1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour, final hour 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: of the Jesse Kelly Show. I don't want to waste 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: a single second teasing anything else that's coming, because I 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: don't care about anything else that's coming. I'm talking to 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Buddy Lilly right now, and I'm loving it. Veteran of 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: the Rhodesian Bush War. All right, buddy, you just got 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: over there, you get yourself signed up, and you are leaving. 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: You said, out on a convoy? What does that mean? 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Why a convoy? Where are you going? 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Went there? I was in Salisbury when I had the 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: first interview with these from this lady from the court, 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: and she sent me to Tali, which is used to 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 2: be I take a stepping off point when people were 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: going into Mosam Beacon Biara. For at one time it 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: was a vacation spot. But anyway, when I asked her 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: how do I get there? And they said, well, most 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: people hitchhike, and I said, oh cool, I kid you not. 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: We I got a TAXI went to the hitch height 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: spot and you took what you took your place in line. 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: If you understand, you know, the first person there got 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: the first ride that came by, et cetera. Et cetera. 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: And my first ride that I got was with a gentleman, 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: older gentleman who's my age now probably, but back then, uh, 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: and I had a heck of a time understanding him 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: with his heavy English accent, and he had a heck 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: of a time understanding me with my Southern accent, which 27 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: is pretty much gone now. But it was a nice ride. 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: He told me about, pointed out things. He had a 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: pristine sterling I'm sure you're familiar with that nine millimeter 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: just like a little sub machine gun he'd had for years, 31 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: and with a back of you know, whole bag of magazines. 32 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: And he just riding down the road by himself, glad 33 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: to have somebody come along in case they got into 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: a bang bang shoot him up. He let me off 35 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: at a place called the Sapi, which the Rasapi Rivers 36 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: won a notable I believe it or not, in the 37 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: middle of a war. They were doing two breast rafting 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: rafting excuse me down there, which kind of surprised me. 39 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: So uh. In between there I had gotten a ride 40 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: with a gentleman from Bird's Eye Farms. He wanted me, 41 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: he offered me a job, but again I pass out 42 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: me up because again I wasn't familiar with nothing. So anyway, 43 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: by the time I got into a sapie, I was 44 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: getting a little tired of the long comes a I 45 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: believe it was called a Rhino Army armored army armored 46 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: vehicle with four young guys in it, and they stopped 47 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: back up give me a ride. I said, this is 48 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: very cool. So I'm heading into Salisbury in this and 49 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: these guys have been called the terrorists call up Aldust. 50 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: One was eighteen, they were sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old, 51 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: and they took me into town and from there I 52 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: hooked up at the CID lady and she in turn 53 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: hooked me up with Anglo American Slash Force Management Service, 54 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: who hired me and put me on convoy duty escorting 55 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: timber trucks believe it or not, in and out of 56 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: the Tamani many mountains between Talian there. 57 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so walk me through convoy duty. What is your job? 58 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: How many vehicles? What is the danger out there the environment? 59 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: Walk us to it. 60 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: Okay. I went on as an a gunner with one 61 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: of the machhown who was carrying the mag you know 62 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: talking about felt fed and we drove around. We were 63 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: a We didn't stay in one place. In the convoy. 64 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: We had a little I think it was a a 65 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: suason and two guys in the front seat me and 66 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: a macheone are in the back with the seven six 67 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: two mag and we may we may ride a mile 68 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: back from the convoy. We may go up and get 69 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: in the middle of the convoy. And it was really 70 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: dangerous because they they would spread out too much. I 71 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: haven't got a you know, you know what I'm talking 72 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: about on that, and it was really uncomfortable. They would 73 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: get hit. After I took over as EXO at one 74 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: of the companies, but right after I left them, the 75 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: convoy got hit. But we would go in. We'd leave 76 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: them tally about one o'clock we would go into mal Setta, 77 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 2: which was where one of the sawmills was at. And 78 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: then from mel Sta we'd take one truck and go 79 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: to Tillbury Estate, which was where I would end up 80 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: being stationed at, and there we would leave an empty 81 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: track the trailer and pick up one September that been 82 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: cut come back. They had a hotel there that the 83 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: company owned. Cross us two bucks a night. We stay 84 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 2: there and about six o'clock and the next morning we'd 85 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: be back on the road back to on Tlly. Get 86 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: there about eleven o'clock, two hour turnaround, and it was 87 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: back on the road again. 