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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pikes sin see three sixty about Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: from Cincinnati spontered in part by Skyline Chili. Stop by

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Speaker 1: Skyline Chili for a three way or cheese Tony today

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Speaker 1: feeling good? It's Skyline time. This is ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Tony, Hey there, Tony, guess what Tony?

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Speaker 3: It's your birthday.

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Speaker 4: Let's go that.

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Speaker 2: You knew that, Tony. Of course you knew that.

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Speaker 3: Just saye, I forget about it.

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Speaker 2: Birthday, Tony, Yes, lots and lots of cake.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, lots and lots of presents.

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Speaker 2: NDS birthday half half half half beg birthday, Tony, Tony.

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Speaker 3: It's your birthday half birthday, Tony. It's a birthday. And

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Speaker 3: right here and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah wowth Tony.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, thank you, candles, my brother, Cake and candles.

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Speaker 3: Is what today is is for forty of them things.

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Speaker 3: Man forty hits different. Man forty that's the same amount

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Speaker 3: of millions that Brian Cook got yesterday. That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, god, Lee, you're getting old. Yeah, forty forty

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Speaker 3: hits different. Bones start hurting more than everything. You struggle

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Speaker 3: getting out of bed at all. Everything started hurting today.

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Speaker 3: How many gray hairs do you have? Because pretty good hair? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: five or six. I see coming in on a lot

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Speaker 3: more of that than you. I see him coming in

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Speaker 3: on the side. But man, you feel about that, you know?

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Speaker 4: I do?

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Speaker 3: I feel like you'd be pretty good with silver fox. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I kind of like.

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Speaker 5: I think there's a sense of I don't know, professionalism

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Speaker 5: that comes with it, dignity with a little salt and

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Speaker 5: pepper mixed in there.

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Speaker 3: Come on now, so well, Happy birthday, man, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I purposely didn't tell you Happy birthday this morning because

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Speaker 3: I wanted to do it right now on the air

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Speaker 3: when you can't see me, but you can.

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Speaker 5: Hear me, man, And I mean our group there that

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Speaker 5: that is always nice enough to cut us a rendition

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Speaker 5: of happy birthday. Yes, just always always nice with their time.

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Speaker 3: It's no place I'd rather be right here than to

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Speaker 3: get to talk for three hours about what's going on

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Speaker 3: here locally in sports. And then is if that's not

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Speaker 3: enough of a gift, I get to watch the Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Bearcats play one more guaranteed basketball game today. Wow, tomorrow

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Speaker 3: is not promised. Today is so well said Bearcats and

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Speaker 3: the utes three o'clock this afternoon, the same time the

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Speaker 3: Mowagger showill be going on. I don't know how MO

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Speaker 3: will do it today because I would struggle doing that

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Speaker 3: at the same time. Now, I don't know if Tarren

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Speaker 3: has cleared this with Mo, but Arren said yesterday he's

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Speaker 3: gonna stream the whole show. It would be genius. Now,

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Speaker 3: we've put together highlight tapes in the past, yes, and

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Speaker 3: I believe we've had to bleep some of the things

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Speaker 3: that Moe says. Sure, I would imagine Tarran is gonna

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Speaker 3: you'll be able to see Mo's reaction. You probably won't

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Speaker 3: be able to hear it, probably best, probably best looking

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Speaker 3: forward to that as Moe returns from Arizona with a

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Speaker 3: lot of a lot of a lot of stuff still

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Speaker 3: in front of the Bearcats. Yeah, they are set to

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Speaker 3: play Utah today. If they win that, they would play

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Speaker 3: UCF tomorrow at the same time, three o'clock, and then

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Speaker 3: the winner of that will take on the number one

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Speaker 3: seed Arizona Wildcats on on Thursday, if it were to

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Speaker 3: get to that point. So that's where things are for

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bearcats right now. A lot of other college

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Speaker 3: basketball happening. Unfortunately, Austin last night was the final game

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Speaker 3: of the season for Darren Horn's Northern Kentucky Norse. Or

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Speaker 3: can't we like go to the Crown or something? Sure?

