WEBVTT - Mike Allen Saturday Mid-Day --1/3/26

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday Midday

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<v Speaker 1>and a cold Saturday morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what, you never know what you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get when you wake up in the morning. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always something, sometimes good, sometimes not so good. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this morning was a good one. Woke up to the

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<v Speaker 1>news that none other than Venezuelan dictators strong man is

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<v Speaker 1>picked up. He's Gonzo, no more, no more fooling around.

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<v Speaker 3>With that guy. He's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas Maduro, president strongman, whatever you want to call him.

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<v Speaker 1>He claimed to be I guess president of Venezuela, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was not elected in any kind of election that

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<v Speaker 1>was sanctioned. Strong evidence that he cheated to get there.

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<v Speaker 3>So we got him.

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<v Speaker 1>We got him not only with military force, but law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement personnel.

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<v Speaker 3>We're involved in it as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And at eleven o'clock President Trump is going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a news conference and make a statement. We will be

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<v Speaker 1>covering that as I understand it. But the thing is

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<v Speaker 1>almost never never starts on time, so my guess be

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<v Speaker 1>probably somewhere closer to eleven thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's captured.

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<v Speaker 1>He and his wife, they will both be guests tonight

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<v Speaker 1>at the Federal Crowbar Hotel somewhere in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>courtesy of the United States government, and President Trump made

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<v Speaker 1>a statement on X I guess yeah, X no true

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<v Speaker 1>social I think, And what he said basically was that, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we warned this guy. We told him, we

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<v Speaker 1>told him we're going to come and get him, told

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<v Speaker 1>him to stop doing what he was doing, and he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Captured and flown out of the country. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>large scale strike carried out by the military. Explosions reported

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<v Speaker 1>in Caracas and elsewhere. It was a US military's Delta Force,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course I'm sure you know about them.

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<v Speaker 3>They're an elite special forces unit.

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<v Speaker 1>They carried out the operation to capture at Maduro, and

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<v Speaker 1>in the coming days we will find.

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<v Speaker 3>Out more and more and more about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The strikes follow months of US military built up. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a aircraft carry down there, the Gerald R.

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<v Speaker 3>Ford So and.

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<v Speaker 1>In recent weeks we have seized two oil tankers off

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<v Speaker 1>the Venezuelan coach coast and as you know, launched a

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<v Speaker 1>number of strikes I think it's about thirty on the

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<v Speaker 1>drug boats carrying drugs and what President Trump called the

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<v Speaker 1>dock area.

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<v Speaker 3>Where they load the boats up with drugs. They hit

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<v Speaker 3>that too.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, if you're a mother, father, whatever, a

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<v Speaker 1>family member that has lost someone to drug abuse, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're probably happy this morning. But you got the

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<v Speaker 1>people that are whining and already, and we will talk

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<v Speaker 1>about them in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>When I woke up this morning, it gives me a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of pride in my country. I mean not because

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<v Speaker 1>people died or anything like that, but because when we

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<v Speaker 1>say something in the form of President Trump being the

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<v Speaker 1>United States president, we mean it. And I'll tell you what,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to hand it to that guy, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't like him, of course they never will.

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<v Speaker 3>If he says he's gonna do something, he does it. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>He was indicted to back in March twenty twenty all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of serious strong fellony, drug charges, narco terrorism, other

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of things, and he will now he will now

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<v Speaker 1>stand trial on that. And interestingly enough, Gary Jeff pointed

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<v Speaker 1>this out. It is six years to the day that

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<v Speaker 1>under the leadership of President George H. W. Bush, we

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<v Speaker 1>snatched up Manuel Noriega, same kind of deal drug kingpin,

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<v Speaker 1>got him back here, tried him, he was convicted, convicted,

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<v Speaker 1>locked up here from nineteen ninety to two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I didn't know this. France got him for

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<v Speaker 1>a year twenty ten to twenty eleven. He has returned

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<v Speaker 1>to Panama to serve his sentences for the crimes he

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<v Speaker 1>committed in that country, and he died in prison complications

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<v Speaker 1>from brain surgery. So you know, at the bottom line,

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<v Speaker 1>you can run, but you can't hide. If we have

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<v Speaker 1>strong leadership in the White House, we're gonna get you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get you one way or the other. And

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, you know, it's not as if the

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<v Speaker 1>guy wasn't warned. So for me, I woke up this

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<v Speaker 1>morning heard about that a renewed sense of pride in

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<v Speaker 1>being a citizen of the United States of America. We

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<v Speaker 1>are no longer seen as a pitiful giant, if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen as a country that when we say we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do something, we do it. Now, compare and

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<v Speaker 1>contrast this with the bungled and deadly Afghaan pullout from Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure we all remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was August of two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched that and my jaw drop just aghast.

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<v Speaker 1>It was unbelievable, so chaotic, so bungled, and so deadly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we lost thirteen service members because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a huge embarrassment for the United States

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<v Speaker 1>of America, perhaps the biggest, if not one of the biggest,

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<v Speaker 1>that we have ever had, all because of the commander

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<v Speaker 1>in chief at the time. He was out the lunch,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden. And you know, I'm sorry, I mean, the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to be paying for him for years

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<v Speaker 1>and years to come. And just ask yourself a question too,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what if this or carry out Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have been under either of those two, but just

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<v Speaker 1>say that it was. I mean, Kamala Harris, please spare me.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't going to happen, and thank goodness it didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But you get back to the Afghanistan thing. Thirteen service

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<v Speaker 1>members killed, we left behind. I think the figure was

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<v Speaker 1>about seven or eight billion dollars worth of very very

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<v Speaker 1>complex and useful military gear that apparently a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>it fell into the hands of al Qaeda. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>arming our enemies through our negligence. And then to top

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<v Speaker 1>it all off, Joe Biden classified it as an extraordinary success.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you gotta be kidding me.

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<v Speaker 1>And already, already the boo birds are out, one of

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<v Speaker 1>which is a Republican Senator Mike Lee of Utah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know he's all wound up that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Congress wasn't notified, what's the president's authority? Blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. And there's Democrats saying that now as well. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>just let's think about this for a minute. Congress wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>not if I will first and foremost, they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be. And if they did, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if the president, I don't know how he

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<v Speaker 1>would do it. I guess he'd have to address Congress

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. If he told them, not ask their permission,

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<v Speaker 1>but told them what was going to happen. How long

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that would take to get transmitted to

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<v Speaker 1>Caracas or somewhere else in Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to be kidne me. There's no way, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no way.

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<v Speaker 1>And with respect to his authority to do this, President Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>Article two, Section two clause one, I mean, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>commander in chief, he commands the military, and he is

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<v Speaker 1>well within his power to deploy them for short term,

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<v Speaker 1>limited action. Now, of course, if there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a a prolonged situation, then Congress can say, probably justifiably so,

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<v Speaker 1>that they should have been notified.

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<v Speaker 3>That ain't the case here. So I'm not worried about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Although you know, somebody will probably file suit in some

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<v Speaker 1>federal court because of judge shopping. They may very well

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<v Speaker 1>find an Obama or Biden appointee that will kind of

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<v Speaker 1>substitute their judgment for that of the commander in chief.

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<v Speaker 3>I look for that to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it'll be successful if it's fair, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they'll probably do a deal where well, you know, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to have to return him to Venezuela. And

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<v Speaker 1>I say that kind of tongue in cheek, but not really.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you just don't know anymore. And you have

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<v Speaker 1>so many federal judges, well, so many people that are

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<v Speaker 1>parading around are impersonating. I guess it's the word. Federal

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<v Speaker 1>judges who are nothing more than activist, My goodness. In

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<v Speaker 1>this administration, how often have we seen that? Well, here's

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<v Speaker 1>an example of the after action report, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>From the Democrats. You got Senator Reuben Diego. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what state he's from, but he's a Democrat. Quote,

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<v Speaker 1>this war is illegal. Close quote. Shortly after we launched

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<v Speaker 1>these strikes against Venezuela, he comes out, he wrote on

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<v Speaker 1>x this war is illegal. The senator he isn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>admire him for this. US Marine Corps veteran who was

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<v Speaker 1>deployed in Iraq called it the second unjustified war in

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<v Speaker 1>my lifetime. Again, why can't you just sit back and

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<v Speaker 1>take pride in your country? You know, for those that

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<v Speaker 1>really don't follow it that closely red China was making

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of headway into Venezuela, as was Russia. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Trump recognizes the Monroe doctrine. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>be pre eminent in South America.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, let's start picking on him and backbiting and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else. And one of the good things about this too,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the opposition leader you probably have heard her report,

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<v Speaker 1>Maria Corrina Machado. She's the one I believe that won

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<v Speaker 1>the one the Nobel Peace Prize, and she praised President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump when she accepted it and said that he should

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<v Speaker 1>probably should have gotten it.

