1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Want your thoughts for calls on the fifteens, want your 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,439 Speaker 1: thoughts on DK Metcalf, how long is to be suspended? 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: I believe you think that everything every Steeler does is 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: right because they're winning right now. And that's where you're 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: not very smart sports fans. They're certainly loyal. When they lose, 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: they sock fire everybody. When they win, DK punching a 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: fan in the faces Aoka. And just for the record, 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: I've been saying fire Tomlin. They're nine and six now, 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: one three straight. Right Tomlin has clinched yet another non 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: losing season, and I still say fire Tomlin because they 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: ain't going to get to where they want to go 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: until things aren't stale. By the way, I don't have 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: an exact number. I read somewhere. So many of the 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: teams in the playoffs right now in both conferences are 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: being coached by coaches in their fourth year or less. 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: There you go. Let's go to Mike. Mike here to 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: Mark Madden. 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: Showm good Day. 19 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: I said, good day. 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 4: Hey, real quick talk about the Penguins. First of all, 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 4: Sydney Crosby is the most perfect athlete I think in 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 4: any sports history. You love, but you can't say enough 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 4: about that guy. But relating to the Penguins, he made 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 4: a point that you think that they are the you know, 25 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: the team that's most likely to contend fastest in Pittsburgh. 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 4: Given the stale of the Haffmin group, you still think 27 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: that's the case. 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, as long as Kyle Dubas remains in charge. And 29 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: when the Hoffman Group put out their statement upon officially 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: acquiring the team, they gave him a great vote of confidence. 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: I don't mean and in the sense that you get 32 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: a vote of confidence right before you get fired, but 33 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: they said, you know, in certain terms he's in charge. 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely good news for sure. I was, uh, 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 4: you put it on Twitter. I think they're the EHL 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: ain't the NHL. So I guess that was kind of 37 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 4: where my concern lied. But as for Dubis, there's definitely 38 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: no debate there. 39 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, uh, the other it's his plan. It's 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: already being executed. My only worry is, and it doesn't 41 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: sound like this has happened already, is that you know, 42 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: Sid's agent who wants Sid to win right now, convince 43 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: his ownership that that that they could win now if 44 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: they trade to win now. If they if they compromise 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: to rebuild even more than it is with Malclin and 46 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: Geno and Hayes and the chari and do her there. 47 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's certainly not the case, at least in my opinion. Hey, 48 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: the other thing, quickly is you do a really good job. 49 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: I think a kind of pointing out the stooge media 50 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 4: and Pittsburgh and everything you just said on the monologue, 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: especially about DK and Tomlin in the state of Steelers, 52 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 4: couldn't be more accurate. One thing that I didn't do. 53 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: But I'm also a Penguin fan, and I just rip 54 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: what they're doing to shreds. 55 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 3: I am the truth. 56 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 4: He then to that, Hey, after the Steelers, you talk 57 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 4: about the stooge media a lot. I like the guy, 58 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 4: But does it seem to you like Cabaldi's kind of 59 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 4: gone down that path a little bit? Like I just think, 60 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 4: you know, a Steeler could take a dump on the 61 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: guy's car and you'd probably. 62 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: Say, well, put it this way. 63 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: Uh, I'm not sure oftentimes when I hear Kabali what 64 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: he's saying, because I think his cell phone is compromised 65 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: by being so far under the tents. 66 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: Thank you for the call, Uh. 67 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: But you know everybody has there, everybody in the steel 68 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: everybody who covers the Steelers thinks they can ultimately work 69 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: for the Steelers, like like uh, Labriola did so well, 70 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: Labs is great for so many years, and they try 71 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: to curry favor, which Labs didn't do before he worked 72 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: for the Steelers, as I remember, Uh, okay, get your 73 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: calls in out for calls on the fifteens eight three, three, 74 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: four one two WXDX. 75 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: It's the Mark Man show one O five to nine. 76 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: Ho ho ho, it's that Tommy Yergan, isn't I can't. 77 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: Even quote the big o'bowski right, goodbye DX one O 78 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: five nine. Calls on the fifteen just taken off. Let's 79 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: go to dino Velvedno, how are you? 80 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 5: Hey? 81 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 6: Mark? 82 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 7: You let me take your money, but you won't let 83 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 7: me take your picture. 