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, final game of this of the regular of

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Speaker 3: What regular season? Yeah, twenty and fourteen, yep, like a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a disappointing year. I agree for k

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Speaker 3: I agree, kind of got their face bashed in. They

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Speaker 3: did have some injuries, but every team has injuries. And

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Speaker 3: you know, I'll tell you, I'm like these FC Cincinnati fans,

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to grow impatiently, right, three years low, since

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Speaker 3: we've been back to the tournament three years. Speaking of

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Speaker 3: which I saw yesterday some FC Cincinnati fans just given

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Speaker 3: the business to Pat Noonan. Even saw a little bit

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Speaker 3: blamed himself, which, okay, that's fair. Lack of offensive creativity, Okay,

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Speaker 3: if you are still on the outskirts of the bubble

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Speaker 3: watching for college basketball and the University of Cincinnati bearcatch,

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Speaker 3: you would root for Pittsburgh over Stanford today, and you

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Speaker 3: would want the wake Forest demon Deakins to beat Virginia

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Speaker 3: Tech today in the ACC tournaments. That is just something

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Speaker 3: to keep in mind. We've got a lot to get

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Speaker 3: to today. Day one of legal tampering and the period

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Speaker 3: go well for the Cincinnati Bengals. I would say that

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Speaker 3: from the moment we got off the air until the

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Speaker 3: day ended, it was a red resounding success, I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you for the Bengals. The way that you and Chad

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Speaker 3: Brindle were reacting yesterday as we got off the air,

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Speaker 3: you would have thought that the Bengals had closed up

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Speaker 3: they did for a week. And I tried to tell you,

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Speaker 3: pump the brakes the Bengals are going to sign somebody,

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Speaker 3: and they ended up signing two guys. Two guys many

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Speaker 3: Cook and boy A Mafe. The Bengals are better right

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Speaker 3: now than they were yesterday. Yes at this time yesterday,

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Speaker 3: now they were. I felt like one Devin Lloyd move

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Speaker 3: was rumored, you know, Panthers are in the mix. The

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Speaker 3: Bengals are in the mix. Devin Lloyd, the linebacker from

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Speaker 3: a three year, forty five million dollar deal. So what

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Speaker 3: fill in the blank. Yesterday for the Bengals was what

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Speaker 3: because I think it was a resounding success based on

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Speaker 3: what this team needed, what they had available to spend,

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Speaker 3: and where this team sits today compared to where they

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Speaker 3: did yesterday. Now, is there work still to be done,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely without a doubt. But yesterday, just as moving on

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Speaker 3: have strung some positives together over the course of this offseason.

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Speaker 3: So we'll recap yesterday and then we'll look ahead to today.

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Speaker 3: the players that are still available on the market that

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Speaker 3: that won't make sense for the Cincinnati Bengals Austin is

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Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson. And right now it would appear that Trey

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Speaker 3: Hendrickson's not making sense for a lot of teams across

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Speaker 3: lot of people in this fan base have propped him

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Speaker 3: up to be. He's not a good run defender, he's

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Speaker 3: come in bunches against backup players. Yeah, he was a

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Speaker 3: good player, a really good player for a couple of

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Speaker 3: play teams beyond just the Bengals, that he's not worth

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Speaker 3: that thirty thirty five forty million dollars that he wants,

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Speaker 3: especially as a thirty two year old coming off of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be interest to see what happens with Trey

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Speaker 5: Hendrickson today, if anything, and I think it it'd be

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Speaker 5: good Austin to kind of look across the AFC North today.

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Speaker 5: A lot of talk has been made about what the

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Speaker 5: But we'll talk about the Browns, the Ravens, and the

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Speaker 3: We'll get to all of that today.

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Speaker 5: We have sixteen days until Red's opening day, and with

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Speaker 5: the news that we're going to get to in just

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Speaker 5: a moment, there are questions that need to be answered

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Speaker 5: about this team. We'll talk about those questions. And the

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Speaker 5: news of the day is the news of one Hunter

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Speaker 5: Green Austin. It is expected in being reported now by

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Speaker 5: multiple folks. I would push to Charlie Goldsmith as he's

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Speaker 5: our guy who's got this covered from start to finish.

