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Speaker 2: All Right, good afternoon, Welcome in, Happy Wednesday. First, let

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to run through today. We've got

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Speaker 2: some Cincinnati Bengals updates that we're gonna get to here.

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Speaker 2: In our number one, Zach Taylor is scheduled to speak

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Speaker 2: to the media this afternoon. We'll play that at one o'clock.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if there's any other Jamar Chase comments. We'll

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Speaker 2: get Joe Burrow update. There are injury updates from Zach

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Speaker 2: Taylor and the Cincinnati Bengals that we will get to

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Speaker 2: all throughout today's show. Our phone lines are open five

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Speaker 2: one three, seven, four, nine, fifteen, thirty our number three Today,

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Speaker 2: we'll have a college basketball recap of everything that took

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Speaker 2: place last night. You want to talk about college basketball,

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Speaker 2: how about Xavier a thirty three point winner over Old

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Speaker 2: Dominion last night at the Centas Center. We'll recap that.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear a little of Rick Patino's opening statements after

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Speaker 2: the win and the loss last night, a non competitive

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Speaker 2: loss from Mark Pope and the Kentucky Wildcats against Michigan State.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear a little of Mark Pope's comments with Jeff

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Speaker 2: Goodman as well. Also in our number three, we don't

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Speaker 2: have a chance to do it, but Pat Kelsey, the

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Speaker 2: head coach of Louisville, caught up with Lance McAllister last night.

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Speaker 2: We'll play a couple minutes of that leading into Friday

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Speaker 2: Night's game at Heritage Bank Arena against the Cincinnati Bearcats.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow on the show, Wes Miller, will you join us

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Speaker 2: to preview the UC Louisville game as well? And a

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Speaker 2: very special guest in our number three, Lana Yulrig, who

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Speaker 2: is with the Cincinnati Cancer Advisors, is going to stop

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Speaker 2: support the Cincinnati Cancer Advisor, So we will do that

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Speaker 2: in our number three. We'll also catch up with Moe

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Speaker 2: Egger in our number three, Zach Taylor in our number two,

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Speaker 2: your talkbacks, and a heck of a lot more between

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Speaker 2: now and then. College football playoff rankings came out last night.

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Speaker 2: Not much shake up in the top three. The top

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Speaker 2: three in fact, remain the same in the College Football

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Speaker 2: Playoff rankings. Ohio State, Indiana, and Texas A and M.

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Speaker 2: After they're huge come from behind victory against South Carolina

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Speaker 2: is five, Ole, Missus six, Oregon seven, Oklahoma eight, Notre

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Speaker 2: Even though their coach doesn't think they should be in

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Speaker 2: the top twelve right now, they are currently in the

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Speaker 2: college Football Playoff rankings. Austin, as our resident Ohio State fan,

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Speaker 2: would you rather be at the end of the year

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Speaker 2: ranked number one or number two? If this were the

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Speaker 2: current bracket right now, Ohio State would play the winner

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Speaker 2: Tech and Georgia, while Indiana would see the winner of

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Speaker 3: I don't love any of those matchups, to be honest.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the way it's currently set up, Ohio

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Speaker 2: Ohio State does have questions at wide receiver MM with

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Speaker 3: I don't know what a game against Charlotte's gonna do

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Speaker 2: I also wonder I just they're kind of out of

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Speaker 2: they would likely take on Georgia in the quarterfinals. But

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Speaker 2: I think that's a out of the teams that I

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Speaker 3: I would assume if the bracket is how we expected,

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Speaker 3: Texas A and m could be the best game of

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Speaker 2: Texas Like that ended up being the best.

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Speaker 3: That feels like the national Championship game to a lot

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Speaker 2: If this holds. Sure, some good college basketball tonight, Arizona Yukon,

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Speaker 2: to the nb A, there was a name in Baseball

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Speaker 2: Country that were wondering could this be a good fit

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Speaker 2: because Los Angeles Angels outfielder Taylor Ward has signed with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that might have been a name

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Speaker 3: as we all know, is as offensive list of players

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Speaker 3: what I find interesting is the exchange here. The Angels

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Speaker 3: get a big league caliber pitcher in return. Now, Grayson

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Speaker 3: Rodriguez is not the best of the best, but he's

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Speaker 3: which we know it doesn't matter but still is twenty

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Speaker 3: Over the course of his career, he's got two hundred

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Speaker 3: major leaguer, and that's what this deal was. A quality

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Speaker 3: with Lux and with Singers. Yeah, we have some NFL

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Speaker 3: news happening right now. The Cleveland Browns are saying that

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Speaker 3: this weekend. Speaking of quarterbacks, Michael Pennix is going to

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Speaker 3: Congratulations to Ken Anderson, Friend of the Show, Ken Anderson's

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Speaker 2: Also happening yesterday, but I think this was pretty much

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Speaker 2: as assumed it was going to. The one game suspension

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Speaker 2: was heard by Jordy Nelson. That is going to cost

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase Austin four hundred and forty eight thousand, three

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty three dollars and also forfeitting a fifty eight,

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Speaker 2: where does that money go?

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Speaker 3: I believe it is donated to various charities. Well, actually, fine,

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, So okay, what do you think was going

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Speaker 3: through Jordan Nelson's head? Oh when he reads this appeal?

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Speaker 3: If I was trying to spit on him. I would

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Speaker 3: have spit in his face.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would have went with the Mike

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Speaker 2: Florio side that there's really no precedent for this. Jordan

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Speaker 2: I go back and again, to me, I would rather

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Speaker 2: We know the rivalry between Pittsburgh and Cincinnati is rooted

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Speaker 6: That's how this game, that's how Pittsburgh Steelers play is

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Speaker 6: to work and you eat that dude down. Trypalma used

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Speaker 6: ray Us showy times were gonna Lucia to help me

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Speaker 6: We don't need that. That that extra stuff is unnecessary.

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Speaker 6: And listen, I'm not trying to say this students, anything wrong.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying that that rivalry between those two, I

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Speaker 2: Is there lines you shouldn't cross? Yes? Was a line

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Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers, and I think there's just this this

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Speaker 3: dislike and especially when there's a playoff chapter in it

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 2: When you go back to the Jeremy Hill fumble.

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Speaker 3: Jeremy Hill, but also what happened on the sidelines, Joey Porter,

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Speaker 3: the Steelers special teams coach pulling Reggie Nelson's hair like

439
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Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff. It's just it's an unfortunate

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Speaker 3: part of the story is that there is a hatred

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Speaker 3: that unites these two teams.

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Speaker 2: And I think Ben's right.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe it's a little bit like the Bengals

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Speaker 3: and Ravens and Steelers and Ravens rivalry is is kind

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Speaker 3: of similar, like there's respect there, but for the other two.

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Speaker 2: Nope, not at all.

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Speaker 8: Nah.

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Speaker 2: Nah, Let's take a phone call before we grab a break.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, Mike, Hey.

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Speaker 9: Those what's going on? Well, Kenny Anderson, I sure hope

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Speaker 9: this guy gets in. He you know, I had the

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Speaker 9: privilege of watching him and he you know, he went

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Speaker 9: to Augustana College, so he obviously didn't get any.

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Speaker 10: Cub coming out. So that was a brilliant pick by

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Speaker 10: the Bengals when they picked in. Yeah, and he turned

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Speaker 10: out to be as solid as quarterback as you'll ever watch. Yep,

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Speaker 10: not spectacular necessarily, but extremely solid. And just wanted to

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Speaker 10: get your sentiments on the Kenny.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean you look at what he did when he retired.

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Speaker 2: I believe he was top He was sixth in passing

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Speaker 2: time passing yardage all time, and thirteenth in passing touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: He was an MVP in nineteen eighty one fourteen. There

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Speaker 2: are We've highlighted this before. There are far, far, and

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Speaker 2: above many folks in the Hall of Fame that don't

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Speaker 2: have the career statistics of Ken Anderson. And I just

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's being punished because there was

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Speaker 2: this feel about the Bengals or whatnot. But Ken Anderson,

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Speaker 2: all I can say is how deserving he is based

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Speaker 2: on what he's done on the field. And if you

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Speaker 2: ever had the have had the privilege and the honor

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Speaker 2: to meet Ken in person, and I have, and we've

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Speaker 2: had him on this show before. He's not only one

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Speaker 2: of the best ever played quarterback, he's genuinely one of

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Speaker 2: the nicest human beings you'll ever meet. And I can't

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Speaker 2: say a bad thing about Ken Anderson. It's long overdue

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Speaker 2: and he is he is meant to be in the

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Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm actually I've been sam prayers for the guy

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Speaker 9: because You're right as far as a human being and

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Speaker 9: a stand up citizen, Yep. You can't find a better

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Speaker 9: guy than Kenny Anderson. There's no way. Yeah, I wouldn't

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Speaker 9: mind doing a little basketball because I'm not talking about

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Speaker 9: the Bengals beause they're not gonna talk about I'm sorry,

485
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Speaker 9: it just isn't. I mean, you could, but it's kind

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Speaker 9: of wasted there. I'll tell you what the UK's list

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Speaker 9: and Cali Pari, I don't care what they say. And

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Speaker 9: you can talk Mark Pope all day. They misscal Yeah,

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Speaker 9: look what Cows went over to do with Arkansas with

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Speaker 9: the Razorbacks. That is a very dangerous basketball team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're dangerous, and I thought it was interesting. Leading

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Speaker 2: up to the game, tom Izzo went out of his

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Speaker 2: way to talk about the roster. He said, this Kentucky

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Speaker 2: roster is more talented than the Arkansas roster. He didn't

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Speaker 2: talk about the coaching because that Arkansas game with Michigan

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Speaker 2: State was a dogfight. That game last night was a blowout,

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Speaker 2: and I think there are a lot of people right

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Speaker 2: now questioning Mark Pope. With the money and the roster

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Speaker 2: they've spent to put that roster together, you have got

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Speaker 2: to yield better results early in the season.

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Speaker 9: I agree with you, ton I think Lebron showed a

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Speaker 9: lot of class last night. Nice mostly playing point and

503
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Speaker 9: getting twelve sixs and just knowing how to handle the situation. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: which leads me into the NBA. Look at these Pistons,

505
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Speaker 9: they're the story. Thirteen to two, k cunning him, that's

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Speaker 9: the story. And by the way, Austin, what happened to

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Speaker 9: your books?

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Speaker 2: Hundred Yeah, Pistons.

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Speaker 9: Playing at the time.

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Speaker 2: Little sisters of the Pistons have won eleven games in

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Speaker 2: a row. Unbelievable, crazy, crazy.

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Speaker 9: And you gotta love it because it wasn't It wasn't

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Speaker 9: anything anybody now.

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Speaker 12: Who knows it.

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Speaker 9: They'll stay there. But it was unexpected. And that's what

516
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Speaker 9: makes team sports funds and stuff that you weren't playing on.

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Speaker 9: I really and and and I'm telling you, man, they're

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Speaker 9: okayc team. They're not just beating people, Tony, they are

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Speaker 9: smoking people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're They're not getting talked about enough for being

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Speaker 2: fourteen and one. Their average point differential is almost sixteen.

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Speaker 2: That is easily the highest in the National Basketball Association.

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Speaker 2: They are, they're dominant, they are they are so good

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Speaker 2: and They're good on both sides of the ball, which

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Speaker 2: is refreshing to watch.

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Speaker 9: And they don't even have Jalen Williams there second best players.

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Speaker 2: Agreed, Agreed, it's it's incredible.

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Speaker 9: One last thing, I I don't like this game with

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Speaker 9: for you see on against Louisville. I don't like it.

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Speaker 9: I don't like it at all. For you see, I

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Speaker 9: really don't. That's a basketball team down there, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Yep, they can score it from all angles. It is

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Speaker 2: a what I think Louisville's a national title contender. I

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Speaker 2: think they are and I don't think you sees there yet,

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Speaker 2: but it'll be a measuring stick for how far off

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Speaker 2: you see potentially is. I think that at least you

537
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Speaker 2: can get out of the game and hopefully grow from it.

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Speaker 2: On Friday night, Oh, I know you got to go.

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Speaker 9: But I'm with you real quick and just hit me

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Speaker 9: in the head. I'm with you on Texas Tech and football. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I'm really with you on that's a that's a tough,

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Speaker 9: tough football team. I'll let you go.

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Speaker 2: Thanks boy, thank you, Mike, appreciate you. Let's get a break, Austin.

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Speaker 2: I want to uh, I want to have two conversations

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Speaker 2: around the Bengals. When we come back, I want to

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Speaker 2: have a brief Trey Hendrickson conversation to kind of pick

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Speaker 2: up from yesterday and then this whole Joe Burrow to

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Speaker 2: play or not to play conundrum. Let's dive into that

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Speaker 2: a little bit more when we return. He SPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks to Skyline, you've.

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Speaker 1: Been listening to Football in the Nattie on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: We'll grab another phone caller to here in the next segment,

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Speaker 2: real quick, Austin, I just want us to make sure

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Speaker 2: we're on the same page as it relates to Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 2: We glazed over this with Mo and Quick Hitch yesterday.

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Speaker 2: But back to back Mondays, we've heard from Zach Taylor,

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Speaker 2: and Zach Taylor's been asked about Trey Hendrickson in both Mondays.

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Speaker 2: He's been very adamant, doubtful. He's doubtful. This week we've

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Speaker 2: heard week to week, we've heard rumblings is there a

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Speaker 2: potential surgery for Trey Hendrickson this also, with the backdrop

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Speaker 2: of the contract situation that happened all throughout the offseason

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Speaker 2: and what contract situation he's in right now, it would

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Speaker 2: lead me to believe that we are closer Austin to

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Speaker 2: not seeing Trey Hendrickson play another snap this year than

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Speaker 2: we are to Trey Hendrickson playing another snap this year.

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Speaker 2: It's just if he was close, or if there was

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Speaker 2: an option. Knowing what we know about Zach Taylor and

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Speaker 2: hearing how he has spoken the past, I feel like

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Speaker 2: it would be like, you know, we're going to evaluate

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Speaker 2: how this week goes. I don't know yet. We'll see

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Speaker 2: as we go. It's not been that with Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 2: It's been very blunt. It's been very brief, doubtful this week.

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Speaker 2: Are we looking too much into that or do you

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Speaker 2: feel like we're at the end here with Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 3: I think it's weird that Zach has shot it down

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Speaker 3: as quickly as he has is if nothing else, you

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Speaker 3: would want New England to think Trey Henderson's going to

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Speaker 3: be on the field the threat of him, yeah, or

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Speaker 3: at least say we'll see how he does or we'll

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Speaker 3: see if he practices or whatever. And it's also weird

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Speaker 3: that they haven't put him on IR. They could have

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Speaker 3: put him on IR a couple of weeks ago if

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Speaker 3: it was going to take this long, and he could

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Speaker 3: have missed a minimum of four games, So that I

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Speaker 3: find weird just because it's a deviation from the norm.

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Speaker 3: I also wonder if both sides are kind of looking

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Speaker 3: at this thinking, yeah, I think we're done here.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that info could have been out there

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Speaker 2: and that's why that they didn't get anything better than

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Speaker 2: a fourth round offer?

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Speaker 3: Potentially? Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's part of it. But

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Speaker 3: you know, I think the other thing with that, or

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Speaker 3: Trey could have quietly doubled out and said, if you

597
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Speaker 3: don't trade me, I'm not playing. Sure, that's also a possibility.

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Speaker 3: It's just a guess, but you know, I put up

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Speaker 3: the poll question at Audiom or will Trey play again

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Speaker 3: this season for the Bengals? Eighty three percent said no.

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Speaker 3: I also look at, you know, the standoff that they

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Speaker 3: had in the offseason and the Bengals reinvesting in him because,

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Speaker 3: as dumb as it might be, they thought they could

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Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl this year. Yeah, and they've not

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Speaker 3: been willing to commit to him long term because I

606
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: think they have doubts about players his age at that position,

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Speaker 3: especially somebody who's not been an elite athlete, and now

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Speaker 3: even more so a guy who's going through it a

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Speaker 3: weird back hip pelvis injury. And so yeah, they reserve

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Speaker 3: the right to franchise tag him at twenty six million dollars,

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Speaker 3: twenty seven million dollars whatever it is next year, and

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Speaker 3: that's a possibility. I have a hard time believing the

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Speaker 3: Bengals are going to re up and say, Okay, we

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Speaker 3: want to double down on keeping Trey Henderson here. And

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Speaker 3: maybe they do tag him and trade him. That's obviously

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Speaker 3: a possibility, and I'm sure a team would take him

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Speaker 3: for that price tag. But if it really is about

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Speaker 3: evaluation from here on out and Trey is not going

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Speaker 3: to be a part of your future, yep, there's no

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Speaker 3: need for him to play.

