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Speaker 1: It's time for our weekly conversation with legendary sports writer

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Speaker 1: Larry Stone, brought to you by the Ram Restaurant and Brewery, Bigger,

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Speaker 1: Here's Larry Stone.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go big thanks to our friends

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Speaker 2: at the RAM. Maybe we should try and do a

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Speaker 2: food is by going to them. They're not coming to us.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it right because the near's locations in Kent.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct to us?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: All right, yeah, yes, the answer is yes. Yes, set

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Speaker 2: it up.

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Speaker 4: We want to closs to our house.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we'll have Larry Stone stop by and say hi

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Speaker 2: in person. They'd be lining up for hours, man to

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Speaker 2: see Larry Stone in the flesh baby, and here he is,

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Speaker 2: our friend. Courtesy of the Ram. Legendary sports writer Larry Stone.

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Speaker 3: How are you, man? I'm doing good? Can I request the.

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Speaker 2: Hundred percent yes, yes, it would be up to Larry. Yes,

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Speaker 2: technically you're in charge. We can do it at fine,

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Speaker 2: We'll come to you and make life easy on you.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to take four h five from Izaquada, Kent.

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Speaker 5: That doesn't sound fun to you.

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Speaker 2: Larry at five o'clock on Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: He'll be he'll be there by nine.

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Speaker 2: I think you'd rather go back to cover the Mariners

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Speaker 2: full time than do that. Well, there's a lot to

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Speaker 2: talk about first week of the years in the books

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Speaker 2: three and four on the year. We'll talk about the

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Speaker 2: Yankees series in a minute, what you saw against the Guardians.

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Speaker 2: But the big news is the Cohen Emerson contract. Right,

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Speaker 2: and there's this new phenomenon in baseball where teams just

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Speaker 2: can't wait.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: It used to be we want to sign guys during

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Speaker 2: their rookie year or after a year, like wander Franco Acunya,

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Speaker 2: Tatist Junior Julio. Now we're seeing minor leaguers that have

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Speaker 2: never stepped foot on a Major League baseball field getting

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Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars almost. I mean, what's next, embryos,

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Speaker 2: for god's sakes, how about this new phenomenon in baseball man,

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Speaker 2: what do you make of it?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not that new.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you can go back ten years and find uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, Chris Bryant and some other people who did that.

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Speaker 6: But the numbers have escalated upwards considerably, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 6: it's a calculated risk on on both sides. Part if

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Speaker 6: if Colt Emerson turns into the star that the Mariners

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Speaker 6: think he's going to be, they'll say they'll save millions

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Speaker 6: of dollars on the back end of that contract by

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Speaker 6: buying out two three agent years. And Colt, you know,

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Speaker 6: he's if he he'll cost himself that, but he also

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Speaker 6: gets some security in case he basically flames out or

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Speaker 6: you know, becomes an Evan White and uh, his career

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Speaker 6: doesn't advance. He's got guaranteed almost one hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 6: But I think from the Mariner's standpoint, it makes it

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Speaker 6: makes a lot of sense because they're they're there, they

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Speaker 6: have full belief that he's going to be a star player.

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Speaker 6: And which case, like I said, he's gonna he's going

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Speaker 6: to save him, They're going to save themselves tens of

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Speaker 6: millions of dollars because he's not going to be making

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Speaker 6: anywhere near to what the market says he should be earning.

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Speaker 5: If that happens, well, Larry, it kind of reminds me

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Speaker 5: of the old NFL system. Remember Sam Bradford making six years,

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Speaker 5: seventy eight million dollars with fifty million guaranteed. I mean,

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Speaker 5: they're just betting on the spec kind of like the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know when when Evan White flamed out,

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Speaker 6: it was twenty four million dollars, which is a lot

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Speaker 6: of money, but it's not crippling, right, you know, in

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Speaker 6: this case, in this case, that's some serious money if

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Speaker 6: he doesn't pan out. But I don't I mean, I

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Speaker 6: just find it hard to imagine that he's not going

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Speaker 3: Maybe he won't turn out to be an all star, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, elite MVP caliber caliber player, but I think he's

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Speaker 6: in which case it's going to be a good deal

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Speaker 6: for them. And from from Colt's standpoint, even if you know,

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Speaker 6: even if he turns into an MVB caliber and he's

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Speaker 6: not making what he should be, he's going to be

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Speaker 6: and would stand to make you know, the huge payday

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Speaker 6: at that point. So he's getting security, he's getting about

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Speaker 6: one hundred million dollars and a chance.

