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Speaker 1: Minneapolis and its residents have been nominated for the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six Nobel Peace Prize by the progressive news outlet

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Speaker 1: The Nation, Because why not.

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Speaker 2: It's to the point of parody.

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Speaker 1: Twin City's News Talk Hour two for a Thursday Glad

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Speaker 1: you are with the show this morning? Eight four four

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Speaker 1: nine four six five eighty five to five is the

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Speaker 1: phone number Justice at iHeartRadio dot com, and of course

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Speaker 1: it will take your talk back from the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: All morning longs are brought to you by Lyndahl Realty.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: I don't live in Minneapolis, but I work in and

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Speaker 4: around Minneapolis, and I don't feel very included that I

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Speaker 4: wasn't and we're nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. How

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Speaker 4: do they explain that one that the party of inclusivity.

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Speaker 4: Shouldn't it just be everybody should get it?

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Speaker 1: Maybe I should create a Justice Dunce Prize. I have

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Speaker 1: a nominee coming up in the talkbacks here in just

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Speaker 1: a moment I mentioned last hour, there's an editorial in

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Speaker 1: the Star Tribune that we will get to you later

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Speaker 1: on in the show.

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Speaker 2: David M.

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Speaker 1: Perry asked the question. It doesn't answer it, I'll give

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Speaker 1: you the I'm not going to spoil this for you.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't really get to an answer on this, but

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Speaker 1: he asked, what is it okay to compare aspects of

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Speaker 1: what's happening in Minnesota to Nazi Germany. I can answer

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Speaker 1: that you don't need this lengthy garbage editorials. I know

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Speaker 1: the answer.

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Speaker 2: It kind of never is.

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Speaker 1: It really is diminishing the horrific nature of that which

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Speaker 1: you are associating modern times with that there is no comparison,

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Speaker 1: and don't take it from me. Listen to this comment

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Speaker 1: from the iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Good Morning, John Devin.

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Speaker 5: My stepfather was born and raised in Nazi Germany during

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Speaker 5: Adolf Hitler's terror throughout Europe, and he would tell you

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Speaker 5: with vivid clarity what it's like as a four or

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Speaker 5: five year old to see people hanging in the square

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Speaker 5: or to be executed without reason. And they were on

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Speaker 5: the run most of the time because they were dark

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Speaker 5: haired and were considered gypsies. And these people have enough

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Speaker 5: audacity to compare Ice to Nazis.

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Speaker 2: They are sick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they are sick, And thank you for the talkback, Scott.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, they have easy lives. The fact that

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Speaker 1: all of these anti ice protesters. What I'm going to

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Speaker 1: share with you here in just a moment of elected

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Speaker 1: official superintendents and schools continuing to attempt to perpetuate this

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Speaker 1: anti ice false narrative here in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: If what we were dealing with was.

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Speaker 1: Akin to any of the labels that are put out

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Speaker 1: there by Governor Tim Walls and everybody else's editorial, when

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Speaker 1: is it okay to use Nazi terminology the Walls calling

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Speaker 1: them the Gestapo, they wouldn't be able.

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Speaker 2: To do all of these things that were highlighting on

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 1: All right, before we get to Minnesota, educators districts sue

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Speaker 1: to stop ice enforcement near schools. That's the key on

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Speaker 1: this near schools, because it hasn't really been happening inside

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Speaker 1: of schools. I want to go back to the iHeart

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Speaker 1: Radio app this morning. This it's a part of your

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Speaker 1: never ending parade? Is Stupid today?

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Speaker 6: John and jessic selfacur Hey, did you remind your stupid

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Speaker 6: listeners that there medical examiner has ruled alex pretty.

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Speaker 7: Murder a homicide.

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Speaker 8: They say homicide is ruled by the medical examiner in Minnesota,

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Speaker 8: So talk about that. Man and jd vance with this

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Speaker 8: high eyeliner make the fun guy, the moron.

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Speaker 7: Jd Vance be the tool of guy.

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Speaker 2: I have a good day. He calls you stupid. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna take that. It's my favorite from Phil.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna talk about this thing. You're not talking about that.