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Speaker 2: Correct. Speaking of playing, let's talk about Joe Burrow. Dan

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Speaker 2: Graziano and Jeremy Fowler of ESPN had this conversation as well,

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Speaker 2: and talking about Joe Burrow and Jaden Daniels, and I

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Speaker 2: just want to read a couple excerpts here from Graziano

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Speaker 2: and Fowler Dan Grasiano Report, and again I think we'll

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Speaker 2: hear more from this from Zach Taylor at one o'clock today.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals playing to give Burrow more work in practice

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Speaker 2: this week. He has said that he's targeting the Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: game that is, of course, next Thursday. A lot of

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Speaker 2: the answer will depend on how the toe responds to

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Speaker 2: the work he's getting in practice. But from what I've

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Speaker 2: been told, so far, so good. Jeremy Fowler says that

633
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Speaker 2: what appears clear is that Burrow wants to play. Team

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Speaker 2: record be damn. Whether he actually play remains to be seen.

635
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Speaker 2: The team will have something to say about that, but

636
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Speaker 2: he's now of the mindset right now that he's playing.

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Speaker 2: The AFC North door has been left slightly open. They

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Speaker 2: go on to talk a little bit more of Graziano

639
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Speaker 2: that he expects Burrow to play as soon as he's cleared.

640
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Speaker 2: The Bengals will regret losing the fourth quarter leads to

641
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Speaker 2: the Jets and Bears, which we've talked about, but still

642
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: expect them to get him back on the field because

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00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: the coaching staff might need to win some games to

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Speaker 2: feel fully comfortable about keeping their jobs. Also talks to

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Speaker 2: the point of the Bengals or not one to wave

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Speaker 2: the white flag, and then Jeremy Foller adds that returning

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow to play, even if the playoffs are out

648
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,959
Speaker 2: of reach, could help build confidence and momentum for both

649
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: the player and the team going into twenty twenty six,

650
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: although the Bengals could opt to save him for twenty

651
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: twenty six. All of this being said, I think there

652
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: are two very very different scenarios Austin. One, what do

653
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: you want to see the Bengals do with Joe Burrow?

654
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: And does that match what you think the Bengals will

655
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 2: do with Joe Burrow. I want to watch Joe Burrow play.

656
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: I think he should play. I think it would be

657
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: good for everybody if he does play. Now, If if

658
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: what they're saying is true that the Bengals may need

659
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: to win a couple of games for the staff to

660
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: feel comfortable, I think that's I think that's probably true.

661
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: I mean, anytime you lose a bunch of games, nobody's

662
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: really gonna feel comfortable about it. And we've had the

663
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: conversation in the past that if this thing were to

664
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: really really unravel, it might reach the point of no

665
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: return for Zach Taylor. And so I'm sure he does

666
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: feel the heat. And you do think whenever Joe Burrow's

667
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: on the field, you have a better chance at winning

668
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: football games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think most people would agree with that. So,

670
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a Bengals fan and you want

671
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: them to fire Zach Taylor, then you probably don't want

672
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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow to play, and you're rooting for them to

673
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: lose every game the rest of the year. I look

674
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: at it and say, they have their quarterback. He hasn't

675
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 3: played since September. He needs he just needs to play football.

676
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 3: Like if he plays two games and he doesn't really

677
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: start doing football activities again until July June July, that

678
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: I don't think is a good thing. And I think

679
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: it's important for him to play, especially to continue to

680
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: play with some of these young players like Dylan Fairchild

681
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: and maybe Jalen Rivers. God help us if he's on

682
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: the field while Burrow's out there. But I don't think

683
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: it's a bad thing for Burrow to play.

684
00:35:59,040 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

685
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: I also don't know that that they're gonna win a

686
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: bunch of games even with him.

687
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think there's something to the fact that

688
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: you're paying a guy fifty five million dollars he should play. Yeah, sure,

689
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: that's fair. But I've been so back and forth on this.

690
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: But if you're going to to to move forward in

691
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: fear that Joe Burrow, if you don't want him to

692
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: play because he's gonna get hurt, that's not the right

693
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: way to look at it anyway. Correct. If that's the fear,

694
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: and if that's a fear in the organization, then this

695
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: thing's been built the wrong way, in which we've already

696
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: talked about. You you can't. You can't. If you're the

697
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 2: Bengals saying well, we want Joe to get reps, but

698
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: we don't want to get him hurt, then that's an

699
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 2: indictment on the team you've put together. Yeah, which, again

700
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: we've talked about that a lot. Guy's getting fifty five million.

701
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: I agree with you, he needs reps. Yeah, he has

702
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: to play football. Whether you are playing for something or not,

703
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: you're playing for your organization, you're playing for that sea

704
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: that you're wearing on your chest. You're playing for the

705
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: guys around you that are still playing for something. And

706
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Speaker 2: I think that's why Joe Burrow has made it such

707
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: a point to want to get back because Joe realizes

708
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: that Joe realizes the guys around him as well and

709
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: wants to be right by them. I think Joe Burrow

710
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: should play, and I think the Bengals will do.

711
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 11: That to him.

712
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: I think it's good for everybody if he plays. Now.

713
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: I don't know that they should necessarily rush him back

714
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: at this point because last week was basically the last gasp.

715
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: I mean, if they had won that game, then I

716
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: think it's almost certain he plays on Thanksgiving night. But

717
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: now it's like, Okay, well, let's give you the extra week,

718
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 3: We'll have you play in Buffalo, you know, whatever it

719
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: might be. I don't know that they should really be

720
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: rushing him back. Yeah, and you know that also being said,

721
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 3: if he can play, you know those three games Buffalo Baltimore,

722
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 3: Miami or Baltimore Miami Arizona, no real reason for him

723
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 3: to play in Week eighteen, that I would be okay

724
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: with him sitting out because there's no win there.

725
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: Whatsoever, especially if Miles Garrett's going for thirty sacks correct exactly.

726
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 3: I mean that who knows that game could be for

727
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: the number one pick of the draft.

728
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, very well, all right, let's break, let's come back.

729
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: We'll grab a phone call, we'll finish up this conversation,

730
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: and we'll get to Zach Taylor speaking at one o'clock

731
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station thanks to

732
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: Skyline Chili School.

733
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 11: Insie a strong one.

734
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 2: I gotta have some fun tonight. Welcome back our one

735
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: since he three sixty Wednesday afternoon, thanks to Skyline Chili,

736
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor, his weekly press conference happens in just about

737
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: ten minutes. We'll carry that to kick off our number two.

738
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Speaker 2: Right before your talkbacks, Let's grab ourselves a phone call. Marcus,

739
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 2: what's up? Hey?

740
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Speaker 5: How are you guys doing good? How are you good?

741
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 13: When it comes to the Bengals, I just I feel

742
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 13: like it's not.

743
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 5: Going anywhere fast. I'm more.

744
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 13: I mean, obviously this year is just washed up and done.

745
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 4: But it's like that, It's like that famous line in

746
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 4: Angels and the Outfield when George Knox goes to the

747
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: owner and says, you have to trade all of them? Yeah,

748
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 4: and the and the owner says, I can't trade twenty

749
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 4: five guys. Sure, this whole defense needs to be redone

750
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 4: and I feel like this could be a multi year

751
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 4: project and we don't have that when it comes to Burrow,

752
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 4: Chase and Higgins.

753
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 5: Correct your your don't I don't know where you go

754
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 5: from there.

755
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: Your pain of your stars is an emphasis to try

756
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: to win now, but the rest of the roster doesn't

757
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: add up to that as well. And that's a very

758
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: hard dilemma.

759
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 5: Right, So it's like, what do they do.

760
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 4: Do they strictly just draft defense and hopes to hit

761
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 4: on one even though they they've showed no confidence.

762
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 5: In doing that, or do you use your entire cap.

763
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 13: And sign defensive guys? Yeah?

764
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they have to make the fundamental shift

765
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: to start getting more proven players. And Austin, I know,

766
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: I don't know the number exactly. Austin, I know you've

767
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: alluded to the fact that they do have a lot

768
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: of money in this upcoming offseason.

769
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Speaker 3: Yeah, as it stands right now, about seventy million dollars

770
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: in cap space next year.

771
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just wonder if that's enough to

772
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 4: get I mean, obously, you can't sign every single position,

773
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 4: but I mean, like I said, I just there's just

774
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 4: so many holes on the defensive side.

775
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 5: And I was watching the game on Sunday, and.

776
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 4: No matter what you do with Murphy and Osi, they

777
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: can't pass rush. So I was really sitting there and

778
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 4: I'm like, if you're al Golin, why don't you just

779
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 4: they the We're done trying to practice pass rushing. Let's

780
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 4: just drop everybody in coverage. Yeah, and maybe they are

781
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 4: doing that, but we just don't have the talent of

782
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 4: the players who do to cover anyway. So I mean,

783
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 4: it's it's just the nets on defense and I don't know,

784
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 4: and I just don't see it being stick anytime soon,

785
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: and that's gonna be a problem.

786
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that Marcus. I appreciate the call, you know, Austin,

787
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: I think that's part of the dilemma right now, is

788
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: that it feels hopeless in a sense that you know

789
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: you have talent on offense, but the hopelessness comes from

790
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 2: just the inability to get anything productive on the defensive SOD.

791
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: I mean, we are nearing the trend right now. They've

792
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: tied an NFL record of giving up at least twenty

793
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: seven or more and nine straight football games. They are

794
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 2: trending from a DVOA standpoint to be the worst defense

795
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: in the history of the National Football League. That leads

796
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: to a very helpless, hopeless feeling about this team. Yeah.

797
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: I mean we've had this conversation a thousand times. I

798
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: think there's a couple of guys that you feel comfortable

799
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: moving forward with. Dax Hill is one of them. I'm

800
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: still open to Miles Murphy, especially if he plays the

801
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 3: way he played on Sunday. Sunday was the best game

802
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: of Miles Murphy's career. Yeah, can you stack that. Hopefully

803
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: that turns into something and I would be happy with that.

804
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: Mar Stewart, I'm still willing to see what he has

805
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: and I think he's just had a terrible first year

806
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: where nothing has really gone his way. Other than that,

807
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: there's a lot of work to be done. I don't

808
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: think Jordan Battle is a lost cause. I don't know

809
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: that he's necessarily a starter, but I don't think he's

810
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: a lost cause. So you just look at that and

811
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: you think, Okay, well, that's three or four guys. We're

812
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: gonna need another twenty to fill out the rest of

813
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 3: the defense that you feel comfortable with. And I get it.

814
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: That feels like a tall task and seventy million dollars

815
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 3: may not be enough. When you have other things to consider.

816
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: You're gonna need a third wide receiver. You're gonna need

817
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: a left tackle at some point, You're probably gonna need

818
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 3: running back depth, offensive line depth. All that stuff is

819
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: gonna be necessary towards building the team. However, I do

820
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: want to re emphasize the point that this defense does

821
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: not need to go from number thirty two to number one.

822
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: We said that going into last offseason and at least

823
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 3: made sense of the plan that they had on paper.

824
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: It just hasn't worked. The biggest question in the offseason is, Okay,

825
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 3: how do we adjust and do we bring in more

826
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: free agents or proven veteran guys in free agency to

827
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: help on defense. And then you also have the ability,

828
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: as far as I understand, it's still to restructure the

829
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: Borough contract to open up even more space if you

830
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 3: need to. So if you decide to trade Tray, you

831
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: get that off the books, you get you know, maybe

832
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: another pick or two from there, maybe you get a

833
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 3: player in return from that. Like, there's a lot of

834
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: various ways they can go. Can they get from thirty

835
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 3: second in the NFL to twenty second? And if they do,

836
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 3: they're probably a playoff.

837
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: Team, which essentially is what we describe the offensive line,

838
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: and because of how bad the defense has been, we

839
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: haven't had a chance to do this, but the offensive

840
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 2: line is trending that way. They're not the worst O

841
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: line in football. Yeah, it's we don't need them to

842
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 2: be the best OH line in football. But all off

843
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: season we said, can they just be a middle of

844
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: the pack O line? Yeah? Can you get that? On

845
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: the defensive side.

846
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: One of the other questions of the off season is

847
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 3: going to be can Jalen Rivers take a step forward

848
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: or are they going to need to readdress that position

849
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 3: as well.

850
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: I think left tackle.

851
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: River has two snaps a game where you're like, oh,

852
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 3: I can see it, and then about fifteen or twenty

853
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: snaps a game where it's like, ugh, I don't know

854
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 3: if I want this guy blocking for Joe Burrow. Meanwhile,

855
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: Dylan Fairchild steady sure, Orlando Brown Junior, I think you

856
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: and I both agree you don't feel comfortable with him

857
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 3: moving forward. He's okay. I don't know if it's time

858
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: to totally pull the plug. But that's not somebody that

859
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 3: you think you know next year going into his age

860
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 3: thirty one season, that you're gonna rely on heavily.

861
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: It's gonna have to be addressed. All right, let's get

862
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: a break in, let's wrap up our number one when

863
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Speaker 2: we come back, ideally right when we come back, if

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Speaker 2: not shortly thereafter, Zach Taylor will speak to members of

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Speaker 2: the media ahead of Sunday's game against the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Weekly press Conference from pay Corpse Stadium with Zach Taylor

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Speaker 2: happening right now. Seck, you open the twenty.

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Speaker 15: One day windows for both Dajon and Mike, you anticipate

881
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Speaker 15: them being able to place something.

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Speaker 11: We'll see, you know, Dejon obviously hasn't gotten in practice.

883
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Speaker 11: It's training camp, so I think that one there's a

884
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Speaker 11: lot of work that's gotta go in there. He hasn't

885
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Speaker 11: played football a long time. Kasecki been out four weeks.

886
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Speaker 11: I feel like he's a little ready to hit the

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Speaker 11: ground running. So we'll see how he looks this week.

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Speaker 16: I think it would be could get Mike back given

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Speaker 16: that everything.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, just giving that situation to lose a guy like

891
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Speaker 11: Jamar and ad one like Mike certainly helps use the

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Speaker 11: pain a little bit. And we'd be happy to have

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Speaker 11: your reaction.

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Speaker 16: To obviously the suspension and then and then his appeal

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Speaker 16: being denied.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean we we we gave him everything we had.

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Speaker 11: They have held the suspension and so as a team,

898
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Speaker 11: we just got to move forward. You know, still support

899
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Speaker 11: Jamar and I have support Jamar, but we got to

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Speaker 11: focus on New England now and look forward to getting

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Speaker 11: Jamrow next back. Next Monday.

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Speaker 17: Is the move for Deison to be at faded because

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Speaker 17: he's finally ready from injury standpoint, or just that you

904
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Speaker 17: guys are hopeful in the next couple of weeks to

905
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Speaker 17: see what you can do for you.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's time to get him back, you know. And

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Speaker 11: so again, now he's he's healthy and so open up

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Speaker 11: this twenty one day windows. We can look at him

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Speaker 11: going into December. It's just it's time to do that,

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Speaker 11: Pitch said.

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Speaker 18: His message to the receivers was, you know, a bunch

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Speaker 18: of guys getting an opportunity here with Jamorrow. What do

913
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Speaker 18: you hope to see kind of in practice this week

914
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Speaker 18: to figure out who's going to get those chances?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, guys just taking advantage of the opportunity. Again, It's

916
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Speaker 11: that's exactly what it is. That's how some guys have

917
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Speaker 11: got their chances. That's how Mitch Tinsley has has gotten

918
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Speaker 11: himself on the roster, has taken advantage of moments where

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Speaker 11: he's at, you know. And so again, I just think

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Speaker 11: we'll continue to evaluate those guys. We got a good

921
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Speaker 11: plan in place to utilize everybody we can. Then we'll

922
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Speaker 11: see how guys continue to step up as the week goes.

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Speaker 16: What challenges does Drake may presenting? What do you think

924
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Speaker 16: about him?

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Speaker 11: I think he's done a great job. I mean four

926
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Speaker 11: to one touchdown interception is really impressive considering his second year,

927
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Speaker 11: new coaching staff, you know all that stuff you factor in.

928
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Speaker 11: I think he's done an excellent job. Seventy two completion

929
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Speaker 11: which is really impressive too. So he's doing everything right

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Speaker 11: and leading the team the eight straight wins. I think

931
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Speaker 11: he's just a really impressive and he's he's a tough

932
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Speaker 11: challenge when you guys taking care of the football like that,

933
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Speaker 11: completing balls at a high rate like he is, twenty

934
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Speaker 11: touchdowns five make plays with his feet as well, So

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Speaker 11: he's really impressive in a difficult challenge for you guys.