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<v Speaker 3>She's already on the air. I've seen her a couple

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<v Speaker 3>times this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you there are a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>on one of my I know, the president is another

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<v Speaker 1>who would love to see her installed as the president

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<v Speaker 1>or the leader whatever they want to call him in Venezuela,

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<v Speaker 1>because that country, which is so rich in oil and

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<v Speaker 1>natural resources and was really an economy in a country

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<v Speaker 1>to be envied not too long ago. It would be

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<v Speaker 1>great if she can be installed somehow as a leader

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<v Speaker 1>of that country. However, I did here this morning coming

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<v Speaker 1>in the vice president of Venezuela, obviously someone that would

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<v Speaker 1>have supported the ousted guy that got out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>He says now that he is the commander in chief.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, Nicholas Maduro's VP says, I'm the man. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and again getting back to the lady who were just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Maria Corona Machado, here's what she said. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think this was yesterday. I think this might

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<v Speaker 1>have been a couple of weeks ago. We the Venezuela

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<v Speaker 1>and people are very grateful to him, meaning the president

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<v Speaker 1>and his administration, because I believe he is a champion

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<v Speaker 1>of freedom in this hemisphere. See that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>The hemisphere is important to us. Biden just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>let it go by the wayside, but President Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>re establishing the American presence in that area. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>they hit him pretty hard. According to CBS, they able

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<v Speaker 1>to Grain of Salt, Caracas military bases, and Major Venezuela

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<v Speaker 1>in port A, Major Venezuelan port was hit by the

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<v Speaker 1>US air strikes. That's what the political opposition says, some

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<v Speaker 1>guy named David Smolonsky. He's a spokesman for opposition leader

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the good One. Maria Karina Machado told CBS News

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<v Speaker 1>the following locations were among those that were hit. Fueraday

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<v Speaker 1>Tijuana main artillery base in Caracas, La Carlata main air

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<v Speaker 1>base in Caracas, El Vulcan Signal antenna post, and Laguira Port,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a seaport on the Caribbean coast. So they

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<v Speaker 1>hit him pretty hard. And you know, if it hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>started already, what you're going to be hearing is, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they got the dictator out, but why did

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<v Speaker 1>you have to hit all those ports?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>The President's response to that will be, but I am

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<v Speaker 1>certain whatever it is, it will be justified. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it all boils down to this you know, I'm an attorney,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously I care about the law and the proper

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<v Speaker 1>application of the law. But why should I or any

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<v Speaker 1>other American citizen really care if we hit all of

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<v Speaker 1>these places and there was a military or other reason

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<v Speaker 1>for it, which at eleven o'clock, I suppose the President's going.

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<v Speaker 3>To lay that out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, immediately you got the ones that are saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he can't do this, he's violating the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up this morning, I turned on the TV,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it, and it made me more proud than

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<v Speaker 1>there already am to be an American. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not worried about what these other people say. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can bet your bottom dollar probably by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day or within a couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's gonna file suits saying he doesn't have the authority

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. Let's send Ma Duro back, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because of it. I guess we'll see. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens on that. But again, the way I

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<v Speaker 1>look at it, and I think probably the way a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you look at it, is it's pride in

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<v Speaker 1>our country.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we are important.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, We're not a laughing stock after Afghanistan, we were.

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<v Speaker 1>That was an absolute disaster. To watch that. It made

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<v Speaker 1>me sick and there was no reason whatsoever for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And Biden at the time said, well, you know, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get out, and he did. Trump was upfront

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<v Speaker 1>about that during the campaign, but not like that. There

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<v Speaker 1>is no way under President Trump that that would have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't have They would have pulled out. They would

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<v Speaker 1>have done it in a responsible way where American service

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<v Speaker 1>members would not have been killed, and where we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have left behind seven eight billion dollars of military equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all a matter of how you do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, poor Joe, he was out of it and

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<v Speaker 1>he probably didn't know what the.

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<v Speaker 3>Heck he was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, you know, I don't say that lightly, I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't. I have been for years very critical of

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Carter. His presidency was pretty much a disaster. But

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<v Speaker 1>he was a moral man and he was a man

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<v Speaker 1>who had his wits about him. And if you know

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<v Speaker 1>what hit the fan in any kind of real jam

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<v Speaker 1>that the United States got in militarily, I think he

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<v Speaker 1>would have wrote Risen to the occasion, I do. Thankfully

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't happen so we didn't have to see. But

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<v Speaker 1>what Joe Biden or even worse, Kamala Harris. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>can you imagine that, Kamala Harris Commander in chief of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States Military. It just it scares you to

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<v Speaker 1>even think about it. And you know, we didn't really

0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.800
<v Speaker 1>come close to having that, but we could have.

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<v Speaker 3>We could have.

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<v Speaker 1>So as the day unfolds and as the President has

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<v Speaker 1>his news conference at eleven o'clock at least scheduled, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get a lot of particulars on this. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, I think it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we are re establishing ourselves in that hemisphere again.

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<v Speaker 1>If you if you don't know anything about it, just

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<v Speaker 1>read up on it. Red China, Communists, China and Russia

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<v Speaker 1>and others have really tried to exert influence down there

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<v Speaker 1>and we can't have it. It sounds like that's over

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<v Speaker 1>as far as Venezuela goes, but of course we'll keep

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<v Speaker 1>an eye on it. Hey, as always, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear what you have to think about this. I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>Today seven for nine, seven, one, eight hundred, the big

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<v Speaker 1>one are the numbers Mike Allen Saturday. Hey, we're back

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<v Speaker 1>my call on Saturday midday. Just watching some coverage on

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<v Speaker 1>Fox about this. Uh, actually trying to get it turned

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<v Speaker 1>down a little bit so I can speak with you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump called Fox and Friends this morning, just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit ago. I got to hear the tail end

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but they're talking about what he said. I

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of want to give you an update. Still

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<v Speaker 1>having that press conference, and we'll get to the phones

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<v Speaker 1>here writer if I do this. Still going to have

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<v Speaker 1>the press conference at at eleven, but again it's always late.

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<v Speaker 1>He did confirm that one helicopter did get hit. There

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<v Speaker 1>were injuries, no deaths. He came back, he said, a

0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:55.359
<v Speaker 1>couple of guys were hit, but they're gonna make it

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<v Speaker 1>so don't know the extent of that yet. Again, no

0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:04.359
<v Speaker 1>one passed away, but at least one, presumably soldier Army

0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:09.480
<v Speaker 1>member Trow who's flying a helicopter, got hit, he confirmed.

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<v Speaker 1>The President confirmed no retaliatory firepower whatsoever from Venezuela. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't respond either they didn't think it was a good

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<v Speaker 1>idea or they just didn't know how to, but no

0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:28.400
<v Speaker 1>retaliatory firepower. President said that Maduro and his wife were

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<v Speaker 1>taken from a safe house in Caracas where they were

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<v Speaker 1>in this safe house apparently, and the President said it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a fortress, all kinds of metal doors and everything

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but he said that he got bum rushed.

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<v Speaker 1>Maduro did buy these soldiers so fast that he got him.

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<v Speaker 1>He also said to that the military members in doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a blow torch, but they didn't need They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't need it because they were able to get to him.

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<v Speaker 3>He also said that he watched it live.

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<v Speaker 1>The President watched it live, and I'll tell you what,

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<v Speaker 1>with technology the way it is today, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not even close.