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Speaker 1: I want to criticize that. I think you should talk

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Speaker 1: about that homicide ruling or labeling. It was made by

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Speaker 1: the Hennepen County Medical Examiner's Office. I expect nothing lesson.

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be taken with any level of seriousness. This

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Speaker 1: is being investigated at the federal level, and that those

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Speaker 2: That those agents were wrong in what they did.

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Speaker 1: Right, they need to face consequences, but let the investigation

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Speaker 1: bear out. But just imagine, well you don't have to

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Speaker 1: he did jd Vance in his eyeliner. He's not going

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Speaker 1: to talk about anything the jd Van said, because that

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Speaker 1: forward to President jd Vance. All right, your talkbacks are

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Speaker 1: rolling in. We'll get to some of these coming up

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Speaker 1: in just a moment. Let's go here. If you thought

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Speaker 1: for a moment that Democrats were gonna let the draw down.

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Speaker 2: Of the ICE agents here in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: The coordination now taking place as Governor Tim Walls and

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Speaker 1: Ellison have caved on a number of different issues. If

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Speaker 1: you thought that they were going to let this ease tensions, oh,

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Speaker 1: you would be wrong.

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Speaker 2: Cannot let a crisis go to waste.

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Speaker 1: Here's this story from Fox nine about how schools and

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Speaker 1: educators are looking to sue Ice to stop enforcement near schools.

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Speaker 2: Here's the story from Fox nine.

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Speaker 9: Well, these public school officials are asking that dhs to

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Speaker 9: be forced to revert to a long standing policy that

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Speaker 9: prohibited them from stepping foot near a school or bust up.

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Speaker 9: That policy in place for decades, was thrown out when

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Speaker 9: the current administry came into office.

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Speaker 10: We need this to stop, and we need this to

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Speaker 10: stop immediately.

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Speaker 9: Minnesota educators are taking a stand calling on federal immigration

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Speaker 11: Our students can't learn, our educators can't teach, and when

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Speaker 11: there are massed armed agents outside of classroom windows, sometimes

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Speaker 11: for days and days, that leaves our students and educators traumatized.

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Speaker 1: Now, what leaves the students and educators traumatized is that you,

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Speaker 1: adults around the children, can't ignore what is happening. That

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Speaker 1: the children would not even be exposed to you. Guys,

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Speaker 1: can't shut up about it. You're encouraging them to make

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Speaker 1: origami bunnies that Governor Tim Walls can go and use

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Speaker 1: as props during press conferences.

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Speaker 2: He did that earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: If you missed yesterday show, I got to hear the

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Speaker 1: the eight o'clock hour. They created this disaster with the children.

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Speaker 1: If anything, I think the parents should be suing Minnesota

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Speaker 1: educators in the districts for perpetuating the propaganda if there

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Speaker 1: is any actual fear within the schools. By the way,

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Speaker 1: one mt're just a quick point on what Phil said.

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Speaker 1: Homic Phil All, homicide means is death at the hand

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Speaker 1: of another. So it's not the own that you think

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Speaker 1: this story from Fox nine.

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Speaker 9: Both the Fridley and Dlute school districts joining the state's

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Speaker 10: It is pure and present evil and we are denying

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Speaker 9: Fridley School officials claim attendance has dropped nearly one third

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Speaker 9: since the start of Operation Metro Surge, while Duluth says

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Speaker 9: on emergency planning, harming their ability to provide a safe

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Speaker 9: and stable learning environment. All this, as they say, school

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Speaker 9: leaders who speak out are being retaliated against.

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Speaker 10: A board member of ours was followed from her residence

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Speaker 10: with her three year old child in the back of

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Speaker 10: way to her child's stakecare. Okay, why this is happening?

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Speaker 2: Okay, hold hold.

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Speaker 1: The whole timeout, tipeout flag on the field, just whatever

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Speaker 2: Is this a thing now?

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Speaker 1: Because I know there's a whole bunch of idiots that

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Speaker 1: alex or at least provide me the proper context. The

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Speaker 1: fact that you have all of these stories without the

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Speaker 1: relevant context. It tells you what you need to know

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Speaker 1: about how ICE is actually operating. You would think that

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Speaker 1: and they just they don't. We were they were followed.

