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Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday Midday

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Speaker 1: and a cold Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I tell you what, you never know what you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get when you wake up in the morning. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's always something, sometimes good, sometimes not so good. Well,

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Speaker 1: this morning was a good one. Woke up to the

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Speaker 1: news that none other than Venezuelan dictators strong man is

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Speaker 1: picked up. He's Gonzo, no more, no more fooling around.

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Speaker 3: With that guy. He's gone.

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Speaker 1: Nicholas Maduro, president strongman, whatever you want to call him.

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Speaker 1: He claimed to be I guess president of Venezuela, but

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Speaker 1: he was not elected in any kind of election that

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Speaker 1: was sanctioned. Strong evidence that he cheated to get there.

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Speaker 3: So we got him.

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Speaker 1: We got him not only with military force, but law

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Speaker 1: enforcement personnel.

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Speaker 3: We're involved in it as well.

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Speaker 1: And at eleven o'clock President Trump is going to have

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Speaker 1: a news conference and make a statement. We will be

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Speaker 1: covering that as I understand it. But the thing is

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Speaker 1: almost never never starts on time, so my guess be

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Speaker 1: probably somewhere closer to eleven thirty.

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Speaker 3: But he's captured.

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Speaker 1: He and his wife, they will both be guests tonight

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Speaker 1: at the Federal Crowbar Hotel somewhere in the United States

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Speaker 1: courtesy of the United States government, and President Trump made

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Speaker 1: a statement on X I guess yeah, X no true

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Speaker 1: social I think, And what he said basically was that, look,

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Speaker 1: you know, we warned this guy. We told him, we

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Speaker 1: told him we're going to come and get him, told

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Speaker 1: him to stop doing what he was doing, and he didn't.

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Speaker 1: Captured and flown out of the country. It was a

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Speaker 1: large scale strike carried out by the military. Explosions reported

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Speaker 1: in Caracas and elsewhere. It was a US military's Delta Force,

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Speaker 1: and of course I'm sure you know about them.

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Speaker 3: They're an elite special forces unit.

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Speaker 1: They carried out the operation to capture at Maduro, and

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Speaker 1: in the coming days we will find.

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Speaker 3: Out more and more and more about it.

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Speaker 1: The strikes follow months of US military built up. We

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Speaker 1: had a aircraft carry down there, the Gerald R.

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Speaker 3: Ford So and.

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Speaker 1: In recent weeks we have seized two oil tankers off

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Speaker 1: the Venezuelan coach coast and as you know, launched a

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Speaker 1: number of strikes I think it's about thirty on the

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Speaker 1: drug boats carrying drugs and what President Trump called the

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Speaker 1: dock area.

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Speaker 3: Where they load the boats up with drugs. They hit

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Speaker 3: that too.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if you're a mother, father, whatever, a

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Speaker 1: family member that has lost someone to drug abuse, I

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Speaker 1: think you're probably happy this morning. But you got the

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Speaker 1: people that are whining and already, and we will talk

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Speaker 1: about them in a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But I'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: When I woke up this morning, it gives me a

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Speaker 1: sense of pride in my country. I mean not because

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Speaker 1: people died or anything like that, but because when we

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Speaker 1: say something in the form of President Trump being the

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Speaker 1: United States president, we mean it. And I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 1: you got to hand it to that guy, even if

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Speaker 1: you don't like him, of course they never will.

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Speaker 3: If he says he's gonna do something, he does it. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: He was indicted to back in March twenty twenty all

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Speaker 1: kinds of serious strong fellony, drug charges, narco terrorism, other

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Speaker 1: kinds of things, and he will now he will now

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Speaker 1: stand trial on that. And interestingly enough, Gary Jeff pointed

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Speaker 1: this out. It is six years to the day that

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Speaker 1: under the leadership of President George H. W. Bush, we

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Speaker 1: snatched up Manuel Noriega, same kind of deal drug kingpin,

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Speaker 1: got him back here, tried him, he was convicted, convicted,

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Speaker 1: locked up here from nineteen ninety to two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 1: and then I didn't know this. France got him for

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Speaker 1: a year twenty ten to twenty eleven. He has returned

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Speaker 1: to Panama to serve his sentences for the crimes he

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Speaker 1: from brain surgery. So you know, at the bottom line,

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Speaker 1: you can run, but you can't hide. If we have

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Speaker 1: strong leadership in the White House, we're gonna get you.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get you one way or the other. And

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Speaker 1: like I said, you know, it's not as if the

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Speaker 1: guy wasn't warned. So for me, I woke up this

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Speaker 1: morning heard about that a renewed sense of pride in

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Speaker 1: being a citizen of the United States of America. We

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Speaker 1: are no longer seen as a pitiful giant, if you will.

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Speaker 1: I've seen as a country that when we say we're

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Speaker 1: going to do something, we do it. Now, compare and

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Speaker 1: contrast this with the bungled and deadly Afghaan pullout from Afghanistan.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure we all remember that.

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Speaker 1: It was August of two thousand and one.

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Speaker 3: I watched that and my jaw drop just aghast.

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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable, so chaotic, so bungled, and so deadly.

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Speaker 1: I think we lost thirteen service members because of that,

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Speaker 1: and that was a huge embarrassment for the United States

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Speaker 1: of America, perhaps the biggest, if not one of the biggest,

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Speaker 1: that we have ever had, all because of the commander

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. And you know, I'm sorry, I mean, the guy.

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Speaker 1: We are going to be paying for him for years

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Speaker 1: and years to come. And just ask yourself a question too,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what if this or carry out Well, it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have been under either of those two, but just

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Speaker 1: That wasn't going to happen, and thank goodness it didn't.

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Speaker 1: But you get back to the Afghanistan thing. Thirteen service

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Speaker 1: members killed, we left behind. I think the figure was

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Speaker 1: about seven or eight billion dollars worth of very very

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Speaker 1: complex and useful military gear that apparently a lot of

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Speaker 1: it fell into the hands of al Qaeda. So we're

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Speaker 1: arming our enemies through our negligence. And then to top

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Speaker 1: it all off, Joe Biden classified it as an extraordinary success.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta be kidding me.

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Speaker 1: And already, already the boo birds are out, one of

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Speaker 1: which is a Republican Senator Mike Lee of Utah.

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Speaker 3: You know he's all wound up that.