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Speaker 3: For a second pay day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know, I understand why he did it,

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Speaker 6: and you know, you just you Corbyn. Carrol did this

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Speaker 6: he do it again because it just took all that

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Speaker 6: He didn't have to worry about arbitration, free agency and

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Speaker 6: all that. You know, he's now he can just concentrate

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Speaker 6: I think for some players it's just kind of depends

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Speaker 6: on what kind of person you are. Some players don't

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Speaker 2: And other guys want to bet on themselves, like Jared Kellerchy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was offered a big deal by the

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Speaker 2: MS when he said take a hike, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he regrets that every day of his life, for God's sakes.

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Speaker 2: But Larry Stones with us, Larry, the question now is

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Speaker 2: what's the plan for him? Right? Like I guess they

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Speaker 2: can say all they want, We're not gonna fast track

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Speaker 2: him because of the contracts, but he's got a contract

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Speaker 2: and it's got to be in the back of their

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Speaker 2: I do find it a little odd, not odd, but

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Speaker 2: funny that on the same day they announced the deal

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Speaker 2: was rehabbing in Tacoma to get back up here and

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Speaker 2: So what is the what's the long term plan for

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Speaker 2: it mean for JP Donovan, the whole thing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's gonna be interesting to see how they integrate him.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Jerry Depoto yesterday said that shortstop is gonna

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Speaker 6: that when Emerson comes up, he's gonna play probably third base,

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Speaker 6: and then they're going to turn Brendon Donovan into ben Zobrist,

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Speaker 6: you know, move him all around, have him play some

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Speaker 3: So if you if.

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Speaker 6: You sprinkle him around, it's gonna cost uh, you know,

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Speaker 6: if it's a few other players some some time off,

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Speaker 6: but uh, you know, fewer at bats, but you know

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Speaker 6: it's gonna take some It's gonna take some clever maneuvering

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Speaker 3: Now. I mean, we'll see what happens with JP.

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of people are quick to write

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Speaker 6: him off and say, you know, he's declining, they should

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Speaker 6: just put cold to Emerson at shortstop.

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Speaker 3: But uh, I think people are under valuing what JP

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Speaker 6: He was almost a four war player last year, had

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Speaker 6: a good year last year, so you know, I don't

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Speaker 6: think he's done by any means. But if he struggles

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Speaker 6: and he's hitting two or something, maybe you just have

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Speaker 6: to make the hard decision, the hard call and tell

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Speaker 6: him that his time as a starter is over and

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Speaker 6: move Emerson there if he's thriving. But I think that

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Speaker 3: My guess would be the middle of May.

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Speaker 6: Give him, give him a month, maybe at triple A

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Speaker 6: if he's if he's doing well and he's off to

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Speaker 6: a good start already, I don't see any reason to

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Speaker 6: He's another good player they could add to their lineup,

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Speaker 6: and just it should only make it stronger.

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Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, guys, just real quick. So Emerson

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Speaker 2: was playing shortstop for the first three games in Tacoma,

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Speaker 2: and he's been playing at third the last two nights

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Speaker 2: only because Crawford's there. So should we be keeping an

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Speaker 2: eye on that? Like, if Colin Emerson all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden is playing third base full time in Tacoma, is

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Speaker 2: that a sign? Does that mean anything to you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure, it is definitely a sign.

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Speaker 6: He played a lot of third base in spring train

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Speaker 6: exhibition games, yep, So I mean he will have he

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Speaker 6: will if JP is healthy, Emerson will be playing a

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Speaker 6: makes sense to have him played third down there. I

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Speaker 6: don't think he'll play exclusively third. I think he'll play

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Speaker 6: some short stuff. But I would watch that as well

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Speaker 5: Larry, you mentioned Jerry Depoto's conversation with the media. Say,

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Speaker 5: were you surprised to hear him when he said there

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Speaker 5: is not a likelihood that anything gets done this season

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I think I think they want to get something done.

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Speaker 6: Logan now is close enough to free agency where I

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Speaker 6: think he's just saying, all right, I might as well

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Speaker 6: can get. When you when you see some of the

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Speaker 6: contracts that were the pitchers are two hundred million dollars

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Speaker 6: for a guy of his Galiber, I'm not sure if

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Speaker 6: the Mariners are willing to give him that. And Wo

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Speaker 6: would commit for the right price, but it seems like

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Speaker 6: they just can't agree on the price point. But Wo

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Speaker 6: you know West Coast guy, I would think he would.

