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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from Orelliot Avenue Studios of Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. This is Sounders Weekly

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Speaker 1: with your host Jackson Felds.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, everybody, and welcome into the season finale of

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Speaker 2: Sounders Weekly. Jackson Felds Here for the next hour here

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. We'll have this

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Speaker 2: season ending edition of Rain Weekly coming up in a

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Speaker 2: one hour with Kiley Dunning.

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Speaker 3: But for the next hour.

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Speaker 2: It is myself and you can probably hear a little

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Speaker 2: echo right now because we have five mics on here

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Speaker 2: in the studio here at KJR ninety three point three FM,

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Speaker 2: five mics for a special season ending roundtable. First to

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Speaker 2: my left, he's been on all season. We just had

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of taco time and I am happy

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Speaker 2: to pay off Ari the ten dollars that I spent

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Speaker 2: on your meal for the thousand visits you've been on

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Speaker 2: the entire year. Ari Lillianwall writer editor for mls ugger

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Speaker 2: dot com. He also hosts the podcast Lobbing Scorches. We

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Speaker 2: have him here from KGr. You all know him, you

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Speaker 2: all love him. Anders Hurst. We have Already's partner with

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Speaker 2: the Lobbing Scorches podcast, Noah Rife here as well, and

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Speaker 2: from Sportspolso and Sounder Hart Nico Moreno himself, all of

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Speaker 2: us here in person for a Sounders season ending roundtable.

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Speaker 3: I don't really know.

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Speaker 2: Where to start because for me, for the last number

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Speaker 2: of days it's been just heartbreak since you know, the

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Speaker 2: game ended in penalty kicks. If you're if you're just

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Speaker 2: joining us and you just are you know, getting caught up.

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Speaker 2: The Sounder season has ended in the first round of

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Speaker 2: the MLS Cup playoffs. It is a three to three

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Speaker 2: draw after ninety minutes. Then in penalty shootout went ten rounds.

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Speaker 2: You never see penalty shootouts go ten rounds. This time

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Speaker 2: it did. Minnesota's keeper goalkeeper steps up, hits his penalty kick.

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Speaker 2: Our goalkeeper steps up, does not. He goes off the bar,

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Speaker 2: and the Sounders have lost in penalty kicks there in

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Speaker 2: the first round of the playoffs. In game three. Their

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Speaker 2: season is over. We are here to talk about it, okay, Ari,

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Speaker 2: I'll start with you, then we'll go Anders, Noah Nico

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Speaker 2: right now. I think the first thing, well, and listen

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Speaker 2: this is a show that's gonna go to eight pm.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be on here for an hour. If we

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Speaker 2: go more than an hour, we're gonna bump over to

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Speaker 2: a recording studio and finish the conversation. Put it up

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Speaker 2: on the Sounders Weekly podcast page. But we'll start right now,

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Speaker 2: Ari with I think just where your head is at

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Speaker 2: a few days after that game has ended, and all

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Speaker 2: because I've been on about a kick of seven different

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Speaker 3: Where are you at right now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jackson, you know, I think it is a two

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Speaker 4: One thing is for sure, the way that season ended sucked.

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Speaker 4: That was a brutal way to end the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: And also, you know, this club has a history of long, deep,

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Speaker 3: Of good stuff to take away from this season. A

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Speaker 4: We all wanted to see this offense get better this

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Speaker 4: This scored eighty seven goals all competitions this year, so

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Speaker 4: But as for where they're at holistically going forward, you

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Speaker 3: Us that this year. So I think both of those

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you said it right there. Ari.

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Speaker 6: It's not all losses are created equal, especially when it

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Speaker 6: more than just a regular loss. And to me, after

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Speaker 6: it's another year older with this roster I'm starting to

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Speaker 6: I'm curious what steps are gonna make to kind of

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Speaker 6: So it just there's a lot of question marks. While

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Speaker 7: I mean, I am sitting here looking at our trophy

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Speaker 7: I watched us win the best Sounders game that I

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Speaker 7: threw punches, were spitting. I mean, this is what soccer

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Speaker 7: the narrative found it all Andrew Thomas coming in, becoming

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Speaker 7: on one hand, I'm zooming out much like anders and

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Speaker 7: I'm saying, this was a great season. I had so

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Speaker 3: That team could have done more.

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Speaker 2: I think Nico and I think there is I agree

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Speaker 2: with all you guys that there's the two minds about it.

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Speaker 2: Of man, that was a great season. It was so

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's the most difficult part. And first

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Speaker 8: of all, thank you for having all of us. The

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Speaker 9: Man, I'm just at allat hear clear. No, the reality

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Speaker 8: It does put this damper and this cloud over the

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Speaker 8: And that's why what the way our started it, and

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Speaker 8: I like to think that I'm the voice of reason

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Speaker 8: I love the passionate fan that's like, this is not

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Speaker 8: And I think that there needs to be a voice

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Speaker 8: scoring seven goals on the best defensive team in the league,

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Speaker 9: It's tough, right, It's it's difficult to hear, but we.

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Speaker 8: Cannot forget that this team, like you guys have already said,

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Speaker 8: they didn't just get a trophy. But more importantly for me,

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Speaker 8: He is the goalkeeper of the future. You gotta hate Sustira.

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Speaker 8: Albert Russna I thought he had a good season. I

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Speaker 8: I just think that there's a core group of players

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Speaker 8: there is a baseline and can they get better? Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the season ending Sounders Weekly Roundtable. That's

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Speaker 2: the voice of Nico Moreno's sports Polso Sounder at Hearts

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Speaker 2: will go in opposite order. Noah Riefe, who hosts the

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Speaker 2: podcast Lobbing Scorches. Were also have Ari Llionan, who does

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Speaker 2: and editor there anders Hurst Jackson Feltz here from kjar

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Speaker 2: as we wrap up the Sounder season. It's funny, I

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Speaker 3: I was planning later in.

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Speaker 2: The show to talk about where this team sits at

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Speaker 7: You think they're gonna go play Sandy like, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Hold him to that.

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Speaker 3: Stephen Fry is a massive question mark.

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Speaker 2: I got emotional on the postgame show on Saturday when

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Speaker 8: Look, I don't think that that the last time we'll

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Speaker 3: And leading the back line.

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Speaker 3: If he's able to do that.

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Speaker 7: Right? I think we can all sit here and say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's I think we're right. Let's let me

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I'm just going to speculate here because I

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Speaker 3: He and he is, to be fair, he said that

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Speaker 6: They're still going to play in multiple competitions. It's not

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Speaker 7: shootout the in game one. Potentially it's yeah, like, I mean,

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Speaker 7: I know, that's that's interesting, putting out whatever into the air.

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Speaker 7: It's not real, but you have to think that they

436
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Speaker 7: have a better chance in that match considering what happens

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Speaker 7: in Minnesota. Maybe they don't. Maybe, guys, maybe we don't

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Speaker 7: even play a game three.

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Speaker 2: We're not sitting here right now. Yeah, Yeah, and it's

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Speaker 2: it's It's wild. That's the voice of Noah Rife before

441
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Speaker 2: that Ari Leonwall. Both of them do the podcast lobbying Scorges.

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Speaker 2: We have Anders Hurst and myself Jackson Feltz here from KGr.

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Speaker 2: We also have Nico Moreno from Sports Polso and Sounder

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Speaker 2: at Hard. We're doing a special season ending edition of

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Speaker 2: Sounders Weekly.

446
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Speaker 3: Wrapping up the season.

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Speaker 2: After the team lost in the first round of the

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Speaker 2: MLS Cup playoffs in Game three. In this best of

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Speaker 2: three series, it was three to three after ninety and

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Speaker 2: then seven to six after penalty kicks, Minnesotap moved through.

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Speaker 2: We will continue, I think, talking about where we sit

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Speaker 2: going into twenty twenty six. We'll get to that to

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Speaker 2: Obed Vargas, how the attack looks after putting up what

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Speaker 2: was then eighty seven ninety seventy seven while in fifty

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Speaker 2: games eighty seven goals and fifty games for the Sounders

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Speaker 2: this year, we'll talk about where the team sits. Maybe

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Speaker 2: eventually we get back to Minnesota, but probably not. We'll

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Speaker 2: see a lot here to get to as we continue

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Speaker 2: the season ending edition of Sounders Weekly. Here Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: ninety three point three KJRFM.

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Speaker 1: Now back to Sounders Weekly on your home for Sounders

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, season ending edition of Sounders Weekly. We are

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Speaker 2: holding a very special roundtable here tonight. We're munching down

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Speaker 2: a bunch of taco time enjoying our beef burritos and

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Speaker 2: spicy Mexi fries.

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Speaker 3: It is tater fries, excuse me.

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Speaker 2: It is a wonderful night here in the studio to

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Speaker 2: just be with friends, because we all need a little

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Speaker 2: bit of time with friends and a little bit of

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Speaker 2: time here with this kind of therapy as it is

472
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Speaker 2: talking about the end of the Sounders season. Jackson Feldts, Ari,

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Speaker 2: Lillianwall anders Hurst, Noah Rife, Nico Moreno, the five of

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Speaker 2: us holding it down here on the roundtable talking about

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Speaker 2: the end of the Sounders season. I want to get

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Speaker 2: back to the Sounders midfield and I want to talk

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Speaker 2: Obed Vargas because there's a couple parts to this, and

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Speaker 2: I think the first part is the crux of the

479
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Speaker 2: question will he be here or not? That question is

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Speaker 2: influenced by if you are Craig Wible and if you're

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Speaker 2: Adrian Hanauer, if you're the Sounders leadership who are talking

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Speaker 2: to teams potentially in Europe about numbers and niko.

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Speaker 3: If you have anything to share, go ahead and share it.

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Speaker 3: But obviously yes.

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Speaker 2: But what I think that the conversation starts here is

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Speaker 2: if you get an offer from a club that says X,

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Speaker 2: do you instantly say no, other talks were taking it?

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Speaker 3: Move forward?

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Speaker 2: And if you don't get that number. So it's two

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Speaker 2: part question here for each of you. We'll start with Ari,

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Speaker 2: go around the table. If you don't get that number

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Speaker 2: that you say I want for Obed, do you roll

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Speaker 2: into twenty twenty six with the Christian Obed double pivot

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Speaker 2: that was so successful this year.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would love to.

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Speaker 4: Keep Obed on the team. He had a phenomenal year.

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Speaker 4: He's a superstar player. He showed that in the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: he showed that all season.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of this.

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Speaker 4: To me, it should come down to what he wants

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Speaker 4: for his own career. He wants to go play in

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Speaker 4: he wants to go play in Europe. That's what he's

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Speaker 4: stated many times. So whether that happens before before this

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Speaker 4: next season, or if he stays one more year and

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Speaker 4: then they move him on, they're gonna have to uh

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Speaker 4: figure that out. But by all accounts, this is a

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Speaker 4: move that he wants to make. He wants to push

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Speaker 4: himself to that level. His aspirations with the Mexican national

509
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Speaker 4: team plays into that. So to me, it's it's less

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Speaker 4: about the number. They're gonna get a good number for him.

