I mean, if the president, I don't know how he
Speaker 1: would do it. I guess he'd have to address Congress
Speaker 1: or whatever. If he told them, not ask their permission,
Speaker 1: but told them what was going to happen. How long
Speaker 1: do you think that would take to get transmitted to
Speaker 1: Caracas or somewhere else in Venezuela.
Speaker 3: You got to be kidne me. There's no way, there's
Speaker 3: no way.
Speaker 1: And with respect to his authority to do this, President Trump,
Speaker 1: Article two, Section two clause one, I mean, he's the
Speaker 1: commander in chief, he commands the military, and he is
Speaker 1: well within his power to deploy them for short term,
Speaker 1: limited action. Now, of course, if there's going to be
Speaker 1: a a prolonged situation, then Congress can say, probably justifiably so,
Speaker 1: that they should have been notified.
Speaker 3: That ain't the case here. So I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 1: Although you know, somebody will probably file suit in some
Speaker 1: federal court because of judge shopping. They may very well
Speaker 1: find an Obama or Biden appointee that will kind of
Speaker 1: substitute their judgment for that of the commander in chief.
Speaker 3: I look for that to happen.
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be successful if it's fair, but
Speaker 1: you know, they'll probably do a deal where well, you know, sorry,
Speaker 1: you're going to have to return him to Venezuela. And
Speaker 1: I say that kind of tongue in cheek, but not really.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just don't know anymore. And you have
Speaker 1: so many federal judges, well, so many people that are
Speaker 1: parading around are impersonating. I guess it's the word. Federal
Speaker 1: judges who are nothing more than activist, My goodness. In
Speaker 1: this administration, how often have we seen that? Well, here's
Speaker 1: an example of the after action report, so to speak.
Speaker 1: From the Democrats. You got Senator Reuben Diego. I don't
Speaker 1: know what state he's from, but he's a Democrat. Quote,
Speaker 1: this war is illegal. Close quote. Shortly after we launched
Speaker 1: these strikes against Venezuela, he comes out, he wrote on
Speaker 1: x this war is illegal. The senator he isn't. I
Speaker 1: admire him for this. US Marine Corps veteran who was
Speaker 1: deployed in Iraq called it the second unjustified war in
Speaker 1: my lifetime. Again, why can't you just sit back and
Speaker 1: take pride in your country? You know, for those that
Speaker 1: really don't follow it that closely red China was making
Speaker 1: a lot of headway into Venezuela, as was Russia. You know,
Speaker 1: I think Trump recognizes the Monroe doctrine. We have to
Speaker 1: be pre eminent in South America.
Speaker 3: We have to.
Speaker 1: But no, let's start picking on him and backbiting and
Speaker 1: everything else. And one of the good things about this too,
Speaker 1: is that the opposition leader you probably have heard her report,
Speaker 1: Maria Corrina Machado. She's the one I believe that won
Speaker 1: the one the Nobel Peace Prize, and she praised President
Speaker 1: Trump when she accepted it and said that he should
Speaker 1: probably should have gotten it.
Speaker 3: She's already on the air. I've seen her a couple
Speaker 3: times this morning.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you there are a lot of people
Speaker 1: on one of my I know, the president is another
Speaker 1: who would love to see her installed as the president
Speaker 1: or the leader whatever they want to call him in Venezuela,
Speaker 1: because that country, which is so rich in oil and
Speaker 1: natural resources and was really an economy in a country
Speaker 1: to be envied not too long ago. It would be
Speaker 1: great if she can be installed somehow as a leader
Speaker 1: of that country. However, I did here this morning coming
Speaker 1: in the vice president of Venezuela, obviously someone that would
Speaker 1: have supported the ousted guy that got out of there.
Speaker 3: He says now that he is the commander in chief.
Speaker 1: So anyway, Nicholas Maduro's VP says, I'm the man. Well,
Speaker 1: and again getting back to the lady who were just
Speaker 1: talking about Maria Corona Machado, here's what she said. And
Speaker 1: I don't think this was yesterday. I think this might
Speaker 1: have been a couple of weeks ago. We the Venezuela
Speaker 1: and people are very grateful to him, meaning the president
Speaker 1: and his administration, because I believe he is a champion
Speaker 1: of freedom in this hemisphere. See that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The hemisphere is important to us. Biden just kind of
Speaker 1: let it go by the wayside, but President Trump is
Speaker 1: re establishing the American presence in that area. I guess
Speaker 1: they hit him pretty hard. According to CBS, they able
Speaker 1: to Grain of Salt, Caracas military bases, and Major Venezuela
Speaker 1: in port A, Major Venezuelan port was hit by the
Speaker 1: US air strikes. That's what the political opposition says, some
Speaker 1: guy named David Smolonsky. He's a spokesman for opposition leader
Speaker 1: Oh the good One. Maria Karina Machado told CBS News
Speaker 1: the following locations were among those that were hit. Fueraday
Speaker 1: Tijuana main artillery base in Caracas, La Carlata main air
Speaker 1: base in Caracas, El Vulcan Signal antenna post, and Laguira Port,
Speaker 1: which is a seaport on the Caribbean coast. So they
Speaker 1: hit him pretty hard. And you know, if it hasn't
Speaker 1: started already, what you're going to be hearing is, well, okay,
Speaker 1: you know they got the dictator out, but why did
Speaker 1: you have to hit all those ports?
Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: The President's response to that will be, but I am
Speaker 1: certain whatever it is, it will be justified. I guess
Speaker 1: it all boils down to this you know, I'm an attorney,
Speaker 1: and obviously I care about the law and the proper
Speaker 1: application of the law. But why should I or any
Speaker 1: other American citizen really care if we hit all of
Speaker 1: these places and there was a military or other reason
Speaker 1: for it, which at eleven o'clock, I suppose the President's going.
Speaker 3: To lay that out.
Speaker 1: You know, immediately you got the ones that are saying, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, he can't do this, he's violating the Constitution.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: I woke up this morning, I turned on the TV,
Speaker 1: I watched it, and it made me more proud than
Speaker 1: there already am to be an American. So I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about what these other people say. But
Speaker 1: you know, you can bet your bottom dollar probably by
Speaker 1: the end of the day or within a couple of days,
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna file suits saying he doesn't have the authority
Speaker 1: to do this. Let's send Ma Duro back, you know,
Speaker 1: because of it. I guess we'll see. I have to
Speaker 1: see what happens on that. But again, the way I
Speaker 1: look at it, and I think probably the way a
Speaker 1: lot of you look at it, is it's pride in
Speaker 1: our country.
Speaker 3: You know, we are important.
Speaker 1: Again, We're not a laughing stock after Afghanistan, we were.
Speaker 1: That was an absolute disaster. To watch that. It made
Speaker 1: me sick and there was no reason whatsoever for it.
Speaker 1: And Biden at the time said, well, you know, Trump
Speaker 1: wanted to get out, and he did. Trump was upfront
Speaker 1: about that during the campaign, but not like that. There
Speaker 1: is no way under President Trump that that would have happened.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't have They would have pulled out. They would
Speaker 1: have done it in a responsible way where American service
Speaker 1: members would not have been killed, and where we wouldn't
Speaker 1: have left behind seven eight billion dollars of military equipment.
