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Speaker 3: after we talked to Charlie Goldsmith, which happens each and

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Speaker 3: every Friday at one o'clock, we'll talk some spring training

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Speaker 3: with our guy Tom Gallaider, coming off a nine nil

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Speaker 3: victory this week in Conker CAF Champions Cup play. FC

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati now travels to Minnesota to take on Minnesota United

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Speaker 3: us to talk some cold weather play based on what

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Speaker 3: FC Cincinnati will be dealing with tomorrow when I believe

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Speaker 3: talkbacks or phone lines five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 3: the latest from the NFL Combine, in particular with how

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Speaker 3: some Bengals targets fared yesterday in their time at the Combine.

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Speaker 3: A lot of prospects turning heads for the right way,

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Speaker 3: into more of that, and why Conkin Nipple in Indie

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Speaker 3: last night. Now, we tried in talking to Keegan Nickolson

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Speaker 3: k Nimple set a rookie record for the most three

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Speaker 3: pointers made in a rookie season.

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Speaker 2: He would have hated every second of it.

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Speaker 3: The crazy thing about what can Nipple did. They've still

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Speaker 3: got twenty two games to play, and he already owns

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Speaker 3: the rookie three point record. He is crushing it. The

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Speaker 3: the NFL free agents. We'll match them free agents with

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Speaker 3: some teams. Of course, we've got to talk about the

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Speaker 3: NFLPA surveys. Now, I thought these weren't a thing anymore.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they were always going to be a thing. It

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Speaker 2: was just that the NFLPA couldn't release them themselves. Oh,

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Speaker 2: well they'll just get leaked. Well they got leaked. We'll

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Speaker 2: discuss the leaked NFLPA surveys. Congrats to Purdue guard Brayden Smith.

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Speaker 2: He last night joinsite elite company in the world of

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Speaker 2: college basketball. With one thousand assists throughout his career. He

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Speaker 2: So shout out to Braden Smith. The unfortunate part for

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Speaker 2: This year he's still in a minus. So the players,

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Speaker 3: We've known that for a long time. What's interesting now,

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Speaker 3: GM for the Bengals received a C. Yes, that's not good. No,

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Speaker 3: And then finally two years ago ownership got a C plus.

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Speaker 3: Last year, ownership got a C. This year Austin ownership

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Speaker 2: Not surprising? More issues with Trey. I think the continual

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Speaker 3: This this slot of the Bengals twenty eighth out of

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Speaker 2: So it's three years in a row the Dolphins have

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Speaker 3: And I like how the NFL will quote review how

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Speaker 3: Twenty eighth out of thirty two. I just I guess

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Speaker 3: I don't understand the teams that are treating the families

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Speaker 2: I think we need to know more about what the

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Speaker 3: So the Bengals last year one of only twelve teams

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Speaker 3: Me, it's like on game day as a player, what's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can go back to Paul Brown's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll say this and this, I mean this.

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Speaker 2: After the game. And it's hard to like, you can't

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Speaker 2: I've never understood why the Bengals are so bad at

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Speaker 3: Especially for multiple years. Does seem like an easy fix.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, who knows. But that's where things are at.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of teams, by the way, that are

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Speaker 2: Hey, Alexa, what's the latest on the NBA?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back since e three sixty.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to our Fred at Skyline Chili. We got some

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Speaker 3: salary cap news, Austin. Did you see this today?

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Speaker 3: NFL clubs informed today that the salary cap for twenty

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Speaker 3: Yes, last year two hundred and seventy nine million. This

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Speaker 2: That is a record, that is tremendous, tremendous growth. You

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. It is since E three sixty.

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Speaker 3: We have Charlie Goldsmith coming up in just a few

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Speaker 3: what's up, Mike?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 9: Thanks? Those having a good day, are you?

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Speaker 9: Good deal? Tony? What's your arm size? What's your arm lengths? Austin,

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Speaker 9: what's your arm length?

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Speaker 9: If you wear a shirt, it'll tell you this leave size.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, I don't have a lot of shirts like that, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I don't have many dress shirts anymore.

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Speaker 9: I figured it would be about that because you're like

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Speaker 7: That's right, that's what I think.

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Speaker 9: Now, what about the hand size.

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Speaker 9: Ten inch mits, they're ten inch.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. See, I'm only like nine and nine and a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, My hands could wrap around Joe Burrows probably twice.

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Speaker 2: All right, dude, you relax.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I noticed that that day I was talking to

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Speaker 2: I don't, Mike, I've never heard of that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's one. It's when somebody grabs you and they

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Speaker 9: Is the UH is the combine on the NFL network?

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Speaker 9: Is that where it's visible?

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Speaker 9: Okay, so it's all in. Today's the last day.

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Speaker 2: No, it goes all weekend.

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Speaker 9: So it goes all weekend. So and they break it down.

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Speaker 9: Is it by position or.

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Speaker 9: Have you guys been watching it?

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Speaker 3: Couple Sunny Styles was at the top of my list easily.

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Speaker 3: With with how he tested yesterday, I thought Jake Goldey

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Speaker 3: from UC really did help himself in what he was

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Speaker 3: able to do. And I don't know other than that,

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Speaker 3: I think David Bailey is just going to be a monster.

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Speaker 2: I think Jacob Rodriguez from Texas Tech had a really

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Speaker 2: good day, scored a lot more athletic than people thought

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Speaker 2: that he would score. So I was interested in him

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Speaker 2: because I've been seeing a lot of mock drafts where

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Speaker 2: he's not going until the third round, and that didn't

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Speaker 2: make sense to me based off what I had seen

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Speaker 2: from him watching him throughout the season. Yeah, so athletically,

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Speaker 2: I think he tested better than team's thoughts, So that

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Speaker 2: that is interesting as a potential second round option maybe

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Speaker 2: for the Bengals, but sunny styles obviously r vel Reese

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Speaker 2: is a freak. But I'm really interested in some of

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Speaker 2: these defensive backs today.

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Speaker 9: Who was that guy from Alabama that we kept talking

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Speaker 9: about that the Bengals, that linebacker last year that we

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Speaker 9: were saying they should.

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Speaker 2: Have took John Campbell.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, had a good year, had a good year. So

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Speaker 9: so uh now, did you hear this right Austin or

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Speaker 9: In County that they said four of the first seven

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Speaker 9: picks are more than likely to be Ohio say that Buckeyes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, talked about that earlier on today.

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Speaker 3: You can you could almost say probably five of the

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Speaker 3: top ten at this point will be buck Eyes.

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Speaker 10: That is so incredible to me. I mean, when you

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Speaker 10: have that, I don't know how you don't win the

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Speaker 10: national championship Every year without sure an issue.

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Speaker 9: I don't I don't get it. And that Rodriguez guy.

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Speaker 9: Here's my last question, that Rodriguez guy. There was a

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Speaker 9: college game day earlier this year. Where did he used

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Speaker 9: to play quarterback?

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Speaker 3: I think so. I think when he was much younger

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Speaker 3: he played quarterback because they.

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Speaker 9: Showed him trying to throw it through a tire or

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Speaker 9: or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and he was dead on. And I thought, and

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Speaker 9: when they said but he was so big, I thought,

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Speaker 9: this quarterback? So so you saw that too. So this

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Speaker 9: guy is something special, really, don't you think?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I think he's I think he's going to be a

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Speaker 3: great player. But again it's all to me. I throw

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Speaker 3: the measurables aside more so than than others. And I say,

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Speaker 3: can can he play? When you turn on the tape?

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Speaker 3: And I value that way more than measurables or forty

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Speaker 3: yard dash and things like that, and Rodriguez can certainly

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Speaker 3: do that.

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Speaker 9: Okay? And do you both agree on pretty much what

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Speaker 9: the Reds started to change the subject real quick on

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Speaker 9: who the red starting lineup will be. Do you guys

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Speaker 9: pretty much concur on that one.

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Speaker 2: I think we've been in agreement to this point.

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Speaker 9: Because there's really what what I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 9: what position is.

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Speaker 3: There's not really many there's not really many position battles

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Speaker 3: that they have at this point.

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Speaker 9: So Spencer is the ace in the hole because it's versatility.

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Speaker 9: So where they got him left field or second base

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Speaker 9: or first base?

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Speaker 2: I think moving all over. I think moving all over

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Speaker 2: left field primarily.

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Speaker 9: Mike, I don't you prefer a guy plays the same

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Speaker 9: position most of the time unless he's designated utility player.

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Speaker 2: Spencer has said he likes to play every different.

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Speaker 3: Positions last year too. I think I think that's a

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Speaker 3: little bit overblown. I think these guys are so good

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Speaker 3: at what they do that that they know. I think

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Speaker 3: it's more important of where they're hitting in the lineup

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Speaker 3: every day and getting comfortable that way than the other side. Mike,

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Speaker 3: we got a run, man, Thank.

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Speaker 9: You, Okay, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: I believe Jacob Robert. I believe Rodriguez. His wife too,

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Speaker 3: is a black cop helicopter pilot in the Army.

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Speaker 2: I believe that that's a pretty impressive impressive Maybe the

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Speaker 2: Bengals can draft him and then she can do a

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Speaker 2: flyover man. Be got it? Cool? That's pretty sweet.

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Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith will answer our Reds questions and maybe more

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Speaker 3: on the Bengals when we returned to kick off our

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Speaker 2: All right, it's our number two.

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Speaker 3: It's a Friday afternoon, which means we really don't need

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Speaker 3: an introduction for our next guest joining us each and

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Speaker 3: every Friday all over Red Spring training.

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Speaker 9: Right now?

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Speaker 3: Is our good friend Charlie Goldsmith kind enough to join

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Speaker 3: us right now?

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Speaker 2: Charlie? What's going on? How are you?

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Speaker 13: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 2: How are you great?

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Speaker 3: Great? Let's talk about where this team is at. We've

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Speaker 3: seen them in a couple spring training game opportunities. Now,

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Speaker 3: what have been some things that have stood out to

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Speaker 3: you so far? With this with this Reds team.

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Speaker 13: I can talk to about any player, but something that

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Speaker 13: fascinated me really this year is just the way that

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Speaker 13: Terry Francona is talking about these spring training games. So

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Speaker 13: like yesterday, like you would think the thing that mattered

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Speaker 13: and stood out the most would be Chase Burns and

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Speaker 13: what he was doing and how he was looking. But

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Speaker 13: the things that Terry Francona really had on his mind

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Speaker 13: postgame and again this morning were base running reads, were challenges,

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Speaker 13: and then key at bats and a big day from

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Speaker 13: Tyler Callahan that won the red that game and in

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Speaker 13: a grand scheme of things in the big picture, what

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Speaker 13: matters most from yesterday probably is Burns, but it's refreshing,

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Speaker 13: it's different. I think it's a key part of like

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Speaker 13: what makes Francona kind of the philosophy and style that

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Speaker 13: he has, is he where his mind really is at

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Speaker 13: is those little things, and I think that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: It is hard to overlook, though, what we've seen so

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Speaker 3: far from Chase Burns. What have been your takeaways in

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Speaker 3: watching this up and coming star for the Reds.

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Speaker 13: His slaughter yesterday might have been the best I've ever

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Speaker 13: seen it regular season spring training bullpen anywhere, Like the

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Speaker 13: swings that he got in the first inning for a

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Speaker 13: man in Machado and Fernando tackeis junior incredible. It's just

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Speaker 13: truly incredible, and that's the upside. And then he's also

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Speaker 13: throwing the change up. Well. Now, the fastball command hasn't

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Speaker 13: been there this spring. Was better in game two than

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Speaker 13: it was in Game one. Sometimes you would worry about that.

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Speaker 13: Sometimes he wouldn't, because Burns has a real significant track

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Speaker 13: record to the picture of not being a guy who

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Speaker 13: struggles with command and a guy who does throw a

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Speaker 13: lot of strikes. If you'll call that control not command,

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Speaker 13: that's the difference there. He has great control and he

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Speaker 13: throws a lot of strikes. So I see it in

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Speaker 13: Francona said it as well. He's a young guy, but

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Speaker 13: he still needs spring training, and that fastball command's kind

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Speaker 13: of in the area we'll all have to develop to

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Speaker 13: really get that timing down.

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Speaker 2: What do you think has been the reason that the

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Speaker 2: slider has has gotten so much better? Is there anything

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Speaker 2: that Burns has kind of pointed to as to why

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Speaker 2: that pitch is improving the way it is.

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Speaker 13: Well, here's the thing not to get into twenty twenty

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Speaker 13: four MLB mock draft talk, But there was some surprise

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Speaker 13: at least externally when the Reds took Burns when they

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Speaker 13: did where he did, he wasn't necessarily projected to go

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Speaker 13: that high. Well, the Reds saw as they said, we

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Speaker 13: think your slider is awesome, and other teams were like,

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Speaker 13: your slider's okay, your slider solid, and the red We're right,

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Speaker 13: this slider was awesome. And he came up as the

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Speaker 13: rookie and was unbelievable, threw a bunch of sliders through

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Speaker 13: it past Aaron Judge and all those guys. So the

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Speaker 13: Reds have always been like the believers in the slider

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Speaker 13: and they got that one right. And it looks even

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Speaker 13: better now.

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Speaker 2: The walks that we've seen.

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Speaker 3: And I know it's spring training and you don't want

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Speaker 3: to you don't want to look too much into anything.

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Speaker 3: Should we be concerned at all about the number of

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Speaker 3: walks in some of these outings this year?

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Speaker 13: And no, I just view that as the fastball. Now,

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Speaker 13: there might be a side of it with Burns where

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Speaker 13: it's like, you know, throw your best pitch. You don't

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Speaker 13: have to throw your best pitch, trust yourself and get

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Speaker 13: ahead of the count. But to me, when you look

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Speaker 13: at again his track record of being a strike thrower.

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Speaker 13: When I look at him this spring, I just view

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Speaker 13: that as more getting a pitch and timing down as

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Speaker 13: opposed to well, you might say this about some other guys,

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Speaker 13: and I think you would say it about some other guys.

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Speaker 13: I don't see him as a guy who you're walks

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Speaker 13: in spring training are side of things to come.

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Speaker 2: A guy that I know, Austin, did you want to astolt?

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Speaker 2: You do, Austin? Do you want to ask you about

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Speaker 2: Grime Ashcraft?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 2: I have. I don't know that I have any questions

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Speaker 2: about it. He's it's spring training. I'm sure he's working

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Speaker 2: on things. It's been a rough start. I think we

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Speaker 2: can all agree on that, but I don't know what

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Speaker 2: he's working on. Charlie, do you know what he's working on?

