WEBVTT - 11-14-2025 Willie with Katy Talento

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, the healthcare crisis

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<v Speaker 1>in America has caused the shutdown of the government now opened,

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<v Speaker 1>and watching one of the morning talk shows, King Jeffers

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<v Speaker 1>is saying they have another bite at the apple in

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<v Speaker 1>about ten weeks. January thirtieth is not that far away,

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<v Speaker 1>and he says there might be another government shutdown happening,

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<v Speaker 1>which is utterly ridiculous. Putting money into a failed system,

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<v Speaker 1>a failed government program. Doubling down on stupid is often

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<v Speaker 1>what Democrats and what many in Washington do. Some are

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<v Speaker 1>fighting against it. Katie Talento is the executive director of

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<v Speaker 1>the Alliance of Healthcare Sharing and first of all, Katie

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<v Speaker 1>Talento tell us, can you give me, generally in the

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<v Speaker 1>American people the status of health care in America today?

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<v Speaker 1>Volumes have been written on that topic. But about out

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<v Speaker 1>of ninety three percent of us get either our health

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<v Speaker 1>insurance for Medicare, Medicaid from private plans, through employers or

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<v Speaker 1>veterans or whatever. It might be about seven percent through

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<v Speaker 1>the Obamacare exchanges, which have failed miserably. So, since you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the industry, what is happening to us healthcare system

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<v Speaker 1>in America in general? And the response to it by government.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not a good situation. Bill, Thanks for having me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the affordability crisis is hitting everybody, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, premiums are up double digits this year for everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>even if federal employee has got a twelve percent rate hike,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, they get no love for having been

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<v Speaker 2>put out of work for you know, twenty seven weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have to now pay more for their insurance too,

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<v Speaker 2>so at least they're suffering with the rest of us.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that this is going to become a

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<v Speaker 2>campaign issue unfortunately, and Republicans are usually in trouble when

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<v Speaker 2>healthcare becomes a campaign issue. You know, I was a

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<v Speaker 2>veteran of the White House when we were doing repeal

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<v Speaker 2>and replace back in the day, and I can tell

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<v Speaker 2>you it's going to take longer than five weeks for

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<v Speaker 2>us to negotiate some sort of master plan here.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that if the Democrats want.

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<v Speaker 2>To have another shutdown, they will do that at their

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<v Speaker 2>political peril. But you know, that may not be the

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<v Speaker 2>best thing for the American people at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>What happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done many topics the last few days weeks on

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<v Speaker 1>the failure of Obamacare, in which is government subsidizing and

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<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars that might be forty to fifty billion

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<v Speaker 1>a year.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe you have the number.

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<v Speaker 1>That Washington sends directly to insurance companies under a promise

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<v Speaker 1>to hold down premiums and to the to the seven

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<v Speaker 1>percent twenty three million people on Obamacare. Why did Obamacare fail?

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<v Speaker 2>So the promise to hold down premiums has not really

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<v Speaker 2>been tested. Obviously, the premiums have skyrocketed. They've more than

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<v Speaker 2>tripled since twenty ten when.

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<v Speaker 3>The bill was first enacted.

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<v Speaker 2>However, affordability is sort of addressed by Obamacare because they

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<v Speaker 2>just subsidize.

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<v Speaker 3>Your overpriced premiums. And so the vast majority of people who.

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<v Speaker 2>Are buying their plan on the Obamacare exchanges are getting

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<v Speaker 2>premium subsidies, so their premiums are either free or they

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<v Speaker 2>are largely subsidized. And that is truly the only way

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<v Speaker 2>that you can keep anyone who is younger or healthier,

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<v Speaker 2>or who is not sort of already sick from fleeing

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<v Speaker 2>this market where it's so unaffordable.

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<v Speaker 3>That they don't see the value of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But they need to have all these younger, healthy people

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<v Speaker 2>in the insurance pool or the insurers do, or else

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<v Speaker 2>it'll go into what we call in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Insurance business the death spiral.

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<v Speaker 2>Where it's just sicker and older and sicker and older

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<v Speaker 2>people every year, and then the premiums go up, and

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<v Speaker 2>then a few more younger healthy people leave because they

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<v Speaker 2>can't afford it anymore, and then it's older and sicker

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<v Speaker 2>and so just get you get into the spiral, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the.

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<v Speaker 3>Death of an insurance product.