Speaker 1: It's all a matter of how you do it. But
Speaker 1: you know, poor Joe, he was out of it and
Speaker 1: he probably didn't know what the.
Speaker 3: Heck he was doing.
Speaker 1: And again, you know, I don't say that lightly, I
Speaker 1: really don't. I have been for years very critical of
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter. His presidency was pretty much a disaster. But
Speaker 1: he was a moral man and he was a man
Speaker 1: who had his wits about him. And if you know
Speaker 1: what hit the fan in any kind of real jam
Speaker 1: that the United States got in militarily, I think he
Speaker 1: would have wrote Risen to the occasion, I do. Thankfully
Speaker 1: that didn't happen so we didn't have to see. But
Speaker 1: what Joe Biden or even worse, Kamala Harris. I mean,
Speaker 1: can you imagine that, Kamala Harris Commander in chief of
Speaker 1: the United States Military. It just it scares you to
Speaker 1: even think about it. And you know, we didn't really
Speaker 1: come close to having that, but we could have.
Speaker 3: We could have.
Speaker 1: So as the day unfolds and as the President has
Speaker 1: his news conference at eleven o'clock at least scheduled, we're
Speaker 1: going to get a lot of particulars on this. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think it's great.
Speaker 1: I think we are re establishing ourselves in that hemisphere again.
Speaker 1: If you if you don't know anything about it, just
Speaker 1: read up on it. Red China, Communists, China and Russia
Speaker 1: and others have really tried to exert influence down there
Speaker 1: and we can't have it. It sounds like that's over
Speaker 1: as far as Venezuela goes, but of course we'll keep
Speaker 1: an eye on it. Hey, as always, I want to
Speaker 1: hear what you have to think about this. I really do.
Speaker 1: Today seven for nine, seven, one, eight hundred, the big
Speaker 1: one are the numbers Mike Allen Saturday. Hey, we're back
Speaker 1: my call on Saturday midday. Just watching some coverage on
Speaker 1: Fox about this. Uh, actually trying to get it turned
Speaker 1: down a little bit so I can speak with you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: President Trump called Fox and Friends this morning, just a
Speaker 1: little bit ago. I got to hear the tail end
Speaker 1: of it, but they're talking about what he said. I
Speaker 1: just kind of want to give you an update. Still
Speaker 1: having that press conference, and we'll get to the phones
Speaker 1: here writer if I do this. Still going to have
Speaker 1: the press conference at at eleven, but again it's always late.
Speaker 1: He did confirm that one helicopter did get hit. There
Speaker 1: were injuries, no deaths. He came back, he said, a
Speaker 1: couple of guys were hit, but they're gonna make it
Speaker 1: so don't know the extent of that yet. Again, no
Speaker 1: one passed away, but at least one, presumably soldier Army
Speaker 1: member Trow who's flying a helicopter, got hit, he confirmed.
Speaker 1: The President confirmed no retaliatory firepower whatsoever from Venezuela. They
Speaker 1: didn't respond either they didn't think it was a good
Speaker 1: idea or they just didn't know how to, but no
Speaker 1: retaliatory firepower. President said that Maduro and his wife were
Speaker 1: taken from a safe house in Caracas where they were
Speaker 1: in this safe house apparently, and the President said it's
Speaker 1: like a fortress, all kinds of metal doors and everything
Speaker 1: like that, but he said that he got bum rushed.
Speaker 1: Maduro did buy these soldiers so fast that he got him.
Speaker 1: He also said to that the military members in doing this,
Speaker 1: they had a blow torch, but they didn't need They
Speaker 1: didn't need it because they were able to get to him.
Speaker 3: He also said that he watched it live.
Speaker 1: The President watched it live, and I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: with technology the way it is today, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just amazing.
Speaker 3: And it's not even close.
Speaker 1: We have the premiere military in the world. I mean,
Speaker 1: and it's not even close. The things that they can do,
Speaker 1: these men and women, and how they execute it, and
Speaker 1: the bravery within which they executed it is probably stronger
Speaker 1: than our country has ever had, he confirmed. The president
Speaker 1: confirmed that this was supposed to happen four days ago
Speaker 1: on New Year's Eve, but the weather wasn't cooperating, so
Speaker 1: they postponed it. Apparently, when they launched it yesterday, the
Speaker 1: weather was perfect, so they had no problems with that
Speaker 1: and made the point too, if you are a drug
Speaker 1: trafficker and you are indicted by the United States, We're
Speaker 1: going to get you. And man, well, Noriega is a
Speaker 1: per example of that. Actually that was a Senator Tom Cotton,
Speaker 1: who's on now, who said that. And another thing Senator
Speaker 1: Cotton said, They asked him, well, Senator, was Congress notified.
Speaker 1: He kind of chuckled a little bit, said well no,
Speaker 1: because if they would have been, it would have leaked
Speaker 1: within minutes. So anyway, little bit more info we have
Speaker 1: again the press conference scheduled for eleven. Hey, let's get
Speaker 1: to the phones, like I promised. Let's talk to Barry
Speaker 1: in Miamisburg. Hey, how you doing Barry?
Speaker 4: Heang, Apparently the world is a better day to today. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because the President.
Speaker 2: No kidding, I mean absolutely, I mean just wow, apparently
Speaker 2: that was amazing.
Speaker 1: You know what it'll play out in the coming days.
Speaker 1: But I agree with you.
Speaker 2: Let me say something to the critics. Back when I
Speaker 2: was in high school, there was a series of movies
Speaker 2: and a book entitled The Godfather. Yeah, do you remember
Speaker 2: this book?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a.
Speaker 4: Really good book.
Speaker 2: If the Feds had swooped in to arrest the Godfather
Speaker 2: do you think that he would be the only person
Speaker 2: they arrested that day, or do you think they're taking
Speaker 2: the rest of the organization.
Speaker 1: Probably some underlings from the organization. And that's a really
Speaker 1: good point that you're making.
Speaker 3: Berry. Haven't heard anything about any other.
Speaker 1: Co defendants where they may be or you know, whether
Speaker 1: they played it on getting them or not. But they
Speaker 1: got the big fish, and that's the one you want
Speaker 1: to get first.
Speaker 2: They got the big fish. And apparently they hit some
Speaker 2: military targets. We don't know who's ryet, right, but it's
Speaker 2: the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I get it.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I woke up, I watched this
Speaker 1: and once again, I mean, I'm always proud to be
Speaker 1: an American, but sometimes it just gets reinforced and this
Speaker 1: was one of them. And you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: just to get it down to its most basic level,
Speaker 1: what it means is don't screw with the United States
Speaker 1: of America. And when the President of the United States
Speaker 1: of America, no matter who he or she may be,
Speaker 1: says they are going to do something like that, they're
Speaker 1: gonna do it. And you need to You if you're
Speaker 1: on the other end of it, like Maduro, you gotta
Speaker 1: know he's gonna do it.