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Speaker 13: I mean the inning yesterday got away from him when

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Speaker 13: Cam Collier is actually much better than I thought he'd

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Speaker 13: be defensively, but there was a play where I think

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Speaker 13: Cam is trying to show how good he is defensively,

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Speaker 13: and more power to him, but he dove in front

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Speaker 13: of Edwin Royo on a ball he shouldn't have and

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Speaker 13: you know you got no play, no out, And then

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Speaker 13: I believe the next play was a double play that

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Speaker 13: Edwin just didn't turn and get to throw the way

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Speaker 13: you want it to the first basement, and then the

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Speaker 13: inn it kind of unraveled from there. So I look

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Speaker 13: at that as more of an inning that was shaped

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Speaker 13: by defense. I believe a ball also help a bag

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Speaker 13: in that inning. But then he is a guy one

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Speaker 13: hundred percent where you want to see that that control,

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Speaker 13: you want to see filling up the zone. And if

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Speaker 13: that's not there in spring, maybe you spend a little

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Speaker 13: more time focusing on that.

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Speaker 2: Much more important than anything Graham Ashcraft does on the mound, Charlie,

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Speaker 2: is the style of pants that Matt McLean is wearing.

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Speaker 2: I understand that you've been working on this. Have you

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Speaker 2: learned anything about McLean's new style?

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Speaker 13: So here's the behind the scenes of like my morning

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Speaker 13: in the clubhouse this morning. So I interviewed Ellie first,

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Speaker 13: just for I wrote about it this morning, just he's healthy,

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Speaker 13: how he feels, where he's at, and what's been a

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Speaker 13: good spring. And then I said, oh yeah, and by

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Speaker 13: the way, you know, what do you think of that

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Speaker 13: we're in long pans now? And Ellie said, I've been

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Speaker 13: telling him this for years and I might mess up

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Speaker 13: the quote, but he's like long pants, more flow, more

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Speaker 13: game or something like that, more swag.

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Speaker 2: Something like that.

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Speaker 13: And it was such a strong answer that I said,

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Speaker 13: you know what, I think that's all I need to know.

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Speaker 13: I don't even need dash and playing. There's your answer.

660
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Speaker 9: I couldn't.

661
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 13: You know, Matt can't say it any better than Ellie

662
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 13: just did, and so I'll leave that last word.

663
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: Deli dela Cruz speaking of Ellie de la Cruz, a

664
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: very good start to the spring. We've seen a little

665
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: bit of everything. Charlie doubles, triple the power with the

666
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: home run. What have you liked the most with what

667
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: you've seen from Ellie so far?

668
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 13: He's healthy that you know, we talked about it all

669
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 13: last season. You know, I kind of haven't planted that

670
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 13: flag and you know gotten as you know, talked as

671
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 13: much about it yet as I should haven't. I realized

672
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 13: that yesterday, just walking those two beautiful opposite field hits

673
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 13: that just carried and carried and carried and turned into

674
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 13: extra bases, each one of them, Like that was the

675
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 13: moment where I realized, like that's it. That's when he

676
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 13: couldn't do last year. He couldn't dig into that quad

677
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 13: and elevate and drive the ball with that boomps a bit.

678
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 13: I got depth for him last year and seeing that

679
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 13: reminded me that he's back in that way. You know,

680
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 13: that type of power and carry is what he's been

681
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 13: all about when he's been healthy. And he's completely healthy

682
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 13: right now, and the Red really excited about it, and

683
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 13: so is Ellie. He told me, I have felt all

684
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 13: of my hard work that I've spent rehabbing and training

685
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 13: this offseason pay off. And he's got a good energy

686
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 13: about him because of that too.

687
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: With Ellie and with McClain, they both have had really

688
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 2: good starts to the spring at the plate. To play

689
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: devil's advocate here, they were both really good at the

690
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: plate in spring last year. And we are not always facing,

691
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: you know, the best pitching that these other teams have

692
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: to show in spring training. So do we take it

693
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: with a grain of salt? Or is there real technical

694
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 2: stuff that it feels like they've improved upon that will

695
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: translate even against better pitching.

696
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 13: I've decided that I'm just not going to read anything

697
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 13: in the mass spring training and really until like May,

698
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 13: I just don't feel like we're going to be able

699
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 13: to make any real value Leationsho wore mcclains at UIs

700
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 13: as a player specifically because it felt like some stuff

701
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 13: he shuggled with the most last season was he's like

702
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 13: one of the better grinders in baseball. You know, he's

703
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 13: just a guy who plays hard and fights and battles.

704
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 13: But it was that grind last season where it felt like,

705
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 13: really the impact of coming back off that injury cut

706
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 13: up from him and wore them down a bit. So

707
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 13: I just kind of need to see how he handles that,

708
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 13: And that's an answer.

709
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: We won't have until men south Stewart. I know that

710
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 3: that he has big aspirations for this season. We also

711
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: saw him turn on an inside pitch and hit at

712
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: four hundred and forty feet earlier in the week. What

713
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: has been your takeaway and being able to watch south

714
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: Stewart on a day to day basis with being such

715
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: a young player, but a lot being put on his shoulders.

716
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 13: Yeah, that homer is really impressive. You know, guys really

717
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 13: don't do that. Sal's a guy who is so old school,

718
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 13: you know, his approach. He would never come across as

719
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 13: a guy who sells out for power.

720
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 9: He doesn't.

721
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 13: That's not his game to be reminded. Oh, by the

722
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 13: way he can deliver that type of swing is just

723
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 13: a good reminder of the skill set that he brings

724
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 13: to the table. And with sal the big thing with

725
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 13: him all spring is going to be first base defense.

726
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 13: It being such a relatively new position for him. On

727
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 13: my memory right now, it's been very clean and successful

728
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 13: so far. Absolutely, and they just did their hardest drill

729
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 13: of the offseason of the spring. It's a huge tradition.

730
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 13: It's called twenty seven outs, and Freddy Betavidez called out

731
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 13: specific situations. Two outs run around third, seven inning, We're

732
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 13: down two runs on the road in Chicago and you

733
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 13: got to make plays. And Salz just made like the

734
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 13: huge clutch play at first to win twenty seven outs.

735
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 13: So good job for him there. But tracking his first

736
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 13: base defense all spring that'll be the big thing with him.

737
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 13: That's kind of the thing he has to prove.

738
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: I know you wrote about TJ. Friedel getting some spots

739
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: in left field. I know he started yesterday. Is there

740
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: a timeline on win We'll see Spencer Steer in the

741
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: outfield more.

742
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 13: I asked Terry Francona that this morning because he's been

743
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 13: playing first, and he's a guy who I expected to

744
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 13: play maybe the third or fourth most games at first

745
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 13: of the Reds this year. Car Francona said his strategy,

746
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 13: his style is you let the guys get their feet

747
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 13: under them and get comfortable where they're most comfortable, and

748
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 13: then you start to move it around. So a different scenario,

749
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 13: but like you reminded me of like last year, Gavin Luck,

750
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 13: you know, play second, and then they started moving him

751
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 13: in the outfield and stuff. I believe on the board,

752
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 13: you're still officially lifted lifted as an outfielder, So like

753
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 13: obviously he'll play a lot of infield, but I think

754
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 13: that's I'm pretty sure that's how they view him primarily.

755
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 13: And Tito said this morning he'll be at this year.

756
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's like this everywhere, Charlie, but

757
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: every spring I'm kind of in awe of watching because

758
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: you see guys like Eric Davis and Barry Larkin who

759
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: are so entrenched with this organization, but they're not just

760
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: there at spring training. It feels like everything I see

761
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: that they are extremely involved on a day to day

762
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: process with these players. Just talk about that the veteran

763
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: greats that have played for the Cincinnati Reds and their

764
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 3: willingness to give back and try to help these guys

765
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 3: get to where they.

766
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: Want to go.

767
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 13: Different people, different players relate better with different types of people.

768
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 13: Some guys need a scientist, some guys need someone who's

769
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 13: been in the big leagues for twenty years. Like a

770
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 13: great example that's Cabrian Hayes, who I've seen spending a

771
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 13: lot of time talking with Barry Larkin. Cabrian Hayes the

772
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 13: son of a longtime big leaguer, his game and his style,

773
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 13: and he's spoken very high talk to Cabrian for thirty

774
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 13: minutes Yesterday's but very highly of Chris Blaka. Cabrian also

775
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 13: has had success working kind of with these old school

776
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 13: veteran coaches to kind of see the game in that

777
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 13: way and you his game in that way.

778
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 9: And I've seen.

779
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 13: Cabrian and Barry talk a lot about hitting and talk

780
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 13: a lot about where he makes contact and that being

781
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 13: something that's beneficial for him. So having those perspectives and

782
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 13: that authority, do you know, kind of say something that

783
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 13: might not, you know, be the most fun thing to

784
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 13: say to a player who needs it. That's something that

785
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 13: I know has made an impact for a lot of

786
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 13: these players, like Eric Davis taught Resigns how to play

787
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 13: the outfield, Like you have a lot of stories that

788
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 13: come up in my mind when you talk about guys

789
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 13: like that.

790
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: As a follow up to that, do they have just

791
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: kind of free reign to speak where they feel like

792
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 2: somebody needs to work on something or something that they notice,

793
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 2: or is there like a directive they work with the

794
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: coaching staff to say, I want you to work with

795
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: this specific player about this or is it just kind

796
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: of whatever you notice help them out.

797
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 13: That's a good question. I bet there are some areas

798
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 13: where they feel like, yes, let's just say this lock

799
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 13: in here, and then the other areas. You want to

800
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 13: make sure the guys aren't getting the messages. They want

801
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 13: to have some communication before. So now you don't tell

802
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 13: this player to keep your hands back while they h

803
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 13: didn't coach you selling him to keep your hands forward.

804
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 13: But I don't get this outswer that that really comes up.

805
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 13: They are very involved, direct communicative with these players. I'll

806
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 13: even say with Barry in particular, over the last two years,

807
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 13: he's gone from a guy who I saw primarily on

808
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 13: the minor league set of camp to a guy on

809
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 13: the major league side of camp, and so that's been

810
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 13: a difference there.

811
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: The other thing I've heard a lot of this week,

812
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: now that we're well over a week into spring training

813
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 2: games is ABS strategy. Yeah, can you kind of explain

814
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: what the strategy or the discourse around the strategy and

815
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: is there any indication what the Reds strategy for ABS

816
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: will be.

817
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 13: I think that they've seen this in camp and they've

818
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 13: they've been like, we got to get to work on

819
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 13: this because personally I feel this way and no others

820
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 13: feel this way as well. It has a much bigger

821
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 13: impact in the play of games than we were expecting,

822
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 13: like the pitch clock or you know, the bigger base.

823
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: Is like that.

824
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 13: Sure there were some tweaks and maybe ran more, but

825
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 13: that didn't change the way you scout and game plan

826
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 13: for an opponent. I think could do that, and the

827
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 13: smartest teams are gonna be the one that find the best,

828
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 13: most useful leverage situations to swing. And yesterday that was

829
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 13: a excuse me, a two to one count for World

830
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 13: Benson and like the fifth inning, and I swear to

831
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 13: God and they feel the same way. A challenge I

832
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 13: do a three to one count which led to a

833
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 13: walk which loaded the bases and then Marte cleared them

834
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 13: and that was the difference in the game. Here's where

835
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 13: I'm at, all right, So it reminds me a lot

836
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 13: of fourth down decisions in football because there's that combination

837
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 13: of field and analytics. I think during the regular season, Like,

838
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 13: not that you'll do this, I'm not trying to program

839
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 13: your show. You could do a full segment every day.

840
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 13: Here's where the Reds use their challenges.

841
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 14: Was it right?

842
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 6: Was it wrong?

843
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 13: How did that impact the flow of the game, Just

844
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 13: like you could do a full segment after a football

845
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 13: game on the team's fourth down decision making from the

846
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 13: previous game, Like it has that type of impact, and

847
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 13: it has that type of debate potential, and that of

848
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 13: course include dust and that those debates will certainly be

849
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 13: had throughout the organization.

850
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 2: Well, feel free to if you have any segment ideas,

851
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: don't be afraid to pass them a law.

852
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: The guys are doing fine, Charlie as uh as we transition. Obviously,

853
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 3: spring training in full swing. Also, the NFL combine is happening.

854
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: Duke Tobin, Zach Taylor, Dan Pitcher, Al Golden Darren Simmons,

855
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: have you have you been able to take away anything

856
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: in the messaging you've heard from the personnel and the

857
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: coaches from the Bengals at what they're looking to accomplish

858
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 3: here at Indy.

859
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 13: My read and I really believe this is that the

860
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 13: Bengals know exactly what they want. They know the specific

861
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 13: archetypes and styles en rolled that they'd like to assemble

862
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 13: to construct the specific defensive identity that they're looking for.

863
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 13: And my question, I think there's something that they and

864
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 13: I think something that they can't even truly know the

865
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 13: answer to right now is whether or not they're going

866
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 13: to be able to get all that done. And that's

867
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 13: not necessarily because they're busy with other stuff like they

868
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 13: were last year. They have the cap space to do it,

869
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 13: but in a moving market with a billion things going on,

870
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 13: in a bad class at defensive tackle, with some uncertainty

871
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 13: if you know the guy's wide view as the true

872
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 13: real three day one difference makers in the draft at

873
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 13: pick ten, that would be Bailey, they would be bane

874
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 13: that would be Down. You look at them a certainty

875
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 13: if any of those guys are going to be on

876
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 13: the board, Like I don't know that you can necessarily say,

877
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 13: like we can guarantee this off season, we'll go according

878
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 13: to plan A. So that's my concern as well as

879
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 13: you know, they've got to do a better job of

880
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 13: understanding the people they're bringing into the building and how

881
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 13: that impact the people the whole. That's something they'll need

882
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 13: to do better.

883
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Speaker 9: This year as well.

884
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Speaker 13: So those are the questions I have. But what I

885
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 13: do have our answers. Here's what they're looking for in

886
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 13: the line, here's what they're looking for at linebacker, Here's

887
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 13: what they're looking for in the secondary.

888
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: Austin, do you think you would describe Charlie as potential

889
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 3: a force multiplier?

890
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 2: I think I would. Yeah, I think there's no doubt

891
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: about that. I mean, just look what Fox nineteen has

892
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: done since his edition. Yeah, Charlie, do you see yourself

893
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 2: as a force multiplier?

894
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 13: That ties him? Thank you, That ties in them what

895
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 13: they're looking for. And so the idea I'm fascinated by

896
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 13: is that Al Golden didn't get to really show who

897
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 13: he really was last season just because he had to

898
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 13: simple five things to such an extreme extent. So there

899
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 13: is this versatility and scheme developments three hundred four hundred

900
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 13: five hundred level that he showed some on Thursday night

901
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 13: and Thanksgiving. I think that was kind of a tease,

902
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 13: this is what I want to do. We're just not

903
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 13: there yet. And having those types of players actually would

904
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 13: give you the vision of what the al Golden Defense

905
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Speaker 13: really is all about. So that's combination of versatility and

906
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 13: creativity and blitzing and all of that stuff piece together

907
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 13: ties into kind of my biggest takeaway from now, which

908
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Speaker 13: is he knows exactly what he's looking for and he

909
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Speaker 13: kind of hopes he gets the chance to show it.

