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Brought 10 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: to you by Willow River Company. 11 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: Question number one. 12 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: Wait when wait ball. 13 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 4: It's now time to delve d than the Twins territory. 14 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Twins offense mustard only four hits. They only 15 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: had one at bat with a runner on second base 16 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: and a three to one loss at Kansas City yesterday. 17 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: Kyle Isbel for the Royals hit a two run homer 18 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: off of Simien Woods Richardson in the second inning, and 19 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: Isaac Collins hit a solo shot off of Cody Thunderberg 20 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: in the seventh Matt Warner's Matt Walner's solo shot was 21 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: the only run that Twins could score. Common What sticks 22 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: out to you from yesterday's twins loss. 23 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: I'm just another one that won in three or one 24 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: in four and three. They play tonight, I on pace four. Now, boy, 25 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: you do you're better at math than I am. 26 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: It's a round forty wins. It's it'll be a decimal. 27 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: Do they play tonight or do they have a day 28 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: off again? 29 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: Because you know early in the year they oftentimes will 30 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: have a day between games in a three game series 31 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: because in case of a snow all over tomorrow Tomorrow night, 32 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: first night game of the year, Joe Ryan will be 33 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: back on the hill they had yesterday. 34 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: Just the lack of hitting when you when you needed it. 35 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean they even. 36 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: They only had if I read this correctly, they only 37 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: had one runner in scoring position in the entire game. 38 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 2: I think they only got I got a second base 39 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: one time. Can't hit, can't pitch, can't hit, can't play defense. 40 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: What's wrong with them? Mark? 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: So they've got all those sorts of issues. 42 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: I just I believe that they're just they're just not 43 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: they don't have They're just not a very good team. 44 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: And could that change as time goes on. I suppose 45 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: they were. Also they had these in in the uh 46 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: in the story about Ryan pitching. 47 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: Nobody they capped or didn't cap it, but. 48 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: They end of the story they had to look ahead 49 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: in the in the Gamer and they talked about, you know, 50 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: the game with Joe Ryan, and apparently Ryan has been 51 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: brilliant against the Royals, particularly at Coffin Stadium. But like 52 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: I always say, well, that doesn't mean he's going to 53 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: be tomorrow. Just because he has in the past doesn't 54 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: guarantee we'll have you if he doesn't have his best 55 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: stuff or a couple of hitters get hot. I saw 56 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: where in that store. I didn't realize this. They moved 57 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: in the fences a little bit in Kansas City foul 58 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: polls because that notoriously has been one of the hardest 59 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: ballparks to hit home runs in. But it just seems 60 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: like it's going to be a long summer for the Twins. 61 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: You know, look, I I'd love if they were. It's 62 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: a nice distraction in the middle of summer. If the 63 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: team is playing well and they're they're in the hunt 64 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: for either division tight or wild card. 65 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's pay attention. But I don't. I just 66 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: don't see it happening at all. I don't know about you. 67 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: Have you seen the forecast for the home home opener 68 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: this weekend? Friday? You're gonna go to High A forty 69 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: one with a sixty five percent chancellrain Saturday, they play 70 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: it one ten week, could get snow that day. Yeah, 71 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: High A thirty five. I tried to tell them they 72 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't listen. That's gonna be the worst attendant home opener 73 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: in target Field history. I am. 74 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: I told them when they first were discussing building a 75 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: new stadium, I said, you got to put a retractable 76 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: roof on it. 77 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: And I was the roses of the world roll. 78 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 2: Well, not just that, I think a lot of the 79 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: listeners did to a lot of fans. 80 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: Oh, we don't want that, we want to realsumes. 81 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: Okay, it's and it's not even so much for the 82 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: beginning of the year, like heaven forbid we ever get 83 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: into a World Series again in November. You know how 84 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: the weather can be here November. Who wants to watch them? 85 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: And I've said this before, it's not even so much 86 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: I worry about the about the fans being cold. Baseball 87 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: played in thirty two degree weathers not the way it 88 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: was supposed to be played. It just wasn't when you 89 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: get the game's not going to be the same. It's cool, 90 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: you know, that's why you know the boys and then 91 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: you know the Fall Classic when you played in early October, 92 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: there's a chill in the air, but it's you have you, 93 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: you have your We used to call them Indian summers. 94 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're allowed to say that anymore 95 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: if it's Native American summers. But ye, you would get 96 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: nice weather in October and uh yeah, so you're right. 97 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think. 98 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: You'll get many people going if it's if it's snowing 99 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 2: and and I don't know, do they have a day 100 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: worked in here for the Twins on this weekend too? 101 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: Do they have like oh no, it's Friday, start of 102 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: sunning and then they're back here against Detroit on Monday. 103 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: Good luck with that. That's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. See, 104 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: there's no days off in between once the Twins start 105 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: at home here. 106 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they'll get any people, I mean, 107 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: especially not just the weather, but the team. 108 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: Team. Yes, it's a combination. It's a combo. Per question 109 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: number two. 110 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: Let's win. 111 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 2: Let's game. 112 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 4: It's now time to take an in depth look at 113 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: the state of the skool. 