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<v Speaker 1>We have the premiere military in the world. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not even close. The things that they can do,

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<v Speaker 1>these men and women, and how they execute it, and

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<v Speaker 1>the bravery within which they executed it is probably stronger

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<v Speaker 1>than our country has ever had, he confirmed. The president

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed that this was supposed to happen four days ago

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<v Speaker 1>on New Year's Eve, but the weather wasn't cooperating, so

0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.919
<v Speaker 1>they postponed it. Apparently, when they launched it yesterday, the

0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.760
<v Speaker 1>weather was perfect, so they had no problems with that

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<v Speaker 1>and made the point too, if you are a drug

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<v Speaker 1>trafficker and you are indicted by the United States, We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get you. And man, well, Noriega is a

0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:03.640
<v Speaker 1>per example of that. Actually that was a Senator Tom Cotton,

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<v Speaker 1>who's on now, who said that. And another thing Senator

0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:10.879
<v Speaker 1>Cotton said, They asked him, well, Senator, was Congress notified.

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<v Speaker 1>He kind of chuckled a little bit, said well no,

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<v Speaker 1>because if they would have been, it would have leaked

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<v Speaker 1>within minutes. So anyway, little bit more info we have

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<v Speaker 1>again the press conference scheduled for eleven. Hey, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to the phones, like I promised. Let's talk to Barry

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<v Speaker 1>in Miamisburg. Hey, how you doing Barry?

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<v Speaker 4>Heang, Apparently the world is a better day to today. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>because the President.

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<v Speaker 2>No kidding, I mean absolutely, I mean just wow, apparently

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<v Speaker 2>that was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it'll play out in the coming days.

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<v Speaker 1>But I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me say something to the critics. Back when I

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<v Speaker 2>was in high school, there was a series of movies

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<v Speaker 2>and a book entitled The Godfather. Yeah, do you remember

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<v Speaker 2>this book?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was a.

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<v Speaker 4>Really good book.

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<v Speaker 2>If the Feds had swooped in to arrest the Godfather

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<v Speaker 2>do you think that he would be the only person

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<v Speaker 2>they arrested that day, or do you think they're taking

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the organization.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably some underlings from the organization. And that's a really

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<v Speaker 1>good point that you're making.

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<v Speaker 3>Berry. Haven't heard anything about any other.

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<v Speaker 1>Co defendants where they may be or you know, whether

0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.280
<v Speaker 1>they played it on getting them or not. But they

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<v Speaker 1>got the big fish, and that's the one you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get first.

0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.560
<v Speaker 2>They got the big fish. And apparently they hit some

0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:46.320
<v Speaker 2>military targets. We don't know who's ryet, right, but it's

0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:47.200
<v Speaker 2>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, I woke up, I watched this

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<v Speaker 1>and once again, I mean, I'm always proud to be

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<v Speaker 1>an American, but sometimes it just gets reinforced and this

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<v Speaker 1>was one of them. And you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just to get it down to its most basic level,

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<v Speaker 1>what it means is don't screw with the United States

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<v Speaker 1>of America. And when the President of the United States

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<v Speaker 1>of America, no matter who he or she may be,

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<v Speaker 1>says they are going to do something like that, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. And you need to You if you're

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<v Speaker 1>on the other end of it, like Maduro, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>know he's gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And for years, for years, we didn't have that.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>My other comment is during COVID, drugs from Venezuela killed

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<v Speaker 2>more people in the United States than COVID did.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 2>At least in this area. Somebody who talks to the

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<v Speaker 2>corner as they're picking up bodies from the hospital, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't doubt it. I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone involved in the criminal justice system in any way,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you're an er, nurse or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>knows what drugs are doing to our country and specifically

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<v Speaker 1>to our youth.

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<v Speaker 3>I've mentioned this before.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of years ago, I had three of my

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:20.400
<v Speaker 1>clients overdose and die that was on fentanyl.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, these weren't sleazy drug dealers.

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<v Speaker 1>These were people, middle class people, one of them frankly

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<v Speaker 1>upper middle class, that got addicted to this stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's important, It's very important. And Trump recognizes this as

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<v Speaker 1>early as twenty fifteen when he's getting ready to run

0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 1>the last time, he said exactly what I just said.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It is incumbent upon us, as the government, military, law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement in the United States to do what we can

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and by golly.

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<v Speaker 3>He did it in a more power to Trumps today. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, but he's going to catch some crap. But

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I kind of think I think he revels in it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I love that. I love how he takes

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 1>these people on. I love how he takes the media on.

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll bet you he's got any number of his cabinet

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>out tomorrow defending this. And you know, if some reporter

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 1>says something or ask a question that is inappropriate, they'll

0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:24.879
<v Speaker 1>get right in their face. That's something relatively new. I

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:26.199
<v Speaker 1>absolutely love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, have a nice day and be careful out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Barry, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see in the coming days,

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you know how this thing plays out. But again, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much of a script, probably about three quarters of it.

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:45.320
<v Speaker 3>You can write yourself. You know, some member of.

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Congress or someone else is going to file suit somewhere

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to say this is horrible, it shouldn't have happened, blah

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:55.200
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. Now we better ship the Dua back with

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Maduro back, which is preposterous. But I don't put anything

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.679
<v Speaker 1>past these peo. I don't put it and they'll have

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 1>their demonstrations because everything is performative on the left, never substanative.

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.719
<v Speaker 1>It's all performative. But we'll see in the coming days. Hey,

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>let's talk to Ransom up in Columbus. Hey, Ransom, how

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you doing.

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<v Speaker 4>I am proud to be an American today just like you.

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 3>Damn stream, and I'm.

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 6>Very proud of you every week to get out here

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 6>and deal with the You know, some people that still

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 6>believe in the country and a lot of them that

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:32.399
<v Speaker 6>don't believe in the country.

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<v Speaker 4>You and I have talked about this many times, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna keep hammering this. Proverbs twenty nine to two

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 4>says when the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice,

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 4>and when the unrighteous are in an authority, the people mourn.

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 4>And the reason that the country's coming back. And I

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 4>have some good news for all your listeners, okay, whether

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:58.679
<v Speaker 4>whether they're Christians or not. It appears that when Charlie

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:03.680
<v Speaker 4>Kirk was assassin, God decided he was going to start

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 4>a waking up our country and intervening. If you want

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 4>to check it out on the internet, there are more

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 4>There are more young people reading their Bible and going

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 4>to church and Bible sales are up maybe about sixty

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 4>percent from last year. Now, go, God's do something with

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 4>the next generation. But we are the generation that needs

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 4>to mentor these kids, and we and the thing that

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 4>we need to do. We got a midterm coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to hold these politicians on the local, state,

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 4>and federal level accountable to the people who have the authority,

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:45.679
<v Speaker 4>who pay all the bills. And I know you're going

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:47.920
<v Speaker 4>to be hammering this, but while I'm just going to

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 4>say this publicly to you, I've been talking to you

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 4>for about a year or so about the seven Mountains

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<v Speaker 4>of influence and they're gatekeepers, that are and the government,

0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:01.360
<v Speaker 4>and the government mountain has been dominating our entire country

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<v Speaker 4>for about the last twenty years. So at some point

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<v Speaker 4>I would like to get on the air with you

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:09.720
<v Speaker 4>explain to your people what the seven mountains really are

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 4>and how on the local, state and national level we

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 4>can turn this thing around and watch God get what

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:22.120
<v Speaker 4>he wants and then mutch our country turn around and

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 4>we're on our way right now. God's doing something. And

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 4>I appreciate you every Saturday for being open and allowing

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 4>the people to speak their mind and their beliefs.

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 1>Thank you mich I appreciate that. Those are kind words.

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate it, you know, I think it's important

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to do that. I mean, I don't know. I grew

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 1>up at a time when you're pretty much automatically proud

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to be an American. I mean, nobody had to tell

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.439
<v Speaker 1>you that. You didn't have to think about it. You know,

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm in first and second grade, and I knew we're

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 1>in the best country in the world.

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:58.120
<v Speaker 3>Even at that young age.

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I knew there were problems, but hey, we're American citizens

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and that means something. And boy, you know, I guess

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 1>coming with with the Vietnam War, the Civil rights movement,

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>which that needed to be done, it did, and for

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>those there are still a few I guess around that

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>think that that was all bad.

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't.