Speaker 3: And for years, for years, we didn't have that.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: My other comment is during COVID, drugs from Venezuela killed
Speaker 2: more people in the United States than COVID did.
Speaker 3: Now, I did not know that.
Speaker 2: At least in this area. Somebody who talks to the
Speaker 2: corner as they're picking up bodies from the hospital, yeah.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't doubt it. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: Anyone involved in the criminal justice system in any way,
Speaker 1: or if you're an er, nurse or something like that,
Speaker 1: knows what drugs are doing to our country and specifically
Speaker 1: to our youth.
Speaker 3: I've mentioned this before.
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, I had three of my
Speaker 1: clients overdose and die that was on fentanyl.
Speaker 3: And you know, these weren't sleazy drug dealers.
Speaker 1: These were people, middle class people, one of them frankly
Speaker 1: upper middle class, that got addicted to this stuff. And
Speaker 1: it's important, It's very important. And Trump recognizes this as
Speaker 1: early as twenty fifteen when he's getting ready to run
Speaker 1: the last time, he said exactly what I just said.
Speaker 3: This is a problem.
Speaker 1: It is incumbent upon us, as the government, military, law
Speaker 1: enforcement in the United States to do what we can
Speaker 1: about it, and by golly.
Speaker 3: He did it in a more power to Trumps today. Man.
Speaker 1: I agree, but he's going to catch some crap. But
Speaker 1: I kind of think I think he revels in it,
Speaker 1: which is I love that. I love how he takes
Speaker 1: these people on. I love how he takes the media on.
Speaker 1: I'll bet you he's got any number of his cabinet
Speaker 1: out tomorrow defending this. And you know, if some reporter
Speaker 1: says something or ask a question that is inappropriate, they'll
Speaker 1: get right in their face. That's something relatively new. I
Speaker 1: absolutely love that.
Speaker 2: Hey, have a nice day and be careful out there.
Speaker 3: Okay, Barry, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see in the coming days,
Speaker 1: you know how this thing plays out. But again, there's
Speaker 1: so much of a script, probably about three quarters of it.
Speaker 3: You can write yourself. You know, some member of.
Speaker 1: Congress or someone else is going to file suit somewhere
Speaker 1: to say this is horrible, it shouldn't have happened, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. Now we better ship the Dua back with
Speaker 1: Maduro back, which is preposterous. But I don't put anything
Speaker 1: past these peo. I don't put it and they'll have
Speaker 1: their demonstrations because everything is performative on the left, never substanative.
Speaker 1: It's all performative. But we'll see in the coming days. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's talk to Ransom up in Columbus. Hey, Ransom, how
Speaker 1: you doing.
Speaker 4: I am proud to be an American today just like you.
Speaker 3: Damn stream, and I'm.
Speaker 6: Very proud of you every week to get out here
Speaker 6: and deal with the You know, some people that still
Speaker 6: believe in the country and a lot of them that
Speaker 6: don't believe in the country.
Speaker 4: You and I have talked about this many times, but
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep hammering this. Proverbs twenty nine to two
Speaker 4: says when the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice,
Speaker 4: and when the unrighteous are in an authority, the people mourn.
Speaker 4: And the reason that the country's coming back. And I
Speaker 4: have some good news for all your listeners, okay, whether
Speaker 4: whether they're Christians or not. It appears that when Charlie
Speaker 4: Kirk was assassin, God decided he was going to start
Speaker 4: a waking up our country and intervening. If you want
Speaker 4: to check it out on the internet, there are more
Speaker 4: There are more young people reading their Bible and going
Speaker 4: to church and Bible sales are up maybe about sixty
Speaker 4: percent from last year. Now, go, God's do something with
Speaker 4: the next generation. But we are the generation that needs
Speaker 4: to mentor these kids, and we and the thing that
Speaker 4: we need to do. We got a midterm coming up.
Speaker 4: We got to hold these politicians on the local, state,
Speaker 4: and federal level accountable to the people who have the authority,
Speaker 4: who pay all the bills. And I know you're going
Speaker 4: to be hammering this, but while I'm just going to
Speaker 4: say this publicly to you, I've been talking to you
Speaker 4: for about a year or so about the seven Mountains
Speaker 4: of influence and they're gatekeepers, that are and the government,
Speaker 4: and the government mountain has been dominating our entire country
Speaker 4: for about the last twenty years. So at some point
Speaker 4: I would like to get on the air with you
Speaker 4: explain to your people what the seven mountains really are
Speaker 4: and how on the local, state and national level we
Speaker 4: can turn this thing around and watch God get what
Speaker 4: he wants and then mutch our country turn around and
Speaker 4: we're on our way right now. God's doing something. And
Speaker 4: I appreciate you every Saturday for being open and allowing
Speaker 4: the people to speak their mind and their beliefs.
Speaker 1: Thank you mich I appreciate that. Those are kind words.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it, you know, I think it's important
Speaker 1: to do that. I mean, I don't know. I grew
Speaker 1: up at a time when you're pretty much automatically proud
Speaker 1: to be an American. I mean, nobody had to tell
Speaker 1: you that. You didn't have to think about it. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm in first and second grade, and I knew we're
Speaker 1: in the best country in the world.
Speaker 3: Even at that young age.
Speaker 1: I knew there were problems, but hey, we're American citizens
Speaker 1: and that means something. And boy, you know, I guess
Speaker 1: coming with with the Vietnam War, the Civil rights movement,
Speaker 1: which that needed to be done, it did, and for
Speaker 1: those there are still a few I guess around that
Speaker 1: think that that was all bad.
Speaker 3: It wasn't.
Speaker 1: Those things had to happen, but we still we still
Speaker 1: came out of it. I believe, the strongest country in
Speaker 1: the world, and that kind of lagged for a while,
Speaker 1: but it's coming back. But you know what, it is
Speaker 1: so fragile. It is so fragile. That's why it's so
Speaker 1: important to boil this these platitudes down to practicality. It's
Speaker 1: critical that we keep the house and the Senate. We
Speaker 1: have to if we don't. Donald J. Trump is a
Speaker 1: lame duck. I mean technically he is anyway, but and
Speaker 1: you know, if I know him, he'll still find a
Speaker 1: way to get things done. I mean he's already cranked
Speaker 1: out any number of executive orders. But that's why in
Speaker 1: the MAGA people we talked about this. I had Alex
Speaker 1: chan to feel you on earlier in the week, I
Speaker 1: was in for slowany the magabase they don't get out
Speaker 1: and vote if Trump ain't on the ballot, and man,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, he's just snatched right on that. Alex
Speaker 1: did the chair of the Ohio GOP and said, we
Speaker 1: are ready for that, Mike. We're working on that. We
Speaker 1: understand that that's a problem. And you know, the people
Speaker 1: that support Trump ought to be able to know that
Speaker 1: if you don't put people in there that support him,
Speaker 1: he's still gonna do what he's gonna do. But you
Speaker 1: just need you need to have that base in there.
Speaker 1: So anyway, again, a great day to be an American.