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Speaker 1: How do you know it was Ice? Well, I don't.

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Speaker 1: But there was a car. There was a car. I

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Speaker 1: and then it followed me to where I dropped my

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Speaker 1: could have just been somebody who was driving on the

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Speaker 2: Off of sixty five on one hundred and twenty fifth.

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Speaker 1: And have it because it happens all the time, right

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Speaker 1: because I live in a neighborhood and somebody who's actually

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Speaker 2: Somebody followed me. It was a car, ba it was

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Speaker 2: Carball is behind me and follow me.

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Speaker 1: I use my turn signal. They turned, They didn't turn

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Speaker 10: Who because I am telling the truth on behalf of

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Speaker 9: And it's that fear of retaliation that those officials say

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Speaker 9: is why there are only two districts listed as plaintiffs

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Speaker 9: on this lawsuit in Saint Paul Tonight Courney, god Free,

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Speaker 9: Fox nine.

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Speaker 2: We have more UH to cover regarding this.

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Speaker 1: I have a further audio to UH to share because

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Speaker 1: Democrats keep trying to equate what's happening right now to COVID.

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Speaker 2: For some reason, there was this.

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Speaker 1: Really bad thing that we all had to endure that

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Speaker 1: much we hate this thing that's happening by pointing and

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Speaker 1: comparing it to something that you used to hate. Also,

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Speaker 1: a few of you have responded to Phil calling is stupid.

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Speaker 12: Boy.

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Speaker 7: Phil is so smart.

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Speaker 4: He called John Justice's listeners stupid, yet he listens every

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Speaker 4: single day, which means he called himself stupid.

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Speaker 5: Are these days?

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Speaker 1: That's a really great point, all right. I have a

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Speaker 1: covering the story about how Minnesota educators in districts are

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Speaker 1: trying to.

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Speaker 2: Sue ICE.

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Speaker 1: To get them to stop activity near their schools. Suddenly

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Speaker 1: now there's all of these stories of.

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Speaker 1: Candidate Socket Wrench Ryan Winkler played it earlier in the

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Speaker 1: insurrection training that he was doing and claiming there was an.

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Speaker 1: By the way, how was it suddenly all these individuals,

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Speaker 2: How did you know? It was a nice view of court?

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Speaker 1: Murder a homicide, right, and homicide just means at the

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Speaker 1: The superintendent of Duluthe Public Schools says ICE is having

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Speaker 2: He's right. It is manufactured. It is a choice.

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Speaker 2: I have a stack. I have it planned for later today.

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Speaker 1: I had it sayed it for earlier in the show,

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Speaker 2: That is a big part of it. But you have.

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Speaker 1: You're out of touch, delusional, broken and brainwashed parents that

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis City Council committee delays liquor licenses for two hotels

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Speaker 1: But speaking the teachers and the controversy surrounding ice, I

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Hey John.

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Speaker 15: It is absolutely annoying. How bent out of shape all

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Speaker 15: My students. They all are misinformed When I tell them

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Speaker 15: They look at me like I have a third arm

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Speaker 2: They have what's called a Trump derangement problem. Have you

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Speaker 16: Good morning John the keeping Forest Lake It's been a while,

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Speaker 16: love your show. Thank you for coming to work. I

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Speaker 14: Thank you again.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Thank you, Vicky. Just two people listen to

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Speaker 1: Before we get to a lawyer? Extraordinair Jeff O'Brien on

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Speaker 17: Hey John Damn from Lake City. Hey, Dan, Sunday is

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Speaker 17: helping my buddy take his ice shack out and my

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Speaker 7: Ice is watching you. No kidding, true story.

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Speaker 1: Pretty arrogant to think that Ice has following you around

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Speaker 1: like you're that special lawyer extraordinair Jeff O'Brien. Has Ice

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 14: No, I have not.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little jealous.

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis Sydney Council Committee delayed action on Tuesday on renewing

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Speaker 1: liquor licenses for two Minneapolis hotels that have housed federal

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Speaker 12: They do this?