910
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Speaker 13: His defense is actually supposed to be all about.

911
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: The one thing I can't stop thinking about from when

912
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin was talking to you guys was that he

913
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 2: described fourth round picks as Geno Atkins. He used every

914
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Speaker 2: single fourth round pick basically as Geno Atkins. And also

915
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Speaker 2: the answer about big swings in big misses. I don't

916
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Speaker 2: know that we necessarily learned anything. I think we just

917
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: heard him say it. What was your takeaway from the

918
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Speaker 2: answer about their philosophy with the value of picks and

919
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 2: with big swings.

920
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Speaker 13: I think there's one way in Duke's messaging that, like,

921
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Speaker 13: I think he's not a bit wrong. But like the

922
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Speaker 13: big swing with Tian Jamar, that was the big swing,

923
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Speaker 13: that was the right swing, and that takes away your

924
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 13: chances to make.

925
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Speaker 9: Other big swings.

926
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Speaker 13: You know, if you didn't have Kan Jamar, maybe you

927
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Speaker 13: have more of a conversation about Max Crosby. But because

928
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Speaker 13: you're paying King Jamorrow, because that was the right move

929
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Speaker 13: to make, you'd be too heavy if you then spent

930
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Speaker 13: for one of those superstars while also going out and

931
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Speaker 13: trading the draft capital would take to get them. So

932
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Speaker 13: but the flip side of that is, you know the

933
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Speaker 13: way they Duke has talked about free agency from last

934
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Speaker 13: year because he said, well, we got four hundred million

935
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Speaker 13: dollars worth of deals done.

936
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Speaker 9: Well, really, no, you didn't.

937
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Speaker 13: So Jamar and t were the big swings. They've done

938
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Speaker 13: the big swing, but it has to be different. And

939
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Speaker 13: you know when you asked about free agency last year,

940
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Speaker 13: he goes to those guys, No, you got to do

941
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Speaker 13: more with the external free agencystem.

942
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Speaker 2: The next time we talked to you, Charlie, the deadline

943
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Speaker 2: on whether or not to tag Trey Hendrickson will have passed.

944
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Speaker 2: I get the feeling that they're not going to do it.

945
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Speaker 2: Do you think it's really a possibility, and how do

946
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: you anticipate that plane out?

947
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Speaker 13: So here's what I've heard. I've tried to say this

948
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Speaker 13: in a few different ways over the last year and

949
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Speaker 13: a half. Has anyone ever heard that there's this robust

950
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 13: trade market for trade Henderson?

951
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: True?

952
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 13: And if there was this robust trade market for tre Henderson,

953
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Speaker 13: I really don't think he'd have even made it to

954
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 13: last season with the Yeah, whether or not that would

955
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Speaker 13: have been an off season dealer or a trade deadline deal.

956
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Speaker 13: So Trey one of the best free agents signed in

957
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Speaker 13: Bengals history. I think he's actually going to sustain a

958
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Speaker 13: pretty decent career after this. But from what I've heard,

959
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 13: the trade value that Trey brings to the table right

960
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 13: now doesn't really do it for you.

961
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Speaker 2: Let's say that, you know, they let him walk and

962
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Speaker 2: he's a free agent, and then they could get a

963
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 2: compensatory pick next year for him. That obviously is relying

964
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Speaker 2: upon how much they do in free agency. Do you

965
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Speaker 2: think there could be a trickle down effect on what

966
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: they do in this free agency because of how much

967
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 2: they value draft picks next year? Is am I making sense?

968
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 2: Am I getting too far in the weeds?

969
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 13: Sure, they might not be there yet, They might not

970
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 13: be good enough yet to live that way, But I

971
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Speaker 13: know the ideal plan is not having to really worry

972
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 13: about that offset spending because you're extending so many guys, right,

973
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 13: That's where the extension stuff comes into this, because some

974
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 13: of this money is going to Dax and DJ Turner,

975
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 13: maybe Chase Brown. Well, now you're rolling because that doesn't

976
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 13: take away from your compix. So now, are they there

977
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 13: yet at a point where they can just live through

978
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 13: extensions and not to as much in free agency? No,

979
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 13: but that's what they're trying to get.

980
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: How many times have you mixed up Chase Brown and

981
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: Chase Burns over the last week.

982
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 13: It's happening a lot. It's happening a lot, and I'm

983
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 13: worried about it. The hardest one I always say was

984
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 13: Jesse Winker with and with no I versus Jesse Bates whom.

985
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 3: I yeah, Charlie for our beloved Bearcats, uh oh? If

986
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 3: we can win the final three of the regular season

987
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 3: and win two in the Big Twelve tournament, can we

988
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 3: hear our names on selection Sunday?

989
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 13: The Bearcats a program still with strong loyal believers who

990
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 13: are just ready and waiting for a winner. Yeah, like

991
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 13: this isn't an original take, but the standard should be

992
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 13: hired in this. The team should be better than this.

993
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 13: I hope that they can always for the rest of

994
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 13: their life. Everyone on this team, you know, Jalen cell

995
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 13: a team look back at that Kansas win. Anything that

996
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 13: happens from here does not take away from what that

997
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 13: Kansas win can mean to these guys as individuals. But

998
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 13: I don't. I'm still excited to watch, and I appreciate

999
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 13: the way this team has fought. But I think we this.

1000
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: Season is what it is fair enough.

1001
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: Charlie, you are our force multiplier on Fridays. We appreciate you.

1002
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 3: What's the easiest way to follow along with everything you

1003
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 3: got going on?

1004
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 13: Charlie Schockport on Substack on Fox nineteen got the Power

1005
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 13: Stacks podcast is well, it's a fun time of year.

1006
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 2: Love it, Charlie Man, see guys, Charlie Goldsmith, there he is.

1007
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I think officially listed as an executive producer

1008
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 2: of the show. Yep, and force multiplier with the idea, well,

1009
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: there's a that's a perfect example. Yep. That literally is

1010
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: a perfect example. You could do it entire same, Okay,

1011
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: we will deal abs segment every day. That's something else

1012
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: that won't get sponsored.

1013
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 3: Thank you, Charlie. Your talkbacks also non sponsored. Next ESPN

1014
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1015
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 15: Hey, Alexa footbacks, Press the microphone and record your message

1016
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 15: for Austin and.

1017
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 16: Tone, please keep it clean and don't be mean, and

1018
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 16: a sprinkle sprinkle, drip drips.

1019
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: It's that kind of talkbacks.

1020
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 15: It's our favorite part of SINCY three sixty.

1021
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: So Austin, buddy, play those.

1022
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 15: Talkbacks on your screen and please drive out to sabotage.

1023
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: It is you, the listener's opportunity to voice whatever you'd

1024
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 3: like to voice with us here on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1025
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 3: It is talkbacks, and they happen right now. A quick

1026
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 3: piece of information before we get to them. It was

1027
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Speaker 3: approved this morning by the Miami Diversity Board of Trustees

1028
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 3: or whoever it is that votes on that stuff, the

1029
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 3: new arena or the RedHawks over there by where Cookfield

1030
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Speaker 3: is then Oxford, So the renditions look sweet for that deal.

1031
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: I know a lot of students very happy about it,

1032
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 3: alumni very unhappy about it, but I do think it'll

1033
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: end up being a net positive.

1034
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: I need one of these, John.

1035
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Speaker 17: John.

1036
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Speaker 12: Have they admired Zach Taylor yet?

1037
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Speaker 18: The groun?

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Speaker 13: My good?

1039
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: He just never misses sixty three? Am I need more

1040
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Speaker 2: of those that. I mean, he's gotta be my He

1041
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 2: might be my favorite listener. Just you think Sheila Gray

1042
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 2: ever listens like what is going on the six forty.

1043
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 2: I actually told Sheila about this recently. I was like,

1044
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if you know this

1045
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: or not, but you're like kind of a star of

1046
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: our show. We have this guy who just puts your

1047
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: names in songs all the time. She was honored by it. Good.

1048
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 2: I don't know if she'd be honored if she heard him,

1049
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: but she was honored.

1050
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, marcous from the grave, Marcus, since the announcement

1051
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 11: is now official that you guys are going back to

1052
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 11: smoke Justice on opening day if it's allowed, I think

1053
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 11: a great idea would to get talkback Joe Zara Hewson

1054
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 11: to come and when the opening day lineup is announced

1055
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 11: on air and announced the lineup.

1056
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 2: I think that's a really good idea. Imagine, I think

1057
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 2: that's a really good idea and Red's fans to smoke Justice.

1058
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 15: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan weal things are

1059
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 15: really heating up here. At the presidential combine, wide receiver

1060
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Speaker 15: Abe Lincoln was so fast in his one hundred yard

1061
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 15: dash that it took his shadow two point seven seconds

1062
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Speaker 15: to catch up. Oh my god. Oh, and future defensive

1063
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 15: tackle William Howard Taft amazed everyone when his shadow weighed

1064
00:52:58,760 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 15: in at two point seven.

1065
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 2: Oh my lord.

1066
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 15: And by the way, my favorite sports quote is, let's

1067
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 15: win one for the kipper.

1068
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a good one. You want

1069
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: to talk about plugging up the middle? Oh, William Howard,

1070
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Speaker 2: taff Hey, Greg Sharonville.

1071
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Speaker 6: If Miami would lose two of their last regular season

1072
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 6: games and lost the first game in the conference tournament,

1073
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 6: my question is would they be in trouble?

1074
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: I think they would. Yeah, if they lost three in

1075
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 2: a row, they would make it. But I don't.

1076
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 3: I think if they lost two, they'd be in trouble.

1077
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: But I don't see him doing that.

1078
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Speaker 13: Ope.

1079
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Speaker 2: Do you know what the leading cause of dry skin is?

1080
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Speaker 7: Towels?

1081
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I get it, towels. Ask people kind of tree?

1082
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 7: It is no ask people kind of tree. It is

1083
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 7: no ask people kind of tree. It is kind of

1084
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Speaker 7: treat is it?

1085
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Speaker 2: Yep? I know we'd get there eventually, Tony Pin, I

1086
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 2: know we'd get there eventually. Yeah, I think you needed that.

1087
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: I think maybe your head had gotten a little had

1088
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Speaker 2: a big signing bonus and all these new endorsements.

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Speaker 7: That's what I need.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, sure, Tony's good friend brother brother talk about Ruben

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Speaker 19: Bain arm length. I remember back in like in twenty

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Speaker 19: twenty two when Tyler Linda Maum was like a he

1093
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Speaker 19: fell down a like number twenty five, I think for

1094
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 19: the Ravens because he had short arms. They said his

1095
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 19: arm were too short, but the Ravens took a chance

1096
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 19: on him anyway. And look where he's at right now,

1097
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 19: probably the top one of the top centers in all.

1098
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point. Yeah, I hope he slides

1099
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: down to ten, Come on down. Could you imagine number

1100
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: ten Bane and Down's both there?

1101
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 20: Oh?

1102
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: Oh I would? I would? I assume, Well, I can't

1103
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 2: assume anything. Let's assume for the moment that we're going

1104
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: to be actually talking about the draft when it's happening

1105
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: on the air. That would be a biggest, a huge assumption.

1106
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 2: But good. I'd start drinking as soon as that, we'd

1107
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: start celebrating. Might buy a round for everybody. Wow, because hell,

1108
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: we're getting a game changer. So then they go and

1109
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 2: pick Caleb Banks game day daycare. Man, I got to

1110
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: pay for daycare when I go to work. And it's

1111
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 2: not like they're paying for it every day. You know,

1112
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 2: they make a lot of money. I don't think the

1113
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: paying for it's the issue.

1114
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 21: Hey, babysit are ten eleven times a year.

1115
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: I don't think that. I think I think they would

1116
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: pay for it that's available. Yeah, the players would pay

1117
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: for it. That's the point. It's just not available option.

1118
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: I mean they would put that in and I players

1119
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: would if it matters this much to them, and with

1120
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 2: the amount of money you make, it would gladly pay.

1121
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 22: For that, correct, guys The Kahona, Kentucky. I disagree with

1122
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 22: Dan Pitcher. I like the defense. I'd like to have

1123
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 22: the defensive mindset and be conservative. The team that makes

1124
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 22: the fewest mistakes usually wins the game. Victory favors the

1125
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 22: team that makes the fewest mistakes. And you know, mistakes

1126
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 22: ain't always turnovers, it's mental wears, the little things. I

1127
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 22: can but I mean, I disagree. As a coach, you're

1128
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 22: going to put him in the position to make the

1129
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 22: few of the stakes, makes the simplest thing that the

1130
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 22: other team mess up.

1131
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 2: I disagree with pitch. That's why we stink. I never

1132
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: know if he's pulling our chain or not. I don't

1133
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 2: think he's a very bright guy. But I will say

1134
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 2: this scared money, don't make no money.

1135
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 21: More and more I look at it, Sonny Styles is

1136
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 21: probably the guy we need. We need a safety, we

1137
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 21: need another lineback. He could be guys like a high

1138
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 21: Ridth runs a four to four. If the Bengals want

1139
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 21: to be more explosive on first and second down, no defense,

1140
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 21: in my mind, is afraid of andre Yoshabaz. You gotta

1141
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 21: go out there and get that spot receiver that someone

1142
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 21: can be afraid of. Bengals like to run a lot

1143
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 21: of twelve personnel. So how about on first and second

1144
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 21: down we get Kasiki a little bit more involved. He

1145
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 21: can be a downfield threat. He wasn't brought in here

1146
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 21: to block. Let him Cook as well.

1147
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 2: All right, what if you get one of the safeties

1148
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: that's available, guy like Brian Cook or Kobe Bryant or

1149
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: any of those guys. Maybe even draft one in the

1150
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: second round. Okay, but at number ten, you take Sonny

1151
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: styles and you just run to Tampa two with his

1152
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 2: big ass in the middle all day. That would reinvent

1153
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: the game Tampa two.

1154
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 20: I'll tell you, Tony, Austin Leroy, down here in Fallace,

1155
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 20: I think the Reds need some country hospitality. I'd be

1156
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 20: more than happy to throw my hat in the ring

1157
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 20: as the director of player can. I'll bring some moonshine,

1158
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 20: I'll go whole hog, We'll go all in it. We'll

1159
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 20: be an A plus by next year. Like I said,

1160
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 20: some moonshine, some country fixings, a little bit of southern hospitality,

1161
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 20: and we'll get that f turn right around to an a.

1162
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Leroy, I think you meant the Bengals okay, And

1163
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: a reminder in Fallama they do things differently. I'm gonna

1164
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: I want to issue this as a reminder, and I

1165
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: think maybe now is a good time to do it.

1166
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: You can listen to the talkback before you submit it,

1167
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: and I think some of you should really take advantage

1168
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: of utilize that that opportunity.

1169
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 9: This might help Austin that Dutch rub is a nookie.