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Speaker 16: What did you see from Josh mcteagle saw run by Drake?

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Speaker 19: What is it about Josh mccam was that over the

938
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Speaker 19: years has made him successful.

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Speaker 11: He does a great job attacking defenses a lot of

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Speaker 11: different ways, stay and patient, picking his moments for for

941
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Speaker 11: big opportunities explosives. It's hard to say how much offense

942
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Speaker 11: they carry. I don't know. I've never really been with him,

943
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Speaker 11: but they just do a good job with their game

944
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Speaker 11: planning week to week and attacking attacking what they think

945
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Speaker 11: your weaknesses, and I'm always having some nice wrinkles in place.

946
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Speaker 11: He's done it for a long time a very high level,

947
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Speaker 11: won a lot of Super Bowls, A ton of respect

948
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Speaker 11: for Josh and he's certainly getting a lot of the

949
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Speaker 11: offense right now.

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Speaker 19: Is a term that comes up a lot when when

951
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Speaker 19: his name comes up. Do you see where do you

952
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Speaker 19: see any characteristics of a mesh offense with them run

953
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Speaker 19: through the break offense? A mesh like the concept mess

954
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Speaker 19: like crossing the Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I think if he's get yeah, I mean that that's

956
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Speaker 11: through me on that one. And I didn't expect that question.

957
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Speaker 11: I'm sure that shows up. That's not what I necessarily

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Speaker 11: think of right out the gate. Sat.

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Speaker 20: You know, a game against a good New England team

960
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Speaker 20: with a good record, I think is gonna demand, always

961
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Speaker 20: going to demand the attention of whoever that the team

962
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Speaker 20: is playing. I just wonder because of the unique circumstance

963
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Speaker 20: of you guys having one of the coveted like primetime

964
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Speaker 20: games the following Thursday on Thanksgiving Night, they're like, any

965
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Speaker 20: usefulness and maybe just telling the guys focus on this one, don't.

966
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Speaker 20: I know the idea of looking ahead beyond this doing

967
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Speaker 20: the team is insane, but like, don't look ahead just

968
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Speaker 20: because we have this, you know Thursday night game.

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Speaker 11: Coming up, No, I had a competitiony to do that

970
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Speaker 11: for one second. I think they're pretty well focused on

971
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Speaker 11: the ring.

972
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Speaker 16: How Joe Flacker feelings he can have practice it if.

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Speaker 11: You won't practice today, same schedule as we've been on

974
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Speaker 11: the last.

975
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Speaker 16: Couple weeks and that's just maintenance normal.

976
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Speaker 11: Yeah, Bill practice, Yes, well, he definitely start on Sunday.

977
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Speaker 11: We'll keep working through, you know, and see how we

978
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Speaker 11: go through the week.

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Speaker 16: Is that scenario bit Joe Burrow.

980
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Speaker 11: Joe Burrow hasn't practiced eleven on eleven yet, So, like

981
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Speaker 11: I said the other day, until we get through some practice,

982
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Speaker 11: there's no reason for me to even speculate on that.

983
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Speaker 18: Well without Flacco, like Wednesday kind of be Burrow's day

984
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Speaker 18: and then Thursday kind of Flaco's day.

985
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think you can certainly get a lot of

986
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Speaker 11: work in with Joe today, Joe Burrow today because Flacco

987
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Speaker 11: is not practicing. Because the plan has been getting into

988
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Speaker 11: eleven and eleven so it works well. So we're not

989
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Speaker 11: trying to balance the guy who is going to practice

990
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Speaker 11: on a Wednesday, Joe. Joe flaccol hasn't done that. We

991
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Speaker 11: got to think of another way to communicate this because

992
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Speaker 11: the two. Joe's that really is just this is getting

993
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Speaker 11: harder and harder every week that passes. But so we'll

994
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Speaker 11: get through today, and it is it's just good start

995
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Speaker 11: to get drawut there and eleven all eleven. See how

996
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Speaker 11: it goes well, Joe Burrow.

997
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Speaker 16: To eleven on eleven today, I think he might he.

998
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Speaker 11: Will, He'll do it.

999
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Speaker 17: Today's gotten a lot of praise for the job that

1000
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Speaker 17: they've done in rebuild with the entire team, but specifically

1001
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Speaker 17: on defense.

1002
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Speaker 16: Obviously that's Rabel's.

1003
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Speaker 17: You know, bread and butter, and you look at you

1004
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 17: played them last year. What's the biggest change you've seen

1005
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Speaker 17: in the defense this year?

1006
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Speaker 11: Yeah, impossible to compare that was that was a weak one.

1007
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 11: It's such a unique thing because they had a new

1008
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Speaker 11: staff last year. So ye'ar 's sure so that that

1009
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Speaker 11: one doesn't to me even count. I think that he's

1010
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Speaker 11: just done a great job. It's it's it's similar enough

1011
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 11: to what they did in Tennessee, but there's some differences,

1012
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 11: you know, and so again I think spending time away

1013
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 11: for a year, however you look at it, it's they've

1014
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Speaker 11: done a good job. There's some things that stayed the

1015
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Speaker 11: same that they're really hard nose playing defense. They do

1016
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Speaker 11: the they do the simple things really well. There's a

1017
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Speaker 11: physicality to them for sure that shows up. You know,

1018
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 11: there's there's a couple of guys that have been with

1019
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 11: Rabele in the past that he brings along, and some

1020
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Speaker 11: other guys that they added from around the league, and

1021
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Speaker 11: then the guys that have been there that they continue

1022
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Speaker 11: to grow within the organization. So it's a challenging defense.

1023
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Speaker 11: They do a really good job. It's not even a

1024
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Speaker 11: team that that overall has there won eight in a row.

1025
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Speaker 11: So you normally look at the turnover battle and think, Okay,

1026
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Speaker 11: they're dominating the term they're not. There's zero, you know,

1027
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Speaker 11: it's even for them, and so that that's an impressive

1028
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Speaker 11: way to win eight in a row when there's been

1029
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Speaker 11: games where it's where it's plus or minus, but overall

1030
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Speaker 11: at zero and so I think that that's just pretty

1031
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Speaker 11: impressive that they've been able to do what they do

1032
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Speaker 11: with the rector they have. That tells you that they're

1033
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Speaker 11: playing really sound football in all three phases.

1034
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Speaker 21: Guy, I think we forgot to ask about it on

1035
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Speaker 21: Monday smodd Ryan.

1036
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Speaker 11: Is he getting closer to be doubtful this week?

1037
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Speaker 18: You a lot about the defense on Monday and things

1038
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Speaker 18: that you want to fix going into this week, and

1039
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Speaker 18: there are any like positive examples that you've the staff

1040
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 18: is pointed to and said, like, here's what we wanted

1041
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 18: to look like from some things.

1042
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think there's a lot of great examples on

1043
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 11: first and second down where we won and got him

1044
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 11: to where we wanted and didn't necessarily finish all the time.

1045
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Speaker 11: There's times we did there was a there's a physicality

1046
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Speaker 11: there that I thought. Like I said, I thought the

1047
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Speaker 11: linebackers did a good job from an operational standpoint. So yeah,

1048
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Speaker 11: there's a lot of things to build on them that

1049
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Speaker 11: I think had been better than the weeks before. That's

1050
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Speaker 11: not our standards, not let's just be a little bit better.

1051
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Speaker 11: It's it's we want to completely raise the standard for

1052
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 11: a whole team. But there were some things that we

1053
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 11: got to continue to build on.

1054
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Speaker 16: Osa got a little dinged up at the beginning of

1055
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Speaker 16: the game. Obviously finished the game.

1056
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Speaker 2: Will he be out there today.

1057
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Speaker 11: Yeah, there's guys, of course that always get deemed back

1058
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 11: in the games, and we'll manage them through the week.

1059
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Speaker 11: But he's in good shape.

1060
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Speaker 21: No one makes it to the NFL by shying away

1061
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Speaker 21: from challenges. But a team that's one eight and rows

1062
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Speaker 21: that is something that you actually enjoy that, it's something that

1063
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 21: you want to go after and try to snap them.

1064
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Speaker 11: Yeah, it doesn't. I mean you kind of know what

1065
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 11: our mentality has been over the last couple of years,

1066
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Speaker 11: and these opportunities are fun ones, you know. It's it's

1067
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Speaker 11: all these games are meaningful. They've obviously they're in a

1068
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 11: really good rhythm and they've earned that, and so it's

1069
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Speaker 11: it's a great opportunity for us to find our rhythm,

1070
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Speaker 11: you know, to go out there and challenge them and

1071
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Speaker 11: put our best friot forward and see how it all

1072
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Speaker 11: falls and get some moment them. After this game, message

1073
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Speaker 11: jam Sunday, well, your your communications limited. I mean I

1074
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Speaker 11: talked to him immediately after the game, but the instance

1075
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Speaker 11: then you can't have communication with him, which is tricky.

1076
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Speaker 11: But again, he and I are in the same page

1077
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Speaker 11: of everything. I'll just keep that with me and Jamal.

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Speaker 16: When does that end postgames?

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00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 11: I think it's I'm not sure if it's four pm Monday,

1080
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 11: sometime on Monday.

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00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 20: What do you what would your expectations for him be

1082
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 20: during this no contact er?

1083
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 11: I can't talk to him, so I'm not expeculating.

1084
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 16: What have you seen from from Charlie Jones? And he

1085
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 16: thinks that he could potentially give.

1086
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 11: You think Charlie's got a lot of confidence in our offense,

1087
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 11: so again he's waiting for his opportunity. We've been really

1088
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 11: healthy at the spot, you know, so there hasn't been

1089
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 11: a lot of opportunity to take advantage hip. So I

1090
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 11: think this is one of those moments where where guys

1091
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 11: have an opportuny to make a name for himself. And

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00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 11: we'll keep working through that for practice and see where

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00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 11: it ends up on Sunday.

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00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 16: I asked you Monday and you said you have evaluated

1095
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 16: every day. Do you anticipate any starting lineup changes on defense?

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Speaker 11: What'll keep working through this week? Thank you?

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00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 18: Jack?

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00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 2: All right, back to back week Short and sweet for

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00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor.

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00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 3: I totally forgot about Charlie Jones. It's a good question

1101
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 3: from James there, because I totally forgot about Charlie Jones.

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00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 3: I would imagine we'll see a decent amount of him

1103
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: just because he knows the offense. But the exchange that

1104
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 3: I found most interesting there was about Joe Flacco won't

1105
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: practice today, did not say he would start on Sunday.

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00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 3: When asked is there a scenario where Joe Burrow would play,

1107
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 3: he said, Joe Burrow hasn't done eleven on eleven. He

1108
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 3: didn't say no.

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00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: And he said he will do eleven on eleven today, correct.

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00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: I think that's interesting.

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00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 3: I don't know that there's anything there, and who knows

1112
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: what Joe feels like or how practice goes or any

1113
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 3: of that.

1114
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: But it's interesting.

1115
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 3: It's been around this time in the past where the

1116
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 3: Bengals have made some moves thinking about next year. You

1117
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: may remember Andy Dalton. Andy Dalton was benched for three games.

1118
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 3: Sure that helped him get Joe Burrow. You know, I

1119
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 3: don't know that Joe's going to start. Maybe Jake Browning

1120
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 3: could play.

1121
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1122
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 2: It's all speculating.

1123
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 3: It's interesting, but I found that exchange to feel like, Okay,

1124
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 3: there might be a little bit more there. And he

1125
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 3: was letting on also on Sunday after the game, Zach

1126
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 3: very quickly shot down any personnel changes today. He said

1127
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 3: they will work through the week and see what happens. Yeah,

1128
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 3: so not on the defensive side of the ball. I

1129
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: also thought just to clarify. I think it's fair to clarify.

1130
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase cannot be in the building or have contact

1131
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: until Monday, so that's kind of how that works. No

1132
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: mention of Jermaine Burton in that press.

1133
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: Conference did go out of his way to mention Mitchell Tinsley,

1134
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 3: he did. I think if Kasiki's back, Burton may not dress.

1135
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 3: It's crazy right without Jamar is it?

1136
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: Man? I can't believe he's still on the team. Honestly,

1137
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: that's like that. The thing for me is, why is

1138
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: he then on the team? Just in case? Well, just

1139
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: in case, you would think, just in case Jamar Chase

1140
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: isn't playing.

1141
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 3: Just in case, I would have kept Isaiah Williams over

1142
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 3: Jermaine Burton. Right, dude can return punts? Oh man, what

1143
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 3: a world? What a day there is. I understand this

1144
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 3: is not how we want it to be. We don't

1145
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 3: want to dive into elite losing football team. But there

1146
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 3: are enough things happening that make the week in the

1147
00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: game itself interesting because of the various storylines throughout the

1148
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 3: rest of the year. Was still seven games left.

1149
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: I was at dinner with a couple friends last night

1150
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: and someone asked me how hard is it on radio

1151
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: when the team is struggling, And I said, normally it

1152
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: can be challenging. I said, but oddly enough, this team

1153
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: has so many interesting storylines that it's it's something you

1154
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: can easily talk about.

1155
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: I think there was a period of time where it

1156
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 3: was kind of difficult because we were just saying the

1157
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 3: same thing over and over. There wasn't much change offense,

1158
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 3: good defense, bad, no good tackling. And then we get

1159
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 3: the you know, Mike Florio thing about Duke Tob and

1160
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 3: I'm sure they fired Duketob and I'm sure they fire

1161
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor. Now Joe Burrow.

1162
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: Come.

1163
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 3: It's gotten better. But for a while there, it was

1164
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 3: just same thing every day. Yeah, and you know, at

1165
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,959
Speaker 3: least there's there's some changes, there's some stuff to look for.

1166
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: I think it changes the way you watch the game,

1167
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 3: at least for me. I spent so much of Sunday

1168
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 3: watching Miles Murphy. Yeah, so much watching Cedric Johnson, so

1169
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 3: much watching Barrett Carter, just seeing like, what are these

1170
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 3: guys doing? And I think that's kind of how you, yeah,

1171
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 3: look at games like this too.

1172
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we uh, we have much more to discuss as

1173
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: it relates to any other big takeaway from Zach Taylor.

1174
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 3: Before we move on. Hold on, let me let me

1175
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 3: see what did I write down here?

1176
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: I wrote down the Burrow him being at eleven on eleven,

1177
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: Flacco not practicing, and Jamar Chase not able to be

1178
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: in the building.

1179
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 3: I wrote, Mike g sicky, sounds like he's gonna play.

1180
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 3: Mitchell Tinsley mentioned Flacco won't practice, not guaranteed to start,

1181
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: p Ryan doubtful again. Charlie Jones totally forgot about him

1182
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 3: and potential changes to the defensive starting lineup.

1183
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it doesn't feel as if Dejon Anthony is

1184
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 2: close enough to push genostone. We'll see unfortunately. All right,

1185
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 2: let's break, let's come back. Your talkbacks for the day

1186
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: next ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, thanks to our

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1203
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Speaker 2: them for that and for today's talkbacks.

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Speaker 23: Good morning. My name is Charlie, Bengals fan. Thanks for

1208
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 23: taking my call. Love the show. The Bengals should definitely

1209
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 23: be number one on the hot mess list. Mike Brown's

1210
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 23: a joe, Duke. Tobin's a joke. They never really do

1211
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 23: anything to prop up the defense for years. It's gross.

1212
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 23: Still my team, still by the gear. Going to see

1213
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 23: him in Miami in December.

1214
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: Thank gus, all right, thank you appreciate down there, Charlie,

1215
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: Tony Oddie.

1216
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 24: What's happening Leana truck here? I just want to lead

1217
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 24: his talk back to Taff High School.

1218
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 25: Man.

1219
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 24: I know the media loves to points out in a

1220
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 24: bad light, and who cares about the truth when the

1221
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 24: last more entertaining man, But.

1222
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: Tyler, keep running a hell of a program down.

1223
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 24: There, you go, faculty members down there, keep doing y'all

1224
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,479
Speaker 24: thing down there for those kids. Man, it's a shame

1225
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 24: that the Cincinnati public school systems don't got y'all back. Man,

1226
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 24: But kids, y'all keep shoving for greatness down there. Keep

1227
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 24: doing y'all thing down there, and we love y'all.

1228
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: Okay, what did I miss something? So what's going on?