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Those things had to happen, but we still we still

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>came out of it. I believe, the strongest country in

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>the world, and that kind of lagged for a while,

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's coming back. But you know what, it is

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:35.199
<v Speaker 1>so fragile. It is so fragile. That's why it's so

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>important to boil this these platitudes down to practicality. It's

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>critical that we keep the house and the Senate. We

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 1>have to if we don't. Donald J. Trump is a

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>lame duck. I mean technically he is anyway, but and

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, if I know him, he'll still find a

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>way to get things done. I mean he's already cranked

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>out any number of executive orders. But that's why in

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the MAGA people we talked about this. I had Alex

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>chan to feel you on earlier in the week, I

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 1>was in for slowany the magabase they don't get out

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and vote if Trump ain't on the ballot, and man,

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you, he's just snatched right on that. Alex

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 1>did the chair of the Ohio GOP and said, we

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 1>are ready for that, Mike. We're working on that. We

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>understand that that's a problem. And you know, the people

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>that support Trump ought to be able to know that

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 1>if you don't put people in there that support him,

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 1>he's still gonna do what he's gonna do. But you

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>just need you need to have that base in there.

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, again, a great day to be an American.

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>As I said, no casualties with respect to deaths. A

0:29:54.640 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>couple of injuries. Apparently one was somewhat bad. It's kind

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>of a murky, but they think that he's going to

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.959
<v Speaker 1>make it, so we shall see. But I'm looking forward

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to seeing just when they lay this out, the precision

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>of this military strike, it is. It's unbelievable what the

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>United States military can do these days. And again, no

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>deaths out of this thing from the United States of America,

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and more oftener than not. When we do something, we're

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>able to do it with no or very little deaths, wounds,

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>wounded people, something like that, things like that. But it's

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>really amazing. And you know, Trump just did a thing.

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Some criticized him for it. The seventeen seventy six I

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>guess it was New Year's Day or close to it.

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>And you probably already know this, but any service member soldier, sailor, marine,

0:30:56.040 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>coast guardsman, airmen, air woman, they got one seven hundred

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and seventy six dollars as a Christmas bonus from the

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>President of the United States and obviously from the taxpayers.

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>And while some grumbled, Hey give them anything they need

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>because they're in there doing that job and they should

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>be recognized. And that's not always the way it was.

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not a history teacher, but I'm sure

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>y'all know that in the Vietnam War that didn't happen

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>that way. When those young men came home, they weren't

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>allowed to wear their uniform because they were afraid that

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>somebody would give them some grief. Not that they couldn't

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 1>very easily handle that if that's what they were told

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.479
<v Speaker 1>to do. But it wasn't that way forever, but it

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>is now. It is now. You know, I spent ten

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 1>years in the Army Reserve, the jag Corps. Never got

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>anywhere close to any combat zone anything like that. And

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, people they'll ask you, are you a veteran,

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and I said, well, yeah, technically reserve, And I'm proud

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>of my service.

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 3>We did a lot of things.

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>We did these what they call pre mobilization bree things

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>where the people that were going over they're the soldiers

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that were going to the combat zones. We did their wills,

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 1>we did powers of attorney, and again, I'm proud of

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>that service. But I wasn't anywhere close to it. And

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>there's been a couple of times too restaurants where they've

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>wanted to give me a break on it. I just

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>in good conscience, I couldn't take it because I believe me.

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't mind getting something for nothing, but it's just,

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think it's right to do that

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>when you had people that were really, really in the

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 1>middle of that. I guess that's just a long way

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>of saying that, Well, I'll tell you, we cannot do

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>enough for these people. We just can't. We're gonna have

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>to break it a minute. But I just wanted to

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of go over what the president said again on Fox.

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>He'll be speaking around eleven. One helicopter did get hit, injuries,

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>but no deaths. The helicopter was able to land. I

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>suppose back on the USS gerald Ford, the aircraft carrier

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 1>that's close to Venezuela. No retaliatory firepower from Venezuela. Maduro

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>and his wife, they were taken from a safe house

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>in Caracas and flown to Iwjima. That's the name that

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>should be familiar to all of us. Were United States

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Marine Corps, and I think there was some army too,

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>just so bravely fought there against overwhelming Japanese forces. But

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that's where they were flown. The president said that he

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>was in a safe house. He was behind a bunch

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>of metal doors. They knew this was coming. They knew

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>this was coming. They got there, the service members got there,

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>They had a blow torch ready to blow torch the

0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>hell out of that door.

0:33:58.520 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 3>They didn't need it.

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>They got him, They got him, and again they now,

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I believe, are flown to Evejima, probably waiting to go

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>back to the United States. And my guess is sometime

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>this week, perhaps maybe even as early as Monday, they well,

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she's charged, but he will be

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>arraigned before a federal judge somewhere. My guess is it

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>would probably be the DC District. And man, there are

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>some judges that I would describe as activist masquerading as

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>federal judges.

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 3>So we'll see what happens. But he's not.

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>There is no way on God's green Earth that he's

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 1>going to get a bond. He will be held with

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>no bond. Trump said that he watched it live. I mean,

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 1>that's the technology we have now. He watched the whole

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 1>thing go down live. Finally, he said it was supposed

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>to happen four days ago New Year's Eve, but the

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 1>weather prevented that. The way or weather wasn't good. He

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>said it was great yesterday. So anyway, we have to

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>take a break, but we're going to change gears a

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit.

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 3>When we get back.

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:12.320
<v Speaker 1>We are going to be talking to live in studio

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Russ Neville, who I believe is the brother of the

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>chief of Police Chief Fiji and the Neville family, and

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll let him explain it that just there is no

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:27.439
<v Speaker 1>more prominent law enforcement family in these parts than them.

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>They're not taking this thing sitting down at all, and

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we're going to talk to them about it

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>when we get back. Mike Allen's seven hundred WLW oh

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Now Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday midday,

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be keeping an eye on what's going

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>on with the situation with the president and the strike

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>and the capture of the dictator in Venezuela.

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 3>We'll keep an eye on that. He says anything.

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.800
<v Speaker 1>He's supposed to address the nation through a press conference

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>on at eleven o'clock, but those things never start in time.

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 1>But in the meantime, something else on a local level,

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>very very important in my humble opinion and I think others.

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 1>And that's the situation and what's going on with Cincinnati

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:26.839
<v Speaker 1>Police Chief Teresa Fiji. It's the city. It's obvious they

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 1>want to get rid of her. They don't know why, though,

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 1>and they hired a law firm, and I'm not going

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 1>to say anything bad about Frost Brown Todd because it

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>is a good law firm. I guess they weren't able

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>to come up with the reasons, so they got extended

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>into February. I mean, it's kind of common sense. That

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't look good. It doesn't make any sense. She

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>has an outstanding record as police chief in many years

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:58.720
<v Speaker 1>before that as a police officer, and she's got family

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 1>members here to talk about it. I'll say one thing,

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll shut up and I'll let them talk. This family

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>is not taking this sitting down, and I don't blame

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>one bit because.

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 3>It's not right. Let's start out. I have three.

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Just introduce yourselves and we'll go from there. I'm Russ Neville,

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Terry's brother.

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 5>Thirty four years with the CINCINNT Police Department and left

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 5>in twenty twenty one, and up to the point of

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 5>these circumstances, enjoyed my retirement.

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 7>Rick Nevill Terry's brother retired thirty one and a half

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 7>years with hamilin Kay Sheriff's Department.

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Kind of like Russ.

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 7>Upon retirement, I kind of hung up the uniform and

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 7>went under a rock, if you will, until this incident.

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 3>Sure, I get that.

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 8>Mike Neville the third brother, and I retired in twenty

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 8>nineteen with a little over thirty three years.

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 3>In law enforcement.

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow, and you count it all up, you guys. And

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 1>I know you guys are modest, but I think I

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:55.839
<v Speaker 1>think the public needs to know this. You've counted up

0:37:56.200 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>and adding in your father's time, Gary, who was a

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>captain District III, I remember when I was a lowly

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 1>police cadet. I think I told you guys this. You know,

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>the police catch just probably they were just, I don't

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>want to say, kicked around, but not always. It was like, hey, cadet,

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 1>go get this. Your father wasn't like that. I rode

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot up there, and hey, how are you doing?

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, what's going on in your life? That's something

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 1>that you never forget anyway. I just wanted to tell you,

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>thank you, Russ. Why don't you start off, tell us

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>what's going on, what you're doing? As I just said,

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>you guys are not taking this lying down, So why

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>don't you kick it?