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Speaker 4: It's more about the timing of it and what he wants,

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Speaker 4: like he should if he feels like he has unfinished

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Speaker 4: business here and he wants to stay here another year

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Speaker 4: and then reassess next season, I think he should be

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Speaker 4: able to do that. But if he does want to

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Speaker 4: make the move this offseason, then they they should, they

517
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Speaker 4: should facilitate that, they should let him do it. And

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Speaker 4: Erstari's point the unfinished business.

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Speaker 2: He's one of the players who had a chance to

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Speaker 2: win it in penalty, could shootout, he missed.

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Speaker 3: So maybe there is that degree.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's he's on the Mexican national team for these

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Speaker 2: November games he wants to you know, maybe I don't

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Speaker 2: know it. That is an interesting factor of where he

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Speaker 2: sits in all.

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Speaker 6: And I know these high level competitors are different animals

527
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Speaker 6: in terms of how they think about these things. But

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Speaker 6: I don't put too much stock into him. This penalty

529
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Speaker 6: kick from a nineteen year old, like, it's just it's

530
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Speaker 6: gonna happen. I realize the stakes are big, but that's

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Speaker 6: just gonna happen. These are it's it's a crapshoot with

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Speaker 6: this kind of stuff, Like so the penalty kick put aside,

533
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Speaker 6: it's weird. I talked to these guys before we went

534
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Speaker 6: live about you know which teams you're support in Europe.

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Speaker 6: There there can be a totally different vibe with you

536
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Speaker 6: know who you root for across the pond, and maybe

537
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Speaker 6: you root for like a smaller team. Sometimes you take

538
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Speaker 6: pride and when a player from your team goes to

539
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Speaker 6: a bigger club has success, and you can be like,

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Speaker 6: we grew him, we made him.

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Speaker 3: What yond exactly.

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Speaker 6: There's lots of examples of that the Sounders law as well.

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Speaker 6: So it just depends on what you want as a fan.

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Speaker 6: But if I'm talking purely from the club's perspective in

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Speaker 6: winning in twenty twenty six, the question for me is

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Speaker 6: do you trust the Sounders to use the money that

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Speaker 6: you would get from obed Vargas to make the team

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Speaker 6: forget better, even as good as it would be with

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Speaker 6: obed Vargas in the team right now?

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Speaker 5: And I don't know if that answer.

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Speaker 4: She's ready to go, dude, No, I just have I

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Speaker 4: just have two words. I just have two words to

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Speaker 4: say on that topic, Snyder for now.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, I'll match it with Danny the Reality

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Speaker 2: go ahead.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, look, Noah has not got a chance to go,

557
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Speaker 8: but yeah, you're here, big Danny Laver.

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Speaker 9: Let's let's go there. Okay.

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Speaker 8: First of all, this is the complex topic because there

560
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Speaker 8: is a time clock when he comes to ob Vargas

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Speaker 8: right now. Why you asked, because he right now as

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Speaker 8: of today, he doesn't have a contract extension with Seattle

563
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Speaker 8: Seaertra needs to make sure that if they want to

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Speaker 8: pass him on in a transfer, they have to try

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Speaker 8: to do this mainly right now or the best possibility,

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Speaker 8: let's call it the best possibility, not a is a

567
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Speaker 8: do or die, but the biggest possibility for them to

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Speaker 8: transfer him without any issues is right now, because when

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Speaker 8: it comes to the summer window, he could do a

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Speaker 8: pre contract with another team, meaning that there is a

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Speaker 8: possibility that Ovid walks out as I would say the

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Speaker 8: best prospect out of the academy.

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Speaker 9: Obviously Jedlin's in that conversation for zero dollars.

574
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Speaker 8: So claub Brooge out of Belgium has been on him,

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Speaker 8: has scouted his games, has been completely relentless when it

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Speaker 8: comes to targeting. So the number is the question. Obviously

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to share the number, but the number

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Speaker 8: is going to be where things kind of lay at.

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Speaker 8: But what you guys said is true. Right, you have

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Speaker 8: to do right by the player, and the Sounders have

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Speaker 8: always been good at them. They always do right by

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Speaker 8: the players. They want to make sure that you don't

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Speaker 8: hold a player hostage. Here, you want him to continue

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Speaker 8: to develop his career, but it's also a business right.

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Speaker 8: You can't just let somebody walk for not enough money

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Speaker 8: that you're going to be able to replace them. And

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Speaker 8: now when he comes to replacing them, I think that

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Speaker 8: there are pieces here. Danny Leva is a guy that

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Speaker 8: has grown substantially. If you want to go look at

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Speaker 8: a really good interview and Sondra hart I did a

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Speaker 8: one on one on what we call the Coach's Corner

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Speaker 8: with Freddie Warez and he talks about the growth of

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Speaker 8: Danny Leva.

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Speaker 9: Check that out.

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Speaker 8: Because it'll literally make you understand why he's the next

596
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Speaker 8: guy that's going to take over that role. So for me,

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Speaker 8: it won't be easy, it won't be simple because clearly

598
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Speaker 8: the talent level of ovid bargains is generational, right, you

599
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 8: don't get it all the time. And the way he

600
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Speaker 8: works the pivot with Christian roll Dan didn't just happen.

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Speaker 8: In that same interview, Freddie says, this is a three

602
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Speaker 8: year product, three year process to get this offense to

603
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Speaker 8: where it's at right now. The fluidity that interchangeables, the versatility,

604
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Speaker 8: everything about this offense right now has been a three

605
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Speaker 8: year process. So you're gonna have to find match. You're

606
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Speaker 8: probably not gonna be at DATAI level. But I do

607
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Speaker 8: think that that Leva is going to be able to

608
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Speaker 8: come in perform and at one point become the guy

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Speaker 8: that helps this tandem in the midfield work.

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Speaker 7: The Sounders are in an interesting position because for them,

611
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Speaker 7: they need to make this deal go through in the

612
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Speaker 7: summer to make any money off of their prospect. But

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Speaker 7: also Oba's possibilities kind of open up when there's no

614
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Speaker 7: transfer fee, and that's I mean, I think Nico would

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Speaker 7: agree with me to say that, Like it's tough as

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Speaker 7: a player because the Sounders they need they've kind of

617
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Speaker 7: been banking on this money in a way, like you

618
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Speaker 7: develop this player. He is one of my favorite Craig

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Speaker 7: Wible things that he's ever said was like, yeah, if

620
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Speaker 7: any every single player has had Obed Vargas on their

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Speaker 7: scouting report at some point, Like every single player, every

622
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Speaker 7: single club in the world has had Obed Vargas on

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Speaker 7: their scouting report at some point. Like he is that

624
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Speaker 7: generational of a talent. How do you just let that

625
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Speaker 7: walk away for free? That's gonna sting. But also Obed

626
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Speaker 7: has all of the leverage in this conversation, as he should.

627
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Speaker 7: But it's tough. It's gonna be a tough decision, and

628
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Speaker 7: I really, I really think that there was steps along

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Speaker 7: the way where they probably could have extended, paid him

630
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Speaker 7: more at certain points and gotten a little bit, a

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Speaker 7: little bit more leeway on this. But it's just that's the.

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Speaker 2: Position we're in because now Noah, he's I mean, if

633
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Speaker 2: we're being real and if he was just a free

634
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Speaker 2: agent in Major League Soccer and says I want to

635
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Speaker 2: play an MLS, he could probably warrant a DP deal.

636
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Speaker 2: Oh for sure, that's what he might be worth on

637
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Speaker 2: the open market, even even if he wants to go

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Speaker 2: anywhere else in Europe. No transfer fee, Are you kidding me?

639
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Speaker 2: Bigger clubs are gonna want to take a chance on that.

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Speaker 9: So just real quick.

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Speaker 8: The last of the things I'll say about this is,

642
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Speaker 8: obviously he's taking a gamble because if you extend with

643
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Speaker 8: the Sounders today, you max out a million dollars and

644
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 8: you have a insurance that if something happens, if you

645
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 8: get injured, is something you're gonna be okay. So if

646
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Speaker 8: you gamble, and you gamble on yourself, which is something

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Speaker 8: that you know, like Noah said, he has some leverage

648
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Speaker 8: and quite honestly, you know how agents are. He's gonna

649
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Speaker 8: try to cash in on that transfer and there's more

650
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Speaker 8: money to be had if you don't share that transfer

651
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Speaker 8: fee with a club. Right so, there is some things

652
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Speaker 8: that are gonna want to push him that way. I

653
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 8: honestly feel like the best possible circumstance for everyone is

654
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Speaker 8: that Obed signs an extension right now for a million dollars.

655
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Speaker 8: He has no rush, continues to develop himself and then

656
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Speaker 8: market himself with a winning team, and then we'll see

657
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Speaker 8: what happens after that.

658
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Speaker 9: But you could go either way because.

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Speaker 6: The biggest question for me to the player of Obed Vargas, Again,

660
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Speaker 6: I don't know him personally, so I can't really like

661
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Speaker 6: speak to what his answer would be on this, But

662
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Speaker 6: is Club Bruges your end all be all? Is that

663
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Speaker 6: where you want to end up? Because that could be

664
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Speaker 6: a possibility if that's how it is. How much more

665
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 6: are you going to develop there versus here in Seattle

666
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 6: for like two or three more years, Right.

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Speaker 3: So, and that goes to the question of Jordan Morris.

668
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Speaker 2: Right if Jordan Morris had started his career with Worder Bremen,

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Speaker 2: and had you know, stayed in Germany and done the

670
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Speaker 2: whole Worder Bremen route, where would he be right now?

671
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Speaker 7: The USMNT fans are about to be on this podcast

672
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 7: that was not the right We don't even need to

673
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Speaker 7: get into that speculation.

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Speaker 6: But my point is is, like, so I love what

675
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Speaker 6: Nico said here. The best I think that I agree,

676
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 6: the best thing for everyone is if he signs a

677
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 6: maybe two three pot at most year exten extension where

678
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 6: he could still develop and then at age twenty two

679
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 6: to twenty three can go to be a could still

680
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Speaker 6: move to that bigger club. If he continues this trajectory

681
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 6: that he's on right now, he can still grow and

682
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 6: develop here, be a big part of this team right now,

683
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 6: get a bunch of playing time in a league that's growing,

684
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Speaker 6: and still like have the security, a long term security

685
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 6: that if something were to happen, you still have that

686
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Speaker 6: kind of in the bank, so to speak.

