1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: It's that for eleven o'clock, we're here at the Holy Grail. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: It's the cors Light Turney tip off on ESPN fifteen 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: thirty since he three to sixty comes your way at 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: the top of the hour. Chad Brendle filling my shoes 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: at three o'clock. I want to thank our friends at 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Riverband Music Center where you could see the guests Who 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: on Saturday, June twenty. 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: Seventh, first tour in twenty three years. 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: As the guests Who Rock Legends, Burton Cummings and Randy 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Bachman Gonna bring the taking It Back toward to Cincinnati. 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Also Motley Crue August twenty fifth at River Bend, Return 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: of the Carnival of Sins Tour comes to Cincinnati forty 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: fifth anniversary. Go to riverbend dot org for ticket information 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: for either of those two shows and the entire twenty 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: twenty six Riverbend calendar. Shannon Minor is here, the second 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: greatest player out of his family to play at NKU. 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: What was your career shooting percentage. 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: From three my senior year forty nine percent? 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: What was your career field goal percentage? Your son leaves 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: NKU with a career shooting percentage of one. 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. You know, on senior day, what happened to 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: your voice? It's gone? What have you been doing? 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: It's the weather, the weather, the weather, Yeah, okay, it's 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: the weather. 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: You know. 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: His senior senior day, he didn't even want to play 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: because he didn't want to mess up his. 28 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: Percent I know, he's the school's all time leader in 29 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: field goal percentage. 30 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: For you should have played more. 31 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I told Darien on senior day, you know, 32 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 3: you play him. You know he might get a couple 33 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: more ws. Yeah, might be in the tournament. But you 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: know he's got good work ethic. Don't know where he 35 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 3: gets that from. Maybe maybe his mom. 36 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: Mom. 37 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 3: He signed up to do an eight hour marathon. 38 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: We talked about this eighty hour eight okay, eight hour marathon. 39 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: He's mad because he signed up for the twelve but 40 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: he signed up late, so now he's got to do 41 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: the eight hour run. 42 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: Why would one do this to themselves? 43 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: I have no clue. 44 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: Eight hours. He doesn't want to be around his parents. 45 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: Eight hours of nothing but running. 46 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: Running in Batavia somewhere for eight hours. That's a two 47 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: mile course for eight hours. 48 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: It's not like I mean he just got done playing basketball, 49 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: is in good shape, like a fat guy like me 50 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: could probably you know, benefit from doing that. He doesn't 51 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: look that much better than us, so it looks a 52 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: lot better than me. 53 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: But I'd rather not run. Yeah, I mean, I mean, 54 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: you were eating an apple or I'm gonna do. What's 55 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: going on? I had an apple for breakfast. 56 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm about to do eight hours, an eight hour marathon 57 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: myself at noon and go be any running and no 58 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: apples and gon be more apples either. 59 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: Cider. 60 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so very very similar dynamic. My eight hour marathon 61 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: starts in about thirty five minutes. Let's put a bow 62 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: in the NKU season, which, for those who don't know, 63 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: your son wrapped up his college career with the Norse. 64 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: I thought it was a weird year because it felt 65 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: like every time they were about to kind of get going, 66 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: they'd lose and then and then lose multiple games in 67 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: a row. And I felt like the game against Wright 68 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: State and the horizonally it was kind of a microcosm 69 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: of that. 70 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think, you know, we always talk about this, 71 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 3: it's a marathon of the season. You know, you either 72 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: get worse, you get better. You want to be playing 73 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: your best at the end of the year. I do 74 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 3: think that this Sam Benson thing earlier in the year, 75 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: I think he should have got another year. You got 76 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: guys playing five and six years. Sam Benson couldn't get 77 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: another year like that hurt them because I would have 78 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: gave them more depth. They just couldn't put it together. 79 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: But I do give guys credit like LJ. He stayed 80 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: there for four years. You know, that's unheard of anymore. 