1170
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: Right yeah, middle yeah. I looked at up. I just

1171
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: didn't know if I was allowed to say that. On

1172
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: the air. Yeah, that's how I was staying away from all.

1173
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 16: I just like, I sure hope that Styles could make

1174
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 16: it the ten for us. Probably not, but man, that'd

1175
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 16: be nice. That guy could change a whole team by himself.

1176
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 16: I think that man is just something else.

1177
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: Man, it'd be great to get him. Instead, we'll probably

1178
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 2: get an offensive lineing. All right, have a good one.

1179
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna get to the point where people

1180
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 3: are gonna be mad regardless of who we take.

1181
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 13: Speaking of noogies, I think we could get Terry Nelson

1182
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 13: to give Wes Miller one.

1183
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: That seems like he'd be the great hype for it.

1184
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: I haven't gotten one in a while since I lost

1185
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: all that lettters. Maybe that's why I lost it. I

1186
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 2: had so many of them.

1187
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 23: Yeah, some guys, Big John Kentucky, Sorry for the double dip,

1188
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 23: but I just got to commend you on getting the

1189
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 23: A list guess on today at Mike in La. I

1190
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 23: mean that guy got six and a half minutes a

1191
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 23: bunch of gibberish dud drugs. I mean, what a gas

1192
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 23: you all pulled today. I mean, not everybody's getting mic

1193
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 23: in La on. Good job, guys.

1194
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love when Tony just lets him go talking

1195
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: about stuff we've already talked about.

1196
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 14: Hey, guys, pull from Cleaves here, do you think Major

1197
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 14: League Baseball has a person or a staff that actually tests,

1198
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 14: you know, like velocity. If these young guys are throwing

1199
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 14: so hard, if they cross this threshold, they're actually gonna

1200
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 14: are ruined their arm or they're gonna, you know, tear

1201
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 14: something or anything like that. You know, do you think

1202
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 14: there's information out there, you know, for Major League teams

1203
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 14: about that.

1204
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: It would make sense, right, some sort of medical study.

1205
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: I would believe that you would think that there. Yes, hey, guys.

1206
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 14: Pull from Cleaves with the double up here. Hey, just

1207
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 14: wanted to give another shout out to my son UW.

1208
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 14: You just placed second at the CHL Wrestling Championships last weekend. Yeah,

1209
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 14: as a freshman, you know, one hundred and eighty eight

1210
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 14: pounds wrestling two fifteen. I gotta give him a shout

1211
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 14: out of futures looking bright. But of course, Tony, you're

1212
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 14: running blue Devils won the league championship for like the

1213
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 14: third time in four years or something like that. So yeah,

1214
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 14: reading real work to do. Reading wrestling is kind of

1215
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 14: like NKU basketball. When March comes around.

1216
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 2: Okay, so is that what you guys are good at

1217
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: now and not at anything else? Everything? Everything? This is

1218
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: c note from nk Y C. Trick. I got a

1219
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 2: couple of things. Okay, get rid of Trey Hendrickson. Okay.

1220
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: I've never seen somebody look like they're gonna cry every

1221
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 2: time they walk off the field. Secondly, go ahead, get

1222
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: rid of Trey Hendrickson. Okay, it seems like a bright

1223
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: guy here. Oh Carter.

1224
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 17: C.

1225
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: Note again. All right, I'm gonna double tip. Okay, get

1226
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 2: rid of Hunter Green. Oh my god, the most overrated

1227
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: pitcher ever. Oh goodness, go get a bat they did today.

1228
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: Love you guys the first time.

1229
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 23: Talk back.

1230
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: Well, thanks for leaving one. Love you too. I disagree

1231
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 2: vehemently with your Hunter Green take. Ye, I do agree

1232
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: with your Trey Henderson take buddy. If Hunter Green was

1233
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 2: making twenty million dollars a year, that's a much more

1234
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 2: understandable conversation. He ain't Tody.

1235
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 18: Also, George Goday, if the Buck guys have all these

1236
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 18: first drops we talked about this, George.

1237
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 2: The top five, I mean, top ten, whatever it is.

1238
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you not question Ryan Day?

1239
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 8: Crime Day can't coach.

1240
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 7: We all know it. That's the that's the morrow of

1241
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 7: the story here. I mean, he should have won the

1242
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 7: national championship this year, probably year before.

1243
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did the year before.

1244
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,959
Speaker 7: He doesn't go fire tonight.

1245
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: He did win it the year before. And while you

1246
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 2: were taking your sabbatical away from radio, we did eviscerate

1247
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 2: Ryan Day for how badly he screwed up in the

1248
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: Big Ten championship game and the college football playoffs. We

1249
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: did that, but you weren't listening. What's up, guys, TJ

1250
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 2: east Side, Happy Friday?

1251
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 24: Hey, some of my favorite things about Sincy three sixty Oh,

1252
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 24: listening to Tony laid down the absolute backs, all these articulate,

1253
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 24: insightful breakdowns of all things sports. Even on those occasions

1254
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 24: when he's completely rounic, it's still allot out and hearing

1255
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 24: the Bengals grades of team ownership.

1256
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 2: There is no argument that can.

1257
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 24: Erase spin or layout, some subterfuge of Mike Brown's third

1258
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 24: year reign of being the exact.

1259
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: Opposite of a force multiplier. Oh my god, he ain't whude.

1260
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 2: You're saying, not a force multiplier, force multiplayer. Dang, but

1261
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: that's what they're looking for.

1262
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 15: Charlie Goldsmith is a force multiplier.

1263
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it.

1264
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 25: Thank you do, Tobin, No, I mean he yeah, I

1265
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 25: hear he Like I said, Man, I'd like to hear

1266
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 25: him break down down John Ross, break down the offensive lineman.

1267
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 9: Carmen Electra, let's hear.

1268
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: About those break down John.

1269
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 25: Let's see if the Bearcats can get a victory, get

1270
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 25: red hawks.

1271
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 3: Did you say, Carmen electric? Yeah, could you imagine like it? Hey, Duke,

1272
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 3: I know that we've talked about Gino Watkins and Andrew Whitworth.

1273
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 3: Can you talk a little bit about John Ross.

1274
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 26: It's finally clear they got to bring back the grass.

1275
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 26: Come on, Bengals, bring back the grass. The year after

1276
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 26: Joe Burrow had a turf toe injury, it's a perfect

1277
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 26: time to bring back the grass.

1278
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 12: And also, for the love of goodness, get them a

1279
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 12: daycare and a team room and a point of contact

1280
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 12: that is easy. You're embarrassing us from Cincinnati, Bengals.

1281
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, do the easy stuff. I would

1282
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: I wish they had grass.

1283
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 6: To all.

1284
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 2: Let's see Ruben Bain's arm length as a detractor as

1285
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: a problem as a reason to not draft him. I

1286
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 2: offer this did it hold back to t Rex.

1287
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 7: I would want to face Longe.

1288
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 2: Good point, that's great. That might be the end all

1289
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 2: be all.

1290
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, what do you call a guy with no shims?

1291
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 22: Tony?

1292
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 2: I get it, that's good. I get there's some mic

1293
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: from LA haters. I get it. I was one of

1294
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: you guys. He grew on me after a while. And

1295
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 2: now I think about it, and I know he's in

1296
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 2: the bad spot. When he's gone, I'm gonna miss him.

1297
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 24: I'm gonna miss his his ten minutes speels, I'm no,

1298
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 24: and since he three to six, yeah, so I wish

1299
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 24: him the best.

1300
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 2: I yeah, this is not I'm not being critical of

1301
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: Mike at all. We all feel that way, just like

1302
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: every single one of us. He has good days.

1303
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 7: Joe Dogs, Brian from La, Tony, Stephanie Baker.

1304
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 3: Or Live Morgan, Live Morgan. I think Live Morgan takes it.

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01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 3: Is that a wrestling thing? Yeah, elimination Chambers.

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01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 21: I really got nothing to say, but I just wanted

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01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 21: to hear my voice on the radio and the Bengals

1308
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 21: can go eight And.

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01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: I get where you're coming from, Jim. I appreciate you. Jim.

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01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 2: Has you want to talk about growth and development? Yeah,

1311
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 2: Jim has got you want talk about. Oh yeah, that's very.

1312
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 16: True, Tony, Austin, balling ain't easy.

1313
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: This weather out here is freaking gorgeous.

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01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 19: I love it.

1315
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: Get to the gym. I want to go play basketball, honestly.

1316
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 16: I want to go go down to Canan Park and

1317
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 16: chuck some threes.

1318
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 2: That's what I want to do. Maybe I will.

1319
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 16: I need to start getting some shots up there in preparation.

1320
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 7: You never start doing rims as well.

1321
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 16: It would probably's book, that's for sure.

1322
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 3: It'd probably do old balling e balling well. To get

1323
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 3: some shots up before the tournament, no doubt about it,

1324
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,959
Speaker 3: No doubt about it about it. We'll take a break

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01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 3: one segment when we return, and we've got Tom Gallaid,

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01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 3: Bob Manjean Moegger, and Moore coming up in our number

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Speaker 3: three on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: From the Johnson Heating Tempstar Weather Center. Here's welcome back.

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01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 3: It is since he three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty

1330
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. Tom Gallader, the voice of FC Cincinnati,

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01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 3: will join us at the top of our number three.

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01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 3: We didn't mention this at the top, Austin, what'd you

1333
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 3: make of your guy Aaron Glenn yesterday at the combine.

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01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 2: Hilarious, What a bad moment if you see it.

1335
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 3: They're showing combine drills and they flash up to the

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01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 3: suite in which Aaron Glenn, the coach of the Jets,

1337
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 3: is in, and there ain't no other way around it.

1338
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: He was sleeping. He was asleep at the wheel. And

1339
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 3: I get it, like tombine has long days. A lot

1340
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 3: of these times the coaches and other executives are going

1341
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 3: out to eat in the bars, and that's where a

1342
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 3: lot of the deals get done, they say at the combine.

1343
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: So I get it.

1344
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 3: Late nights, early mornings, long days. It's not a good look.

1345
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 3: And it wasn't just like it flashed on all the

1346
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 3: TVs because you could see the screen behind him had

1347
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 3: him on the screen clearly sleeping, and I can only

1348
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 3: imagine someone in the booth either hit him or yelled

1349
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 3: at him, and he just did not do a good

1350
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 3: job of hiding it.

1351
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: When he woke up, I think somebody yelled at him

1352
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 2: and said hey, Air, and you could tell he kind

1353
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 2: of woke up.

1354
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 3: There had a good look when your team didn't forced

1355
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 3: to turn over all year and you got defensive players

1356
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 3: out there running.

1357
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 2: Zero interceptions for Aaron Glenn whose superpower is play calling, yep,

1358
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 2: and is supposed to be a defensive mastermind. Yep. You know,

1359
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 2: if that's the head coach of the Tennessee Titans or

1360
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, maybe we don't talk about it as much. Aha,

1361
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: that's funny. But when it's the head coach of the

1362
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 2: New York Jets, this is how my brain works. I

1363
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 2: was so jealous of New York sports talk radio when

1364
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 2: that moment happened. Yep, because I knew that they are

1365
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 2: to have been Yeah, show is done. They're having a

1366
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: field day. This guy is sleeping.

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01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 13: Now.

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01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 3: You mentioned the term defensive mastermind? Correct who Aaron Glenn?

1369
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 2: Well?

1370
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 3: Allegedly? Well, most things are alleged. I look at today

1371
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 3: and I think of another defensive mastermind. We talked about

1372
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 3: twenty seven days away from Red's opening day. How can

1373
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 3: you not think of one? Scott Rowland.

1374
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking of Nino bon Giovanni. Oh they

1375
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: called him El Nino, didn't they. I don't know if

1376
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 2: they called him that. Oh, but I mean you you

1377
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 2: who could forget him? Sixty six games in the nineteen

1378
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 2: thirty nine gameign yep six doubles for the Reds that year.

1379
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 3: Now, when I was a young lad, my family would

1380
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 3: take me to Reds games. Really, and when I went

1381
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 3: to games growing up, I did. And when I would

1382
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 3: go to Reds games, I would not be going to

1383
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:00,799
Speaker 3: the Red Stadium.

1384
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 2: This is legit.

1385
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 3: I would be going to Jose Riho's house. Oh, that

1386
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 3: is what I referred to the stadium as throughout most

1387
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 3: of my childhood.

1388
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would would argue with you.

1389
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 3: Hey, where are you going? We're going to Jose Riho's house.

1390
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 3: And it was his house from nineteen eighty eight to

1391
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 3: two thousand and two.

1392
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: Hey, your buddy Bill Cunningham used to go to Jose

1393
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: Riho's house all the time, like his actual house. Really,

1394
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 2: I think they were neighbors and besties for a long Yeah,

1395
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 2: Jose Riho's house. What about Philip Irvin, Oh, there was

1396
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: a moment in time where I thought Phil Irvin was

1397
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 2: the future.

1398
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 3: What about one Drew Sutton? No, thank you, I didn't

1399
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 3: say John Dutton. I said Drew Sutton.

1400
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: How about Ernie Lombardi and Johnny Vandermere. Now that's a

1401
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: good one, both of them. If I'm not mistaken. This

1402
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 2: is their second appearance on this countdown. It's a multiple

1403
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 2: uniform numbers for the Reds. Yeah, of course, Trevor Bauer.

1404
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 2: What about Glenn Gorbis? What about Matt Kemp? Only about

1405
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 2: nine years past his prime? Matt camp he had that

1406
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 2: one homer That was kind of cool.

1407
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 7: Yep.

1408
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,839
Speaker 2: The twenty nineteen Reds were supposed to be special.

1409
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1410
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 2: Also Bauer and Kemp both wore that number the same season. Yeah,

1411
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 2: because Matt Kemp eventually got DFAD. Trevor Bauer got traded

1412
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 2: for of course Rake Frayley is in there. Jeff Keppinger.

1413
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 2: Jeff Keppinger, Wow, you want to talk about high socks? Yep,

1414
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 2: Old Jeff Capp Yep. Now we Jene Locklear. Oh they

1415
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 2: called him main Jen didn't he? Wis an ant mean? Gene?

1416
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 2: Maybe pistol? Pete well said. The first Red to wear

1417
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: number twenty seven was Tony Rebello in nineteen thirty three.

1418
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 2: He played in a total of sixteen games for Threads.

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01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 3: Now we're not on the next two days, so we're

1421
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 3: gonna miss days twenty six and twenty five. But of

1422
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 3: course I would be remiss not to mention the great

1423
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 3: Willie Mopenna, of course, who rocked the number twenty six

1424
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 3: for a couple of years for the Cincinnati Red Legs.

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01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 2: Willy Mopena. I went to a game once, and I

1426
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 2: got there early for batting practice, and Willie Mo hit

1427
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 2: a scorcher down the line, and there was a woman

1428
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 2: in the left field seats right next to the foul pole,

1429
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 2: reading a book during batting practice. Oh and this ball

1430
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 2: was zeroing in on her. And we, much like people

1431
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 2: yelling at Aaron Glenn, are like, hey, hey, watch out.