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Speaker 8: So and bring up a great point, and and and Ari,

688
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Speaker 8: obviously you gotta go next to this, but he brings

689
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Speaker 8: up a great point because you know what, this is

690
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Speaker 8: actually obviously a World Cup year. You don't want to

691
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Speaker 8: change clubs right before that because had it just gave

692
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Speaker 8: him a call for the friends that are coming up

693
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Speaker 8: for Mexico. So you usually don't move when it comes

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Speaker 8: to the World Cup.

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Speaker 5: Year doing something right. So it's gonna be.

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Speaker 8: Interesting how that that plays into consideration. So that's a

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Speaker 8: that's a great point thereby Anderson.

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Speaker 7: I also don't think, sorry, Ari, I'm gonna tell you out,

699
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Speaker 7: but I also and I'll toss this, I'll talk. This

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00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 7: is a question, Mari, actually because I'm a really great

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Speaker 7: co host. Clearly he does the talking most of the time,

702
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Speaker 7: so I'm getting mine in now. But you're not moving

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Speaker 7: from MLS to the premier league. That just that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 7: Club Bruge is an incredible stepping stone to be seen

705
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Speaker 7: in Europe, to be seen like, okay, yes, you can

706
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 7: move away from home, you can have a challenge, you

707
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Speaker 7: can play in you know UEFA tournaments. That's that's the

708
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 7: reality of it is. That is where he's going to

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Speaker 7: be seen if he wants to play in a top

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Speaker 7: tier European league. So yeah, I do think like a

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Speaker 7: move like that is great. And PSV We've talked about that.

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Speaker 3: But back to the question, I'll just step I'll just

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Speaker 3: step in, Ari and throw it back to you. Ari,

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Speaker 3: what do you have to say? Well, I think we

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Speaker 3: I think we pretty much.

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Speaker 4: Said it all on the O Beed front, But I

717
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Speaker 4: do think I do think it's actually a good segue

718
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Speaker 4: into there are a lot of interesting off season questions

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Speaker 4: with this roster outside of even just open oh big time.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what's gonna happen with Paul Rothrock?

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Speaker 7: Next question?

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Speaker 3: That is a very that's gonna be probably the Mary.

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Speaker 2: Let me jump in and cut you off there because

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Speaker 2: we're gonna take a break and I'll I will come

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Speaker 2: back to you to start the next segment with the

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Speaker 2: Paul Rothrock question and to let you continue because there

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Speaker 2: are even more questions than just Paul Rothrock. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to a special Sounders Weekly season ending round table. Jackson Feldts, Ari, Lolinwell, Andersurs,

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Speaker 2: Noah Rife, Nico Moreno. We'll be back in a few

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Speaker 2: minutes and maybe we'll end Ari speak, maybe we'll we'll

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Speaker 2: Wrapping up things here on a season ending edition of

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Speaker 2: Sounders Weekly. We have a special roundtable here talking about

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Speaker 2: the season ending in penalty kicks in Game three of

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Speaker 2: the first round at Minnesota. Maybe we'll finish this live

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Speaker 2: show here coming up in a few minutes, and then

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Speaker 2: Are you guys continuing that through the playoffs as well?

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Speaker 5: Oh for sure?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, so that's still going.

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Speaker 2: On also anders Hurst and myself Jackson Felts, we hear

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Speaker 2: from KJR as we continue on the roundtable, Ari, let's

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Speaker 2: actually get back to you now and we'll let you well,

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Speaker 2: I think you're on kind of the right track, and

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Speaker 2: you know the bit aside, I think there are so

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Speaker 2: many other roster questions as you're beginning to talk about,

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Speaker 2: and one of the big ones is Paul Rothrock.

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Speaker 3: But there's even more questions than just Paul Rothrock.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so the Paul Rothrock one is a very interesting

768
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Speaker 4: situation because what you have is, you guys know how

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Speaker 4: much money he made this year. I don't even think

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Speaker 4: that it was more. It was closer to like one

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Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars probably worth six six hundred sounds about

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Speaker 4: right to me.

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Speaker 3: Well, so this is the question.

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Speaker 4: You have a situation where the gap between what he

775
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 4: actually was getting paid and how he produced on the field,

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Speaker 4: and just as part of kind of like the heart

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Speaker 4: and soul of the team. It just vastly exceeds what

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Speaker 4: he was making. He's due for a big raise, and frankly,

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Speaker 4: he played at a level where there's probably a lot

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Speaker 4: of teams in MLS that would pay him a lot

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Speaker 4: more to do what he does than Seattle was paying him.

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Speaker 4: So it's just a question of how much is that

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Speaker 4: worth to Seattle, And uh, you know, I think he

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Speaker 4: demonstrated a lot of worth this year, and it just

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Speaker 4: it's just going to depend if the club agrees with

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Speaker 4: the valuation that he has of himself, that his agent

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Speaker 4: has of him and is going to present for that.

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Speaker 4: So that's I would love to be on a fly

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Speaker 4: on the wall for those negotiations because those those can

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Speaker 4: get contentious when there's that much distance between what he was,

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Speaker 4: what he was making, and what he wants to make.

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Speaker 4: But Guys, I think the uh even more interesting than that,

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Speaker 4: or maybe uh not more interesting, but equally consequential is

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Speaker 4: the situation with Danny Mussovski as well.

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Speaker 3: I think that's one that's.

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Speaker 4: One that I see a little bit differently than I

797
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Speaker 4: for sure see it a little differently than Nico, But

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Speaker 4: I think I see it a little differently than uh,

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Speaker 4: than a lot of people, and I'll be interested to

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Speaker 4: see what they do there, because you want to talk

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Speaker 4: about a guy who overperformed expectations. I don't know if

802
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 4: I've seen a player in MLS in the last five

803
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Speaker 4: years that had a more out of nowhere breakout year

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Speaker 4: in the way that, Yeah, it's ridiculous like the guy uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, I think we've been talking about it like

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Speaker 4: it's this foregone conclusion that he's gonna get moved or

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Speaker 4: get traded, because you know, the thinking goes, when someone

808
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: is coming off their best season that's kind of unprecedented,

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Speaker 4: that's the best time to sell. That's when they're at

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Speaker 4: their peak value. Moose is definitely in that situation, and

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Speaker 4: I have just been wary of making it that simple

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Speaker 4: when you're talking about I mean, it's information that I

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Speaker 4: also don't know what to do with. But when you

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Speaker 4: look at Moose's his his goal production this year and

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Speaker 4: all his underlying numbers and how efficient he was, we're talking.

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Speaker 4: The list of guys that we were talking that he

817
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Speaker 4: was with is guys literally like Sam Surage, Alonso Martinez,

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Speaker 4: all at Danny Mussovsky.

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Speaker 3: Like, that's that's what we're talking about here.

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Speaker 4: But I think I think the way that it gets

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Speaker 4: talked about sometimes it gets colored by the fact that

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Speaker 4: we're talking about a guy that we're talking about Danny Musovsky,

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Speaker 4: you know, MLS journey Man. But you also you can't

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Speaker 4: just dismiss what he did this year and assume you're

825
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Speaker 4: gonna be able to easily replace that.

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Speaker 3: I would be careful about that assumption like that.

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Speaker 4: I feel like that is something that's getting taken as

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Speaker 4: a given that is not necessarily a given.

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Speaker 3: If what Moose did this year was that easy.

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Speaker 4: Then Emmanuel Latte Loth would have had more than seven

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Speaker 4: goals for Atlanta United.

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Speaker 3: Like it may may it's plug and play.

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Speaker 4: Maybe what Osase did shows that you can put any

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Speaker 4: old nine in there and they'll they'll do the same thing.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 4: And the other thing I would say about that is

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Speaker 4: people have said that, you know, this was very clearly

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Speaker 4: an outlier year from Moose, and the odds that he's

839
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Speaker 4: going to replicate this type of year again are it's

840
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Speaker 4: like impossible for him to do it again. I don't

841
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 4: know if we know that, because he never got a

842
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 4: full compliment of minutes in MLS before they gave him

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00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 4: that role this year. So that's more of a function

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Speaker 4: to me of the fact that he never got to

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Speaker 4: He could have been this good the whole time and

846
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Speaker 4: have been the next Wando. We don't know, but I'm

847
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Speaker 4: not saying that's the case. But you can't look at

848
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Speaker 4: what he did this year and say that that's like

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Speaker 4: an easy decision to move off him, no matter how

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Speaker 4: much value he has.

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Speaker 2: Really quick banders, before you jump in, I will say

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Speaker 2: that we have five minutes left in the show. We're

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Speaker 2: going to do some extra content that will go up

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Speaker 2: on the podcast page, but we'll continue this conversation here

855
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: on the air right now with this topic of Danny Muszowski,

856
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: Paul Rothrock and what to do with them.

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Speaker 6: Let's keep it with Moose because I think there's a

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Speaker 6: lot of different angles you can take on this. For me, again,

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00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 6: I'm gonna keep banging the horn that I'm not someone

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00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 6: who's you know, going to practices every day. Can see

861
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 6: what they bring besides what you see on the tape

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00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 6: the club, yes.

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00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: Almost, if not every single game, yever, you know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So my biggest question is what does he bring

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Speaker 6: this team? And I think the biggest answer is goal scoring,

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Speaker 6: and that's something that is incredibly valuable, especially to the Sounders,

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Speaker 6: who took a big step offensively forward. We've talked about

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Speaker 6: it earlier on this episode from twenty twenty four to

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: I think he was a big part of that.

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Speaker 6: Now, how many guys do you think you could put

872
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Speaker 6: into Danny Vessovsky's shoes and replicate exactly what he did

873
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 6: or possibly even more with what is around him at

874
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 6: this level? I think what the results that he had,

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Speaker 6: and again I'm not gonna discount the guy that's there

876
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 6: to finish it off every single time. Right, That's that's

877
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 6: a very important skill that I think is actually dying

878
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 6: today's soccer is the goal scoring aspect, getting into the box,

879
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 6: dirty goals, all the stuff we talk about all the time.

880
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 6: But I think the reflection of the uptick and goal

881
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 6: scoring for both Musovski and the Sounders has a bigger

882
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 6: impact or sorry, was impacted more by everything else that

883
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 6: was around him more than Mussovski himself taking this giant

884
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 6: step forward as a player. So that's my biggest thing

885
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 6: with this. Now that doesn't mean that you can put

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00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 6: someone else into his like a bunch of anyone into

887
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 6: his shoes, and you will get the same results. But

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Speaker 6: I struggle to think that his value is exactly what

889
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 6: he showed this year in terms of his goal output.

890
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 6: I think it's as contextualized as it's ever going to

891
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 6: be right now, because I think the Sounders as a

892
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 6: team provided much more offense, much more scoring opportunities that

893
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 6: he was there to pounce on and be a part of.

894
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 6: So that's just my take. I'm interested to know what

895
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 6: you guys think about this as well.

896
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 7: Listen, No, hey, Danny Musovsky did great this season. Jordan

897
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 7: Moore's in his position, probably scores double the amount of goals,

898
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Speaker 7: and I truly believe that. Whoa like, I'm sorry six?