81 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: It is being somewhere for four years. It is. 82 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: They were inconsistent throughout the year. They just couldn't put 83 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: it together. But I do know this, They did have 84 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: enough to win it. They were hanging. They beat Green 85 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: Bay in the tournament. They could have beat Right State. 86 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: They were beating for twenty five minutes. I thought they 87 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: were going to be Right State yep. And then I 88 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: think all bets would have been off in the final 89 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: against Detroit. 90 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: Mercall, Yeah, I mean you're right about that. It's just 91 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: it's just it's it's very difficult for the mid majors. 92 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: I know Miami was able to do it, but nku's 93 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: a little bit lower than that. And now when you 94 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: have different guys come in. They had two European players 95 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: come and it takes time to put those guys together. 96 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: Uh, you were locked into the Miami game last night? 97 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: How well do you know Travis? 98 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: Pretty well? 99 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: I mean through through coaching and sure and working camps 100 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 3: and being that a Xavier. 101 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: I mean I was texting you nine stop. Yeah, being 102 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: a coach, couldn't respond quickly enough. 103 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: I mean I was giving you a lot of information, 104 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, I was passing along videos. I was 105 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: passing along defense, offense, strategy. You know what a great story. 106 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: Yes it is. I'm thrilled for him. Kind of a throwback. Yeah, 107 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: throwback team ten players from last year. You know what. 108 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: It kind of reminds you of the NCAA fifteen twenty 109 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: years ago. Like does It was kind of refreshing to 110 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: watch the game and to really be honest with you. 111 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: Can't wait for Friday at four thirty for them to 112 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: play Tennessee. 113 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: I what I I like about their team is folks 114 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: forget they I don't want to say they had it one, 115 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: but they were in control of the MAC Tournament title 116 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: game last year. I think they had an eight point 117 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: eighteen point lead at halftime, maybe sixteen point lead. They're 118 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: in control it disintegrates. They lose by two, And it's 119 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: cliche to say, like, you know, we use that as motivation. 120 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: But I talked to Travis in August or September last 121 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: year where he's like, we've talked about that game every 122 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: single day, and I got the same team coming back. 123 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: And so they lose the way they did it a 124 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: good year last year. It didn't splinter, guys didn't go 125 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: other places. They were able to keep that roster intact, 126 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: which is so rare in this day and age, and 127 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: use that as motivation. And again it sounds cliche, but 128 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: they did, and then put together a team that offensively. 129 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: You and I were texting about it last night. The 130 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: way they move the ball, the way they take care 131 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: of it, the way they can shoot it, and the 132 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: way they can shoot it from a lot of areas 133 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: on the floor with a lot of different guys. I 134 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: do give him a chance against Tennessee. 135 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: I do say this, and I text you at the end, 136 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: and they weren't taking enough time off the clock with 137 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: three or four minutes left. They took too many quick 138 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 3: threes where they could have got the same shot twenty 139 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: seconds later. I think at that time out when they 140 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 3: had the fake double screen and he drove it and 141 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: he went back door. We called him, he went back 142 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 3: door dunk. I just think those are things like Travis 143 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: is doing a great job. He's in a perfect place 144 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: right now. Now, in a month from now, don't know 145 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: where he's going to be, don't know where that team's 146 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: going to be. 147 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: Who's going to be back. 148 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: That's going to be interesting because two years of success. 149 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. 150 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: I said to Rick Bring before, I feel like he 151 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: picked a bad year to have a great year because 152 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: I just I don't know that that gig is going 153 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: to be open that you go, you know what, that 154 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense for him. But look, man, 155 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: stay in Oxford and kill it there for a while 156 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: and eventually an opportunity is going to come. 157 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: Well here's the thing. 158 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: His stock is high right now. Sure, so next year 159 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: guys leave, they have a different chemistry. You win eighteen games, 160 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: now your stock goes down. So you got the Butler thing, 161 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: you know, I just think, like, you know, for me, 162 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 3: he's from Indiana, I graduated from there. 