Speaker 1: As I said, no casualties with respect to deaths. A
Speaker 1: couple of injuries. Apparently one was somewhat bad. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a murky, but they think that he's going to
Speaker 1: make it, so we shall see. But I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to seeing just when they lay this out, the precision
Speaker 1: of this military strike, it is. It's unbelievable what the
Speaker 1: United States military can do these days. And again, no
Speaker 1: deaths out of this thing from the United States of America,
Speaker 1: and more oftener than not. When we do something, we're
Speaker 1: able to do it with no or very little deaths, wounds,
Speaker 1: wounded people, something like that, things like that. But it's
Speaker 1: really amazing. And you know, Trump just did a thing.
Speaker 1: Some criticized him for it. The seventeen seventy six I
Speaker 1: guess it was New Year's Day or close to it.
Speaker 1: And you probably already know this, but any service member soldier, sailor, marine,
Speaker 1: coast guardsman, airmen, air woman, they got one seven hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy six dollars as a Christmas bonus from the
Speaker 1: President of the United States and obviously from the taxpayers.
Speaker 1: And while some grumbled, Hey give them anything they need
Speaker 1: because they're in there doing that job and they should
Speaker 1: be recognized. And that's not always the way it was.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a history teacher, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: y'all know that in the Vietnam War that didn't happen
Speaker 1: that way. When those young men came home, they weren't
Speaker 1: allowed to wear their uniform because they were afraid that
Speaker 1: somebody would give them some grief. Not that they couldn't
Speaker 1: very easily handle that if that's what they were told
Speaker 1: to do. But it wasn't that way forever, but it
Speaker 1: is now. It is now. You know, I spent ten
Speaker 1: years in the Army Reserve, the jag Corps. Never got
Speaker 1: anywhere close to any combat zone anything like that. And
Speaker 1: you know, people they'll ask you, are you a veteran,
Speaker 1: and I said, well, yeah, technically reserve, And I'm proud
Speaker 1: of my service.
Speaker 3: We did a lot of things.
Speaker 1: We did these what they call pre mobilization bree things
Speaker 1: where the people that were going over they're the soldiers
Speaker 1: that were going to the combat zones. We did their wills,
Speaker 1: we did powers of attorney, and again, I'm proud of
Speaker 1: that service. But I wasn't anywhere close to it. And
Speaker 1: there's been a couple of times too restaurants where they've
Speaker 1: wanted to give me a break on it. I just
Speaker 1: in good conscience, I couldn't take it because I believe me.
Speaker 1: I don't mind getting something for nothing, but it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it's right to do that
Speaker 1: when you had people that were really, really in the
Speaker 1: middle of that. I guess that's just a long way
Speaker 1: of saying that, Well, I'll tell you, we cannot do
Speaker 1: enough for these people. We just can't. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: to break it a minute. But I just wanted to
Speaker 1: kind of go over what the president said again on Fox.
Speaker 1: He'll be speaking around eleven. One helicopter did get hit, injuries,
Speaker 1: but no deaths. The helicopter was able to land. I
Speaker 1: suppose back on the USS gerald Ford, the aircraft carrier
Speaker 1: that's close to Venezuela. No retaliatory firepower from Venezuela. Maduro
Speaker 1: and his wife, they were taken from a safe house
Speaker 1: in Caracas and flown to Iwjima. That's the name that
Speaker 1: should be familiar to all of us. Were United States
Speaker 1: Marine Corps, and I think there was some army too,
Speaker 1: just so bravely fought there against overwhelming Japanese forces. But
Speaker 1: that's where they were flown. The president said that he
Speaker 1: was in a safe house. He was behind a bunch
Speaker 1: of metal doors. They knew this was coming. They knew
Speaker 1: this was coming. They got there, the service members got there,
Speaker 1: They had a blow torch ready to blow torch the
Speaker 1: hell out of that door.
Speaker 3: They didn't need it.
Speaker 1: They got him, They got him, and again they now,
Speaker 1: I believe, are flown to Evejima, probably waiting to go
Speaker 1: back to the United States. And my guess is sometime
Speaker 1: this week, perhaps maybe even as early as Monday, they well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if she's charged, but he will be
Speaker 1: arraigned before a federal judge somewhere. My guess is it
Speaker 1: would probably be the DC District. And man, there are
Speaker 1: some judges that I would describe as activist masquerading as
Speaker 1: federal judges.
Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens. But he's not.
Speaker 1: There is no way on God's green Earth that he's
Speaker 1: going to get a bond. He will be held with
Speaker 1: no bond. Trump said that he watched it live. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the technology we have now. He watched the whole
Speaker 1: thing go down live. Finally, he said it was supposed
Speaker 1: to happen four days ago New Year's Eve, but the
Speaker 1: weather prevented that. The way or weather wasn't good. He
Speaker 1: said it was great yesterday. So anyway, we have to
Speaker 1: take a break, but we're going to change gears a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 3: When we get back.
Speaker 1: We are going to be talking to live in studio
Speaker 1: Russ Neville, who I believe is the brother of the
Speaker 1: chief of Police Chief Fiji and the Neville family, and
Speaker 1: I'll let him explain it that just there is no
Speaker 1: more prominent law enforcement family in these parts than them.
Speaker 1: They're not taking this thing sitting down at all, and
Speaker 1: I'm glad we're going to talk to them about it
Speaker 1: when we get back. Mike Allen's seven hundred WLW oh
Speaker 1: Now Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday midday,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be keeping an eye on what's going
Speaker 1: on with the situation with the president and the strike
Speaker 1: and the capture of the dictator in Venezuela.
Speaker 3: We'll keep an eye on that. He says anything.
Speaker 1: He's supposed to address the nation through a press conference
Speaker 1: on at eleven o'clock, but those things never start in time.
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, something else on a local level,
Speaker 1: very very important in my humble opinion and I think others.
Speaker 1: And that's the situation and what's going on with Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Police Chief Teresa Fiji. It's the city. It's obvious they
Speaker 1: want to get rid of her. They don't know why, though,
Speaker 1: and they hired a law firm, and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to say anything bad about Frost Brown Todd because it
Speaker 1: is a good law firm. I guess they weren't able
Speaker 1: to come up with the reasons, so they got extended
Speaker 1: into February. I mean, it's kind of common sense. That
Speaker 1: just doesn't look good. It doesn't make any sense. She
Speaker 1: has an outstanding record as police chief in many years
Speaker 1: before that as a police officer, and she's got family
Speaker 1: members here to talk about it. I'll say one thing,
Speaker 1: I'll shut up and I'll let them talk. This family
Speaker 1: is not taking this sitting down, and I don't blame
Speaker 1: one bit because.
Speaker 3: It's not right. Let's start out. I have three.
Speaker 1: Just introduce yourselves and we'll go from there. I'm Russ Neville,
Speaker 1: Terry's brother.
Speaker 5: Thirty four years with the CINCINNT Police Department and left
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one, and up to the point of
Speaker 5: these circumstances, enjoyed my retirement.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 7: Rick Nevill Terry's brother retired thirty one and a half
Speaker 7: years with hamilin Kay Sheriff's Department.
Speaker 3: Kind of like Russ.