1432
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 2: She looked up right as the ball made contact with

1433
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 2: her face, and as a young man, I have never

1434
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: seen that much blood. Ever, they didn't see the game

1435
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 2: Willie Mo. I hope she's okay. I don't think anything

1436
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 2: he's listening today significant ever happened to her. But she

1437
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 2: got tore up by old Willie Moe.

1438
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 3: I also think of number twenty five, and you think

1439
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 3: of the great Dave Stormy weathers man Dimitri Young both

1440
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 3: Donnie the number twenty five. No red has worn number

1441
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 3: twenty five, by the way, since the twenty eighteen season,

1442
01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 3: when Cody Reid did it so well and Cisco you

1443
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 3: remember him? What do you what number you talk about

1444
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 3: twenty five. Oh twenty five okay, yeah, got up. So

1445
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 3: we're not gonna be here the next year, right, I

1446
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 3: just wanted to get ahead of it.

1447
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 2: Ray Knight, Oh wow, Gus Bell, Buddy Bell, Todd Bensinger,

1448
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 2: how about Ken Griffy wore it? Yeah in nineteen eighty eight.

1449
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 3: That's strenge Todd Benzinger catching the last out of the

1450
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety world.

1451
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: So you mentioned David Weathers, and every time I think

1452
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: of David Weathers, I'm sure a lot of Reds fans

1453
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 2: are like me. They think of George Grand when David

1454
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 2: Weathers would come into a game and he'd say, it's

1455
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: a nice night for Stormy Weathers. Yep, God bless George Grand.

1456
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 2: He's the best dude. Love that guy. Oh, Tom Gletter

1457
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 2: is next, we'll talk to him. He's no George Grand.

1458
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 3: Since we can get a phone caller too in an

1459
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 3: hour number three as well. Since he three sixty on

1460
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: It's Tony Pikes since sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati. This

1462
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back.

1464
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 3: Let's get started our number three since c three sixty

1465
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 3: on a Friday, which means you already know what time

1466
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 3: it is. The voice of FC Cincinnati, the Orange and Blue,

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01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 3: Tom Gallender standing by to join us right now.

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01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 2: Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, what's going.

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01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 7: On, Tony, Tony, Tony. What a beautiful Friday afternoon. The

1470
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 7: sun is shining.

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01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 27: F C Cincinnati won their home opener, and here head

1472
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 27: on the road for the first MLS road game of

1473
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 27: the year to the Twin Cities, which is beautiful land

1474
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 27: of a thousand legs. But it's going to be so

1475
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 27: cold tomorrow that I have a bone to pick with

1476
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 27: these Major League Soccer schedule make here sending us to

1477
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 27: Saint Paul, Minnesota in week two of the season.

1478
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna get this out of the way early,

1479
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 3: because from the last time we spoke, there has been

1480
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 3: eleven goals scored by FC Cincinnati. There has been zero surrendered.

1481
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 3: And yet I thought maybe when we got you on

1482
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 3: the phone today that your voice would be a little raspy,

1483
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,560
Speaker 3: maybe a little off because you've had to yell and

1484
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 3: and call so many goals. And then I wondered, well,

1485
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 3: let me just let me just follow with Tommy's social

1486
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 3: media feed and maybe we'll see the booth cam from

1487
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 3: the nine nil victory over the course of the weekend.

1488
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 3: Yet we didn't get to boothcamp after nine goals. Tommy,

1489
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 3: what happened?

1490
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 7: I know, Well, it's a fair question, and I appreciate you.

1491
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 27: You start, you know, keep me accountable, right, and we

1492
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 27: got to start the interview with accountability.

1493
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 7: And the reality is that life's busy.

1494
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 9: Man.

1495
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 27: I just called that game on Wednesday night and I'm

1496
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 27: on the road here. We're taking off any minute now

1497
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 27: for Twin Cities. So just because of the turnaround of

1498
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 27: the prep time for this Minnesota match, listen, I got

1499
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 27: to take care of the voice first, foremost, and listen,

1500
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 27: it sounds like I'm in mid season fourm right, I'm

1501
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 27: not going to beat after eleven goals. Since the last

1502
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 27: time we talked, I didn't I need to cancel. I

1503
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 27: didn't cancel on you guys in order to preserve my

1504
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 27: voice for calling more goals tomorrow because I'm thinking two

1505
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,600
Speaker 27: or three tomorrow. Yeah, there's gonna be more strained on

1506
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,759
Speaker 27: a voice, but I'm here. I got pro So listen,

1507
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 27: the boothcam just might not happen from that game because

1508
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 27: nine goals. Is canna take a long time. That's a

1509
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 27: lot of it, and yeah, it's it, just it didn't

1510
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 27: fit in the schedule. So I'll be accountable. It's on

1511
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 27: me and there's nobody else to blame but to be

1512
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 27: resumed soon, hope.

1513
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go back even further. Let's go back to

1514
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 3: the MLS opener. It took a little bit to get

1515
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,759
Speaker 3: the offense going, but dank scores in the eightieth Hagland

1516
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 3: Ads won in the ninetieth. They get a clean sheet

1517
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball. What did you

1518
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 3: make from the MLS opener at TQL Stadium last weekend.

1519
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 27: Yeah, I think the defense was as to be expected

1520
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 27: and everybody did their job room and made a couple

1521
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 27: of really big saves, which is great to see starting

1522
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 27: off his season. The back line was very good. Miles

1523
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 27: was fantastic. He was honored with Team of the Match

1524
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 27: day honors because of the way he played on the

1525
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 27: back line and deservedly so. I thought, you know, he

1526
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 27: was very much informed. Sam Aguide and Pavel Buka did

1527
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 27: exactly what they were asked to do and the team

1528
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 27: overcame the loss of Elevanda early and I think everybody

1529
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 27: thirteen minutes into the game was taking a really really

1530
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 27: heat breath, and Kevin and I were in the booth

1531
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 27: just because of the way he went down and immediately

1532
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 27: called for a medical staff. You know, you don't call

1533
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 27: for the medical staff with the new rules because if

1534
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 27: they come out, you don't leave. You have to sit

1535
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 27: out for two minutes. So your team's playing a man

1536
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 27: down for two minutes, and obviously you don't want to

1537
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:15,560
Speaker 27: make a substitution that early in the match. But he

1538
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 27: felt something and felt the need to come out, so

1539
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 27: they were able to overcome that. Out of Vilens way.

1540
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 27: They came in and did really well, and sure the

1541
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 27: creativity and some of the finishing and final third took

1542
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 27: a while to get there, but the key is that

1543
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 27: got there, and when he got there, they didn't have

1544
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 27: to score three goals because they hadn't conceded any So

1545
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 27: one was fine and two was the icing on the cake.

1546
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 27: And I thought the team, you know, performed well for

1547
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 27: that first home match in league play.

1548
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 3: With Evander and leaving the field. Where does that stand

1549
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 3: with where this team is at now?

1550
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 9: Uh?

1551
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 27: Yeah, you know they said that be of the scans

1552
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 27: on Monday, you know, nothing too serious there, so they'll

1553
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 27: continue to evaluate his status moving forward. And I don't

1554
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 27: think they're going to rush him back into a match

1555
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 27: because if he's close but not there, and you're playing

1556
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 27: someone that's going to be off the cold, like, are

1557
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 27: you gonna push him? I'm not the doctor, I don't

1558
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 27: pretend to be one, but I don't know that you

1559
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 27: would push him and take a risk of losing him

1560
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 27: for a month or two, you know, I don't think

1561
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 27: anybody would do that. Right, if it's December and it's

1562
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 27: the MLS Cup final, well a different story, right, he

1563
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 27: doesn't have to play an our game after that. But

1564
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 27: it's you know, February, late February and into March with

1565
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 27: a busy schedule coming up because you're adding a couple

1566
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 27: of games against T Grace.

1567
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 7: So I think that they're gonna be cautious with him.

1568
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 27: But the great news was that Monday when they did

1569
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 27: the scams, there was nothing you know, seriously damaged that

1570
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 27: was a cause of concern for a long term rehab.

1571
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 27: So I think he's hungry to get back out there

1572
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 27: because certainly disappointed only playing thirteen minutes in an MLS opener.

1573
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 7: But I imagine we'll see him back out on the

1574
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 7: pitch soon.

1575
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 3: You mentioned t Grace. That's because FC Cincinnati has advanced

1576
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 3: into the Conker CAFF Champions Cup, into the round of sixteen.

1577
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 3: They do so with a nine nil victory.

1578
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 2: Tommy.

1579
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 3: Eight different FC Cincinnati players score, and what's even more remarkable,

1580
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 3: they hold the opponent to zero shots on goal, regardless

1581
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 3: of what the and who the opponent. Is still a

1582
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 3: very impressive output for this team to advance in the

1583
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 3: conquer CAF Champions Cup.

1584
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 27: Yeah, it was, and listen, we talked about it last

1585
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 27: week a little bit. We'll talk about again today. It

1586
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 27: was professional, you know by CEA Cincinnati that they they

1587
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 27: put it away early. They left no doubt in the series.

1588
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 27: I mean O and M wasn't going to find a

1589
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 27: way to win five nil and and advance beyond the Sea, Cincinnati,

1590
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 27: but they still had to go out there and operate.

1591
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 27: And last year, you know, they did the same thing.

1592
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 27: They went to Matagua and one four nil and then

1593
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,839
Speaker 27: came home and drew one one. And you're still advanced

1594
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,719
Speaker 27: in that scenario. But you like to see the performance,

1595
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 27: and you'd like to see the young kids. I mean,

1596
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 27: how much fun was the watching all the academy kids. Yeah,

1597
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 27: you know, some some of who which are on two

1598
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 27: team contracts, some of which were appearing for the first

1599
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 27: team for the first time, go out there and score goals.

1600
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 27: Adam Marchada steps on the pitch and scores two minutes

1601
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 27: into his debut.

1602
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 7: That was awesome.

1603
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 27: So I think it was a lot of fun to

1604
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 27: see the contributions from the younger guys and to be

1605
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 27: able to rest guys and get the lineup set up

1606
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 27: this Minnesota game so you continue your momentum in league play.

1607
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 27: But I think the tough part is and Kevin talked

1608
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 27: about it is like playing on m is going to

1609
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 27: prepare you for T. Grace because te Grace is going

1610
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 27: to be a completely different beast. We know what they bring,

1611
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 27: we saw it a couple of weeks ago. But these

1612
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 27: other games are going to uh these MLS games, going

1613
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 27: up to Minnesota and playing a very good team and

1614
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 27: then coming home playing uh, you know Toronto side that's

1615
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 27: trying to improve their squad is going to get you

1616
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 27: more prepared for a game like you know this to

1617
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 27: the to they'll play against T Grace and the two

1618
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:29,759
Speaker 27: leg series.

1619
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 7: So I think that it's challenging for a lot of teams.

1620
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 7: We philt off your union.

1621
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 27: We're in a similar situation, you know, where they scored

1622
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 27: a bunch and then put it away in leg one.

1623
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 27: And you know, not many of these first round matches

1624
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 27: in COMPAF champions Cup are really competitive. We haven't seen

1625
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 27: it with us since any in the three years they've

1626
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 27: been in it. But then you turn around, you're gonna

1627
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 27: have a league a MX beast staring you in the face.

1628
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 27: That's gonna be a little bit of a different situation.

1629
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 27: So U but again, professional, I think is the key

1630
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 27: word here. Pat talked about it, Kevin and I talked

1631
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 27: about it, and that's the key because it sets you

1632
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 27: up for this next round as well as the MLS

1633
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 27: matches that's around those games.

1634
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 3: When you look at the CONCA CAFF before we get

1635
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 3: back to what's coming up this weekend, the round of sixteen,

1636
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 3: that is a date set. Is that still to be determined?

1637
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 3: We know the opponent obviously, how does that look going forward?

1638
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 27: Yeah, so the dates are set and we're kind of

1639
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 27: waiting on CONCAFF oft the times. But because Tea Grace

1640
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 27: is ranked higher than at Cincinnati, the first leg is

1641
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 27: in Cincinnati because you want to have a second leg

1642
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,600
Speaker 27: that gives you the advantage of knowing it exactly what

1643
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 27: you need to do at home. So the match here

1644
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 27: will be March twelfth, which is a Thursday, and then

1645
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 27: March nineteenth down in Monterey. It'll be third straight years

1646
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 27: since it's gone to Monterey. Four match. Of course, played

1647
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 27: Riatos two years ago, Ta Grace last year.

1648
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 7: Then we'll be back this year so they know exactly

1649
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:52,759
Speaker 7: what to expect from Havil situation.

1650
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 27: But yeah, it'll be March twelve and March nineteenth, and

1651
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 27: we're kind of waiting on Conkcaff to get those game

1652
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 27: times so we know exactly what they will be.

1653
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 7: But but that part is set.

1654
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 3: Looking forward to now the weekend back to MLS play

1655
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 3: a road trip as you mentioned to Minnesota. It's been

1656
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 3: a clean start. As we mentioned for FC Cincinnati used

1657
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 3: the term professional. What needs to be done? Where can

1658
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 3: they improve in their game? As you now make the

1659
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:18,959
Speaker 3: road trip to Minnesota.

1660
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 27: Yeah, I think it's a quick start, right, and everybody's

1661
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 27: gonna have to deal with the temperature. It's gonna be

1662
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 27: about twenty two degrees or so at game time. Low

1663
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 27: Tomorrow's four degrees in Saint Paul, So you better believe

1664
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 27: I have all the layers, you know, fact that in

1665
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 27: the suitcase and ready to go for that. So you know,

1666
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 27: both teams are going to have to deal with that.

1667
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,440
Speaker 27: I think the interesting part when you look at Minnesota

1668
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 27: is well James Rodriguez play. He practiced this week for

1669
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 27: the first time since being transferred in. Obviously, he's a

1670
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 27: world class player and someone that's coming on to their organization.

1671
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,600
Speaker 7: So I think will be involved. Will he be in

1672
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 7: there from the start?

1673
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1674
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 27: We'll have to, you know, see when the lineup cards

1675
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 27: come out tomorrow. But I think that, you know, Minnesota

1676
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 27: a team that made a lot of moves, especially about

1677
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 27: in a lot of guys with them unless experience, you know,

1678
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 27: within the league and bringing on to their side to

1679
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 27: try to improve their team. You know, they had a

1680
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 27: two two draw in week one, so they gave up

1681
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 27: a couple of goals. Drake Calendars in goal, he's a

1682
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 27: Moss veteran. He was with Miami, he kind of lost

1683
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 27: his spot down there, got traded to d C during

1684
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 27: the season last year and now he's with Minnesota United.

1685
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 27: So a very strong goalkeeper, but a goalkeeper that extra

1686
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 27: since I've been able to figure out historically they've they've

1687
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 27: averaged student a half goals per game. I think it's

1688
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 27: six starts against Drake calendar, So they've found success there.