114 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: Interim GM Rob Razinski announced yesterday that the team will 115 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: pick up the fifth year option on wide receiver Jordan Addison. 116 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: It is projected to cost the team eighteen million dollars 117 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty seventh season. Last season, Hasn't got 118 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: just forty two passes for six hundred and ten yards 119 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: and three tutties. He missed three games due to suspension. 120 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: He was also benched by Kevin O'Connell for the first 121 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: quarter of their game against the Cleveland Browns in London, Common. 122 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: Do you support the picking up of Jordan Addison's fifth 123 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: year option? 124 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. They're kind of stuck. I mean, 125 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: the kid does have talent. 126 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: He's shown. 127 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: He's showing the you know, he can play in the league. 128 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any question about that. But you know, 129 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: he's had the off field issues. How much money they 130 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: have to pay him. 131 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: They'll have to pay him. It's estimated eighteen million dollars 132 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty seven, which actually for wide receivers. Yeah, 133 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: for what he's produced, I mean, I mean Jalen Naylor's 134 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: making well, did you get like thirteen a year in Vegas. 135 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: Does he get that much? Maybe he did. I thought 136 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: it was in the eight Jalen Naylor is getting a 137 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: three year, thirty five million dollar deal. So if you 138 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: look at eighteen for one year for Jordan Nelson that's 139 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: after this year, that's still a pretty reasonable deal given 140 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: he's giving you a lot more production than Jalen Naylor. Yeah, 141 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: it's going right for NFL wide receivers, like very mediocre 142 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: wide receivers are getting that amount of money. So it's 143 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: it's it's the price of doing business. Yeah, I guess. 144 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: I mean he's he's got talent, he's a little inconsistent, 145 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: and then you know, having to service suspendschion and not 146 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: showing up for a The reason he got suspended for 147 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: that woman O'Connell suspend them, wasn't it because he didn't 148 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: show up at a practice in Yeah, in in like 149 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: a walk through or something. Yeah, So I don't know, 150 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: I don't I don't think they have much of a choice. 151 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: They don't have just one year commitment too. Yeah, that's 152 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: true too, And they don't have any other options right now, right, Yeah, 153 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: Jefferson and Addison and I don't know what else they 154 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: have there's not. 155 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: Much that basically, yeah, Ty Felton. 156 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, question number three, we could potentially see an all 157 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: Big Ten final in men's basketball. 158 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: A Big Ten team won the College football Playoff, and 159 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: the number one team in college baseball right now is 160 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: from the Big Ten. My question for you common has 161 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: the Big Ten surpassed the SEC as the best conference 162 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: in college sports? 163 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: Well? 164 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: When you have eighteen teams, yeah, it ain't the Big Ten, 165 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 2: it's the Big eighteen. Why don't we add another six 166 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: more clubs and we'll have the best conference in the 167 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: history of sports. 168 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: I think that has something to do with it. Does Oh, 169 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: it has a lot to do with it. Oh. Sure, 170 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: sounds like NIL has helped the Big Ten a lot too. 171 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely well, and and they have the best TV deal. 172 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: Well to Illinois, Michigan their original Big Tens. Right the 173 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: who's the top team in baseball? 174 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: I didn't see who, though I can find it out. 175 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: What was the other one? The national champion Indiana? And 176 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: so I guess we probably are, at least for the 177 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: time being. I mean that, oh, UCLA's number one. So yeah, okay, 178 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: former Pack ten for. 179 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: The Pac ten team, I I guess, I I guess, 180 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, I get just those numbers you just Scaveeduld 181 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 2: would lead you to believe. Now, in basketball, it wasn't 182 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: just well they have you know that. You know there 183 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: were two teams that just happened to get to you know, 184 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: Michigan State got to the Elite eight I think right, 185 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: Nebraska Si, Yeah, they had six. So basketball wise, they 186 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: certainly seem to be there. In football, Ohio State, in Indiana, 187 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: I mean, and then even Oregon. 188 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: Of course Oregon's not an original, but I would not 189 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: The UCLA women's basketball team is the number one. See 190 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: they're pretty good. I would say, go big eighteen. 191 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:11,479 Speaker 3: Question number three, it's time now for it's a full choice. 192 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: Which headline at NFL dot com intrigues you the most? 193 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: A Super Bowl champion Seahawks to start in hard knocks 194 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: training camp. B Cards had discussions about keeping Kyler believe 195 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: Jacoby fits in system see McVeigh says Rams winging Cousins 196 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: as backup, considered trading Adams or d. NFL announces Las 197 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: Vegas will be the host city for Super Bowl sixty 198 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: three and twenty twenty nine. What was the number one? 199 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: Is there your question? Which one you want me to 200 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: Which headline intrigues you the most. The first one Super 201 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: Bowl champion Seahawks to start in Hard Knocks training camp. 202 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: I've never watched Hard Knocks and it doesn't interest me, 203 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: So that would not uh the Cousins thing. I guess though, 204 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if any What was 205 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: number two? I think was B for me? 206 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: What was B? Again? He was cards had discussions about 207 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: keeping Kyler? Or is a Kyle? It's Kyle Murphy. Believe 208 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: Jacoby fits in system? Is that Jacoby or Jacob? 