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Speaker 1: Certainly a lot to talk about. Let's bring on columnists.

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Speaker 1: Paul Seiss from the Post CASETTEAO will be filling in

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Speaker 1: for me this Friday. Paul, Uh, we're just learning to

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Speaker 1: Patrick Graham, the Vegas defensive coordinator, will be coming to

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh to take that position. That's an uninspiring hire for me.

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Speaker 1: What do you say?

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Speaker 2: I would say that as an uninspiring of a week

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is basically to me, I think honestly,

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Speaker 2: I know Mike McCarthy is a reasonably good coach and

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Speaker 2: all the other good stuff. But at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, to me, I'm sorry, Uh, it just feels

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Speaker 2: like this is the laziest Uh they could have possibly

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Speaker 2: uh you know, gone in terms of hiring him, and

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Speaker 2: then they went and kind of hired a guy who's

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Speaker 2: just sort of okay and because he's familiar. I don't know, Mark,

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Speaker 2: I think it needs be better than that, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: No, I think so. I think they needed to move forward.

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Speaker 1: I think they needed to do a reset and change things. Instead,

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Speaker 1: they've gone in the furthest direction from a reset possible.

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Speaker 1: Now that said Paul. Everybody loved that press conference. They're

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Speaker 1: pulling the wool over the injurs eyes by bringing in

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Speaker 1: the inser. And like I keep saying, I don't think

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Speaker 1: McCarthy's a bad coach. I just think it's a bad hire.

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Speaker 1: And I wonder what the heck happened with Shula and Shieldhouse,

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Speaker 1: how they went from being serious candidates to not even

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Speaker 1: getting an in person interview. I think the minute Art

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Speaker 1: had even an inkling tom On was gonna quit, he

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I you know, I think that

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Speaker 2: one of the things that happened was Art actually got scared.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a guy who basically is very risk averse,

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Speaker 2: and he's a guy who just decided that to say

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Speaker 2: for out, you know, was more important going to safe

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Speaker 2: for out, to make sure that, you know, they can

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Speaker 2: keep their little streak of non losing seasons, and Mike

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Speaker 2: McCarthy's good enough to do that, and that's kind of

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Speaker 2: all they.

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Speaker 3: Really aspire to these days.

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Speaker 2: The two young guys didn't even really get a real chance,

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Speaker 2: And you know, I don't even know if the two

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Speaker 2: other guys they brought in were legitimately brought in for

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Speaker 2: any other reason other than to satisfy the role that

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Speaker 2: they are the ones that are responsible for. So it

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Speaker 2: does feel like this was sort of a preordained thing where,

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Speaker 2: you know, Art Rooney looked around and said, well, here's

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Speaker 2: the guy who's a safe coach that we can hire

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Speaker 2: that everybody will be excited about it. And here's the thing,

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Speaker 2: my Mark, I hate the whole winning the press conference thing.

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Speaker 2: Who gives our rats? You know what about winning a

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Speaker 2: press conference?

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Speaker 1: I remember when Ben Hallen.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember when Ben Holland was introduced and everybody

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Speaker 2: ripped him and said, this guy is a room. This

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Speaker 2: guy is a total you know, just a total loser.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what he's good at. Why would

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Speaker 2: they even bring him in? And guess what, he turned

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about all of that. I just again,

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're reaffirming the goal is to not

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Speaker 1: and I think too, that Art didn't want some youngest

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Speaker 1: Art one is something that he personally was comfortable with,

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Speaker 1: and that's Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely, Mark, I would be willing to bet that

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Speaker 2: Sula and the other guy's name is w stial House

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Speaker 2: or stale House or whatever the hell's name is, right,

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Speaker 2: I would be willing to bet that those two guys

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Speaker 2: they came in and they basically said, your organization is antiquated.

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Speaker 2: The way you look at football is antiquated, your facilities

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Speaker 2: be willing to bet that the Rooneys, that Art Rooney

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Speaker 1: I agree, but contradictorily, you know, they would have fit

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Speaker 1: But again, I think the comfort zone was ultimate to

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Speaker 1: Art the second I will say, I think McCarthy will

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Speaker 2: use and benefit the benefit. I think DK metcalf will benefit.

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Speaker 2: But Mark, they've got five picks in the top ninety nine,

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Speaker 2: they better use at least two of them for receivers, and.

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Speaker 1: They better go sign a legitimate starting wide receiver too,

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Speaker 1: that back, Paul, I think they did have a number

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Speaker 2: And and again, Mark, I've used the line a few times.