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Speaker 1: I mean, this sounds a lot like discrimination to me.

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, John, you know, I do a lot

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Speaker 12: And they also mentioned that you need actual facts to

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Speaker 12: the wrong side of some political issues that they and

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Speaker 12: they behave like this.

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Speaker 1: Well, as you mentioned talking with lawyer sun Or Jeff

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Speaker 1: O'Brien Amy Lingo, the city's manager for business licenses, so

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Speaker 1: the hotels can continue to serve liquor until a decision

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Speaker 1: is made by the council.

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Speaker 2: The five no votes.

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Speaker 1: Came from council members who worried the council has no

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Speaker 1: grounds to deny the renewals. One of them said that

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Speaker 1: she'd received many emails from people about the licensed renewals,

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Speaker 1: but she said the licensed renewals had nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with whose stays at the hotels and would be discriminatory.

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Speaker 1: She said, the Council shouldn't give people false hope that

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Speaker 1: the Council can deny the licenses. Why are we setting

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Speaker 1: ourselves up for another legal settlement. You know, I'm speaking

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Speaker 1: to what you were saying, Jeff. So it seems as if,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty obvious obvious if you have five

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Speaker 1: of this radical left wing council across the board that

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Speaker 1: are actually going and saying similar things to you, then

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Speaker 1: it would appear to me that, yeah, those other eight

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Speaker 1: council members are absolutely in the wrong and moving forward

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Speaker 1: on this.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, And then those comments just become fodder for you know,

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Speaker 12: legal action. And the interesting thing, John, is, you know

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Speaker 12: the the you know, the members of that council and

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Speaker 12: and and the folks and you know that kind of

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Speaker 12: similar ilk are always calling the president the dictator and

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Speaker 12: all these and you know, all these things, but you know,

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Speaker 12: this is the type of action you get in dictatorships

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Speaker 12: that the government choosing winners and losers and favoring some

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Speaker 12: businesses over others on a whim. I mean, this is

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Speaker 12: the kind of arbitrary decision making that you get in

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Speaker 12: a dictatorship. So it's kind of ironic that you know

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Speaker 12: that they criticize the federal government and at the same

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Speaker 12: time they're acting in the way that an actual dictator behaves.

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Speaker 1: Committee chair aun Child Hurry said she felt it was

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Speaker 1: important for the Council to have more discussion of the

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Speaker 1: licenses and give the public a chance to hear their stories.

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Speaker 1: She went on to say hundreds of constituents have reached

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Speaker 1: out about the hotels like it matters. She said that

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Speaker 1: the Council has revoked licenses before for problem businesses and

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Speaker 1: mentioned a case where a Border Patrol agent was arrested

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Speaker 1: on suspicion of drunken driving while assigned in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: I failed to see.

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Speaker 1: The connection here to her attempt at a justification for

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Speaker 1: for at least withholding these licenses, if let alone revoking

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Speaker 1: these licenses based off of how she talked about these

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Speaker 1: past problem cases in the case of this border patrol agent,

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Speaker 1: is there a thread there at all.

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Speaker 12: Jeff, Well, you know the reasons that having been through

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Speaker 12: this process for obtaining licenses and renewals, you know, the

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Speaker 12: grounds for for not renewing a liquor license are things like,

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Speaker 12: you know, a series of violations like let's just say, theoretically,

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Speaker 12: a you know, this this agent that was drunk and driving,

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Speaker 12: if if the if the license at the bar, a

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Speaker 12: restaurant or whoever he was over served him and had

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Speaker 12: a and and maybe had a had had multiple violations

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Speaker 12: for for overserving patrons or you you know, you get

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Speaker 12: you get an underage uh you know person you know

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Speaker 12: that they run a sting and they and they catch

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Speaker 12: somebody or or there's you know, there's got to be

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Speaker 12: some sort of Usually you'd have to have some adverse

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Speaker 12: a series of adverse actions from the licensing department and

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Speaker 12: the enforcement side of things before somebody would lose their

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Speaker 12: liquor license or not get it renewed. So it doesn't

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Speaker 12: sound like, you know, you know, if this doesn't sound

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Speaker 12: like it's there's any grounds whatsoever to again legal counsel

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Speaker 12: and staff that they meet the requirement. So obviously they

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Speaker 12: don't have a history of violations that would be that

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Speaker 12: would seem to me to justify not renewing their licenses.