88 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Buddy, you say again speaking with Buddy Lily, veteran of 89 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: the Rhodesian Bushmore. You say, after you left, the convoy 90 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: got hit? What does that mean? What happened to it? 91 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: Who did? 92 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: What? They got ambushed? Was h not far from Melsetta. 93 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 2: I'm not I can't remember everything, but it was scattered 94 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: out and they hit the one of the chase trucks 95 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 2: like I was on. Nobody was hurt, but the guys 96 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: had to give up the truck and get out of 97 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: the way. They had to hit the bush run. The 98 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: other guys uh open fire, and I found out that 99 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: G three brass line can break the windshield. I don't 100 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: know if you ever had that experience or not in 101 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: the rack or not, but brass flying in the windows 102 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: will break it all. None of the security people were hurt. 103 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: One of the Savilians lost the leg. It blew as 104 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: hitting below the below the knee and messed him up. 105 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: All right, all right, buddy, you you leave this job? 106 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: What's your next job? And why did you leave. 107 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: They had they needed an EXO at the security office 108 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: at tebuh. 109 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 4: It. 110 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: It's timberline off. I got Tillbury excuse me, Tillbury Estate 111 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: where we would we would go into at night, and 112 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: they asked me if I wanted to do it, and 113 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: I liked it. It was uh, I was uncomfortable with 114 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: the way the convoys were acting. And if you tried 115 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: to control African drivers, forget it. They don't know but 116 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: one speed and that's fast. They're racing each other, and 117 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: some things in different countries don't change. So I went 118 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: there and they asked me if I wanted to stay on. 119 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: So I went on and had my gear brought up 120 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: from Tolly and I took over as number two in charge. 121 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: Buddy, Is that where you stayed for the remainder of 122 00:07:58,840 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: the war. 123 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: Where'd you go from there? 124 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: I stayed right there. I came home on R and R. 125 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: We can go back and fill in later, but I 126 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: came home in R and R after the peacekeeping forces 127 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: came in. And once I got home, I got I 128 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: got a call. Don't come back until we call you 129 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: because it wasn't looking real good. 130 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is still I'm assuming nineteen seventy nine. 131 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 3: What does pill seventy nine? 132 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I got. I was on the convoys for 133 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: about ten days. So when they put they asked me 134 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: if I wanted to take over his XO on the 135 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: Militia Company or whatever you want to call them. They're 136 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: all mashona. There were two, myself and the other uh oh, 137 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 2: I see he was white, and then the rest of 138 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: them are all mashona. 139 00:08:58,760 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 3: Mashona. 140 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: All right, now we are gonna continue this story, actually 141 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: right there in a moment mashona, because this is something 142 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: that's the obviously more appropriate word. I believe that I 143 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: think I called him shana I. I don't know whatever, 144 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: but either way, we're gonna come back with Buddy. We'll 145 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: find out about these guys. It's just just two white 146 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: guys all black guys. I told you this wasn't a 147 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: white versus black thing like our dirty COMI media in 148 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: this country sold everybody. But we'll be back. Get the 149 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: rest of Buddy Lily's story. Veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War, 150 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: hang on. 151 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: It is the. 152 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday. Remember you can email 153 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: the show Jesse at Jesse Kellyshow dot com back with 154 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: Rhodesian Bush War veteran Buddy Lily. Okay, buddy, you take 155 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: over as XO. Sorry, that's executive officer for any civilian types. 156 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: You don't understand what that means. You take over as 157 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: XO of a quote militia company. 158 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 3: Were there a lot of those I had? 159 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 2: Well, I only had I had sixty shown in my company. 