163 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: I just think that would be a. 164 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: Spot for him. The triple with salary. I mean, I'm 165 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: just saying like it's. 166 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: Kind of hard. 167 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: Now you'll be excited about this because I know you 168 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: love Illinois coach Brad Underwood. 169 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: Love them. I have him in the final four? You 170 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: do I do? I do? 171 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: I have him beating Houston, and I have him beating 172 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: Florida offensively Illinois when they're at their best. 173 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: Do you have them too? I met Lait eight got 174 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: Florida beating them, okay, which is obviously plausible. 175 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: Florida played terrific over the last month and then didn't 176 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: play great against Kentucky and look checked out against Vanderbilt. 177 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: But that Illinois team, now, the other end of it 178 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: is they're not great defensively, but they're at full health offensively. 179 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: I love how they play, can beat you inside and out. 180 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: Your guy, Brad Underwood, your favorite coach maybe in the country. 181 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: Chris Mack Is he still coaching? But don't tell anybody 182 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: I said that. Yeah, he's at was that kys of 183 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: Charleston They didn't make the turn on? No, he's pretty 184 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: upset about that. He'll be back next year. 185 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: He is. He could have been on the show today. 186 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: He could have been. He filled in for me two 187 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: years ago, three years ago. He ain't anything that he 188 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: face time him and asked him what time his team 189 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: took me. 190 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: That again, we should let's let's do it before the 191 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: marathon starts. 192 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: But I know you like Brett Underwood, like Hell's teams squad. 193 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: Yes, great coach. Like his offense a few years ago 194 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: was so good. I think they've recruited differently now so 195 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: they don't run the same offense. But like a lot 196 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: of teams, and you know this watching the NBA, they'll 197 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: do a little Horn's action. 198 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: Put two shooters in the corner yep and one guys 199 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: in the high post. 200 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 201 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Illinois does more than that. 202 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: I I know you do. You played it, so why not? 203 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: You were an all start Scott High School. But what 204 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 3: I'm saying is his old offense kept all five guys moving, 205 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: and I think we lose track of that. Miami does 206 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: a great job of that, always moving guys. They could 207 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 3: play inside outside, same way with Illinois. Now they could 208 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: play inside outside. They got some death inside and it 209 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 3: could get forward to some problems. 210 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: I know you know Pat Kelsey well, and I wish 211 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: he had his guy MIKEL. Brown, who's when healthy and 212 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: he just hasn't been healthy enough. But when healthy. He's 213 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: a lottery pick caliber player. I don't know if he's 214 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: going to go on the lottery because of the injuries. 215 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: But we've seen I mean Kentucky fans saw it. Fans 216 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: in the ACC saw it, and that backcourt with Conwell 217 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: and mckel brown together as a load. Cincinnati fans saw it. Unfortunately, 218 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: they're an entirely different team without him, and so I 219 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: worry about him against the USF. I would worry about 220 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: him if they played mccronin and USC or UCLA later 221 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: on in the tournament. 222 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: I wish Pat had a team at full strength. I 223 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: mean it helps. 224 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: I mean you saw last night with smuh they didn't 225 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: have their best player. 226 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so second or third second, I mean. 227 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 3: He averages thirteen five whatever, because still you take someone 228 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: out that that hurts your team. I mean I saw 229 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 3: U c l A play a lot last week because 230 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: I went to the Big ten tournament. 231 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: They're good. They're good's awesome, awesome, healthy. 232 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: It went healthy sat with their tall guy. 233 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: Uh, help me out. It begins with the beat. 234 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: Sorry, I mean, if they have their whole team. I 235 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: even said this. I was telling uh mixed brother Dan 236 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: that if there's so much better on defense this year 237 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: u c l A and I know mix about defense, 238 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 3: but also they're a team that can control the tempo 239 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: as well. 240 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: U c l A. 241 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 3: They don't look to push the ball a lot tyler 242 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: do his his his aunt was sitting right next to 243 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 3: talking to her. But they don't push the ball lot 244 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: U c l A ulets they get a steal and 245 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 3: the half court offense, they're superb. They're good and their 246 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 3: defense has gotten better. That's a team that can meet 247 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: in Michigan State again. Yes, and I have them beating 248 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 3: Michigan State. 