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Speaker 2: The receiving corps last year was pickings and five guys

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Really, you're You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: So they need to go out and get two or

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Speaker 2: utilize a lot more. Uh. But again, if they don't

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Speaker 2: get more receivers, Mark, I'm not sure how much they've

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Paul's ice to Postcazette here on the

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Speaker 1: Mark Madden Show. Now there's a report too, they're retaining

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Speaker 1: Tom arth as the quarterbacks coach, who had Aaron Rodgers' favor.

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Speaker 1: It looks like they're putting on a full court press

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, to me, it works so well

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Speaker 2: this year, why not bring it, bring them all back,

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Speaker 2: bring everybody back that was on this year's lot, to

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Speaker 2: bring him back. He'll bring back Arthur Smith. If you can't,

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Speaker 2: I don't understand what the point is when you go

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Speaker 2: nine years without a playoff win, when you go this year.

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Speaker 2: The only reason, listen, listen, let's really cut to the taste.

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Speaker 2: The only reason they made the playoffs is because the

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Speaker 2: they completely fell apart, they kind of quit on hardball.

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Speaker 2: If the Ravens actually had any kind of effort at

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Speaker 2: I can't really see how we would be disappointed with

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Speaker 2: And that's what it looks like they're trying to do.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea why other than you're trying to

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Speaker 2: and move your franchise forward. And that's the most disappointing thing.

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Speaker 3: Mark.

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Speaker 2: They had a chance to reset the thing, reset the franchise,

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Speaker 2: back Mike Tomlin light although Mike commem heavy it was

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Speaker 1: Like I said, a moment ago, Paul between McCarthy and Graham.

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Speaker 1: That's becoming fashionable in Pittsburgh, And here I am losing weight.

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Speaker 1: What about Ballichick not making the Hall of Fame on

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think it's stupid. I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: cheating scandals is just kind of the most silly things

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Speaker 1: Well, I think there's something to them, but they were

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Speaker 1: already adjudicated. I don't think it necessarily diminishes three nothing

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Speaker 1: Bonds and Clemens aren't in, I understand people keeping Belichick out.

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Speaker 1: And what amuses me the most is people who were

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Speaker 1: cheating is cheating, you should feel consistently about both those issues.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yes, But there's one very important distinction

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Speaker 2: is there isn't a there isn't a moral clause or

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Speaker 2: Fame voting for football, like there isn't baseball.

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Speaker 1: Right, think that Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens never funked

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Speaker 2: Either, exactly, but you know that that's you know what

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Speaker 2: Again, you have a Baseball Hall of Fame that doesn't

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Speaker 1: That's a good idea. I think I think Trump might

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Speaker 1: take inspiration from that. Paul tremendous stuff. As always, enjoy

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Speaker 2: Week, my man, Thank you, I'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 1: That's the great Paul's Ice. I'm the somewhat great Mark Madden.

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Speaker 1: just tuning in. The big news is Bill Belichick did

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Speaker 6: Hey, Mark, I follow you everywhere I can. Oh good

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Speaker 6: your commentary. The question is her comment is Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: What did the defensive coordinator actually do? With Tomlin as

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Speaker 1: by me. I think Mike McCarthy's a good play caller.

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Speaker 6: I agree, not with you. Not an inspiring hire, but

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Speaker 1: Of this has been inspiring, but it can't be as boring.

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Speaker 1: You're right about that. It cannot be as boring. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to Dick. Dick, you're all with the super genius.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So the voters for the Hall of Fame are media members,

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Speaker 4: so not.

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Speaker 1: All of them, but a lot of them.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, So when Bell, let's say Belichick cheated, right,

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Speaker 4: the other teams in the NFL lost out on that.

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Speaker 2: Walled media members that every.

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Speaker 1: Single pace that has something to do with it, many

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Speaker 1: and even more deplorable reason in keeping him out because

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Speaker 5: Okay, so when is Belichick in?

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Speaker 1: When's the eligible again that to come next year?

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Speaker 6: Okay, we'll go out forbid.

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Speaker 5: Hey a second, do you think the ruin and he's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but The Steelers are always going to spend to

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Speaker 1: Joining me now to talk Penguins as they return home

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Speaker 3: Well, time change, you know, when you go for a week,

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Speaker 1: No, no, no question about that. Let's hope the fans

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Speaker 3: much the fans, you know, staff, everyone because of how

432
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 3: his career went here, and I think it affected his game.