160 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: I used the term militia. They called themselves guards. I 161 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: had sixty. Giver take. Some of them stayed at the 162 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: compounds where the Europeans lived at. We kept two to 163 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 2: three there all the time. You know they lived there, 164 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: I mean they they lived with the families, They ate 165 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: with the families. They stayed up and guarded them all 166 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: night long. And we usually we stayed around sixty personnel 167 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 2: give or take all. 168 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: Right, So how are you getting around the country? And 169 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: what are you doing? 170 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: What? 171 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: What what are you doing with these Mashona tribesmen that 172 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: that you're now basically in charge of? 173 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: What? What what are you doing? 174 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: Well, as I mentioned, we had people that stayed at 175 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: the European compounds where the Europeans lived at White they 176 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: called them Europeans over there. They were the permanent security. 177 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: And then We ran patrols, mounted patrols, foot patrols, usual, 178 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: same stuff that you do anywhere else. Make an appearance 179 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: that let the bad guys know you're here and see 180 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: if we can get you to come out, which they 181 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: did come out. 182 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: What kind of fighters were they? 183 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: Like? 184 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: Buddy good, bad idiots, brave. 185 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: To be real honest when I'm gonna tell you I 186 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: got from some of the guys that I work with, 187 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: which a couple of them had been Rhodesian light infantry. 188 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: The hardcore were were you know, the ones that went 189 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 2: to Korea or Russia somewhere for training were pretty they 190 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: were pretty hardcore. But the rest of them were just criminals. 191 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: They didn't care who the government was. They had an 192 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: AK forty seven and they could go out and rob, steal, rate, 193 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 2: do what they want to. And it was all for liberty, 194 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: you know, to liberate the country. So if that gives 195 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 2: you an answer. 196 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: No, it it does. It's not a surprising answer at all. 197 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: Comedies are always recruiting these dirt balls in any society 198 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: to go. But your wonderful people, there's no question about it. 199 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: What was the attitude of the Rhodesians when it came 200 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: to international things? Meaning was their hatred for Britain, for 201 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: America for selling them out. 202 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: Did they ever bring it up? Did they not care? 203 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: Yes, kind of. I got checked out, vetted. They went 204 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: through my gear. They thought I was CIA, which I wasn't. 205 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: I mean, if I was, I would tell you right now. 206 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: I was on my own and I'm not. As I 207 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: told one of the guys, I said, mat, if I'm CIA, 208 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: I'd be here to do something to help you, you know, 209 00:12:55,480 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: not ended that Britain. They hated the Brits. Imagine what 210 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: happened when the British send in people for the peacekeeping force? 211 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 2: That was not pretty. 212 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: What happened? What was this peacekeeping force? What happened? 213 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: We're getting a little ahead of ourselves. But when the 214 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 2: Lord Carrington, Jimmy Carter, I believe all of them got 215 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: together and they came up with this plan there was 216 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: gonna be free elections, which didn't happen. New Zealand, Australia 217 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 2: two other countries sent in supposedly peacekeeping forces, which was 218 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: a laugh because when these guys traveled with our convoys, 219 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: they traveled a lot and loaded. What does that tell you? 220 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: But that's why I came home in r and r 221 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: because we had been we'd been shut down. I couldn't 222 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: do any patrols. My last patrol, which is a good story, 223 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: I'll tell that in a minute. But we would shut down. 224 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: That was it. 225 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: Patrol. 226 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: Well, let me let me if I could let me 227 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: go into the day by day routine. 228 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: Please go ahead, please, that. 229 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: Would work into everything. I hadn't been there too long when, 230 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: for what reason I never understood, the terriffs would go 231 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: in there and try and set the forest on fire. 232 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: It was a timber form. There was a thirty thousand 233 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: acres of Georgia pines there. That's hard to believe. That 234 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: they had brought him in years before and they grew 235 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: exceedingly fast and healthy up there in the mountains. So 236 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: we had to go let provide security for the company 237 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: workers along the saw mill workers who were trying to 238 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: put the fire out, And that ended up most of 239 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: the night. About three o'clock in the morning. Uh, my 240 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: E five in charge, I call it E five. They 241 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: have one sergeant, one sergeant major, and everybody else were 242 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: foot soldiers. He came in and a little bit of 243 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: humor stood at attention in my room and sounded like 244 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: when you're Kippling with his famous serve. I believe they 245 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: want you at the fire perfectly, So we hauled but 246 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: out get down there. Uh the estate managers supervising. This 247 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: is two or three o'clock in the morning, and they 248 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: kept setting little fires different places and it weren't burning good, 249 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: but they were trying to set them. So he told 250 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: the sergeant and another couple of the machoner to take 251 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: me to a certain area to get out and fire 252 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: some rounds so that one group may think that the 253 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: other group was in contact. Which, okay, that worked, so 254 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: we did that. We come flying back in through there. 255 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: I stopped the we were we had what was called 256 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: Leopard it was supposedly, you know, explosion proof vehicle, and 257 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: we stopped and there was an explosion. The army had 258 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: sent a reactionary force from downtown Melsetta, which is a 259 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: lot of very but besides that, it's not very big. 260 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: But they had army detachment there and they come up 261 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: and they hit a mine. I could see first heard 262 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: an RPG go off which came from the weapon, came 263 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: from the army vehicle. They fired, and I could a 264 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: cotton glips and some green tracers, and I hauled at Well, 265 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: let me go back to my sergeant again and for 266 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: a little humor. 267 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: Pause for just a moment, Buddy, I hate to interrupt 268 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: you midstory, but we have a heartbreak. We'll come back 269 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: and we'll go to your sergeant major as you're in 270 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: the middle of a firefight and land mines and everything else. 271 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: I hate to interrupt you at this point, but hang on, 272 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: we're going to commercial. We'll be right back with Buddy 273 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: Lily hamp on an amazing Wednesday. I'm just nerding out 274 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: right now with veteran of the Rhodesian bush War, Buddy Lily. 275 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: I've never done an interview this long on this show, 276 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: and I'm loving it. All Right, Buddy, the floor is 277 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: back to being yours. Got yourself in a firefight. There's 278 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: RPGs green tracers that means decades, by the way for 279 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: people who don't know, And the floor is back to 280 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: being yours. 281 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: So I saw the same one. He stands up behind me. 282 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: I'm driving and he says, sir, I believe it is 283 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: an ambush, And I said, I said, I'm driving, You're 284 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: in charge. So I had to go up about fifty yards. 285 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: Don't even fifty yards twenty five thirty yards take a 286 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 2: left on the road and I went nose to nose 287 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: with the army vehicle that and hit the mind to 288 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 2: avoid free fire. In between all this, it wasn't funny then, 289 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: it's funny now they cut loose with a G three. Oh. 290 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: I had three guys in the back, two of them 291 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: had G three's and one of them had a FA 292 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: and the sergeant. They're firing over the top through the canvas, 293 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: and you know where all the brass is going. Oh, 294 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: you've been there before. 295 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I had one down my flack jacket right time. 296 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 2: Oh. 297 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: Oh, I've never just robed so fast in my life. 298 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: Ah. As you know in ambushes, it's over in thirty seconds. 299 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 2: When I pulled in, everybody quit firing, and two minutes 300 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: later everybody's out front. They're shaking. My guys are with 301 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: the Mashona Army guys. They're shaking hands and exchanging cigarettes. 302 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: And the driver gets out and he says, oh, you're 303 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: the yank. I said, yes, sir, and he said glad 304 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: to meet you. You know, he said, this is my 305 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: fifth mind I've hit. And I looked at him. I said, 306 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: this is the fifth time you've hit a mind. He 307 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: said yep, And I said Jesus H And I was deaf, 308 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: I had I was still felting being burnt. And these 309 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: guys were just so relaxed, you know, you automatically and 310 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: drenalin goes down. Everybody's cool. So we wait back and 311 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 2: had breakfast. What can I. 312 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 3: Say, Rhodesians? Did you find them to be good troops? Buddy? 