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Speaker 3: Be the guy that they're going to. Uh, it's the likeliest.

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Speaker 6: But you've got to remember, they got two studs coming

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Speaker 6: and and right now Slow and Sloan and Anderson. By

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Speaker 6: next year, I think most people think they'll be in

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Speaker 6: the in the rotation. So you have a little flexibility

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Speaker 6: there that, you know, if you don't lock those guys up,

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Speaker 6: But I don't think there's that urgency to get all

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the future feels like it's exciting for these guys.

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Speaker 2: There's there's no question about that. I mean, Dick and

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Speaker 5: Calling Larry before we let you go your first impressions

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Speaker 5: that breaks C. B. Buckner's back. Six overturned calls in

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the one thought that's come to me is

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Speaker 3: They screwed up for the world to see. You know,

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Speaker 6: But on the other hand, you look like there was

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Speaker 3: Of an inch, and you know, I don't know how.

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Speaker 6: Any human being could make that call correctly one hundred

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Speaker 2: Would you go to the ABS system full time? Just

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Speaker 6: Picture No, I don't think I would. I think it

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Speaker 2: There's no need for a challenge. I mean, they can

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Speaker 2: It's simple.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I would.

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Speaker 6: Get to that point, but I like the fact that

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Speaker 3: Uh umpires still have.

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Speaker 6: A purpose this back there. You know, they're not just

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Speaker 2: You got it, all right, man, great stuff. We will

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Speaker 5: I'm saying that NIL has created a situation where the

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Speaker 2: go out and buy players, like Indiana, for example, in

435
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Speaker 2: college football. So I mean, if you're telling me that

436
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 2: the ratings are up because the best teams are playing

437
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: and that's what people want to see, I can see that.

438
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 2: I still think that the biggest reason why ratings are up,

439
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 2: Dick in college sports is because of gambling, and I

440
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 2: think it's not even close. And look, there's no way

441
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Speaker 2: of either one of us proving this right. This is

442
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Speaker 2: all just opinion based. But I'll just give you an example.

443
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Speaker 2: I'm down there in Vegas a couple of weeks ago,

444
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Speaker 2: and I'm watching the Iowa State Tennessee State game. And

445
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: it's late in the second half in Iowa State's up

446
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 2: by like thirty and I'm watching. You know why I'm

447
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 2: watching Because I'm getting thirty five. That's why I'm watching.

448
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 2: And I wonder how many people are continuing to watch

449
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 2: sporting events all over the country because of the gambling apps.

450
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you've got one, I've got one. They're getting

451
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Speaker 2: sued now by the State of Washington, right, but they're

452
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 2: more available now than ever before. I mean, everybody has

453
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Speaker 2: access to a gambling app.

454
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Speaker 6: Pic.

455
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Speaker 2: They just passed the they just redid the law. We're

456
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Speaker 2: going to be able to go to the Emerald Queen

457
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Speaker 2: Casino in September and bet on the Huskies and Cougars

458
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Speaker 2: now and Gonzaga. That just got changed. Okay, everybody has

459
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Speaker 2: an app. So I just feel like there's way more

460
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Speaker 2: reasons to continue watching these games than before because you

461
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Speaker 2: got a couple of bucks on them. And I think

462
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 2: there's going to be a generation of people, Dick. You know,

463
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 2: the teenagers now, the twenty year olds are going to

464
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 2: grow up with gambling on their cell phones, like kids

465
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Speaker 2: in Great Britain have for years with gambling houses world

466
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Speaker 2: all over the place, right, And people think this is

467
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Speaker 2: the worst thing in the world for humanity, It's going

468
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Speaker 2: to bring down society. I don't think that at all.