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<v Speaker 2>So they have to force people to stay in the pool,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why it's failing. It was never a good

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<v Speaker 2>value for young healthy people. When you're requiring these policies

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<v Speaker 2>to cover everything from abortion and trans surgeries to maternity

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<v Speaker 2>writers for men and you know, preventive cap smears for men,

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<v Speaker 2>you know like this is this is too much. It's

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<v Speaker 2>too much insurance coverage for what most people need, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not enough insurance coverage for the people who do

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<v Speaker 2>need it because the deductibles are so high they can't

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<v Speaker 2>even afford to use their plan when they when they

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<v Speaker 2>do need it. So it's an absolute failure. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think that there are promising alternatives out there, like health

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<v Speaker 2>care sharing ministries, like health savings accounts like Direct primary Care,

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<v Speaker 2>which is sort of a Netflix subscription for unlimited primary care,

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<v Speaker 2>and people are fleeing to these better alternatives that feel

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<v Speaker 2>more human and feel more rational meeting their needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Funding of failure is what Washington does, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats want Obamacare to be funded. I spoke to a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight year old who called in a couple a

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<v Speaker 1>week or two ago, and this guy says, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Obamacare for like two years. I got out

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<v Speaker 1>because I never I never used it. I never went

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<v Speaker 1>to the er. I never I had a primary care physician,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't feel a need to go. It was

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<v Speaker 1>costing me seven hundred dollars a month, and I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>why am I doing it? I got rid of it. Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>he said to me, look, isn't it true, he called

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<v Speaker 1>me Uncle Bill. Isn't it true, Uncle Bill, that if

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<v Speaker 1>I have something bad happens to me, I can go

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<v Speaker 1>to the er anyway and get care at the er,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I can't pay for it, I can't pay

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<v Speaker 1>for it. So why have insurance if I get the

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<v Speaker 1>product anyway for nothing? How do you respond to him?

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<v Speaker 2>He's exactly right, He's making completely rational choices. You can

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<v Speaker 2>go to the er and they are required to treat

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<v Speaker 2>you regardless of your coverage. Now, you might end up

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<v Speaker 2>with a really horrific building said to you, you might end

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<v Speaker 2>up in collections over it, but at least you will

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<v Speaker 2>be treated in that moment if you're having a life

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<v Speaker 2>threatening issue. I totally sympathize with your caller because he's

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<v Speaker 2>the exact reason why Obamacare is failing. Young healthy people

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<v Speaker 2>they just seed no value in this product, so why

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<v Speaker 2>would they stay? And so you're left with only healthy, unhealthy,

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<v Speaker 2>expensive people driving up premium so that it happens even

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<v Speaker 2>worse next year. That's why this whole project has failed,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why we've got to seek alternatives. I was

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<v Speaker 2>so encouraged by President Trump tweeting or rather truthing out

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<v Speaker 2>in the past couple of weeks about let's just stop

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<v Speaker 2>putting money in insurers' pocket and let's actually put it

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<v Speaker 2>in health savings accounts for people so they can go

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<v Speaker 2>buy what they want.

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<v Speaker 1>Great idea, but a Keem Jeffries and the Democrats don't

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<v Speaker 1>want any part of that because it puts the person

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<v Speaker 1>in charge, not big time health insurers who pay them

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<v Speaker 1>huge amounts of money.

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<v Speaker 4>And campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the average America done understand that about how

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<v Speaker 1>much money every year goes from the US Treasury to

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<v Speaker 1>big time health insurers in order to knock down the

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<v Speaker 1>premiums of individuals who may not use the product at all?

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<v Speaker 1>And how much money is the taxpayer funding healthcare insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 4>How much money we're talking about about, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>About a trillion dollars. I published with it with a trillion.

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<v Speaker 2>With a John Houfkin's researchers a few years ago, we

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<v Speaker 2>estimated that almost half forty seven percent. But the entire

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<v Speaker 2>United States budget goes towards some form of health care.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you're United healthcare, are you in the business

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<v Speaker 1>having taken all this money from the government under Obamacare,

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<v Speaker 1>are you in the business and making sure that you're

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<v Speaker 1>ensured have great healthcare at low cost?

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<v Speaker 4>Or are you in the business of making money?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's exactly right. You know, these giant companies we

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<v Speaker 2>call them the Bukahs, Blue Cross, United Signa at nine, Humana, Buca,

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<v Speaker 2>and these these giant companies, nobody had ever heard of

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<v Speaker 2>some of them, you know, years ago, and now they're on.

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<v Speaker 3>The Fortune fifty list.

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<v Speaker 2>Their stockholders are loving it. Living it up, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>their CEOs are living off they're billionaires. And you know, meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>United Healthcare is denying a third of every claim that

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<v Speaker 2>comes to them. And most people think of their insurer

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<v Speaker 2>like the cable compan They hate them. And so this

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<v Speaker 2>is a product that nobody really wants to pay for

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't see the value in it, and when

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<v Speaker 2>they really need it, when they really need it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an absolute bureaucratic night there to use.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't the insurance companies because they are a for profit

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<v Speaker 1>business in the business of denying claims and having high deductibilities.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's true because I listened to a Keem Jeffries.