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Speaker 12: So I don't think they have any legal grounds to

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Speaker 12: deny their licenses.

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Speaker 1: You know, we had a story just real quick, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: I know we didn't talk about this, but I played

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Speaker 1: audio from Fox nine. You've got Minnesota school districts that

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Speaker 1: are now suing an ICE for and wanting them to

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Speaker 1: stop enforcement near the near the schools.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you had a chance to hear that.

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Speaker 1: I just I was curious if you think that there's

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Speaker 1: any sort of legal precedence for these school districts to

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Speaker 1: actually sue to stop ICE from doing any sort of

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Speaker 1: law enforcement near the school, I'd have to imagine. Me

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Speaker 1: add one other part to it, I have to imagine

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Speaker 1: that based off of some of the rulings that have

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Speaker 1: taken place with the big lawsuits that like Keith Ellison

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Speaker 1: went and posed against the Trump administration trying to stop

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Speaker 1: Operation Metro Surge altogether, it would seem to me that

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Speaker 1: this would be a complete waste of time for school

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Speaker 1: districts because they're kind of arguing the same thing that

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Speaker 1: Keith Ellison was arguing.

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Speaker 12: Right, Yeah, I think it sounds like kind of an

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Speaker 12: argument in a similar vein and we know that it

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Speaker 12: was a it was a you know, the judge that

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Speaker 12: that went against that you know, kicked out, that denied

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Speaker 12: the injunctive relief for Ellison's lawsuit was Biden appointed federal judge.

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Speaker 12: And that everybody's read the opinion and you probably talked

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Speaker 12: about it. Some of the language that this is a

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Speaker 12: Biden appointee in the opinion says that Minnesota's sanctuary policies

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Speaker 12: basically created the chaos that we're dealing with, you know.

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Speaker 12: And so yeah, I don't see that. I mean, if

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Speaker 12: you can't win that one, I don't I don't see

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Speaker 12: why do it by by you know, doing enforcement near

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Speaker 12: a school is going to be any different than doing

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Speaker 12: enforcement in the state generally.

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Speaker 1: Lawyer extraordinaire, Jeff O'Brien, thanks for the time and the expertise,

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Speaker 1: and I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Good talking to me this morning.

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Speaker 12: Thanks for having me on, John, always good to be on.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the Minneapolis City Council, they're proposing a one

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Speaker 1: million dollar fund to be allocated to rental assistance to

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Speaker 1: those impacted by the immigration crackdown in the city. You

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Speaker 1: can file this under once again never let a crisis

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Speaker 1: go to waste, right in this case, never let a

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Speaker 1: manufacture crisis go to waste. City Council Minority Leader Robin

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Speaker 1: Wansley has authored a proposal that would allocate a.

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Speaker 2: Mind one million dollars one million.

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Speaker 1: Dollars for rental assistance for Minneapolis residents impacted by ICE.

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Speaker 1: The city council members say the immigration enforcement search has

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Speaker 1: made it difficult for families to go to work, with

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Speaker 1: some places being closed or having reduced to hours, or

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Speaker 1: fear of being stopped or followed by ice.

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Speaker 2: Have you been followed by ice? Have you been followed

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Speaker 2: by ice?

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Speaker 1: Leave me a talk back. I also want to know

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Speaker 1: how do you know it's ice. I'd like to be

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Speaker 1: followed by ice. I would just like to be followed

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Speaker 1: by ice. Pull over, talk to them, check their hands,

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Speaker 1: say thank you for what you do. The funds would

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Speaker 1: come from the city's contingency Fund, which would be transferred

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Speaker 1: to Hennepin County, who would send the funds to organizations

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Speaker 1: who help families in need. And this goes back to

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Speaker 1: what was said by the superintendent of this all just

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Speaker 1: feels like it feels like COVID people living in fear

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Speaker 1: and staying in their homes. And again, it's all manufactured.