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Speaker 1: Well, Congress wasn't notified, what's the president's authority? Blah blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And there's Democrats saying that now as well. Now,

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Speaker 1: just let's think about this for a minute. Congress wasn't

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Speaker 1: not if I will first and foremost, they don't have

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Speaker 1: to be. And if they did, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if the president, I don't know how he

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Speaker 1: or whatever. If he told them, not ask their permission,

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Speaker 1: but told them what was going to happen. How long

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Speaker 1: do you think that would take to get transmitted to

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Speaker 3: You got to be kidne me. There's no way, there's

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Speaker 3: no way.

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Speaker 1: And with respect to his authority to do this, President Trump,

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Speaker 1: Article two, Section two clause one, I mean, he's the

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Speaker 1: well within his power to deploy them for short term,

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Speaker 1: limited action. Now, of course, if there's going to be

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Speaker 1: that they should have been notified.

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Speaker 3: That ain't the case here. So I'm not worried about it.

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Speaker 1: Although you know, somebody will probably file suit in some

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Speaker 1: federal court because of judge shopping. They may very well

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Speaker 1: find an Obama or Biden appointee that will kind of

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Speaker 3: I look for that to happen.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be successful if it's fair, but

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Speaker 1: you know, they'll probably do a deal where well, you know, sorry,

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Speaker 1: you're going to have to return him to Venezuela. And

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Speaker 1: I say that kind of tongue in cheek, but not really.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you just don't know anymore. And you have

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Speaker 1: so many federal judges, well, so many people that are

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Speaker 1: judges who are nothing more than activist, My goodness. In

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Speaker 1: this administration, how often have we seen that? Well, here's

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Speaker 1: an example of the after action report, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: From the Democrats. You got Senator Reuben Diego. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what state he's from, but he's a Democrat. Quote,

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Speaker 1: this war is illegal. Close quote. Shortly after we launched

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Speaker 1: these strikes against Venezuela, he comes out, he wrote on

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Speaker 1: x this war is illegal. The senator he isn't. I

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Speaker 1: admire him for this. US Marine Corps veteran who was

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Speaker 1: deployed in Iraq called it the second unjustified war in

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Speaker 1: my lifetime. Again, why can't you just sit back and

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Speaker 1: take pride in your country? You know, for those that

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Speaker 1: really don't follow it that closely red China was making

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Speaker 1: a lot of headway into Venezuela, as was Russia. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think Trump recognizes the Monroe doctrine. We have to

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Speaker 1: be pre eminent in South America.

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Speaker 3: We have to.

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Speaker 1: But no, let's start picking on him and backbiting and

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Speaker 1: everything else. And one of the good things about this too,

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Speaker 1: is that the opposition leader you probably have heard her report,

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Speaker 1: Maria Corrina Machado. She's the one I believe that won

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Speaker 1: the one the Nobel Peace Prize, and she praised President

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Speaker 1: Trump when she accepted it and said that he should

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Speaker 3: She's already on the air. I've seen her a couple

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you there are a lot of people

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Speaker 1: or the leader whatever they want to call him in Venezuela,

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Speaker 1: because that country, which is so rich in oil and

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Speaker 3: He says now that he is the commander in chief.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, Nicholas Maduro's VP says, I'm the man. Well,

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Speaker 1: and again getting back to the lady who were just

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Speaker 1: talking about Maria Corona Machado, here's what she said. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think this was yesterday. I think this might

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Speaker 1: have been a couple of weeks ago. We the Venezuela

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Speaker 1: and people are very grateful to him, meaning the president

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Speaker 1: and his administration, because I believe he is a champion

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Speaker 1: of freedom in this hemisphere. See that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: The hemisphere is important to us. Biden just kind of

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Speaker 1: let it go by the wayside, but President Trump is

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Speaker 1: re establishing the American presence in that area. I guess

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Speaker 1: they hit him pretty hard. According to CBS, they able

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Speaker 1: to Grain of Salt, Caracas military bases, and Major Venezuela

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Speaker 1: in port A, Major Venezuelan port was hit by the

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Speaker 1: US air strikes. That's what the political opposition says, some

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Speaker 1: guy named David Smolonsky. He's a spokesman for opposition leader

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Speaker 1: Oh the good One. Maria Karina Machado told CBS News

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Speaker 1: the following locations were among those that were hit. Fueraday

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Speaker 1: Tijuana main artillery base in Caracas, La Carlata main air

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Speaker 1: base in Caracas, El Vulcan Signal antenna post, and Laguira Port,

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Speaker 1: which is a seaport on the Caribbean coast. So they

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Speaker 1: hit him pretty hard. And you know, if it hasn't

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Speaker 1: started already, what you're going to be hearing is, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: you know they got the dictator out, but why did

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Speaker 1: you have to hit all those ports?

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Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: The President's response to that will be, but I am

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Speaker 1: certain whatever it is, it will be justified. I guess

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Speaker 1: it all boils down to this you know, I'm an attorney,

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Speaker 4: Heang, Apparently the world is a better day to today. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: They got the big fish. And apparently they hit some

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Speaker 1: And like I said, I woke up, I watched this

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Speaker 3: Now, I did not know that.

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Speaker 3: This is a problem.

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Speaker 1: It is incumbent upon us, as the government, military, law

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Speaker 3: He did it in a more power to Trumps today. Man.

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Speaker 2: Hey, have a nice day and be careful out there.

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Speaker 4: I am proud to be an American today just like you.

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Speaker 3: Damn stream, and I'm.

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Speaker 6: Very proud of you every week to get out here

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Speaker 4: says when the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice,

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Speaker 4: and when the unrighteous are in an authority, the people mourn.

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Speaker 4: And the reason that the country's coming back. And I

439
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Speaker 4: have some good news for all your listeners, okay, whether

440
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Speaker 4: whether they're Christians or not. It appears that when Charlie

441
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Speaker 4: Kirk was assassin, God decided he was going to start

442
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Speaker 4: a waking up our country and intervening. If you want

443
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Speaker 4: to check it out on the internet, there are more

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Speaker 4: There are more young people reading their Bible and going

445
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Speaker 4: to church and Bible sales are up maybe about sixty

446
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Speaker 4: percent from last year. Now, go, God's do something with

447
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Speaker 4: the next generation. But we are the generation that needs

448
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Speaker 4: to mentor these kids, and we and the thing that

449
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Speaker 4: we need to do. We got a midterm coming up.