1229
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 2: Something came up yesterday where there was a photo going

1230
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 2: around of the Indian Hill visitor locker room and there

1231
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: were holes punched in the wall all over the locker room,

1232
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 2: and so stories started running locally that you know, authorities

1233
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 2: were looking into it and that obviously Taft had played there,

1234
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 2: and so people, I think a little bit too early,

1235
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 2: jumped the gun and accused Taft. And then a video

1236
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 2: later surfaced of someone that was taking a video as

1237
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 2: Taft was entering into the locker room, which showed the

1238
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 2: holes were already in the wall. So now you're seeing

1239
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 2: a lot of backtracking because people kind of ran with

1240
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: it before I think knowing the full story. I don't

1241
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 2: know if the full full story is out there yet,

1242
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: but there seems to be a video out that that

1243
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:15,959
Speaker 2: the holes were already there.

1244
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 26: Interesting, Austin my co workers in Madison, Indiana. Have your

1245
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 26: NFL team to root for the rest of this season?

1246
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: Colts Coats, Colts.

1247
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: Coat, Let's go.

1248
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 3: Jeff got the co workers in on it and sound

1249
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 3: effects rank them. I don't know if I'm ready to

1250
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 3: root for the Colts, Okay. I don't know if I

1251
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 3: want to put my faith in Danny Dimes.

1252
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 2: Okay, Happy hump Day. This is cabin in Architect.

1253
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:59,479
Speaker 27: He's talked back on Tony Pike's Sincy three sixty feet.

1254
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 5: Trigg often chopped liver elmore. Tony, are you going to

1255
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 5: be a guest on the big pregame show this Saturday?

1256
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the bear cast game.

1257
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 23: And if so, are you going to talk about what's

1258
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 23: going on with our head coach?

1259
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 5: Scott scattered in his shorts.

1260
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 2: Oh my, I don't think. I don't think so good day,

1261
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 2: don't you?

1262
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 13: You know?

1263
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 5: I can think it's your Incinnati sports Omier.

1264
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 28: Given the NFL's season events and the way that the

1265
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 28: Cincinnati Bengals name has been sullied, I must declare them

1266
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 28: the greatest under dogs in sports history, and therefore I

1267
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 28: ask you root for them even harder.

1268
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 5: Does this mean that we're watching all seven remaining games?

1269
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 28: Yes it does, Bart, but I'll make your favorite shaved

1270
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 28: borderhouse beats out.

1271
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 29: No.

1272
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: No, we's judged, Thank you, Homer. Love each other.

1273
01:04:52,640 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 30: I never opened my mouth to that guy, wasn't.

1274
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 3: He did not sit on.

1275
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 25: That's what you saying.

1276
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 30: I never opened my mouth today. Guy.

1277
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 3: Now you could view jamar As as saying a double negative.

1278
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 3: I ain't spit on nobody which could say telling the

1279
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 3: truth told and he got a box.

1280
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 14: John.

1281
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm getting in a little late.

1282
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 31: But Man's and seven called in a couple of days ago,

1283
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 31: and I believe he said he hated the Steelers in Michigan.

1284
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 31: Man's and seven. Why do you hate Michigan? Is it

1285
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 31: because the team you root for loses to them? I

1286
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 31: have no idea who you root for. But if that's

1287
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 31: the case, then you must hate the reading memorial day

1288
01:05:55,160 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 31: three on three because you stay losing down there, Bob Baby.

1289
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 3: Mads and seven May got his wires crossed here yep,

1290
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 3: which is not a surprise. Yep, MAVs and seven and

1291
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 3: balling ain't easier two different people, John, Yep.

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Speaker 2: Now MAVs and seven. They want to change his name

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Speaker 2: because MAVs in seven is essentially how many games it

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Speaker 2: took for the Dallas Mavericks to be eliminated from playoff

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Speaker 2: contention this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cooper Flag looks pretty terrible, boy. I'm happy for

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Speaker 3: uh Moon though his super Bowl's coming up next Saturday.

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Speaker 32: Yes, Hi, love your show. What a fun first hour

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Speaker 32: that was, Thank you. I was wondering if there's any

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01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 32: truth to the rumor I heard years ago that the Bengals,

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01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 32: in order to fulfill the Rooney role requirement, simply turned

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Speaker 32: around and did a soft interview of Marvin Lewis, the

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01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,919
Speaker 32: guy that they literally just fired because the Bengals were

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01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 32: too lazy and cheap to bring anyone else in.

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Speaker 2: Is this true?

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Speaker 3: I don't believe. I don't believe that's true. It's not true.

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Speaker 27: After seeing how badly the UK looked last night. I

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01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 27: think you guys don't have as much to worry about

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01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 27: with Louisville as you might have thought you did, because Kentucky, frankly.

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Speaker 5: Is not very good.

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Speaker 27: By the way, this will be my last TikTok this week.

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Speaker 27: My next one will be from will be next week

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Speaker 27: from somewhere else in the United States.

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Speaker 2: Man, guess where. I'll give you a hint.

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Speaker 16: I'll be where my daughter is now living.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you remember a couple of weeks ago, Ken

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01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 3: told us that his daughter lives. I believe in Salt

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Speaker 3: Lake City. Man, Ken just travels the world.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what he's got it made. He does.

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Speaker 3: His teams might stink, but he gets to go around

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01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 3: and great counterpart.

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01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: Though. Maybe maybe there is hope for the Bearcats.

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Speaker 26: Hey, Jim and Milford, Hey, if you want to increase

1324
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 26: the TV ratings for the Pro Bowl and all these

1325
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 26: different skill challenges, let's do a spending contest.

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Speaker 2: What do you think? I don't think that would work?

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01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 2: He really thought, he he joked with that one.

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Speaker 23: I don't think Hey, guys, Marcus from the Groove.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, the honeymoon phase with Mark Poe and.

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Speaker 23: Died for me.

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Speaker 4: After this Week sixteen layup last season, and with the

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Speaker 4: start that we've got this year, I'm starting to think

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01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 4: that he might not be the guy.

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Speaker 5: I think last night was just pitiful.

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Speaker 4: Louisville was just pitiful. I think I think we made

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Speaker 4: a mistake on that one.

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Speaker 23: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Now I believe I saw or read somewhere they've spent

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01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 2: like twenty two million on that roster and if they're

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Speaker 2: not winning.

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Speaker 25: Okay, So about what Ben Roethlisbergers said. Anybody with two

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Speaker 25: eyes and tummon since can tell that the Steelers are

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Speaker 25: a dirty team. It's just what they do every year,

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01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 25: every almost every game. All you got to do is

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Speaker 25: go back and look at the film for their dirty hits.

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Speaker 2: Watch the film.

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Speaker 25: I think what he's saying is competitively, they don't respect

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Speaker 25: the Bengals is a true rival like they do the

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Speaker 25: Ravens because they haven't won anything like the Ravens have,

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01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 25: and then the rivalry is way one sided. I mean,

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Speaker 25: the Steelers are forty two and nineteen over the last

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Speaker 25: thirty years versus Home.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, I'll take your take.

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Speaker 33: Prosecution of Mike Brown day two. We all know Mike's

1355
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:23,839
Speaker 33: processes are flawed.

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Speaker 16: Every number proves it.

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Speaker 25: His definition of winning.

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Speaker 33: Is flawed as well, the valuable franchise and one of

1359
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 33: the lowest winning percentages as an owner. Winning to him

1360
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 33: is a contractual success. Nick constantly bites him in the urs.

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Speaker 33: If you really want somethingbody you're willing to change. Also,

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Speaker 33: did you know the Bengals have the third least amount

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Speaker 33: of Hall of Famers. Things that make you say, hmmm,

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Speaker 33: let's get Kenny in there.

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Speaker 7: Okay, thank you, Ardie. As usual, you are one point. Yes,

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Speaker 7: it's been like that since the Bengals inception. The Steelers

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01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 7: have always disrespected the Bengals. It just always goes that way,

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Speaker 7: and you hardly ever hear. Oftentimes there's not even a flag.

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Speaker 7: They have single handedly ended playoff and potential Super Bowl

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Speaker 7: runs correct and sometimes it seems like it's on purpose.

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Speaker 7: But every time it goes the other way, it's like

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Speaker 7: a federal case. They're turning into crybags. I'm not saying

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Speaker 7: what Chase did was right, but there's another side.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there are two sides to every story.

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Speaker 5: If you want a little hope him for the defense.

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Speaker 9: Okay.

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Speaker 15: Seattle, for instance, has gone from twenty fourth to fourteenth

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01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 15: to nine. Now I think so, you know, it is

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01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 15: possible to make things happen fairly quickly.

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Speaker 2: The only difference in Seattle is their coach is a

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Speaker 2: proven defensive genius. That's the only difference.

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Speaker 5: Is all right him, you'll be a bliss.

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Speaker 13: That's Austin.

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Speaker 12: You said something insightful, which is rare. So I had

1385
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 12: to do a little talking too on it. You said,

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01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 12: Mike Brown wants to win. He doesn't any hate flus,

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01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 12: wants to win his way, and his way has flaws. Well,

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01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 12: the same with Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones wants to win,

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Speaker 12: but it has to be his way. He would rather

1390
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 12: than lose doing it his way than let somebody else

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Speaker 12: be in charge. And there's the problem.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's fair.

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01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 34: Yeah, Kenny Anderson has got to be put in the

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01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 34: Hall of Fame.

1395
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 2: Is just so ridiculous.

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Speaker 34: Agree, the Pistons are something else?

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Speaker 5: Okay, see unreal.

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01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 34: Seems like Zach Taylor's had enough press conferences for one week. Yeah,

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Speaker 34: it's Taylor's Bengals. They tried to kill our punter two

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01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 34: different times. You know, it's it's bad when that happened.

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Speaker 35: Yeah, it's the Lord.

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01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 2: Hey, Lord.

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Speaker 35: The silent reporters always asked Zach Taylor going into halftime,

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01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 35: so what adjustments do you think you'll make? He always

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01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 35: brings up, well, we need to make defensive stops and

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01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 35: get to create turnovers. He may want to tell that

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01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 35: to your team back.

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01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 2: It's true.

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01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 36: No love, no love, no love for that city up

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01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 36: there in the city, Sonny, Come on, Ben, I heard

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01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,799
Speaker 36: your Pittsburgh's a flywer city. One of the worst stadiums,

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01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 36: the worst cities I've received, Flower City, ugly colors, yellow

1413
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 36: and black pirates to the pitt Panthers, to the Squealers.

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01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 2: Man sucks man.

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01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 36: I ain't forgot about what you guys did us back

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01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 36: in the day. That's why we don't like that city.

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01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 36: That's why we don't like that team. I gotta respectful

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Speaker 36: the Cleveland Browns and I got for them real talk.

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01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 2: And the Ravens Now, I don't respect them neither. It's

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01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: all about Bengals, okay.

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Speaker 37: I mean, you want to talk about a team that's

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01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 37: built for sports radio. I mean, lucky you guys. They

1423
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 37: just put it on a fee for you and you

1424
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 37: just got to hit it. I mean, every single day,

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01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 37: it's something new with the screw Having said that the organization.

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01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 37: You have two of the best players in the sport,

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01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 37: two of the best in the sport. You think the

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01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 37: Saints or the Jets would want Joe Burrow and Jamar

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01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 37: Chase to start their franchises they had into free agency.

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Speaker 2: In the draft.

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Speaker 37: You already have that this is not a little tear down.

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01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 37: You can't fix this if you're competent, which I'm not

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01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 37: quite sure they are.

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01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:06,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is fixable.

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01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 3: I do not think this is a complete rebuild, and

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01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 3: I think that's part of the reason why Zach will

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01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 3: probably keep his job. And you know, whether you agree

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01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 3: with that or not, I can see a world that

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01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 3: they are a playoff team next year.

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Speaker 2: I can.

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01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 5: Okay, did I hear.

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01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 4: Zach say something about first and second down we're quote

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Speaker 4: unquote good.

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01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 25: Is he referring to Pittsburgh went on every second and

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01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,440
Speaker 25: ten we ran the ball with almost no success.

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01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 2: I'm hoping I heard that wrong, But if you guys

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01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 2: heard it.

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01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,839
Speaker 3: Differently, please I think he was talking about the defense.

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01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 3: There was some good tackling on first and second downs.

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01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 3: On defense, If you remember, there was conversions of third

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Speaker 3: and ten, third and eleven, third and seventeen, third and

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01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 3: sixteen eleven. Yeah, so they did get him in third

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01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 3: and long.

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01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 5: All right.

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01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 2: I think he was talking can we.

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01:13:58,600 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 9: Find out what?

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01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 37: Talkbackers into Zach Taylor's press conference and asked the question

1458
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 37: about looking.

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Speaker 1: Ahead to Thursday night.

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Speaker 16: He was that guy.

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Speaker 2: It took a while to get there.

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Speaker 38: What What other NFL teams can you think of that

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01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 38: struggle to score offensively because they can't scheme their way

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01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 38: out of what the defense is showing them in coverage.

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01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 38: I mean, typically it's because they don't have enough talent.

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 38: But when I think about the Bengals, I think about

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01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 38: how Zach Taylor can't scheme against zone coverage against the

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01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 38: Steelers to get anything done offensively. And then I also

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Speaker 38: think about twenty twenty two during the first part of

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Speaker 38: the season, when he could have schemed his way out

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Speaker 38: of cover two.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, we did. We did have a

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Speaker 2: lengthy conversation about cover two a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: I think you can go back and look at the

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01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 3: film from Pittsburgh and see there was a handful of

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01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 3: plays that Joe Flacco missed. There was at least two

1477
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 3: where Noahfense was wide open for a touchdown. And Flacco

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01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 3: didn't hit him and it was either a protection issue

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01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 3: or Flacco checked it down or whatever it was. I

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01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 3: think the big thing is that third option hasn't been winning.

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01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 3: Fant won a couple times, Yoshibas hasn't won enough.

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01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 31: Uh.

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01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 3: Maybe with Kiseki back, that has a role in it.

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01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 3: I understand your counter to that would be you have

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01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase and T Higgins.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: But there are some plays that the Bengals offensively left

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01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 3: out there, and specifically the quarterback left out there against

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Speaker 3: the Steelers.

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01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 5: There's two sides of her story.

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01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 23: One's a line and one's the true and Mike Brown

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01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 23: and the Bengals front office have been lying to it

1493
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 23: our sales for years, thinking that their way works.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Thank you, Kevin. It was our last one,

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Speaker 2: all right, A break and a football in the Natty

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Speaker 2: that we're gonna have some fun with when we come back.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back football in Nati. Here we go ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. It's our number two. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: switch gears in our number three. We're gonna get some

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Speaker 2: college basketball on multiple fronts. But before we get to that, Austin,

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Speaker 2: I thought we could have some fun here because Matt

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Speaker 2: Miller came up with his twenty twenty six NFL Mock

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Speaker 2: Draft first round predictions. Okay, and I thought, what better

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01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 2: time than now to dive right in. I like Matt

1510
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 2: Miller with both feet. Now here's what's almost comical to me.

1511
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 2: Restaurant named after him. The Jets the number one overall pick.

1512
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: They have this as a projected trade with the Tennessee Titans.

1513
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: Titans have their quarterback. Jets. Don't Jets move up to

1514
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 2: number one? They tast of all.

1515
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 3: I love that it is a November mock draft with

1516
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 3: a projected trade at number one.

1517
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 2: I like that a lot. We go right, we go

1518
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 2: right into it. Fernando mendo first one off the board.

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01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 3: That would be an unmitigated disaster in the city of

1520
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 3: New York.

1521
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza.

1522
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on with Fernando Mendoza. But

1523
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 3: I think there's some layers of the onion that need

1524
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 3: to be be peeled back a little bit.

1525
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 2: I feel like when I watch him in interviews, it

1526
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: looks like he's reading off a script.

1527
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 3: I don't know someone I don't want to say something,

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01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 3: you know, sure inappropriate or insensitive. Yeah, but I would

1529
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 3: worry about that in that city. But okay, let's go ahead.

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01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 2: Well let's let's let's get even better here. Number two,

1531
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 2: the Browns swap spots with the Giants and they take

1532
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 2: Dante More quarterback from Oregon. Okay, but the Browns Dylan

1533
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 2: Gabriel Shador Sanders. Let's take another one. They get the

1534
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 2: Oregon quarterback at number two. Now number three, the Giants

1535
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 2: we get into uh, they take a tackle from Myamy.

1536
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 2: The Tennessee Titans take Jordan Tyson, wide receiver from Arizona State.

1537
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 2: Good player. The Raiders. Number five, they find their quarterback

1538
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 2: in ty Simpson. Already what I'm seeing here, Austin not

1539
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: a great quarterback class. Yeah, we've all known that for

1540
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: a while. Three out of the top five are quarterbacks.