433
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: And then when you get a guy who's leaving a

434
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Speaker 3: pressure filled situation and coming to a team where he's

435
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Speaker 3: just there to be a good goalie, he doesn't have

436
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Speaker 3: that outside pressure. I think he leaves a lot of

437
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Speaker 3: that pressure back in Edmonton and he could come here

438
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Speaker 3: and just get back to enjoying the game, feeling comfortable,

439
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 3: and he's a veteran guy and he's gonna get better

440
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Speaker 3: with time, and it's it's a it's definitely a big

441
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: difference from Jari to Skinner, you know, and it's just

442
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Speaker 3: from being a veteran and just getting on a role.

443
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Speaker 3: And obviously it helps when your team is winning and

444
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 3: they're and they're feeling good about their game, right, And

445
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 3: when your defensemen are blocking shots, when guys are you know,

446
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 3: making sure they're not turning pucks over, that makes a

447
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: goalie feel really good and again he's gonna just keep playing.

448
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 8: Well.

449
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Speaker 1: How much does the personality of the team revolve around

450
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Speaker 1: the goaltender, because I know it did with your teammate

451
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 1: Mark Henry Flurry with every team he's been on them.

452
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like the big you know, he's a part

453
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Speaker 3: of like the big piece.

454
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Speaker 2: Right.

455
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Speaker 3: There's like little pieces of the puzzle, puzzle, but he's

456
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Speaker 3: considered one of the bigger pieces of the puzzle.

457
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Speaker 2: Right.

458
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Speaker 3: You think of Crosby, you think of those guys that

459
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Speaker 3: score a lot of goals. You know, you think your

460
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Speaker 3: top defenseman, that goalie is in that big piece of puzzle. Right,

461
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 3: He's a big piece of the puzzle. And that that

462
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 3: makes you feel good. And when the goalie makes those

463
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: key saves, it helps you relax a little bit more

464
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Speaker 3: with the puck because you have a confidence playing in

465
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Speaker 3: front of him, because you know, if something does go

466
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: wrong or if there's penalties in the first period, we

467
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: feel confident that our goalie has the ability to keep

468
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Speaker 3: us in the game, making those key stops at key times.

469
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Speaker 3: So a goalie does make a big difference, a comforting

470
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Speaker 3: difference when you play in front of a goalie that's

471
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Speaker 3: playing well and is confident.

472
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Speaker 1: What's funny you mention that, because when Skinner has a lead,

473
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Speaker 1: I feel like he's going to win the game. I

474
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Speaker 1: feel like he's going to figure out how to hold

475
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Speaker 1: on and I'll be one TK after so many disasters.

476
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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I did not feel that way about Jari.

477
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Speaker 3: No, and I think again, he dealt with a lot

478
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Speaker 3: of adverse I don't think things sometimes just don't go

479
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 3: your way, you know what I mean. Sometimes it's a

480
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: great fit and you find your game and you you know,

481
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 3: you just fit in and things just.

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Speaker 1: Go your way.

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Speaker 3: You know. When I was here, I felt like I

484
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Speaker 3: played my best hockey. I was around great players, guys

485
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: that pushed me, you know, and then I think about

486
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 3: my line mates, you know, I just felt really good

487
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 3: and confident in like enjoying the game, playing with Jordan

488
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: Stall and Matt Cook. When I went somewhere else and

489
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: I was trying to find chemistry, it was very difficult

490
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: to do, you know, and sometimes you have it, sometimes

491
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 3: you don't. And I felt that Jari was kind of

492
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: in the situation that I was in the San Jos

493
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: where no matter what, things just didn't go my way,

494
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: where it was either I couldn't you know, put the

495
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 3: puck in the back of the net, or you know,

496
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: for him, he couldn't make a save on the first shot.

497
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: And when that happens, I don't care who you are,

498
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: it's gonna affect your game. When you get seven eight

499
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 3: goals scored on the first shot, like you're gonna feel

500
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Speaker 3: that you're gonna carry that, and I think he did,

501
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 3: and I do think it affected his game. And when

502
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Speaker 3: you get a new goalie that that doesn't have any

503
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 3: history in a team, that makes you know, those simple,

504
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 3: simple stops that helps you. And then you think of Skinner, Yeah,

505
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: when we're up, like he's a veteran goal you like,

506
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: he's not given up that that simple goal or the

507
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: wide shot. He understands that he needs to stay focused

508
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 3: for the full sixty minutes. And when you do that,

509
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: you don't let any of those like little crunchers get

510
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: in and that helps your team a lot. And again,

511
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: those winning those one goal games, those are the ones

512
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 3: that push you in the playoffs, and it pushes you

513
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Speaker 3: into the playoffs, So goalies mean a ton.