209 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: I think it's Jacob Brissette. Well, I sure they had discussions. Yeah, 210 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: I mean, and again, I'm sure they talked about it. 211 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: I wonder if we should keep him around. Now let's 212 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: not so they probably talked about it. So it's kind 213 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: of a slow headline day, But I would say, yeah, 214 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: that would be the one. Did they They just thought 215 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 2: Jacoby was a better fit. 216 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: For their system? Okay? But she did play out right 217 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: last year though they didn't really win with him as 218 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: their quarterback. But their offensive is okay once he took 219 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: over for the chunk of the season last Maybe. 220 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: What they ought to do is change their system. That's 221 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: what I would do. I don't think it's because I 222 00:11:54,640 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: just think Murphy has to me a higher ceiling. I think, yes, 223 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: set So I would if perseets a better fit for 224 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: your system, why don't you change your system? And we've 225 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: discussed that as well. We've got Murphy coming here. He's 226 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: he's a different style of quarterback, stylistically different than what 227 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: O'Connell has generally worked with. So do we are we 228 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: going to change Kyle Murphy or is O'Connor going to 229 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: have to adapt a little bit? I think it's easy 230 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 2: for a coach to adapt system than it is for 231 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: a player to completely change. I mean, I think you 232 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: could do a little of both. But I think a 233 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: coach has got to say, we have to play. Let's 234 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: play to the strength. 235 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: These coaches are too married to their systems. 236 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: That's right, I think too, you have to do a 237 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: let's play to the strength of what our player brings 238 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 2: to our table. If he's if he's an RPO guy, 239 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 2: he's better coming working under center, if he's better in 240 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: the shotgun, the pistol, whatever it is. 241 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: That's I would. I would try to tweak, not that 242 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: the player can't learn. 243 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: A few things and you know, adapt, maybe become better 244 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: at part of the game he hasn't excelled in. But 245 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: I still think it's more on the coach than the player. 246 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: And that's it for today's edition of five questions, Well 247 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: actually three questions, but five sounds like more than four. 248 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 2: You would else somebody I brought up Michigan and Wisconsin 249 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: are in the Frozen four. 250 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: That's right for hockey. So the Big. 251 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: Eighteen is the dominant conference in college sports. 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This is actually 264 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: an update of the original story headline. 265 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: DraftKings says it has used March Madness other terms for 266 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: five years in response to the NCAA complaint associated press rights. 267 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: DraftKings has been using March Madness an other familiar terms 268 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: to refer to the NCAA tournament for more than five 269 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: years and has the legal right to do so. 270 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: So. 271 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: The sportsbook set in a court filing Wednesday in response 272 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: to a complaint filed by the NCAA last Week's that 273 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: had been last Wednesday. NCAA is seeking an emergency temporary 274 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: restraining order to stop DraftKings from using registered trademarks associated 275 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: with its men's and women's basketball tournaments. The complaint for 276 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: trademark infringement, filed in the Southern District of Indiana, requests 277 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: that Raft draft Kings stop using March Madness, Final four, 278 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: Elite eight, and Sweet sixteen in variations of those terms 279 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: to promote its business. In its response, Draft Kings describe 280 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: those terms as the universally recognized names for the tournaments 281 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: and the rounds used by millions of college basketball fans, journalists, 282 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: and participants in the sports betting ecosystem. They are the 283 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: same words used by other online sportsbooks who have not 284 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: been singled out by the NCAA's fevered complaint, DraftKings said 285 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: the NCAA had asked for the restraining order based on 286 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: contrived and manufactured emergency. In it noted that the NCAA 287 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: is a commercial agreement with a company whose business is 288 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: providing in game data to sports books. The NCAA said 289 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: it actively avoids any appearance of affiliation with gambling, and 290 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: seid in the complaint that DraftKings use of the terms 291 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: confuses customers by. 292 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: Making it appear that the NCAA is on board. 293 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: DraftKings said it uses the terms and protect It said 294 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: it's use of the terms is protected unto the First Amendment. 295 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: Argue in the NCAA's trademark claim would fail on merits. 296 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: The company said to statements, no trademark gives any organization 297 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: the right to monopolize the language fans, players, journalists, and 298 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: sportsbooks use every day to accurately refer to college basketball tournaments. 299 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: And I guess that's why you hire attorneys and it 300 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: will have it to. 301 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: Day in court because I know there are people that 302 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: have asked me on occasion, why do you always refer 303 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: to the super Bowl as the Big Game? 304 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: It's because the super Bowl is a trademark name. 305 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: If you've ever noticed, like let's say this happens the 306 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: week leading up to the Big Game every year, where 307 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: like let's say, let's say Quick Trip is telling you 308 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: to stock up for the Big Game with soda pop 309 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: on special right now, get a twelve pack of Diet 310 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 2: Cokee for just blah blah blah. Get Tostito and Dorito 311 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: chips for just blah blah blah. That's why they say 312 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 2: Big Game. You cannot say. 313 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,239 Speaker 1: Super Bowl or you are using a trademark name. And 314 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: so for me, unless it's an NFL's affiliated sponsor, correct, 315 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: like we can't do we can same thing for like, 316 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: we can't say Minnesota Vikings in an ad that's correct. 317 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: We have to say the Purple unless it's a Viking sponsor. 318 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: That is absolutely positively correct. 319 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: So Draft Kings is now what the NCAA is saying there, 320 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: and and you kind of chuckle at it that well, 321 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: because you're DraftKings and you're trying to get people. It's 322 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: it's a betting site, right that you're trying to get 323 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: people to bet fantasy. 