1541
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 2: According to Matt Miller's first round mock draft of twenty

1542
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 2: twenty six, which is hard to even say on November nineteenth,

1543
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 2: but here we are. That's what happens when you get

1544
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 2: three wins on a season. The New Orleans Saints Austin

1545
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 2: rvel Reese linebacker, Ohio State, that's a shame. Number seven

1546
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders take Reuben Bain junior edge rusher from

1547
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 2: Miami and then to back edge rushers. Number eight the

1548
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, and he guess, I hope Caleb Downs Keldrick

1549
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 2: Falk edge rusher. That would be a Bengals pick Auburn,

1550
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 2: a guy who's ginormous and strong and powerful, but doesn't

1551
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 2: do anything boom. He's got like uh he is two

1552
01:18:56,240 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 2: sacks six six eighty five with two sacks, no force, humble,

1553
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 2: no interceptions.

1554
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 3: That would infuriate me. If Downs is there and they

1555
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 3: took Kendrick was that was going to be the point

1556
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 3: I was making on this Now. In twenty twenty four,

1557
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 3: he did have seven sacks, which is what two and

1558
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 3: a half more than what.

1559
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 2: Who am I thinking of? Jamar Stewart had in his career.

1560
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 2: So seven sacks in twenty twenty four, but just to

1561
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 2: this year only been in on a total of twenty

1562
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: six tackles, just just don't shoot the messenger. This is

1563
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 2: just the mock draft. Can you imagine, though, Austin, if

1564
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 2: Caleb Downs is sitting there at number eight and the

1565
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 2: Bengals pass on him and take a physical monster but

1566
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 2: just not putting up the stats on the field.

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01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 3: It would basically be Karl Lawston Part two. I've looked

1568
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 3: this up while you were talking. The next pick, he

1569
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 3: has Caleb Downs going to Arizona and it says, quote, yep,

1570
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 3: Downs is the top player on my board. So his

1571
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 3: top board Matt Miller's number top you know whatever?

1572
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 2: Is Caleb Downs amazing, best player on the board. And

1573
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 2: it says the Cardinals need a safety upgrade. What is

1574
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 2: Matt Miller watching?

1575
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 3: I think it's a good mock draft because he's basing

1576
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 3: it off the history and the strands that the Bengals

1577
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 3: have done.

1578
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 2: This wouldn't surprise me. No, it would be maddening if

1579
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 2: Caleb Downs were there and they get a physical specimen

1580
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 2: that just hasn't quite produced yet.

1581
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 3: You know, Caleb downs middle name, what is it? Third mmm?

1582
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 3: I thought it was turnover. And also I like that

1583
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 3: you can do money money Downs. I like that a lot.

1584
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 3: I would be thrilled if they got does he have?

1585
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 3: Does he have Cayden McDonald going?

1586
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: Uh, Spencer, let me tell you this now, ten Spencer

1587
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 2: Fono of the the tackle from Utah. That dude's a

1588
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 2: monster as well. Jeremiah Love is up here. Who'd you

1589
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 2: ask for? Uh, Cayden McDonald. Cayden McDonald. He's got Cardial

1590
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 2: Tate going to the Steelers nineteen damn it. Nineteen damn it.

1591
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 2: He's got Cayden McDonald at twenty three to the Niners. Yeah,

1592
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 2: that dude's a beast.

1593
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 3: So you're thinking trade back, I think that's I'm not kidding.

1594
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 3: I think that's possible trade back. The Bengals tried to

1595
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 3: trade back in the first round this year and they couldn't.

1596
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 2: I think the Bengals have to address linebacker, and they'll

1597
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 2: take Anthony Hill Junior, who on Matt Miller's list right

1598
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,719
Speaker 2: now is number thirty two. They reached for Anthony Hill.

1599
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be surprised if he took a corner either. Yeah,

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01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I did. I had to laugh because I'm

1601
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 2: scrolling down this earlier today and I'm like Ketdrick and

1602
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 2: so now I'm like, all right, let me, look up,

1603
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: Keldric falk, I would lose my two sacks six six

1604
01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 2: eighty five, it says built in the mold of that's right,

1605
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 2: Hendrick said, Oh yeah, great, Caleb Downs would still be

1606
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 2: on the board. Oh after they just passed on Jehad

1607
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 2: Campbell last year, let's pass again on a the best

1608
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 2: player in Matt Miller's board. What a shock that would be.

1609
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 2: That's fun though, right November wouldn't be a shock at all.

1610
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 3: But if Duke Tobin thinks she's had some bad days

1611
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 3: on this station over the last couple of weeks, Oh,

1612
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 3: hell hath no fury like me? If that happened, Downs

1613
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 3: is passed for Kildrin. If I'm on the air the

1614
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 3: night of the draft, oh God help me. If I'm

1615
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 3: still here, And if I'm on the air the night

1616
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 3: of April or the day after, God help Duke Tobin.

1617
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 3: If that's the case, Hell hath no fury like an

1618
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 3: Audie scorned, like audio unchanged.

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01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 2: I saw that this morning. My goodness. Let's uh, let's

1620
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 2: marinate with that for a second. We'll take a break.

1621
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 2: She's doing. Let's call her in hour two when we

1622
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 2: get back on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN

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01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 39: Still since He three sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 39: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, since he three sixty, It's ESPN fifteen thirty

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01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks to our friends at since He's shirts,

1629
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 2: we have not looked ahead at all to what's coming

1630
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,600
Speaker 2: up this weekend or even now this week from a

1631
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 2: college football and NFL standpoint, We've got a couple minutes

1632
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: here before we switch gears to college basketball. We do

1633
01:23:55,080 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 2: get the return of macshin this evening. Austin Amy of

1634
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 2: Ohio is a Buffalo. Okay, Miami's going through it a

1635
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 2: little bit right now.

1636
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:07,480
Speaker 3: Most famous NFL player to come out of Buffalo.

1637
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 2: U Khalil Mark. Yeah. D kwan Finn. Did you have

1638
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 2: you followed along with this?

1639
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 3: I don't know much about him. I saw he was

1640
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 3: focusing on the NFL, and then I saw the stats,

1641
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 3: and then I laughed out loud.

1642
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, seventh year guy. Da Kwan Finn is no longer

1643
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,560
Speaker 2: with Miami. He was a big get from Toledo to

1644
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 2: how many years? Seven years? Oh my lord, So in

1645
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 2: year seven he's like, you know what, I'm just gonna

1646
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 2: step away from the team and go focus on the NFL.

1647
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 3: I think the interest from NFL teams between myself and

1648
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:40,839
Speaker 3: Dakwan Finn is not that different.

1649
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, started at Baylor, went to Toledo, finished at Miami.

1650
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: Seven year player, three teams, has left the program. He's

1651
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 2: left the building to begin preparing for the NFL. Aka

1652
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 2: to me, and I don't have inside info, that would

1653
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 2: mean he probably quit on the team. It would seem

1654
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 2: that way back. Why else would you leave the team

1655
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 2: in the middle of the year, Yeah, because things aren't

1656
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 2: going your way.

1657
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 3: By the way, I just saw a picture that You've

1658
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 3: talked about this a lot, Joe Burrow being able to

1659
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 3: push off with that left foot from under center.

1660
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1661
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 3: Kelsey Conway just posted a picture of him doing exactly that. Okay,

1662
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 3: working with Ted Carriss on the quarterback center exchange and

1663
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 3: Burrow of course starting eleven on eleven work today.

1664
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 2: I just think that's notable.

1665
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, just get the ball turned around, that's yeah,

1666
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 3: and walk through type speed, that's one thing.

1667
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1668
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 2: I think the the initial explosion I think is going

1669
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 2: to be interesting.

1670
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:43,719
Speaker 3: Is that something? Because explain this to me. I see

1671
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 3: some quarterbacks kind of have their left foot back, some

1672
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,879
Speaker 3: quarterbacks have their right foot back. Is there a science

1673
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 3: behind that?

1674
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 2: So ideally you want you want to be as even

1675
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 2: as possible. But the main thing is you want to

1676
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 2: avoid a step with your left foot as you're turning

1677
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 2: away from the center. That false step you got the

1678
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 2: center being pushed back. You've got guards that are pulling

1679
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 2: at times. I can't I couldn't count the times I've

1680
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 2: been stepped on pulling away from under center, right, And

1681
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 2: that's that's got to be a worry too, yes, And

1682
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 2: that's a huge worry about anything under center. So for me,

1683
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 2: it was easier to put my left foot a little

1684
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 2: further up when I was under center, because if your

1685
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 2: left foot is further up, you would be less opposed

1686
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 2: to picking that foot up and moving it more forward,

1687
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. If my right foot's up,

1688
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 2: I'm almost just swapping out. So if my left foot's forward,

1689
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 2: now I'm just taking it and I'm pushing straight back

1690
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 2: as quick as I can to get away from the center.

1691
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 2: So that to me, again, that has to be quick

1692
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 2: and violent like when we we were always taught, like

1693
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 2: with our drops, that first step has to be fast

1694
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 2: and huge, and then your next couple of steps you're

1695
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 2: just kind of getting your balance back. But you've got

1696
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 2: a care e a a large, large amount of separation

1697
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 2: in that first step.

1698
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 3: And is is that like quarterback preference on the step

1699
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 3: about your foot?

1700
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, was more comfortable, But again the main thing is

1701
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 2: you however you do it, you got to avoid a

1702
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: fall step because then you're stepping closer to the center

1703
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 2: and if you've got a nose guard that's pushing at all,

1704
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Ted Krris is now stepping on

1705
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 2: that left foot. No, no, no, no, no no. You

1706
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 2: see all the time when quarterbacks fall. Who fell earlier

1707
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 2: in the year and they scored a touchdown off it?

1708
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, that like that's just the

1709
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,759
Speaker 2: guard is pulling you get stepped on. It just creates

1710
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: a bad scenario. Interesting, real quick, it is a do

1711
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 2: we call this the bye week in college football? For

1712
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 2: the most part, not a ton of marquee games. I

1713
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 2: mean that the top teams Texas A and M's playing Sandford,

1714
01:27:54,200 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 2: Ohio State has Rutgers, Missouri, Ohome, the formidable fighting for

1715
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 2: ball eligibility. All right, let's get Todd Fraser on the show. Yeah,

1716
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 2: what's he doing, Let's call him. I think I saw

1717
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 2: thirty three and a half.

1718
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 3: Thirty one and a half. Okay, and that's with Smith

1719
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 3: and Tate. Yeah, questionable, that's yep, yep. I'm sure the

1720
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 3: Ohio State in Michigan and Indiana are not pleased with

1721
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 3: the rest of the conference, which has been a running

1722
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 3: joke for a while. With that conference agreed, there is

1723
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 3: only one other Top twenty five matchup this weekend outside

1724
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 3: of Missouri and Oklahoma. That would be usc Is traveling

1725
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 3: to Autson Stadium to take on Oregon. So you get

1726
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 3: that outside of Georgia is gonna take on one and

1727
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 3: nine Charlotte that spread his forty three and a half

1728
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 3: game for the forty nine ers. Notre Dame host Syracuse,

1729
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 3: Vanderbilt takes on Kentucky. What's Syracuse record three and seven?

1730
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 3: I was a believer in fran Brown. Yeah, it hasn't

1731
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 3: worked out. Well, I remember exchanging texts with Dan Horde

1732
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 3: about Frank Brown in the future of Syracuse football. Okay, well,

1733
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 3: I haven't heard much from Dan about that lately?

1734
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 2: Does the NFL slate get any better? Steelers Bears, the

1735
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 2: fate of Aaron Rodgers still up a good game, especially

1736
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 2: if Rodgers plays. I think Tomorrow night's sneaky good with

1737
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 2: the Texans getting.

1738
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 3: Too five and five. Yeah, CJ. Stroud not gonna play

1739
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 3: not gonna play it. And I keep seeing the clips

1740
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 3: of that concussion. That's just a gnarly concussion, Davis Mills.

1741
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 3: But that Texas Houston Texans front seven is nasty, dude.

1742
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 3: They create problems on opposing team's offenses. So uh yeah,

1743
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 3: I think that might be a sneaky good game.

1744
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 2: Lions cannot lose a step against the Giants because the

1745
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 2: Lions are out of the playoffs right now. Looking in, Packers, Vikings, Seahawks, Titans, Colts, Chiefs,

1746
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 2: Colts Chiefs would be a good one coach coming off

1747
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 2: of bye Chiefs. Also on the outside, looking in, the

1748
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 2: Jets take on the Baltimore Ravens, Brown's Raiders. That's a

1749
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 2: terrible game.

1750
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 3: Flex that to Sunday Night with Shadaddy out there, Eagles, Cowboys,

1751
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 3: Time Time, Bucks, Rams, Sunday Night.

1752
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm in. I like the Monday night game Panthers.

1753
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 3: Hopkins. Yeah for Panthers, Niners six and five Panthers. But

1754
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 3: I think that's a sneaky good game right there. For

1755
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 3: Carolina Dave Doutas, I'm a big fan of his, Rico,

1756
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 3: Uncle Rico. Yeah, that Sunday night game is going to

1757
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 3: be electric.

1758
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,799
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break. Let's come back. College

1759
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 2: basketball last night locally not good for the Kentucky Wildcats.

1760
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that, and a big bounce back win for

1761
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 2: Richard Patino and Xavier we'll get to both of those.

1762
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey in an interview he did with Lance. We

1763
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 2: got a couple of minutes of that, and we'll talk

1764
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 2: some Cincinnati cancer advisors as well. All on our number three,

1765
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 2: Sincy three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Dam.

1766
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati,

1767
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:49,240
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1768
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Speaker 1: hot grilled subs, fresh cut fries in lemonade. It's all

1769
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Speaker 1: mine today. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. It is our three and we

1772
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,759
Speaker 2: thank our friends at Penn Station. Thank you for listening

1773
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,600
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station or via the

1774
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. Obviously, we've talked all week about the Cincinnati Bengals.

1775
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 2: We'll talk more about the Bengals over the next couple

1776
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 2: of days, as well as a big matchup coming to

1777
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:26,759
Speaker 2: Clifton between UC and BYU. What we have not done

1778
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 2: yet is really dive into the college basketball world. And

1779
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:33,719
Speaker 2: there are some things happening locally that we do need

1780
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 2: to discuss, and we'll do so in this hour. We'll

1781
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 2: talk about the matchup on Friday night. Today and tomorrow

1782
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 2: you'll hear a conversation that Pat Kelsey had with Lance

1783
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 2: McCallister last night, the head coach of Louisville, as they

1784
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,600
Speaker 2: get ready to come to Heritage Bank Arena and tomorrow.

1785
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:50,639
Speaker 2: As of now, we are said to have Wes Miller

1786
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 2: on the show to get a bearcat perspective of the

1787
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 2: matchup coming to Heritage Bank Arena on Friday between UC

1788
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:01,600
Speaker 2: and Louisville. Of course, it is a busy Friday in

1789
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 2: the Queen City and a busy weekend. Elder Saint X

1790
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 2: has been moved to pay Court Stadium on Friday night.

1791
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 2: Big noon kickoff comes to Clifton on Saturday, and then

1792
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 2: an eight pm start follow that at a one o'clock

1793
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 2: start for the Bengals and the New England Patriots. And

1794
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:24,679
Speaker 2: it's back the MLS Playoffs Sunday night, TQL Stadium, FC

1795
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and enter Miami with Leonel Messi coming into town.

1796
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 2: This is different, right, Austin. This is a winning one

1797
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,879
Speaker 2: and done. This is no longer a three game series anymore.

1798
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 5: Correct?

1799
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 2: Okay, winning, you're done whenning, you move on. Lose and

1800
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 2: your season ends right now. In the MLS last night,

1801
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 2: Xavier and Kentucky both in action, both with far different results.

1802
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 2: Let's start with the Xavier Musketeers, who came in as

1803
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 2: I believe, just a nine and a half or ten

1804
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 2: and a half point favorite against Old Dominion. Xavier was

1805
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:59,719
Speaker 2: coming off back to back losses against Santa Clara and Iowa.

1806
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 2: They are looking ahead just a couple of days. They

1807
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 2: take on Georgia, which is a common opponent between both

1808
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 2: UC and Xavier in the non conference schedule. It was

1809
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 2: Richard Patino's two hundred and fiftieth career win as an

1810
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 2: NCAA coach last night, and they did so in big fashion.

1811
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 2: They jumped on old Dominion early. They led fifty one

1812
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 2: to twenty nine at half en route to a ninety

1813
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:27,799
Speaker 2: nine to sixty nine win at the Sintas Center. Four

1814
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 2: different Xavier Musketeers all had twenty points in the game.

1815
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 2: That is insane. Four different Xavier Musketeers all eclipsed the

1816
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 2: twenty point plateau. This is what Richard Patino had to

1817
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 2: say after last night's win.