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Speaker 4: We got to hold these politicians on the local, state,

451
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Speaker 4: and federal level accountable to the people who have the authority,

452
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Speaker 4: who pay all the bills. And I know you're going

453
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Speaker 4: to be hammering this, but while I'm just going to

454
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Speaker 4: say this publicly to you, I've been talking to you

455
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Speaker 4: for about a year or so about the seven Mountains

456
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Speaker 4: of influence and they're gatekeepers, that are and the government,

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Speaker 4: and the government mountain has been dominating our entire country

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Speaker 4: for about the last twenty years. So at some point

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Speaker 4: I would like to get on the air with you

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Speaker 4: explain to your people what the seven mountains really are

461
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Speaker 4: and how on the local, state and national level we

462
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Speaker 4: can turn this thing around and watch God get what

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Speaker 4: he wants and then mutch our country turn around and

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Speaker 4: we're on our way right now. God's doing something. And

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you every Saturday for being open and allowing

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Speaker 4: the people to speak their mind and their beliefs.

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Speaker 1: Thank you mich I appreciate that. Those are kind words.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it, you know, I think it's important

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Speaker 1: to do that. I mean, I don't know. I grew

470
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Speaker 1: up at a time when you're pretty much automatically proud

471
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Speaker 1: to be an American. I mean, nobody had to tell

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Speaker 1: you that. You didn't have to think about it. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm in first and second grade, and I knew we're

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Speaker 1: in the best country in the world.

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Speaker 3: Even at that young age.

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Speaker 1: I knew there were problems, but hey, we're American citizens

477
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Speaker 1: and that means something. And boy, you know, I guess

478
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Speaker 1: coming with with the Vietnam War, the Civil rights movement,

479
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Speaker 1: which that needed to be done, it did, and for

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Speaker 1: those there are still a few I guess around that

481
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Speaker 1: think that that was all bad.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Those things had to happen, but we still we still

484
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Speaker 1: came out of it. I believe, the strongest country in

485
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Speaker 1: the world, and that kind of lagged for a while,

486
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Speaker 1: but it's coming back. But you know what, it is

487
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Speaker 1: so fragile. It is so fragile. That's why it's so

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Speaker 1: important to boil this these platitudes down to practicality. It's

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Speaker 1: critical that we keep the house and the Senate. We

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Speaker 1: have to if we don't. Donald J. Trump is a

491
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Speaker 1: lame duck. I mean technically he is anyway, but and

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Speaker 1: you know, if I know him, he'll still find a

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Speaker 1: way to get things done. I mean he's already cranked

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Speaker 1: out any number of executive orders. But that's why in

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Speaker 1: the MAGA people we talked about this. I had Alex

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Speaker 1: chan to feel you on earlier in the week, I

497
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Speaker 1: was in for slowany the magabase they don't get out

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Speaker 1: and vote if Trump ain't on the ballot, and man,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, he's just snatched right on that. Alex

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Speaker 1: did the chair of the Ohio GOP and said, we

501
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Speaker 1: are ready for that, Mike. We're working on that. We

502
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Speaker 1: understand that that's a problem. And you know, the people

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Speaker 1: that support Trump ought to be able to know that

504
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Speaker 1: if you don't put people in there that support him,

505
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Speaker 1: he's still gonna do what he's gonna do. But you

506
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Speaker 1: just need you need to have that base in there.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, again, a great day to be an American.

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Speaker 1: As I said, no casualties with respect to deaths. A

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Speaker 1: couple of injuries. Apparently one was somewhat bad. It's kind

510
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Speaker 1: of a murky, but they think that he's going to

511
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Speaker 1: make it, so we shall see. But I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing just when they lay this out, the precision

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Speaker 1: of this military strike, it is. It's unbelievable what the

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Speaker 1: United States military can do these days. And again, no

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Speaker 1: deaths out of this thing from the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: and more oftener than not. When we do something, we're

517
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Speaker 1: able to do it with no or very little deaths, wounds,

518
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Speaker 1: wounded people, something like that, things like that. But it's

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Speaker 1: really amazing. And you know, Trump just did a thing.

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Speaker 1: Some criticized him for it. The seventeen seventy six I

521
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Speaker 1: guess it was New Year's Day or close to it.

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Speaker 1: And you probably already know this, but any service member soldier, sailor, marine,

523
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Speaker 1: coast guardsman, airmen, air woman, they got one seven hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy six dollars as a Christmas bonus from the

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Speaker 1: President of the United States and obviously from the taxpayers.

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Speaker 1: And while some grumbled, Hey give them anything they need

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Speaker 1: because they're in there doing that job and they should

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Speaker 1: be recognized. And that's not always the way it was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a history teacher, but I'm sure

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Speaker 1: y'all know that in the Vietnam War that didn't happen

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Speaker 1: that way. When those young men came home, they weren't

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Speaker 1: allowed to wear their uniform because they were afraid that

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Speaker 1: somebody would give them some grief. Not that they couldn't

534
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: very easily handle that if that's what they were told

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Speaker 1: to do. But it wasn't that way forever, but it

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Speaker 1: is now. It is now. You know, I spent ten

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Speaker 1: years in the Army Reserve, the jag Corps. Never got

538
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Speaker 1: anywhere close to any combat zone anything like that. And

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Speaker 1: you know, people they'll ask you, are you a veteran,

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Speaker 1: and I said, well, yeah, technically reserve, And I'm proud

541
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Speaker 1: of my service.

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Speaker 3: We did a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: We did these what they call pre mobilization bree things

544
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Speaker 1: where the people that were going over they're the soldiers

545
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Speaker 1: that were going to the combat zones. We did their wills,

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Speaker 1: we did powers of attorney, and again, I'm proud of

547
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Speaker 1: that service. But I wasn't anywhere close to it. And

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Speaker 1: there's been a couple of times too restaurants where they've

549
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Speaker 1: wanted to give me a break on it. I just

550
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Speaker 1: in good conscience, I couldn't take it because I believe me.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind getting something for nothing, but it's just,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it's right to do that

553
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Speaker 1: when you had people that were really, really in the

554
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Speaker 1: middle of that. I guess that's just a long way

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Speaker 1: of saying that, Well, I'll tell you, we cannot do

556
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Speaker 1: enough for these people. We just can't. We're gonna have

557
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Speaker 1: to break it a minute. But I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: kind of go over what the president said again on Fox.