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Speaker 5: But we are being told right now that Hunter Green

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Speaker 5: has bone chips and loose bodies. He's getting that scoped tomorrow,

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Speaker 5: and that fourteen to sixteen weeks looks to be the timeline.

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Speaker 5: Fourteen to sixteen weeks Austin, that would be what July.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would it would be early July. I think

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Speaker 3: sixteen weeks from now is June thirtieth. So I was

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Speaker 3: Reds have to win that division and division's not going

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Speaker 3: to be easy. Well, eighteen weeks from right now is

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Speaker 3: the MLB All Star Game on July fourteenth. Okay, that's

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Speaker 3: giving Hunter Green an extra two weeks from whenever things

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Speaker 3: at Wednesday tomorrow when he gets this surgery, until the

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Speaker 3: timeline that the Reds have established. In that eighteen weeks,

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Speaker 3: the Reds played twenty nine National League Central games, nine

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Speaker 3: he will basically miss twenty starts. If you take the

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Speaker 3: fourteen weeks following that, which would be the sixteen week timeline,

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Speaker 3: that's roughly twenty starts for Hunter Green.

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Speaker 5: You know what, We're gonna spend a lot of time

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Speaker 5: on this today because there was a quote from Charlie's

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Speaker 5: last year. He said, Hunter never told me directly any

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Speaker 5: of it. He mentioned it to Derek Johnson. He was

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Speaker 5: he was pitching. The trainers were never going to send

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Speaker 5: someone out there if they shouldn't pitch or play. Ever,

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Speaker 5: it's hard sometimes if everyone you'd never have a team.

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Speaker 5: You can't see inside people's bodies, it can be a

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Speaker 5: little difficult. And then it was reported today Austin that

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Speaker 5: late in October Hunter Green met with doctor Neil Latrosh,

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Speaker 5: who recommended a PRP injection. Now it's Neil Olatrosh that's

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Speaker 5: now doing the surgery.

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Speaker 3: We finally found out the details. We knew he got

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Speaker 3: an injection yea in October, but how that went about

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Speaker 3: know what the injection was or how they got to

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Speaker 3: that point exactly. Charlie provided some details that Elatrosh consulted

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Speaker 3: as big of an upgrade as you're going to find

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Speaker 3: in free agency.

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Speaker 5: You add both of the players, and you also get

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Speaker 5: Austin what I think is unique for this team, a

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Speaker 5: twenty seven year old in Mafay and a twenty six

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Speaker 5: year old and Brian Cook, two guys that are you

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Speaker 5: could argue, Cook, who comes off his best year as

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Speaker 5: a pro, now enters the prime of his career with

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Speaker 5: the Cincinnati Bengals. If if you were judging this at

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Speaker 5: Audielmore at Tony Underscore Pike fifteen, leave us a talk

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Speaker 5: back here in our number two. We'll talk to Joe

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Speaker 5: Danam at the top of our number two. But in

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Speaker 5: any setting, let us know how you grate out the

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati Bengals for what they did yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Sheer grade wise, Austin, what do you give them? B? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I give him a bee. I think it's a solid B. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think somebody got Lloyd last night.

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Speaker 4: Cool?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I went back this morning and read

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Speaker 3: Paul Daanner Junior's like free agency projections, his predictions, and

453
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Speaker 3: he wrote Brian Cook as an honorable mention because he's

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Speaker 3: like good player, he'll be too expensive. Well, the Bengals

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Speaker 3: pointed up the money eighteen million in year number one.