1818
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 8: First and foremost, thank you to our amazing fans. That

1819
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 8: was not a very pretty drive over with the weather,

1820
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 8: so to get over nine thousand just shows especially how

1821
01:33:58,000 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 8: we played the you know, the last time we're in

1822
01:33:59,880 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 8: the building, So very very appreciative of how loyal loyal

1823
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 8: our fans are. And you know, also want to give

1824
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 8: a great shout out to Bob colehep. You know, I

1825
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 8: know it's the twenty fifth year anniversary of this building

1826
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 8: opening up. This is one of the reasons I took

1827
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 8: the job was to have an on campus facility, you know,

1828
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 8: just right in the middle, you know, the heart of campus.

1829
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 8: I know Bob really fought for that and I think

1830
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 8: it's impacted this community in an amazing way. So his

1831
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 8: vision not only changed the basketball program, but it changed

1832
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 8: Xavier and very very appreciative of that. It's an amazing

1833
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 8: home court. We played great basketball today. Certainly, twenty nine assists, amazing,

1834
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 8: four guys in twenty points. I don't know if I've

1835
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 8: ever seen that, So a lot of really good things.

1836
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 8: Rebounded the basketball very very well, and you know, very

1837
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 8: very proud of the guys.

1838
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 2: Twenty nine assists to just nine turnovers will win you

1839
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 2: a lot of basketball games. They out rebounded Old Dominion

1840
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:03,640
Speaker 2: by twenty five more steals. They blocked the ball, they

1841
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 2: rebounded the ball. It was just and that was It

1842
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,640
Speaker 2: looked like a different Xavier team. And again it's a

1843
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 2: one game sample size, but Richard Patino is a good

1844
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 2: college basketball coach. This team is going to continue to

1845
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 2: get better. I also thought it was interesting kind of

1846
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 2: mixing around the starting lineup. Richard Patino said last night,

1847
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 2: I'm trying to establish a culture in year one of

1848
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,760
Speaker 2: how we want to play. And now culture is okay,

1849
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 2: let's let's figure out the five that work. And kudos

1850
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 2: to Richard Patino who last night was able to do

1851
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:36,879
Speaker 2: that for the Xavier Musketeers. Again, it's a quicker turnaround.

1852
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 2: It's a Friday night game for the Xavier Musketeers as

1853
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 2: they take on Georgia that is part of the Shriners

1854
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 2: Children's Charleston's Charleston Classic. I believe the way that is

1855
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 2: set up, I'm gonna pull up the bracket right now,

1856
01:35:56,240 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 2: I believe they would play if they win or lose,

1857
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 2: They're gonna play one of the two of West Virginia

1858
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 2: or Clemson as well. So Xavier will play Friday against

1859
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 2: Georgia and then they will turn around on Sunday and

1860
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 2: play either West Virginia or Clemson. Which is odd because

1861
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 2: Clemson is also a non conference opponent of the Cincinnati

1862
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 2: Bearcats as well, So potentially Xavier and U SEE both

1863
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 2: will be playing in the non conference Georgia and Clemson

1864
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 2: Xavier wins. We cannot say the same Austin for the

1865
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 2: Kentucky Wildcats last night, I wouldn't even say beaten. I

1866
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 2: would say smashed, demolished in all phases of the game.

1867
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 2: They went into the game. They went into the game

1868
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:43,799
Speaker 2: against Michigan State as a favorite, and Michigan State dominated

1869
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 2: from start to finish forty four to twenty seven. Was

1870
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 2: the lead at half. That is the lead that it

1871
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:54,680
Speaker 2: stayed throughout the game, eighty three sixty six. Tom Izzo

1872
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 2: and the Michigan State Spartans have a win already on

1873
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 2: this early season. Not as highly ranked of an early

1874
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 2: team for Michigan State, but they will be. They beat

1875
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 2: Arkansas and last night they took care of Kentucky. Kentucky

1876
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:12,759
Speaker 2: I thought looked disjointed. I thought they looked lost at times.

1877
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 2: They do not play well together. Yet I know that

1878
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 2: that they're still getting guys back in the fold. I

1879
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 2: believe that they still have some injuries that they're dealing with,

1880
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 2: and not that that that gives you any type of

1881
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 2: freedom or any longer leash. I know Jayden Quinton's is

1882
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 2: not playing yet, and I know that's a big part

1883
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 2: of who they are and who they're going to be inside.

1884
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:41,639
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I know they had a lot of top

1885
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 2: fifteen wins last year. I know Mark Pope has done

1886
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 2: some good things Austin. There is a precedent set when

1887
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 2: you spend twenty two million dollars on a roster that

1888
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 2: you're going to win games, and so far this season,

1889
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 2: in their toughest games, they were not close for much

1890
01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:00,639
Speaker 2: of the game against Louisville, and they were not close

1891
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 2: last night against Michigan State. It's a Kentucky team that

1892
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 2: in the non conference still has to play North Carolina, Gonzaga,

1893
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 2: Saint John's before getting into SEC play and starting at Alabama.

1894
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 2: Those are all teams ranked in the top eighteen in

1895
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 2: the country. So Kentucky has a lot of work to do.

1896
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 2: They've got a lot to figure out. Do we have

1897
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,640
Speaker 2: the audio of Mark Pope with Jeff Goodman after the

1898
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 2: game last night? We do? All right, that's what this

1899
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 2: sounds like.

1900
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 40: What are you going through right now in terms of

1901
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 40: the frustration after this loss.

1902
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 41: Well, I don't want to take away Anthony from Michigan say,

1903
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 41: because Tom is one of the great coaches in college

1904
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 41: of basketball. And those guys played tough and together and

1905
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 41: hard and played well. So you know, mostly just credit

1906
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:52,799
Speaker 41: those guys and and we are facing a monumental challenge

1907
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 41: right now, and I'm excited to see if we can

1908
01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:58,480
Speaker 41: figure it out.

1909
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 40: You hinted that's something like this a week or so

1910
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 40: ago before the Louisville game or after the Louisville game.

1911
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 40: Did you sense that this has been kind of brewing

1912
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 40: throughout the preseason.

1913
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 41: No, I'm I'm I'm I'm disappointed with how disconnected we've been.

1914
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 11: I thought I had a better pulse.

1915
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 41: I thought I I thought I was doing a better

1916
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 41: job coaching than I'm doing right now. So it's been

1917
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 41: it's been eye opening for me a little bit. So,

1918
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 41: you know, I'm a little bit surprised.

1919
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,600
Speaker 40: And by coaching, you're not talking about actually you know,

1920
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 40: it's as much as you're talking about getting these guys

1921
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 40: to play for the Kentucky name.

1922
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:52,719
Speaker 11: Correct.

1923
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 2: No, I think it's everything.

1924
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 41: I think it's it's it's it's development culture, it's the

1925
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,799
Speaker 41: right care, it's the right focus, it's the right schemes,

1926
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:02,640
Speaker 41: it's the right next to the house. It's a im

1927
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 41: portant job. The nice thing is I can fix it,

1928
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 41: like we can fix it. But it's a really disappointing result.

1929
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Speaker 2: Austin, I don't know what even to make of that.

1930
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Speaker 2: That sounds like a defeated coach whose season just ended.

1931
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Speaker 2: Seem pretty broken.

1932
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Speaker 3: Obviously, his voice was gone from yelling, so that made

1933
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 3: it sound even worse. Yeah, it's been weary. Beginning, it

1934
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 3: felt like he had just watched his dog die.

1935
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Speaker 2: Like you remember after the Louisville game. I don't know

1936
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 2: if you caught this or not, but there was a

1937
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 2: point in which he said, quote, I'm not ready to

1938
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 2: tell the story yet, but at some point we'll talk

1939
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 2: in detail about our pregame experience at Louisville. It was

1940
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 2: out of character for us. That was odd idea. And

1941
01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 2: then you start to kind of dive in to who

1942
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 2: and what this team has been. And there were rumblings

1943
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 2: last night that during a timeout in the second half

1944
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 2: play were quote barking at each other. It just feels

1945
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:07,600
Speaker 2: like and Mark Pope added to it, his message isn't

1946
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:11,360
Speaker 2: resonating with the team. He does not have a pulse

1947
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 2: on the team right now. And again, it's it's the

1948
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 2: tough part about college athletics right now. When you spend

1949
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 2: that much money on a roster, you've got a lot

1950
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 2: of different personalities coming into together and you'd better be

1951
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 2: able to manage them altogether. And right now, that is

1952
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 2: a struggle with the Kentucky Wildcats, now another team. The

1953
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 2: Kentucky lost to the Louisville Cardinals. They get ready to

1954
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 2: come to Heritage Bank Arena on Friday. Their head coach

1955
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Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey spent some time last night a few minutes

1956
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Speaker 2: with Lance McAllister. We'll get a little bit of that

1957
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Speaker 2: audio when we get back. We'll see if we get

1958
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Speaker 2: time for any phone calls next On ESPN fifteen thirty

1959
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. Thank you to Penn Station.

1960
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Speaker 36: No one covers the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

1961
01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:57,920
Speaker 36: Sports Station.

1962
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Speaker 2: Welcome back since he three sixty Thanks to Penn Station.

1963
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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. On ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1964
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Speaker 2: We are scheduled to have Wes Miller join us tomorrow

1965
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 2: on the show. But the other half of Friday night's

1966
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 2: game at the Heritage Bank Arena between UC and Louisville

1967
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 2: Louisville coach by Pat Kelcey, Lance McAllister was able to

1968
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 2: catch up with Pat Kelsey last night. This is part

1969
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Speaker 2: of their conversation leading into Friday Night's game against UC.

1970
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Speaker 29: I was gonna ask you what most impressed you about

1971
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:45,640
Speaker 29: your team's four and oh start, But I'm going to

1972
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 29: take a guess and looking at the notes today, you

1973
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 29: guys have ninety assists on one hundred and thirty three baskets.

1974
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 29: That's sixty eight percent. You're you're dishing twenty two assists

1975
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 29: per game. You gotta love the sharing on this team.

1976
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 42: Yeah, we have a hopeless team lance that shares the

1977
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 42: ball and gives up good for great But we got

1978
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:07,919
Speaker 42: what we got our work cut out for us on Friday.

1979
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 42: Coach Miller's Bearcats are one of the best defensive teams

1980
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 42: in the country and in fact Ken Palm, which you

1981
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 42: know coaches really value that ranking system, it has them the.

1982
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:24,520
Speaker 13: Number two defense in the entire country. So you talk about.

1983
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:26,759
Speaker 42: Our ability to share the ball and score the ball,

1984
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 42: and that's been the hallmark of the first four games. Well,

1985
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 42: we have a huge challenge at Heritage Bank Arena on

1986
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 42: Friday at six o'clock.

1987
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Speaker 2: So hoping for a.

1988
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 42: Big crowd, big time college basketball atmosphere.

1989
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,719
Speaker 29: Well, you have a freshman guard who is certainly sharing

1990
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 29: it and scoring it. Tell everybody about Mike Heel Brown junior,

1991
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 29: who's averaging twenty four points a game and six assists

1992
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:49,639
Speaker 29: per game.

1993
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 42: Yeah, Mikel's a special talent, an extremely decorated player out.

1994
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Speaker 5: Of high school.

1995
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 42: Obviously, you know McDonald's All American, all the stars that

1996
01:43:58,360 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 42: you can imagine.

1997
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:03,959
Speaker 5: You know that the draft boards have his name all over.

1998
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:04,759
Speaker 13: It, all that stuff.

1999
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 5: I say all that to talk about.

2000
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 42: The most impressive thing about the young man is his humility.

2001
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:15,600
Speaker 5: It's the type of teammate he is. It's his coach ability.

2002
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 42: If you met him and you walked in a room

2003
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 42: and had a conversation with him, you would never ever

2004
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,560
Speaker 42: know that he had all these accolades and stars. And

2005
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 42: he's just a world class young man. And he's a

2006
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 42: terrific basketball player, special talent, great basketball mind and thinker, playmaker,

2007
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 42: can really really put the ball in the basket. He's

2008
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 42: got a complete game.

2009
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 29: Pat I was talking with Brooks Downing the other night

2010
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,679
Speaker 29: from BDG Global Sports, who's putting on this event, and

2011
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 29: we talked about how putting together a matchup like this

2012
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 29: you need coaches who are willing and interested in doing

2013
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:56,680
Speaker 29: it to begin with. What made this matchup appealing? What

2014
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 29: made this adventure makes sense for your team?

2015
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 42: Well, you know, we put together lance arguably the most

2016
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 42: difficult non conference schedule in the country if you look

2017
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 42: at and I'm not looking anywhere past Friday, but it's like,

2018
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:14,600
Speaker 42: we got the Lakers next, and then we got the Celtics,

2019
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 42: and I think we played the Bulls.

2020
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:17,599
Speaker 13: Then we go on the West Coast and we.

2021
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 42: Got the Lakers, So, you know, I have so much

2022
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 42: respect for Wes.

2023
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:25,919
Speaker 5: I know that they're very well coached.

2024
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:29,640
Speaker 42: It's going to be a terrific challenge and ultimately, at

2025
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:31,800
Speaker 42: the end of the day, when you get to the

2026
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 42: end of the season, you want to be able, you know,

2027
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 42: to have your resume in front of that committee and

2028
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 42: put yourself in the best position possible. You know, we

2029
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 42: had a magical year last year. We went eighteen and

2030
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 42: two in the ACC. We won twenty seven games, and

2031
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 42: then you know, somehow we got an eight seed, and

2032
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 42: we just wanted to make sure that we put ourselves

2033
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 42: in a position that if we if we do what

2034
01:45:58,120 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 42: we're supposed to do throughout the course of the year,

2035
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 42: when a high percentage of our games with the schedule

2036
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 42: we're playing, that that won't happen again.

2037
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:09,799
Speaker 29: Pat, As you know, when we were growing up, Heritage

2038
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,400
Speaker 29: Bank Center was known as Riverfront Coliseum. Is it safe

2039
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 29: to say you probably attended more than a few games

2040
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 29: in your day.

2041
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:16,719
Speaker 9: Man, it's crazy lands.

2042
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 16: It's like the.

2043
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 13: Nostalgia getting ready to go up.

2044
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 5: There because I grew up going there.

2045
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 42: One of my first memories is going to a Crosstown shootout.

2046
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 42: I was trying to figure out the year earlier today.

2047
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 42: It might have been seventy nine or eighty. I want

2048
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 42: to say Roger mcclindon was playing in the game. I

2049
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:44,680
Speaker 42: want to say Anthony Hicks, the great Anthony Hicks from Xavier.

2050
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 13: Was playing in the game.

2051
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 42: And I just remember being I think it was my

2052
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 42: first basketball experience, like at a big time arena, and

2053
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 42: I just thought it was so cool that they brought

2054
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:57,680
Speaker 42: the floor in. It was a portable floor, and I

2055
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 42: just the spectacle of the lights. And then I went

2056
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 42: home that night, I cut up a bunch of cardboard boxes,

2057
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 42: went down in the basement and created like my own

2058
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 42: Riverfront Coliseum floor. And to know that I'm going there

2059
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 42: to coach there where I grew up going to Disney

2060
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 42: on ice and concerts and all kinds of stuff.

2061
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:19,799
Speaker 13: It's kind of a full circle moment.

2062
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:21,760
Speaker 2: That is fantastic.

2063
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:23,720
Speaker 29: Pat Kelsey hanging out just a couple more minutes on

2064
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 29: Sports Talk. All Right, I gotta ask you a medical question.

2065
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,799
Speaker 29: Did you in fact suffer an injury to your finger

2066
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 29: after the Kentucky win?

2067
01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 2: How are you?

2068
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:33,719
Speaker 5: Are you on the injured list at this moment? Yeah,

2069
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:34,720
Speaker 5: I'm a knucklehead.

2070
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 42: I mean, no pun intended, so right about my middle finger,

2071
01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 42: right about the knuckle. I dislocated my finger in the

2072
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 42: celebration after the Kentucky game. Literally lance my finger went

2073
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 42: straight up to the knuckle and then it made an

2074
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:55,639
Speaker 42: abrupt right hand ninety degree turn. And I looked down

2075
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 42: and the adrenaline was just pumping through my body because

2076
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:01,479
Speaker 42: we had just beat Kentucky, so I didn't really feel

2077
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 42: it very much. And I went over to the trainer,

2078
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 42: and you know, one of my assistant coaches got gennausous.

2079
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 42: He started throwing up because it looks so nasty. Doctor

2080
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:12,800
Speaker 42: comes in and starts yanking on it. Straightened it out.

2081
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 5: But if it.