899
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Speaker 5: Why not?

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00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 7: Why can't Jordan score thirty?

901
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: So it's a little MLS record?

902
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 7: Why not?

903
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 6: Well, it's actually interesting conversation because yeah, don't be Yeah, yeah,

904
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Speaker 6: we want to talk about that a little bit after.

905
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Speaker 7: We'll hit that after. Yeah. So I'm I'm I'm listen.

906
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Speaker 7: I like Moose, I'm out on Moose. What I'm more

907
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 7: interested in is the Paul Rothrock and Ryan Kent. Are

908
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 7: we going to see them both back on the field.

909
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 7: I think that the Sounders are going to have to

910
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 7: make a decision between one or the other. And if

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00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 7: it's me, I'm picking Paul Rothrock and on toss with

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Speaker 7: an Eco.

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00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Denny with Sevsky, situation is simple. You need to

915
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 8: get better at that position and he's the odd man out.

916
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Speaker 8: He's gonna be thirty. He's never had a season like

917
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 8: this one, whether it was an outlier or not. Jeremy

918
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 8: Lane was a hell of a player for one season

919
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 8: as well.

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Speaker 7: Yes, most sanity.

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Speaker 9: That's just the way I see it.

922
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Speaker 8: And as someone who is consistently on the training field,

923
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Speaker 8: I just don't know how much more he can give you.

924
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 8: And look, you keep him for one more year, that's fine.

925
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Speaker 8: If you think he's going to be a contributor, you

926
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Speaker 8: pick up that option. And then if you want to

927
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Speaker 8: pick up that option and then sell the stock while

928
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Speaker 8: is high and somebody's willing to buy it, then oh good.

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Speaker 8: I just don't think that you add on to that.

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Speaker 8: You just keep it for what it is. I also

931
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Speaker 8: think that it's a good point when he comes to

932
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Speaker 8: Ryan Kent, I haven't seen enough. I didn't see enough

933
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Speaker 8: in the last Minnesota game. I think he could be

934
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Speaker 8: on his way. Paul's situation, it is going to be

935
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Speaker 8: a number thing. I would love to keep him because

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Speaker 8: he's a great guy for the system, but I just

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Speaker 8: don't know if he will be here next season.

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Speaker 2: For me, if I'm Paul Rothrock and Wybel came to

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Speaker 2: me with a let's just say one point eight million

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Speaker 2: over three years, and there's escalators if I hit certain

941
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Speaker 2: numbers of goals and assists that I could escalate that

942
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Speaker 2: one to, like, you know, to two point two to

943
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Speaker 2: two point four.

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Speaker 3: That's a deal.

945
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: If I'm Paul Rothrock, that makes a ton of sense. Uh,

946
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: we'll just see if that happens. What those numbers are.

947
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: I don't have no idea about those negoti siations. But

948
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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I think that that

949
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: number makes a lot of sense, and we'll see. Ryan Kent,

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00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: I would agree with you guys as well. I hope

951
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: he found his love for soccer back when he was here.

952
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: He clearly lost his love for soccer on Marino where

953
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: he was playing out in there.

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Speaker 5: In then such cases, so.

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Speaker 8: If he wants to come in on a on a

956
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 8: big discount, then sure, but yeah, he'd have to be

957
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 8: like five to six hundred at the most to keep it.

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Speaker 7: I'm excited for gimme poulaiol.

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00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's let's hand things off.

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Speaker 2: Keey Dunning's gonna have Rain weekly, wrapping up the rain season.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next here on Sports Radio ninety three point

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Speaker 3: We're probably this Normally we.

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Speaker 2: Post Sounders weekly around what eight thirty PM when I

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Speaker 2: ate forty five when I get home, So that's gonna

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Speaker 2: be up a little bit later on tonight because we're

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Speaker 2: gonna go jump in a recording studio and pretty much

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Speaker 2: keep talking till our mouths fall off. Ari Lulian Wall

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Speaker 2: anders Hurst, Noah Rife, Nico Moreno. My name is Jackson

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Speaker 2: thanks so much for listening. A couple final notes before

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Speaker 2: For a continuation of this show on the Sounders Weekly

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Speaker 2: podcast page. We thank you all for an amazing Sounders season,

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00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: thanks to Kiley Dunning, thanks to Danny Jackson, Pete Fieing

981
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: everybody with our Sounders broadcast crew, Jordan Thompson, I could

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Speaker 2: go on and on with about one hundred names. They

983
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Speaker 2: are all spectacular humans and it's been an honor to

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Speaker 2: work with them here in twenty twenty five. Cheers to

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, and we will talk to you guys

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Speaker 2: on the podcast conversion. Here is Sounders Weekly coming up,

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Speaker 2: but for right here and right now here on KJR

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Speaker 2: it's Rain Weekly coming up next on ninety three point

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Speaker 1: Now back to Sounders Weekly on your home for Sounders

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Speaker 3: Now we're off live radio. Now we're doing the podcast.

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Speaker 2: We should swear no damn well, technically that's uh no,

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Speaker 2: we are. We are doing the Sounders season ending show

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Speaker 2: and roundtable Jackson Feldts, Ari Lillenwell and Nico Rife.

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Speaker 5: Rife.

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Speaker 2: We're out there, Ari, Leenwall and Noa Rife of the

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Speaker 2: listening to this right now as we are now off

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Speaker 2: live radio where we just finished the show, and here

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Speaker 2: we are in the time where we can do fun things.

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Speaker 2: We also have Nico Moreno. Shouldn't call them no Nico

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Speaker 2: Moreno course Polso Sounder. Hey really quick because I missed

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Speaker 2: this and this is my bad. Everybody talk about where

1006
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Speaker 2: you can find you on social media and where you

1007
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Speaker 2: can they can find all your content Ari and then

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Speaker 2: go around.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, the big one for us is subscribe to

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Speaker 4: the Lobbing Scorchers YouTube. You can also follow us on

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Speaker 4: Instagram and TikTok. We've been a lot more active on

1012
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: those this season. But subscribe to the utube and then yeah,

1013
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 4: you can also follow me on Blue Sky. I switch

1014
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 4: from Twitter, Ari Lilliam wall On on there, but uh no.

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Speaker 3: Just subscribe to the Lobby Scorches YouTube.

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Speaker 9: That's all you gotta do.

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Speaker 6: Anderson Hurst is my name, ANDREWS Hurst on X If

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Speaker 6: I'm still on there with everything up, I don't really post,

1019
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Speaker 6: I just yeah anyways, but Anderson Hurst Blue Sky, I

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Speaker 6: don't really have any general soccer content, so I'll just

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Speaker 6: say to subscribe to Lobby Scorches with and Sounder at

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Speaker 6: Heart with Nico.

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Speaker 2: Moreno, let me also say one to three pm kJ

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Speaker 2: every single day, the InferNET Show, and.

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Speaker 6: A lot of other stuff, because you know, the Sounders

1026
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Speaker 6: get a ton of love here in the Seattle sports market.

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Speaker 3: So no, go ahead.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you can find me on Blue Sky at I

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Speaker 7: just take dot photos. Also, I'm just a guy who

1030
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Speaker 7: loves to talk about the Sounders on lobbing scorches. So

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Speaker 7: follow us on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Blue Sky and whatever

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Speaker 3: Yo, we're now on the radio.

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Speaker 7: Let's go in school radio, and you know I'll say hi, Dad,

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Speaker 7: thank you. I'm so glad you're listening. My dad used

1036
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Speaker 7: to make me listen to kJ R coming back from

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Speaker 7: school every single day, and so now I get to

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Speaker 7: torture him back.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Nico love it, man.

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Speaker 8: I love KJR me too, and I literally I've told

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Speaker 8: this to Jackson many times. I used to listen to

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Speaker 8: Softy and I try to be softly. When I started

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Speaker 8: in radio in Spanish, I was like the softy right

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Speaker 8: the way he Actually I had on in Spanish and

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Speaker 8: I would take callers. I mean, he was amazing. Anyways, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I told him the story too.

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Speaker 9: I was that guy. If you're upset that I skipped

1048
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Speaker 9: your avert, but that was me.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 8: But Nicom Morano at l Rolo and w on all socials.

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Speaker 8: You could find me on of course Monday with a

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Speaker 8: wall on uh love Schooch. Kickoff on Thursdays with John

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Speaker 8: Nelson on Soccker down Here that's from seven thirty to

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Speaker 8: fifteen twenty, divining how much how long we go there?

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Speaker 8: And then Fridays of course with Jeremiah Shannon what we

1056
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Speaker 8: learned this week.

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Speaker 3: And the Soger down here's in Atlanta. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1058
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Speaker 3: it's tough.

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Speaker 8: They go national, but it's uh, it's yeah, I know,

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Speaker 8: it's there's been a couple of tough, tough years.

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Speaker 9: Uh and you.

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Speaker 7: Really love to hate to see it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, uh you know, Okay, I'm gonna be the one,

1064
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Speaker 2: uh to do this.

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Speaker 3: I will.

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Speaker 5: I will.

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Speaker 2: On a very very serious note, really quick thoughts to

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Speaker 2: Garth log Away oh and his family and everything that

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Speaker 2: he's battling. He's battling cancer and we know that Atlanta

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Speaker 2: has you know, has people stepping up here and there too.

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Speaker 2: But that is the president now of Atlanta United, and

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Speaker 2: he's in he's in the fight for his life and

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Speaker 2: uh he's he's fighting hard and he's doing good from

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Speaker 2: when when I've talked to him, and uh yeah, we

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Speaker 2: just we send the absolute best to Garth Logway.

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Speaker 3: It's been a very very, very tough year for Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: United, and it's just it's compounded by his and what

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Speaker 2: he's going through.

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Speaker 3: So the best of Garth's on Atlanta.

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Speaker 9: One of the best guys, by the way, is so nice.

1081
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 9: I literally would go to war for Garth.

1082
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 8: He said, Nico, I need you to get somebody's knees

1083
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 8: like I'm getting somebody's knees. That's that kind of guy

1084
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 8: he was. He is Jesus he is.

1085
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: He absolutely is the greatest. We love you, Garth. I

1086
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 3: hope you're doing better.

1087
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: All right, Let's get back into the sounder conversation, shall we,

1088
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: because I don't know how long we're gonna go. We're

1089
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: just gonna talk talk, talk and have some fun here.

1090
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: Let's get back. And you said you wanted to start this.

1091
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what direction you're going, but go ahead.

1092
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 6: Well it's we kind of just tiptoed into the Danny

1093
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 6: Mussovski striker. I'll throw Jordan Morris into that conversation as well,

1094
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 6: and I think Noah eloquently said as what I think

1095
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 6: a lot of Sounders fans would feel that is, if

1096
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 6: if Jordan Morris was healthy all year, he would provide

1097
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 6: the same, if not better results than Danny Musoski gave you.