Speaker 7: Upon retirement, I kind of hung up the uniform and
Speaker 7: went under a rock, if you will, until this incident.
Speaker 3: Sure, I get that.
Speaker 8: Mike Neville the third brother, and I retired in twenty
Speaker 8: nineteen with a little over thirty three years.
Speaker 3: In law enforcement.
Speaker 1: Wow, and you count it all up, you guys. And
Speaker 1: I know you guys are modest, but I think I
Speaker 1: think the public needs to know this. You've counted up
Speaker 1: and adding in your father's time, Gary, who was a
Speaker 1: captain District III, I remember when I was a lowly
Speaker 1: police cadet. I think I told you guys this. You know,
Speaker 1: the police catch just probably they were just, I don't
Speaker 1: want to say, kicked around, but not always. It was like, hey, cadet,
Speaker 1: go get this. Your father wasn't like that. I rode
Speaker 1: a lot up there, and hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: You know, what's going on in your life? That's something
Speaker 1: that you never forget anyway. I just wanted to tell you,
Speaker 1: thank you, Russ. Why don't you start off, tell us
Speaker 1: what's going on, what you're doing? As I just said,
Speaker 1: you guys are not taking this lying down, So why
Speaker 1: don't you kick it?
Speaker 3: Off here Mike.
Speaker 5: First of all, thank you very much for the opportunity
Speaker 5: just to speak on behalf of Terry.
Speaker 3: My pleasure.
Speaker 5: I say it each time I have an opportunity to speak.
Speaker 5: This is not about a legacy element with the devils,
Speaker 5: although it's appreciated the comments. This is about support for
Speaker 5: Terry at a time of unfair and inappropriate treatment. But
Speaker 5: before we even get into that, I would like to
Speaker 5: extent I spoke to Terry just before coming in the
Speaker 5: studio and she asked that I share her one support
Speaker 5: for the Sincint Police Department, for the members of the
Speaker 5: department and for those in the administrative positions of the department,
Speaker 5: because she understands the operation of the Sinceint Police Department
Speaker 5: needs to continue forward and needs to continue forward successfully,
Speaker 5: and it needs to provide the support for the communities
Speaker 5: that are out there that need So she asked that
Speaker 5: I share that, and I want to make sure we
Speaker 5: get that in you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Those that know the situation, I think realize that, but
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't, and I think that was
Speaker 1: good that you let them know that.
Speaker 3: This chief of police.
Speaker 1: How long was she chief by the way, or is
Speaker 1: she chieved so far, well, she's.
Speaker 3: Under administrative suspect she continues to be chief. But that's
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 1: I think it's been about three years, okay, an outstanding
Speaker 1: record in a relatively short period of time.
Speaker 3: Too.
Speaker 1: I think it's important that the public know about that,
Speaker 1: know what she has done as police chief. You know,
Speaker 1: it seems to me policing and law enforcement has just
Speaker 1: changed so much over the years, and you got to
Speaker 1: stay on top of all kinds of different things. Technology
Speaker 1: being one one of the things that I'm impressed with,
Speaker 1: and I've talked to Ken Kober about this and other
Speaker 1: cops too, is the whole situation with the law enforcement
Speaker 1: use of drones. And as I understand it, that was
Speaker 1: Chief Fiji's thing. She's the one that kind of got
Speaker 1: that going.
Speaker 5: She is the one that got to go in tell
Speaker 5: us about that again, Terry would be the first to
Speaker 5: say that while she in that position of chief, would
Speaker 5: be supportive and get those things done.
Speaker 3: She knows it takes a team of people, so.
Speaker 5: All the personnel that implemented it under her guidance are
Speaker 5: again appreciated by her. It's not just a new gadget's
Speaker 5: a fundamental shift. And how it keeps officers in our
Speaker 5: community safe shift. CHIEFDG. Champion, she navigated through the complex
Speaker 5: regulations and successfully lost just months before or her removal.
Speaker 3: It's a drone program. The concept is simple, Mike.
Speaker 5: When a nine one one call comes in, whether it's
Speaker 5: reporting the shooting, burglary, progress, missing child, a drone piloted
Speaker 5: by Cincinnati Police officers immediately dispatched from a roofed up
Speaker 5: docking station. Because it flies to crow flies, it often
Speaker 5: arives in the scene before patrol car. It's a technology
Speaker 5: and a tool that will continue to grow and continue
Speaker 5: to enhance and continue to improve the police services while
Speaker 5: minimizing or reducing the amount of law enforcement time it
Speaker 5: takes to arrive and conduct what businesses, which then allows
Speaker 5: for officers to be in the areas of assignment more longer,
Speaker 5: more frequently, and quicker.
Speaker 3: It's a technology.
Speaker 5: It's an awesome technology, and it came under the guidance
Speaker 5: of cheap DJ right. And the point of that, Mike
Speaker 5: and I could read an entire article on it, but
Speaker 5: that's the gist of it, and we can get deeper.
Speaker 5: The point of this is we're here today to speak
Speaker 5: fact verse fiction. You know the facts are there are
Speaker 5: seven eighty nine successful leadership items that we have authored
Speaker 5: and we have placed on these support Chief DG Facebook page,
Speaker 5: and that you've been kind enough to allow us to
Speaker 5: discuss deeper today as opposed to the mythical effective narrative
Speaker 5: the city administration has placed on terror.
Speaker 1: And still looking to find a quote reason unquote to
Speaker 1: terminate her, which is just I've already said my piece
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 3: Now You're percent right.
Speaker 5: But you know, the drone, the technology, the availability of resources.
Speaker 5: She is not only open to them, she aggresses aggressively
Speaker 5: pursued them. She aggressively identifies funding for them. She aggressively
Speaker 5: identifies the appropriate team to get them, implement and get
Speaker 5: them out there and get them where they're beneficial.
Speaker 3: That is one.
Speaker 5: And I'll just go down if I could mic real
Speaker 5: quick on just a couple others, and then we can go.
Speaker 3: Deeper on each of them.
Speaker 1: But on the drones, I mean, I want to make
Speaker 1: this point. I've had Ken Cobra on. I know I've
Speaker 1: had others on too. CPD is a model for other
Speaker 1: police departments across the country for these drone Am I
Speaker 1: right about that?
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I am.
Speaker 5: You're right, Yeah, Mike, it's it's a national model, it's active,
Speaker 5: and it's beneficial. And I'll say it again, it came
Speaker 5: under the guidance, leadership, management and oversight of Cheap DG
Speaker 5: during her tenure. What it's about officer safety and citizen safety,
Speaker 5: is it not?
Speaker 3: I mean both. You look at certain.
Speaker 5: Calls for service, such as shots fired, you get a
Speaker 5: drone there quicker than a patrol officer would typically arrive.
Speaker 3: You get that bird's eye view.
Speaker 5: You have tracking mechanisms, you have viewing mechanisms, you have
Speaker 5: communications mechanisms. So those officers that then are responding can
Speaker 5: respond in a safer and to some degree even a
Speaker 5: quicker because they know exactly what route to take, exactly
Speaker 5: what path to take. They identify who the potential victims are,
Speaker 5: they identify who the potential suspects are, and it allows
Speaker 5: for a safer approach, a safer resolution, and a quicker resolution.