1689
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 27: So you know, hopefully some of that continues, and I

1690
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 27: believe that, you know, the team is set up for success,

1691
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 27: but I think getting one early and kind of taken

1692
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 27: over would be really big.

1693
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 3: I know, obviously the back end with Roman Celentano has

1694
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,560
Speaker 3: a big thing to say about it, but early in

1695
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 3: the season, when you are sometimes maybe trying to get

1696
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 3: in the rhythm offensive, well, you can always rely on

1697
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 3: the defense, and it feels like f C Cincinnati does

1698
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 3: just that. We talked about what they did against Atlanta

1699
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 3: while the offense was coming along. What is it about

1700
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 3: them on the defensive side of the pitch that makes

1701
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 3: them a challenge for these opposing offenses in MLS.

1702
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 27: Well, it starts with the leadership of Miles Robinson. Where's

1703
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 27: the captain's arm band likely to be with the World Cup?

1704
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 27: The team, you know, the US men's national team this summer,

1705
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 27: so you know that that's pretty exciting, and.

1706
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:16,839
Speaker 7: Just his recoverage speed is unbelievable.

1707
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 27: There was a couple of times in that Atlanta nighted

1708
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 27: match with Kevin not let each other and we're like,

1709
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 27: man like the play that he just made, Like there's

1710
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 27: very few guys in the league who can make that play,

1711
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 27: who can have an attacking player who has a step

1712
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 27: or two on him and he just cleans it up

1713
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 27: and catches up to him and stuffs it out so

1714
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 27: that Roman doesn't have to make the play.

1715
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 7: And you'll always see Roman run over and give him

1716
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 7: a big high five because he feels that Miles save

1717
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 7: the day. So you know, credit to Miles. It starts there.

1718
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 7: But Nick Haglan was good, Teenager Daby was good. So

1719
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 7: you goes three at the back line.

1720
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 27: Then you have pavel And and Gide in front of

1721
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 27: them as two very formidable defensive midfielders, which that position

1722
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 27: has been very strong the last a couple of years

1723
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 27: for the team, and I think we'll continue to see that.

1724
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 7: So when you're the base of those five.

1725
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 27: Players and they're experience all playing together, I think it

1726
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:03,799
Speaker 27: sets the team up for success.

1727
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,639
Speaker 3: If there's been one thing we know about this organization

1728
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 3: is that they're always looking and figuring out ways to

1729
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 3: improve this club, whether it's off season, in season, and

1730
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 3: it's so early in the year, but are there parts

1731
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,839
Speaker 3: of this team that you could foresee maybe an upgrade

1732
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 3: or maybe depth pieces on a certain side of the

1733
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 3: ball would make sense knowing the grueling length of an

1734
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 3: MLS season.

1735
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 7: M h Well, I think in the midfield we've seen

1736
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 7: that there is great depth.

1737
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 27: I mean, beIN a Wilbell and Brian and Iunga who

1738
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 27: started the two Champions Cup games. You know, we're on

1739
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 27: the bench for the game against Atlanta and so they

1740
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 27: didn't even start. And you have you know, Pavel and

1741
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 27: Sammy Guidee who came in last year starting in those roles.

1742
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 27: So you have great you know depth there. I think

1743
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 27: there's very good depth that the center of acquisition, especially

1744
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 27: with Matt Maaska coming back right now. You know, the

1745
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 27: wing decks I think have been good. And then you

1746
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 27: have Alvis and Kyle Smith who can play. There has backups.

1747
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 27: I think maybe the one place that they bring somebody in,

1748
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 27: maybe if they bring somebody in, you know, before the

1749
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 27: summer window, would be at an attacking piece. Another striker

1750
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 27: Kevin Denkase obviously going to start whenever he is healthy.

1751
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 27: And then I think Tom Barlow and ayub Jabbari are

1752
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 27: in a battle for who is that second striker, and

1753
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 27: maybe there would be a little more comfort if there

1754
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 27: was one more striker in the mix, you know, battling

1755
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 27: for those minutes out of Allezuela can fill in at

1756
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 27: the ten and we saw that when when Evander is out,

1757
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 27: so you have a good young piece to step in,

1758
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 27: and he did really well in the land of game,

1759
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 27: So I'd say probably an attacking piece. If Chris Aubrey

1760
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 27: is out and working on somebody that that's probably what

1761
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 27: he's trying to do to improve the team here before

1762
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 27: they get to the summer window.

1763
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 7: And then the summer window kind of depend on who's available.

1764
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 27: And this summer's window is going to be really interesting

1765
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 27: because the World Cup, a lot of guys are going

1766
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 27: to be here in the United States. You know, how

1767
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 27: will that affect their perception of major soccer and their

1768
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 27: perception to want to play here in the United States

1769
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 27: if you're talking about international players, right and people who

1770
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 27: might come over.

1771
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 7: So I think that there's definitely wiggle room to add

1772
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 7: a body.

1773
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 27: Will we see somebody before the summer, I don't know,

1774
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 27: maybe fifty to fifty, but that I wouldn't be surprised

1775
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 27: if they do add somebody.

1776
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 7: I would expect it to be an attacking piece.

1777
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 3: We obviously know that Inner Miami is a team that

1778
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to watch out for this year. They

1779
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 3: lose their season opener three to zero to LAFC. How

1780
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 3: much does that put on a on a game like tomorrow,

1781
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 3: knowing that you're going to be in a battle and

1782
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 3: there's really good teams in your conference, and the opportunity

1783
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 3: to go and get three more points early on, and

1784
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 3: I know you it drags out into a big season,

1785
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 3: but it feels like every match is so important. You

1786
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 3: mentioned getting a goal early to kind of settle in,

1787
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 3: But how much do you just think, Okay, you got

1788
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 3: to capitalize on every opening that you have, and certainly

1789
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 3: there is one right now with an early Miami loss.

1790
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 2: No, you do right.

1791
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 7: You want them chasing your understandings.

1792
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 27: And you know, my son joking with me, but he's like, hey, yes,

1793
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 27: she's first in Miami's in fourteenth. Yeah s week too, buddy, yep,

1794
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 27: But yeah, I like it though, But but but there's

1795
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 27: something to that. You're three points up right, and and well,

1796
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 27: you know last year you're chasing Philadelphia for the supporter shit,

1797
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 27: and you just finished a cup points back. So maybe

1798
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,799
Speaker 27: one of those early games where we're younick three points

1799
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 27: on somebody and they don't win, then all of a sudden,

1800
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 27: your that could be the difference come week thirty four.

1801
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 9: Right.

1802
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,680
Speaker 27: So now, I think all of these games are are

1803
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 27: incredibly important, and if you can draw a little bit

1804
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 27: of gap there between the favorites, then absolutely that's a

1805
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 27: massive positive.

1806
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 3: I do have to ask before we let you go, Tommy.

1807
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 3: It's spring training is here, the NFL Draft is upcoming.

1808
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 3: I haven't got your thoughts. You guys got a new

1809
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 3: coach in Cleveland with the Browns. What's your thoughts on

1810
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 3: the new coach and what do you think of the

1811
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 3: Guardians going into this year?

1812
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 27: You know, I think you know, Guardians didn't really make

1813
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:42,600
Speaker 27: many splashy, big moves, but they have a you know,

1814
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 27: a very solid cores, I would say, and obviously a

1815
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 27: superstar and Jose Ramirez, who has you know, reiterated his

1816
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 27: desire to be in Cleveland long term. So that's exciting.

1817
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 27: But you know, a lot of things have to go right.

1818
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 27: I think for the Guardians to be a true contender,

1819
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 27: could they win their division. Sure, but it'll be very

1820
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 27: interesting to kind of see how it plays out. Obviously

1821
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 27: the Tigers are very good. I don't know, we'll see,

1822
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 27: but I love that Jose you know, it's committee to

1823
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 27: Cleveland and wants to be there on the Browns.

1824
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 7: How much time do we have?

1825
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

1826
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 7: I mean we couldn't got this out a couple of

1827
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 7: weeks ago.

1828
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 2: I just had to do it like I had to

1829
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 2: do it. No, we'll see, We'll see, you know.

1830
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 27: Obviously, I think some cards were probably misplayed, and and

1831
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 27: there was hope that that Jim Schwartz was gonna be

1832
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 27: involved in some way. There's the head coach of defensive coordinator.

1833
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 27: Now you don't have him as either. So I think

1834
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 27: that that's a big point of frustration. And I mean

1835
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 27: we've had the same conversation. They have so much to

1836
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 27: figure out. This is the same conversation we've had every

1837
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 27: February for the last couple of years. Right, they have

1838
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 27: they have a future you know, hall of famer, uh

1839
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 27: you know, surefire hall of famer.

1840
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 7: Best defensive player in the league in Miles Garrett.

1841
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 27: And and he might be a little annoyed now that

1842
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 27: his defensive coordinator that he loved is gone. They're gonna

1843
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 27: figure out things on the offensive side of the ball

1844
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 27: because they got enough offensively to at least be competitive.

1845
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 2: So are you interested in Anthony Richardson?

1846
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:04,640
Speaker 17: Then?

1847
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:09,759
Speaker 2: Oh no, not particular Okay, Justice.

1848
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 3: And I do have to ask before we let you go,

1849
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 3: you get the opportunity. There's rumblings that you get the

1850
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 3: opportunity with Austin on the board tomorrow for the game.

1851
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 2: That's right? What what what does that mean to you?

1852
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 2: I think it's the first time Austin.

1853
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 7: Is that right?

1854
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 2: No, it's we've we've worked probably five or six games

1855
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 2: together before.

1856
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 27: It was memorable the kind Well, no, but the point

1857
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 27: is that we talked so often that that it all

1858
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 27: it all, you know, and just becomes normal piece of

1859
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 27: life that I'm communicating with you musble times.

1860
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 2: What does that bring to your broadcast though? Is that?

1861
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 2: Is that a little uptick for you knowing that Austin's

1862
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 2: on the other end?

1863
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 9: Oh?

1864
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 27: I mean, I'm sure Rating is gonna be off the

1865
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 27: charge on the project tomorrow, so that's him.

1866
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 2: I really really look forward to the end of the

1867
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 2: broadcast when I get that thank you.

1868
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:51,560
Speaker 27: For You're going to be in there early, right, you

1869
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 27: know the board. My engineers in the booth get a

1870
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 27: little bit, get a little bit asc when when you're

1871
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 27: sauntering in five minutes before.

1872
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'll be there. When I'll be there. He's

1873
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 2: already setting things up. He's already getting things set up.

1874
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 27: I'm going to be in there about one thirty before

1875
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 27: the fourth four o'clock check in with you. Should you

1876
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 27: get text from the booth, I love it. It's a

1877
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 27: it's a four to thirty start. FC Cincinnati on the

1878
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 27: road at Minnesota United. That is the voice of FC Cincinnati,

1879
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 27: Tom Gallader. Tommy, thanks so much for your time. Get

1880
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 27: three more and we'll talk again next week.

1881
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 7: Absolutely pleasure, my guys, talk to you seon there.

1882
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 2: He is professional Tom Gallader, FC Cincinnati. Twenty more to go.

1883
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 3: I might Bob man Jean from Novacare in the University

1884
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 3: of Cincinnati next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1885
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 15: Crapload.

1886
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 3: That's welcome back. It is since he three sixty rolled

1887
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 3: along Friday afternoon. ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Uh,

1888
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 3: let's do this because we just talked to our guy,

1889
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 3: Tom Gallader from FC Cincinnati. Let's parlay this to our

1890
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 3: guy Bob man Jean from the University of Cincinnati and

1891
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 3: Novacare who joins us each and every week, stands by

1892
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 3: right now, Bob, what's going on?

1893
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:02,759
Speaker 9: Tony?

1894
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 17: Just getting ready to play another game? You're know, college

1895
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,719
Speaker 17: basketball is you better have a short term memory because

1896
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 17: you're going to play two to three days later. How

1897
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 17: is the ready to go to Oklhoma State is here?

1898
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 3: How is the mental of the team. Obviously a nice

1899
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 3: little winning streak, a big win at Kansas, which had

1900
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 3: to be awesome for everyone involved, the locker room scenes

1901
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 3: after the game, we were amazing to watch, and then

1902
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 3: a tough Texas Tech team, but still three games left

1903
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 3: in the regular season schedule. Uh, what's the mindset? Does

1904
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 3: the team feel ready to go? Feel upbeat right now?

1905
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 24: Yeah?

1906
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,640
Speaker 17: I think the team, you know, understands the difficulty of

1907
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 17: this conference and to travel with it and and everything

1908
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 17: that goes with it. And you're you're not gonna win.

1909
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 17: I mean, look at all the teams and how many

1910
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 17: losses you've had within the conference from Houston Arizona, and

1911
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 17: it's just hard and the travels hard. So I mean, Nick, kids,

1912
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 17: I think are very upbeat. At this point, we have

1913
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 17: three games to go in the Sea and then hopefully

1914
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 17: make a little run in the tournament. And you know,

1915
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 17: there's still that possibility of the tournament. So I'm very,

1916
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 17: very optimistic that the kids are there to be able

1917
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 17: to pull it off.

1918
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:13,600
Speaker 3: I do have to say as well, we just had

1919
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 3: a chance to talk to our good friend Tom Gallader

1920
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 3: from FC Cincinnati. But before Tommy G was handling business

1921
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 3: with the Orange and Blue, Tommy G was the sideline

1922
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 3: reporter when I was playing football, you see. And Tommy

1923
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 3: wanted me to pass along his hello and also to

1924
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 3: just bring up and remind you all those times that

1925
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 3: he had to hound you on the sidelines to get

1926
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 3: injury reports on me during games.

1927
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 17: Well, I know, I miss Tommy. Tommy's great kid. Well

1928
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 17: he was a kid.

1929
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 15: He's a great guy.

1930
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 17: Does a phenomenal job with FC Cincinnati, and it's a

1931
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 17: great team program right now with everything they've put together.

1932
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 17: Tom was easy to work with, never really bother and

1933
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 17: I bagine me too much.

1934
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:56,360
Speaker 9: You know.

1935
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 17: And again he wasn't like you, you know, you always

1936
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 17: got on my back about or report.

1937
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 15: Just so easy to get along with.

1938
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 2: Oh, it's probably like oh, Pike's hurt again, I'll just

1939
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 2: report on that.

1940
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, and there you go.

1941
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 2: It was easy. It was easy.

1942
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 3: But I thought, because Tommy had mentioned it today that

1943
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 3: they are getting ready to play in Minnesota tomorrow and

1944
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 3: the temperatures are expected to be as low as four

1945
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 3: degrees and it's obviously an outdoor event, it's an outdoor venue.

1946
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 3: And it got me thinking, you know, early in a season,

1947
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 3: it's one thing to deal with weather. As the season

1948
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:31,759
Speaker 3: goes on, for instance, football is kind of in reverse.