324 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: Daily Fantasy. You're trying to get. 325 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: People, well it might be partially betting. Now and you're 326 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: trying to get people to invest money on it. And 327 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: the NCAA said, we are acting like we're in cahoots 328 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 2: with you, which I guess. I guess you couldn't interpret 329 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 2: it that way. But I don't think they're saying in 330 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: conjunction with the NC Double A. I can understand why 331 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: they are trying to The NC Double A is trying 332 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 2: to protect what they have trademarked. 333 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: But they're right. 334 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: All sports writers we talk about it here. We say 335 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: March madness all the time. Hey, it's March madness. Are 336 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: we not supposed to say March madness? We say, you know, 337 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: final four a set for this weekend? 338 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: Am I am? 339 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 4: I not? 340 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 2: Were we just supposed to say the last four teams 341 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: in the NC DOUBLEA tournament are taking on? 342 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: Do we just call it? 343 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: You know? I guess you could call it silly sixteen, 344 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: as we do with preposterous statement tournament. 345 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: But I don't I do it in Spanish? Well, i'd 346 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: I would think you probably final quatra I don't know 347 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: what final is in Spanish. Yeah, I don't need quatrophy 348 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: now finale, let's go final A. I don't know, I 349 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't know who would win this. Do you remember? 350 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: Wasn't it who is the coach that three? Pete? Phil Jackson? 351 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 4: Phil? 352 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: Was that Jackson? 353 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: Or was it the other guy before Jackson who was 354 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 2: a longtime Lakers coach before Phil Jackson? 355 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: I thought Phil came up with it with the bulls, 356 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: but oh did he? Was it pat Riley? 357 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 4: Thing? 358 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: I think it was pat Riley. I don't think it's 359 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: Phil Jackson. I think it's pat Riley. And I think 360 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 2: it was about eight ten years ago. It was pat 361 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: Riley the eighty eight eighty nine Lakers. So again that 362 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: is he's he's trademarked that or patented it if. I 363 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: don't know if those are one and the same, but 364 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: apparently you can't, and I think you can say. I mean, 365 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 2: obviously I don't know what DraftKings. 366 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: Is trying to say. Is they say DraftKings. 367 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 2: Rebelose terms as universally recognized names for the tournaments and 368 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 2: the rounds used by millions of college basketball fans, journalists, 369 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: and participants in the sports betting ecosystem. They are the 370 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: same words used by other online sports books who have 371 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: not been singled out by the NCAA's fevered complaint. 372 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: That's like if if now you have to you have 373 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: to really use your imagination. 374 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 4: Here. 375 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 2: Let's say one of our local teams, the Wild, the Wolves, 376 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: the Twins and the Vikings were going for a third 377 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: World champions up in a row. Are we forbidden from 378 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 2: saying three pete? I don't think that would hold up 379 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: in court, would I mean? 380 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: If if I think it's the distinction of we can 381 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: say it in the course of the segment in the show, 382 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: but it's part of like an endorsement with a company 383 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: for an advertisement. I don't know if I could, Yeah, 384 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: maybe that's it, or like we couldn't sell T shirts 385 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: and say three pet on it correct? 386 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's exactly right. We're not 387 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: gonna have to worry about that here. I don't think 388 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: I'd like to just win one. It would be nice 389 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: just to get uno other than do three. But I 390 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: think that's that's the case. Someone says l Ultimo quattro 391 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 2: is the final four in Spanish? 392 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: Can I say that an ad? I, well, I all 393 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: ready for l ultimo quatro by going to quick trip. 394 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 2: I'm not a judge or an attorney, but I would say, 395 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 2: know that's still it doesn't matter what language it and 396 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 2: it still is what it is, but maybe you could. 397 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a good question. 398 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: This one says people have always thought the NCAA trademarks 399 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 2: and copyrights on those phrases has been kind of flimsy. 400 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: But since there's such a big organization, no one's really 401 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: had the lawyers to fight them on it. But now 402 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: they've run up against Draft Kings, which is also a 403 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: huge organization, and they do have the lawyers to fight 404 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: it out. So that should be quite the battle in 405 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 2: the future to see how that shakes out, and it 406 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: will be interesting because that's why I I've always I've 407 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 2: done the bit where and I really don't care. 408 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: But I just like to pretend. 409 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: Outrage that, oh you want me to call it the 410 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: super Bowl when we're promoting your event on the air. 411 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 2: But if I want to sell some diet coke and 412 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: chips for a fast for a convenience store, you're saying, 413 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 2: how dare you call it the super Bowl? But then 414 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: I can understand their point of view. I'm using something 415 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: they've trademarked to sell something. I'm profiting off something they've 416 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 2: put a trademark on, right, so. 417 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: You'd be making more money off of them, and they'd 418 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: be making off of them and there them. 419 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 2: That's exactly right or something to that extent, so I 420 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: can understand, but. 421 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: It would be. 422 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: This one says, is the legendary one trademark. Not sure 423 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: what else you could call? 424 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: Rosie there you godfather? Is is trademark. So there you go. 425 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: But it's a it is controversial. 