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Speaker 1: He'll be speaking around eleven. One helicopter did get hit, injuries,

560
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Speaker 1: but no deaths. The helicopter was able to land. I

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Speaker 1: suppose back on the USS gerald Ford, the aircraft carrier

562
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Speaker 1: that's close to Venezuela. No retaliatory firepower from Venezuela. Maduro

563
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Speaker 1: and his wife, they were taken from a safe house

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Speaker 1: in Caracas and flown to Iwjima. That's the name that

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Speaker 1: should be familiar to all of us. Were United States

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Speaker 1: Marine Corps, and I think there was some army too,

567
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Speaker 1: just so bravely fought there against overwhelming Japanese forces. But

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Speaker 1: that's where they were flown. The president said that he

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Speaker 1: was in a safe house. He was behind a bunch

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Speaker 1: of metal doors. They knew this was coming. They knew

571
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Speaker 1: this was coming. They got there, the service members got there,

572
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Speaker 1: They had a blow torch ready to blow torch the

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Speaker 1: hell out of that door.

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Speaker 3: They didn't need it.

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Speaker 1: They got him, They got him, and again they now,

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Speaker 1: I believe, are flown to Evejima, probably waiting to go

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Speaker 1: back to the United States. And my guess is sometime

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Speaker 1: this week, perhaps maybe even as early as Monday, they well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if she's charged, but he will be

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Speaker 1: arraigned before a federal judge somewhere. My guess is it

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Speaker 1: would probably be the DC District. And man, there are

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Speaker 1: some judges that I would describe as activist masquerading as

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Speaker 1: federal judges.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens. But he's not.

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Speaker 1: There is no way on God's green Earth that he's

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Speaker 1: going to get a bond. He will be held with

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Speaker 1: no bond. Trump said that he watched it live. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the technology we have now. He watched the whole

589
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Speaker 1: thing go down live. Finally, he said it was supposed

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Speaker 1: to happen four days ago New Year's Eve, but the

591
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Speaker 1: weather prevented that. The way or weather wasn't good. He

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Speaker 1: said it was great yesterday. So anyway, we have to

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Speaker 1: take a break, but we're going to change gears a

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Speaker 1: little bit.

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Speaker 3: When we get back.

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Speaker 1: We are going to be talking to live in studio

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Speaker 1: Russ Neville, who I believe is the brother of the

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Speaker 1: chief of Police Chief Fiji and the Neville family, and

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Speaker 1: I'll let him explain it that just there is no

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Speaker 1: more prominent law enforcement family in these parts than them.

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Speaker 1: They're not taking this thing sitting down at all, and

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we're going to talk to them about it

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Speaker 1: when we get back. Mike Allen's seven hundred WLW oh

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Speaker 1: Now Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday midday,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be keeping an eye on what's going

606
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Speaker 1: on with the situation with the president and the strike

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Speaker 1: and the capture of the dictator in Venezuela.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep an eye on that. He says anything.

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Speaker 1: He's supposed to address the nation through a press conference

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Speaker 1: on at eleven o'clock, but those things never start in time.

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Speaker 1: But in the meantime, something else on a local level,

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Speaker 1: very very important in my humble opinion and I think others.

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Speaker 1: And that's the situation and what's going on with Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Police Chief Teresa Fiji. It's the city. It's obvious they

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Speaker 1: want to get rid of her. They don't know why, though,

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Speaker 1: and they hired a law firm, and I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to say anything bad about Frost Brown Todd because it

618
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Speaker 1: is a good law firm. I guess they weren't able

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Speaker 1: to come up with the reasons, so they got extended

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Speaker 1: into February. I mean, it's kind of common sense. That

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Speaker 1: just doesn't look good. It doesn't make any sense. She

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Speaker 1: has an outstanding record as police chief in many years

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Speaker 1: before that as a police officer, and she's got family

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Speaker 1: members here to talk about it. I'll say one thing,

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Speaker 1: I'll shut up and I'll let them talk. This family

626
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Speaker 1: is not taking this sitting down, and I don't blame

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Speaker 1: one bit because.

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Speaker 3: It's not right. Let's start out. I have three.

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Speaker 1: Just introduce yourselves and we'll go from there. I'm Russ Neville,

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Speaker 1: Terry's brother.

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Speaker 5: Thirty four years with the CINCINNT Police Department and left

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one, and up to the point of

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Speaker 5: these circumstances, enjoyed my retirement.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 7: Rick Nevill Terry's brother retired thirty one and a half

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Speaker 7: years with hamilin Kay Sheriff's Department.

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Speaker 3: Kind of like Russ.

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Speaker 7: Upon retirement, I kind of hung up the uniform and

639
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Speaker 7: went under a rock, if you will, until this incident.

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Speaker 3: Sure, I get that.

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Speaker 8: Mike Neville the third brother, and I retired in twenty

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Speaker 8: nineteen with a little over thirty three years.

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Speaker 3: In law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: Wow, and you count it all up, you guys. And

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Speaker 1: I know you guys are modest, but I think I

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Speaker 1: think the public needs to know this. You've counted up

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Speaker 1: and adding in your father's time, Gary, who was a

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Speaker 1: captain District III, I remember when I was a lowly

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Speaker 1: police cadet. I think I told you guys this. You know,

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Speaker 1: the police catch just probably they were just, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to say, kicked around, but not always. It was like, hey, cadet,

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Speaker 1: go get this. Your father wasn't like that. I rode

653
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Speaker 1: a lot up there, and hey, how are you doing?

654
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: You know, what's going on in your life? That's something

655
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: that you never forget anyway. I just wanted to tell you,

656
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Speaker 1: thank you, Russ. Why don't you start off, tell us

657
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: what's going on, what you're doing? As I just said,

658
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Speaker 1: you guys are not taking this lying down, So why

659
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Speaker 1: don't you kick it?

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Speaker 3: Off here Mike.

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Speaker 5: First of all, thank you very much for the opportunity

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Speaker 5: just to speak on behalf of Terry.

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Speaker 3: My pleasure.

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Speaker 5: I say it each time I have an opportunity to speak.

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Speaker 5: This is not about a legacy element with the devils,

666
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Speaker 5: although it's appreciated the comments. This is about support for

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Speaker 5: Terry at a time of unfair and inappropriate treatment. But

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Speaker 5: before we even get into that, I would like to

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Speaker 5: extent I spoke to Terry just before coming in the

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Speaker 5: studio and she asked that I share her one support

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Speaker 5: for the Sincint Police Department, for the members of the

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Speaker 5: department and for those in the administrative positions of the department,

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Speaker 5: because she understands the operation of the Sinceint Police Department

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Speaker 5: needs to continue forward and needs to continue forward successfully,

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Speaker 5: and it needs to provide the support for the communities

676
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Speaker 5: that are out there that need So she asked that

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Speaker 5: I share that, and I want to make sure we

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Speaker 5: get that in you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Those that know the situation, I think realize that, but

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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't, and I think that was

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Speaker 1: good that you let them know that.