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Speaker 3: There are some reports out there saying that boy A

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Speaker 3: Mafe is going to get close to twenty million in

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Speaker 3: his first year, which is cash over cap. The way

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Speaker 3: I look at it, right now, the Bengals are about

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Speaker 3: a four hundred or two hundred and fifty million dollars

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Speaker 3: in cap spent so far, and that could get up

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Speaker 3: to another three thirty three twenty all together, especially when

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Speaker 3: you consider linebackers still going to be addressed, defensive line

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Speaker 3: probably still going to be addressed, offensive line probably still

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Speaker 3: going to be addressed, and potential extensions to people like

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Speaker 3: DJ Turner, Dak sil Chase Brown and otherwise. So, and

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Speaker 3: even if they restructure the Borough contract, you would add

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Speaker 3: to that number of cash spent, so you still have

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Speaker 3: space with the cap. And they haven't made any cuts yet,

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Speaker 3: so Orrin Burke's could be cut. TJ. Slayton could be cut,

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Speaker 3: Cody Ford could be cut, and that would open up

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Speaker 3: another ten million dollars or so for the Bengals to

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Speaker 3: get some stuff done. So they still have a lot

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Speaker 3: of flexibility. They still have the ability to fix a

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Speaker 3: lot of the things that they need to fix. And

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Speaker 3: just because they've signed two guys at a pretty decent

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Speaker 3: amount of money, they've structured those contracts, excuse me, in

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Speaker 3: a way that still provides them the ability to keep

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Speaker 3: signing guys. They don't have to quit after two. I

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Speaker 3: give our guy Dan Horde credit. On February twelfth, in

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Speaker 3: the Bengals Booth podcast, he named two players Brian Cook,

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Speaker 3: Boye Mafe.

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Speaker 5: You know my two players he wanted to get. He

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Speaker 5: tweeted out yesterday that he strained his rotator cuff, patting

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Speaker 5: himself on the back.

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Speaker 3: Our buddy, Ricky Chino told me this morning that he

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Speaker 3: was back in the day he was doing something with

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Speaker 3: Dan Horne and Dan Hord and Dan said before the draft,

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Speaker 3: watch out for Giovanni Bernard, and the Bengals went and

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Speaker 3: drafted Giovanni Bernard. So I think the Hall of Famer

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Speaker 3: knows what he's talking about. Comes to the Bengals and

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Speaker 3: the guys that they I in free agency. One more

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Speaker 3: stat here for for you on Boye Mafe last year

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Speaker 3: in terms of Bengals defensive linemen and their pressure rates. TJ.

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Speaker 3: Slayton just six point five percent, BJ Hill just six

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Speaker 3: point nine percent, Shamar Stewart eight point eight percent. Miles

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Speaker 3: Murphy led the team at eleven point three percent. Boy

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Speaker 3: A Mafe last year did it in a thirteen point

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Speaker 3: two percent clip, So he's already coming in as the

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Speaker 3: highest pressure percentage on the Bengals roster at the moment.

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Speaker 3: He's also the only current Bengal to generate five or

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Speaker 3: more pressures with an average time to pressure quicker than

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Speaker 3: three seconds last season. So you got one guy on

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Speaker 3: one end at eleven percent, another guy on the other

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Speaker 3: end at thirteen percent. I think you can mix and match,

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Speaker 3: maybe Shamar Stewart on the inside, maybe BJ Hill on

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Speaker 3: the inside. However you want to do it. Yep, you

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Speaker 3: automatically get your defensive line better against the pass, all right.

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Speaker 5: So that's what the Bengals did yesterday. Mentioned they missed

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Speaker 5: out on Lloyd who went to the Panthers to the

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Speaker 5: linebacker that I thought would have made it a perfect

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Speaker 5: day for the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: But there are still a lot of names out there.

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Speaker 3: There are still names to look out for or to

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Speaker 3: watch for. As today unfolds, we'll catch you up on

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Speaker 3: anything that's happened today, and look at some of those

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Speaker 3: names still out there on the market. When we return

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Speaker 3: on the SPA fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station thanks to Skyline.

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Speaker 1: Chili, your front row seat to the fierces debates in

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Speaker 1: sports mo Egger today at three pm on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: How good does this sound? Skyline's welcome back since he

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Speaker 3: three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station thanks

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Speaker 3: to Skyline ChIL, Let us know what you think of

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Speaker 3: day one of legal tampering for the Cincinnati Bengals. As

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Speaker 3: we now turn the page.

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Speaker 5: To day two, a little bit slower start to day two, Austin,

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Speaker 5: I did see Khalif Raymond, formerly of the Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 5: kick returner wide receiver, has has a deal in place

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Speaker 5: with the Chicago Bears, So the Bears ad another offensive weapon.