249 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: What's that called the blueprint? They got it. 250 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: So what I what I liked about Mixed team this 251 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: year is they went through a stretch where they got 252 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: clobbered by Michigan. They got clobbered on the road at 253 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: Michigan State. And you know, Mick was making more noise 254 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: for postgame press conferences and sound bites and things like that, 255 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: and people are wondering God is making to get let 256 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: go at UCLA. And then, as he often does, he grinds, 257 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: puts his those down, gets his team to rally. They've 258 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: lost two games since and made the tournament and made 259 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: it with ease, so and and they're healthy. They as 260 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: healthy as they've been since the beginning of the season. 261 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: You know, the team that's op pressed with was Per 262 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: new Yes, watching him, lots senior oriented. Yeah, they got 263 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: one of the best guards, Brayden Smith. When you're getting 264 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: fifteen assists in a game and you can score. Here's 265 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: the thing, though, when he brings the ball down the 266 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: court and he doesn't even have to look over at 267 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: the coach anymore, right, he already knows. It's like having 268 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: a player manager a manager, you know, like Pete rose Back, 269 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: like he understands the game so well. And they got 270 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: a big guy. They got two big. 271 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: Guys, right, you know what they're They're a little bit 272 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: of a version of Miami where top four players or 273 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: seniors and the top three among those four have been 274 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: in West Lofaiette for years. So it's great continuity for 275 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: Matt Painter to beat that Michigan team the way they did. 276 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: I have Michigan winning the whole thing because I just 277 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: think top to bottom. I view it through a limited spectrum. 278 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: Who is the team that most often during the season 279 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: made me go they're the best team in the country. Now, 280 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: there were times where I felt like god, Arizona is 281 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: the best team in the country. There have been times, 282 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: love Cam Booser, I felt like Duke is the best 283 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: team in the country, Florida the way they've played late, 284 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: But the team that over the course of the last 285 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: four months when I've watched them I've been most impressed 286 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: by has been Michigan. Also, just picking teams, I feel like, 287 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: if you're gonna pick ones, more folks are gonna pick Duke, 288 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: Florida and Arizona than Michigan. So that's that has something 289 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: to do with it. But for Perdue to beat that 290 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: team the way they did, it kind of got lost 291 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: because as soon as the game ends, we dropped the bracket, 292 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: we kind of forget about, forget to talk about what 293 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: just happened. But Purdue's running the Big Ten tournament. For 294 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: a team that lost five games in a home of 295 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: the year, it felt like multiple times Matt Painters team 296 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: was going to go sideways, peaking at the right time. 297 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: Well, I could tell you that I watched Michigan in person. 298 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 3: I know you're big on them. Yeah, I'm just not there. 299 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 2: Let ya sell landing board. 300 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, his girlfriend's good looking, Okay, tell you 301 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: that much. 302 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: Nice Okay, that's just a little weird. Just okay, how 303 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: old are you? Fifty one? I still look at creepy 304 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: big tournament. 305 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: But I will tell you this. They lost at the 306 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,359 Speaker 3: buzzer or they wanted the buzzer. The guy from Wisconsin 307 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 3: lost his man, the best player on the court. How 308 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 3: do you lose the best player on the court hits 309 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 3: a buzzer beater? I think I don't think. 310 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: Michigan is as good as national champs. I just don't know. 311 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: I don't. 312 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 3: I will say this though, the eight teams that I 313 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: have in the Elite eight, I think they could all 314 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: win the national title. 