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Yes, uh huh okay. 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 4: So I'm on the sideline shooting the game Sunday Bengals 20 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 4: and live pay Course Stadium. And when your first name 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 4: is the same name as the celebrity quarterback in that city, 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 4: you get pretty used to hearing your name and ignoring 23 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: it because you know they're not talking to you. 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 3: So I hear. 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: Someone from the stands yelling Joe repeatedly, and in my 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: brain I'm thinking, well, they're talking about Joe Burrow. And 27 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 4: then I think about it more. I'm like, Joe's not 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 4: on the sidelines. Are they talking to me? And the 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 4: guy finally says, hey, Daniman and I turn around and 30 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: this guy had made his way down of the front row. 31 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 4: He looks right at me and goes, Gee the night 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 4: on a Sunday at pay Course. 33 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: Stadium, That is hilarious. 34 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: Did you go to the wrestling when it was here 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: that I don't even know what it was or where 36 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: it was, but I know it was here. 37 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: Did you go down Friday night? It's SmackDown. I did 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 4: not get to go because Friday night is one of 39 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: the most important days of the week for the local 40 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: TV guys. Couldn't make it. 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: Let me start with Burrow. 42 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: Actually, is do you have any indication on when he 43 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: may return to the sidelines, if he will return, is 44 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: he going to be in the booth? Is there any 45 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: has he been around? Do we know anything about that? 46 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: This is a great question because we're standing in the 47 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 4: Bengals locker room yesterday, and here comes Joe walking in. 48 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 4: I said walking. He had a walking boot on, and 49 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 4: I turned to the other media members to ask them 50 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 4: if this was new, because I was in LA during 51 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 4: Bengals open media time last week and was not around 52 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 4: to see if Burrow had done that yet. Because the 53 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 4: last time I saw Joe he had a cast on 54 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 4: and was using a scooter post surgery to get around 55 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 4: the Bengals locker room. So to see him in a 56 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 4: walking boot walking was different for me, and I asked 57 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 4: around and most everybody I asked to the same question 58 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 4: that they said they had not seen it, and I 59 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: kind of gathered that no one saw him last week 60 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 4: at all, So that seemed to be a new development, 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 4: that Joe was up and walking around in a walking boot. 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 4: Where he is on Sundays, we don't know. He wasn't 63 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 4: on the sideline, no one had eyes on him inside 64 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: of a suite. I'm assuming he's somewhere at the stadium 65 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 4: when the Bengals play home games. I'm sure he's trying 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 4: to keep a low profile for multiple reasons. But to 67 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: see him walking around in a walking boot yesterday was different, 68 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 4: and that's the latest update I have on one Joe Burrow. 69 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: As for the person who is manning his position in 70 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: the meantime, Jake Browning didn't play well on Sunday, Zach 71 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: Taylor seemed to leave the door open to potentially making 72 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: a change. How do you see this playing out before 73 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: Green Bay on Sunday? 74 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: I think if we're going to handicap this, I think 75 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: the favorite is going to be Jake Browning, just because 76 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 4: the options in house I don't believe are good enough 77 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: to convince the locker room that someone else gives them 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: a better chance of winning. Sean Clifford's been here for 79 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: what a month and is on the practice squad, so 80 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 4: I don't think he's an option. So the options are 81 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: Jake Browning and Brett Rippon. And I believe that both 82 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: Zach Taylor and the Bengals players believe that Jake Browning. 83 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: And this is a hard sentence I'm sure for Bengals 84 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 4: fans to hear give them gives them the best chance 85 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: of winning, not just this week but going forward. Now 86 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 4: there's a separate discussion to have about should they look 87 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 4: outside of the organization to bring someone in. Quite honestly, 88 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: to this point, You're wondering if it's getting too late 89 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: because the amount of time it would safe to get 90 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: someone here, get them up to speed, get them ready, 91 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 4: of the Bengals still going to be afloat and have 92 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: a pulse for the second half of the season. Given 93 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: the fact that even though the AFC is wide open, 94 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 4: if you fall to two and five, which this team 95 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 4: is staring at with two hard opponents coming up the 96 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 4: next two weeks, I just wonder if it's going to 97 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: be too late for this team to bring in somebody. 