84 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: Those are two different kinds of trust. Hey, is there any. 85 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 7: Truth to the statement mister Rooney just released that DK 86 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 7: Metcalf struck that fan because DK just wanted to get 87 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 7: his children baptized? Can you confirm that. 88 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: Very good James Harrison reference. I can either confirm nor deny. 89 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: I don't think the Steelers had made a statement other 90 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: than Tomlin after the game, saying he didn't see it. 91 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, DK played it the wrong way. All he had 92 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 7: to say was the guy spit on him. And I 93 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 7: think coach Tomlin would have backed his move. He said, 94 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 7: you know, once you get spit on, I'll bets are off. 95 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 7: You can swing or do whatever you need to do. 96 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't like it. 97 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: I think it reflects the lack of accountability demanded by 98 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: the organization in general and the coach in particular. 99 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 7: Killed the machine, killed them all. 100 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: Let's go to Damian. Damian, you're all with double. 101 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: M All right, Mark, how you doing today? 102 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 6: Great? 103 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 8: So's watching the game? Y after reacts all DK hit 104 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 8: the fan and immediately I said to myself, this time 105 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 8: tomorrow will be hearing. He used a racial flur. Seems 106 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 8: like anytime variables, certain variables are met by the app 107 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 8: fleet and the victim, that's the go to. 108 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: Well, the only person who said that, the only person 109 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: who said that is Ocho Sinko. 110 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 8: Well, but that's the excuse. That was the same thing 111 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 8: with Miles Garrett when he tried to kill Meathan Rudolph. 112 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: I know, and like I said, the irony is that 113 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh fans believe DK Metcalf, but wouldn't believe Miles Garrett. 114 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: They will believe they're black guy. Excuse me, our black guy, 115 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: not their black guy. 116 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 8: Right, And last time I checked, saying something that hurts 117 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 8: your feelings isn't a crime, but battery is. When did 118 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 8: we decide certain wall if he. 119 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: Used the N word. If he used the N word, 120 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: it's hate speech. But other than that, it just comes 121 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: under fan heckling. He paid to get in the stadium, 122 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: and what is DK Metcalf. 123 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: Doing over there? Anyway? 124 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: DK needs to be an adult, a teammate, and a professional, 125 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: but I think he's capable of none of those. All 126 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: he can do is OPI let's go to Joe and Beaver. 127 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 9: Hey, Mark, you know, once again, just another example of 128 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 9: the undisciplined culture that he's exists for this organization. And 129 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 9: I'm want your opinion. How about if the NFL starts 130 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 9: holding the head coach slash organization responsible for the actions 131 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 9: and culture of their players. 132 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: Well, how would you suggest they do that? Exactly? 133 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 9: Well, in other words, confront Tomlin over this, since he's 134 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 9: really responsible for setting the town. 135 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: They're just not They're just not gonna do that. Let 136 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: alone publicly, Dude. The NFL doesn't care as much as 137 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: I think Metcalf should be suspended for the rest of 138 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: the season. 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Look for high close to fifty. 189 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 8: Listen if rubbing your hands together sounds. 190 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: Like that Park Welcome show, well, if I. 191 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: Won over Buddy Bedating Dusty Road, Tomican Dream, so be 192 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 3: a baby. 193 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: The exit one oh five nine Peng. 194 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: Was finally won a game yesterday, broke an eight game 195 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: losing streak. But the big news was Sid passing Mario 196 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: in career points, joining me not at TAK hockey. 197 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 3: Ain't nobody better. He's done everything you can in the 198 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: great game. 199 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: It's Pierre McGuire, Uh, Pierre Sid past Marion career points. 200 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: What's your perspective on that accomplishment? 