1949
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 17: Right.

1950
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 3: You start in it's hot, it's summer, and by the

1951
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 3: time you finish, you're playing in some cold temperature games.

1952
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 3: Soccer it's a little bit different. They're playing these cold

1953
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 3: temperature games. Now, how difficult is that early in a

1954
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 3: season when you think of all the types of injuries

1955
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:47,600
Speaker 3: that could come up to go on the road and

1956
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 3: play in a cold weather environment.

1957
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 17: Well, I mean, you got a lot of things in

1958
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 17: considering cold weather environments. And again, I think in today's

1959
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 17: word technology, I'll also you know, you have a lot

1960
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 17: of advances that allow you to make sure that you

1961
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 17: stay safe in the cold weather. You know, everything from

1962
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 17: heaters on the sideline to different heating pieces you can

1963
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 17: put in your shoes or your hands or whatever. So

1964
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 17: I think that it's still very dangerous to participate in

1965
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 17: for degrees. That exposure time does not take long to

1966
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 17: start to get skinned changes and vastnor changes, and that

1967
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 17: makes your injury potentially even higher risk. Plus, imagine that

1968
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 17: cold temperature on the surface of the field, where you

1969
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 17: know the surface can get much too cold and all

1970
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 17: of a sudden it's more slippery. So now you've got

1971
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 17: a better chance at a hamstring poll or an adductor pollar,

1972
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 17: even potentially a knee injury unfortunately. Plus it's a hard

1973
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 17: surface to to you know, fall on. So you know,

1974
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 17: again I hated cold weather games. I woul much rather

1975
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 17: to be ninety degrees and heat then get out there.

1976
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:05,560
Speaker 17: And you know, you remember the game. I think you

1977
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 17: were with us when we played Marshall down in Fort

1978
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 17: Worth at the Texas Bowl, where it went from seventy

1979
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 17: two degrees the first two days of practice, but with

1980
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 17: the windshow, by the time we played the game, it

1981
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 17: was seventeen degrees and we had to completely rethink everything

1982
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 17: from warm up to what we had on the sideline.

1983
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 17: But again, there's a lot of products out there. I mean,

1984
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 17: you take like people used to tease me about always

1985
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 17: wearing a sweater vest even when it was like twenty

1986
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 17: degrees because there's a product called thermaicares, and you remember

1987
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 17: you wore those as well, and you can put them

1988
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 17: on your back, you can put them, you know, around

1989
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 17: your neck, around your upper body so you could keep

1990
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,599
Speaker 17: warm and make it look like you were a tough guy,

1991
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 17: you know when you're in long sleeve in a sweater vest.

1992
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,679
Speaker 17: So there are things the kids can do. The training

1993
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 17: staff is very good training staff. I'm sure they've had

1994
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 17: their the whole thought process through. At the collegiate level

1995
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 17: for Olympic sports, now baseball soccer, if it gets to

1996
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 17: a certain temperature right in that thirty degree range, we

1997
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:14,799
Speaker 17: actually will not play because of a risk of injury,

1998
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 17: especially to pitchers catchers. So you know in the at

1999
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 17: the NCAA level, in different conferences that pass different weather

2000
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 17: related cold weather related policies can order to protect the

2001
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 17: kins kinds better so that you have less risk of injury,

2002
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 17: and you can even take more timeouts if you want.

2003
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Speaker 7: It's based on the.

2004
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Speaker 17: Referee or the officials call, so that you know the

2005
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 17: kids have an opportunity to warm up before they continue

2006
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 17: the game. Once you get moving and you're running, you know,

2007
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 17: you feel pretty good, but you don't even notice the

2008
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:54,720
Speaker 17: decrease in the temperature in your body. So they have

2009
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 17: to be really careful, especially at four degrees, you know.

2010
01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 17: But again they they have things out there now that

2011
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:02,560
Speaker 17: can help them through it.

2012
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 2: I look too.

2013
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 3: I know when you when you start thinking of extreme

2014
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 3: cold temperatures, you you run the risk of the blood

2015
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,680
Speaker 3: flow being reduced a little bit. So what types of

2016
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 3: injuries are you looking out for from from players in

2017
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:16,719
Speaker 3: those cold weather environments.

2018
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 17: Oh, I'm really worried about must of their injuries. You know,

2019
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 17: you've got to be very very careful of muscle injury.

2020
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 17: Your ham frings, your quad get cold, your abductors.

2021
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 2: Uh. You overreach for a ball and.

2022
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 17: It's basically an e centric move, which is like a

2023
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 17: deceleration stop or you know hod stretch reads for a ball.

2024
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 17: Uh that you know, you can pull something pretty easy

2025
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 17: whenever it's in colder temperatures. So you know, the bottom liners,

2026
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 17: You just want to make sure you're you're keeping form.

2027
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,879
Speaker 17: I mean, I'm not sure the goals are the policy

2028
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 17: for MSL, but whether you can wear certain kind of

2029
01:37:56,520 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 17: gear while you're playing, for example, you know, tights, Tights

2030
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 17: will help you keep it in, Tights will help keep warm.

2031
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:07,600
Speaker 17: So you know, again in our league, you watch the

2032
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 17: kids at the collegiate level, they're all in tights except

2033
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 17: for the linemen, and they all want to be you know,

2034
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:16,839
Speaker 17: tough asses, and they all just wear short sleeve shirts,

2035
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 17: whereas you know, your skilled kids are usually in you know,

2036
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 17: long sleeve shirts and pants. So plus, you know when

2037
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 17: your offense defense, you know when you're off you're on

2038
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 17: those heated benches, whereas in soccer you're out there playing

2039
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 17: for forty five minutes at a time.

2040
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:36,719
Speaker 3: So are you like, so is it as a training

2041
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:40,679
Speaker 3: staff and you're playing in a in a cold weather environment,

2042
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 3: are you talking to coaches? Are you talking with other

2043
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 3: staff members about you know, is it is it smart

2044
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 3: this early into a season to hold someone back or

2045
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 3: something along those lines.

2046
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 17: Well, yeah, I do you have a kid who's already

2047
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,599
Speaker 17: got issues going into the game. You want to make

2048
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 17: sure that you're keeping an eye on that kid while

2049
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 17: they're playing so that they can they you know, you

2050
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 17: minimize their risk. So you don't want to put them

2051
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 17: You don't want to subject them to something that you

2052
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 17: know is going to end up resulting in uh, you know,

2053
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 17: in them becoming worse and then all of a sudden

2054
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 17: you lose them for three more games.

2055
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially early in the season as well.

2056
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 17: Right, Oh, absolutely early in the season, you know, I mean,

2057
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 17: you want to make sure that they you know, they

2058
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 17: stay safe, stay warm. If they're starting to feel any

2059
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 17: tightness at all, you know, you may have to pull

2060
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 17: them from a game, you know, and I've you know,

2061
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 17: we've done that. We've absolutely done that so that you know,

2062
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 17: the kids, uh, the kids, you're trying to not get

2063
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,919
Speaker 17: worse at this time of year, You're trying to minimize

2064
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 17: your injury and really mitigate that.

2065
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 13: Right.

2066
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 3: So, so, if if those conversations are are obviously being had,

2067
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 3: is that something you're talking about with the coach as

2068
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 3: the game comes up? Are you kind of are are

2069
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 3: there meetings behind the scenes? Is kind of what I'm

2070
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 3: asking about? Okay, the availability of this player, maybe the

2071
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 3: risk you're constantly talking to a coach about that, I'm sure.

2072
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 2: Yes.

2073
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 17: As the game is ongoing, you know, you're assessing the kid,

2074
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:16,600
Speaker 17: you're assessing the coaches so that they understand, you know,

2075
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 17: what the what the athletes experiencing, because, like I said,

2076
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 17: you don't want to lose a kid when they're out

2077
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 17: there playing at four degrees and then all of a

2078
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 17: sudden they tear their hamstring and they're out for three weeks,

2079
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 17: and that affects you the outcome of your season. So

2080
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 17: those conversations are ongoing throughout the course of the game,

2081
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 17: you know, especially when you get to the halftime of

2082
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 17: the game where you have the opportunity to really assess

2083
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 17: everybody and then have a halftime conversation how.

2084
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 3: Much about it. Let's say, let let's switch it from soccer.

2085
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 3: Let's say this basketball season right now, and let's say

2086
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 3: you know a player is banged up and there's three

2087
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 3: regular season games left. Are you having the same in

2088
01:40:57,320 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 3: game conversations as you would with a a head coach

2089
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 3: of Hey, here's the risk, here's where he's at, and

2090
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 3: can it get any worse or can it not get

2091
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 3: any worse? There's just constant communication between all sides.

2092
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:12,719
Speaker 17: Yes, we work on what Wes is really super easy.

2093
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 17: Wes sits and wants to know, you know, where's this athlete,

2094
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 17: where's that athlete? You know, how much practice load do

2095
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 17: you think this athlete can handle. And there are guys

2096
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,640
Speaker 17: who we do limit. I mean, if they're going to

2097
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 17: play thirty eight minutes in the game, you're not going

2098
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:31,639
Speaker 17: to come back two days later and say, okay, let's

2099
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 17: go for two hours with that athlete. You know, Wes

2100
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 17: was really comfortable with being able to alter things based

2101
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 17: on where we are with each individual athletes. And sometimes

2102
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 17: it's individualized. It's not like the whole team. Because you

2103
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 17: do have guys who are playing thirty plus minutes a game,

2104
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:51,599
Speaker 17: you've got to be a little bit careful of making

2105
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 17: sure they're ready for the next game.

2106
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 3: That is Bob man Jean with the University of Cincinnati

2107
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:58,599
Speaker 3: and Nova Care. He joins us each and every week. Bob,

2108
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 3: thanks so much, good luck this weekend, and we'll talk

2109
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 3: again next week.

2110
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Speaker 17: Thanks Tony, you guys have a good weekend. And Austin

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Speaker 17: I keep hoping the red ze good for you.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 3: We'll roll on on the Friday afternoon when we return

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01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 3: since E three p sixty on the Home of the

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01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,679
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2125
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Speaker 4: He brings the Heat, Moegar Today at three pm on

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. Moulagger in in just a few moments

2129
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 3: to wind down a Friday edition of Since He three

2130
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 3: to sixty. Anything we haven't gotten to yet today I know.

2131
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:21,080
Speaker 3: College basketball locally rams back up tonight. Miami's quest for

2132
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 3: their undefeated regular season continues this evening. They are on

2133
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 3: the road their second dip in the state of Michigan.

2134
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 3: They take on Western Michigan tonight. Right now, Miami an

2135
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 3: eleven and a half point favorite over the Broncos, who

2136
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 3: are four and eleven in the MAC this year. If

2137
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,599
Speaker 3: Miami takes care of business tonight, as the twenty first

2138
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:45,680
Speaker 3: ranked team in the country. They obviously still have the

2139
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 3: Ou game looming as the final regular season game this

2140
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 3: year for the Miami RedHawks. I believe between those two

2141
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 3: they do have a home game against Toledo next week

2142
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:00,680
Speaker 3: as well. Also tonight Number three Michigan at number ten Illinois,

2143
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 3: another top ten matchup out of the Big Ten. I

2144
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of people talk about the Big

2145
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 3: Twelve this year in college basketball. Not many people talking

2146
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 3: about the Big Ten. Who is I think equally as

2147
01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 3: impressive in what they are doing. Saturday some top twenty

2148
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 3: five matchups. Number eleven Virginia is at number one Duke locally,

2149
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 3: twenty fourth ranked Clemson travels to Clemson. Number twenty five Vanderbilt. Try,

2150
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,679
Speaker 3: did you just say what I say, Louisville?

2151
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:33,280
Speaker 2: You said Number twenty four ranked Clemson travels to Clemson.

2152
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 2: I was looking ahead Number twenty four squad game. Yeah,

2153
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 2: they got an answer, sculled Victor Lockin's coming back for Clemson.

2154
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 2: Louisville is at Clemson, and then Kentucky host Vanderbilt. Number

2155
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 2: another weekend in the Big twelve, Kansas at Arizona, Texas

2156
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 2: Tech at Iowa State. Those games should be fantastic as well.

2157
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bearcats obviously back in action tomorrow against Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 2: That is a two o'clock tip at fifth Third Arena.

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Speaker 2: Have we forgot anybody? Red's play today? Coming up at

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Speaker 2: three oh five, Reds line them up be going up

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Speaker 2: against old friend Brent Souter Brent Suitor starting for the

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01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 2: Angels today. It'll be Noel V. Marte leading off and

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01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 2: playing right field. JJ Blode will bat second and play

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01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 2: left South. Stewart is the third batter and second basement

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Speaker 2: au Haineo Suarez bats clean up. He's the DH. Jose

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01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 2: Travino bats fifth, he's catching. The sixth batter is first

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01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 2: baseman Nathaniel Low batting seventh to third base key Brian Hayes.

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Speaker 2: The eighth batter is centerfielder Reese Hines. The ninth batter

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01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 2: is shortstop Garrett Hampson huh with starting pitcher Rhett Lauder

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Speaker 2: on the mound. Once more. For Cincinnati, it's Marte, Blade,

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01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 2: Stuart Suarez, Travigno, Low, Hayes, Hines, Hampson with Louder on

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01:45:54,520 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 2: the mound. In goodyear. Believe the Reds have still played

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01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 2: just one road spring training game. Yeah, give the schedule

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Speaker 2: makers some credit. There boys a traveling on in Arizona

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01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,719
Speaker 2: highways too much must be nice.

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Speaker 3: We also, I would be remiss not to mention Austin

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Speaker 3: a big one in the Horizon League on Saturday night

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Speaker 3: at Trust Arena Wright State.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. First, nku Now, I was gonna go, but I

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01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 2: have to work now.

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01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:27,760
Speaker 3: Oh's all right, Well we'll see what Rick Broin and

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01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 3: Darren Horne have to say about that potentially next week.

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01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. I get it. No, I get it. I deserve

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Speaker 2: it whatever it is. Yeah, out of the.

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Speaker 3: Big Ten real quick. The Buckeyes bubble life right now.

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01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 3: For Ohio State, they are firmly on the bubble right.

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01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 3: I don't know that there's much, but yes, they welcome

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01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 3: the Purdue boiler Makers, who just came off a loss

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01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 3: as well FC Cincinnati. It's a four to thirty first

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01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 3: kick tomorrow in Minnesota. I think that's that's hit from

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01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:00,919
Speaker 3: the local sports this weekend. If I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 2: There's one other thing too, Uh, Garrett Nussmeyer, did you

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01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 2: see this?

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01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 13: Now?

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01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 3: Man's funny you bring that name up because I thought

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Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year he was going to

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Speaker 3: be the top quarterback prospect.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know how they're asking him questions? Oh yeah,

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01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 2: you know he's at the combine. Today he listed his

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Speaker 2: top five quarterbacks Patrick Mahomes, Matthew Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, Baker Mayfield,

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01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 2: Jared Goff. Huh, Garrett Musmyer is coming from LSU. By

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01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 2: the way, what that is astounding to me? Somebody said

2204
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 2: the list one more time. It was Patrick Mahomes, Matthew Stafford.