2082
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 42: Takes losing a digit to beat Kentucky, you can take

2083
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 42: all of.

2084
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 2: Them all, right, there is a I like that last line.

2085
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 2: It takes losing a digit to beat a team, I'll

2086
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 2: do it. Oh, he said Kentucky. I know.

2087
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of our fans aren't happy about that.

2088
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 3: Listen to this station, which is the home of the

2089
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:33,760
Speaker 3: Kentucky Wildcast here and that, but they want it. I'm

2090
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 3: sure they appreciated that.

2091
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 2: Here's what else I like Pat Kelsey talk about what

2092
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 2: his family will go through this Friday. Pat Kelsey had

2093
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 2: started his college high school career at Roger Bak and

2094
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:45,679
Speaker 2: grew up in Cincinnati. Transferred to Elder as a senior.

2095
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:48,440
Speaker 2: I know that Kelsey family is big in the Elder community.

2096
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:52,360
Speaker 2: Do you think any family members would choose to go

2097
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:56,759
Speaker 2: watch Elder over Pat's Louisville Cardinals on Friday? Yes?

2098
01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think a lot of I wouldn't surprise

2099
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 3: me at all. That's west Side for you, man. It

2100
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 3: is the west Side.

2101
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 2: It's west Side high school football that's doing amazing things.

2102
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,640
Speaker 2: He did amazing things at the College of Charleston, did

2103
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 2: amazing things at Winthrop, and now legit has Louisville as

2104
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:18,120
Speaker 2: a national championship contender in just his second year as

2105
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:21,639
Speaker 2: a head coach at Louisville. Before we get a break

2106
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 2: in and uh and switch gears to some Cincinnati cancer

2107
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:28,640
Speaker 2: advisors conversation, Let's take a phone called Mark is calling in.

2108
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 2: What's up?

2109
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 39: Mark?

2110
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:31,639
Speaker 2: Mark? What's up?

2111
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 9: There's the old thing about you know?

2112
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 13: Pointing?

2113
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 2: Mark doesn't seem to be panted, man, Thanks Mark? Dangerous

2114
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 2: for Mark? Should we try the other Mark? Yeah? Mark?

2115
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 3: Hello Mark, Mark and Dell High you're on the air,

2116
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 3: Mark can you hear us? Marky mark Man? All right,

2117
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 3: just not a day for Marks on the show x

2118
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 3: Marks the Spot.

2119
01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 2: Wow? How about that? How about that Hunt TRUCKA ain't not?

2120
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 2: Ain't that bad?

2121
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 3: What's the line for this game? This can tell this

2122
01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Louisville game.

2123
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:19,639
Speaker 2: So they don't They don't make college basketball lines yet.

2124
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:23,800
Speaker 2: They make them the day of the games. But if

2125
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:26,559
Speaker 2: you go to ESPN dot com, they have what's their uh,

2126
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 2: their BPI, and they can make BPI predictions and they're

2127
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 2: normally pretty close to what the line is going to be.

2128
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:40,759
Speaker 2: Any guess what BPI predicts, Uh, Louisville's nineteen and a half. Yikes.

2129
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 2: They have Louisville right now nine and a half. Okay,

2130
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:47,720
Speaker 2: so I think it'll be somewhere around that, maybe ten

2131
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:52,479
Speaker 2: and a half. Make no mistake about it. Louisville is

2132
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:55,560
Speaker 2: a very good basketball team.

2133
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 7: Now.

2134
01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if they have the hardest non conference schedule,

2135
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:00,680
Speaker 2: as Pat Kell he alluded to.

2136
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 37: There.

2137
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 2: They have wins over South Carolina State, Jackson State, o U.

2138
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 2: They'll play Eastern Michigan, New Jersey I and J I T.

2139
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 2: I don't know who that is. Arkansas. They do play

2140
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 2: tennis Tennessee. Before getting into acc of Arkansas that game

2141
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 2: last night, did you see that? Yeah?

2142
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 3: I think they played Winthrop and Arkansas had four players ejected.

2143
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 2: Was that right?

2144
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 3: Or was it four players total from the game got

2145
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 3: ejected and they barely escaped.

2146
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:36,719
Speaker 2: That was crazy. It was a bonkers, bonkers game. Arkansas

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Speaker 2: took a lead I think with like eleven seconds left

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Speaker 2: in the game. Yeah, so there were I believe multiple

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Speaker 2: players ejected based on like coming on the court and

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Speaker 2: stuff too from a fight.

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Speaker 3: So good for Arkansas, good win. I also wanted to

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Speaker 3: to point this out. I know we're gonna get into

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Speaker 3: a bit of a topic change coming up, but did

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Speaker 3: you see what Michael Jordan did in North Carolina?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: And Michael Jordan Moore? Yes, Okay, Wilmington, North Carolina. Michael

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Speaker 3: Jordan gave a ten million dollar donation to a North

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Speaker 3: Carolina Regional Medical Center in honor of his mother, the

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Speaker 3: Loris Jordan Man. With the donation, the medical center will

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Speaker 3: name its neuroscience ner its Neuroscience Institute after the Lauris Jordan.

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Speaker 3: How about that. I think that's pretty cool. Mj always

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Speaker 3: just ten million crazy, that's why I'm wearing the Jays today.

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Speaker 3: Crazy man. Shout out to Michael. That's pretty cool man.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's a billionaire. Ten million is nothing to him,

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Speaker 3: but still just that good things that changes that entire area,

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Speaker 3: that can that can help so many people.

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Speaker 2: It's a good leeway into what we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about next because the Cincinnati Cancer Foundation and Sininati Cancer

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Speaker 2: Advisors are doing unbelievable things here locally as well. I

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Speaker 2: don't think enough people know exactly everything that they're doing.

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Speaker 2: So Lana Yulrig is the executive director of Cincinnati Cancer

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Speaker 2: Advisors and they have something really really cool coming up

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Speaker 2: that she is going to share with us when we

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Speaker 2: come back. It is known as Rivalry on the Rocks Raffle,

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Speaker 2: and she's going to tell you more about that next

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome back since

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Speaker 2: e three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, our

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Speaker 2: number three. As we roll right along, let's spend some

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Speaker 2: time talking about something awesome that we have coming up

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Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati. And it's especially awesome for me as

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Speaker 2: a partner and a foundation and someone that's helping and

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Speaker 2: has helped my family and so many other families the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Cancer Foundation. We're able to talk here today to

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Speaker 2: Lana Jurig, the executive director of the Cincinnati Cancer Foundation,

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Speaker 2: about some really cool stuff coming up. Lena, how are

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Speaker 2: you doing.

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Speaker 43: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me to absolutely, absolutely, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot we can discuss. Let's dive right in though

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Speaker 2: to what's going on right now with Rivalry on the

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Speaker 2: Rocks and this campaign that you guys are running. Let's

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Speaker 2: just start with that. What is Rivalry on the Rocks?

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Speaker 2: And we hear so much.

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Speaker 43: About well, thanks so much for having us here to

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Speaker 43: talk about this today and the rival Rivalry on the

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Speaker 43: Rocks is our end of year campaign that we're doing

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Speaker 43: with this inciety Cancer Foundation to support the care that

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Speaker 43: we provide through this inside Cancer Advisors in Naples Cancer Advisors.

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Speaker 43: And it's a really cool package promotional opportunity for a

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Speaker 43: lucky winner and we're very excited to work with iHeart

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Speaker 43: on this. The package includes two tickets to the exciting

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Speaker 43: January fourth Bengals Browns.

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Speaker 2: Game, possibly Joe Burrow back playing quarterbacks.

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Speaker 43: We hope like that's you know, get your lucky chance

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01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 43: so that you can you can go see that and

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Speaker 43: that is in the iHeartRadio suite. And there's also as

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Speaker 43: part of the package and on air opportunity or an

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Speaker 43: in studio opportunity with Tony Pike to spend some time

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Speaker 43: to see what happens behind the scenes in the studio.

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Speaker 43: We have a five hundred dollars gift card for food

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Speaker 43: and what's really nice about this package is there's a

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Speaker 43: two night stay at the beautiful Ltel Park Hotel and

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Speaker 43: we're very thankful for their support and contribution. And also

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Speaker 43: a bottle of heaven Hill Bourbon eighteen years signed by

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Speaker 43: the master distiller. So a really nice package. And that's

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Speaker 43: the rivalry on the Vox theme that we went with.

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Speaker 2: Let's dive in a little bit. Obviously, the Cleveland and

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati game, regardless of teams records and where they stand,

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Speaker 2: a rivalry game is always different and always means more.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's going to be a great environment. So

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Speaker 2: that's fun in itself. Let's talk about the donations. One,

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Speaker 2: the cost or how the chances work from a donation

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Speaker 2: stamdpoin and then we'll dive into what the donations are

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Speaker 2: actually supporting with the foundation great.

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Speaker 43: So one hundred dollars donation gets you one chance into

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Speaker 43: the raffle. You can choose as many of those as

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Speaker 43: you like. If you do a thousand dollars donation, you

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Speaker 43: get fifteen chances, so you get a little bit more

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01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 43: opportunity to win with a bit larger donation. And so

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Speaker 43: all of this money stays local and goes to support

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Speaker 43: the care that we provide at the Cincinnati Cancer Advisors

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Speaker 43: and the Sincinnti Cancer Advisors. If people aren't familiar with

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Speaker 43: what we do, we are a free second opinion clinic

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Speaker 43: for patients who are facing a cancer diagnosis. And so

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01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 43: for those of you have had cancer, you realize what

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Speaker 43: a very chaotic time that can be when you get

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Speaker 43: a cancer diagnosis and you're oftentimes wandering, am I doing

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Speaker 43: the right thing?

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Speaker 2: Should I stay local?

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Speaker 43: Should I go someplace else? And what we do is

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01:56:56,960 --> 01:57:01,600
Speaker 43: hire expert physicians who provide a second opinion, a complete

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01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 43: consultative review of your case. We get all of your

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Speaker 43: medical records, You have a one to two hour visit

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01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:12,919
Speaker 43: with an oncologist face to face or by telehealth, whichever

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01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:17,000
Speaker 43: is the preference. So you get amazing face time with

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Speaker 43: a physician who just really sits down and goes through

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Speaker 43: your whole diagnosis with you, soup to nuts, and so

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Speaker 43: you really walk out of that visit understanding what's going on,

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01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 43: understanding if you're on the right treatment plan. Our physicians

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Speaker 43: communicate with your physicians so that it's all very synergistic,

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Speaker 43: and we really like to think of ourselves as honest brokers.

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01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 43: We're not trying to compete, we're not trying to treat

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Speaker 43: the patient. We're consultative only, and we just really are

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Speaker 43: altruistically wanting the best for patients.

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Speaker 2: It's a separate side because I think so many with

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Speaker 2: a cancer diagnosis or someone they know with a cancer diagnosis,

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Speaker 2: you feel lost, You feel lonely. At times, you probably

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01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:01,200
Speaker 2: just feel like you're going through the motions, and you

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01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 2: guys come in and offer what feels like a partnership

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Speaker 2: where your a voice is actually heard exactly and there's

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Speaker 2: other options. So many times that diagnosis itself can be

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Speaker 2: dark and consuming, and you guys are offering hope and

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Speaker 2: second opinions and chances to people that I think the

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Speaker 2: biggest thing for me is I just I don't think

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Speaker 2: people know enough about this being out there and something

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Speaker 2: that they can take advantage of to help them or

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Speaker 2: help a loved one.

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Speaker 43: That's right, it's very unique. There's really only two of

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Speaker 43: these that we know of. It exists in the United States,

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Speaker 43: and that's in Cincinnati and Southwest Florida. You can get

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Speaker 43: second opinion multiple places. That's not a new thing. But

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Speaker 43: what we do is very unique in the sense that

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Speaker 43: we're not trying to keep patients for care. It's really

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Speaker 43: all of our services are provided free of charge. We

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Speaker 43: don't take an insurance card. Everything is provided free of

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Speaker 43: charge to patients and we do that all through the

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Speaker 43: generous donations through fundraisers like we're doing right now to

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Speaker 43: be able to to continue to provide these services and

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Speaker 43: hire and have the most expert oncologists to give those opinions.

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Speaker 2: You guys also have an awesome partnership with Ride Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: as well. Talked a little bit about what you guys

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Speaker 2: have with Ryde Cincinnati and how that's giving back as well.

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Speaker 43: Yes, it's been a very exciting partnership just this year,

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Speaker 43: and we had an enormously successful Ride event in September,

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Speaker 43: and we actually just met this week to review all

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Speaker 43: of the grant applications we had over twenty seven grant

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Speaker 43: applications that came in and we had an expert review

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Speaker 43: panel that reviewed the grants, and we'll be making announcements

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Speaker 43: about the awards coming up in December and then doing

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Speaker 43: the Chech Awards in January, and we'll be distributing over

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Speaker 43: five hundred thousand dollars worth of funds to multiple organizations

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Speaker 43: across the community, so all of the health systems were

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Speaker 43: involved in this and then multiple community cancer program.

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Speaker 2: Is there a universal spot that people can learn more

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Speaker 2: about Cincinnati hit Cancer Foundation, learn more about how to

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Speaker 2: donate and win. A winner is going to be announced.

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Speaker 43: Yes, So the winner will be announced before December twentieth,

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Speaker 43: So this can be a nice Christmas gift for someone.

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Speaker 43: And you can go to Cincinnati Cancer Advisors dot org.

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Speaker 43: There's a banner at the top of the page. You

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Speaker 43: just click on that to go to the rivalry on

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Speaker 43: the Rocks campaign. You can also go to the Cincinnati

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Speaker 43: Cancer Foundation dot org website as well, so either one

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Speaker 43: of those websites will work.

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Speaker 2: Also, that's something that they can go to throughout the

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Speaker 2: year as well to donate and find a way to

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Speaker 2: give back as well. Absolutely not right at this moment.

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Speaker 43: Absolutely, So if this is not the time for you,

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Speaker 43: just you remember remember that website and remember what we do.

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Speaker 43: And we really appreciate the community support and the altruism

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Speaker 43: that the Cincinnati community is provided. They've just really wrapped

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Speaker 43: their arms around this philanthropically supported this cause that has

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Speaker 43: helped so many And I like to say Tony that

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Speaker 43: when we have patients come in to see us, they're

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Speaker 43: oftentimes very anxious. And if anybody has had to go

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Speaker 43: to a doctor's appointment, you know what it's like to

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Speaker 43: have that portal where you have all your information. And

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Speaker 43: many times cancer patients have multiple portals and they're trying

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Speaker 43: to navigate across that, and we really go in and

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Speaker 43: put that whole picture together. I like to say it's

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Speaker 43: kind of like stringing a necklace and putting the pearls on,

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Speaker 43: and we really put it all together for a patient

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Speaker 43: so they walk out understanding what's going on with their care.

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Speaker 2: It just gives people hope, It gives them a map.

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Speaker 2: It tries to reduce some of the suffering that so

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Speaker 2: many times can be associated with cancer. It's a dual

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Speaker 2: purpose donation. It's a tax deduction and you get a

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Speaker 2: chance to win an awesome prize. All the donations are

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Speaker 2: obviously staying local with supporting amazing things that you guys

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Speaker 2: are doing. And another chance, it's two sweet tickets to

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Speaker 2: the Bengals Brown's game in early January. It's a two

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Speaker 2: nights day at the Little Park Hotel, Ultrawere, heaven Hill, Bourbon,

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Speaker 2: five hundred dollar visa gift card. And probably the icing

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Speaker 2: on the cake for this package is a chance to

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Speaker 2: come in studio for Sincy three sixty and sit in

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Speaker 2: on the show and be able to see how this works.

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Speaker 43: Yes, and I think that is the that's the prize

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Speaker 43: of the pack asolutely. I love I love just having

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Speaker 43: the opportunity to come in here and see it myself.

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Speaker 43: So I think that anyone who wins this package is

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Speaker 43: going to really enjoy that.

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Speaker 2: One more time. For those listening, how they can go

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Speaker 2: and donate and get themselves involved in the package.

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Speaker 43: Yes, so they can go to the Cincinnati Cancer Advisors

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Speaker 43: dot org website or the Cincinnti Cancer Foundation dot org website.

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Speaker 43: It's at the top of the page in a banner.

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Speaker 43: Just click that link and you'll also see us on

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Speaker 43: social media. I think you're going to have some stuff

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Speaker 43: posted that people can link off of and thanks so

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Speaker 43: much for supporting us, and we hope that we have

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Speaker 43: an excited winner here pretty soon.

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Speaker 5: We are.