426 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: Let's let's pause, come back, we'll tap dance through the 427 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 2: next segment, and then we'll welcome the legendary one into 428 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: the program. 429 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: Here in the fan. 430 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 2: A couple thirteen fourteen fast, I'm common he is tenab 431 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: I forgot to mention, by the. 432 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Way, after five three four. The five three four was. 433 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: Brought to you by the Willow River Company and the 434 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: Willow River Experience. 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Adam Silver complicates matters 445 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: while Jazz pull off a season defining loss, it says. 446 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: Last week, Adam Silver insisted that we're going to fix 447 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: it full stop talking about tanking and promise at beginning 448 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 2: next season the incentives regarding tanking will be completely different 449 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: than they are now. As part of that pledge, the 450 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: league submitted three proposals during the last week's Board of 451 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: Governor's meeting. Adopting any of the following changes will require 452 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: twenty three of thirty teams to vote in favor. Here's 453 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: number one, Tennebee Expanding to an eighteen team lottery by 454 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: including the play and losers in both conferences flat odds 455 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: of eight percent for the teams with the ten worst records, 456 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: every pick would be selected in the lottery instead of 457 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 2: only the top four makes sense. Expanding to an eighteen 458 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: team lottery by including the play and losers in conferences 459 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 2: flat odds of eight percent for the teams with the 460 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: ten worst records. So instead of having it where the 461 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: worshier record is the better your oddsite Yes, ping pong walls. 462 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: Number two would be expanding to a twenty two team 463 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: lottery by including play and losers in both conferences and 464 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: teams that lose in the first round. 465 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: Of the playoffs. 466 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: Lottery order would be determined by the organization's overall record 467 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: over a two year period. In this model, adopted from 468 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: the format currently used in the WNBA, a minimum win 469 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: total would be established. For example, if the win total 470 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: floor is twenty five, and a team wins twenty, it 471 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: is credited with twenty five victories. In this format, only 472 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: the top four picks would be selected in the lottery. 473 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: I'm not even sure how that would work, but I'll 474 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 2: leave that. 475 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: To sounds complicated. Yeah, it sounds complicated to me, and 476 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: maybe it's not. As a wild fan, I wish over 477 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: the last fifteen years they would have included first round 478 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: losers in the lottery. Let me give you a little 479 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: bit of a hold on. I give you a little 480 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: bit of a shot there. 481 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 2: At number three, what the league is calling a five 482 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: y five system five times five, the lottery would be 483 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: expanded to eighteen teams by including the play and losers 484 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: in both conferences, the five teams with the worst records 485 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: would have equal odds at the top pick, with the 486 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: lottery determining the first five picks. The five worst teams 487 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 2: would pick no lower than tenth. Teams that fall out 488 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 2: of the top five would be entered into a second 489 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 2: lottery to determine the remaining thirteen picks. Multiple lotteries, Multiple lotteries. 490 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 2: Story goes on to say, of course, there was a 491 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: simpler solution, the simple simpler solution, which was also. 492 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: Floated along with the three or four mentioned options. 493 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: Under the new rules, if a team is deemed to 494 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 2: be tanking by the commissioner, siler would have the power 495 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: to move that franchise is pick to the end of 496 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: the lottery or the first round, take it away entirely, 497 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: and or find that organization millions of dollars. According to 498 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: the athletic, that's what they say that other proposal would be. 499 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: If that's the case, why are there other proposals even necessary? 500 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: Couldn't silver in the. 501 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: League officers eyeball the tanking teams and meet out whatever 502 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: justice they deem necessary. Well, it goes on to say 503 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 2: that it is playing with a lot of power for 504 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 2: the commissioner wield, and it would likely result in backlash 505 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: from teams suggested to that kind of arbitrary discipline. My 506 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: guess is the commission probably wouldn't want to be the 507 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: tanking punishment zar and would instead refer to adopting new 508 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: anti tanking measures as the primary line of defense. I 509 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: think that is too much power to give the commissioner. 510 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: I don't think you can just say it kind of 511 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: looks like you're tanking to me. I mean, we all 512 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: can kind of see it. But then to determine which 513 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: team is trying to tank more than the other team, 514 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: which tank team is tanked more than the other tanking team? 515 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: This text messenger rights it should be. 516 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: All first round losers going to the small lottery, and 517 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: they all have an equal shot at the first overall pick, 518 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: meaning that everyone should want to get into the first 519 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: round of the playoffs no matter what. No, that's not 520 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: I don't know what I've just read there, if any 521 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: of those are similar what he's saying. What he is 522 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: saying is that if you're in the first round of 523 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: the playoffs and you lose, you have an equal shot 524 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: at the first overall pick. Meaning let's say let's say 525 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: the Wolves get in, and let's say they lose in 526 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 2: the first round, well, they're still in an opportunity. I 527 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: guess they're trying to get those seven eighteen, you know, 528 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: the teams that are finishing. 