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:38.919
<v Speaker 3>Off here Mike.

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 5>First of all, thank you very much for the opportunity

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 5>just to speak on behalf of Terry.

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 3>My pleasure.

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:46.360
<v Speaker 5>I say it each time I have an opportunity to speak.

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 5>This is not about a legacy element with the devils,

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 5>although it's appreciated the comments. This is about support for

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 5>Terry at a time of unfair and inappropriate treatment. But

0:38:58.040 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 5>before we even get into that, I would like to

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 5>extent I spoke to Terry just before coming in the

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 5>studio and she asked that I share her one support

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 5>for the Sincint Police Department, for the members of the

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:13.400
<v Speaker 5>department and for those in the administrative positions of the department,

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 5>because she understands the operation of the Sinceint Police Department

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 5>needs to continue forward and needs to continue forward successfully,

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 5>and it needs to provide the support for the communities

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 5>that are out there that need So she asked that

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 5>I share that, and I want to make sure we

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 5>get that in you.

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Know what I mean.

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Those that know the situation, I think realize that, but

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't, and I think that was

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 1>good that you let them know that.

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 3>This chief of police.

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 1>How long was she chief by the way, or is

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>she chieved so far, well, she's.

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Under administrative suspect she continues to be chief. But that's

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 3>what I mean.

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's been about three years, okay, an outstanding

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>record in a relatively short period of time.

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 3>Too.

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's important that the public know about that,

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 1>know what she has done as police chief. You know,

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:04.400
<v Speaker 1>it seems to me policing and law enforcement has just

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>changed so much over the years, and you got to

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 1>stay on top of all kinds of different things. Technology

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 1>being one one of the things that I'm impressed with,

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:18.359
<v Speaker 1>and I've talked to Ken Kober about this and other

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>cops too, is the whole situation with the law enforcement

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 1>use of drones. And as I understand it, that was

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Chief Fiji's thing. She's the one that kind of got

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 1>that going.

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 5>She is the one that got to go in tell

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:36.279
<v Speaker 5>us about that again, Terry would be the first to

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:39.359
<v Speaker 5>say that while she in that position of chief, would

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 5>be supportive and get those things done.

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 3>She knows it takes a team of people, so.

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 5>All the personnel that implemented it under her guidance are

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:50.880
<v Speaker 5>again appreciated by her. It's not just a new gadget's

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 5>a fundamental shift. And how it keeps officers in our

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:57.720
<v Speaker 5>community safe shift. CHIEFDG. Champion, she navigated through the complex

0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:00.760
<v Speaker 5>regulations and successfully lost just months before or her removal.

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 3>It's a drone program. The concept is simple, Mike.

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 5>When a nine one one call comes in, whether it's

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:09.720
<v Speaker 5>reporting the shooting, burglary, progress, missing child, a drone piloted

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 5>by Cincinnati Police officers immediately dispatched from a roofed up

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 5>docking station. Because it flies to crow flies, it often

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.879
<v Speaker 5>arives in the scene before patrol car. It's a technology

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 5>and a tool that will continue to grow and continue

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 5>to enhance and continue to improve the police services while

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 5>minimizing or reducing the amount of law enforcement time it

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:33.320
<v Speaker 5>takes to arrive and conduct what businesses, which then allows

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.280
<v Speaker 5>for officers to be in the areas of assignment more longer,

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 5>more frequently, and quicker.

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 3>It's a technology.

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:42.400
<v Speaker 5>It's an awesome technology, and it came under the guidance

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 5>of cheap DJ right. And the point of that, Mike

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 5>and I could read an entire article on it, but

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 5>that's the gist of it, and we can get deeper.

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 5>The point of this is we're here today to speak

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 5>fact verse fiction. You know the facts are there are

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 5>seven eighty nine successful leadership items that we have authored

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 5>and we have placed on these support Chief DG Facebook page,

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 5>and that you've been kind enough to allow us to

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:11.280
<v Speaker 5>discuss deeper today as opposed to the mythical effective narrative

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 5>the city administration has placed on terror.

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 1>And still looking to find a quote reason unquote to

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>terminate her, which is just I've already said my piece

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 1>on that.

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Now You're percent right.

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:28.319
<v Speaker 5>But you know, the drone, the technology, the availability of resources.

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 5>She is not only open to them, she aggresses aggressively

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 5>pursued them. She aggressively identifies funding for them. She aggressively

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:38.839
<v Speaker 5>identifies the appropriate team to get them, implement and get

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 5>them out there and get them where they're beneficial.

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 3>That is one.

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 5>And I'll just go down if I could mic real

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 5>quick on just a couple others, and then we can go.

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Deeper on each of them.

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:48.359
<v Speaker 1>But on the drones, I mean, I want to make

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.919
<v Speaker 1>this point. I've had Ken Cobra on. I know I've

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 1>had others on too. CPD is a model for other

0:42:56.360 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>police departments across the country for these drone Am I

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:02.239
<v Speaker 1>right about that?

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure I am.

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 5>You're right, Yeah, Mike, it's it's a national model, it's active,

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:12.799
<v Speaker 5>and it's beneficial. And I'll say it again, it came

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 5>under the guidance, leadership, management and oversight of Cheap DG

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 5>during her tenure. What it's about officer safety and citizen safety,

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:20.719
<v Speaker 5>is it not?

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean both. You look at certain.

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 5>Calls for service, such as shots fired, you get a

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 5>drone there quicker than a patrol officer would typically arrive.

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:32.399
<v Speaker 3>You get that bird's eye view.

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 5>You have tracking mechanisms, you have viewing mechanisms, you have

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 5>communications mechanisms. So those officers that then are responding can

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 5>respond in a safer and to some degree even a

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:45.760
<v Speaker 5>quicker because they know exactly what route to take, exactly

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 5>what path to take. They identify who the potential victims are,

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 5>they identify who the potential suspects are, and it allows

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 5>for a safer approach, a safer resolution, and a quicker resolution.

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:00.319
<v Speaker 1>I get it. And you know, you guys all been

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 1>police officers for so long. I would think that if

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 1>you're a police officer responding to a call, a pretty

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:12.360
<v Speaker 1>serious call, kind of nice to know what you're going into.

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:17.359
<v Speaker 5>And the drone provides that. It's unfathomable to me. Yeah,

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 5>I mean the fact that I'm not into technology, and

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 5>thank goodness, Terry and others within the department now are

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 5>they can grow these tools and take make the benefits

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 5>of the tools, or use the tools to benefit operations.

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:32.439
<v Speaker 7>I got to believe that this system will morph into

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 7>many more systems throughout Hamilton County.

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:37.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and beyond. You know, tristate so designer standard.

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 1>A lot of departments all over the country are contacting

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>CPD because they're a leader in it, and they're a

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>leader in it for a reason, and that is our

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 1>police chief in my humble opinion. Another thing, and you

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 1>guys provided me with this and these are all so

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 1>well written and so accurate.

0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.319
<v Speaker 3>The range, the target range doesn't.

0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Sound like a sexy issue, doesn't sound like something that's

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 1>that big of a deal. But I mean, going back

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:06.880
<v Speaker 1>to the Dark Ages a short period of time I

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.839
<v Speaker 1>was on it was kind of a hot potato back then,

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and it just kind of sat. And there has been

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 1>reporting on this, but tell us how cheap Fiji kind

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 1>of finally solved this nagging problem after years and years

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and years.

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:27.759
<v Speaker 5>She took ownership of it. Mike, it was neglected for

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 5>over twenty years. Residents and community reps from Lincoln Heights, Woodlawn,

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:34.479
<v Speaker 5>Evendale complained to the city administration about the target range

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:37.880
<v Speaker 5>located in Evendale. Some of the catarrans identify were trauma,

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 5>mental health effects on children, physical health impacts from consistent

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:45.360
<v Speaker 5>high decibel fire gunfire, and confusion acts about whether sounds

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:49.799
<v Speaker 5>were from range or actual gunfire. While no other administration

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 5>had the forethought or vision or the benefit guarded from

0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 5>relocating the target range, sheep Terry did. She had to

0:45:56.640 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 5>work ethic, leadership, traits, comprehension and long term benefit, and

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 5>the ability to bring a state, county and local partners

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 5>together for funding input to accomplish the dawning task is

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:10.479
<v Speaker 5>through numerous tumultuous meetings. I had talked to her while

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.839
<v Speaker 5>this process was. It went on for years, well involving her.