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Speaker 1: They created this the situation, they did it intentionally. They

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Speaker 1: did it intentionally. It's all been pushed to hide fraud.

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Speaker 1: That's a portion of this. A portion of it has

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Speaker 1: been to hide the coverage of fraud. But as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of okay. I've been okay with that. The

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Speaker 1: pause in the fraud talk is not a bad thing

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Speaker 1: because it's going to come back around. As a matter

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Speaker 1: of fact, there was a hearing that took place. I

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Speaker 1: have a clip that I'll share with you from a

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Speaker 1: fraud chair person in a gubernatorial candidate, Christian Robbins, during

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Speaker 1: that committee hearing.

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Speaker 2: We'll we'll do that next hour.

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Speaker 1: No, this has all been completely manufactured to hide the fraud,

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Speaker 1: but to also create more arguments against the right. And

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Speaker 1: when they make moves like this again, they're trying not

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Speaker 1: to let this crisis.

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Speaker 2: Go to ways. Because you think that if they.

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Speaker 1: Were to give this million dollars for rental assistance, do

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Speaker 1: you think it's going to be a temporary thing.

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Speaker 2: No, of course not.

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Speaker 1: They'll end up creating some new program that will essentially

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Speaker 1: just be another way to redistribute the wealth.

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Speaker 2: It's all so incredibly predictable.

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Speaker 1: Keeping with the theme that Democrats have no intention of

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Speaker 1: ratcheting down the fear mongering Minneapolis officials. Another story from

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Speaker 1: Fox nine responding to the federal decision to reduce the

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Speaker 1: immigration enforcement officers in the state, Minneapolis man Baby Mayor

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Speaker 1: Mom Jeans, Jacob Fry, and Community Safety Commissioner Todd Barnett

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Speaker 1: voiced concerns over the continued presence of two thousand IA officers.

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Speaker 1: Barnett said, too many of our neighbors are feeling fear

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Speaker 1: and uncertainty in our community. Let me stop here again

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Speaker 1: and let me say, I don't care how you feel.

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Speaker 1: That is a choice that you are making to feel

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Speaker 1: that way. Stop listening to the people around you and

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Speaker 1: think for yourself for once about what is happening. I

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Speaker 1: know it doesn't matter when I say these comments. It's

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Speaker 1: because in my mind, I'm living in a world where

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Speaker 1: you can actually go and rationalize with people.

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Speaker 2: We don't live in that world anymore.

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Speaker 1: Man Baby Mayor Fry said, the draw down and bonding

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Speaker 1: cameras are a step in the right direction, but two

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Speaker 1: thousand ICE officers still here is not a de escalation. Well, sure,

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Speaker 1: it is there's some seven hundred officers that won't be

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Speaker 1: here anymore. That is less than the two thousand, and

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Speaker 1: therefore it's a de escalation. My message to the White

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Speaker 1: House has been consistent. Operation Metro Surge has been catastrophic

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Speaker 1: for our residents and businesses.

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Speaker 2: It needs to end immediately.

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Speaker 1: And it's only been catastrophic for your residences and your

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Speaker 1: businesses because you made it that way. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: police federation leaders critical of police tactics surrendering to politics.

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Speaker 1: David Zimmer has a peace in American experiment. It's often

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Speaker 1: said that when someone knowledgeable speaks out, we should listen.

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Speaker 1: In just the past week, the police Federation leaders representing

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Speaker 1: more than one thousand police officers from Minneapolis and Saint

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Speaker 1: Paul has spoken out in opposition to the political influence

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Speaker 1: over police tactics that.

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Speaker 2: Have harmed a true public safety.

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Speaker 1: You've got a statement from the Saint Paul Police Federation

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Speaker 1: president speaking to the New York Post. This would be

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Speaker 1: Mark Ross, who says the Minnesota local officers are trained

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Speaker 1: and equipped to provide crowd control and force protection. He

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Speaker 1: currently noted that such a service to ice would not

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Speaker 1: have put local officers in the role of enforcing immigration law.