1098
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna pose that to the room. Do you

1099
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 6: think that's true? Because I don't think it's a coincidence

1100
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 6: personally that you had a lot a lot more success offensively.

1101
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 6: And I think Jordan Morris looked more comfortable when he

1102
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 6: was on the right hand side of the field. I

1103
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 6: think when you look at the physical attributes, I still

1104
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 6: think Jordan Morris is a better.

1105
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 5: Player, but everything is there.

1106
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 6: But for whatever reason, he looks more comfortable on the

1107
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 6: wing kind of being more of a take people on,

1108
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 6: put service into the box and be a kind of

1109
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 6: a goal threat in that aspect versus what I think

1110
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 6: made Danny Mussovsky so effective in this specific system is

1111
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 6: he didn't care about any of that. He just wanted

1112
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 6: to get into the box and you know, finish it.

1113
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:36,959
Speaker 3: Off.

1114
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 6: So I'm just curious what you guys think. I'm gonna

1115
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 6: pose it to the rest of the room, Like, not

1116
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 6: even just that specific question, but do you think that

1117
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 6: Danny Mussovsky's skill set is easily replicable in house with

1118
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 6: Saya Jordan Morris.

1119
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 4: See, I'm I'm I know, I'm all alone on this,

1120
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 4: but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that Jordan

1121
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 4: Morris would have had a thirty plus goal season.

1122
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: If he was playing all season play well.

1123
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 4: But I think that I think what is crazy about

1124
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 4: the year that Moose had is he was producing at

1125
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 4: the level and with the efficiency that we were used

1126
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 4: to seeing from Jordan when he is playing every every week.

1127
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 4: So you know, I hear what Noah and Nico are

1128
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: are saying. But when when you dismissed the year that

1129
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 4: Moose had as linsanity run insanity was like two weeks

1130
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 4: in all seriousness. The thing that I think is wild

1131
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 4: about the year that Moose just had is that there

1132
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 4: was no point during this entire season, in any competition

1133
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 4: against any opponent where it didn't work, where when they

1134
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 4: put him out there he was scoring, where he was

1135
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 4: scoring goals. He's the only one who scored in CONCACAF

1136
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 4: Champions Cup. He was banging in goals in League's Cup,

1137
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 4: as like Anderson mentioned, as soon as they put him

1138
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 4: on the field in that series against Minnesota United, the

1139
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 4: entire offense changed. They scored all seven of their goals.

1140
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 4: I just I'm not as quick to fully dismiss that

1141
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 4: and say that's easily replaceable, because I've seen a lot

1142
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 4: of situations where teams think that something is easily replaceable

1143
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 4: and then it turns out not to be.

1144
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 3: And I think the question you got to ask.

1145
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 4: Yourself if you're dismissing it as insanity, is would you

1146
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 4: be saying that if his name was Sam Surriage, would

1147
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 4: you be saying that if his name was Alonzo Martinez.

1148
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 3: It's the production isn't any less.

1149
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 4: It's not any different or less impressive because his name

1150
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 4: is Danny Mussovski and not Sam Surge. He was scoring

1151
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 4: goals at the same rate with the same efficiency as

1152
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 4: those guys this year. It's as mind blowing to me

1153
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 4: as it is anybody else.

1154
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 3: But that's what he just did.

1155
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 4: So if you think you're just going to go out

1156
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 4: and find somebody who to upgrade on that type of production.

1157
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 4: I don't know about that, and I think the again,

1158
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 4: the idea that it's a total outlier, I don't know.

1159
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 4: I just don't know if that can be known for sure,

1160
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 4: because he never played a full compliment of.

1161
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 7: Minutes before this year, and then he did this, So

1162
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 7: that's I just think you're missing the forest for the

1163
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 7: trees here. And I think Nico said it the best.

1164
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 7: It's like you have a thirty year old dude who

1165
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 7: this is the first time in his career he's finally

1166
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 7: gotten minutes. It is undeniable that the people around him

1167
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 7: and the team around him is one of the best

1168
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 7: attacking teams, the best attacking system in the entire league.

1169
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 7: If you put Jordan Morris in his position, maybe he

1170
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 7: doesn't score a double, I'll give you that, but he's

1171
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 7: gonna at least have the same number as him. There's

1172
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 7: no way you look, you put you put Osase in this.

1173
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 7: You brought this up exactly. You put Osase in there

1174
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 7: after Moose famously crashed out crash out red card of

1175
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 7: the year. By the way that he in no Sase

1176
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 7: did it in two games. You don't win that without Osaz.

1177
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm I don't understand. It's it's not to

1178
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 7: discount the season that Moose has had. It's the reality

1179
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 7: of looking forward. There are a lot of players that

1180
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 7: are better than him, a lot of players that are

1181
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 7: better at them.

1182
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 2: So before Nico you jump in, I didn't think I

1183
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 2: was going to be on your side of this, but

1184
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: I would throw this in there. How many times did

1185
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: Moose get himself in a good and that listen, it

1186
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 2: is a quality to get himself in a dangerous position.

1187
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: He got himself in many, many dangerous positions. He did

1188
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: a great job of that. But let's look at you know,

1189
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: the end of game one, not twenty minutes. He has

1190
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: two massive chances. If Jordan is on the end of

1191
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: that and he gets the cross from I don't know, Rothrock, Ferreira,

1192
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: Albert whoever. If he gets those crosses, does Jordan score

1193
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 2: one or both of those two chances at the end of.

1194
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 3: That game one?

1195
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 2: I mean, like, we know he's good in his head,

1196
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 2: we know he's good right in front of goal. I

1197
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: would like to think that if Jordan got that kind

1198
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 2: of placement right in front of goal. And my point

1199
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 2: with that is this is that there was a lot

1200
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: of opportunities this season where Danny Mazowski had a chance

1201
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 2: on goal and he didn't get it.

1202
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 7: He looks terrible in the first half of the season.

1203
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 7: Why are we not talking about that?

1204
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 3: He had a lot of chances.

1205
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 9: That's what it didn't hit.

1206
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 3: So I mean to say that Jordan would have gotten

1207
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 3: the same amount of goals.

1208
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: I kind of would believe that, but it's just it's

1209
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 2: so hard to say.

1210
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 3: Nico go Ahead.

1211
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:49,959
Speaker 9: Already said that it doesn't matter.

1212
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 8: That is Danny Massovski the name at the end of

1213
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 8: all the texts, But it doesn't matter because Danny Massowski

1214
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 8: is the player who's been in the league seven years,

1215
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 8: three different teams, and this is the.

1216
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 9: Very first time that he has fourteen goals.

1217
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 8: He's literally scored more than half of the goals that

1218
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 8: he's had in his own career this year. So that's

1219
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 8: the reason why it matters, because Sam Surage has certainly

1220
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 8: not had that sort of not lucky for no goal

1221
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 8: because he is a different talent.

1222
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 9: The reality is this.

1223
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 8: I don't want to be seemed as if I'm trying

1224
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 8: to just knock this guy down when he's had such

1225
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 8: a great season, But I'm being forced to just put

1226
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 8: the reality that he's a limited soccer player, and I'm

1227
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 8: not so worried about him just pushing the ball in

1228
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 8: the back of the net like he just did it

1229
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 8: against Minnesota. He was lucky enough that the defender missed

1230
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 8: a clearance that you me, Ari, probably half of the

1231
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 8: people in this office will be able to just clear.

1232
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 9: That ball of it.

1233
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 8: You know what, I guarantee you that Softy guests to

1234
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 8: that ball. So that's the kind of luck that he's had.

1235
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 9: And luck is great.

1236
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 8: Look, luck is part of being a poacher because that's

1237
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 8: the top of a striker that he's he's a poacher striker.

1238
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 8: But it's hard to replicate. I'm not saying that it

1239
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 8: will happen again. I'm gonna say that he won't happen again.

1240
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 8: I'm not saying that. But the probabilities are very low,

1241
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 8: and we're in a business where you have to be

1242
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 8: able to move players when they're in this sort of

1243
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 8: heat is strict, especially when the data tells.

1244
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 9: You that this is very only that's not what the data.

1245
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 4: What the data said about Moose and why the Sounders

1246
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 4: signed him, is that the data said this guy is

1247
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 4: an extremely efficient and underrated MLS striker. That's never that

1248
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 4: has never gotten a.

1249
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 3: Full cost start up minutes before, and.

1250
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 4: If we give him a full compliment of minutes, he'll

1251
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 4: probably produce as as he probably could of his entire

1252
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 4: career if he had got if he'd been playing all

1253
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 4: these minutes all his career and not producing, I would, uh,

1254
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:51,959
Speaker 4: I would agree with what you're saying.

1255
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 3: But he wasn't. The reason he wasn't scored is because

1256
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 3: he wasn't playing, not because he.

1257
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 8: Played one thousand plus minutes in our cell and he

1258
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 8: had any five goals. That that's not great, not to

1259
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 8: mention the fact that he was here last year and.

1260
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 9: Couldn't buy a goal.

1261
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 8: I saw this guy literally literally be unable to buy

1262
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 8: a goal, hit practice or on the field last year,

1263
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 8: and that's just the way it was. However, however, again

1264
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 8: I want to give him his due credit this year

1265
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 8: for being a guy that found his groove, was able

1266
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 8: to put it into work. He got into all the

1267
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 8: right spaces, and I think that even in the games

1268
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 8: where I thought he was modest this whole series, you know,

1269
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 8: he created some havoc. He was able to allow Jordan

1270
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 8: to do other things. But I also wanted this credit

1271
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 8: Jordan who I've seen grow as a true nine in

1272
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 8: his liku up play, playing with the goal behind his back,

1273
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 8: being a guy that's good on pressure, way more effective

1274
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 8: than Themnskin.

1275
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 9: In that area.

1276
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 8: Just there's just so many more things about Jordan Moores

1277
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 8: as a nine that I feel like a lot of

1278
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 8: people are discounting.

1279
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: Danny Maczowski twenty twenty three with Salt Lake. He played

1280
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: in twenty four games, he had fourteen starts, he did

1281
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: score five goals. But Nico wasn't a thousand minutes. It

1282
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: was twelve hundred minutes. Yeah, so even a bigger point,

1283
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: and go on to.

1284
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 6: Me, it's I don't want to get into this, like

1285
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 6: is Danny Mussovsky the guy like rightly evaluated or not?

1286
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 6: To me, this is a bigger conversation about what kind

1287
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 6: of player at the nine position works for the Seattle

1288
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 6: great point, because I think you put it really well there,

1289
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 6: Nico that because he's a poacher with everything that's around him,

1290
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 6: how many chances they create, that's the kind of player

1291
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 6: you need. Now you can get that kind of production,

1292
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 6: maybe even more production from another poacher type player. But

1293
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,959
Speaker 6: I don't think Jordan Morris is necessarily the poacher type

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Speaker 6: of striker. He likes to play getting in behind a

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01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 6: little bit more. He likes to play on the run,

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Speaker 6: likes to kind of be a part of the flow

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Speaker 6: of things. Danny Mussovski doesn't need that. He just wants

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Speaker 6: to be in the box, ready to finish off chances

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Speaker 6: that are given to him, just kind of make the

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Speaker 6: most instead of the opportunities that are given to him.