201 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 6: It's unbelievable when you think about how hard it is 202 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 6: to score with the bigger goalies and the amazing uh 203 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 6: infrastructure of advanced scalloting right now, and how big and 204 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 6: athletic the defenseman are It's an amazing accomplishment. It also 205 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 6: speaks to the greatness of Mario Lemu when he was 206 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 6: playing in the league where it was basically tackle football 207 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 6: on ice and there was no stretch pass. I know 208 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 6: people are pointing out the fact it took see a 209 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 6: lot more games to score that number compared to Mario. 210 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 6: Mario Demure is a freak of nature. There's been very few, 211 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 6: if any players like him in the history of the 212 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 6: National Hockey League. Kidney combines and combines the greatness the 213 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 6: creativity of Mario view, the peripheral vision and the skill 214 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 6: especially in the backhand of Wayne Gretzky, and the power 215 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 6: for Neesse and determination of Peter Forsburg. That's a marriage 216 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 6: of three of the best players we've seen in the 217 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 6: league over the last thirty five years. It's an amazing 218 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 6: testament to the greatness of Sidney Crosby. 219 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: I agree with all that in de Sid's credit. Sid 220 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: always points out the disparity in games played to reach 221 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: the mark, because that's just being gracious, and that's just 222 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: giving Mario the credit he deserves. 223 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 3: Isit a top five player of all time? Per right now? 224 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: I think? 225 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 5: So? 226 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 6: What do you think I would say yes, and people 227 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 6: are going to argue, well, what about John Bellivo, what 228 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 6: about Gordy Hell, what about Wayne Gretzky, what about Bobby 229 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 6: or what about Mary Lemir. So I've said those five. 230 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 6: That takes them right out of it. I think these 231 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 6: lists you got to think about what's he accomplished. How 232 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 6: much times on travel was Dorty Hell and John Bellivo 233 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 6: doing back in the day, especially in the prime of 234 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 6: their careers, not nearly as much we had the big 235 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 6: expansion in nineteen sixty seven for Bellevo, and how most 236 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 6: of their careers have really been over by then, the 237 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 6: meat of their careers has been over. So there's a 238 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 6: lot of different things that when you create these lists 239 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 6: you got to think about. The game's never been faster, 240 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 6: the game's never been played by bigger people, the games 241 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 6: never had bigger goalies, the size of than that's. 242 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: Have never changed. 243 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 6: So you know, to say that is not considered one 244 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 6: of the top five players of all time, I think 245 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 6: it'd be tough to say. I think he should be 246 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 6: on that list. 247 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: I agree, And you're right in pointing out that they're 248 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: so different. Sid and Mario. Mario was an alien. You 249 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: couldn't read him, you couldn't stop him. You can read Sid, 250 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: but you just can't stop him. 251 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 5: That is so to see. 252 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 6: I never would say that, just because I know both 253 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 6: people and I know both players. I just I wouldn't 254 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 6: think of saying that. I see different things. 255 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 5: But one thing that's really important Mark about Mario, that 256 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 5: I don't think it's talked about enough. Could you imagine 257 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 5: the amount of points Mario would have had had he 258 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 5: not had cancer, He didn't have a bad back, and 259 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 5: there would have been no red line when he played, 260 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 5: so you can make the stretch pass. We're talking about 261 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 5: a player, seriously, that would have been between one hundred 262 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 5: and sixty and probably two hundred points for probably five 263 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 5: to seven years in the prime of his career. Mark, 264 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 5: I think you would agree with that. So this is 265 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 5: not a knock at Crosby, and I'm endorsing Crosby. I 266 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 5: got ripped apart for when Crosby was sixteen years old 267 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 5: saying he was going to be this good. People are 268 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 5: calling it heresy and disgraceful and all this stuff. And 269 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: I very seldom have ever seen a player like Sydney. 