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Speaker 5: Tight End Alton Knox is staying with the Buffalo Bills on.

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Speaker 3: A new three year deal. It's pretty much all that's

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Speaker 3: happened up to this point. As you start to look

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Speaker 3: to today, Now are their names, Austin. Obviously, Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 3: is the top overall name according to a lot of

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Speaker 3: people who are still out there other names Rashid Walker,

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Speaker 3: Braden Smith offensive tackles, Tyreek Wooling, the cornerback, Romeo Dobbs,

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Speaker 3: Juan Jennings, Taylor Decker on the offensive line. Leo Chanel

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Speaker 3: is a linebacker that I think a lot of people

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Speaker 3: are now circling as could that be the Bengals target

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Speaker 3: to fill that void? Are there any other names that

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Speaker 3: you're looking for or hoping to hear about today?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I expect them to go after a linebacker.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's necessarily going to be today

545
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: or if that it's something where you know, the pace

546
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Speaker 3: is just kind of slowed down and guys are taking

547
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Speaker 3: in their time and trying to figure out the fits.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think there was a couple of cornerbacks.

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Speaker 3: I think Greg Newsom signed with the Giants, bendem and

550
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Speaker 3: Saint Juice this morning with the Packers. You just mentioned

551
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Speaker 3: Khalif Rayman. That's basically it so far today in terms

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Speaker 3: of the free agent So yeah, I think the two

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Speaker 3: names a lot of Bengals fans should you pay attention

554
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Speaker 3: to are Leo Chanel, the linebacker formerly of the Chiefs,

555
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Speaker 3: just twenty five years old, and Caden Ellis the linebacker

556
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Speaker 3: with the Falcons. He's a little bit older, he's thirty

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Speaker 3: one years old. But both of those guys bring a

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Speaker 3: skill set that they're trying to add to the defense

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Speaker 3: that can kind of be the dude that comes off

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Speaker 3: the edge the blitzer a little bit. You know. Al

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Speaker 3: Golden spoke at the combine about asking Demetrius Knight Junior

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Speaker 3: to do that a little bit too much. He doesn't

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Speaker 3: want him to do that that frequently. Well, if you

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Speaker 3: add a linebacker like Ellis, or you add a linebacker

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Speaker 3: like Chanel, you can put them into that role and

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Speaker 3: better use the skill set that you drafted Demetrius Knight for.

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Speaker 3: So for that reason, I think the Bengals will still

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Speaker 3: draft one of those guys, and they have plenty of

569
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Speaker 3: space to be able to do that.

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Speaker 5: The question I got yesterday and the one that remains

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Speaker 5: is did a move that they made yesterday take away

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Speaker 5: something they could do on draft night? For instance, Caleb

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Speaker 5: Downs is a player that I think since the Bengals

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Speaker 5: were slotted into number ten, that has been a name

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Speaker 5: that you have seen often tied to the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 5: as a position of need and a player that just

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Speaker 5: makes sense because of not only what the Bengals need,

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Speaker 5: but because of how good Caleb Downs is. Does what

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Speaker 5: the Bengals did yesterday change anything about how they may address.

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Speaker 3: Pick number ten? It shouldn't agreed.

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Speaker 5: If you're at ten and Caleb Downs is a guy

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Speaker 5: you've liked and he's still there, regardless if you just

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Speaker 5: paid Brian Cook, I think you still got to take

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Speaker 5: Caleb Downs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially you know the way that those contracts

586
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Speaker 3: the Bengals, the way that they always go about these

587
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: contracts is there's space on the back end of them

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Speaker 3: for the Bengals to cut ties if they want to.

589
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: That's why they're so front loaded. You get a big

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Speaker 3: signing bonus, you get a decent amount in year number one,

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Speaker 3: and then so on. Now, each of those contracts with

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Speaker 3: Mafe and Cook are different, but yeah, you always want

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Speaker 3: that flexibility. And outside of that, I leave Tyson Anderson's

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Speaker 3: a free agent as well, So you need depth in

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Speaker 3: that position. I think it's at the moment Jordan Battle,

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Speaker 3: Dejon Anthony and Brian Cook. You're gonna need another safety

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Speaker 3: at some point. So either way, I mean, it's obviously incomplete.