469
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Speaker 2: I think people just like anything, they just get used

470
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Speaker 2: to it. So I feel like the gambling aspect is

471
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Speaker 2: playing a bigger role. There's also this new thing that

472
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Speaker 2: Wilner has been talking about. Got where is it? This

473
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Speaker 2: new way that they're measuring ratings now for sports. Have

474
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Speaker 2: you seen this. It's called the big data thing that

475
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Speaker 2: Nielsen's doing where they're able to track every platform, bars

476
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Speaker 2: and restaurants, things like that, streaming services. This launched in

477
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Speaker 2: September of last year, I believe, so it's been out

478
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Speaker 2: there for like seven months, and they say that because

479
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Speaker 2: of this new Nielsen rating system, sporting events are up

480
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Speaker 2: between five and ten percent all over the country because

481
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Speaker 2: of this new way they're tracking stuff. So I think

482
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Speaker 2: when you throw in everything you're talking about, there's probably

483
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Speaker 2: reasons for all for everything playing a role.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, and let's use one example that takes

485
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Speaker 5: the gambling out of it, right, unless you're unless you

486
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Speaker 5: found an app that you can gamble on which team

487
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Speaker 5: is going to be whitch seed. It was the most

488
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Speaker 5: watched selection show since twenty fourteen, and that tells me

489
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Speaker 5: that there is more of an interest in the game

490
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Speaker 5: itself than there has been. Yes, yeah, maybe fostered by gambling. Gambling,

491
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Speaker 5: but you're not gambling on the selection show per se.

492
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Speaker 2: Well you can if you can find a bookie that'll

493
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Speaker 2: take it. Absolutely.

494
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Speaker 4: I think the masses are gambling gamble.

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Speaker 2: On anything, man, I mean, you know whatever, you can

496
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Speaker 2: get a got to take a bet on, you can,

497
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Speaker 2: you can, you can put money on it. But yeah,

498
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Speaker 2: I just think you know, being involved with this now

499
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Speaker 2: from a gambling perspective, a bracket perspective. Uh, there's just

500
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Speaker 2: more interest in sports period. There's more interest in sports

501
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 2: and the NIL thing. Again, I think that nil is

502
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Speaker 2: good for college football and college basketball for a couple

503
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Speaker 2: of reasons, one of which I think again, it gives

504
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Speaker 2: teams that don't normally have a chance because of their

505
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Speaker 2: history to get involved in the game. I mean, Indiana

506
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: football is the perfect example, right, I mean, I know

507
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Speaker 2: that SMU hasn't made a run towards the national championship,

508
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Speaker 2: but the amount of money they've gotten down there, they

509
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Speaker 2: might one day find themselves in the same boat as Indiana.

510
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Speaker 2: We're not seeing that in like we're not seeing it

511
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Speaker 2: in basketball, for sure. I mean we're seeing it in

512
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Speaker 2: football a little bit, but not in basketball. Still a

513
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Speaker 2: Big Ten team, I mean, I do not believe. But

514
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Speaker 2: you never saw this coming with Indiana, No, of course not.

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Speaker 4: But there's still a Big Ten team. They're not McNee State.

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Speaker 2: Right, but they were the worst team in the Big

517
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Speaker 2: tench They were the worst team in the history of

518
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Speaker 2: Division one football.

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Speaker 5: But I don't think Indiana football can be compared to

520
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Speaker 5: mid major basketball, right, I agree with I don't think we.

521
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Speaker 4: Can do that.

522
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Speaker 5: And I do not believe we will see a mid

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Speaker 5: major team in the funt outside maybe Gonzaga, and I'm

524
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Speaker 5: just gonna say maybe Gonzaga. I don't think we'll see

525
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Speaker 5: one for the next ten years. I think I do

526
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Speaker 5: not think we'll see a mid major team because of

527
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Speaker 5: Nia in what in basketball?

528
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Speaker 2: In what like in the Final four? Okay, because you

529
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: said in basketball, like, what does that mean in basketball?

530
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Speaker 2: Before Final four. So we will never see another FAU

531
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Speaker 2: for example, Nobody will do that in basketball.

532
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Speaker 4: Not for ten years.

533
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean maybe not. And that's bad, right for

534
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: a lot of people. That's bad. I mean for ratings,

535
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 2: is good because it gives you the best teams out there,

536
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Speaker 2: But for teams out there and fans out there of

537
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: lower tiered teams, then they're like, why would we even

538
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: be a part of this? Like what's the point, right,

539
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: what's the point of even doing this? Man? So I

540
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 2: think it's kind of hurting that aspect. I mean, there

541
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 2: was always the richer going to get richer and the

542
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: poor are going to get poor. A lot of people

543
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: scream that when anil got launched, and in some ways

544
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: they're being proven right. They're being absolutely proven right that

545
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Speaker 2: we're not seeing a lot of those mid major programs

546
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: anymore make runs in college basketball. You know, maybe you

547
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: can see it a little bit more in football if