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Speaker 3: This chief of police.

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Speaker 1: How long was she chief by the way, or is

685
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Speaker 1: she chieved so far, well, she's.

686
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Speaker 3: Under administrative suspect she continues to be chief. But that's

687
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Speaker 3: what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I think it's been about three years, okay, an outstanding

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Speaker 1: record in a relatively short period of time.

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Speaker 3: Too.

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Speaker 1: I think it's important that the public know about that,

692
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Speaker 1: know what she has done as police chief. You know,

693
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Speaker 1: it seems to me policing and law enforcement has just

694
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Speaker 1: changed so much over the years, and you got to

695
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Speaker 1: stay on top of all kinds of different things. Technology

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Speaker 1: being one one of the things that I'm impressed with,

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Speaker 1: and I've talked to Ken Kober about this and other

698
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Speaker 1: cops too, is the whole situation with the law enforcement

699
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Speaker 1: use of drones. And as I understand it, that was

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Speaker 1: Chief Fiji's thing. She's the one that kind of got

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Speaker 1: that going.

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Speaker 5: She is the one that got to go in tell

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Speaker 5: us about that again, Terry would be the first to

704
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Speaker 5: say that while she in that position of chief, would

705
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Speaker 5: be supportive and get those things done.

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Speaker 3: She knows it takes a team of people, so.

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Speaker 5: All the personnel that implemented it under her guidance are

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Speaker 5: again appreciated by her. It's not just a new gadget's

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Speaker 5: a fundamental shift. And how it keeps officers in our

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Speaker 5: community safe shift. CHIEFDG. Champion, she navigated through the complex

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Speaker 5: regulations and successfully lost just months before or her removal.

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Speaker 3: It's a drone program. The concept is simple, Mike.

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Speaker 5: When a nine one one call comes in, whether it's

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Speaker 5: reporting the shooting, burglary, progress, missing child, a drone piloted

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Speaker 5: by Cincinnati Police officers immediately dispatched from a roofed up

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00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 5: docking station. Because it flies to crow flies, it often

717
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 5: arives in the scene before patrol car. It's a technology

718
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Speaker 5: and a tool that will continue to grow and continue

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Speaker 5: to enhance and continue to improve the police services while

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Speaker 5: minimizing or reducing the amount of law enforcement time it

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Speaker 5: takes to arrive and conduct what businesses, which then allows

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Speaker 5: for officers to be in the areas of assignment more longer,

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Speaker 5: more frequently, and quicker.

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Speaker 3: It's a technology.

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Speaker 5: It's an awesome technology, and it came under the guidance

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Speaker 5: of cheap DJ right. And the point of that, Mike

727
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Speaker 5: and I could read an entire article on it, but

728
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Speaker 5: that's the gist of it, and we can get deeper.

729
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 5: The point of this is we're here today to speak

730
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Speaker 5: fact verse fiction. You know the facts are there are

731
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Speaker 5: seven eighty nine successful leadership items that we have authored

732
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Speaker 5: and we have placed on these support Chief DG Facebook page,

733
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Speaker 5: and that you've been kind enough to allow us to

734
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Speaker 5: discuss deeper today as opposed to the mythical effective narrative

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00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 5: the city administration has placed on terror.

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Speaker 1: And still looking to find a quote reason unquote to

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Speaker 1: terminate her, which is just I've already said my piece

738
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Speaker 1: on that.

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Speaker 3: Now You're percent right.

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Speaker 5: But you know, the drone, the technology, the availability of resources.

741
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Speaker 5: She is not only open to them, she aggresses aggressively

742
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Speaker 5: pursued them. She aggressively identifies funding for them. She aggressively

743
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Speaker 5: identifies the appropriate team to get them, implement and get

744
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 5: them out there and get them where they're beneficial.

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Speaker 3: That is one.

746
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Speaker 5: And I'll just go down if I could mic real

747
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 5: quick on just a couple others, and then we can go.

748
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Speaker 3: Deeper on each of them.

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Speaker 1: But on the drones, I mean, I want to make

750
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Speaker 1: this point. I've had Ken Cobra on. I know I've

751
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: had others on too. CPD is a model for other

752
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: police departments across the country for these drone Am I

753
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: right about that?

754
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I am.

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Speaker 5: You're right, Yeah, Mike, it's it's a national model, it's active,

756
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 5: and it's beneficial. And I'll say it again, it came

757
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 5: under the guidance, leadership, management and oversight of Cheap DG

758
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Speaker 5: during her tenure. What it's about officer safety and citizen safety,

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Speaker 5: is it not?

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Speaker 3: I mean both. You look at certain.

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Speaker 5: Calls for service, such as shots fired, you get a

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Speaker 5: drone there quicker than a patrol officer would typically arrive.

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Speaker 3: You get that bird's eye view.

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Speaker 5: You have tracking mechanisms, you have viewing mechanisms, you have

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Speaker 5: communications mechanisms. So those officers that then are responding can

766
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Speaker 5: respond in a safer and to some degree even a

767
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 5: quicker because they know exactly what route to take, exactly

768
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Speaker 5: what path to take. They identify who the potential victims are,

769
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Speaker 5: they identify who the potential suspects are, and it allows

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Speaker 5: for a safer approach, a safer resolution, and a quicker resolution.

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Speaker 1: I get it. And you know, you guys all been

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Speaker 1: police officers for so long. I would think that if

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Speaker 1: you're a police officer responding to a call, a pretty

774
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Speaker 1: serious call, kind of nice to know what you're going into.

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Speaker 5: And the drone provides that. It's unfathomable to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean the fact that I'm not into technology, and

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Speaker 5: thank goodness, Terry and others within the department now are

778
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Speaker 5: they can grow these tools and take make the benefits

779
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Speaker 5: of the tools, or use the tools to benefit operations.

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Speaker 7: I got to believe that this system will morph into

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Speaker 7: many more systems throughout Hamilton County.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and beyond. You know, tristate so designer standard.

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Speaker 1: A lot of departments all over the country are contacting

784
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Speaker 1: CPD because they're a leader in it, and they're a

785
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Speaker 1: leader in it for a reason, and that is our

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Speaker 1: police chief in my humble opinion. Another thing, and you

787
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Speaker 1: guys provided me with this and these are all so

788
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Speaker 1: well written and so accurate.