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<v Speaker 1>If Republicans don't agree to this, you want people to

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<v Speaker 1>be sick and die in hospitals. You don't want people

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<v Speaker 1>to get medical care. In reality, the Democrats get millions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars in campaign donations from insurance companies, and aren't

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<v Speaker 1>they in the business of making money and not in

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<v Speaker 1>the business of providing healthcare?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the secret of the dirty little secret of healthcare

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<v Speaker 2>is that the insurers are interested in high prices from hospitals,

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<v Speaker 2>and hospitals are interested in lots of sick people.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you get paid.

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<v Speaker 2>When people are sick and high price stuff is done

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<v Speaker 2>to them, you're going to get more sickness and higher

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<v Speaker 2>price stuff. And that's what we're seeing over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>You also say in this column, uh, you believe that

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<v Speaker 1>the recent US government shutdown that ended after forty three

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<v Speaker 1>days result of from protecting lucrative political donations from big

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<v Speaker 1>healthcare insurance. And the media never asked a King Jeffries

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<v Speaker 1>or Democrats the question, how come we're funding the BUCA,

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<v Speaker 1>the large Blue Cross Blue Shield and United Healthcare and SIGNA.

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<v Speaker 1>We're funding them and they're in the business of screwing

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<v Speaker 1>the policyholders.

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<v Speaker 4>Why isn't that brought up by the media.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, to be fair to these politicians.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you, the healthcare swamp funds all

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<v Speaker 2>parties and every single one of them. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>farm industry alone has four or five lobbyists for every

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<v Speaker 2>member of Congress. So nobody is innocent here in DC.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will tell you that you know, these people,

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<v Speaker 2>they are in the business of making money and profiting

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<v Speaker 2>off of our sickness. But the American people are also

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<v Speaker 2>apol polutely committed to having insurance at any cost. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we have seen that. Unfortunately, if you try to take

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the battlescars from the repeal and replaced effort

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty seventeen, if you try to take a single

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<v Speaker 2>dollar away from insurance subsidies for even a small percentage

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<v Speaker 2>of of the American people, you will lose the next election.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think the Republicans take this issue on at

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<v Speaker 2>their peril. The Democrats take this issue on at their peril.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very perils. It's going to make everybody a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit scared. So it'll be very interesting to see what

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<v Speaker 2>happens over the next few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>You seem to say, almost Katie Talento of the Alliance

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<v Speaker 1>for Health Care Sharing, it's almost a soluble problem. The

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats are incentivized to keep the issue front and center.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Obamacare had little or nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the shutdown, because the shutdown was shutting down the

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<v Speaker 1>whole government. So the Democrats said, look, we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to pay the soldiers, We're going to make TSC agents

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<v Speaker 1>sleep in their cars. We're going to shut down snap,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to shut down the entire government on this

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<v Speaker 1>unrelated issue of giving money to insurance companies out of

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<v Speaker 1>the public treasury. And I think the American people bought

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<v Speaker 1>it because politically, most of the polls now indicate this

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<v Speaker 1>weekend that Republicans are blamed for the shutdown and not Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Republicans voted to open the government and Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>voted to close the government, the American people believe that

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<v Speaker 1>the Republicans closed the government and the Democrats wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>open the government, when in reality, the Republicans wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>open the government and the Democrats wanted to close the government.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Democratically, the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 4>Won, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're in a civil war right now over.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're eight traders who actually opened the government.

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<v Speaker 2>But those eight traders, the Democrats who voted with the

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans to reopen the government, they're the ones in the

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<v Speaker 2>swing states, so they kind of know that this is

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<v Speaker 2>not actually a good plan to just shut down not

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<v Speaker 2>do their jobs for months on end.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think Democrats that actually are in.

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<v Speaker 2>Any kind of political peril, we're thanking these eight behind

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<v Speaker 2>the back, behind the scenes all right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And lastly, for those of us who receive healthcare from

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<v Speaker 1>our employer, I work for a large company, and it

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<v Speaker 1>takes a degree in Chinese calculus to figure out all

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<v Speaker 1>the plans and the deductibilities.

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<v Speaker 4>And you want this rider? Do you want that rider?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you want prescriptive care? Do you want not want it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want maternity care? I don't need that very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I need transgender care? Which I don't think? God

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<v Speaker 1>hope I never need that. And so I leave it

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<v Speaker 1>to my wife to decide what do we do. And

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<v Speaker 1>according to polling, the majority of employee or employee based

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<v Speaker 1>plans are popular with employees, which is about one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty some million people. But still the cost keeps

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<v Speaker 1>going up. If you're on Medicare Medicaid generally you pay

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<v Speaker 1>little or nothing anyway. You don't have a dog in

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<v Speaker 1>the fight. So can you tell me get out your

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<v Speaker 1>crystal ball, Katie Talento? How does this issue resolve itself

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<v Speaker 1>without a complete collapse of our medical system?