548
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: you get the right person, but it's definitely not happening

549
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: in college basketball at all. I mean, there is not

550
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: one Cinderella, not one Cinderella that made the Sweet sixteen, right,

551
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 2: I Mean Texas was an eleven seed, but they're not

552
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: a Cinderella. They just had a bad regular season, right,

553
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 2: I mean, Sean Miller is a really good coach and

554
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: he's going to kill it eventually long term, I think

555
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: in Austin. But I do think that the Gambling Man

556
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: is just it is such less a taboo now than

557
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: it was five years ago. It's ridiculous, right, Like you

558
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: got the University of Washington has cut a deal with

559
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: the Pwallup tribe of Indians with the Emerald Queen. Can

560
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 2: you ever imagine growing up thinking that that a college

561
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: would allow a Native American tribal group that runs a

562
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Speaker 2: casino that had to advertise on their campus, and that's

563
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 2: what they're doing, like for years and years and years. Oh,

564
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,959
Speaker 2: we can't do this. This is horrible, This is awful.

565
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: This will lead to terrible things. Man, Like what nobody

566
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: is seeing any of that? Like what are we talking about? Right?

567
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: I Mean, people are smart, They're able to make decisions

568
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: on their own. They don't need you looking over their

569
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: shoulder telling them what they can and cannot do with

570
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Speaker 2: their mind.

571
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Speaker 5: I still remember this was probably four years ago, and

572
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 5: I'm in Spokane with Dixon's basketball team, and I turn

573
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 5: on the TV and think about how striking this would

574
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 5: be four years ago and this and Drew Timmy pops

575
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 5: on the TV and he says, hey, Drew Timmy for

576
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 5: Northern Quest Casino and I was like.

577
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 4: What in the hell are we doing? And now it's

578
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 4: just like commonplace?

579
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Speaker 6: Right?

580
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, Well, look, man, I mean there's there's a

581
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: lot of reasons for it, but we do know that

582
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: sports ratings are up, and the new ratings system maybe

583
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: nil forcing the cream to the top and not having

584
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 2: people deal with teams that have no chance of winning

585
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: and giving everybody great matchups. And then on top of that,

586
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: obviously the gambling aspect. Everything's playing a role. But right now,

587
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: the rights fees for TV rights NFL, I mean, how

588
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: the NFL may go back to CBS and say, you

589
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: know what, your three billion dollars not enough, we want more, exactly. Honestly,

590
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous how much money they're getting. Now, all right,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna break a little fun with audio. Next on

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Speaker 2: Jimmy g paorn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have

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Speaker 2: night normally three forty five, but Lane Lambert, coach of

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Speaker 2: Fun with Audio slash hated you hear that? Hey, Dick?

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Speaker 2: Did you happen to hear that? Today? What's that?

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Speaker 3: Dick?

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Speaker 2: Were starting ball? Legendary Phillies player and announcer John Cruck

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Speaker 2: shared an unorthodox condiment that he prefers on his hot

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Speaker 2: dog during the Phillies Nationals broadcast Tuesday night on NBC

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Speaker 2: Sports Philadelphia.

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Speaker 8: That's what I had for lunch before I came to

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Speaker 8: the ball for hot dog's too, hot dog, potato roll

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Speaker 8: and mayo mayo. Hope you have a baloney sandwich you

619
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Speaker 8: put mayo on it? Ain't they the same meat?

620
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Speaker 4: That's an interesting point.

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Speaker 5: There's not a lot of difference between what's in a

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Speaker 5: hot dog and what's in a baloney, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of inconsistencies though in food,

624
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Speaker 2: is there not? With what you put on something that

625
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Speaker 2: tastes like, uh, you know whatever. But I gotta be

626
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Speaker 2: honest with you. I don't ever put mayonnaise on a

627
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Speaker 2: hot either, ever, and I don't think I ever have either.

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Speaker 4: But I could see it's not around. It's not like

629
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Speaker 4: peanut butter, right, It's not like a ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anything is ridiculous. I think you put

631
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Speaker 2: whatever the hell you want on it. I mean, peanut

632
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: butter actually sounds pretty damn good. Honestly, we put peanut

633
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Speaker 2: butter on burgers. Now, why not put a peanut butter

634
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Speaker 2: on a hot dog? I mean, I just to me,

635
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Speaker 2: mayonnaise belongs on a cold sandwich, right, I don't even

636
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Speaker 2: really like mayonnaise on a Burger to be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: now more of a relish ketshup tomatoes, stuff like that. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know, man, I've never been in big

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Speaker 2: mayo on hot dog guy. I know a lot of

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Speaker 2: people are, but I'm not, so I don't know. I'm

641
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Speaker 2: not surprised that John Cruck, by the way, likes mayonnaise

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Speaker 2: on those hot dog All right, Hey, Dick, did you

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Speaker 2: happen to hear that?