270 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 5: You know, I'm just telling you, Mario to me is 271 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 5: amazing and if I could take you inside baseball for 272 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 5: one second. Right after Sid broke the record, I sent 273 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 5: a note to Mario and you know what his response was, Mark, 274 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 5: And he's pretty easy and you will appreciate it. 275 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 6: Guy, I know how well you know Mario. 276 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 5: He said, what a night for Sidney, what a night 277 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 5: for the fans in Pittsburgh, and what a night for 278 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 5: Sid's family. It was an awesome message. 279 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 3: No question, And that's Mario. 280 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: They every time they speak of the other, they just 281 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: trade credit and rightly back and forth. I think if 282 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: Mario had had illness and injury, he would have scored 283 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: a thousand goals at that point, blank, no doubt to 284 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: my mind, how long will Sid play, Pierre? How many 285 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: points will he wind up with? Because I can't get 286 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: a grip on that. I think he could play into 287 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: his forties because of his conditioning, I'm not sure. I mean, 288 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: I think he wants to, but I'm not sure. 289 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 5: I think and I said this before this season started, 290 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 5: I thought he had three really high end years left. 291 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 5: I think we're seeing that this year. And if he 292 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 5: gets through, you know, without being compromise helf wise, I 293 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 5: could see him having two more awesome years after this. 294 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 5: I don't know if he wants to do it or not. 295 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 5: I think he's addicted to the game. I think he's 296 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 5: an unbelievable student of the game. I think he represents 297 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 5: or he understands the legacy that he represents in the 298 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 5: game right now, and so I would hope that he'd 299 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 5: want to stay on as long as his body can 300 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 5: hold up. You know, I'll never forget. And you were there, Mark, 301 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 5: you were right there with me when they're late part 302 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 5: of the season. I remember going to Brian Trotcy and 303 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 5: I said to Brian, how much long do you want 304 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 5: to do this? He says, Pierre, They're going to have 305 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 5: to cut my skates off as long as I can. 306 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: I remember that. 307 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 5: I kind of Mark. I kind of get the feeling 308 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: that kids like that, Mark, I really do. I kind 309 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 5: of get the feeling he just liked that. 310 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: I hope so, because we'd all love to see it. 311 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: We're talking to Pierre Maguire here on one oh five 312 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: nine the X Pierre. If a team ever needed to win, 313 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: it was Pittsburgh last night and they still blew two leads. 314 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: But they want to shootout. 315 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: What's got to be a lyft because that's their first 316 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: shootout win of the season against I think six losses. 317 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 5: Yes, it was a huge win for them, and that's 318 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 5: against a very good Montreal team, and we saw that 319 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 5: the night before obviously in Montreal with the four nothing win. 320 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 5: That Jacob Fowl or something else in goal for Montreal. 321 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 5: He's going to be special Mark great player out of 322 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 5: Boston College, kid that played in Youngstown in the United 323 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 5: States Hockey League before he moved up and matriculated to 324 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 5: Boston College. But you know, this is a very good 325 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 5: win for Pittsburgh and I think they got a chance. 326 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 5: They're going into Toronto obviously to play and if they 327 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 5: ever took pair of business tomorrow at four o'clock against 328 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 5: the Toronto Maple Leafs, that would send Toronto spiraling out 329 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 5: of control downward, and I think would really support the 330 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 5: Penguins going forward for the second half playoff run that 331 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 5: they're going to have to achieve if they're going to 332 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 5: make the playoffs. 333 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's stay with Toronto for just a second. What's 334 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: happened to them? They're in last place in the Atlantic. 335 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: What's wrong? And how do they fix it? Can they 336 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 3: fix it? 337 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 6: Well? 338 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 5: I don't know. If Vegas is going to trade them 339 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 5: back Mitchell Marner. So that's part of the problem because 340 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 5: it affected one line, and when you affect one line, 341 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 5: you usually affect two lines. So what happened was last 342 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 5: year they had this line with Matthew and I as 343 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 5: Austin Matthews and Mitchell Marner, and it was a dominant 344 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 5: line and Marner also ran the power plane was their 345 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 5: number one tennalty killer. Well he's gone now he's gone, 346 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 5: and the guy they brought in to replace him, Nick Wah, 347 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 5: is a really good player, but he's a death player. 