1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: This is a podcast from WOR. Back now to the 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: WR Saturday Morning Show with Larry MINTI. Well, the Mamdani 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: administration didn't have a great first week. Let's talk about 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: that with political analysts J C. Polonko jac It's been 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: a while. I'm glad I got to talk to you again. 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: I see on TV all the time and I wave, 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: but you never wave back. 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Happy New Year to you. 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the beginning of the Zorin Mamdani administration 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: hasn't gone well so far. It's just been controversy after controversy. 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: I think we're going to have a lot of controversy. 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: I don't think that the mayor recognizes that about fifty 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: percent of the city voted against him, and about fifty 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: percent voted not only against him, but actively votedly against 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: voted against him because of his positions. And when you 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: take a look at Andrew Cuomo, Andrew CMO got about 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: forty two on an obscure line in the second row, 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: somewhere far to the right, that tells you that your 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: job is to unite the city, that your strategy was 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: not exactly one that got you a mandate, and you 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: should be focusing about coming to the middle. But as 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: you heard on the inauguration, he wanted a socialist. He's 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: going to govern as a socialist, and the people that 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: he's appointing are of that ilk. So you know, when 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: I was in college, you had a friend who said 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: to me, jac you can't stare at the backside of 27 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: a cow and be surprised when manure comes out of it. 28 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: And I've never forgotten that because for the last year, 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: all we've heard about is the wonders of communism, Marxism, 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: and socialism, from the seizing the means of production to 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: the warmth of collectivism. That's all we've heard. So why 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: are we surprised when so many of the appointments that 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: he's making to high profile positions think that way. I'm 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: not surprised. I'm surprised that people are surprised, Larry. I'm 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: surprised that you're getting people that are shocked at what's happening. 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: I think this is only the beginning. He has to 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: give patronage and positions of power to the people that 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: got him to work. He is, and this is someone 39 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: who got to the top by talking about seasoned the 40 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: means of production, by talking about collectivism, by talking about 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: how much he hates the police, by talking about some 42 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: of the wildest, craziest things we've ever heard. And he 43 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: got there with the support of other people that think 44 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: that way. So why be surprised. This is just the beginning. 45 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the surprise is and how far and 46 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: how fast this is coming. I think that a lot 47 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: of people believe that he would have to moderate a 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: little bit, that he couldn't do all these things he 49 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: talked about, And even as he was running in his campaign, 50 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: he started to moderate his views just a little bit 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: to be more mainstream and be more acceptable as a candidate. 52 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: And now he's gone full on. You know, We've had 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: several people to call that used to live in the 54 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: Soviet Union and they say, we had this collectivism there 55 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: and it's awful, and this collective owning of property is 56 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: the worst thing that can happen. And so I think 57 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: that we were hopeful, let's put it that way, and 58 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: that led to our surprise. Maybe we were naives. 59 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: I think we were naive. You know, he got to 60 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: the top by that way. He moderated for a couple 61 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: of months, so that the business community isn't totally scared 62 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: because he knew full well that the election wasn't a 63 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: sure thing. And it's very hard for a Democrats to 64 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: lose the mayorality in New York City, very very hard. 65 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: You know, the last time it happened, Demands spend hundreds 66 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: of millions of dollars right and happened to be an 67 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: independent incumbent. So the idea was that if I moderated 68 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 2: nuts scared business officials, perhaps I can still win. And 69 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: he only got fifty percent of the vote. So my 70 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: point is this, My point is he got to the 71 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: very top by talking about collectivism. He got to the 72 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: very top by talking about taxing the ridge. Even though Larry, 73 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: this is what's so important, forty six percent of our 74 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: city budget is covered by the top one percent. It 75 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: seems as if his supporters don't quite understand mass. Where 76 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: are people moving out of People are moving out of 77 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: New York City. People are moving out of New York 78 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: excuse me. People are moving out of California and they're 79 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: going to red states where they get tax less. This 80 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: is what's so fascinating about it. So when you save 81 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: the rich, you're going to tax and you recognize that 82 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: the top one percent of the city is paying for 83 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: forty six percent of the budget, and then when you 84 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: take a look at the top three percent, it's almost 85 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: as seventy five percent of the budget. Why would you 86 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: continue to say that you're going to tax these businesses 87 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: and these people out of the city. Who's going to 88 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: be left with the bill? It's going to be regular folks. 89 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: It's basic math that I think that his followers don't 90 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: quite understand, from taxation to rent freezes to how that 91 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: increases shortages. I just don't understand what is so difficult 92 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: about understanding that you cannot offend and overtax the people 93 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: that are covering the bill because they are most likely 94 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: to leave. And if he were to get his way, Larry, 95 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, if you were to get his way of 96 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: increasing the taxes on corporations and make them equal to 97 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: New Jersey without considering that corporations in New York City 98 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: are paying an additional tons of money and in other fees, 99 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: those businesses are just going to pick up and go 100 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: to Florida, and then their jobs are going to go. 101 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: People are going to go, and New York is going 102 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: to be less powerful nationally as we continue to lose 103 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: yet another congressional district. I don't understand what these people do. 104 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: Not quite understand J C. 105 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: Polonco, political analyst and University of Mount Saint Vincent Assistant 106 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: professor and attorney. This has been a podcast from w 107 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: o R