98 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 4: And there's also the other argument you can make about 99 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 4: investing in what kind of feels like a lost season 100 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 4: already without Joe Burrows. So to answer your original question, 101 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 4: I would be stunned if anybody else besides Jake Browning 102 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: on Sunday, I truly believe of the options that are 103 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 4: in the building, he gives them the best chance of 104 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 4: being successful. As much as people think that Jamar Chase 105 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: and T Higgins or offensive weapons take your favorite, one 106 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 4: might be losing faith in Jake Browning, they continue to 107 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: publicly back him. That the mood in the vibe I 108 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: get from them is that they still believe they can 109 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: play competitive football with him from talking to them both 110 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 4: Sunday and seeing them yesterday as well. So I think 111 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 4: Jake Brown is going to be the guy until that changes. 112 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 4: I will be surprised if somebody else is out on 113 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: the field this coming Sunday or anytime in the future. 114 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: Do you think it's more detrimental to the culture of 115 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 2: the locker room to keep running Jake browning out there 116 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: if he continues to perform that way, or to just 117 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: kind of have this carousel of quarterbacks trying to find 118 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 2: something or does it not matter if you lose, you 119 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: lose and it doesn't matter. 120 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there becomes a breaking point with everybody 121 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 4: that if it becomes so non competitive, you've got to 122 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 4: do something, just to do something different. I mean, that's 123 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: the reality of sports. Sometimes sometimes it's a change just 124 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: to make a change. And it's felt like we were 125 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: at that edge on Sunday against the Lions, and Zach 126 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: Taylor even acknowledged that yesterday when speaking at his press 127 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 4: conference that he felt it. How could you not feel 128 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 4: it inside that stadium, the fans urging a change. Now, 129 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 4: I remember being a young kid going to Bangwick games 130 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: at Riverfront Coliseum or at Riverfront stadium, excuse me. And 131 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: I remember being part of the crowd that was starting 132 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 4: an Eric Kresser chance to get Eric Kresser into a game, 133 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 4: and it worked, and they put Eric Kresser in and 134 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 4: on his first pass he threw a pick, and you 135 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 4: got to be saying, what are we doing? So sometimes, yeah, 136 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: the decisions have to come from the coaches, not necessarily 137 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 4: the fans. And again I go back to the fact 138 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 4: that even though, and this is the discussion Austin, is 139 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: why is Jake Browning not performing like he did two 140 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: years ago? Because we have the baseline of this guy 141 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 4: being somewhat successful, playing good enough football for this team 142 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 4: to win games. Now, I would encourage people to go 143 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: back and look at the twenty twenty three seasons and 144 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 4: the games he played, and see the games he had 145 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 4: success in and the games he did not have success in. 146 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 4: He did not have success against the Steelers in two 147 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: games he did have success against non playoff teams playing 148 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 4: with backup quarterbacks, and the Bengals won those games. So 149 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: the other part of this problem is that Jake Browning 150 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 4: has been thrown into what is the most difficult part 151 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: of the Bengals schedule, where he's playing nothing but playoff teams, 152 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: and he's playing either elite defenses or elite offenses that 153 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: he has to try to keep up with. And this 154 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 4: is not an excuse for Jake Browning, because even if 155 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: you are playing elite defenses, it has to look a 156 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 4: lot better than what we've seen from his three starts 157 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 4: so far. But Jacksonville's four and one, and he was 158 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 4: functional against Jacksonville, and he made mistakes, but he also 159 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: made plays. 160 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: And at Jacksonville is going to. 161 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 4: Be a playoff team and it looks like they might 162 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 4: be somewhere inside, Jake Browning is a guy that can't 163 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: help this team be competitive against good teams. So the 164 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: question for Zach Taylor then becomes, how do you get 165 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 4: better at Jake Browning? How do you get the Jake 166 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 4: Browning of twenty twenty three in twenty twenty five. And 167 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 4: that is the urgency for this coaching staff to figure 168 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 4: out very quickly, otherwise what's already spiraling might go down 169 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: the drink. 