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Speaker 1: It would have put them in the role of providing

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Speaker 1: true public say. You also had Minneapolis Police Federation President

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Speaker 1: Cheryl Schmidt issuing a statement critical of the activists, who

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Speaker 1: they say have put Minneapolis rank and file police officers

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Speaker 1: in an impossible situation. Schmidt implored the leaders to take

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Speaker 1: an assertive and aggressive stance on stopping the illegal blockades

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Speaker 1: and enforced laws before somebody gets seriously hurt. But make

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Speaker 1: no mistake any visual physical representation of the leader and

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Speaker 1: the party that they hate, Trump, Conservatives, Republicans, any physical representation,

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Speaker 1: any visual representation, will be exploited. The voices of the

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Speaker 1: rational like I just mentioned Saint Paul Police Federation President,

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Speaker 1: the Minneapolis Police Federation president, the voices and the knowledge

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Speaker 1: of the professionals that I just mentioned, they get third

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Speaker 1: tier billing in the media in favor of the voices

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Speaker 1: that are completely biased, irrational, agenda driven, and have no

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Speaker 1: expertise on the things that they are actually talking about.

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Speaker 1: What an example of this I have it for you.

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Speaker 1: I came across these clips as I was doing prep

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Speaker 1: this morning. It's from CBS. CBS News did a lengthy

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Speaker 1: piece regarding Operation Metro Surge talked to a number of

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Speaker 1: individuals here in the state, including Brooklyn Park, Minnesota Police

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Speaker 1: Chief Mark Bruley talking with CBS News. But listen to

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Speaker 1: the way the question is framed by the CBS reporter

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Speaker 1: and also what you don't hear coming once again from bruly,

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Speaker 1: any of the context relating to this with my fingers

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Speaker 1: egregious situation as it's being described as another means to

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Speaker 1: go and criticize ICE. I mean, the bias is on

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Speaker 1: clear display and the context is completely absent.

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Speaker 18: You've said that ICE agents have stopped community members, but

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Speaker 18: also off duty officers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah tell me.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, so we've had a couple of officers in a

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Speaker 19: civilian staff that were stopped by ICE agents. They're obviously

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Speaker 19: US citizens.

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Speaker 1: Just in travel, representative, Okay, just in travel, just in travel.

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Speaker 1: See why I immediately you know the the blank blank

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Speaker 1: meter goes off here is because if it really was

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Speaker 1: just in travel, you would provide the other details relating

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Speaker 1: to how it was just in travel. You would give

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Speaker 1: proper context. These were individ jewels who just got off

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Speaker 1: of work playing closed, did not have any interactions with

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Speaker 1: ICE whatsoever, and you you would provide that and you

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Speaker 1: don't get much of that in the commentary.

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Speaker 19: People of color and were stopped in Forrester demanded for

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Speaker 19: paperwork to prove that they are US citizens.

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Speaker 1: You mean their driver's license? Is that what you mean,

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Speaker 1: mister police Chief Mark Brooley? Why do you have to

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Speaker 1: use papers?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Because it sounds more scary mm HMMs for papers. The

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Speaker 1: only people that will be really worried about that are

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Speaker 1: those that like freak out about getting paper cuts, like

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Speaker 1: my wife, Like you want to see Milinda freak out

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Speaker 1: if she has a paper in your hand and act

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Speaker 1: like you're gonna grab it and pull it.

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Speaker 2: Hates paper cuts, I mean, rightfully. So they hurt. I

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Speaker 2: got one just the other day, right there? How do

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Speaker 2: they get back to the audio?

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Speaker 19: Had weapons drawn on them in one case, had had

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Speaker 19: guns drawn on them as a police officer with a child,

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Speaker 19: and they're.

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Speaker 1: I'd like how the CBS reporter comes in for the assist. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you forgot to mention? Do they pull their guns again?

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Speaker 2: Just randomly? No justification whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you're led to believe, right that

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Speaker 1: they were stopped pulled over cops persons of color just driving.