Speaker 1: I get it. And you know, you guys all been
Speaker 1: police officers for so long. I would think that if
Speaker 1: you're a police officer responding to a call, a pretty
Speaker 1: serious call, kind of nice to know what you're going into.
Speaker 5: And the drone provides that. It's unfathomable to me. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean the fact that I'm not into technology, and
Speaker 5: thank goodness, Terry and others within the department now are
Speaker 5: they can grow these tools and take make the benefits
Speaker 5: of the tools, or use the tools to benefit operations.
Speaker 7: I got to believe that this system will morph into
Speaker 7: many more systems throughout Hamilton County.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and beyond. You know, tristate so designer standard.
Speaker 1: A lot of departments all over the country are contacting
Speaker 1: CPD because they're a leader in it, and they're a
Speaker 1: leader in it for a reason, and that is our
Speaker 1: police chief in my humble opinion. Another thing, and you
Speaker 1: guys provided me with this and these are all so
Speaker 1: well written and so accurate.
Speaker 3: The range, the target range doesn't.
Speaker 1: Sound like a sexy issue, doesn't sound like something that's
Speaker 1: that big of a deal. But I mean, going back
Speaker 1: to the Dark Ages a short period of time I
Speaker 1: was on it was kind of a hot potato back then,
Speaker 1: and it just kind of sat. And there has been
Speaker 1: reporting on this, but tell us how cheap Fiji kind
Speaker 1: of finally solved this nagging problem after years and years
Speaker 1: and years.
Speaker 5: She took ownership of it. Mike, it was neglected for
Speaker 5: over twenty years. Residents and community reps from Lincoln Heights, Woodlawn,
Speaker 5: Evendale complained to the city administration about the target range
Speaker 5: located in Evendale. Some of the catarrans identify were trauma,
Speaker 5: mental health effects on children, physical health impacts from consistent
Speaker 5: high decibel fire gunfire, and confusion acts about whether sounds
Speaker 5: were from range or actual gunfire. While no other administration
Speaker 5: had the forethought or vision or the benefit guarded from
Speaker 5: relocating the target range, sheep Terry did. She had to
Speaker 5: work ethic, leadership, traits, comprehension and long term benefit, and
Speaker 5: the ability to bring a state, county and local partners
Speaker 5: together for funding input to accomplish the dawning task is
Speaker 5: through numerous tumultuous meetings. I had talked to her while
Speaker 5: this process was. It went on for years, well involving her.
Speaker 5: It wasn't as young as that when she took the
Speaker 5: steps to achieve it. They were briefer, but yes, it
Speaker 5: was years and years in the coming. The funding was
Speaker 5: secure and the properties identified, you know, partnerships it took
Speaker 5: to to provide it. It came about and now there's
Speaker 5: a new state of the art target range. Which is
Speaker 5: actually a regional safety complex when you think about it,
Speaker 5: is other pds are going to use it too, right, Yes,
Speaker 5: it's in partnership with Cincinnati and Hamilon County. Obviously those
Speaker 5: other agencies that fall under the umbrella of that will
Speaker 5: be able to get full benefit from it as well.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know the funding source of the project.
Speaker 5: You know, there's various funding sources that came in and
Speaker 5: it took numerous meetings, numerous, oh I can imagine. But
Speaker 5: with that said, all came about under Cheap DG's tenure.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: The Target Range not on Miami River Road, officially opened
Speaker 5: in October of twenty four, you know, and I apologize.
Speaker 5: It was begun in October twenty four, projected for completion
Speaker 5: in twenty six. So during her you know, speaking on
Speaker 5: the range which I used every year with the Sheriff's department,
Speaker 5: the water system was atrocious down there, and that was
Speaker 5: another concern that the Terry head quite a bit going
Speaker 5: into there was the water system, and that in fact
Speaker 5: was adamant that it was city water. What have you
Speaker 5: to for the troops for safety mechanism, you know, for
Speaker 5: for health, for drinking the water. So that was a
Speaker 5: big deal to her before she would sign any paperwork
Speaker 5: in that I mean a really big deal deal.
Speaker 1: And I know and Russ mentioned it a big deal
Speaker 1: for the neighboring people too. And again, that issue has
Speaker 1: been around, even going back to the seventies when I
Speaker 1: was on So you.
Speaker 5: Think about it, Mike, in two and a half, three
Speaker 5: years just on that topic alone and enhanced the lives
Speaker 5: of several communities on the border of Cincinnati. Right, improves
Speaker 5: the equality of training obtained by law enforcement throughout Hamilton County,
Speaker 5: and obviously that then provides a better service to the
Speaker 5: communities that are served. In two and a half years, Mike,
Speaker 5: she took one topic such as this that had been
Speaker 5: lamiting for twenty plus minutes, and she saw the vision,
Speaker 5: she saw the benefits, she saw the goal, she saw
Speaker 5: where it could be, and she achieved it.
Speaker 3: And I go back to.
Speaker 5: Effective leadership versus mythical ineffective leadership. Right, we speak facts,
Speaker 5: they speak subjectivity.
Speaker 1: Well, and you're getting your message out and I'm happy
Speaker 1: to be a part of that. One of the things
Speaker 1: in policing today, and I'm sure you guys know, is
Speaker 1: retention and recruiting. I was talking at ken cole Or
Speaker 1: not too long ago, told me, I guess the CPD
Speaker 1: had authorization and money for a class. I think, he said,
Speaker 1: I think thirty. But they haven't started the class yet
Speaker 1: because they can't find thirty people, which is and you
Speaker 1: guys are probably way, not way a little bit behind you.
Speaker 1: But I remember taking that test and we hadn't take
Speaker 1: it twice because we got laid off. At the convention center.
Speaker 1: There were two three thousand people there. It just amazes
Speaker 1: me how that has changed in a relatively short period
Speaker 1: of time. It's a real challenge now for departments to
Speaker 1: find people that want to do the job. So whoever
Speaker 1: wants to speak to that, I think it's really important.
Speaker 3: Mike, I will.
Speaker 8: This issue was growing for some time the police departments
Speaker 8: kind of aging out right. Retirements were coming, and along
Speaker 8: those same lines retirements coming, you had a bit of
Speaker 8: anti police of sorts through It was building throughout the country, right,
Speaker 8: So this taste of wanting to be an officer like
Speaker 8: any of us three including yourself before us, that flavor
Speaker 8: started to fade. And when you don't have the bodies coming,
Speaker 8: but yet you have the bodies leaving, that leaves you
Speaker 8: short and there's an ill effect in that, and there's
Speaker 8: a variety of ill effects, one of them being you
Speaker 8: can't always do what you want to do as a
Speaker 8: police department because you don't have the bodies. You start
Speaker 8: taking away from some things or forcing things into officers'
Speaker 8: hands that they didn't necessarily do years ago. So from
Speaker 8: an officer standpoint, that time off a little bit of
Speaker 8: a mandatory overtime. All of those ill effects start leaving
Speaker 8: a bad taste in their mouths, and those bad tastes
Speaker 8: make it to their own residence.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 8: So Terry had this that approached her and she had
Speaker 8: to encounter in the way of bringing some light to it.