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't as young as that when she took the

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 5>steps to achieve it. They were briefer, but yes, it

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:24.400
<v Speaker 5>was years and years in the coming. The funding was

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:27.399
<v Speaker 5>secure and the properties identified, you know, partnerships it took

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 5>to to provide it. It came about and now there's

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 5>a new state of the art target range. Which is

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.359
<v Speaker 5>actually a regional safety complex when you think about it,

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 5>is other pds are going to use it too, right, Yes,

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:40.759
<v Speaker 5>it's in partnership with Cincinnati and Hamilon County. Obviously those

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:43.759
<v Speaker 5>other agencies that fall under the umbrella of that will

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:45.719
<v Speaker 5>be able to get full benefit from it as well.

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you know the funding source of the project.

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 5>You know, there's various funding sources that came in and

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 5>it took numerous meetings, numerous, oh I can imagine. But

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:58.360
<v Speaker 5>with that said, all came about under Cheap DG's tenure.

0:46:58.800 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 5>The Target Range not on Miami River Road, officially opened

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 5>in October of twenty four, you know, and I apologize.

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 5>It was begun in October twenty four, projected for completion

0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 5>in twenty six. So during her you know, speaking on

0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 5>the range which I used every year with the Sheriff's department,

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 5>the water system was atrocious down there, and that was

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.479
<v Speaker 5>another concern that the Terry head quite a bit going

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 5>into there was the water system, and that in fact

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 5>was adamant that it was city water. What have you

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 5>to for the troops for safety mechanism, you know, for

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:39.239
<v Speaker 5>for health, for drinking the water. So that was a

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:41.360
<v Speaker 5>big deal to her before she would sign any paperwork

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:43.160
<v Speaker 5>in that I mean a really big deal deal.

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:46.319
<v Speaker 1>And I know and Russ mentioned it a big deal

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 1>for the neighboring people too. And again, that issue has

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 1>been around, even going back to the seventies when I

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 1>was on So you.

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 5>Think about it, Mike, in two and a half, three

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 5>years just on that topic alone and enhanced the lives

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 5>of several communities on the border of Cincinnati. Right, improves

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 5>the equality of training obtained by law enforcement throughout Hamilton County,

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 5>and obviously that then provides a better service to the

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:19.839
<v Speaker 5>communities that are served. In two and a half years, Mike,

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 5>she took one topic such as this that had been

0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:30.680
<v Speaker 5>lamiting for twenty plus minutes, and she saw the vision,

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:33.479
<v Speaker 5>she saw the benefits, she saw the goal, she saw

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 5>where it could be, and she achieved it.

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:37.080
<v Speaker 3>And I go back to.

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 5>Effective leadership versus mythical ineffective leadership. Right, we speak facts,

0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:48.280
<v Speaker 5>they speak subjectivity.

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, and you're getting your message out and I'm happy

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of that. One of the things

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 1>in policing today, and I'm sure you guys know, is

0:48:56.400 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 1>retention and recruiting. I was talking at ken cole Or

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 1>not too long ago, told me, I guess the CPD

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 1>had authorization and money for a class. I think, he said,

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I think thirty. But they haven't started the class yet

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:17.359
<v Speaker 1>because they can't find thirty people, which is and you

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:21.319
<v Speaker 1>guys are probably way, not way a little bit behind you.

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 1>But I remember taking that test and we hadn't take

0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>it twice because we got laid off. At the convention center.

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:33.240
<v Speaker 1>There were two three thousand people there. It just amazes

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 1>me how that has changed in a relatively short period

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 1>of time. It's a real challenge now for departments to

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 1>find people that want to do the job. So whoever

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:48.880
<v Speaker 1>wants to speak to that, I think it's really important.

0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Mike, I will.

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 8>This issue was growing for some time the police departments

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:59.080
<v Speaker 8>kind of aging out right. Retirements were coming, and along

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 8>those same lines retirements coming, you had a bit of

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:06.920
<v Speaker 8>anti police of sorts through It was building throughout the country, right,

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:10.360
<v Speaker 8>So this taste of wanting to be an officer like

0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 8>any of us three including yourself before us, that flavor

0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:19.760
<v Speaker 8>started to fade. And when you don't have the bodies coming,

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 8>but yet you have the bodies leaving, that leaves you

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:25.759
<v Speaker 8>short and there's an ill effect in that, and there's

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 8>a variety of ill effects, one of them being you

0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:31.360
<v Speaker 8>can't always do what you want to do as a

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 8>police department because you don't have the bodies. You start

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 8>taking away from some things or forcing things into officers'

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 8>hands that they didn't necessarily do years ago. So from

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:47.920
<v Speaker 8>an officer standpoint, that time off a little bit of

0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:51.680
<v Speaker 8>a mandatory overtime. All of those ill effects start leaving

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:53.640
<v Speaker 8>a bad taste in their mouths, and those bad tastes

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:54.880
<v Speaker 8>make it to their own residence.

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:55.200
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 8>So Terry had this that approached her and she had

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 8>to encounter in the way of bringing some light to it.

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 8>So the one thing she started with is an enhancement,

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:09.480
<v Speaker 8>not new enhancement, of a wellness project or wellness thought

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:12.359
<v Speaker 8>for the officers. She knew what they were going through.

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:16.680
<v Speaker 8>So that's something that she took with live fingers into

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:20.600
<v Speaker 8>her decision and leadership, if I may, well. The other piece,

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 8>Mike is you know the way you get retention, the

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:27.239
<v Speaker 8>way you bring people in, because you can't change the

0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:30.840
<v Speaker 8>thought around the country overnight on police work, you start

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:33.560
<v Speaker 8>compensating for what it is that they're going to encounter, right,

0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:37.080
<v Speaker 8>so she really took a bit of a leadership role,

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:39.920
<v Speaker 8>if I may, to keep going in the contract, and

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 8>she sits on the city side some of that, but

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:45.960
<v Speaker 8>she also tasted and understood the officer side, so she

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:49.239
<v Speaker 8>was able to kind of financially enhance what it is

0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:53.279
<v Speaker 8>an officer is presented financially to come on, because you

0:51:53.400 --> 0:51:56.480
<v Speaker 8>need to really bring people's attention to the police department

0:51:56.960 --> 0:52:00.439
<v Speaker 8>to bypass the ill effects, the bad taste. Right, So

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:03.560
<v Speaker 8>that's something she took on and quite honestly, the contract

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 8>says she was very successful at it. The contract says,

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:12.080
<v Speaker 8>so when you take that retention need, the wellness piece,

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 8>the drawing the attention of a financial reward, if I may,

0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:20.520
<v Speaker 8>for what's never rewarded high enough, never will be, Terry

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.960
<v Speaker 8>took that into what needed to be done, and I

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:27.520
<v Speaker 8>think the outcome on paper was a success. And you

0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 8>don't do that not caring. You don't do that without

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:33.359
<v Speaker 8>being a leader for this city, for your officers, because

0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:36.640
<v Speaker 8>it's a balance and she balanced it well in my opinion,

0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:41.520
<v Speaker 8>and until until we get those numbers up, and she

0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:44.319
<v Speaker 8>had a goal of so many officers for so many

0:52:44.400 --> 0:52:47.399
<v Speaker 8>years to get to get us there.

0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, can you guys stay for the next segment. I

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 1>really hope you can, because we got a lot more

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 1>to cover. We're out of time now for this segment

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that will come back after the news. Mike Allen's Saturday

0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Midnight seven hundred WLW Mike Allman Saturday Midday talking to

0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:08.560
<v Speaker 1>various members of the Neville family, and we're talking about

0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the situation with Chief Fiji.

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 3>I was still trying to come up with a reason

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:17.879
<v Speaker 3>to get rid of her.

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:20.440
<v Speaker 1>They're not having a lot of luck doing that, and

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it's pretty obvious why. In my humble opinion,

0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:27.920
<v Speaker 1>and I haven't been on CPD for a million years,

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:30.359
<v Speaker 1>but I watch it. In my opinion, she was one

0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 1>hell of a police chief. One thing I wanted to

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:37.880
<v Speaker 1>ask you, Russ, the combination of District three into District five.