313 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: Yes, the ones that I all the guys that I 314 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: worked with on the convoy, one of them was still 315 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: active duty from the Rhodesian Rifles. He had been in 316 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: the bush so long he had months of leaves, so 317 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: they gave him his lead. He was a sergeant major 318 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 2: and he was working for the company while he was 319 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 2: on leave. One of the guys had come from RLI 320 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 2: and I saw his record. In one month he did 321 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: twenty seven jumps. How many? Guy? Many? 322 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: Good? Great, That's more than most guys doing their whole career. Buddy, 323 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: I have to ask you about your last patrol. 324 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: Tell us that story. 325 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: When the King's Keeping Forces came in, the estate manager said, look, 326 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: we're going to have to quit. We can't go out there. Well, 327 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: about a month prior we'd had him come into one 328 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: of the villages, and unfortunately we couldn't catch up with 329 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: them before they got to the TTL, which is their 330 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: tribal trust land. We even put a block and force 331 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: south and just couldn't get to them. There's a lot 332 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: more to it, but that just now the two. So 333 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: with payday coming up, he said, let's go out. Said 334 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: go out and let the tears know that we're looking 335 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: for him anyway, because they like to come into the 336 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: villages on Payday and help themselves to whatever money they 337 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: could get. We were doing a short run. One my 338 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 2: point guy looked and picked up a letter. It was 339 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 2: a fresh letter, had been opened, but it was a 340 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: terrorist writing each other back and forth. And he says, 341 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 2: they're here. I said, oh great, So I called headquarters. 342 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: We had radios. They weren't real good, but we called 343 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: and I said, we're going to follow them. So here 344 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 2: we go. I only had two I had five guys 345 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 2: with me. I had two canteens of water with me 346 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: and that was it. And we got on a game 347 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 2: trail got going down the hills. First thing I was 348 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 2: walking point at the time. First thing I came across 349 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: as a trip wire. Well it wasn't a trip wire. 350 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: It was a snare. My guys explained to me that 351 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 2: the tears would snare an animal and just leave it 352 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: and when they needed food next time they come through, 353 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: they kill it, which is i'd get new. Well, you know, 354 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: that slowed us down. We found it was a nice trail, 355 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: but we found one or two more of those. It's 356 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: been so long. And we came out of the brush 357 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: on the side of a hill a little bit and 358 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: next thing I know, I had my tracker was up front. 359 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: Stephen was his English name. He was a Mashona and 360 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: he was like a goat. He could just walk up anything. Jesse. 361 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: I looked down and there was a stream down there, 362 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: and it must have been two hundred foot straight down rocks. 363 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 2: And I have never felt my gut come up in 364 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: my throat like it right then. Two reasons I didn't 365 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 2: want to fall, and we were wide open if we 366 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: were following you know, uh, terrorists four. And now I'm 367 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: all I could think of. I had screwed up big time. 368 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 2: I got this whole patrol right here in the open, 369 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: and we had about fifteen foot to go, And when 370 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: we finally got up there, I was man. I would say, 371 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 2: we all just kind of laid down, and by then 372 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: all two canteens of water was gone. This has been 373 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: six seven hours. Just got comfortable. Steven looks up and 374 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: he motions at me. He put his fingers up on 375 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: my on his collar, which so then that you know, 376 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: for me to come forward. There's a good coming up 377 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 2: the river the stream. He's not armed, and of course 378 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: they want me to came out. And we didn't know 379 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 2: if it was a terrorist or whether it was a villager. 380 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: We sat there watching, watching. He was going along doing 381 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 2: something in the water, and I could have got him. 382 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: It wasn't over one hundred and fifty yards. I could 383 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 2: have popped him, but I didn't want to shoot an 384 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 2: innocent although they weren't supposed to be there. Said okay, 385 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: let's see if we can slip down and capture him, 386 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: which was not a good idea because he probably had friends, 387 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: but it was a good idea at the time. We 388 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: knocked the rock down the hill, just like. 389 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 3: In the movie. 390 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: Oh. 391 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: I motioned the guys to go in in defensive position. 392 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: I said, oh, we are so screwed. That was two 393 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: mistakes I had made the same day, and nothing happened. 