529 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 530 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense though, does it, Because if 531 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: if you are a bit let's say you're a bad 532 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: team to begin with, you're not very good. I mean, 533 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: there are teams that are going to finish last regardless 534 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: if they're trying or not right, and so if you're 535 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: a bad team and you can't make the playoffs, and 536 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: no matter how hard you try, I still think you've 537 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: got to have a better opportunity to get at a 538 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: better draft pick, don't you. I mean, I guess the 539 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: only real way to do it to make it equal, 540 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: even if you win the NBA championship, if they draw 541 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: your name out, you get the first pick overall, which 542 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: would seem counterproductive. You already have a really good team 543 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: and I are going to get the best player, But 544 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: that'd be that's the only way you can prevent I think, 545 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: completely prevent tanking, right. 546 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of like the idea of all 547 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: your teams have missed the postseason, and then the teams 548 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: that lose in the play in game, right, So how 549 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: many of our teams that would be would be fourteen 550 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: for now, and then I guess sixteen if they expand 551 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: of those teams all having an equal chance at the 552 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: number one pick. Now, you're still going to have teams 553 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: that at the end of the year, they know they're 554 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: out of it and they're not going to be giving 555 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: it they're all, but they would necessarily be tanking. Yeah, 556 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: I tend to I think that might be the best way. 557 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: I mean, it's sad that we have to even have 558 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: to discuss it, but as we've talked about it, as 559 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: we've talked about you know, we we brought up what 560 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: Mark Cuban said not long ago, a former owner of 561 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks, where he said he actually doesn't think 562 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: there's anything wrong with tanking in particularly because here's here's 563 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: the sticky wicked. 564 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: I think we talk about. 565 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 2: Load management all the time, right, you know, and how 566 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: certain players are allowed, especially like let's say tenneb Let's 567 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: say the Thunderer coming to town to play somewhere, right, 568 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: and the thunder might use that away game to give 569 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: SGA a break and two or three other starters right 570 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: that they just say, you know, we're gonna we're they're 571 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: going to be off that game. 572 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: We're giving them load management. 573 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: And then you go, well, that's not fair to the 574 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: to the ticket buyers of whatever city that they're you know, 575 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: let's say it's Memphis, because Memphis. 576 00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: Might want to watch. That's why they went. 577 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: They wanted to see SGA, they want to see home grown, 578 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: they want to see the best players in the world 579 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: play and they can't, and so we're all against that, right. 580 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: What Cuban was saying, though, is the. 581 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: The discerning fan realizes that we need We're not very good. 582 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: We're missing it. 583 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: We don't have a franchise type player. We don't have 584 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: a Wimbin Yama. We don't have a Don do we 585 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: call him Don Sitch or Doncic today? Which do you 586 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: want to call him? We don't have him. We don't 587 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: have an Anthony Edwards. We don't have somebody who is 588 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: a you know, franchise player. So if you're a fan 589 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: of the team and you want to see you get, 590 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: then you, I guess you don't mind tanking, right, don't 591 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: you sort of support it? 592 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: You go, we need to get like I don't. 593 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 4: I don't. 594 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: Let's say I don't know which player in college basketball 595 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: considered the top overall pick. I know the the Boozer 596 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: kid who had the for Duke is considered a high 597 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: end player. There are a number of kids that are 598 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 2: considered pretty good players. Now are they franchise players? 599 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's well, let's even go back to 600 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: the Cooper Fly kid. 601 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: Right from last year he's turned out, he's considered a 602 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 2: franchise changing player. 603 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: The last ESPN mock draft from about twenty days ago, 604 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: Darren Peterson from Kansas. Okay, this was expected to be 605 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: number one. 606 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if he's considered a franchise player, 607 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 2: just the best player of three. Okay, let's go back 608 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: to Cooper Fly. Cooper Flag is considered by everybody to 609 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: be a franchised and he's so far the way he's played, 610 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: he has been not last night, not last night, but overall, 611 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: he's been considered I can't miss kind of a player. 612 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: If you're in a city with a terrible team, terrible. 613 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: Fans, terrible stadium, everything about just terrible, and you know 614 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: that kid's going to be available, do you really care 615 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 2: about winning an extra half a dozen games, meaningless games 616 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 2: because your team's just not any good tanking or not, 617 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: they're just not very good. If that's going to decrease 618 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: your chances of getting a franchise player, I gotta admit 619 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: I'm all for tanking at that point, are you not? 620 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: Or or do you say no, that's still not in 621 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: the spirit of the game. And even then it's not 622 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 2: a guarantee. Well, and it's not a guarantee, right or 623 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,479 Speaker 2: do you say no in the spirit of the game. 624 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 2: You know, you're always trying to win no matter what. 625 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 2: You're a tryhard, you're a sweaty no matter what, no 626 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: matter where your team is. It goes back to when 627 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: when Musselman was coaching the Wolves, he was trying to 628 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: win game. There was a couple of times, or at 629 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 2: least one year for sure, where they won I don't know, 630 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: six seven games at the end of the year that 631 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: prevented them from being getting the top pick overall or 632 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: more a lot I don't know if they were doing 633 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 2: the lottery then. 634 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: But my point is, so we don't want play to. 635 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 2: Tang or to to load manage, which I've been I've 636 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: been a fan of being anti load management. 