0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:41.799
<v Speaker 1>When I saw that happening, I thought, Man, what a

0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:47.240
<v Speaker 1>logistical nightmare this is going to be. And Chief Sigi

0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:49.160
<v Speaker 1>was right in the middle of that. What are your

0:53:49.160 --> 0:53:51.280
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on that? And I know it wasn't just those

0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 1>two merging. Other districts were affected as well.

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:56.959
<v Speaker 3>I guess what happened, Mike, was.

0:53:58.440 --> 0:54:01.000
<v Speaker 5>District five used to be on Central Party, right there

0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:03.800
<v Speaker 5>were structural issues. And beyond there, well, they had a

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 5>range in the basement, didn't they. That was many many

0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:08.880
<v Speaker 5>many moons ago. That was not during even my career,

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:14.319
<v Speaker 5>that was not active. But so when that issue developed, however,

0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:17.400
<v Speaker 5>many years ago, they transitioned District five to a strip

0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 5>mall in College Hill. That facility was too small, but

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:24.279
<v Speaker 5>they made it work. However, many years they were there,

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:28.120
<v Speaker 5>the lease was expiring, and as the lease was expiring, like,

0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:30.719
<v Speaker 5>there was no plan by the city administration on what

0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:33.839
<v Speaker 5>they were going to do regarding a new District five.

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 5>So once again, effective leadership, strong leadership, the willingness to

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:41.640
<v Speaker 5>take on the difficult task. Terry took that on and

0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:43.799
<v Speaker 5>they came to the conclusion that the best option was

0:54:43.840 --> 0:54:48.200
<v Speaker 5>to consolidate districts. And I'm the first to say, we're

0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:50.000
<v Speaker 5>the first to say that not all of it was

0:54:50.080 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 5>received well and not all of it is as successful

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:54.880
<v Speaker 5>as you may want, but it is the best in

0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:58.560
<v Speaker 5>the best option available. So what she did is she

0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:03.640
<v Speaker 5>what she with a team of folks, was the consolidation

0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:07.200
<v Speaker 5>from five districts to four districts. In the long run,

0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:12.520
<v Speaker 5>there's geographical changes, there's community impact, there's community meetings. But

0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:15.000
<v Speaker 5>the bottom line of all of it is the operations

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 5>of the department remained strong. There was no reduction in

0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:22.400
<v Speaker 5>staff of any sort. There was no loss of rank

0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:25.920
<v Speaker 5>of any member in the organization. As this consolidation of heard,

0:55:26.560 --> 0:55:28.960
<v Speaker 5>services continue to be provided and they continue to be

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:33.239
<v Speaker 5>provided today, and it saved the city approximately i'd say

0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:38.000
<v Speaker 5>twenty thirty forty million dollars in the potential of building

0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:43.319
<v Speaker 5>a new District five. So I just go back to Mike.

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<v Speaker 5>We all have our detractors, We all have people that

0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:51.160
<v Speaker 5>don't agree with decisions we make and maybe even the

0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:54.960
<v Speaker 5>way we make them, and Terry potentially falls under that

0:55:55.040 --> 0:55:58.600
<v Speaker 5>as well. But you cannot shy away from the myth

0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:01.160
<v Speaker 5>that is out there or the narrative they are trying

0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:04.240
<v Speaker 5>to portray is she was an ineffective leader.

0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:08.239
<v Speaker 1>It's obvious to anyone that looks at it, even casually,

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I think, and that's leadership, isn't it. I Mean, sometimes

0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:18.319
<v Speaker 1>things don't go always as planned, especially in policing. But

0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean saving the city that much money, that's a

0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:22.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty big deal.

0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 5>Not only saving the city the money, and yes, that's

0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:30.759
<v Speaker 5>critically important, but the resources were relocated to benefit the communities.

0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:36.719
<v Speaker 5>The allocation was successful. Nobody lost their job, Mike, nobody

0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:41.360
<v Speaker 5>lost rank or positioning. So to take that upon with

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:45.720
<v Speaker 5>the risk of all of that and succeed, two thumbs

0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:47.640
<v Speaker 5>up to her. And I just keep going back to

0:56:47.719 --> 0:56:50.760
<v Speaker 5>that and so on the District five or the city

0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:53.600
<v Speaker 5>district consolidation. That's kind of an overview, and they're gist

0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:54.920
<v Speaker 5>of the circumstances.

0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:56.239
<v Speaker 3>I get it. Well.

0:56:56.239 --> 0:56:58.359
<v Speaker 1>One of the things that I'm hearing and a lot

0:56:58.400 --> 0:57:01.080
<v Speaker 1>of people in the system are hearing citizens too, is

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the situation, uh with judges and you know, the change

0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:12.239
<v Speaker 1>of how the courthouse is. Chief Fiji was I mean

0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:16.560
<v Speaker 1>active in monitoring that. I guess what did she do

0:57:16.600 --> 0:57:22.560
<v Speaker 1>from a leadership perspective on that, because it's a big issue. Well,

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean she was a participant with other county law

0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:33.160
<v Speaker 1>enforcement agencies to put together a body that would make

0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:38.680
<v Speaker 1>it public information or accountability on judges, on sentences and bonds,

0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and just to make it transparency, provide transparency. That board

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:49.240
<v Speaker 1>continues to operate even with Chief Diji removed, but it

0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:52.160
<v Speaker 1>was her initiation that brought it and I we are

0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:55.800
<v Speaker 1>of the opinion that was one of the significant, significant

0:57:55.800 --> 0:58:00.840
<v Speaker 1>elements that led to her administrative suspension. They can hide

0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:03.720
<v Speaker 1>from it, they can deny it, they can lie about it,

0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:08.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's fact. And even the Hamion County Chiefs Association,

0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I believe is what they're called, recently publicly thanked and

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:17.000
<v Speaker 1>gave credit to Chief Diji for bringing that board or

0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 1>that body together to try to improve the judicial process

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:23.440
<v Speaker 1>for the benefit of the public, for the benefit of

0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:26.320
<v Speaker 1>what kind of sentences are people really getting and what

0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:29.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of releases and early releases are people really receiving

0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and the people in the public have the right for

0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:36.000
<v Speaker 1>transparency on that, and it wasn't received well from the

0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:39.200
<v Speaker 1>inner circles. Got you one thing I wanted to ask

0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you about, peripherally relevant. I think issue five back in

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the year two thousand, that was an issue that got

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:51.120
<v Speaker 1>on the ballot where they would remove the chief and

0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the assistant chiefs from civil service protection. I was prosecutor

0:58:55.520 --> 0:58:58.960
<v Speaker 1>at the time I worked on the campaign. Anyone who

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:01.960
<v Speaker 1>spent any time in the system knew that that was

0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:05.439
<v Speaker 1>going to be a disaster. The chief, as I said,

0:59:05.520 --> 0:59:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and the assistant chiefs back then had civil service protection.

0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Chief Theji didn't. She's at the whim of politicians I

0:59:13.760 --> 0:59:15.200
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to bring that up to see if any

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:17.880
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to comment on that, because I hope, I

0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:19.760
<v Speaker 1>hope we see it back on the ballot again.

0:59:20.200 --> 0:59:22.880
<v Speaker 7>I don't, I don't the three of us collectively agree

0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:25.919
<v Speaker 7>with you one hundred percent. The issue five has had

0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:29.240
<v Speaker 7>has its at its time. I don't think it's been successful.

0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:32.120
<v Speaker 7>I think Chief Striker is the last one yet Fellow

0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:35.520
<v Speaker 7>without it, and then you had, you know, three four chiefs,

0:59:35.520 --> 0:59:36.320
<v Speaker 7>what have you.

0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:39.400
<v Speaker 3>I think it's time for City Council to.