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Speaker 6: And that's why I think that this marriage works in

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Speaker 6: this last year. I don't know if that means that

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Speaker 6: you need to keep Danny mus.

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Speaker 7: Time for a divorce.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if that means you need to keep

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Speaker 6: Musovski here now to keep that production moving forward. But

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Speaker 6: I think it tells you that that type of player

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Speaker 6: at the nine position is something that the sounders need

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01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 6: to look for more of.

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Speaker 5: And that's why I'm not.

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Speaker 6: Saying that the same type of player that's this, but

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Speaker 6: they're the same type of player, not the same level

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Speaker 6: of player.

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Speaker 5: It's very similar to what ral Ruid has in his prime.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think and I said this, and obviously it

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Speaker 8: didn't get a chance to contextualize it because we're at

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Speaker 8: the end of the show of the live show. But

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Speaker 8: he's the odd man out just because of the contracts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 3: Four hundred thousand.

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Speaker 8: I think for Danny well, not just that, it's just

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Speaker 8: the length of the right. Jordan Moore is going to

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Speaker 8: be here because of contract for many more so is

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Speaker 8: Osa if you want to get better at that position.

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Speaker 8: He's the odd man out now his suits. I mean,

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Speaker 8: I guess you could say he's more of a winger

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01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 8: these days, more of a creative player. So that's fine.

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01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 8: So maybe that U twenty two that you do bring

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Speaker 8: in takes that spot and it allows moves to stay.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what bringing you twenty two this winter?

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Speaker 8: I don't know if this winter. I would hope that

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Speaker 8: this winter. But the guy that I think that following

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Speaker 8: might only be available.

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Speaker 9: In the summer.

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Speaker 2: What do you think they do this winter? That is

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Speaker 2: a very Can you share anything about that?

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Speaker 8: I cannot share anything because there is a bit of

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01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 8: a right now because of what you guys might have

1339
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 8: heard about the Sounders looking for investors. I think that

1340
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:47,479
Speaker 8: there is going to be some fluctuation on how things work.

1341
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 8: I think that depending on what happens, that could move

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Speaker 8: the way things would.

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Speaker 9: Usually work with the Sounders.

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Speaker 8: So I would like to just say that there's nothing

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Speaker 8: that I'm willing to share right now because he would

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01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 8: be He just will be wrong.

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Speaker 3: Anybody have anything left to say on the Mazofsky Morris topic.

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Speaker 4: I mean just that I'm not even I'm not even

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01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 4: necessarily saying that I wouldn't trade Moose. I get the

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Speaker 4: theory behind it. I think it's what they probably will do.

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Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just cautioning against the the narrative that

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Speaker 4: he's going to be so easily replaced, or that it

1353
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 4: was insanity. I've seen a lot of situations that might

1354
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 4: seem like that, and then be careful what you wish

1355
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 4: for it because it can be harder to replace than

1356
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Speaker 4: than you think. And fourteen goals for assists, I don't know,

1357
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 4: that's not insanity.

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Speaker 6: And especially the makeup of this team, I just feel

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Speaker 6: like you put it very well with Haysis Frere. He

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Speaker 6: had a great season, but it just seems like they

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Speaker 6: have a lack of players that are just pure nines

1362
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Speaker 6: that just.

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Speaker 3: And if you need a poach or just go sign

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Speaker 3: Holland that's true, there you go.

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Speaker 7: But I mean you lost that one or it's all

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Speaker 7: the situation, like you know, like Chris Wood, like, I

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Speaker 7: think that's that's we've got to think about it. Right,

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Speaker 7: you bring him back? Does he do it again?

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Speaker 8: And that's the thing I'm not even thinking about it

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Speaker 8: be hard to replace him?

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Speaker 9: Is can he replace himself?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 9: Exactly can again?

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Speaker 5: But just I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so that's I understand why it's hard

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01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 4: to believe. But I think I think that is coming

1378
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 4: from a place of like, I just refuse to believe

1379
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 4: Danny Mussovsky is capable of this again more than it

1380
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 4: is about as a player on the field.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I saw what he did in the games.

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Speaker 7: So okay, San jose hit our line.

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Speaker 2: He's for sale San Diego their aging, you know, strikers

1384
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 2: with Joe, he's a very he's a very valuable asset.

1385
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Speaker 3: That it makes a lot of sense.

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01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: Tasa Martinez going back to Atlanta. Is Joseph Martinez going

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Speaker 2: to join him? Nico absolutely, Yeah, that makes the lost sense. Well,

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Speaker 2: any of you idiots please answer my question of if

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Speaker 2: you got a number of X for Obed argust, I

1390
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: would say yes to it and end all other talks.

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Speaker 3: Nobody answered that question.

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Speaker 5: Million twelve twelve twelve, K.

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Speaker 7: I don't, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to say eight is the number. Wow, I'm

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01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 8: going to say eight is the number. And that's because

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Speaker 8: Europe is the the ticket, right, Yeah. European teams have

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01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 8: the unique privilege to say, like Jackson, I'm going to

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01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 8: give you aid because I'm Chelsea or I'm Arsenal or

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Speaker 8: I'm Crystal Palace.

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Speaker 9: I mean for adults. Wow, Okay, you don't like for seconds? Yeah,

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01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 9: definitely not guy myself.

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01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 8: But I'm just saying European teams a lot of times

1403
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 8: are going to low bow you because they do have

1404
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 8: the ability to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an interesting point there.

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Speaker 8: Now, if you want to go to Mexico, it'd be different.

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01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 8: You get fifteen, eighteen twenty. She lets be willing to

1408
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 8: just throw whatever you want them to get him.

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Speaker 6: Mat what's the lowest number, oh, Bed would say yes

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01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 6: to over a contract extension over Seattle.

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Speaker 8: It can be less than a million, I mean, is

1412
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 8: the max of the U twenty two?

1413
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 9: That that's he would not take a dollar less? Should he?

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01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 7: No? Should? I really wanted to quick creiate.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to also.

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01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 2: So this is the podcast version, so we can go

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01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 2: a little more off the rails here, we're on the

1418
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 2: rails right now.

1419
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 3: I want to go a little little more off the rails.

1420
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: And and you'll understand what I mean by that when

1421
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 2: I asked this question, because there's there's certain topics that

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Speaker 2: that I think are topics for air and there's certain

1423
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: topics I think we can hit right now, which is

1424
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: I think a good spot for this which is a

1425
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 2: big conversation amongst Sounder fans on every social media platform. Nico,

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01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 2: you mentioned the news and it's no secret everybody knows

1427
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 2: it from the press. Lee's they're looking for outside investors.

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01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 2: The Sounders are looking for a influx of money. And

1429
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 2: inside of that and I think everybody's reading into that

1430
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 2: is the element of looking into a soccer specific stadium,

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01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 2: and that has been no secret that they are looking

1432
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 2: at that. We've had Hugh Weber on our President's Day

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01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 2: show on KGr with Softy and myself for three years now,

1434
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 2: two years now, and he's made it clear they're interested

1435
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 2: in a soccer specific stadium. Now, if that does happen

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01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 2: in Renton, near the long Acre's facility, I think the

1437
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 2: question needs to be asked and we can kind of

1438
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 2: go around and Nicolson will go opposite way is how

1439
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 2: would you respond to that the Sounders investing, getting that

1440
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: finance social situation figured out, and saying, all right, we're

1441
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 2: doing it. We're building a SSS near the Long Acres

1442
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 2: facility in Renton for our own twenty eight, twenty six,

1443
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, one thousand seat house, four sounders for

1444
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 2: rain for our product. How would you feel about how

1445
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 2: do you think people would feel about that? That?

1446
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 3: And we can kind of go around the room.

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01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 8: This is a big deal, And let me just start

1448
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 8: by saying that, I think that the way that the

1449
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 8: press release was sent by the team, the Sportaco article,

1450
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 8: they're just like the top of the glacier. I think

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01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 8: that this is a big deal. I think that we're

1452
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 8: among a change of substantial ownership. I don't think this

1453
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 8: is small. I really do think that if you're hoping

1454
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 8: that somebody's gonna come in and help you build the stadium,

1455
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 8: and that is going to be I don't know, thirty million,

1456
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 8: forty million, I'm obviously low balling here, but you're gonna

1457
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 8: want a lot of stake of that team. So let

1458
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 8: me just start by saying that. Now, when it comes

1459
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 8: to the stadium situation. I also feel like it's a

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01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 8: big deal and it's a huge decision, and there's a

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01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 8: lot of ways to look at it. To me, and

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01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 8: I'll try to be very concise here, the Sounders need

1463
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 8: to be in Seattle, and it's about the experience. It's

1464
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 8: about being part of the city, is about everything that

1465
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 8: the people that are embedded into this team have lived

1466
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 8: from the point that this team went into the MLS

1467
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 8: since there was that first game. People love and they

1468
01:08:54,479 --> 01:09:00,839
Speaker 8: see everything about game Day and they have it with Seattle.

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01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 8: But I think that if you're able to do something

1470
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 8: that is like a Sounder's Mecca at Renton, where you

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01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 8: don't have any restrictions and you could have I would

1472
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Speaker 8: think at least a thirty eight thousand to forty thousand

1473
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 8: person stadium is maybe that's too much, but that's the

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01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 8: way I would like to see it. And you could

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01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 8: put it there and you can create a real atmosphere

1476
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 8: where there's statues in a museum and everything that brings

1477
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 8: you into this Sounders world, then maybe that would be

1478
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 8: a situation that works. But what you don't want is

1479
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 8: to do the bare minimum and take him to Renton,

1480
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 8: because that would be a swing and a miss, and

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01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 8: you would almost decimate the truthful, honest, red blooded. I

1482
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 8: am all about the Sounders typ of fan base, which

1483
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 8: is what they're built on.

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01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 7: It's I don't know. I have a lot of things

1485
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,799
Speaker 7: to say about this, but I'll start with the building

1486
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 7: a a mecca for soccer in a suburban town. Let

1487
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 7: me tell you who's done that. FC Dallas, Frisco, Texas.

1488
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 7: You don't want to know what the worst stadium in

1489
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 7: the entire league is fall Firstco Texas. There it is.

1490
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 7: It is not enjoyable. There are more parking lots than

1491
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 7: there are places to eat. It's ridiculous, no one, no one.

1492
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 7: It's far away from Dallas. It's in the burbs. And yes,

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01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 7: Frisco is a growing city and they're able to have

1494
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 7: their land and they're able to do whatever they want there.