348 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 5: He's a third or fourth line center on a very 349 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 5: good team. He's won a Stanley Cup out in Vegas 350 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 5: in that kind of a role. But he's not replacing 351 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 5: Mitchell Marner. So that's number one, Number two decimated on 352 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 5: the right side with defenseman no Christopher Tanev, who was 353 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 5: a huge part of their identity and matchup situations. No 354 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 5: Brandon Carlow, who they paid a pretty substantial price to 355 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 5: get from the Boston Bruins. So that's a problem for them. 356 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 5: They're really lean on the right side of their defense. 357 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 5: And they said, quote unquote, as a management team after 358 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 5: last year's play off the back of the Florida where 359 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 5: they got smashed in Game five and seven. We're going 360 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 5: to change the DNA on our team, Well, they tried, 361 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 5: but the guys they brought in to change the DNA 362 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 5: haven't worked out. And that's a huge issue because they 363 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 5: put their cards on the table and right now the 364 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 5: dealers saying, you fold because you've put the wrong cards 365 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 5: in the table. 366 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: The Penguins lost eight in a row before that win yesterday, 367 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: and Pierre, there's still only two points out of a 368 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: wild card spot in the East. Is that a good race, 369 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: a lot of bad teams? Maybe a whole bunch of both. 370 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 5: I think it's a bunch of both. And the biggest 371 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 5: thing about it is Commissioner Betman wanted to keep all 372 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 5: these races alive as long as they could, and we're 373 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 5: starting to see the financial repercussions of the salary cap 374 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 5: era number one, number two, the fact that they didn't 375 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 5: go to a three point game situation, so you don't 376 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 5: get three points for a regulation win, you only get two. 377 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 5: Had they ever gone to the three point regulation and wins, 378 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 5: you'd have a lot of teams already out of the playoffs. 379 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 5: On So I think it's actually positive for the fans 380 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 5: and all the different cities. I'm for it, I'm not 381 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 5: against it. I think they're more good players in the 382 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 5: league than ever before. I see a lot of people say, well, 383 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 5: we can't afford to have two new NHL teams, there's 384 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 5: not enough good players. My question to those people is 385 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 5: how many American Hockey League games have you seen? How 386 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 5: many SAHL, Swedish Hockey League games have you seen? How 387 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 5: many Elite Series games have you seen in Finland? And 388 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 5: how many games have you seen in the Top check league? 389 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 5: Forget the KHL for now. There are more than enough 390 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 5: good players in all those leagues to really fill two 391 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 5: NHL rosters. I think we need expansion again and it 392 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 5: would be a real positive thing for the league. 393 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: But I do like the three points for a regulation win, Pierre, 394 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: and that would be two points for an overtime win 395 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: or shootout two points for an overtime or shootout lost, 396 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: because I think it slows games down that are tied 397 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: at the end of regulation. I think when you get 398 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: the six seven minutes left in the game that's tied, 399 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: both teams start looking to guarantee themselves at least one 400 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: point that is. 401 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 5: A very good reason to have your opinion, and I 402 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 5: totally understand your vision on that. Here's my vision on it, 403 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 5: and I agree with you. You're not wrong on anything he said. 404 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 5: So here's mine for one second. If I'm the owner 405 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 5: of a team that is in a non traditional hockey 406 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 5: market and my team's eliminated by January, I know the 407 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 5: answer is, well, then you got to make your team better. 408 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 5: I get it, but I don't want to be having 409 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 5: cash calls every March for twenty to thirty to forty 410 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 5: million dollars with my partners because I'm losing. So yeah, 411 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 5: does it artificially enhance the team's ability to stay in 412 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 5: the hunt? 413 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 3: It does. 414 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 5: If you do the system with two and one, no 415 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 5: matter what. If you go to three, you're going to 416 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 5: see a lot of teams buried probably by the middle 417 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 5: of January. And I'm not sure that works for a 418 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 5: lot of the owners in non traditional hockey markets. 