170 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 2: Zach had kind of loosely mentioned Sunday about play calling 171 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: and how he puts a lot of that on himself 172 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: as well. I don't know if I would necessarily agree 173 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: with that. He was then asked again about it yesterday 174 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: and said he will continue to call plays. Where do 175 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: you think Zach is at right now with all of this? 176 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: And I guess trying to manage because there were plays 177 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: to be had and they didn't make them, and Jake 178 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: specifically didn't make them. So how does Zach deal with that? 179 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: Like? 180 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: How do you get from I'm calling the right play 181 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: but you're not executing it to trying to make a 182 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: player better? 183 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: Like how do you know what I'm saying? 184 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: Like I don't even not to ask the question because 185 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: it feels like it's such a weird situation. 186 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 4: Well, it feels like almost fansap and decide what side 187 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: they're on that Who's to blame? Is it the quarterback 188 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 4: who's not seeing it? Or is it the play caller 189 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 4: who's not getting the quarterback into the right place to 190 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 4: be successful? Or is it the head coach that's not 191 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 4: getting the quarterback ready throughout the week. Given that he's 192 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: an offensive minded head coach for him to play his 193 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: best football, I think we have to go back and 194 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 4: understand that Dak Taylor is not a young head coach. 195 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 4: This is his seventh season doing this in Cincinnati. He 196 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 4: at this point he knows how to manage his week. 197 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 4: He knows how to delegate this week his week. You 198 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: can argue, given the results that without Joe Burrow, that 199 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 4: he has to elevate his game, but I don't think 200 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 4: it's going to change. And so I think the idea 201 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 4: of Zach Taylor in play calling becomes a bit of 202 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 4: a moot discussion. Certainly, it's one that's debatable amongst fans, 203 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 4: and they should debate it because that's what we do 204 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 4: when we watch games and we observe games and we 205 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 4: talk about it is deciding who did well, who deserves blame, 206 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 4: and everybody can decide for themselves, whether it's Zach Taylor, 207 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: whether it's Jake Browning. But he does everything intentionally, he 208 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 4: being Zach Taylor with the idea of. 209 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: Oh uh oh, Joe, we have breaking news, and if 210 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: you have to get off, if you have to get 211 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: off the phone. 212 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: I understand. 213 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: Ian Rapaport of NFL Network, Joe is reporting that the 214 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: Bengals are trading for Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco, Okay, Joe 215 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: dun Joe Danoman. 216 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: Get ready for people to be yelling Joe again. 217 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: Uh, your immediate reaction Joe Danoman to the Bengals trading 218 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: for Joe Flacco. 219 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 4: My immediate reaction is Joe Flacco. We talked about the 220 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 4: ramp up time it takes for quarterbacks right to come 221 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: in here, learn a system, and then be competitive on 222 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 4: the field. Joe Flacco, to me, accelerates that timeline of 223 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 4: giving them a new option because he's been in the 224 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: league so long. It also to me tells me what 225 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: the Browns think of Joe Flacco that they would trade 226 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 4: him in division. But certainly you have to credit the 227 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 4: Bengals for right understanding the situation, reading the AFC, seeing 228 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 4: there's still an opportunity to be competitive going forward. So 229 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 4: the fact that they're going out and being proactive and 230 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 4: getting a guy and taking a shot, to me at 231 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: least at least tells the fan base they're trying. Yeah, 232 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: they're trying something here and not just beating their head 233 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: against the wall with Jake Browning playing Baske football. 234 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I was looking earlier this morning because I 235 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,479 Speaker 2: was trying to think, if they go and get somebody, 236 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: would it be somebody who has played Green Bay already 237 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: this season, just in the event that he's needed and 238 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: he has Joe Flacco earlier this year in a thirteen 239 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: to ten win for the Browns over the Packers, was 240 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: twenty one of thirty six for one hundred and forty 241 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: two yards, zero touchdowns, one interception. I guess is he 242 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,479 Speaker 2: the favorite to start? 