394 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: We waited. Finally we used on down the hill. We 395 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: got to the creek and myself and Steven stood guard. Well, 396 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 2: the rest of them got in the water and then 397 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: they stood guarding. We got down and got cooled off 398 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: and everything ended up. We had lost radio contact. Headed 399 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: up on Follally, got upon a hill where I could 400 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: reach the base, told them where we were. They knew 401 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: where we were at, so they said, wait, we'll send 402 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 2: our guys out to get you. And we sat there 403 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: talking and it was very sad because one of the 404 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: guys asked me. He said, mister They called me, mister budd, 405 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: where are you going? You can go home when this 406 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: is over, And I looked at him. I said, guys, 407 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: all I can tell you to do. If my gobby wins, 408 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 2: take your weapons and go to South Africa, travel at 409 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: night all because they could not go back to their 410 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 2: village's just if they did, they'd be killed. Plus their 411 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: families would be killed because they had been you know, 412 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: security people. So as by then we got on back 413 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: and we couldn't do anything. They would just sit around 414 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 2: just kill time and you know, twittled your thumbs. So 415 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: that's when I asked the boss about going home. On 416 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: R and R for thirty days or whatever. Of course, 417 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: they gave me a wish list of stuff to bring back, 418 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: which I knew I couldn't do, but I would try anyway. 419 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 2: And that's about how it ended. Got home and got 420 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: a call. So there I was broke, unemployed. I tried 421 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: to get my job back with the government and that 422 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: didn't go over. Real good. 423 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: Story, Jacky, Buddy Lily, Buddy, I just cannot thank you 424 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: enough for giving us this perspective is it's nothing. 425 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 3: I know. 426 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: People are just wrapped up fascinated by it. I've been 427 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: fascinated by it. Thank you for one your service to 428 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: our country, service to a wonderful country like Rhodesia, for 429 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: giving us some time. Appreciate you very much, Buddy, Lily, 430 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: simplify my friend. Merry Christmas to you and yours, by 431 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: the way, Mary Christmas. It is The Jesse Kelly Show. 432 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: Final segment of The Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Wednesday. 433 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: You can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. 434 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: What a freaking week it has been. Already we're cruising 435 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: into the end of it. We're like ten minutes away 436 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: from Donald Trump addressing the nation now presidents are almost 437 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: always late. You can be late when you're the president 438 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: of the United States of America. But at nine pm Eastern, 439 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: we'll see if the rumors are true that he's essentially 440 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: gonna say Venezuela's got it coming. Jewish producer Chris disagrees 441 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: that's what he's gonna say. I'm not saying I think 442 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: it is. There's a lot of rumors going around. 443 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 3: We'll find out. 444 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: Let's hope by the time I sit down tomorrow, we're 445 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: not at war with Venezuela. What Chris, Chris said, Congress 446 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: would never declare war. What do you think you live 447 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: in a country where that still matters. They don't even 448 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: ask Congress anymore. They just decide to go do it 449 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: whenever they want to do it. It's just whatever, Jesse. 450 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: We need to import all of Western Europeans who hold 451 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,239 Speaker 1: our ideals that are about to lose their lands. We 452 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: will need them to reconquer our own, and then we 453 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: need to conquer Canada as well. If Mexico, Mexico looks 454 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: at us wrong, they'll be next. I love Canadians and 455 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: there are so many hardcore right wingers in Canada and 456 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: they are outnumbered impossibly. Now they were always outnumbered a little. 457 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: But now I heard an incredible stat and I don't 458 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: want to misquote it, So let'll we just clarify what 459 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm about to say. Maybe incorrect, but I think it's 460 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: in the last four or five years, Canada has had 461 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: a twenty percent increase in their population all foreigners. They 462 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: just completely Look, I've told you that's what they want 463 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: to do. That's the plan. You outnumber your patriotic citizens 464 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: so they never have a voice and you get to 465 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: maintain your tyranny forever. The ultimate patriotic issue is immigration. 466 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: You can tell how patriotic you are based on how 467 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: you are on that issue, because to the communist it 468 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: is everything. Why do you think they talk like this? 469 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: How do you think it ends? How do you think 470 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: the era ends? 471 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 3: This is I'm hoping. 