0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:42.800
<v Speaker 7>Do what's proper and maybe put it however it takes,

0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:45.600
<v Speaker 7>to put it back on a ballot, referendum, whatever the

0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:49.000
<v Speaker 7>case may be. This is very much a hot topic

0:59:49.080 --> 0:59:54.000
<v Speaker 7>for us and support the fop's desires for that. In fact,

0:59:54.040 --> 0:59:56.400
<v Speaker 7>I think it would just make the department stronger. It

0:59:56.400 --> 0:59:59.000
<v Speaker 7>would make the fire department stronger, whatever you want to say,

0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:01.880
<v Speaker 7>because because when you have one person making a decision

1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:09.360
<v Speaker 7>for such a important aspect of first responders and citizen safety,

1:00:09.720 --> 1:00:12.320
<v Speaker 7>it's not good. So I would say call out City

1:00:12.360 --> 1:00:14.600
<v Speaker 7>Council a little bit to say we need to rethink this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, with the current political makeup of the city, it

1:00:18.640 --> 1:00:21.240
<v Speaker 1>would be an uphill battle, but I still think it

1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:23.880
<v Speaker 1>could be done if people are educated as to what

1:00:24.040 --> 1:00:24.840
<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, uphill battle is one thing, right and wrongs another.

1:00:29.880 --> 1:00:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's absolutely And those that knew knew this was

1:00:34.000 --> 1:00:35.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be a train wreck, and I think it

1:00:36.520 --> 1:00:38.400
<v Speaker 1>just barely passed back then.

1:00:38.480 --> 1:00:40.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was really close.

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<v Speaker 1>We got about five more minutes, and I want to

1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:47.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about what you guys want to talk about, So

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<v Speaker 1>you guys can make the closing argument if you.

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<v Speaker 5>Will, Mike and Rick and follow this. But I think again,

1:00:55.320 --> 1:00:57.880
<v Speaker 5>why we're here is not to draw attention to the

1:00:57.920 --> 1:01:04.360
<v Speaker 5>nevils or the thegs beyond chief role, dignity, reputation. This

1:01:04.400 --> 1:01:08.360
<v Speaker 5>is not about monetary This is about the ability to

1:01:08.520 --> 1:01:11.000
<v Speaker 5>leave a thirty five year career with your head held

1:01:11.080 --> 1:01:16.880
<v Speaker 5>high with the facts known. Yep, not speculation, not sour grapes,

1:01:16.960 --> 1:01:20.440
<v Speaker 5>but facts. And why we're here today is present those facts,

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<v Speaker 5>and hopefully the public listening to your program understands, appreciates,

1:01:24.840 --> 1:01:27.680
<v Speaker 5>and accepts those facts as they are valid and we

1:01:27.720 --> 1:01:30.959
<v Speaker 5>have the ability to show support for them. It's reputation, Mike,

1:01:31.040 --> 1:01:34.000
<v Speaker 5>and she deserves better. They stole it from her. Yeah,

1:01:34.000 --> 1:01:39.560
<v Speaker 5>they stole from her the opportunity to enjoy retirement. They

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<v Speaker 5>stole from her the opportunity to spend her days peacefully

1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:46.040
<v Speaker 5>with her grandchildren without this being on her mind and

1:01:46.080 --> 1:01:48.560
<v Speaker 5>in her gut. It's an ebb and flow every day.

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<v Speaker 5>And we will continue to fight on behalf of Terry,

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<v Speaker 5>and we will continue to provide facts and see where

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<v Speaker 5>this goes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you've done an incredible job so far, and

1:01:59.280 --> 1:02:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a very important thing. You can even

1:02:01.640 --> 1:02:04.960
<v Speaker 1>boil it down further. I think it's right and wrong.

1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:08.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't do a person like that. You don't do

1:02:08.080 --> 1:02:10.480
<v Speaker 1>a chief of police with all the years of service

1:02:10.520 --> 1:02:13.680
<v Speaker 1>that she has had. You just don't do it, you know,

1:02:14.320 --> 1:02:17.920
<v Speaker 1>because of a political issue to say yes, sorry, chief,

1:02:18.120 --> 1:02:20.480
<v Speaker 1>you got to go, Well why do I have to go?

1:02:20.760 --> 1:02:23.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, we'll figure it out. I mean, it's just not right.

1:02:23.400 --> 1:02:25.480
<v Speaker 7>Everything you have in front of you, and everything we've

1:02:25.520 --> 1:02:30.120
<v Speaker 7>talked about has been shared with plump Street. Whether they're

1:02:30.120 --> 1:02:33.120
<v Speaker 7>reading them or not, I can't answer that. I gotta

1:02:33.160 --> 1:02:37.040
<v Speaker 7>believe they read their emails, so they've got this information,

1:02:37.240 --> 1:02:39.720
<v Speaker 7>and I have to believe the majority of them're center

1:02:39.800 --> 1:02:41.439
<v Speaker 7>going what do we just do?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep?

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<v Speaker 8>Am, I I mean closer with sure, there's one thing

1:02:45.920 --> 1:02:48.360
<v Speaker 8>about leadership, right, and Terry's a phenomenal leader, And I'll

1:02:48.400 --> 1:02:48.760
<v Speaker 8>leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 3>You said twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, based upon what I have seen, you know,

1:02:55.760 --> 1:02:58.680
<v Speaker 1>being in the system, I would agree with you wholeheartedly.

1:02:58.760 --> 1:03:02.840
<v Speaker 1>And I really really love it that this family is

1:03:02.920 --> 1:03:06.479
<v Speaker 1>not taking this line down because something should be done

1:03:06.520 --> 1:03:07.960
<v Speaker 1>about it, you know.

1:03:08.280 --> 1:03:08.880
<v Speaker 3>And I know you.

1:03:08.800 --> 1:03:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Guys aren't political, but when the city of Cincinnati becomes

1:03:12.960 --> 1:03:18.760
<v Speaker 1>such that only one party can have any input into anything,

1:03:19.400 --> 1:03:20.920
<v Speaker 1>that's not a good thing anywhere.

1:03:21.000 --> 1:03:22.240
<v Speaker 3>And it wouldn't be a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Of his all Republicans too, But law enforcement in this

1:03:26.360 --> 1:03:29.520
<v Speaker 1>city and the Cincinnati Police Department, in my humble opinion,

1:03:30.040 --> 1:03:34.240
<v Speaker 1>is something special, something good that has been recognized throughout

1:03:34.280 --> 1:03:37.600
<v Speaker 1>the years, going all the way back when Stanchrotel was

1:03:37.640 --> 1:03:41.640
<v Speaker 1>on the cover of Life magazine. I was honored to

1:03:41.640 --> 1:03:43.440
<v Speaker 1>be a part of it in a very short period

1:03:43.480 --> 1:03:47.160
<v Speaker 1>of time. But and again it boils down to, in

1:03:47.200 --> 1:03:49.480
<v Speaker 1>my humble opinion, you just can't do.

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<v Speaker 5>People like this, you know, go back to our opening point, Mike,

1:03:52.400 --> 1:03:57.000
<v Speaker 5>based on that statement of Terry's one percent support for

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<v Speaker 5>the CINCINNTI Police Department, the success of the Cincinnati Police

1:03:59.880 --> 1:04:05.280
<v Speaker 5>Department the success of those that are administrative positions. Now, yeah,

1:04:05.000 --> 1:04:09.600
<v Speaker 5>the safety of the community, the mental wellness of the

1:04:09.640 --> 1:04:12.840
<v Speaker 5>members all fall in their hands, and we have one

1:04:12.880 --> 1:04:15.080
<v Speaker 5>hundred percent support and faith in them to do it

1:04:15.120 --> 1:04:16.800
<v Speaker 5>successfully well for.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever it's worth.

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<v Speaker 1>The circles I travel in, they see this for what

1:04:20.800 --> 1:04:25.920
<v Speaker 1>it is, just a political kind of BS thing. So

1:04:26.320 --> 1:04:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I think you have the public on your side. I

1:04:28.520 --> 1:04:31.840
<v Speaker 1>am so impressed. I drive down the street and I

1:04:31.880 --> 1:04:37.400
<v Speaker 1>see we support Chief Thiji. I never, am my wildest dreams,

1:04:37.440 --> 1:04:39.439
<v Speaker 1>would have thought at chief of police in the city

1:04:39.440 --> 1:04:41.920
<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati would have to do that. But and the

1:04:41.960 --> 1:04:44.800
<v Speaker 1>T shirts as well. You guys are doing a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a job with it. I mean that too. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the only one saying that.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. It means a lot my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, we got to take a break, but we'll be back.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back and we'll start talking about the president's

1:04:57.520 --> 1:05:00.600
<v Speaker 1>news conference, which is scheduled for a lot sven o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Allan sat