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Speaker 3: The range, the target range doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Sound like a sexy issue, doesn't sound like something that's

791
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Speaker 1: that big of a deal. But I mean, going back

792
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Speaker 1: to the Dark Ages a short period of time I

793
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: was on it was kind of a hot potato back then,

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Speaker 1: and it just kind of sat. And there has been

795
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Speaker 1: reporting on this, but tell us how cheap Fiji kind

796
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Speaker 1: of finally solved this nagging problem after years and years

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Speaker 1: and years.

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Speaker 5: She took ownership of it. Mike, it was neglected for

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Speaker 5: over twenty years. Residents and community reps from Lincoln Heights, Woodlawn,

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Speaker 5: Evendale complained to the city administration about the target range

801
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Speaker 5: located in Evendale. Some of the catarrans identify were trauma,

802
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 5: mental health effects on children, physical health impacts from consistent

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Speaker 5: high decibel fire gunfire, and confusion acts about whether sounds

804
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Speaker 5: were from range or actual gunfire. While no other administration

805
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 5: had the forethought or vision or the benefit guarded from

806
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Speaker 5: relocating the target range, sheep Terry did. She had to

807
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 5: work ethic, leadership, traits, comprehension and long term benefit, and

808
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 5: the ability to bring a state, county and local partners

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Speaker 5: together for funding input to accomplish the dawning task is

810
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Speaker 5: through numerous tumultuous meetings. I had talked to her while

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Speaker 5: this process was. It went on for years, well involving her.

812
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Speaker 5: It wasn't as young as that when she took the

813
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Speaker 5: steps to achieve it. They were briefer, but yes, it

814
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Speaker 5: was years and years in the coming. The funding was

815
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Speaker 5: secure and the properties identified, you know, partnerships it took

816
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Speaker 5: to to provide it. It came about and now there's

817
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Speaker 5: a new state of the art target range. Which is

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Speaker 5: actually a regional safety complex when you think about it,

819
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Speaker 5: is other pds are going to use it too, right, Yes,

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Speaker 5: it's in partnership with Cincinnati and Hamilon County. Obviously those

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Speaker 5: other agencies that fall under the umbrella of that will

822
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Speaker 5: be able to get full benefit from it as well.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know the funding source of the project.

824
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Speaker 5: You know, there's various funding sources that came in and

825
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 5: it took numerous meetings, numerous, oh I can imagine. But

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Speaker 5: with that said, all came about under Cheap DG's tenure.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: The Target Range not on Miami River Road, officially opened

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Speaker 5: in October of twenty four, you know, and I apologize.

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Speaker 5: It was begun in October twenty four, projected for completion

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Speaker 5: in twenty six. So during her you know, speaking on

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Speaker 5: the range which I used every year with the Sheriff's department,

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Speaker 5: the water system was atrocious down there, and that was

834
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Speaker 5: another concern that the Terry head quite a bit going

835
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Speaker 5: into there was the water system, and that in fact

836
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Speaker 5: was adamant that it was city water. What have you

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Speaker 5: to for the troops for safety mechanism, you know, for

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Speaker 5: for health, for drinking the water. So that was a

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Speaker 5: big deal to her before she would sign any paperwork

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Speaker 5: in that I mean a really big deal deal.

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Speaker 1: And I know and Russ mentioned it a big deal

842
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: for the neighboring people too. And again, that issue has

843
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: been around, even going back to the seventies when I

844
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: was on So you.

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Speaker 5: Think about it, Mike, in two and a half, three

846
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 5: years just on that topic alone and enhanced the lives

847
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 5: of several communities on the border of Cincinnati. Right, improves

848
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 5: the equality of training obtained by law enforcement throughout Hamilton County,

849
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 5: and obviously that then provides a better service to the

850
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 5: communities that are served. In two and a half years, Mike,

851
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 5: she took one topic such as this that had been

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00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 5: lamiting for twenty plus minutes, and she saw the vision,

853
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 5: she saw the benefits, she saw the goal, she saw

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00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 5: where it could be, and she achieved it.

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Speaker 3: And I go back to.

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00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 5: Effective leadership versus mythical ineffective leadership. Right, we speak facts,

857
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 5: they speak subjectivity.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you're getting your message out and I'm happy

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Speaker 1: to be a part of that. One of the things

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Speaker 1: in policing today, and I'm sure you guys know, is

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Speaker 1: retention and recruiting. I was talking at ken cole Or

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Speaker 1: not too long ago, told me, I guess the CPD

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Speaker 1: had authorization and money for a class. I think, he said,

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Speaker 1: I think thirty. But they haven't started the class yet

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Speaker 1: because they can't find thirty people, which is and you

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Speaker 1: guys are probably way, not way a little bit behind you.

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Speaker 1: But I remember taking that test and we hadn't take

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Speaker 1: it twice because we got laid off. At the convention center.

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Speaker 1: There were two three thousand people there. It just amazes

870
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Speaker 1: me how that has changed in a relatively short period

871
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: of time. It's a real challenge now for departments to

872
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: find people that want to do the job. So whoever

873
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: wants to speak to that, I think it's really important.

874
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 3: Mike, I will.

875
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 8: This issue was growing for some time the police departments

876
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 8: kind of aging out right. Retirements were coming, and along

877
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 8: those same lines retirements coming, you had a bit of

878
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 8: anti police of sorts through It was building throughout the country, right,

879
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 8: So this taste of wanting to be an officer like

880
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 8: any of us three including yourself before us, that flavor

881
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 8: started to fade. And when you don't have the bodies coming,

882
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 8: but yet you have the bodies leaving, that leaves you

883
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 8: short and there's an ill effect in that, and there's

884
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 8: a variety of ill effects, one of them being you

885
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 8: can't always do what you want to do as a

886
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 8: police department because you don't have the bodies. You start

887
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 8: taking away from some things or forcing things into officers'

888
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 8: hands that they didn't necessarily do years ago. So from

889
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 8: an officer standpoint, that time off a little bit of

890
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 8: a mandatory overtime. All of those ill effects start leaving

891
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 8: a bad taste in their mouths, and those bad tastes

892
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 8: make it to their own residence.

893
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: Right.

894
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 8: So Terry had this that approached her and she had

895
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 8: to encounter in the way of bringing some light to it.

896
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 8: So the one thing she started with is an enhancement,

897
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 8: not new enhancement, of a wellness project or wellness thought

898
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 8: for the officers. She knew what they were going through.