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Speaker 3: Right now. You should be in a position where you

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Speaker 3: can take the best player available. I mean, if it's

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Speaker 3: Sunny Styles, it's Sonny Styles. Correct. If it's Ruben Bain,

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Speaker 3: it's Ruben Bain. Either way. Added to a defense in

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Speaker 3: which you can create a rotation, whether that's bringing Caleb

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Speaker 3: Downs in or bringing Brian Cook down into the box

604
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Speaker 3: and putting Caleb Downs over top, or whatever it might be, like,

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Speaker 3: you should create as much versatility as you can with

606
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 3: the best players you have. Yeah, I think the main

607
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: thing that I took from yesterday, awesome day, that should

608
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: not deter them from changing their draft strategy up at all.

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Speaker 3: I would maybe if maybe so, maybe if they liked

610
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Speaker 3: Downs a little bit more, but Bain and Downs are there,

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Speaker 3: then I could see, Okay, maybe Bain makes a little

612
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: more sense. But if they go in and address linebacker

613
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Speaker 3: before the draft, if they address linebacker at some point today,

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Speaker 3: I still think you now set yourself up perfectly for

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Speaker 3: the draft and pick number ten. Let's say that they

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Speaker 3: sign Leo Chanel. Let's say that they signed Logan Hall,

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Speaker 3: the defensive tackle from the Buccaneers. Let's say that they

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Speaker 3: sign I don't know, one of the corners, not necessarily

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Speaker 3: one of the top flight guys, but maybe Kobe Durant

620
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Speaker 3: or you know, one of those types of players. In

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Speaker 3: an ideal world, I might say that means you take

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Speaker 3: an offensive tackle at number ten, Say that would open

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Speaker 3: up tackle, That would open up the idea that you

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Speaker 3: could take the best player, no matter what the position

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Speaker 3: on the board. Right and listen, I have a hard

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Speaker 3: time believing any of the tackles are better players than

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Speaker 3: Sonny Styles and Caleb Downs and Reuben Bain. But but

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Speaker 3: there's a huge question mark with Orlando Brown junior. He

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00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: was fine last year, but he wasn't good enough last year, agreed,

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Speaker 3: And he's getting older. He didn't look like he was

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Speaker 3: in shape at all last year. That I think is

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Speaker 3: an issue that the Bengals are going to have to

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Speaker 3: address with him. And maybe you can light a fire

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Speaker 3: under the guys. But by drafting a tackle in the

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Speaker 3: top ten, all I'm saying is, if you take care

636
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: of what you're supposed to, you can open up the

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00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: floodgates potentially for the offense at number ten. Yeah, maybe

638
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: James Rapine and Jeremiah Love. I don't know, we'll see it.

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00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: Just it sets you up in a really, really good spot.

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Speaker 3: We'll take some time today, and I thought what we

641
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: could do is is maybe do a little mock draft

642
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 3: post day one of legal tampering to see how maybe

643
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: that has changed. Also, want to talk about the AFC

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00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: North and what that means for those teams based on

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Speaker 3: what they did or didn't do yesterday. Before we do

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Speaker 3: any of that, your phone calls next, and then Joe

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Speaker 3: Danaman at the top of our number two on since

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Speaker 3: He three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: See three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back, since He three sixty thanks to Skyline Chiley,

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Speaker 5: we got Joe Dannaman. We're gonna talk about Hunter Green.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna talk about the Cincinnati Bengals. To kick off

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Speaker 5: our number two. Before that, we've got a few minutes.

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Speaker 5: Let's take some phone calls. Let's start in Florence where

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Speaker 5: Mark is standing by.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Mark?

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Speaker 4: I'm just oh, okay, but here, if them two guys

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Speaker 4: help the Bengals win on defense, Okay, fine, it was

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Speaker 4: a good move. But here's what I'm disappointed about. If

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Speaker 4: you gonna throw money at the safety position again, then

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Speaker 4: why didn't you just pay Jesse Bates, whatever that difference

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Speaker 4: was or the money that he was asking and what

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Speaker 4: the Bengals wanted to pay for the money that they

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Speaker 4: have spent since they let him walk out the door.