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Speaker 1: The reporter comes in, Hey, no afraid they pulled their

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Speaker 1: guns too, Didn't they make sure you get that in there.

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Speaker 19: Going to the store, had been boxed in, guns drawn

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Speaker 19: on them, and demanded paperwork to prove that they were

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Speaker 19: that they were essentially a US citizen.

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Speaker 18: That law enforcement officer knows how they should or should

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Speaker 18: not be stopped by other law enforcement right.

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Speaker 19: And that was always my concern about coming out about

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Speaker 19: being alerning the nation about the fact that this is

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Speaker 19: happened in the cops, because I thought the message would

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Speaker 19: also get it lost that people would say, oh, now

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Speaker 19: he's concerned about it because it happened to his police officers,

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Speaker 19: and that's not the case.

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Speaker 1: No, The concern about it is you're not providing any

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Speaker 1: context as to what actually happened with those stops and

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Speaker 1: what brought Ice to act the way that they did,

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Speaker 1: because I had not seen a single video so far

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Speaker 1: or any evidence whatsoever of Ice just stopping somebody randomly

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Speaker 1: and pulling out their guns. Every single time there has

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Speaker 1: been an inciting incident that brought it about. So the

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Speaker 1: same reporter also ended up talking with the Minnesota Department

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Speaker 1: of Corrections Commissioner Paul Schnell over immigration enforcement. What's happening

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Speaker 1: on the national level.

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Speaker 18: What would you say to other states who are watching

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Speaker 18: Minnesota right now and who feel like that's a blue

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Speaker 18: state problem.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is a national problem first and foremost. It

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Speaker 3: is an indication of the like.

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Speaker 1: Hold on really quick, it's a national problem. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: because I know here on the show we've been looking

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Speaker 1: at a bunch of other states have all been having

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Speaker 1: exactly the same issues that we've been having. No, that

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Speaker 1: hasn't happened at all. This has been completely isolated here

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Speaker 1: to Minnesota. You've had other protests taking place. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that, but the gravity of the situation and what

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Speaker 1: we've been dealing with here. No is a reason why,

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Speaker 1: because Minnesota has.

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Speaker 2: Been almost exclusive in all of this.

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Speaker 1: And as Jeff O'Brien earlier in the hour not did

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Speaker 1: in the ruling that came from the judge over the

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Speaker 1: frivolous lawsuit of Keith Ellison, they basically said, the problems

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Speaker 1: that you guys are facing right now are solely your

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Speaker 1: own doing because of your sanctuary policies.

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Speaker 2: And Yettie's trying to go and say, you know, it's.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like this, this is the same excuse to

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Speaker 1: Governor Tim Wallas uses when we talk about fraud, but

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Speaker 1: fraudt is happening all over the place everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's not just too I know it's happening here. It's bad,

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Speaker 2: but it's not just dood.

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Speaker 3: The big challenges we have around a national immigration policy

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Speaker 3: and the national enforcement policy. But public safety is not

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Speaker 3: a red state or a blue state problem. In fact,

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Speaker 3: if you look at crime on the whole, crime is

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Speaker 3: down and then sorta period and it was down prior

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Speaker 3: to the search. So the whole assertion that this is

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Speaker 3: going to drive crime, it doesn't make sense. It's not

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Speaker 3: founded in anything.

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Speaker 1: No, what doesn't make sense and what's not founded in

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Speaker 1: anything are your comments and the comments of the Brooklyn

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Speaker 1: Park Police Chief, because it's all a bunch of garbage,

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Speaker 1: false narratives, misinformation. Wise of omission, we'll get to your

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Speaker 1: comments coming up in just a moment on Twin City's

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Speaker 1: News Talk House speaker Lisa Daemuth also will be joining

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Speaker 1: us holds a major lead lead and a Republican's drawpole

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Speaker 1: for governor in the wake of the precinct caucuses. So

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Speaker 1: we'll get a little bit of a preview of the

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Speaker 1: legislative session with Lisa Daymouth as well. Next here on

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Speaker 1: Twin City's News Talk AM eleven thirty and one O

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Speaker 1: three five f M