243 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 4: Boy, that's the question. That's the question, right, Can they 244 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 4: get this guy ready in a matter of four or 245 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 4: five days to play in Green Bay. I'm not going 246 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 4: to say no. I think certainly the easy answer would be, okay, 247 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: the Bengals have this distretch right of two games and 248 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: however many days? What ten eleven days? And then you 249 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 4: get the mini bye week after the Thursday night game 250 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 4: to get Joe Blackob out there. If you're trading for 251 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco, you're trying to maintain a level of competitiveness 252 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 4: in a year where some of the contenders might be 253 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: a little bit down. Look, Baltimore's one in four and 254 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 4: plays the Rams this coming Sunday, so they're staring at 255 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 4: possible one and by start in the face the Kansas 256 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 4: City Chiefs, who I thought looked really good last night. 257 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 4: And Patrick Mahomes looks like himself, athletic, fast, young, he 258 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 4: looks like that again, they're two and four, possibly if 259 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 4: they lose against the Lions this coming Sunday. So there 260 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 4: are some contenders that we expect that are down. And 261 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 4: so there's a shot here in the AFC that if 262 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 4: you can get to nine wins, nine wins might be enough. 263 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 4: And once you get past this two game stretch, the 264 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 4: Bengals schedule opens up with some winnable games. There could 265 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: be seven or eight wins on the Bengals schedule. So yeah, 266 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 4: that's going to be the question starting tomorrow. Right, is 267 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco going to be ready in time for the 268 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: Bengals to go to Green Bay? I think so. The 269 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 4: fact that he's played enough football, I think the Bengals 270 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 4: could be able to cater an offensive game plan around him. 271 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 4: Look at your Jamar Chase and your T Higgins, and 272 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 4: you've seen what this guy does with weapons down the field. 273 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: It's got to be fun. It's different, and to me, 274 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: it just shows the fan base and the locker room 275 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: that you're willing and trying to do something to keep 276 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 4: this season afloat because there's still twelve weeks. We still 277 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 4: twelve weeks of football, and if nothing else, this shows 278 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 4: people that they're at least trying. 279 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think back to twenty twenty three, similar situation. 280 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: Cleveland has their quarterback go down in November and they 281 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: turned to Joe Flacco and he rips off four wins 282 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: in the last five six games, very similar to what 283 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: Jake Browning did in that same stretch of time for 284 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: the Bengals. So I guess if you can't recreate the 285 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: magic with Jake Browning from twenty twenty three, you try 286 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: it with Joe Flacco. So it is a sixth round 287 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: pick going to the Bengals, I guess, according to these 288 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: different reports. So all right, that pretty much sums it 289 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: up that the answer to all the questions we've been 290 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: asking was answered right there while we were on the air. Joe, 291 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: it was a pleasure to share the airwaves with you 292 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: during that announcement. 293 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 4: Can I say this, though. 294 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: You can say whatever you want. 295 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 4: Now. Now they're getting thing maybe the NFL's most immobile 296 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 4: quarterback behind an offensive line that I think might be 297 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 4: the root of all the problems problem that is happening 298 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: right now with the Bengals offense. Whether it be the 299 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: run game, whether it be the quarterback play, whether it's 300 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow's injury. It's an offensive line simply that has 301 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 4: not been good enough from day one at the start 302 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 4: of the year. And now now you're adding Joe Flacco, 303 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 4: who is probably the most immobile quarterback in the NFL 304 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 4: and putting him behind that offensive line. To me, that's 305 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 4: a little bit scary. Uh. But but you use the 306 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: word you use the word magic. That the magic he 307 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: had in Cleveland and leading them to the playoffs, and 308 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 4: the magical run of all the plays he made down 309 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 4: the field with the Maari Cooper. Uh, you're you're trying 310 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: to find something that adds energy, then this will add energy. 311 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: The Bengals are back in the conversation now. National League 312 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 4: people are going to be talking about them today. Whether 313 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco can be ready to play on Sunday or not. 314 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 4: Certainly there's going to be energy inside the Bangles locker 315 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 4: room with this team trying to give them something to 316 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: go to to recreate something here in the middle part 317 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 4: of the season. But yeah, when you think about it 318 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 4: a little bit, you start thinking about Joe Flacco and 319 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 4: his inability to move being behind an offensive line that 320 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 4: has an inability to protect its quarterback. Because to me, 321 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 4: it's the reason Joe's hurt, and to me, it's the 322 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 4: reason Jake Browning hasn't played well. I think. I think 323 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 4: Jake Browning after that Minnesota game started looking over both 324 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 4: shoulders at