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<v Speaker 4>How do we resolve it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know that we're going to resolve that. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very nervous that we're going to end up with

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<v Speaker 2>single payer at some point because it is not a

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<v Speaker 2>sustainable trajectory. And you're exactly right that those who are

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<v Speaker 2>bearing the largest cost of this are wage earners at

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<v Speaker 2>big employers who are actually paying for most healthcare in

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<v Speaker 2>this country.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right.

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<v Speaker 2>Half those country is insured on the job. And those companies,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they have some other core mission that's not

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<v Speaker 2>running a health plan, but they're now in the health

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<v Speaker 2>insurance business, and that business is absolutely spiraling. And so

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<v Speaker 2>it's a huge crisis for every company. And so if

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<v Speaker 2>we don't get this under control, I fear very much

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<v Speaker 2>it will be the business community that pressures Congress to

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<v Speaker 2>have a complete government takeover of healthcare.

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, explain single payer. I have a pretty good grasp

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<v Speaker 1>of what it is that everyone under medicare. Explain to

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<v Speaker 1>the average Americans what is single payer, how would it work?

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<v Speaker 4>And why is it a bad idea?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, single payer is what every other country in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, literally every other country in the world, has

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<v Speaker 2>decided to do about healthcare, where the government actually pays

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<v Speaker 2>for healthcare, and they do it in different ways. In

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<v Speaker 2>some countries like Israel and Germany, they basically do it

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<v Speaker 2>like an Obamacare on steroids, where it's all filter through

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<v Speaker 2>insurance companies which are.

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<v Speaker 3>Just agents of the state.

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<v Speaker 2>But at least you pick an insurance plan like Medicare

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<v Speaker 2>advantage for instance. But other countries like the UK or

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<v Speaker 2>like Canada, you know, they just have the government. You

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<v Speaker 2>just walk into the government clinic and the government hospital.

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<v Speaker 3>And there are no insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason why this is a problem, and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean again like there are trade offs. Right for some

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<v Speaker 2>services like primary care, it's a much better experience and

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<v Speaker 2>it's much more sane in these countries where you have

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<v Speaker 2>easy and free and unlimited access to primary care and

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<v Speaker 2>preventive care. But what happens in these situations is when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes times that you need specialty care, there is

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<v Speaker 2>rationing and long lines, and you don't get the best technology,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't get the timely treatment, and cancer patients

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<v Speaker 2>are waiting, and people with you know who need knee

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<v Speaker 2>replacements are waiting for years. There are people who die

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<v Speaker 2>on the wait list for their knee replacement. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's not a good situation, and America has chosen.

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<v Speaker 3>A different path. I hope that we figure a way

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<v Speaker 3>out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>There are some innovative and creative ideas out there, like

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<v Speaker 2>health care sharing ministries, like health savings accounts for everyone

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<v Speaker 2>I think that might help as we As you know,

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump actually implemented when I was there, a Christ

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<v Speaker 2>transparency initiative, forcing hospitals and ensures to post their secret

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<v Speaker 2>prices publicly in an effort to try to create a

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<v Speaker 2>health care market. What we have right now is either

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<v Speaker 2>free nor market in healthcare. So to the extent that

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<v Speaker 2>we can force an actual Christ competition in health care,

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<v Speaker 2>we might just be able to pull this thing off.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's going to take a miracle from God.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Katie Talento, executive director of Alliance of health Care Sharing,

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<v Speaker 1>you've laid it out, and I fear this issue is

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<v Speaker 1>too easy to demagogue, which means you're I had it

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<v Speaker 1>toured within ten years of Medicare for All system in

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<v Speaker 1>which you will ration healthcare, and it's gonna be similar

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<v Speaker 1>to Canada. And most of my Canadian friends get their

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<v Speaker 1>medical services of any exceptional quality or quantity from the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. They don't stick in Canada because to get

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<v Speaker 1>a knee replacement or they have cancer treatment is thinking

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<v Speaker 1>months you'll die on the list before it's replaced. And

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<v Speaker 1>if someone needs a knee replacement in America, you can

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<v Speaker 1>get it a week from Tuesday. Katie Talento, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>great American. Laid out the problems once again. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Katie, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a great American. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you Bill, you too, God bless you.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's continue with more. There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to say, but the politicians, especially Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>are not incentivized to solve the problem because politically, in

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<v Speaker 1>their minds, they benefit from low information voters. Bill Cunningham

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio one hundreds that w you all.

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<v Speaker 3>Don me