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Speaker 1: For forty years.

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Speaker 3: Local guy from Newport Beach and he is the guy

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Speaker 2: Franklin, thanks for coming in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you were huge fans of you guys, totally. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: You know that all of my puppeteers put in behind

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Speaker 4: We keep them current. Our show right now is called

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Speaker 4: He gets rid of his reindeer, he can go faster.

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Speaker 4: All the kids get more presents this year. Well, lo

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Speaker 4: Well, a lot of people don't know this, but Rudolph.

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Speaker 4: How's a wife, Rita. Yeah, they have a new baby,

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Speaker 1: Patuities. Yeah, this is not it's not a joke to

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Speaker 4: Well, right now we have a catalog of twelve shows.

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Speaker 1: So Pumpets Shows dot com again is where you can

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Speaker 5: Yeah. No, absolutely. And actually, speaking of opportunity, we actually

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Speaker 5: So I have one for you?

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Speaker 1: What on the it is? There's a lunch bag that

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Speaker 1: So your puppet yet, I haven't started yet. Now, still

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Speaker 1: This is also a strange week because puppets actually made

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Speaker 1: It's funny that that Shannon used the word magic just

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Speaker 1: All kids who are we kidds well. On the testimonials

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it's called, Puppets after Dark.

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