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Speaker 4: They could have just.

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Speaker 3: Paid him the money they have spent.

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Speaker 5: Your I thought yesterday was I think, awesome for the

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Speaker 5: first time saying, you know what, hand up we messed

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Speaker 5: up to Jesse Bates, thing, we're gonna get it right

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Speaker 5: this time exactly.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I think before that that's a fair argument because they've

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Speaker 3: tried for years and they've spent more money than what

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Speaker 3: it would have cost to retain Jesse Bates. But I

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Speaker 3: thought yesterday, even with Caleb Downs as a possibility at

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Speaker 3: number ten, I thought that was the Bengals saying, you

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Speaker 3: know what, we're not doing this again. Let's go and

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Speaker 3: let's pay a guy that that we know can play ball.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, okay, say I would have liked to have

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Speaker 4: seen another cornerback or a linebacker because other teams, if

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Speaker 4: you're going into the season with Dax Hill and DJ Turner,

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Speaker 4: other teams are gonna find Dax Hill in cover he

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Speaker 4: can't cover, and the other teams are gonna find that.

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Speaker 4: So I would have liked to have seen that, and

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Speaker 4: maybe a linebacker.

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Speaker 3: They can still sign guys.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that's fine. The defensive end they signed. Okay,

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Speaker 4: you went out and spent money on him, so that

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Speaker 4: that makes the samar Stewart picked last year a raised.

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Speaker 5: They lost Osai and they lost Hendrickson. They needed to

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Speaker 5: address that multiple times. Anyway, I believe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, got it on that. One of y'all brought

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Speaker 4: up a point about Orlando Brown. I would if they

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Speaker 4: don't take a left tackle in the first round, I

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Speaker 4: would like to see a left tackle in the second

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Speaker 4: round because I think it's time to start looking at

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Speaker 4: replacing him. I never was on board with that signing

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Speaker 4: in the first place, and then what I saw with

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Speaker 4: him last year, he doesn't anchor that line For the

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Speaker 4: money that they're.

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Speaker 5: Paying, especially for a left tackle, left tackle better be

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Speaker 5: anchoring a lot more. And I feel like with Scott Peters,

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Speaker 5: I saw improvement from a lot of the linemen. It

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Speaker 5: felt like Orlando Brown at the end of the year

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Speaker 5: was kind of the weak link at left tackle, and

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Speaker 5: I think that's troubling.

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Speaker 4: And hopefully if they draft a lineman, they draft a

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Speaker 4: tackle instead of a guard and then making him a

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Speaker 4: tackle because that Dyl un Fairchild guy looks like he'll

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Speaker 4: probably work out. And he was a guard in college

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Speaker 4: and he's a and you know he's a guard in

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Speaker 4: the NFL, then that looks like that'll work. So that

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Speaker 4: was my take on yesterday. Going forward, I would still

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Speaker 4: like to see him take that safety because I just believe,

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Speaker 4: you know, go ahead and draft a safety and try

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Speaker 4: to see if you can develop him into him being

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Speaker 4: as good as Bates was, and then go from there

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Speaker 4: and maybe and maybe see if you can see if

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Speaker 4: you could sign an impact linebacker because I still think

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Speaker 4: they need they still need an impact linebacker.

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Speaker 3: Mark, thank you for the phone call, man. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: You know, do you think there is anyone that's gonna

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Speaker 5: be mad Austin if I'm in Game one the back

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Speaker 5: end of their defense is Brian Cook and Caleb Downs.

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Speaker 3: No, I'd be alright with that. Like it's been very

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Speaker 3: well documented on this show and anybody who covers the

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Speaker 3: Bengals how badly the Bengals screwed up. The Jesse Bates thing. Yep, yesterday,

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Speaker 3: as you said, was indicative of them saying, okay, and

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Speaker 3: we're tired of trying to put a band aid over this.