all times, wondering where the pressure is coming from, 325 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 4: and it affected his play. So that's certainly something that 326 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 4: goes along with this conversation of bringing in Joe Flacco, 327 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 4: a guy that can certainly throw it, a guy who 328 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: can certainly read a defense, but a guy who can't 329 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: move very well in the pocket now behind an offensive 330 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 4: line that really can't protect him. 331 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 2: I'll leave you with this final question. As a quarterback, 332 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: would you rather be unable to throw or unable to move? 333 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 3: Because that feels like what the Bengals are choosing between here. 334 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 4: Yes, isn't that great? Certainly I'd rather be other Joe 335 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 4: Flacco side that. If you block here, here's the thing 336 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 4: in the NFL, right, if it's a running back or 337 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 4: a quarterback, if you block it up, it has to 338 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 4: be executed. And that's the one thing Joe Flacco can do. 339 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 4: If you block it up and give him a shot, 340 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 4: he can rip a throw and execute a play. So, uh, yeah, 341 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 4: I think the Bengals are going to try to bank 342 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: on that. 343 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: Yep, I'm right there with you. Joe. Thank you so much. 344 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 3: We'll talk to you again next week. 345 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 4: That was fun, Austin, just do it again. 346 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: Actually, you know, I'll give you a chance. What do 347 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: you got coming up? What do people need to know 348 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 2: about you and your coverage of the Bangles? Joe Flacco 349 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 2: are going to come down and join the live show 350 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: this week. 351 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 4: That's right, yeah, can you imagine he's got nothing to do, 352 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 4: come on down and yunk it up with a couple 353 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 4: of local TV guys in front of the live studio audience. 354 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 4: Evan mcpheerson tomorrow night. Evan mcpearson is a very, very 355 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 4: fun guest, so we'll have him tomorrow night at Newport 356 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 4: and then Sunday all weekend long. I'll be in Green 357 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 4: Bay with coverage. 358 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: Make sure that you ask Evan how sore he was 359 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 2: after being at the bottom of the pile of the 360 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 2: on side kick, because he you know, he didn't get 361 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 2: a lot of contact, and I would imagine. 362 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 3: About that he felt a little. 363 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: That was my favorite play from Sunday because Evan McPherson 364 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 2: was fighting. He didn't care, he was going after it 365 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: and I appreciated that. 366 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: H Joe, thanks so much to. 367 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 4: Recreate that tomorrow night at Bengals. Now we're gonna have 368 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 4: a live on side kick tutorial from Evan se y'all 369 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 4: love it. 370 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 2: Thanks Joe. That is Joey D. Fox nineteen. Joe, Okay, 371 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: there it is. The Bengals have traded for a quarterback. 372 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: Charlie Goldsmith puts this on his social media. This was 373 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: a twenty twenty two quote from Zach Taylor on Joe 374 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: Flacco quote. I see a guy who has seen everything. 375 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: He plays with confidence, poise, and plays on time. He 376 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 2: can make any throw. Charlie continues. Flacco threw some picks 377 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: this year, but he generally operates the offense and is accurate. 378 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 2: The under center play action game is something to work with. 379 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: Charlie continues. The Browns also benched him. He wasn't able 380 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: to hold on to the starting spot in Indianapolis last 381 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: year either. Is this the most aggressive in season trade 382 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 2: in Bengals history? The alternative would have been pretty hard 383 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: to sell. That comes from our friend, Charlie Goldsmith. All right, 384 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: we'll take a break. I'll get some more information. Actually, 385 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: I do believe I have the trade details here in 386 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: front of me, all right, So the Bengals are receiving 387 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco and a sixth round pick. That sixth round 388 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: pick was originally the sixth round pick of the Detroit Lions. 389 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 2: In exchange, the Bengals are sending a fifth round pick 390 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: to Cleveland. So it is Joe Flacco and a sixth 391 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 2: for a fifth from the Bengals. This will be the 392 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: seventh NFL team that Joe Joe Flacco has played for. 393 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: It will be the third AFC North team for him. 394 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 4: Uh. 395 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 2: It is the first time that the Bengals have ever 396 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 2: completed a trade with the Cleveland Browns. You may remember 397 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: that they tried to trade AJ mccerron to the Browns 398 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: several years ago, but the Browns screwed up the paperwork 399 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 2: and it did not go through. So there you have it. 400 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is the guy. Five three, seven nine, fifteen 401 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: thirty is the phone number. 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