Speaker 8: So the one thing she started with is an enhancement,
Speaker 8: not new enhancement, of a wellness project or wellness thought
Speaker 8: for the officers. She knew what they were going through.
Speaker 8: So that's something that she took with live fingers into
Speaker 8: her decision and leadership, if I may, well. The other piece,
Speaker 8: Mike is you know the way you get retention, the
Speaker 8: way you bring people in, because you can't change the
Speaker 8: thought around the country overnight on police work, you start
Speaker 8: compensating for what it is that they're going to encounter, right,
Speaker 8: so she really took a bit of a leadership role,
Speaker 8: if I may, to keep going in the contract, and
Speaker 8: she sits on the city side some of that, but
Speaker 8: she also tasted and understood the officer side, so she
Speaker 8: was able to kind of financially enhance what it is
Speaker 8: an officer is presented financially to come on, because you
Speaker 8: need to really bring people's attention to the police department
Speaker 8: to bypass the ill effects, the bad taste. Right, So
Speaker 8: that's something she took on and quite honestly, the contract
Speaker 8: says she was very successful at it. The contract says,
Speaker 8: so when you take that retention need, the wellness piece,
Speaker 8: the drawing the attention of a financial reward, if I may,
Speaker 8: for what's never rewarded high enough, never will be, Terry
Speaker 8: took that into what needed to be done, and I
Speaker 8: think the outcome on paper was a success. And you
Speaker 8: don't do that not caring. You don't do that without
Speaker 8: being a leader for this city, for your officers, because
Speaker 8: it's a balance and she balanced it well in my opinion,
Speaker 8: and until until we get those numbers up, and she
Speaker 8: had a goal of so many officers for so many
Speaker 8: years to get to get us there.
Speaker 1: Okay, can you guys stay for the next segment. I
Speaker 1: really hope you can, because we got a lot more
Speaker 1: to cover. We're out of time now for this segment
Speaker 1: that will come back after the news. Mike Allen's Saturday
Speaker 1: Midnight seven hundred WLW Mike Allman Saturday Midday talking to
Speaker 1: various members of the Neville family, and we're talking about
Speaker 1: the situation with Chief Fiji.
Speaker 3: I was still trying to come up with a reason
Speaker 3: to get rid of her.
Speaker 1: They're not having a lot of luck doing that, and
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty obvious why. In my humble opinion,
Speaker 1: and I haven't been on CPD for a million years,
Speaker 1: but I watch it. In my opinion, she was one
Speaker 1: hell of a police chief. One thing I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you, Russ, the combination of District three into District five.
Speaker 1: When I saw that happening, I thought, Man, what a
Speaker 1: logistical nightmare this is going to be. And Chief Sigi
Speaker 1: was right in the middle of that. What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that? And I know it wasn't just those
Speaker 1: two merging. Other districts were affected as well.
Speaker 3: I guess what happened, Mike, was.
Speaker 5: District five used to be on Central Party, right there
Speaker 5: were structural issues. And beyond there, well, they had a
Speaker 5: range in the basement, didn't they. That was many many
Speaker 5: many moons ago. That was not during even my career,
Speaker 5: that was not active. But so when that issue developed, however,
Speaker 5: many years ago, they transitioned District five to a strip
Speaker 5: mall in College Hill. That facility was too small, but
Speaker 5: they made it work. However, many years they were there,
Speaker 5: the lease was expiring, and as the lease was expiring, like,
Speaker 5: there was no plan by the city administration on what
Speaker 5: they were going to do regarding a new District five.
Speaker 5: So once again, effective leadership, strong leadership, the willingness to
Speaker 5: take on the difficult task. Terry took that on and
Speaker 5: they came to the conclusion that the best option was
Speaker 5: to consolidate districts. And I'm the first to say, we're
Speaker 5: the first to say that not all of it was
Speaker 5: received well and not all of it is as successful
Speaker 5: as you may want, but it is the best in
Speaker 5: the best option available. So what she did is she
Speaker 5: what she with a team of folks, was the consolidation
Speaker 5: from five districts to four districts. In the long run,
Speaker 5: there's geographical changes, there's community impact, there's community meetings. But
Speaker 5: the bottom line of all of it is the operations
Speaker 5: of the department remained strong. There was no reduction in
Speaker 5: staff of any sort. There was no loss of rank
Speaker 5: of any member in the organization. As this consolidation of heard,
Speaker 5: services continue to be provided and they continue to be
Speaker 5: provided today, and it saved the city approximately i'd say
Speaker 5: twenty thirty forty million dollars in the potential of building
Speaker 5: a new District five. So I just go back to Mike.
Speaker 5: We all have our detractors, We all have people that
Speaker 5: don't agree with decisions we make and maybe even the
Speaker 5: way we make them, and Terry potentially falls under that
Speaker 5: as well. But you cannot shy away from the myth
Speaker 5: that is out there or the narrative they are trying
Speaker 5: to portray is she was an ineffective leader.
Speaker 1: It's obvious to anyone that looks at it, even casually,
Speaker 1: I think, and that's leadership, isn't it. I Mean, sometimes
Speaker 1: things don't go always as planned, especially in policing. But
Speaker 1: I mean saving the city that much money, that's a
Speaker 1: pretty big deal.
Speaker 5: Not only saving the city the money, and yes, that's
Speaker 5: critically important, but the resources were relocated to benefit the communities.
Speaker 5: The allocation was successful. Nobody lost their job, Mike, nobody
Speaker 5: lost rank or positioning. So to take that upon with
Speaker 5: the risk of all of that and succeed, two thumbs
Speaker 5: up to her. And I just keep going back to
Speaker 5: that and so on the District five or the city
Speaker 5: district consolidation. That's kind of an overview, and they're gist
Speaker 5: of the circumstances.
Speaker 3: I get it. Well.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I'm hearing and a lot
Speaker 1: of people in the system are hearing citizens too, is
Speaker 1: the situation, uh with judges and you know, the change
Speaker 1: of how the courthouse is. Chief Fiji was I mean
Speaker 1: active in monitoring that. I guess what did she do
Speaker 1: from a leadership perspective on that, because it's a big issue. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean she was a participant with other county law
Speaker 1: enforcement agencies to put together a body that would make
Speaker 1: it public information or accountability on judges, on sentences and bonds,
Speaker 1: and just to make it transparency, provide transparency. That board
Speaker 1: continues to operate even with Chief Diji removed, but it
Speaker 1: was her initiation that brought it and I we are
Speaker 1: of the opinion that was one of the significant, significant
Speaker 1: elements that led to her administrative suspension. They can hide
Speaker 1: from it, they can deny it, they can lie about it,
Speaker 1: but it's fact. And even the Hamion County Chiefs Association,
Speaker 1: I believe is what they're called, recently publicly thanked and
Speaker 1: gave credit to Chief Diji for bringing that board or
Speaker 1: that body together to try to improve the judicial process
Speaker 1: for the benefit of the public, for the benefit of
Speaker 1: what kind of sentences are people really getting and what
Speaker 1: kind of releases and early releases are people really receiving
Speaker 1: and the people in the public have the right for
Speaker 1: transparency on that, and it wasn't received well from the
Speaker 1: inner circles. Got you one thing I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you about, peripherally relevant. I think issue five back in
Speaker 1: the year two thousand, that was an issue that got
Speaker 1: on the ballot where they would remove the chief and
Speaker 1: the assistant chiefs from civil service protection. I was prosecutor
Speaker 1: at the time I worked on the campaign. Anyone who
Speaker 1: spent any time in the system knew that that was
Speaker 1: going to be a disaster. The chief, as I said,
Speaker 1: and the assistant chiefs back then had civil service protection.