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Speaker 4: What's that?

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00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 3: Dick?

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00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: On ESPN this morning, Stephen A. Smith torn to Tiger Woods,

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Speaker 2: reacting to the dui chargers that Woods faces after rolling

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Speaker 2: his car in Florida.

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Speaker 9: Bump his prophecy. We'll give a damn about his prophecy.

650
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 9: You know what we don't care right now. You've been

651
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 9: behind the wheel of a vehicle inebriated three times. You know,

652
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 9: anybody trying to know all your business. What we want

653
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 9: to know is that you ain't gonna get behind the

654
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 9: wheel of a damn car when you inebriate it. You're

655
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 9: lucky you didn't kill somebody. That's what we want to hear.

656
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 9: You know, anything else, nothing else is our business. Nothing

657
00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 9: else is our business.

658
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: You know.

659
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: I heard Michael Leaves on sports in the.

660
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 9: Last night, doing a great job, by the way, talking

661
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 9: about Tiger Woods. And you know how private he is.

662
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 9: Damn that privacy. You know what, I don't give a

663
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 9: damn what you're worried about. Well you you, you must,

664
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 9: you must have a very highly suspect life that you,

665
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 9: as a billionaire, don't even want to hire a driver.

666
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: Well, he should just have his license taken away. End

667
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: the story. And there's an easy way to get around this.

668
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: Just take his license away. That's what happened to him before.

669
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: Well take it away permanently, honestly, just never. You're just

670
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: not driving anymore. I mean you've proven that, you know. Look,

671
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: this is he's three for three, but he's also zero

672
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: for three and that means killing somebody, right, So you

673
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: imagine if he gets into a fourth car crash and

674
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: he ends up actually killing somebody or himself, he should

675
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: never drive again. He should never have a driver's license.

676
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 5: Come on, guys, because they don't have the same protective

677
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 5: mechanisms and cars for hydro codone that they do for alcohol.

678
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 5: Like alcohol, you blow in a thing, now your car

679
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 5: doesn't start unless you have a zero point zero zero.

680
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 2: But then make of that for painkillers and make him

681
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: pee in a bag. Honestly, he refused the p test.

682
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: That's why he got arrested on suspicion of DUI. I'm

683
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: just saying, forget all that. Don't let him drive, because

684
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: every time I see the name Tiger Woods in the

685
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: news now, I think something bad. And I think there's

686
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: more people now that are starting to know Tiger Woods

687
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: Dick for the stuff he's not doing versus the stuff

688
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: he did do. Well, that's right.

689
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 4: I mean, especially if you're younger, I mean hundred percent.

690
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 5: You know, if you're twelve thirteen year old, I mean,

691
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 5: you don't know anything about Tiger Woods other than he

692
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 5: just keeps getting in trouble.

693
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: Tragic figure, that's what you know. And it's sad, right

694
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: because we're all rooting for him. I mean, come on, hey, Dick,

695
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: did you happen to hear that? What's that?

696
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 6: Dick?

697
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: The t Wolves face the MAVs on Monday night, Anthony

698
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: Edwards ant Man had an interesting reason for why Mike

699
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: Conley started the game over him.

700
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 5: What happened to you for the first man out?

701
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 6: Okay?

702
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 8: I was taking a oh yeah, but yeah, like I said, Mike,

703
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 8: hold it now From you.

704
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: What do you do when you're coaching a basket caotball

705
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: game and you got a pooh on the sideline?

706
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: I don't.

707
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 5: I've never once, never, one time, because I'm a I'm

708
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 5: a pre game pooper.

709
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 4: Oh really, I take care of bisbell?

710
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 7: Do you do?

711
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: You dedicate a window of time, like let's say the

712
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: games it's seven, you tell yourself right between six forty

713
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: five and six fifty five. I mean, the can don't

714
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: bother me. You've got a question about the game plan,

715
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: ask the assistant.

716
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 5: It usually comes like kind of naturally because you got

717
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 5: the like you got the butterflies going before the game,

718
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 5: You're fired up, your system's going, and then it just

719
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 5: comes natural.