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Speaker 2: We're excited. Thank you so much for the partnership and

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Speaker 2: literally everything you guys are doing to help and affect

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Speaker 2: so many. That is Lanta Yurig, the executive director of

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Cancer Foundation. This is Sincy three sixty. You're

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Speaker 2: listening on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports station from the Club.

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Speaker 39: Sincy three sixty Quick Hits on ESBN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 11: Was looking for Mo.

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Speaker 2: Mo's in the building. Hey, Mo's in the building. Hi,

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Speaker 2: it's quick Hits it is. You're in the building for

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Speaker 2: the last time this week. Taking Tomorrow off, Tomorrow off,

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Speaker 2: Friday off, getting ready for the big sports weekend. Lot

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Speaker 2: going on in sports? What a big sports weekend? What's

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Speaker 2: happening Friday night? Friday night?

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Speaker 14: You got the basketball? You got UC versus the Louisville Cardinals. Yes,

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Speaker 14: all of a sudden, you see versus Elder Elder is

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Speaker 14: playing saying X at the stadium downtown.

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Speaker 2: Now everybody's really excited about jlse Elder guy. Yes, well, Kelsey,

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Speaker 2: will will there be Will there be family members of

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Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey that decide to go to the Elder game

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Speaker 2: over the Louisville game.

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Speaker 14: I hope Pat Kelsey goes to the Elder game. He

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Speaker 14: takes mickel Brown and Ryan Conwell with him. Any all, gosh,

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Speaker 14: I forgot about Conwell.

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Speaker 2: Any chance that maybe Louisville just not that good After

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Speaker 2: watching Kentucky last night.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, maybe that's it. They sliced the dice. Mark Pope.

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Speaker 14: That postgame a couch.

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Speaker 2: That postgame with Jeff Goodman last night was one of

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Speaker 2: the craziest things I've ever seen. Was it crazy?

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Speaker 14: And this is an audio medium? It was it crazy

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02:04:20,440 --> 02:04:24,320
Speaker 14: because of how Mark Pope looked like somebody kidnapped his

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Speaker 14: family just passed. Meanwhile, Jeff Goodman, oh my gosh, is

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Speaker 14: doing these facial gesticulations and I put on social media.

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Speaker 14: I was gonna do this, but it was too late

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Speaker 14: last night. I was gonna put it into like a

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Speaker 14: video editor prop out Mark Pope meat the audio because

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Speaker 14: he he looks like he's watching a car wreck. Yeah,

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Speaker 14: combined with a pornographic movie. How I envisioned most of

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Speaker 14: our listeners listening to me and Tony Mark Pope. I'm

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Speaker 14: like buddy, it's November. Yeah, I've seen coaches look like that,

2393
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Speaker 14: and it's like early February.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just like the season. Send it in the

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Speaker 2: tournament and.

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Speaker 14: Lost to a really good, well put together Michigan State

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Speaker 14: team benefiting from continuity, Like dude, Mark, fuck up, buddy,

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Speaker 14: what the show? First of all, I need to need

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Speaker 14: to address something I am.

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Speaker 2: I put this on.

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Speaker 14: I'm a big LinkedIn guy. Now are I like to

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Speaker 14: update people with what's going on? Professional? And I made

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Speaker 14: an announcement that I have been named for our show

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Speaker 14: vice president of Strategic Content. Nice, And I feel like

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Speaker 14: some people have been misled because it's vice president of

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Speaker 14: strategic content and on air initiatives and I left that

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Speaker 14: part out and I'm so I just wanted to get

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Speaker 14: that out of the way.

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Speaker 2: What's an example of an on air initiative? Well, what

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do on the show today.

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Speaker 14: We're going to put forth an initiative we're going to

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Speaker 14: have on Let's see, I got the piece of paper

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Speaker 14: right here.

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Speaker 2: This is what you do in your pressure work. This

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Speaker 2: is it, Rick Brooring.

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Speaker 14: Okay, I went to the Xavier game last night, like

2417
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Speaker 14: that guy, They made sixteen threes.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I already know what's coming. Yep.

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Speaker 14: Get ready for that. In a couple of weeks, John

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Speaker 14: Cunningham is going to come on the show. Ammy Wagner

2421
02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:12,240
Speaker 14: is going to come on the show. Richard Skinner's gonna

2422
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Speaker 14: come on the show. Wes Miller is going to be

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Speaker 14: on the show. Head coach of the Bearcats is is

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Speaker 14: going to join us. We are we are looking forward

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Speaker 14: to that. Also, and I'm scrambling here, I'm looking it up.

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Speaker 14: We are going to have an announcer from MLS season

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Speaker 14: past to talk about the f C Cincinnati game.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 14: I'm also told we may have Mike Tyson on the

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Speaker 14: show today, like Iron Mike Tyson. Yeah, Mike, you know

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Speaker 14: he's got a one man show. It's gonna be at

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Speaker 14: the hard Rock Casino. I am told that we might

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Speaker 14: have Mike Tyson on the show today.

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Speaker 2: What is his one man show? What's he doing?

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Speaker 14: He shows up, He stands on stage and he uh,

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Speaker 14: he talks about his life and career, talks about fighting

2437
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Speaker 14: Jake Paul. Apparently he's going to fight Floyd Mayweather next year.

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Speaker 14: Oh gosh, Iron Mike Tyson is next year.

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Speaker 2: I feel like like he should make the a couple

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Speaker 2: of months, go ahead and do this now.

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Speaker 3: Is he going to be wearing pants? You may remember

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Speaker 3: he fantausly wasn't.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, So I'm told that Mike Tyson may be calling

2444
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Speaker 14: in at some point this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Tell them about you and I's viewing experience of his

2446
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:20,480
Speaker 2: last fight. We were in Des Moines.

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Speaker 14: We were I have been nervous to do one interview

2448
02:07:23,920 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 14: in my career. It was with John Tortorella. Yeah, that

2449
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Speaker 14: you used to be the coach of the Blue Jackets,

2450
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Speaker 14: because he was a guy like if you asked him

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Speaker 14: the wrong question, he kind.

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Speaker 2: Of like yell at you. And we had him on

2453
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Speaker 2: in the middle.

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Speaker 14: Blue Jackets won like seventeen straight games, and we got

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Speaker 14: him on and I'm like, all right, look, if I

2456
02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:40,480
Speaker 14: asked the wrong question, this man may yell at me.

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Speaker 2: And it turned out he was awesome.

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Speaker 14: I'm a little nervous about this one because I don't

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Speaker 14: quite know how good it's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Fair. See, by the way, I didn't give you credit

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Speaker 2: earlier this week, I don't deserve it. I thought that

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Speaker 2: you crafted one of your best tweets over the weekend, which,

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Speaker 2: when referring to that robot falling as you walking back

2464
02:07:56,760 --> 02:07:58,920
Speaker 2: to your hotel room multiple times at the Sugar Bowl

2465
02:07:59,720 --> 02:08:02,680
Speaker 2: just the but my goodness, that's a fantastic tweet. So

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Speaker 2: I wanted to give you your credit now. And some

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Speaker 2: would say, who were there? Pretty accurate? Yeah, yeah, probably

2468
02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:08,880
Speaker 2: con have hand some players that did the same.

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Speaker 14: I was gonna make a joke about like Joe Flacco

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Speaker 14: or somebody, but I said I made the Joe good

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Speaker 14: put myself.

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Speaker 2: Zach Taylor today did not solidify Joe Flacco is starting

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Speaker 2: on Sunday, so he also did not completely rule out

2474
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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is doing anything but needing to take eleven

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Speaker 2: on eleven reps. So maybe a stupid question, why can't

2476
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:36,200
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow just play Sunday? That's what I'm thinking. Do

2477
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Speaker 2: you think that door's open?

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Speaker 14: Why wouldn't it be Joe Flacco is not practicing, Joe

2479
02:08:41,640 --> 02:08:45,040
Speaker 14: Burrow is, Why don't you play the guy who's practicing?

2480
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Speaker 2: Who's better? I think James.

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Speaker 3: I think it was James who said, is there a

2482
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Speaker 3: scenario where Joe Burrow? And Zach Taylor said, Joe Burrow

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Speaker 3: hasn't practiced eleven on eleven yet.

2484
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Speaker 14: But today he is. But today he is and Joe

2485
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Speaker 14: Flacco is not practicing because he has a hurt shoulder.

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Speaker 3: And when he was asked basically if Flacco would start,

2487
02:09:03,400 --> 02:09:06,480
Speaker 3: he said, we'll see.

2488
02:09:05,320 --> 02:09:12,800
Speaker 2: Oh, is it possible. The intrigue continues. This members can't play.

2489
02:09:12,800 --> 02:09:14,400
Speaker 2: There's even more reason to put Burrow.

2490
02:09:14,600 --> 02:09:17,720
Speaker 14: Just just just when I thought I was out the.

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02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:19,560
Speaker 21: Right.

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02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:23,360
Speaker 3: You gotta win the last seven in a row. Win

2493
02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:24,800
Speaker 3: the last seven if you don't win the first one.

2494
02:09:24,920 --> 02:09:27,400
Speaker 14: And if Joe Burrow is gonna play meaningful games, well,

2495
02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:28,440
Speaker 14: this game is meaningful.

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02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:32,560
Speaker 2: That's true. They're not eliminated. Here's not eliminated yet. And

2497
02:09:32,600 --> 02:09:33,280
Speaker 2: then if you.

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02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:36,400
Speaker 14: Know what will happen, don't don't win on Sunday and

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Speaker 14: on Monday, you know, and we're gonna be going to

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Speaker 14: the playoffs simulator.

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02:09:40,800 --> 02:09:42,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna be looking at all you know, if he.

2502
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:43,440
Speaker 3: Is it bad?

2503
02:09:43,480 --> 02:09:46,040
Speaker 2: I did that this morning. Why I was on the simulator.

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Speaker 14: Here's if they win their last seven games, they will

2505
02:09:48,840 --> 02:09:50,920
Speaker 14: be a playoff team. Okay, I got that hard figured

2506
02:09:51,280 --> 02:09:53,840
Speaker 14: to get a mock draft today, I'm not doing Matt

2507
02:09:53,840 --> 02:09:56,760
Speaker 14: Miller had them passing on Caleb Downs to take an

2508
02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:58,920
Speaker 14: edge rusher from Auburn who has two sacks. This year,

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02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:04,440
Speaker 14: the Internet and I will both lose my mind lose.

2510
02:10:05,160 --> 02:10:06,600
Speaker 14: How do you know a mock draft when you don't

2511
02:10:06,640 --> 02:10:08,360
Speaker 14: know what order the the teams are gonna be in.

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Speaker 3: Bengals are picking ninth according to Matt Melly also had

2513
02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:12,320
Speaker 3: like two trades in the first two picks in that

2514
02:10:12,360 --> 02:10:14,960
Speaker 3: mock draft, Cleveland took another quarterback. Did you get to

2515
02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:17,080
Speaker 3: hear anything about it? Do you hear Ben Roethlisberger's comment?

2516
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Speaker 2: You talk about like a world.

2517
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:21,600
Speaker 14: I don't want to be in the world where anything

2518
02:10:21,800 --> 02:10:24,560
Speaker 14: related to Ben Roethlisberger enters into it.

2519
02:10:24,600 --> 02:10:30,960
Speaker 2: What did Ben have to say? He essentially said that

2520
02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:33,880
Speaker 2: there was at least respect between the Steelers and the

2521
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Speaker 2: Ravens and their rivalry, and that there's not respect between

2522
02:10:36,560 --> 02:10:40,040
Speaker 2: the Bengals. Okay, find of makes the rivalry a little

2523
02:10:40,040 --> 02:10:42,160
Speaker 2: more heated for me. Yeah, fine, these teams don't like

2524
02:10:42,200 --> 02:10:43,000
Speaker 2: each other. Okay.

2525
02:10:43,480 --> 02:10:46,800
Speaker 14: I don't need Ben Roethlisberger's respect. I don't want his respect.

2526
02:10:47,040 --> 02:10:48,320
Speaker 14: Ben Roethlisberger is a chud.

2527
02:10:48,400 --> 02:10:50,960
Speaker 2: You draw the line of big Ben Steelers fans don't

2528
02:10:51,040 --> 02:10:51,640
Speaker 2: like him.

2529
02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:53,400
Speaker 14: You ever talked to a Steelers fan and it's like,

2530
02:10:53,400 --> 02:10:55,280
Speaker 14: how do you feel about Ben? It's kind of like

2531
02:10:55,360 --> 02:11:00,280
Speaker 14: some of my crazy uncles. Well, yeah, I do like

2532
02:11:00,400 --> 02:11:04,000
Speaker 14: Uncle Ron, but we don't really hang out. I only

2533
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:05,880
Speaker 14: go to his house. I'm sure what he does for

2534
02:11:05,880 --> 02:11:08,760
Speaker 14: a living. That's all Steelers fans. They admit they don't

2535
02:11:08,800 --> 02:11:11,040
Speaker 14: really like him because he's a big pud.

2536
02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:17,040
Speaker 2: Who cares what Ben Roethlisberger thinks. Were you shocked because

2537
02:11:17,080 --> 02:11:17,960
Speaker 2: the field.

2538
02:11:20,000 --> 02:11:23,000
Speaker 14: Ben roth Miami people don't claim Ben Roethlisberger.

2539
02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:25,720
Speaker 2: Were you surprised, Yes.

2540
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:31,160
Speaker 14: Wally's Herbiak, Yes, Cradle of Coaches, Yes, Ben Roethlisberger.

2541
02:11:31,320 --> 02:11:34,240
Speaker 2: No, he did play for us, But were you surprised?

2542
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:37,200
Speaker 2: Jordy Nelson heard Jamar Chase's side of things about if

2543
02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:38,920
Speaker 2: you wanted to spit on Jalen Ramsey, he'd do it

2544
02:11:38,920 --> 02:11:41,160
Speaker 2: to his face, and said, we're gonna uphold the suspension.

2545
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:44,240
Speaker 2: What what is? What takes less time?

2546
02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:46,320
Speaker 14: If you and I are out, You're like, no, you

2547
02:11:46,320 --> 02:11:49,920
Speaker 14: want to be here or Jordy Nelson here in the

2548
02:11:49,960 --> 02:11:52,760
Speaker 14: appeal going yeah, man, you're not gonna play Sunday.

2549
02:11:53,360 --> 02:11:55,200
Speaker 3: Jordany probably had to read it a couple of times

2550
02:11:55,240 --> 02:11:57,640
Speaker 3: just to make sure this.

2551
02:11:57,680 --> 02:11:59,840
Speaker 14: Health works where we just pull these guys out from

2552
02:11:59,840 --> 02:12:03,080
Speaker 14: like twelve years ago. They're like, Hey, the next one's

2553
02:12:03,120 --> 02:12:07,000
Speaker 14: gonna be heard by Brock Osweiler. He's he's gonna he's

2554
02:12:07,000 --> 02:12:09,560
Speaker 14: gonna hear the next appeal Rock Finley's on this board.

2555
02:12:09,760 --> 02:12:15,000
Speaker 14: That's right, yes, yes, so no, I'm not not surprised

2556
02:12:15,000 --> 02:12:15,280
Speaker 14: at all.

2557
02:12:15,360 --> 02:12:17,480
Speaker 2: When you're got to Xavier games, do you get people like, oh,

2558
02:12:17,480 --> 02:12:18,200
Speaker 2: what are you doing here?

2559
02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:20,320
Speaker 14: I had friends with your here. I had people that

2560
02:12:20,360 --> 02:12:22,560
Speaker 14: you know that said that to me yesterday. Really yeah,

2561
02:12:22,720 --> 02:12:26,000
Speaker 14: our size. But the thing is the I get the

2562
02:12:26,240 --> 02:12:27,760
Speaker 14: I get to what are you doing here? But you

2563
02:12:27,800 --> 02:12:30,600
Speaker 14: know how it is now, it's like next time you hear,

2564
02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:31,760
Speaker 14: you know it's gonna happen.

2565
02:12:31,840 --> 02:12:34,400
Speaker 2: Right Like they're already doing it and they just won

2566
02:12:34,480 --> 02:12:37,280
Speaker 2: by thirty Last night, I made sixteen three, which tells

2567
02:12:37,320 --> 02:12:39,240
Speaker 2: me they can do it, yeah, which means they'll do

2568
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:40,840
Speaker 2: it again in a couple of weeks. Man, You know,

2569
02:12:41,120 --> 02:12:44,120
Speaker 2: you just we're already chalking it up the streets. You guys,

2570
02:12:44,520 --> 02:12:47,800
Speaker 2: they're already doing it. It's so bad. I did get

2571
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Speaker 2: a few what are you doing here?

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Speaker 40: Is?

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