419 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: Up Pierre Harrison Brudick, the Penguins nineteen year old defenseman. 420 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: He's with Canada for the World Juniors. Did the Penguins 421 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: screw up with him? I think by being so indecisive 422 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: about junior or the NHL, and then the conditioning assignment 423 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: to Wilkes. He's only played five games in seven weeks. 424 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: That can't be good. 425 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 5: Well, it's not good. But here's what's gonna be good. 426 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 5: He's gonna be under the spotlight right now. They got 427 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 5: him playing with Shane Aitchison, who's the first round pick 428 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 5: of the New York Islanders, who plays for the Barry 429 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 5: coltson the Interio Hockey League. Their partners right now with 430 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 5: Team Cannon. They're in the second tandem and those guys 431 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 5: will be playing a time. The World Junior is the 432 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 5: best developmental tool for an eighteen or nineteen year old player. 433 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 5: And the reason why is because you're going best on 434 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 5: best in your peer group. You're not gonna be overwhelmed physically. 435 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 5: You might get overwhelmed speed wise or skill wise, but 436 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 5: it will teach you some unbelievable lessons. So I think 437 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 5: it's actually good. I don't think they filed up on this. 438 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 5: I'm really proud of them for letting Grunwick go. I 439 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 5: talked to Paul Steiger all about this a lot. I 440 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 5: think it was a really enlightened and smart decision by 441 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 5: upper management. And I think you'll see when the player 442 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 5: comes back, whether it's at the end of this year 443 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 5: or at the beginning of next year, that World Junior 444 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 5: experience will help him a ton. 445 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: I have no doubt about that. 446 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 1: I just wish they had been more decisive about junior 447 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: or actually playing in the NHL at seasons beginning. And 448 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: I have the same complaint at a different level about 449 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: Ben Kindall, who's played very well, and I'm glad they 450 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: didn't send him to World Juniors because I think he's 451 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: developing just fine in Pittsburgh. 452 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: I don't like that he's off the number one power play. 453 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: He has better power play instincts than just about anybody 454 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: on the team. I don't know why Anthony Mantas out 455 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: there good player, but the journeyman and I would rate 456 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: Kindle on the power play. 457 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 3: I had to reteller Russ too. 458 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 5: So that's the one thing where I'm totally in agreement. 459 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 5: And I was watching, I'm going, come on, guys, don't 460 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 5: do this to this kids. His creativity and the power 461 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 5: players vision, you can see sid really trust him. Sometimes 462 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 5: sid the first to him with the puck. Yes, you 463 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 5: don't see that very often with a player Sidney Crosby's caliber. 464 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 5: Deferring to an eighteen year old who was an eleventh 465 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 5: overall pick in the draft. That just doesn't happen. So 466 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 5: I agree with you one hundred percent. I'm also looking 467 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 5: at this. Let's just say they had sent Ben Kendall 468 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 5: down to the World Junior. Let's just say they had 469 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 5: Michael Mesa is going to be the first line center 470 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 5: for Canada and Michael Hayes is going to be the 471 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 5: second line center for Canada. 472 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 3: Right now, I. 473 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 5: Think Kendall would have beaten out Hayes and Hayes into 474 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 5: the three hole. I don't think he would have beaten 475 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 5: Mesa out, so he might have been on the second 476 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 5: power play for Canada and the World Junior. I don't 477 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 5: know why he would be on the second power play 478 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 5: for Pittsburgh. I would just tell you that, honestly, I 479 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 5: think he needs to be put back up on the 480 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 5: first power play unit. 481 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: Is Dan Muse relying too much on veterans? I wrote 482 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: in a column for The Trip Today. Pierre, then, in 483 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: some ways the nine four and two start detracted from 484 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: the mission statement before the year, which was to develop. 485 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 5: Oh boy, you're on it again. You leaned raight on 486 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 5: it in a good way, and the only reason I 487 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 5: can critique it I've been in Dan Mus's shoes. 488 00:22:59,320 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. 