720
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 2: You ever defecate pee your pants while you're playing football

721
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: or baseball or anything in high school, junior high? I have?

722
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 4: Have you really?

723
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: Oh?

724
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

725
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 4: Playing football like a hit was too hard?

726
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: No? No, no, not that. Just piss yourself. You gotta go.

727
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: I mean, everything you're wearing is going right into the

728
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: wash because it stinks everything you're wearing.

729
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 4: And then one is what you're saying.

730
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 5: Of course, okay, lots of people just accidentally let it go.

731
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: No, I got I love getting it I blacked out,

732
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: but never poop myself. Was I a hit by somebody?

733
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 3: Oh?

734
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: Wasn't that big of a sissy? But yeah, I mean you're,

735
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: you know, playing high school football and you got your

736
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: jock on and your hip pads and thigh pads and

737
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: your pants and you just go whatever, especially if it's

738
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: raining and it's muddy already, doesn't really matter least September.

739
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: It could be a problem basketball. No, you can't do

740
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: it basketball good. You imagine calling a basketball game? All right,

741
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 2: forty five, forty three?

742
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: Two?

743
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 2: Well, five left to go? That guy's leaking over there?

744
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: What's going on there in the baseline, Bob, I don't know.

745
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: Baller's dripping down his right leg. We got a problem,

746
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: all right? Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?

747
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: Dave?

748
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: What's that?

749
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 8: That?

750
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: Will be?

751
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: Analyst Jim Bowden went on The Foul Territory Show to

752
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: give his take on the Mariners signing Colin Emerson to

753
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: an eight year deal, and he could not love the

754
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: move anymore.

755
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, so let's start with cold Emerson. I think Jerry

756
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 10: Depoto and the Mariners did a really good job of

757
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 10: tying up a future All star shortstop. You know, eight years,

758
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 10: ninety five million. They got a club option that basically

759
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 10: you can roll the player for nine years. So I

760
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 10: get three arbitration years and I get three free agent

761
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 10: years at one hundred and thirty million. Oh yeah, thank

762
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 10: you very much. Might have another, you know, Roman Anthony

763
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 10: got nine years, one hundred and thirty million from Boston.

764
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 10: Jackson Merrill got nine years, one hundred and thirty five

765
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 10: million from San Diego. Colt Emerson belongs in that conversation

766
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 10: with those two players. He's going to be a star.

767
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 10: And so the club wins these deals.

768
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: They just do.

769
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 10: As long as the player lives up anywhere close to

770
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 10: how we kind of view that he's going to, they're

771
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 10: gonna win.

772
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 2: And well, it's funny because a deal like this comes down,

773
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: and I haven't heard anybody who doesn't like it. Everybody

774
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 2: in baseball who covers baseball loves it.

775
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: Well, we all like him.

776
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: From a team person, right, it just makes total sense.

777
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 5: And I guess I understand it from a Colt Emerson

778
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 5: sense too. I mean, yes, you're potentially leaving a lot

779
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 5: of money on the table. Yeah, but the security that

780
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 5: you have in the near future, I mean you're set

781
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 5: you're set for life, guaranteed. Even if you hit three

782
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 5: for the next eight years and you're worth seventy five

783
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 5: million dollars a year, you're still set for life, and

784
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 5: you'll be able to get seventy five million dollars a year.

785
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 4: When this contract h.

786
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 2: He's gonna be twenty eight years old. It's only taken

787
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: up two maybe three years of free agency. There's an

788
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: option for a third year that pays him a lot

789
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: of money. By the way, I think it takes the

790
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: value to like one hundred and.

791
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 3: Thirty million bucks.

792
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: So I would do it if I were him, you know,

793
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you can argue, wait, see what happens. You

794
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 2: could have argued Jackson Smith and Jigba should have waited

795
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: maybe another year, see what happens. Football is different than

796
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: baseball because football you can get knocked out and your

797
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: career is over on one play. Baseball is usually not

798
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 2: like that. But if I'm cold Emerson's agent or I'm

799
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: his dad and they approached me and said, hey, what

800
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: do you think I'd say, sign it?

801
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: Do it?

802
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: Yes?

803
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: Hey.

804
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: By the way, you realize, he is now the thirteenth

805
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: highest paid shortstop in baseball based on average annual value.