1495
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 7: And I understand that the stadium is old out there

1496
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 7: as well, but it's ridiculous. You should be in the

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01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 7: city of Seattle. There is. There is not good public

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01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 7: transit out to Renton. That's the reality. Ari and I

1499
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 7: we both will take the bus or the train in

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01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 7: to the game every single time. You know, I just

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01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 7: it's it is it is malpractice to move the Sounders

1502
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 7: out of the most accessible stadium, the most successible, one

1503
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 7: of the if not the most successful stadum in the US.

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01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 7: It's ridiculous. The ability to have seventy thousand, the ability

1505
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 7: to have Pioneer Square right there, to have the International

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01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 7: District right there, to be to be next to the Mariners. Like,

1507
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 7: how much fun has it been when you've been able

1508
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 7: to go to a double header Mariners, Sounders, whatever. It's ridiculous.

1509
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 7: It's ridiculous. I understand from a logistical point of view

1510
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 7: that First and Goal is an evil corporation that is

1511
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 7: literally draining the Sounders mentally and monetarily and pushing them

1512
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 7: off when the monster trucks are coming through. I agree

1513
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 7: with you, but I think that it's a lack of

1514
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 7: creativity on the Sounders front office end to not think

1515
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,879
Speaker 7: that it is possible to build in the city of Seattle,

1516
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 7: that it is possible to pressure the government or First

1517
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 7: and Goal to be better stewards of the public stadium.

1518
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 3: I just a reality from that.

1519
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 7: I don't know, I listen, I'm just saying I think

1520
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 7: it's it's a lack of creativity on their end to

1521
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 7: be like well, we're going to take our ball and

1522
01:11:58,320 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 7: go home to rent In.

1523
01:11:59,439 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 9: Cool.

1524
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 7: That it's great. I'm never going to go I'm not

1525
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 7: going to rent In. That's not happening. That's just not happening.

1526
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 5: Okay, lots to discuss here.

1527
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 3: First of all, why I did this on the podcast.

1528
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 5: Yes, I have.

1529
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 6: Been a big champion for a soccer specific stadium for

1530
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 6: a long time, and I still believe that that is

1531
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 6: the way forward for not just the Sounders, but for

1532
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 6: any MLS team. One of the big things that I

1533
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 6: have been a critic of with MLS is that it

1534
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 6: increasingly feels like, and you know, Don Garber, it's just

1535
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 6: the way it goes. It increasingly feels like that they're

1536
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 6: trying to be an American sports league instead of a

1537
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 6: soccer league, right, And I think that is well represented

1538
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 6: in the fact that Seattle is.

1539
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 3: No agree with that, Jake.

1540
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 7: I just did the most gen Z thing of all time.

1541
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 7: I took a point five selfie ANDERWS cooking and then

1542
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,759
Speaker 7: threw my phone at the new button. So all right, well,

1543
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 7: you're too.

1544
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 5: Well.

1545
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 6: The thing is, though, is that it just feels like

1546
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 6: that's well represented in Seattle, where it's an obvious football stadium.

1547
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 5: And I agree with everything you guys have said.

1548
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 6: The first five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten years of

1549
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 6: Seattle Sounders soccer, it was a perfect introduction into what

1550
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 6: soccer can be in this city. I think that the

1551
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 6: absolute ideal is to have a soccer specific stadium in

1552
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 6: Seattle one and I don't know if that's possible. I

1553
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,560
Speaker 6: don't know if that's probable. I don't know any of

1554
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 6: those things. That is the number one ask for me,

1555
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 6: But the idea of it being it's continuing the way

1556
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 6: it is now where you're playing on turf, you're playing

1557
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 6: in a football stadium. Uh, I don't know that versus

1558
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 6: a renting thing. I there are people much smarter than

1559
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 6: me that can kind of understand what effect that would

1560
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 6: have on the community more than myself. I know from

1561
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 6: my personal experience, I have really wanted to see something

1562
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 6: like and you mentioned Frisco, Texas.

1563
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 5: That's a bad example.

1564
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 6: There's also a lot of good examples of soccer specific

1565
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 6: stadiums in MLS. Austin's a great example of one. I

1566
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 6: think Minnesota, the one we just played in is another

1567
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 6: great one.

1568
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 5: Gorgeous, it's awesome. So there are so.

1569
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 6: Many things that you can take from the positive side

1570
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 6: of things that can absolutely grow a soccer community and

1571
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 6: lean into what makes the sport the most popular sport

1572
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 6: in the world. Don't try and be another American sports

1573
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 6: league with playoffs and three game.

1574
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 5: Freaking playoff kidding me.

1575
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 6: So stupid, but it's just it just represents everything that

1576
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 6: I have an issue with with MLS, and I really

1577
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 6: hope they start to lean more into just being a

1578
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,799
Speaker 6: soccer league and be a part of world football.

1579
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 4: For me, I have a hard time getting to a

1580
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 4: place in my mind picturing this team playing its home

1581
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 4: games in Renton and seeing how it doesn't become a

1582
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 4: very stark downgrade from the location and accessibility that they

1583
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 4: have at Blomenfield. You know, like Noah said, like being

1584
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 4: able to take the light rail or the bus down

1585
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 4: to Pioneer Square. Yeah, like you you can't beat the location.

1586
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 4: And if you move it out to Renton where I mean,

1587
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 4: we've all been out at Long Acres, there's just not

1588
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,839
Speaker 4: a lot around there. There's no way, there's no bars,

1589
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 4: there's no restaurants, there's no vibes.

1590
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 3: I will defend it for a moment. South Center is

1591
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 3: five minutes away.

1592
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, but in South Center. You you better be packing.

1593
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, but this is rentam to gilla let me do.

1594
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 3: You know, there's there's also Nikea and those.

1595
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 7: Let's go.

1596
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 4: There's no way that you can do this in my

1597
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 4: mind without it being a very stark downgrade.

1598
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 3: Now, there's things you can do to address that.

1599
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 4: You can try and improve, uh the public transit to

1600
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 4: to get out there. You can try and create a

1601
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 4: kind of like a mecha area like which yeah, and

1602
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 4: these are these are things that could make it more

1603
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 4: workable than if it's just you know, just building a

1604
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 4: stadium out there and calling it a day, like Niko said,

1605
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 4: the bare minimum. Uh so it's just I don't know.

1606
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 4: I have a hard time wrapping my head around that.

1607
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 4: But I do think like you got to be cognizant

1608
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 4: of the other side of this, which is that, uh,

1609
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 4: sharing a venue sucks, like clearly, otherwise they wouldn't want

1610
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 4: to do this, and like the you know, we joke

1611
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 4: about getting displaced by the monster trucks and stuff. But

1612
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 4: the reality is there's been multiple situations now where they've

1613
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 4: needed the field to host a Conka CAF Champions Cup

1614
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 4: like semi final or a really big game and they

1615
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 4: literally can't do it because they share a venue they

1616
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 4: were going to have to play a CCC game at

1617
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 4: like Starfire or something or yeah earon Spokane. That was like,

1618
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 4: I don't know if people know this, that was like

1619
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 4: a real possibility, and I can totally honestly, I don't

1620
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 4: think it's like corporate greed or the oligarchy for them

1621
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 4: to be like, we don't want to deal with this,

1622
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 4: Like we want our own place that we control where

1623
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 4: we can just do our own thing not have to worry.

1624
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 3: So I get all.

1625
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 4: That's but like the uh, it's just tough because the

1626
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,719
Speaker 4: location they have right now is is second to none

1627
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 4: in in the league, and you would you would have

1628
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 4: to do stuff to make it more accessible and to

1629
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 4: just you know, spruce up.

1630
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 3: The area around the stadium.

1631
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 4: Otherwise, to me, as bad as it is, sharing luhman,

1632
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 4: it just becomes a non starter because of how much

1633
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 4: of a downgrade we're talking about in terms of the

1634
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 4: atmosphere and game day experience.

1635
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 5: It really is.

1636
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 2: It really is the best stadium location, and I mean

1637
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 2: those the way Soto is located at the intersection of

1638
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 2: two giant American freeways, like.

1639
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 3: It's it's insane.

1640
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 2: The location that Soto and for the Mariners, Seahawks, Sounders,

1641
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 2: it's it's incredible, and I'm amazed that the Sonics didn't

1642
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 2: get their situation there as well.

1643
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 10: Supportant yeahsh but I think we could all agree that

1644
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 10: like the best situation, the best the best scenario is

1645
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 10: that Balmer or someone with some deep pockets comes in

1646
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 10: here and they have the ability.

1647
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 8: To force their way into some sort of terrain in

1648
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 8: Seattle near the water Frames Rise, answer the Qris Hansen Land, whatever,

1649
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 8: that you can do this amazing stadium where everybody wants it.

1650
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 3: Hey, k do you see Katie Wilson leads there's a

1651
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 3: recount coming.

1652
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 7: But listen, listen, I'm just saying we.

1653
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on. I was I'm going to lead

1654
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 3: into this.

1655
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie Wilson, who who got to some notoriety and

1656
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 2: some fame and probably got a lot of votes where.

1657
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:21,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, lobbing Scorcher's guest Katie Wilson. She came the show twice.

1658
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 7: Actually she was even pulling one percent.

1659
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's she was just kind of trying to get

1660
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 4: her name out there anywhere she could, I feel like

1661
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 4: at that time, which is.

1662
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 3: Why it makes sense in hindsight, why would she come on.

1663
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 4: A soccer show, but then she took off and is

1664
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 4: maybe about to be so amazing.

1665
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 6: I think Jackson was alluding to this, but I think

1666
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 6: Nico as well. Everyone agrees that the best case scenario

1667
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 6: is a soccer specific stadium in Seattle in Soto, yes,

1668
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 6: but if that is not a reality, If we're talking

1669
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 6: soccer specific stadium Mecca in Renton or sticking with what

1670
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 6: you have in Luman, what are we thinking.

1671
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 8: I think you have to go to Renton only for

1672
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 8: one reason. He's going to get a hell of a

1673
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 8: low words before it gets better. And you reminded me

1674
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 8: of this anders in an attempt or No, in a

1675
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 8: reality where MLS wants to connect to the rest of

1676
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 8: the soccer world, they're changing the schedule. So the format

1677
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 8: is changing in twenty twenty seven, meaning that you're going

1678
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 8: to play a lot more games on NFL stadium calendars.

1679
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 8: So when he comes to Atlanta, when it comes to Seattle,

1680
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 8: when he comes to Charlotte, you're going to have to

1681
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 8: figure out exactly how you're going to do that, and

1682
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 8: more than likely you're going to have to figure out

1683
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 8: a way to move out of Mommy's basement, and that's

1684
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 8: the way it might have to happen.

1685
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1686
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 7: I have to say this before because I think again

1687
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 7: this is way. Yeah, this is a lack of imagination.