489 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 5: First twenty games I was a head coach in the league. 490 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 5: We had the third best record in the league, and 491 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, I thought we were a playoff team. 492 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 5: And then we went on a West Coast road trip 493 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 5: and we lost three players Brian Marchmant, Sean Burke, and 494 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 5: Darren Turcott. And that's just three players, and none of 495 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 5: those players were superstars. I would say that at that 496 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 5: time Marchmant was a great shutdown guy, and Sean Burke 497 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 5: was a star goal. They wouldn't say he was a 498 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 5: superstar goal, but he was a star. And Turcott was 499 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 5: a very reliable center iceman who was very good in 500 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 5: our system. Well, those three players cost us probably eight 501 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 5: or nine really big time important games because we couldn't 502 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 5: get him back. And that's when I knew we were 503 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 5: in trouble. And I had overestimated my team after the 504 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 5: first twenty games. But I learned a valuable lesson as 505 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 5: a young coach in the league because of it. 506 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: I will say among the kids I really like, I mean, 507 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: I think mcgroarty's been used really well I think Kendall 508 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: mostly has except for the power play. 509 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 3: Thing about Rutger is pier. Is he going to score? 510 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: I think he might do everything, but and I think 511 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: he might do just enough of that, but I'm not sure. 512 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 5: So, yes, there's a good example of what you're talking about. 513 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 5: He gets those high quality scoring opportunities won. There was 514 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 5: an amazing stay by Dobis with a stick and a 515 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 5: gold mouth you battle, and then there was another one 516 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 5: off the rust where he launched it and it's just 517 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 5: a little off. I don't know if he's ever going 518 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 5: to be a pure scorer, but he's a guy that's 519 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 5: going to be an amazing energy player. He can play 520 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 5: in your first two lines. But I think in a 521 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 5: perfect world Rutgers probably going to be a really really 522 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 5: high end third line player. And I'll use this as 523 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 5: an example for the fans. If you look at the 524 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 5: tape of Florida last year, their third line and I 525 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 5: hate the number lines was brad Marshandessa Lundell or sorry, 526 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 5: Anton Lundell and Lustaen. If you look at that, that 527 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 5: line was really really important for Florida. Rutger mcgroarty's going 528 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 5: to be a better player than Luson. 529 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: No I agree, Pierre, like I said, and I think 530 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: I I think he'll probably score. 531 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 3: I just need to see it. 532 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: But like you said, he's all around the net right now, 533 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: so hopefully that pays off. 534 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 3: Pier. Great inputters. Always, Merry Christmas to you and yours. 535 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: Enjoy the hockey, Enjoy World Juniors because you know we'll 536 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: be talking about that next week, and I'll talk. 537 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: To you soon. 538 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 5: I can't wait. Mark, Merry Christmas to you and all 539 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 5: the listeners. And did our great producer Tommy. And one 540 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 5: more thing, that was fun watching the Steelers just they 541 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 5: get that win. 542 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: What an exciting game. What a weird game, Pier, especially 543 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: at the end. 544 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, that's just a weird 545 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 5: old game beyond belief. But I'm happy to go one. 546 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 5: That was good. 547 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: That's Peer Maguire' Mark Madden calling out to ask Mark 548 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: anything dial now eight three three four one two wxdx 549 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: eight three three four one two w xdx, or use 550 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: the secret backdoor number four one two three three three wxdx. 551 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: We put you guys on first, or you can leave 552 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: a talk back via the microphone icon at the iHeartMedia app. 553 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: I'm Mark Madden. 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I'm at Dino's in La Trope 571 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: tomorrow with Michelo Walter to. 572 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 3: Watch the Penguin game. 573 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: Puck drops at four four pm Little Afternoon hockey fun tomorrow. 574 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: Now it's trying to ask Mark anything eight three three 575 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: four one two wxd x bought list by People's Hyphengas 576 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: dot Com. 577 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 3: Let's go to Kevin. Kevin, ask Mark anything. 