514
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Speaker 1: We're talking to Tyler Kennedy here on one oh five

515
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Speaker 1: nine the XC Tyler during Penguin's telecast between periods and

516
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Speaker 1: after the game on Sports Net Pittsburgh. Here's the news story, TK,

517
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Speaker 1: that's controversial. Brian rust has suspended three games. You saw

518
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: that hit on Besser. That's more than Trueba ever got.

519
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: And he's a career headhunter. This is not the way

520
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: Rusty plays. What's your take on both that hit and

521
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Speaker 1: the suspension.

522
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 3: Very shocked, I'm very surprised that he did it. And

523
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: even you know, when you have those controversial calls, right

524
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 3: when they you know, it's one guy's opinion.

525
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: Like I always.

526
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 3: Feel like you need to have a guy like Paris

527
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 3: that was a third you know, it was a fourth line,

528
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: tough guy, smart guy, nothing against him. But I also

529
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: feel like you need to get a retired player that

530
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: was kind of like a superstar that had guys run

531
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: at him, that had a different opinion, you know, and understanding,

532
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: because I feel like if you had a guy, you know,

533
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: just say Chris Kunitz or someone like that who played

534
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 3: in the top line, even him, you know, maybe more

535
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 3: of like a pure skill guy and say like guys

536
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: like I feel like he would step in there and say, guys,

537
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 3: it's his first offense and you're gonna give him three

538
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: games when he's one of the fastest guys in the

539
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: league and he's moving his feet and things happen so much,

540
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: and you're gonna penalize him like that because of that

541
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: mistake like that, That is very, very surprising to me.

542
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: And again, I do think they need more than one

543
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 3: guy making decisions on those on those controversial calls, and

544
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: I think it would really help because again when I

545
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: see that play mark and how fast the NHL is now,

546
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 3: like if a guy pulls up on a shot or

547
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: if he changes the angle of his head in a

548
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: split second, Brian Russ is so fast that it's gonna

549
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: be hard for him to like stop and adjust. And

550
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Speaker 3: my view on that, I've seen Brian Russ play for many,

551
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: many years. He is not a headhunter. I don't think

552
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: when he comes down from the blue line he's going,

553
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make this guy pay for shooting the puck.

554
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: I think he's trying to be physical. I think he's

555
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: trying to knock the guy on his butt. You know,

556
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any actually enjoyed that we're starting

557
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: to knock guys on their butt in front of the net.

558
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: But when he's coming down. If you know Brian Russ,

559
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: and if you're a guy that thinks that's been on

560
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 3: a team, that's been that scene, top players play like

561
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: Brian Russ, you know his his thought process is not

562
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: to go for the head. No, no, no, no.

563
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: Qu Yeah, and my big thing is TK I hate

564
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: what about is I do? But it's unbelievable. The true

565
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: but always gets the benefit of the dot in this

566
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: one time Russ didn't.

567
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: And yeah, you know, yeah he's a hitter. But like again,

568
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: like coming across, like I always feel when guys when

569
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: a when a player is going from east to west

570
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: and the guy catches them moving across the ice, those

571
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: are the ones that you're almost I think of, Those

572
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: are the ones you're almost targeting his upper shoulder head.

573
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Speaker 3: Right when you think of Matt Cook, like when he

574
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Speaker 3: had a guy coming across, like I do believe Matt

575
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Speaker 3: Cook was there too. Hey, I'm gonna you know, part

576
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: of my job is to lay this guy out, you know,

577
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: that's what what's frustrating. And when you play that line,

578
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: you are going to get suspended. But Brian Russ, I

579
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: don't think he's had a fight. I don't. I don't

580
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 3: think he's that kind of player. And to not give

581
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: him maybe one game and you know, take the money

582
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: and run, you know, one of those ones, like take

583
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: money from losing one game.

584
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Speaker 1: That's what I learned.

585
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll learn the lesson, you know, but to like

586
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: kind of bury him with three games is very surprising

587
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: to me.

588
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: If Jason Robertson is available, the star winger from Dallas,

589
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: should the Penguins pursue him, and how much would you

590
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: give up to get him? A guy twenty six years

591
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: old in his prime, and if Dallas does trade and

592
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: which honestly tk I dot they pulled the trigger, but

593
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: they just can't afford him under the cap.