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01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody has a problem with those two.

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01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:48,600
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff. Come on, huh, what

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01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:53,680
Speaker 2: are we doing? No Josh, no Lamar, no, Joe no

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01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 2: Lsu Joel. I just I don't that's even Herbert I

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Speaker 2: think had a I'm not on Nusmyer. That's what somebody said,

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01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 2: and taking him off their board completely after that end,

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01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 2: which is crazy enough.

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01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 3: There will be a team that probably does that because

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01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 3: of that answers.

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Speaker 2: There is also a great answer from Diego Pavia today

2215
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:16,479
Speaker 2: about the frontal maturity. Yeah, and he said that his

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01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 2: coach used to tell him that his frontal lobe doesn't

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01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:22,599
Speaker 2: develop until he's twenty five, and he just turned twenty four,

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01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 2: so he's got about three hundred and sixty five days.

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01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 2: Just incredible, dude, is not not sharp?

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01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 3: Incredible stuff from Diego Pavia, who was ranked as one

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Speaker 3: of the top what fifty quarterbacks on that list we

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01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,600
Speaker 3: read last week. He's a quarterback. Yep, he was on

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01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 3: that list that others were on. Mulwagar probably on a

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Speaker 3: lot of list. We'll talk to Mo when we get

2225
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 3: back for Quick Hits on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 1: Now, it's time for a quick hits on Tony Pikes

2227
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 1: since he.

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01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 3: Was looking for Moe winding down the Friday edition of

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01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 3: Since he three sixty getting me set for the Mulwagar Show.

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01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 2: What happens next? Before that, mo joins us for quick kits? Mo,

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01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 2: what's going on? How are you guys? I'm I'm good.

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Speaker 2: How are you? It's great to hear from you, Mo.

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01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 2: There's some hesitation. There was there's little hesitation. What is

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01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 2: I'm sorry?

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01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:19,600
Speaker 18: I'm just you kind of interrupted me because I'm just

2236
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 18: staring at the screen in front of me right now,

2237
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 18: and i have maybe not a tear in my eye,

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01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:29,559
Speaker 18: but they've welled up because I'm looking at Joe Lenardi's

2239
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 18: bracketology and there it is under next four out, Vcue,

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Speaker 18: Virginia Tech, Seaton Hall, Yeah, and finally Cincinnati team number

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Speaker 18: seventy six. It's this is one of the most beautiful

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01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 18: things I've ever seen in my life. This is the

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01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 18: most normal at the end of February. This is this

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01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 18: is how next four can they expand the tournament field

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01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 18: this year? All we have to do is leap frog

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01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 18: seat in the hall, Virginia Tech, vcu USC, Ohio State,

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01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:11,320
Speaker 18: New Mexico, California, and Indiana and there we will be

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01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 18: listed among last four in.

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Speaker 2: Sign me up for I see Ohio State and Dayton.

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Speaker 2: That'd be fun. That'd be fun. But you can tell

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Speaker 2: you how I feel. That'd be interesting.

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01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:30,599
Speaker 18: Goodness there It is the first step. Tone we said

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01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:34,639
Speaker 18: this the first step. Okay, you can't get in until

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01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 18: you're next four out. Then you have to go to

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Speaker 18: first four out, then you have to go to last

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01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 18: four in. Probably not going to get to last four buys.

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01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 2: But this is this is a hurdle.

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01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:46,519
Speaker 18: This is this is like you ever gone on a

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01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:51,400
Speaker 18: long drive with your family, right and you kind of

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01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:54,760
Speaker 18: feel like that first stop is a milestone, that first

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01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 18: time that you're like you get out and you eat,

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01:50:57,280 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 18: You're kind of like, you know what I can we

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01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:00,679
Speaker 18: can cross that let off the list.

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Speaker 2: We're not there yet.

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Speaker 18: We have a long, long way to go. We have

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01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 18: a long, treacherous road in front of us. But but

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01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:11,719
Speaker 18: we've hit a mile post. So we've hit a mile post, Tony,

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01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:13,759
Speaker 18: are we gonna start looking at these other teams ahead

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01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:15,679
Speaker 18: of us and who they play and win these games?

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01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:18,559
Speaker 18: Ohio State plays Purdue. That's a tough one.

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Speaker 2: You know. Jack Diebler has produced number I have I have.

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Speaker 2: I did it today.

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Speaker 18: I printed out a Big Twelve tournament bracket to see

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01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 18: like where the Bearcats can end up in the Big

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01:51:29,200 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 18: twelve and who some of the possible first round opponents are. Yeah,

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01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 18: we've got to start doing this and looking at the

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01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 18: weekend ahead and some of these Bubble Watch games. It's on,

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01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 18: It is on, I said to you as soon as

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01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 18: I saw it. Now, Liny is not the most he

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01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 18: is not. Admittedly he is not the most accurate bracketologists.

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01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 18: And our show has an official bracketologist, Hunter Sansom, who's

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01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 18: becoming a little bit too big for us. But I

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01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:55,759
Speaker 18: said to you the first time that I saw Cincinnati

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01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 18: listed as next four out game on so let's do it. Yeah,

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01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 18: those were exact word you had earlier in the week.

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01:52:02,439 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 18: Where do the be casaniva, what's the next milestone? Then

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01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:07,680
Speaker 18: going into the BYU game on Tuesday, where do they

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01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:10,000
Speaker 18: need to be? They need to be on the first

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01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 18: four out?

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01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so, I don't know. I don't know how

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01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 2: often he updates this.

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01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:18,400
Speaker 18: By the way, I'll also tell you this, I'm gonna

2293
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 18: I'm gonna pull this up as we speak.

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01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 2: If you go to the Athletics.

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01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 18: Bubble watch bubble Now, not every team gets a blurb,

2296
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 18: but if you look under Big twelve, who's in the

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01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 18: mix Cincinnati with a blurb he's written about him game on,

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01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 18: we'me on. We are absolutely back.

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Speaker 3: Other than diving into the world of bracketology today, what

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01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 3: else do you got coming up on the show?

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01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:53,560
Speaker 18: The Bengals apparently treat players families very very poorly, and

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Speaker 18: I've I've heard about this. If you if you do

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01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 18: a deep dive into the NFLPA report card, you find

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01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 18: out that like when players are playing in games, the

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01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:04,880
Speaker 18: Bengals actually make their significant others like sling beer and

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01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 18: popcorn and cotton candy and stuff.

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01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, if you knew this.

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01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 18: They're actually putting the kids to work, violating all sorts

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01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 18: of child labor laws.

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01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 3: I thought I saw Jake Brownie's girlfriend riding around with

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01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 3: Sag at a tailgate slinging stuff before.

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01:53:20,360 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 18: Well, that might have to be the family's primary method

2313
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:25,639
Speaker 18: of income if you watched Jake Browning play last year.

2314
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 2: But I do want to talk about this, and so

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01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:27,920
Speaker 2: we will.

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01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 18: Kelsey Conway is going to join us after a week

2317
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 18: at the Combine, coming up at three point twenty. We're

2318
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 18: looking forward to that. Kindred d Saint Aubin from Apple TV.

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01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 18: She's calling the match tomorrow FC Cincinnati against Minnesota. It's

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01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 18: a homecoming for her because she's from Minneapolis. And somebody,

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01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:46,679
Speaker 18: you know we talk all the time in college basketball

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01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,360
Speaker 18: the bracket Matrix, which is like a one stop shop

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01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 18: for all the brackets.

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Speaker 2: I have on with us today.

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Speaker 18: Benjamin Robinson, who is He is a He's a Cincinnati guy,

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01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 18: and he has a website called Grinding the Mocks. This

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01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:05,679
Speaker 18: guy looks at all the mock drafts, so you don't

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01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 18: have to oh, like, he aggregates all the mock drafts

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01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 18: that are out there. And then like, and I became

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01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 18: aware of him last year because he laughed at all

2331
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 18: the Shador Sanders people because he compiled all the mock

2332
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:19,120
Speaker 18: drafts and had them all you know where Shador Sanders

2333
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 18: was gonna go. And then short Door Sanders got drafted

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01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 18: on Sunday, I think, last year. And so we're gonna

2335
01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 18: get Benjamin Robinson on to sort of get what the

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01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:29,200
Speaker 18: consensus among all the mock drafters is about what the

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01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:30,920
Speaker 18: Bengals are going to do. At ten, we'll talk about

2338
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 18: Caleb Downs, Ruben Banting in short Arms, and so much more.

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01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 2: He is going to join us at four thirty three.

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01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 18: I'm super stoked to get a chance to talk with him,

2341
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 18: and I might do a point by point rundown of

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01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 18: something I put on social media last night. Oh wow,

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01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 18: some website, some some dude on Twitter's like, what would

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01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:47,240
Speaker 18: you do if you were a baseball commissioner? This is

2345
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 18: one of the questions every single one of us has

2346
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 18: wrestled with this. I put a lot of thought into it.

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01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:54,120
Speaker 18: I could tell I had like fourteen different things I

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01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 18: was bored at, like fourteen different things I would I

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01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 18: would do, and I thought I would go through some

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01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 18: of them and and maybe ask people, you know, if

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01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 18: they would add to the list or if they want

2352
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 18: to subtract. I think the most controversial one is I

2353
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 18: said I would I would eliminate base coaches.

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01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 2: I like, there's no need to the picture.

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01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 18: The pitcher doesn't have somebody standing next to him telling

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01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 18: them what pitch to throw right. The outfielder doesn't have

2357
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 18: a coach telling him, hey, throw the ball to third base.

2358
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 18: Yet we give base runners two coaches. This has never

2359
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 18: made sense to me since I was a little Can

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01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:27,879
Speaker 18: they ignore them half the time? Anyways?

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01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 2: Right, like we we could do without.

2362
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 18: Like baseball teams are always looking to save money, how

2363
01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 18: about you don't have a guy who's there solely to

2364
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 18: collect shin guards.

2365
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 2: Do you need him?

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01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 8: Do you really?

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01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:41,840
Speaker 18: Do you really need somebody going okay, two outs run

2368
01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 18: on anything? Like, really, you're at the major league level,

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Speaker 18: you need a guy in a helmet looking at you, going, hey, out, okay.

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Speaker 18: You know what, I could be a first base coach,

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Speaker 18: like I think of when I played every for every coach.

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01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 18: I mean sometimes they would make like one of the

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Speaker 18: players in little league be the first base coach. That's

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01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 18: how important that job is, and let another twelve year

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01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:04,240
Speaker 18: old do it. The first base coach never provided anything

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Speaker 18: like all right, two outs, run on anything. One out, okay,

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Speaker 18: if it's on the ground, you gotta go like, thanks, man,

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Speaker 18: see you mean if the ball's sit on the ground,

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Speaker 18: I gotta run from here.

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Speaker 9: Wow?

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01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 2: Gee, thanks.

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01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 18: I never watch a baseball game before appreciate it. That's

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01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 18: what the first base coach does. Hey, watch for his move,

2384
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 18: don't get picked off. All right, thanks, pal, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Do we really need that? No, so we're gonna eliminate

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01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 2: that position.

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01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 18: Third base coach has a little bit more of an

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01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 18: important function, but at the major league level, a runner

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01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 18: should know whether or not he's gonna go home or

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01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 18: stop at third base without any assistance. The guy throwing

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01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 18: the ball doesn't have anybody telling him, Hey, you're not

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01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 18: gonna get the guy. You're not gonna get the lead runner,

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01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 18: so throat and get the trail runner. So why do

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01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:43,320
Speaker 18: we have bas coaches? These are the things I think

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01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 18: about when I have a lot of time on my hands,

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01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:45,440
Speaker 18: which I did last night.

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Speaker 3: What do you think Aaron Glenn was thinking about watching

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01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 3: the combine yesterday?

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01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 2: I wish I was still with the Lions. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Brendan soarsby legit thinks he has a

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01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:59,080
Speaker 3: shot at this whole you know, amicable parting of ways

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01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 3: and since he helped do you see find the next quarterback?

2403
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 2: Well, no, because they've suit him.

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01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 9: It's crazy.

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01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 18: It's like it's like once you've been served with divorce papers.

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01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 18: It's like, you know what chances are she wants to

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01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:15,200
Speaker 18: leave me. There's no amicable, there's no like, well, let's

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01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 18: see if we can, like what does Brandon want to do?

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01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 18: Get back together? Like he own he could have helped

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01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 18: pick the next quarterback. He could have done all that

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01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:25,160
Speaker 18: he thought was nice to do. But if he violated

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01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 18: the contract and he had to pay UC a million dollars,

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01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 18: then pay the million dollars, well said They said in

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01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 18: the statement they wished him. Well, yeah, that's amicable.

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01:57:36,040 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 2: You think I can't wait?

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01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 3: You think he was like sitting down with Sat watching

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01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 3: tape of other quarterbacks, like, get this is the guy, Sat,

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01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 3: this is the wrench yep, this is the guy you

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01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:46,440
Speaker 3: should get to replace me.

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01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:47,600
Speaker 13: Do you know what?

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01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:49,840
Speaker 18: My favorite and I never I never brought this up

2422
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:52,320
Speaker 18: to you during the football season. One of my favorite

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01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 18: things about this past UC football season was the fact

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01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:59,720
Speaker 18: that any time Scott Saderfield was asked to reference his quarterback,

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01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 18: he just called him Sowersby. Do we think that Scott

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01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 18: Saderfield Knwest quarterbacks first name? He probably kept calling him interview,

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01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:12,440
Speaker 18: he probably kept calling him Brandon. So well, Tellerville said

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01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 18: that with Brendan k Yeah. One year what he broadcast

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01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:17,920
Speaker 18: game has just said numbers.

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01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, which is kind of what he does in

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01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:20,920
Speaker 2: the Senate.

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01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:24,120
Speaker 18: But in in the uh, in all the postgame interviews

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01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 18: you did, or like the Coaching show or interviews with

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01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:30,320
Speaker 18: Dan Horde, even on our show, Scott's Saderfield will just go, well,

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01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:31,360
Speaker 18: you know Soresby had a.

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01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:32,240
Speaker 2: Good week of practice.

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01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:35,400
Speaker 18: Or maybe that's never called him, He never called I

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01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 18: just I can't imagine Joe Zach Taylor just referring to

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01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:40,240
Speaker 18: his quarterback as Burrow Brow.

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Speaker 2: Burrow is next. We have a great show.

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Speaker 18: A minus Zach Taylor, Have a great weekend, A minus

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01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 18: Zach Taylor, F minus Treatment of the families.

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Speaker 3: Mo is next on The Mulagger Show. Thanks for listening along,

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01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:53,120
Speaker 3: have a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: More coming up. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Bear

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Speaker 2: Cats fans