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Speaker 4: How you doing, Jeff.

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Speaker 5: I think this priest is in a lot more trouble

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Speaker 4: Joseph to take his family to Egypt. Now this priest

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Speaker 1: I'm like a broken record, but honestly, best audience in

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Speaker 8: Welcome Jeff, Jeff person.

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Speaker 9: Foremost, I want to thank you for what you do, okay. Second,

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Speaker 9: happy Honkah, and good loving, strong vibes for anything you celebrate.

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Speaker 9: Who just said, yeah, come on in, use my house,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, seriously, the previous caller, grand slam, disc

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Speaker 2: Hey, you don't have to be a theologian to understand

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Speaker 1: you very much for that call. Dave in Rhode Island.

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Speaker 7: Not too bad? This won't be a grand slam like

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Speaker 1: Ah bingo, Oh Dave, look at home run my friend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: have a very nice weekend. Great call. William in Charlestown.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for holding William and welcome.

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Speaker 8: Merry Christmas only, Merry Christmas, Grannie. A couple of things.

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Speaker 8: The priest let's committed a model said. First of all,

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