637 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: But let's say you're a fan of. 638 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 2: Oklahoma City thunder and you think, you know what, we're 639 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: getting ready for the playoffs here, It's been a long season. 640 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City really has nothing to play now? 641 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: Are they still clear enough of san Antonio or san 642 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: Antonio still on their heels regardless? Last time I saw 643 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 2: they were like two three years Okay, So then then there, 644 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: I guess there was still still reason to win games. 645 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 2: But if you don't half back and then well then again, 646 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 2: maybe this makes it a mute point. 647 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 1: But you see, you see what I'm getting at right? 648 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 2: You could be I'm not a big fan of load 649 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 2: management because I think you are cheating. Fans have seen 650 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 2: the best players you know, all sitting. You're putting your 651 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 2: B team out there, your JV team, And what why 652 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 2: do I want to go to that game? Why do 653 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 2: I want to spend any time investing in that ball game? 654 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: That's a waste of time and money I want to see. 655 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: I talked about how I went just in the waning 656 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: h in Kobe Bryant's last season, he didn't play, took 657 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 2: the kids into the game to go watch. Kobe Bryant 658 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 2: didn't play, nursing a knee injury or something. He could 659 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 2: have come out and played a couple of minutes, but 660 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 2: they're not going to do that. So I'm anti load management, 661 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 2: but I got to admit Tenneby. 662 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: For my own team, I'm all four tanking exactly. If 663 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: I'm Adam Silver, I'm not for right. I think the 664 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: problem is is we used to have like a team 665 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: or two tank, and now it seems like there's a 666 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: handful that are tanking becoming more prevalent. 667 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 2: This one says, I think the lottery kind of prevents 668 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: teams from tanking to get number one overall player because 669 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 2: even then gets cut up for grabs. Well, yeah, that's 670 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 2: why they established the the lottery in the first place. 671 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 2: That was the original fix for tanking teams. 672 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: Yep. 673 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 2: Well, and then there's those that, Okay, Dallas makes the 674 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: trade for for Donsik to the Lakers. Everybody is going, 675 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: why would they do that? The general manager end up 676 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 2: getting fired for right, he was nominated for a preposterous 677 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 2: statement for his explanation. Well then Dallas, magically their name 678 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: gets pulled out in the lottery and they had like 679 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 2: a one point two percent chance of being the number 680 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 2: one pick overall. There are those that say, well, we'll 681 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 2: wait a minute, in an effort. I mean, Dallas fans 682 00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 2: are still angry to this day, sure and rightfully so, 683 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 2: so in order to try to playkate them, there are 684 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 2: those that would suggest, well, that lottery was rigged so 685 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 2: that Dallas could get the number one pick and get 686 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 2: Cooper Flag. So at least Cooper Flag hasn't accomplished what 687 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 2: Donsik has yet and may never accomplish that. But at 688 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 2: least you're saying, hey, we're gonna give you this. We're 689 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 2: gonna give Dallas fans this. We're gonna give you the 690 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: number one overall pick so that you don't boycott the 691 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 2: team and be bitter. You know, it's bad pr for 692 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 2: the team, for the league, right and so I don't 693 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 2: you know, there are those I mean, you go back 694 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 2: even further. Was it Orlando that had the number one 695 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 2: picked back to back years and got shack in penny? 696 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 2: And there were those that said, I'll wait a minute, 697 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 2: how does that happen? There are those that still suspend them. 698 00:38:53,000 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I think they did so on the Cooper Flag. 699 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 2: With Dallas getting the number one pick when they had 700 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 2: very low odds in Orlando. Tenneby, you've solved a couple 701 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 2: of yesterday you solved the the case of the uh 702 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 2: of the missing microwave. Maybe you could take a deep 703 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 2: dive on the Anthony Hardaway shack, Deeselan Neil and the 704 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 2: Cooper five. 705 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: Think maybe you could get to the bottom of that. 706 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: You were able to do it with the microwave yesterday, 707 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: you were able to do with the case of the 708 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 2: disappearing pro v ones. You got to the bottom of 709 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 2: two different cases. 710 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: You're two and zero. How about the year Lebron number 711 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: one overall just as hometown team. Yes, there's another wave. 712 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,720 Speaker 1: How did that in Cleveland? 713 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 2: Was a terrible team in a terrible city with terrible 714 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 2: fans in terrible statement, Did they eventually win. 715 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: One with Lebron and they did second time? Or second time? Yeah? 716 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 2: Because he left there, went to Miami and then came 717 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 2: he was going to take his talents to Miami on 718 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 2: the on the big announcement on they had on. 719 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: ESPN number or wherever it was. 720 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 2: This one says, if you're pulling three starters, you have 721 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: to discount tickets. Accordingly, you could make that argument, sir, 722 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 2: and again as much as I well, for instance, now 723 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,919 Speaker 2: how about this now again it's slightly different, but last year, 724 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 2: the Packers Week eighteen against the soon to be a 725 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 2: Big Game world champion Minnesota Vikings rested a bunch of 726 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 2: their starters. Everybody looks the other way on that. They 727 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 2: just say, well, yeah, you got to get ready for 728 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 2: the playoffs. You have to make sure your guys are healthy. 