899
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 8: So that's something that she took with live fingers into

900
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 8: her decision and leadership, if I may, well. The other piece,

901
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 8: Mike is you know the way you get retention, the

902
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 8: way you bring people in, because you can't change the

903
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 8: thought around the country overnight on police work, you start

904
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 8: compensating for what it is that they're going to encounter, right,

905
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 8: so she really took a bit of a leadership role,

906
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 8: if I may, to keep going in the contract, and

907
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 8: she sits on the city side some of that, but

908
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 8: she also tasted and understood the officer side, so she

909
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 8: was able to kind of financially enhance what it is

910
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 8: an officer is presented financially to come on, because you

911
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 8: need to really bring people's attention to the police department

912
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 8: to bypass the ill effects, the bad taste. Right, So

913
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 8: that's something she took on and quite honestly, the contract

914
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 8: says she was very successful at it. The contract says,

915
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 8: so when you take that retention need, the wellness piece,

916
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 8: the drawing the attention of a financial reward, if I may,

917
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 8: for what's never rewarded high enough, never will be, Terry

918
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 8: took that into what needed to be done, and I

919
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 8: think the outcome on paper was a success. And you

920
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 8: don't do that not caring. You don't do that without

921
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 8: being a leader for this city, for your officers, because

922
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 8: it's a balance and she balanced it well in my opinion,

923
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 8: and until until we get those numbers up, and she

924
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 8: had a goal of so many officers for so many

925
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 8: years to get to get us there.

926
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: Okay, can you guys stay for the next segment. I

927
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: really hope you can, because we got a lot more

928
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: to cover. We're out of time now for this segment

929
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: that will come back after the news. Mike Allen's Saturday

930
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: Midnight seven hundred WLW Mike Allman Saturday Midday talking to

931
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: various members of the Neville family, and we're talking about

932
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: the situation with Chief Fiji.

933
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 3: I was still trying to come up with a reason

934
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 3: to get rid of her.

935
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: They're not having a lot of luck doing that, and

936
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty obvious why. In my humble opinion,

937
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: and I haven't been on CPD for a million years,

938
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: but I watch it. In my opinion, she was one

939
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: hell of a police chief. One thing I wanted to

940
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: ask you, Russ, the combination of District three into District five.

941
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: When I saw that happening, I thought, Man, what a

942
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: logistical nightmare this is going to be. And Chief Sigi

943
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: was right in the middle of that. What are your

944
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 1: thoughts on that? And I know it wasn't just those

945
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: two merging. Other districts were affected as well.

946
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,959
Speaker 3: I guess what happened, Mike, was.

947
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 5: District five used to be on Central Party, right there

948
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 5: were structural issues. And beyond there, well, they had a

949
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 5: range in the basement, didn't they. That was many many

950
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 5: many moons ago. That was not during even my career,

951
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 5: that was not active. But so when that issue developed, however,

952
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 5: many years ago, they transitioned District five to a strip

953
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 5: mall in College Hill. That facility was too small, but

954
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 5: they made it work. However, many years they were there,

955
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 5: the lease was expiring, and as the lease was expiring, like,

956
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 5: there was no plan by the city administration on what

957
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 5: they were going to do regarding a new District five.

958
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 5: So once again, effective leadership, strong leadership, the willingness to

959
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 5: take on the difficult task. Terry took that on and

960
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 5: they came to the conclusion that the best option was

961
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 5: to consolidate districts. And I'm the first to say, we're

962
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 5: the first to say that not all of it was

963
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 5: received well and not all of it is as successful

964
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 5: as you may want, but it is the best in

965
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 5: the best option available. So what she did is she

966
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 5: what she with a team of folks, was the consolidation

967
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 5: from five districts to four districts. In the long run,

968
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 5: there's geographical changes, there's community impact, there's community meetings. But

969
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 5: the bottom line of all of it is the operations

970
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 5: of the department remained strong. There was no reduction in

971
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 5: staff of any sort. There was no loss of rank

972
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 5: of any member in the organization. As this consolidation of heard,

973
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 5: services continue to be provided and they continue to be

974
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 5: provided today, and it saved the city approximately i'd say

975
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 5: twenty thirty forty million dollars in the potential of building

976
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 5: a new District five. So I just go back to Mike.

977
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 5: We all have our detractors, We all have people that

978
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 5: don't agree with decisions we make and maybe even the

979
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 5: way we make them, and Terry potentially falls under that

980
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 5: as well. But you cannot shy away from the myth

981
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 5: that is out there or the narrative they are trying

982
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 5: to portray is she was an ineffective leader.

983
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: It's obvious to anyone that looks at it, even casually,

984
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: I think, and that's leadership, isn't it. I Mean, sometimes

985
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: things don't go always as planned, especially in policing. But

986
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean saving the city that much money, that's a

987
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: pretty big deal.

988
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 5: Not only saving the city the money, and yes, that's

989
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 5: critically important, but the resources were relocated to benefit the communities.

990
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 5: The allocation was successful. Nobody lost their job, Mike, nobody

991
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 5: lost rank or positioning. So to take that upon with

992
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 5: the risk of all of that and succeed, two thumbs

993
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 5: up to her. And I just keep going back to

994
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 5: that and so on the District five or the city

995
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 5: district consolidation. That's kind of an overview, and they're gist

996
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 5: of the circumstances.

997
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 3: I get it. Well.

998
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: One of the things that I'm hearing and a lot

999
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: of people in the system are hearing citizens too, is

1000
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: the situation, uh with judges and you know, the change

1001
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: of how the courthouse is. Chief Fiji was I mean

1002
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: active in monitoring that. I guess what did she do

1003
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: from a leadership perspective on that, because it's a big issue. Well,

1004
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean she was a participant with other county law

1005
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: enforcement agencies to put together a body that would make

1006
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: it public information or accountability on judges, on sentences and bonds,

1007
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: and just to make it transparency, provide transparency. That board

1008
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: continues to operate even with Chief Diji removed, but it

1009
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: was her initiation that brought it and I we are

1010
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: of the opinion that was one of the significant, significant

1011
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: elements that led to her administrative suspension. They can hide

1012
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: from it, they can deny it, they can lie about it,

1013
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: but it's fact. And even the Hamion County Chiefs Association,

1014
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: I believe is what they're called, recently publicly thanked and

1015
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: gave credit to Chief Diji for bringing that board or

1016
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: that body together to try to improve the judicial process

1017
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: for the benefit of the public, for the benefit of

1018
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: what kind of sentences are people really getting and what

1019
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: kind of releases and early releases are people really receiving

1020
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: and the people in the public have the right for

1021
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: transparency on that, and it wasn't received well from the

1022
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: inner circles. Got you one thing I wanted to ask

1023
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: you about, peripherally relevant. I think issue five back in

1024
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: the year two thousand, that was an issue that got

1025
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: on the ballot where they would remove the chief and

1026
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: the assistant chiefs from civil service protection. I was prosecutor

1027
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: at the time I worked on the campaign. Anyone who

1028
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: spent any time in the system knew that that was

1029
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 1: going to be a disaster. The chief, as I said,

1030
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: and the assistant chiefs back then had civil service protection.