315 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: All right, you have Michigan in the final four, yeah, 316 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: Virginia and the eliteas Yeah, okay, I. 317 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: Think they can win a lot of teams. Don't talk 318 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 3: about them. Got to beat Iowa State. But I think 319 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: all those teams can win it. You don't think Illinois 320 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 3: and Florida could win it? 321 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: Oh? 322 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do? 323 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I of course, Okay, maybe not Ucla. I 324 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: don't think Ucla can win it. I do think they 325 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: can win multiple games in this year. 326 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: Good. They probably couldn't beat Duke. 327 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: I don't think so. And for what it's worth. I 328 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: just mentioned when UCLA played Michigan State of mase Lansing. 329 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: That wasn't close. That was a twenty four point game. 330 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: You know, we had the best record home record in 331 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: the Big Ten this year. Give it to me, Ucla. 332 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: They did. 333 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm thinking they lost. They lost in Indiana. I think 334 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: at home game, double overtime. That was their one loss. 335 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: As much as Mick talks about going to yeah, no, 336 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: they today's teams got to come. 337 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: They held serve at home. Yeah yeah, yeah, so, I 338 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: mean they do. He never talks about that. 339 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: No Oly, how many times he seen the Statue of Liberty. 340 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, that's it. That's all. 341 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: That's all you wants to talk about. Which I get it, 342 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: and it is hard. It is hard here at UCLA 343 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: and you're going out there. 344 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: But they you got to remember them. The West team's 345 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: got to come out to the West. 346 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: Coast Horizon League. Guy, right States in this field, do 347 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: you give Right State a chance? Well, I mean, I 348 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: know you have Virginia beating them, but the Right State 349 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: team that I watched in the second half against NKU 350 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: can make Virginia uncomfortable because they. 351 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: Can control the tempo in the game. Yes, I think 352 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: that's two teams that can really control the tempo's game. 353 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: Right, So it's gonna be a low scoring game, that's 354 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: for sure, right, so writes they. Obviously, you know has 355 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: to shorten a game and try to make it less 356 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: possessions because if there's more possessions, I don't think they're 357 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: gonna win. 358 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: But I think Virginia wins that game. I think Santa 359 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: Clair is going to be Kentucky. I got damn. 360 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: I got TCU winning in South Florida. 361 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: Santa Clara has four guys who make forty percent of 362 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: their threes. They're big and Kentucky. I've waited all year 363 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: long for Kentucky to give me a reason to believe 364 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: in them because I want to. It's fun when they're good, 365 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: and they have talented players, and they they have dealt 366 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: with a lot of injuries this year. But all year long, 367 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: I've been I've been waiting to see them play well 368 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: enough over an extended amount of time for me to 369 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: feel confident in them come March. 370 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: That never materialized. What's the X factor for Santa Claire. 371 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: Who's the coach? 372 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: It's Herb send Deck, pretty good coach. I went to 373 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: a herb send Deck basketball game. 374 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: Was Sean Miller there too, because he was on that staff? 375 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably was, so this this was nineteen ninety before. 376 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: How about that staff? Awesome? 377 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: It was Charlie Coles, it was hearbst in Deck, Sean Miller, 378 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: and there was one more. 379 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: I saw the picture of like fifteen hundred yeah wins 380 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: among the can't remember the other guys quartet, and I'm 381 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to go. 382 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: Look that up. Wasn't Jermaine Henderson. I know that most. 383 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: Definitely was that Jermaine. And I could could assure you 384 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: at that when you said. 385 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: Santa Clair beat UK, you had Jared Moore looking up 386 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: here at you. 387 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: Ker knows. I feel that way. I mean, I you know, 388 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: right there again. 389 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: All year long, I waited for Kentucky to play well 390 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: enough over an extended amount of time to feel like 391 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: that's a team I can trust. In March and I 392 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: felt like they had the big comeback against LSU, they 393 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: had the huge comeback against Tennessee. I thought, all right, 394 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: now they take off and it never really happened. 395 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: How much more longer you think Mark Pope passed? I 396 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: did not. I mean, I don't know. 397 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 3: I just don't like, they don't give you much time. 398 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: No in the blue Blood. Okay, so they made this 399 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: meet sixteen last year. 400 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: If they get back there this year, where if they 401 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: lose today, that's interesting. 