806
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: You know who's number twelve in front of him, Wander

807
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: Franco who might be going to prison by the way. Wow, right,

808
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: so let's hope that doesn't mean anything.

809
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: How much did kell Nick turn down a.

810
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: Hundred million bucks?

811
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: Is the rumor?

812
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: That's the rumor. There was a report about that. Yeah, yeah,

813
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure he regrets it every day of his life.

814
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?

815
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 4: I don't listen to you often because you're not interesting.

816
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: Let me try that again, Hey, Dick, did you happen.

817
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 4: To hear that?

818
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: What's that?

819
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: Dick?

820
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: Today, during the Rangers Orioles game, MLB history was made

821
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: for the first time ever a baseball game has ended

822
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: with a successful ABS challenge. Here is the call on

823
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 2: m A s N Like that, Ohio's gonna challenge?

824
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: Yep, well why not?

825
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 8: We have not seen it challenge in the game yet,

826
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 8: ABS powered by t Mobile Basio for the win.

827
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 11: Yes, the first ever ABS challenge to end a game

828
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 11: here at Oriole Park.

829
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 2: That was a great call. It's just so odd now

830
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: that when something like that happens, all of us are

831
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: going to look to the Jumbo Tron and within seconds,

832
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 2: yes or damn it right, We're gonna find out right away, uh,

833
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: if it was the right call or the wrong call.

834
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: Now instead of having a umpire make a call right,

835
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: we're gonna be looking to a monitor to see if

836
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: the ball actually hit the box or not. And there's

837
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: a part of me that's a little bit kind of

838
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: uneasy about that. But I think, like anything, Dick, we're

839
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: gonna get used to this.

840
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: Well.

841
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 5: For the first time I ever saw it was in

842
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 5: an Ozzie Rules football game about seven or eight years ago,

843
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 5: and they had I was like, what is going on?

844
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 5: And they actually had advertising. I remember it's Harvey Norman.

845
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 5: Was like a furniture store and it was the Harvey

846
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 5: Norman replay and the the it would spin and.

847
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 4: You'd wait for it.

848
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 5: To stop spinning, and it would either say try or

849
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 5: was a rugby game, either say try or no try?

850
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: Right, it was.

851
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 3: It was awesome.

852
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 4: I was like, this is great. We got to get

853
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 4: this in the States, and well, yeah, finally we got it.

854
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think that's just gonna it's gonna

855
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: get expanded. Guys. If you hate it now, you're gonna

856
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: hate it even more in the next five to ten

857
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 2: years because they're going to use this more and more

858
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: and more and more. There's just no reason not to write,

859
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: Like I made the analogy with you the other day

860
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: to an NBA basketball player that's playing thirty eight minutes

861
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 2: a game, leading the league in minutes played, Right, well,

862
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 2: why is he not playing forty eight? Because he's human

863
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: and needs a blow, So when they take him off

864
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: the court for those ten minutes, they go to a

865
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: lesser option. Right Well, baseball doesn't need to go to

866
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: the lesser option because they can play their starter the

867
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: entire game and it's called ABS and use the robot

868
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: over and over and over again. So if you're going

869
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: to use this machine to give you the right call

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Speaker 2: when somebody asks for it, why not use the machine

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Speaker 2: to just give you the right call every play.

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Speaker 5: I didn't watch, No, I didn't watch all the Mariners

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Speaker 5: games when I was gone, but it seemed like the

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Speaker 5: Mariners were never challenging anything. Yeah, I watched Aaron Boone

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Speaker 5: challenge five calls in a row and get him all

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Speaker 5: right in like three innings.

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Speaker 2: Yankees had a bunch of Merlin in the game I

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Speaker 2: think yesterday, and they were right. They were four for four.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I like what I like about it, and

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize this was going to be the case. Guys.

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Speaker 2: I like how fast it goes. Yes, Like it's not

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Speaker 2: like we're waiting two minutes or even thirty seconds. It's hey, right,

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Speaker 2: call wrong, call it. It's instantaneous. So I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I did not think i'd be with you

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Speaker 2: because I like the human element like Larry Stone does.

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Speaker 2: But I would be in favor of maybe up in

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Speaker 2: this from two to four, and then maybe from four

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Speaker 2: to five, and then maybe seeing down the road how

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Speaker 2: people feel about just doing this system all the time.

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Speaker 2: We'll get a break. Mike Florio coming up around six

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Speaker 2: thirty tonight on ninety three three KJRFM