578 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 5: What else? Super g. 579 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 14: Hey, I just want to ask you about uh parious 580 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 14: comments there on the talent in the league versus expansion. 581 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 14: And he argued with your point about you know, the 582 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 14: points per win or loss. 583 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: I am not pro expansion, by the way, I do 584 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: think the talent is spread thin. 585 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 14: Yeah, well, I think there's more talent in the league 586 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 14: serer's ever been. I think it is still thin. And 587 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 14: you start having injuries, it gets even thinner. But those things, 588 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 14: just those two things just seem to juxtapose each other 589 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 14: a little bit, you know, you know, owners not wanting 590 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 14: their teams to be out of it. 591 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 3: But if the talent was that great, well. 592 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: Like I've often said that the gms make the rules, 593 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: they they choose the method in the NHL, and gms 594 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: want the loser point because the tighter the standings, the 595 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: fewer gms get fired. 596 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 3: Let's go to dj DJ. 597 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: Ask Mark anything, good day, mister Matt I said, good day, Hey, Mark. 598 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 8: I was just wondering, because I'm sure you're a pretty 599 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 8: thoughtful gift giver. What's the best possible gift to get. 600 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 4: For a white elephant Christmas gift exchange? 601 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: A Mark Madden cameo. There you go, go on cameo. 602 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: Get me to send a message to whoever you're giving 603 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: the gift too great idea. 604 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 4: I'll be right on that. 605 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 8: Thanks Mark. 606 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: There you go. 607 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: And by the way, I just got orders for five 608 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: Christmas cameos today I am on cameo. I almost never 609 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: plug it on this show, but my god, I've done 610 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: a lot of them, and all the money goes to 611 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: send kids at North Hills High School to college via 612 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: the scholarship fund in my mother's name. 613 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: Let's go to a talkback. 614 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 7: Do you think the injury to Eazak will help or 615 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 7: hurt Liverpool for the rest of the season. 616 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: It's definitely gonna hurt Liverpool. I mean he's our highest 617 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: priced get ever he came late. Hadn't rather than in 618 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: the form scored a goal when he got hurt, which 619 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: is ironic in the two to one win over Spurs 620 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: on Saturday, No, I would rather eat Sech was healthy. 621 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: I think eventually new players sometimes it takes them a 622 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: while to hit their stride. 623 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: But Loo could Florian verts right now. 624 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: Who was I think arguably been Liverpool's best player for 625 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: a month in the midfield. 626 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: Let's go to a talkback. 627 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: And Mark, you said you were going to Canada for 628 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: a concert soon. 629 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 12: I was just curious, is that gonna be the guess 630 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 12: who's first show back? 631 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: It is the guest Who's first show back at the 632 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: end of January at Niagara Falls, Ontario, weather permitting. As 633 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: soon as I made that reservation, I thought to myself. 634 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: My god, that could just be ruined by weather. 635 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: And then the guests who of course booked a bunch 636 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: of shows in the spring and summer in Canada and. 637 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: I couldn't get on the cruise there on. I waited 638 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: too long to book it. 639 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: But it's yeah, it's backman and comings It's going to 640 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: be great and I'm quite looking forward, weather permitting. 641 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: Let's go to a talkback. 642 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 14: Under and how badly you think Chris Latang needs a 643 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 14: change of scenery. 644 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: Doesn't need a change of scenery, He just needs to 645 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: play a little smarter and better. Tanger's a valuable penguin. 646 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: What the greatest penguin defenseman? Ever, he's had a couple 647 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: of bad games, but when he settles in, he's still 648 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: a dynamic, very useful, winning hockey player. Tanger's had trouble 649 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: accepting that he needs to adjust in his game, and 650 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: sometimes he does it, but lately he is not. 651 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: He's tried too much, all right. 652 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: This segment brought to us by People's Natural Gas People's 653 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: Hyphengas dot Com. 654 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 3: Up next, I'll talk about an idiot one five nine X. 655 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: It's The Woody Show.