729 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 2: We have nothing to gain from this, so why would 730 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 2: we play our players. Everybody just goes, well, that's just 731 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 2: the way it works. Nobody's up in arms about that. Yet, 732 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 2: if they decide to give Victor wembin Yama the night 733 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 2: off or somebody for a load management, people are how 734 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 2: dare you do that? 735 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 4: Now? 736 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,439 Speaker 2: It's different, but it's not. You're trying to protect the guy, 737 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 2: keep them healthy, load manage them. 738 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: There are that. 739 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 2: Say, you know, and we know Jordan played all eighty 740 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 2: two games and played every series of the NBA Finals, 741 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 2: never took a night off. I get that, But then 742 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 2: that's Michael Jordan. That's not everybody. So if you're making 743 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 2: the argument that what for instance, tenne Peple, we talked 744 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 2: about this with the wild, are you okay with Like 745 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: if let's say Hughes is Tucker, Let's say Quinnesota is Tucker. Yeah, 746 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 2: let's say Caprice offs Tucker, let's say Fate, Let's say bowldy. 747 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 2: All these guys are tuckered because our playoff position he 748 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 2: can't change. Are you okay with giving those guys some 749 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 2: rest here before we start what we hope will be 750 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 2: a four playoff series run. 751 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: To a family? Quin Hughes, I definitely would, okay, I'd 752 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 1: give them a game. Well now that they got four 753 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: days off right now, so like hopefully they're when they 754 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: go play Vancouver Thursday night, they're a little bit more arrested. 755 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: But if he's still showing some ill effects, yeah, I'd 756 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: give a day or two off. 757 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 2: But what if they were going to play an Auto one. 758 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 2: People want to watch Quinn Hughes and Auto you I 759 00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: want to take. I want to see Quinn Hughes. 760 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: Play to worry about the posseason. 761 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 2: Well so then, so then sure shouldn't that be blanket 762 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 2: for everybody, for load management, for every sport, for tanking, 763 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 2: for everything. 764 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,959 Speaker 1: I want my team to tank. 765 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: If we're a terrible team and I got a chance 766 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: to get the next victor women Yama, I want them 767 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 2: to tank. That's why Cuban said, embrace the tanking. It's controversial. 768 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 2: I know, nobody else. 769 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: Would dare tackle this topic. Here's a noe. 770 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 2: Chicago Bulls had a one point seven percent chance and 771 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 2: landed the first pick for hometown kid. 772 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: Derreck Rose, part of the Fab five. Yes, Derek Rose. 773 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 2: Here's another nineteen eighty five the frozen envelope first year 774 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: of the lottery that sent Patrick. 775 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:42,760 Speaker 1: Ewing too the Knicks. 776 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 2: Remember they said the envelope was frozen so when he 777 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 2: would pick it up, he would know which one to select. 778 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 1: That was another controversy. 779 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 2: Then there's this talk about tanking, there's no show prep, 780 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 2: and then there's this well, yeah, I really don't care 781 00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 2: about any of this. 782 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 1: I was desperate to for a segment. 783 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 2: So during the last break I was scanning through CBS 784 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 2: Sports and I saw the tanking. 785 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: Still the show is pro tanking. This we do it 786 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 1: every day. 787 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 2: We do it every single day. So this one says, 788 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 2: I know you're a stickler. 789 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: For being accurate. 790 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 2: The Alne of Magic drafted Shack in ninety two, Chris 791 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 2: Webber in ninety three, but traded Weber for Petty Hardaway, 792 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 2: who was the third pick. Okay, I didn't is that true. 793 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure it is, and I you know what, I 794 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 2: didn't know that was a ninety two or ninety three. 795 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 2: I thought that was eight or ten years ago. See 796 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 2: that's how bad I am, because I've got is it 797 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 2: time blindness? Is that what we've decided I have? I 798 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 2: have time blindness along with African sleeping sickness and a 799 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 2: flesh eating bacteria and an elevated scrown. So I have 800 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 2: all those things going against me right now. So those 801 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 2: are those are issues that I'm gonna have to deal 802 00:43:55,520 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 2: with and come to grips with and not anybody else. Well, 803 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 2: and then there's this, there's a way to solve the 804 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 2: tanking problem. Relegation. The bottom four teams in the NBA 805 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 2: get relegated to college conferences for a team too. Well, 806 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 2: they do that in soccer, yes, in Europe, right that 807 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 2: if you're a terrible team, you get bounced down to 808 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 2: like triple A. 809 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: Oh, we won't have a baseball team right now. 810 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 2: Then I'll give you this, and ah, no one would 811 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 2: care if they got relegated. 812 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: It might actually make them spend some money to try 813 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: to get back up. 814 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 2: Anyway, we're gonna be a good team and we're gonna 815 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 2: either all figured out. So there you go to tank 816 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 2: or not to tank. 817 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if there's a relegation. I 818 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: wish there was a way to, like, you know, like 819 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: in a fantasy football league, right, you have teams that 820 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: advance in the playoffs, and then you have like a 821 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,479 Speaker 1: toilet bowl. Yeah, where the worst teams play each other, 822 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: and there's some sort of punishment. If there's a way 823 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: to like punish teams for being really really bad to 824 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 1: have some sort of toilet bowl tournament at the end, well, 825 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: they call it the n right now, Dbaska, Well we 826 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,439 Speaker 1: can't even make that. Yeah, I guess we're not even 827 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: capable of making that. 828 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of people have a lot 829 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 2: of solutions for for for tanking. 830 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if any of them will work. We'll 831 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: take a break, we'll come back. 832 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 2: The legendary one Mark Frozen joined us next comment Man 833 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 2: program on the Fan