402 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, because hey, it's Kentucky. 403 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: B it's a roster that's worth reportedly twenty to twenty 404 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: two million dollars. 405 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: So and this is. 406 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: Off to our script that you sent me last night. 407 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: But I sent you a script last night. I know 408 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: you didn't. 409 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 3: But if Martin Pope is not the coach, who would 410 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: be somebody out there that could fill that void? 411 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: That is an awesome question. 412 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just saying, like, if you get rid 413 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 3: of him, so next. 414 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: Guy, If you would have asked me that question five 415 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: years ago, I would have said Sean Miller because Caliperry. Guy, 416 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: it felt like, you know, again, this is coming out 417 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: of the era that Sean was in at Arizona where 418 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: he got in trouble. Now he could pay players, so 419 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: who cares. I don't feel like that would necessarily work. 420 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know that Sean would want to leave Texas. 421 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: I don't. 422 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: It's a pressure cooker, there's no doubt about that. It 423 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: always has been. But the resources are immense, and it's Kentucky. 424 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't know who the next guy would be. 425 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 426 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: There's not like a tree of guys, like a coaching 427 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 3: tree that used to be there that could come back. 428 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: Right, I would ask. 429 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: I don't know that he and I like him a lot, 430 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: and I think he squeezed a lot out of the 431 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: team this year. Rick Patino's relationship with Kentucky has been repaired. 432 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: Can you imagine? Can you imagine? 433 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: But but like Richard did fine at New Mexico and 434 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: did fine at Aras at Minnesota, and I think it's 435 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: going to do good work at Xavier. 436 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: Would that I don't know. Here's two things. 437 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: Number One, what's a better replacement than Mark Pope? 438 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: You don't have that right now. Number Two, you have 439 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 2: a good year at Xavier, right right. That's a tough set. 440 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: But is that a reflection of him or just the 441 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: best situation he went into it? 442 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: Za, Yeah, it's a combination of all that. 443 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 444 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: I just don't think there's anyone in line. I think 445 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: you got to stay with Mark Pope another year. Yeah, 446 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: but today if they lose, that amps up a little 447 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: bit more. 448 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 2: Sure. 449 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: So there is a lot of pressure, and I know 450 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: he didn't let his players talk to the media and 451 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. 452 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 2: That that like, is that. 453 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: Being more focused trying to be more focused? 454 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, but in that job that is weird, 455 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: Like I don't know. All right, rest your voice. 456 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm waiting for this marathon. You tell me 457 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna marathon. Eight hour marathon starts in seventeen minutes. Yeah, 458 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: this is great. 459 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: Mitchell and I are both getting ready for eight hour marathons. 460 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: Mitchell's marathon does not consist of alcohol. 461 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 2: What are you saying? He does? Mean he drinks less 462 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: than you. 463 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: Why do you assume my marathon's going to involve alcohol 464 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: and water? Maybe I'm gonna read, but maybe I'm watching 465 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: basketball looking for an apple tree. 466 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 2: I enjoyed an apple. I had two oranges too. You've changed. 467 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: I don't even know who you are. 468 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: You are. 469 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: I'm used to you having a beer and a cigar. 470 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 3: You're on a water in an apple. 471 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: I'm working, okay, I'm on the clock. 472 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: In sixteen minutes, I will not be on the clock 473 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: anymore and the marathon will start. And if you come 474 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: down to the Holy Grail, you can you can see 475 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: if you want to join me, and it'd be great. 476 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: This is fifteen years we've been here. 477 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: It has and then and then another marathon tomorrow and 478 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: there's no show to do, so that marathon pit start 479 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: before noon, all right, Our guy, Shannon Minor, thank you 480 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: was always we'll preview since E three sixteen when we 481 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: come back on ESPN fifteen thirty. 482 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station COR's Life Presents to Chill