Speaker 1: Chief Theji didn't. She's at the whim of politicians I
Speaker 1: just wanted to bring that up to see if any
Speaker 1: you wanted to comment on that, because I hope, I
Speaker 1: hope we see it back on the ballot again.
Speaker 7: I don't, I don't the three of us collectively agree
Speaker 7: with you one hundred percent. The issue five has had
Speaker 7: has its at its time. I don't think it's been successful.
Speaker 7: I think Chief Striker is the last one yet Fellow
Speaker 7: without it, and then you had, you know, three four chiefs,
Speaker 7: what have you.
Speaker 3: I think it's time for City Council to.
Speaker 7: Do what's proper and maybe put it however it takes,
Speaker 7: to put it back on a ballot, referendum, whatever the
Speaker 7: case may be. This is very much a hot topic
Speaker 7: for us and support the fop's desires for that. In fact,
Speaker 7: I think it would just make the department stronger. It
Speaker 7: would make the fire department stronger, whatever you want to say,
Speaker 7: because because when you have one person making a decision
Speaker 7: for such a important aspect of first responders and citizen safety,
Speaker 7: it's not good. So I would say call out City
Speaker 7: Council a little bit to say we need to rethink this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the current political makeup of the city, it
Speaker 1: would be an uphill battle, but I still think it
Speaker 1: could be done if people are educated as to what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: Well, uphill battle is one thing, right and wrongs another.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's absolutely And those that knew knew this was
Speaker 1: going to be a train wreck, and I think it
Speaker 1: just barely passed back then.
Speaker 3: I mean it was really close.
Speaker 1: We got about five more minutes, and I want to
Speaker 1: talk about what you guys want to talk about, So
Speaker 1: you guys can make the closing argument if you.
Speaker 5: Will, Mike and Rick and follow this. But I think again,
Speaker 5: why we're here is not to draw attention to the
Speaker 5: nevils or the thegs beyond chief role, dignity, reputation. This
Speaker 5: is not about monetary This is about the ability to
Speaker 5: leave a thirty five year career with your head held
Speaker 5: high with the facts known. Yep, not speculation, not sour grapes,
Speaker 5: but facts. And why we're here today is present those facts,
Speaker 5: and hopefully the public listening to your program understands, appreciates,
Speaker 5: and accepts those facts as they are valid and we
Speaker 5: have the ability to show support for them. It's reputation, Mike,
Speaker 5: and she deserves better. They stole it from her. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they stole from her the opportunity to enjoy retirement. They
Speaker 5: stole from her the opportunity to spend her days peacefully
Speaker 5: with her grandchildren without this being on her mind and
Speaker 5: in her gut. It's an ebb and flow every day.
Speaker 5: And we will continue to fight on behalf of Terry,
Speaker 5: and we will continue to provide facts and see where
Speaker 5: this goes.
Speaker 1: I think you've done an incredible job so far, and
Speaker 1: I think it's a very important thing. You can even
Speaker 1: boil it down further. I think it's right and wrong.
Speaker 1: You don't do a person like that. You don't do
Speaker 1: a chief of police with all the years of service
Speaker 1: that she has had. You just don't do it, you know,
Speaker 1: because of a political issue to say yes, sorry, chief,
Speaker 1: you got to go, Well why do I have to go?
Speaker 3: Well, we'll figure it out. I mean, it's just not right.
Speaker 7: Everything you have in front of you, and everything we've
Speaker 7: talked about has been shared with plump Street. Whether they're
Speaker 7: reading them or not, I can't answer that. I gotta
Speaker 7: believe they read their emails, so they've got this information,
Speaker 7: and I have to believe the majority of them're center
Speaker 7: going what do we just do?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 8: Am, I I mean closer with sure, there's one thing
Speaker 8: about leadership, right, and Terry's a phenomenal leader, And I'll
Speaker 8: leave it at that.
Speaker 3: You said twelve.
Speaker 1: You know, based upon what I have seen, you know,
Speaker 1: being in the system, I would agree with you wholeheartedly.
Speaker 1: And I really really love it that this family is
Speaker 1: not taking this line down because something should be done
Speaker 1: about it, you know.
Speaker 3: And I know you.
Speaker 1: Guys aren't political, but when the city of Cincinnati becomes
Speaker 1: such that only one party can have any input into anything,
Speaker 1: that's not a good thing anywhere.
Speaker 3: And it wouldn't be a good thing.
Speaker 1: Of his all Republicans too, But law enforcement in this
Speaker 1: city and the Cincinnati Police Department, in my humble opinion,
Speaker 1: is something special, something good that has been recognized throughout
Speaker 1: the years, going all the way back when Stanchrotel was
Speaker 1: on the cover of Life magazine. I was honored to
Speaker 1: be a part of it in a very short period
Speaker 1: of time. But and again it boils down to, in
Speaker 1: my humble opinion, you just can't do.
Speaker 5: People like this, you know, go back to our opening point, Mike,
Speaker 5: based on that statement of Terry's one percent support for
Speaker 5: the CINCINNTI Police Department, the success of the Cincinnati Police
Speaker 5: Department the success of those that are administrative positions. Now, yeah,
Speaker 5: the safety of the community, the mental wellness of the
Speaker 5: members all fall in their hands, and we have one
Speaker 5: hundred percent support and faith in them to do it
Speaker 5: successfully well for.
Speaker 3: Whatever it's worth.
Speaker 1: The circles I travel in, they see this for what
Speaker 1: it is, just a political kind of BS thing. So
Speaker 1: I think you have the public on your side. I
Speaker 1: am so impressed. I drive down the street and I
Speaker 1: see we support Chief Thiji. I never, am my wildest dreams,
Speaker 1: would have thought at chief of police in the city
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati would have to do that. But and the
Speaker 1: T shirts as well. You guys are doing a hell
Speaker 1: of a job with it. I mean that too. And
Speaker 1: I'm not the only one saying that.
Speaker 3: Thank you. It means a lot my pleasure.
Speaker 1: Hey, we got to take a break, but we'll be back.
Speaker 1: We'll be back and we'll start talking about the president's
Speaker 1: news conference, which is scheduled for a lot sven o'clock.
Speaker 3: Mike Allan sat