472 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 5: This is what I'm hoping that midterms people come out 473 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 5: and vote like crazy to switch it over and then 474 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 5: the recon incomes. That's what I want. All everybody that 475 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 5: work for ICE, I want them in jail. I just 476 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 5: want a wreck. 477 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: Everybody that works for ICE. I want them in jail. 478 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: They'll talk like this, but Democrats will now without even 479 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: like it's not like there, it's a text message that 480 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: got exposed. They'll step up to the microphone in public 481 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: and they'll announce that immigrants built America, just right in 482 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: your face. 483 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: They don't hide it at all. Again, here's Steve Cohen. 484 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: They're arresting people simply for the offense of being in 485 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: the country illegally. 486 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 3: It's not right. 487 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: They're mortified that we're deporting people who are here illegally. Anyway, 488 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: as far as bringing in people who share our values, 489 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: it's a fun thing to dream about. It will never happen. 490 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: Trump did a little of it. He brought in some Africaners. 491 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: Remember Africaners. Well, actually, it's a good time to bring 492 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: it up. What happened in Rhodesia. It's happening already in 493 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: South Africa now too, where the ruling communist elite there 494 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: they've declared that white people are the enemy, white people 495 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: are evil, and white people were under assault over there. 496 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: So the white ones there are called Africaners, and Trump 497 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: brought a bunch of them over here. Notice you never 498 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: hear a word from them. 499 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: Notice they're not all on welfare. 500 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: Notice they never run to the news and talk like that. 501 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 4: The biggest worry of the new executive order is that 502 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 4: it does separate families. It doesn't create an exception for 503 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 4: you as citizens to have their family members be able 504 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: to come visit and celebrate milestones with them. And so 505 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 4: this is a very cool. 506 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: They just show up, fut a job, go to work, grateful. 507 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: Who you bring in matters a lot, It matters a lot. 508 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: Every culture is not the same, Every culture is not equal. 509 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: There are disgusting third world thieving, raping, murdering cultures out 510 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: there all across the globe. And the number of people 511 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: you should bring into your country from those cultures is zero. 512 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: You go and keep just go murder anyone you want 513 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: in your country. You stay out of my country, but 514 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: not us because we have a Democrat Party and Republicans 515 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: like James Langford. We've thrown open our borders and brought 516 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: these barbarians into your classroom. That's why they ate your 517 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: cat last week. And now here's a headline while you know, 518 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: you know the king headlines we didn't get to. Abdul 519 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: l said, by the way, he's running for office in Michigan, 520 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: not Lebanon. 521 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 3: I swear proposed. 522 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: Commuting all sentences for juveniles facing life in prison. The 523 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: plan would grant early release to some of Michigan's most 524 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: violent killers. It's almost like they're trying to put violent 525 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: criminals back into society. 526 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: No, that couldn't be it, right, I'm sure they're just No. 527 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: You've new Canadian school rule forces kids to wear helmets 528 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: to play in the snow. 529 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. I wish I could tell my father 530 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 3: about that. 531 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: Hydrogen plays part in global warming, according to a study. 532 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: I reminded that there is no global warming warming, No 533 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: man cause global warming. The Earth's weather patterns are exactly 534 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: that patterns. It heats, it cools, it does its thing. 535 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: But the very idea that man is destroying the earth 536 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: is an idea that's going to kill a couple billion 537 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: people one day. Trump's marijuana move has Democrats nervous. According 538 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: to a CNN analyst, one might say they're paranoid. Foiled again. 539 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: Fentanyl dealer shows up to court with more drugs. Hey, 540 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: that's where the criminals are. You can hardly blame him 541 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: for that. House Republican who voted to impeach Trump in 542 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one won't seek reelection. 543 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 3: Goly, we have some freaking loser dorks. 544 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: Rubio says he will not run in twenty twenty eight. 545 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 3: That JD. 546 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: Vance enters the race. That is not only are they friends, 547 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: that's just a realistic acknowledgment from Rubio that Jdvans is 548 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: going to be very difficult to beat in the Republican primary. 549 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back tomorrow. I don't even know 550 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We'll have fun, though, that's all.