1031
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: Chief Theji didn't. She's at the whim of politicians I

1032
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: just wanted to bring that up to see if any

1033
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: you wanted to comment on that, because I hope, I

1034
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: hope we see it back on the ballot again.

1035
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 7: I don't, I don't the three of us collectively agree

1036
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 7: with you one hundred percent. The issue five has had

1037
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 7: has its at its time. I don't think it's been successful.

1038
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 7: I think Chief Striker is the last one yet Fellow

1039
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 7: without it, and then you had, you know, three four chiefs,

1040
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 7: what have you.

1041
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 3: I think it's time for City Council to.

1042
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 7: Do what's proper and maybe put it however it takes,

1043
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 7: to put it back on a ballot, referendum, whatever the

1044
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 7: case may be. This is very much a hot topic

1045
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 7: for us and support the fop's desires for that. In fact,

1046
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 7: I think it would just make the department stronger. It

1047
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 7: would make the fire department stronger, whatever you want to say,

1048
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 7: because because when you have one person making a decision

1049
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 7: for such a important aspect of first responders and citizen safety,

1050
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 7: it's not good. So I would say call out City

1051
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 7: Council a little bit to say we need to rethink this.

1052
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the current political makeup of the city, it

1053
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: would be an uphill battle, but I still think it

1054
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: could be done if people are educated as to what

1055
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: it is.

1056
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 3: Well, uphill battle is one thing, right and wrongs another.

1057
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's absolutely And those that knew knew this was

1058
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: going to be a train wreck, and I think it

1059
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: just barely passed back then.

1060
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 3: I mean it was really close.

1061
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: We got about five more minutes, and I want to

1062
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: talk about what you guys want to talk about, So

1063
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: you guys can make the closing argument if you.

1064
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 5: Will, Mike and Rick and follow this. But I think again,

1065
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 5: why we're here is not to draw attention to the

1066
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 5: nevils or the thegs beyond chief role, dignity, reputation. This

1067
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 5: is not about monetary This is about the ability to

1068
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 5: leave a thirty five year career with your head held

1069
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 5: high with the facts known. Yep, not speculation, not sour grapes,

1070
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 5: but facts. And why we're here today is present those facts,

1071
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 5: and hopefully the public listening to your program understands, appreciates,

1072
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 5: and accepts those facts as they are valid and we

1073
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,959
Speaker 5: have the ability to show support for them. It's reputation, Mike,

1074
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 5: and she deserves better. They stole it from her. Yeah,

1075
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 5: they stole from her the opportunity to enjoy retirement. They

1076
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 5: stole from her the opportunity to spend her days peacefully

1077
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 5: with her grandchildren without this being on her mind and

1078
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 5: in her gut. It's an ebb and flow every day.

1079
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 5: And we will continue to fight on behalf of Terry,

1080
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 5: and we will continue to provide facts and see where

1081
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 5: this goes.

1082
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: I think you've done an incredible job so far, and

1083
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a very important thing. You can even

1084
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: boil it down further. I think it's right and wrong.

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Speaker 1: You don't do a person like that. You don't do

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Speaker 1: a chief of police with all the years of service

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Speaker 1: that she has had. You just don't do it, you know,

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Speaker 1: because of a political issue to say yes, sorry, chief,

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Speaker 1: you got to go, Well why do I have to go?

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll figure it out. I mean, it's just not right.

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Speaker 7: Everything you have in front of you, and everything we've

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Speaker 7: talked about has been shared with plump Street. Whether they're

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Speaker 7: reading them or not, I can't answer that. I gotta

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Speaker 7: believe they read their emails, so they've got this information,

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Speaker 7: and I have to believe the majority of them're center

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Speaker 7: going what do we just do?

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 8: Am, I I mean closer with sure, there's one thing

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Speaker 8: about leadership, right, and Terry's a phenomenal leader, And I'll

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Speaker 8: leave it at that.

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Speaker 3: You said twelve.

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Speaker 1: You know, based upon what I have seen, you know,

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Speaker 1: being in the system, I would agree with you wholeheartedly.

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Speaker 1: And I really really love it that this family is

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Speaker 1: not taking this line down because something should be done

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Speaker 1: about it, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I know you.

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Speaker 1: Guys aren't political, but when the city of Cincinnati becomes

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Speaker 1: such that only one party can have any input into anything,

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Speaker 1: that's not a good thing anywhere.

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Speaker 3: And it wouldn't be a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Of his all Republicans too, But law enforcement in this

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Speaker 1: city and the Cincinnati Police Department, in my humble opinion,

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Speaker 1: is something special, something good that has been recognized throughout

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Speaker 1: the years, going all the way back when Stanchrotel was

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Speaker 1: on the cover of Life magazine. I was honored to

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Speaker 1: be a part of it in a very short period

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Speaker 1: of time. But and again it boils down to, in

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Speaker 1: my humble opinion, you just can't do.

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Speaker 5: People like this, you know, go back to our opening point, Mike,

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Speaker 5: based on that statement of Terry's one percent support for

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Speaker 5: the CINCINNTI Police Department, the success of the Cincinnati Police

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Speaker 5: Department the success of those that are administrative positions. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 5: the safety of the community, the mental wellness of the

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Speaker 5: members all fall in their hands, and we have one

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Speaker 5: hundred percent support and faith in them to do it

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Speaker 5: successfully well for.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it's worth.

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Speaker 1: The circles I travel in, they see this for what

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Speaker 1: it is, just a political kind of BS thing. So

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Speaker 1: I think you have the public on your side. I

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Speaker 1: am so impressed. I drive down the street and I

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Speaker 1: see we support Chief Thiji. I never, am my wildest dreams,

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Speaker 1: would have thought at chief of police in the city

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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati would have to do that. But and the

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Speaker 1: T shirts as well. You guys are doing a hell

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Speaker 1: of a job with it. I mean that too. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not the only one saying that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. It means a lot my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we got to take a break, but we'll be back.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back and we'll start talking about the president's

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Speaker 1: news conference, which is scheduled for a lot sven o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Mike Allan sat