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Speaker 3: We're getting it fixed. And they did it. And yes,

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Speaker 3: it took them too long and they screwed up the process,

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Speaker 3: but they did what we've been asking them to do.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to move the goalpost on him now

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Speaker 3: and say, well you could have been all that line like,

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Speaker 3: I just don't understand that mentality. Yeah, we've we've talked

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Speaker 3: about it endlessly over the last couple of years. How

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Speaker 3: bad they've screwed it up. Fix it, fix it, fix it,

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Speaker 3: fix it, fix it. That's what we've been saying. Okay,

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Speaker 3: they did. Yeah, celebrate it, John, what's going on?

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Speaker 8: Happy Tuesday? Fellas? You all right, you're still way behind me,

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Speaker 8: but you know, eventually they catch up. I think I

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Speaker 8: would say the two players they signed yesterday at Mafe

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Speaker 8: and Cook, I give him a bet. Plus Mafay obviously,

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Speaker 8: I think it's gonna be a better skin sit here

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Speaker 8: than he was in Seattle. On the Mike McDonald because

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Speaker 8: you saw it in twenty twenty three, Mafay had nine

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Speaker 8: facts the year before McDonald's came to Seattle. Now, McDonald's

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Speaker 8: a great coach. They just won the Super Bowl. But

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Speaker 8: I think the Bengals can get even more out of

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Speaker 8: him and Cook, you guys knowing better than I since

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Speaker 8: he played for the bear Cats. But he just seems

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Speaker 8: like a really solid player right like he's going to

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Speaker 8: be at the right place at the right time.

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Speaker 3: He's not going to make mistakes.

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Speaker 8: As you said, only twenty two miss tackles in four

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Speaker 8: years compared to Geno Stones twenty three last year. I

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Speaker 8: will upgrade the free agent signing to an A because

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Speaker 8: the best free agent signing so far still is Jessica Album.

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Speaker 8: Now what I would do is I would hire her

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Speaker 8: as the director of scouting because she certainly has a

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Speaker 8: keen eye for her elite talents. Got to give her

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Speaker 8: a job in the front office. He certainly knows how.

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Speaker 3: To scout talent.

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Speaker 8: Jessica Albant a nice addition to the franchise. Yeah, the

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Speaker 8: thing that I looked at and I think Austin he

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Speaker 8: nailed it with Trey Hendrickson in twenty twenty four when

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Speaker 8: he was runner up for Defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 8: It's seventeen and a half sacks.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 8: Nine of them came in four games against three teams,

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Speaker 8: four against the Raiders, two against the Giants, and three

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Speaker 8: sacks against Cleveland in two games. I mean, those were

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Speaker 8: three of the worst teams in football that year. In

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Speaker 8: two games against Baltimore, no sacks, in one game against Philadelphia,

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Speaker 8: no sacks. So it seems like he's a compiler who's

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Speaker 8: pour against the run, a very little leadership. So ready

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Speaker 8: to move on from him. But I do think the

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Speaker 8: two signings yesterday totally outstanding and it's a good way

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Speaker 8: to start free agency.

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Speaker 5: Without a doubt. John, Thanks so much for your phone call, man.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate you anytime.

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Speaker 3: Fellas.

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, Yeah, I think I saw the tweet floating

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Speaker 5: around yesterday. If you want to see the formula to

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Speaker 5: make a college football playoff Austin, the bear Cats that

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Speaker 5: have gotten paid in the last couple of months, Sauce Gardner,

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Speaker 5: Alec Pierce, Kobe Bryant, Brian Cook.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, played well too, pretty good. They really played good

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Speaker 3: in that game. Pretty good, and well any of them

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Speaker 3: they did they for.

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Speaker 5: I was thinking I could sneak that one, but getting

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Speaker 5: that past the Goltender, my mind's not there yet. I

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Speaker 5: will forget. I don't remember much of it. Probably the

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Speaker 5: earliest I've ever went to bed on New year's even

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Speaker 5: my life day. Whatever, Joe Daniman, well, we'll join us.

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Speaker 5: We've got a ton to get to with Joe, from

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Speaker 5: Hunter Green to UH to the Cincinnati Bank and more.

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