1688
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 7: If New York City FC can build a stadium in

1689
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 7: the city of New York, you're telling me that's fine.

1690
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 7: How long has it taken?

1691
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 9: Has it been?

1692
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 7: How long has it been that the Sounders have been

1693
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 7: wanting a new stadium? Again, it's a lack of imagination.

1694
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 7: It's a lack of leadership on the front to believe

1695
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 7: that they can actually do it. Look, it's possible, So

1696
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 7: it's there, it's possible, get it done.

1697
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 2: I just don't think that the finite. I mean to

1698
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 2: buy Chris Hansen's land there. I just don't think the

1699
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 2: aquarium put the stadium there.

1700
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 7: Why can't we put it on top of a skotyscraper?

1701
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 7: What do we know.

1702
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 5: Before before we end?

1703
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 2: Before we end, do we want to riff at all

1704
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 2: on the stupidity and the insanity of doing a three

1705
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 2: game first round series and single elimination thereafter?

1706
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 7: Anybody, Dawn come on the show so we can uh,

1707
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 7: so we can debate you, because what.

1708
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 3: Was wrong with home and what we what are we

1709
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 3: doing be a soccer league?

1710
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 4: Thank you well, but a lot of people have been like,

1711
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 4: I don't like that too because of road goals and

1712
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 4: blah blah blah.

1713
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 3: I really think the world does it?

1714
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 4: I think yeah, And that's how I mols used to

1715
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 4: do it and it was fine. And as you know,

1716
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 4: you know, it's sour grapes about the Minnesota lost probably,

1717
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 4: but like that series should have been.

1718
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 9: It's just unnatural. Yes, it's unnatural, is like what happened

1719
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 9: in the game. I love? How about this?

1720
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 8: Why don't we start doing uh MLB playoffs with aggregates?

1721
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 9: How about that? How song with that.

1722
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 8: Home and away in the playoffs with agregate score for

1723
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 8: MLB and tell me people would have los their minds.

1724
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 9: That's exactly what that's a that's.

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01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 3: A good way.

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01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 6: If you introduced this in the Champions League, like Champions League,

1727
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,799
Speaker 6: could you imagine how crazy people?

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01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 7: Yes, we had a.

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01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 4: Caller I thought we had a caller on our show

1730
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 4: who said it the best, which is like, you know,

1731
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,679
Speaker 4: we were talking about how the PK shootout was exciting

1732
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 4: for neutrals and it was.

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01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 3: Like it was an entertaining moment. It's a manufactured moment.

1734
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 4: That game. That game shouldn't have happened. Yeah, it was

1735
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 4: exciting to watch, but like it shouldn't have been happening.

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01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 8: Totally, totally, and it happens because of what you said

1737
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 8: is there's these focus groups that MLS talks to, and

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01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 8: those focus groups at times you're trying to get this,

1739
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 8: you know, random fan or the medium fan, go.

1740
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 9: For your product soccer.

1741
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 8: If people don't want to watch soccer and want to

1742
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 8: learn about soccer, If you don't want to learn about soccer,

1743
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 8: if you're just a casual for you, then it's not

1744
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 8: for you.

1745
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 7: It's also let's be real, let's let's let's say what

1746
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 7: it actually was. Apple TV asked for more games, and

1747
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 7: they gave them more games because MLS got billions of dollars.

1748
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 7: That's what happened. That's how it goes. And just like

1749
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 7: the stadium, how the stadium will raise the Sounders monetary

1750
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 7: profile and the value of all those shares, which is

1751
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,679
Speaker 7: why the shareholders are willing to dilute their own shares

1752
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 7: to build a stadium, because it will bring the value

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01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 7: of the league up. That's what we're doing. It's all

1754
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 7: about money. The game is gone, thank.

1755
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 2: You, no, right, for everybody. Let's let's wrap it here.

1756
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,600
Speaker 2: Bringing it back to the twenty twenty five Sounders. I

1757
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 2: think we all are in general agreement that the year

1758
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:54,839
Speaker 2: was a success. One League's Cup, seventy thousand people booing

1759
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 2: and embarrassing Messy, so we.

1760
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 5: Have it was great.

1761
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 2: It's just what's funny is my wife rise it comes

1762
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 2: to the game and and uh and afterwards, like the

1763
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 2: first thing she says to me is is did MESSI play?

1764
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:16,799
Speaker 3: And she was It was so and she wasn't even joking.

1765
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 5: I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it.

1766
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 2: What's I think she genuinely thought that he might have

1767
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 2: come off at halftime or something.

1768
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 4: And that's the degree to which Obed Vargas and Christian

1769
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:28,919
Speaker 4: Roldand stole his soul literally.

1770
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 8: And for everybody who is a dogg in on Albert

1771
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 8: and saying, my DP will never miss the sitter, go

1772
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 8: look at that game and tell me the sitter that

1773
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 8: Leon mess.

1774
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 9: I don't know.

1775
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 2: Apparently not so seasons of success, seventy thousand people beat him,

1776
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 2: got the final trophy in the trophy cabinet, were the

1777
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 2: only team ever to have had the whole anymo.

1778
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 5: We're done, the game.

1779
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: We're done.

1780
01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 5: The game's beaten.

1781
01:24:59,240 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 7: We finished it.

1782
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 3: We finished the video games.

1783
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty darn cool, and Jordan Morris becomes the all

1784
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 2: time leading goal scorer in Sounders UP history. Cool moments throughout,

1785
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 2: really awesome through a game. The player guys, we beat

1786
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:14,759
Speaker 2: Portland at home.

1787
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1788
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 2: Most cards ever in a season by far. Yeah, probably

1789
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 2: he knew who got his act together? He came around

1790
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 2: and he did did some solution he got he came around.

1791
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 7: Who's got his goal?

1792
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 5: Nominee dro That's.

1793
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 2: Pretty voted voted the greatest goal in Sounders FC history.

1794
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 3: By the crashed out in the locker room because of

1795
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 3: a labor dispute. That yeah, shirts, See, this was a season.

1796
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:54,440
Speaker 7: What what Jackson? It's about moments. It's beautiful.

1797
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 2: If there's a title for this podcast is it's about

1798
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 2: moments ament we had? We had a lot of moments.

1799
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 2: Unfortunately we didn't the moments at the very very end.

1800
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 2: But ultimately, uh, it's a successful season. It's fun and

1801
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 2: I think that maybe we'll do a roundtable to start

1802
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, because Lord knows, this team is going

1803
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 2: to change. There's going to be moves, there's going to

1804
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 2: be news, it's going to be constant. I know you

1805
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 2: guys in lobbing Scorches will be covered on it on

1806
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 2: all basis, and Ares will probably do one off season

1807
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 2: podcast like we always do.

1808
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 6: When we signed Robert Lewandowski, I'm we're doing around Holland.

1809
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 3: He's the poacher we need.

1810
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 9: I'm trying to get lose out here.

1811
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 5: Bringing you're actually being serious?

1812
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 9: Right?

1813
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 3: Oh?

1814
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 2: No?

1815
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:36,759
Speaker 9: Hemn kidding that guy fired.

1816
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 3: He starts forn I know, but look at.

1817
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 9: His face, right, No, I would love that. I'm like,

1818
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 9: I'm like, why are you smoking right now? I think

1819
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 9: it's a star.

1820
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 3: I know, I know you know things. So I was like,

1821
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 3: I was like, why are you so serious on this?

1822
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 7: That's just you know, we're about to get a graphic

1823
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 7: on an Instagram account.

1824
01:26:56,280 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 8: Off that way, I said that my FIFA wishes FIAT.

1825
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 9: It whatever.

1826
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 3: Career where they give you three hundred million for the sounder?

1827
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Okay, anybody have anything else left to say?

1828
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 7: No?

1829
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 3: I think we hit it all. That was great, great

1830
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 3: round table guys.

1831
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,919
Speaker 8: I'm interested in what the ratings are on this thing.

1832
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 4: This.

1833
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 2: I haven't looked the numbers for this show in this podcast,

1834
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 2: and I don't know how many.

1835
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:34,520
Speaker 3: Years we're gonna hit double digit downloads success.

1836
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 2: My mom and my son, my wife, all the family members.

1837
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 2: All right, well, let's wrap it up, and we thank

1838
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 2: you all for listening. We're now ninety minutes deep here

1839
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 2: in the Sounders Weekly Live Show, plus the now extended

1840
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 2: edition here off the air, Ari, Lillian Wall and Noah

1841
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: Rife host Lobbing Scorches. Get it wherever you get your podcast,

1842
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 2: including the iHeart Radio app. Go subscribe to the Lobbing

1843
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 2: Scorches YouTube. Nico moreno sports postal sounder art He joins

1844
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 2: Lobbying Scorches. Also on Mondays for their kickoff show. Nico

1845
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 2: does outstanding work at l Rollo and.

1846
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 3: W Hill Have.

1847
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 2: I imagine Nico, you're gonna be over the next few months.

1848
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna be tweeting some stuff and breaking some news

1849
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 2: and doing your thing like you always do every off season.

1850
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 2: Andrew Hurts and I here at kJ R, we thank

1851
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 2: you so much for listening. As I mentioned there in

1852
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 2: the live show, we thank everybody with the Sounders broadcast team.

1853
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 2: It's been it's been a really fun year and I

1854
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 2: think Noah you really wrapped it perfectly. It's about moments.

1855
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 2: And we had a lot of really amazing moments this year.

1856
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 2: And you know, this team, would they have one MLS

1857
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 2: Cup if they got through Minnesota. Maybe maybe not.

1858
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 5: I injured.

1859
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 3: You never know on all these things.

1860
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 2: That's sports, right, and you just try to enjoy what

1861
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 2: you can while they're there and while it's going, and

1862
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 2: while it was going from February through here the start

1863
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 2: of November, there was a lot of really really good

1864
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 2: times and and this was a really really good time.

1865
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I love you guys, and.

1866
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 2: You know, being this moment, I mean, this is I mean,

1867
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 2: this is like that, and that's the like that's the thing,

1868
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 2: like you know, a year from now whatever, or you know,

1869
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 2: six months from now, look back at twenty twenty five,

1870
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 2: and this will be one of the moments.

1871
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 3: And doing this with you.

1872
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 2: Guys because I love all you, and and I think

1873
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 2: we have an absolute best media team, uh covering this

1874
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 2: team and talking about this team of anybody. I'll put

1875
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 2: it up against anybody in the league.

1876
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 5: Come at us, Iner Miami, come at us.

1877
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 3: So we'll just spit on you with that.

1878
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 2: We thank you all for listening to this addition, this

1879
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 2: long edition of the season ending Sounders weekly. Everybody have

1880
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 2: a very good offseason. Loving scorches will talk to you.

1881
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,759
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you here on more podcast diversions. Everybody

1882
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 2: will do their thing, have a very very good offseason.

1883
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 3: Everybody take good care