594
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 3: Well like Brian Russ, I don't think I would give

595
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: up a guy like Brian Russ because you're gonna have

596
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: to give up Brian Russ in another you know, a

597
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: McGroarty two, you know, But what I would give up

598
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: is there a raquel and a McGroarty or Mquel, you know,

599
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: a Raquel and even a McGroarty and Ako, because I

600
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: do think.

601
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Speaker 1: What if it had to be Raquel McGroarty in a

602
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: first round pick?

603
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 3: Mark, I still believe that you do it because me too.

604
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: First round picks. Yeah, their first round picks. But how

605
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: many guys after the after the top ten have really

606
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: like blossomed into like a guy like Robinson. Not many.

607
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: And the one thing is, I don't think Dallas is

608
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: going to get rid of them, like I think he's there.

609
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna figure out a way under. The

610
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: company changed agents to a guy who's very Dallas friendly.

611
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: So but but you got to look into.

612
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: It, is my point, right, And I was thinking of

613
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: like what other guy on Dallas is young and good

614
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: and they have that Wyatt Johnson. I think it's Wyatt Johnson.

615
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: The big money.

616
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're gonna have to pick between their stars

617
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: because they can't. They just don't have the room. And

618
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: if I'm Kyle Dubis, I might be going after more

619
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: of a guy like that and making them kind of

620
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: feel the pressure of what's going on. But they do

621
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 3: have another year to play with. But again, I'm when

622
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: I think of guys that established goal scorers. I'm giving

623
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: up a lot because they've proven that they've scored at

624
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: a high level already in the league consistently. And first

625
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: round picks, unless it's the top ten, you're hoping it

626
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: comes to fruition and you don't know, it's it's like

627
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: a hope, you know.

628
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: And they had three first round picks just last year TK,

629
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: so they're they're full up in that regard.

630
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's a guy that's twenty six and he

631
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: can he can help us a ton. And this is

632
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: like maybe one of the best situations I think the

633
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: Penguins could be in. They're on a roll. They have

634
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: a ton of room to make moves, and they're playing great.

635
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: And yeah, they're playing great defensively, they're they're guys that.

636
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: The balance of their lines is unbelievable. It's been a

637
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: long time since the Penguins have four lines that all work.

638
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they come in waves, you know, and that's we

639
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: haven't like from the third line, fourth line all the

640
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 3: way through. And when you have four lines rolling, it

641
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: keeps guys fresher at the inn of road trips, right, Melkin,

642
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 3: those guys are fresher all that stuff. But you got

643
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 3: to give a lot of credit to guys buying in.

644
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 3: And when you think of guys buying in from Carlson

645
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: to Latang last year, I thought those two guys, you know,

646
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 3: they give up a lot. There was two on ones

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Speaker 3: left and right. You know they were playing not whole hockey,

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Speaker 3: but they were giving up a lot. They were, you know,

649
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Speaker 3: pinching at the wrong times. This year, those two have

650
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Speaker 3: been everything you were hoping. They were going to be

651
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Speaker 3: solid offensive, keeping everyone under control, exactly what you need.

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Speaker 3: And then you think of the guys coming in that

653
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Speaker 3: I really haven't heard of, like Braso and having career years,

654
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Speaker 3: and that's about opportunity, right. You don't know if a

655
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Speaker 3: Brazo is going to be a goal scorer if he's

656
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Speaker 3: on the fourth line getting five minutes because he ain't

657
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Speaker 3: gonna score. So there's a lot of great things. And

658
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Speaker 3: then when you think of the trade deadline, it's like

659
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Speaker 3: we're sitting with all the cards. We're sitting with like, hey,

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Speaker 3: we can make moves or we don't. It all depends

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Speaker 3: what other teams are willing to give up or you know,

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Speaker 3: to get good players.

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Speaker 1: TK is always great in put great work on sports

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Speaker 1: Net Pittsburgh as well, and we'll talk again soon.

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Speaker 3: All right, Thanks Mark, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: That's Tyler Kennedy, always that kid, boyd kid. I knew

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Speaker 1: him when he was a kid. That's why I said

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Speaker 1: that he started out decent in the media. He's become

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Speaker 1: such a great analyst of hockey and I respect that

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Speaker 1: he's worked in his craft.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Just got a text about it. Matt Barkowski also paying

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Speaker 1: TK via text. They compliment. Uh, it's time to ask

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Speaker 1: Mark Anything uh A three three four one two WSDX

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Speaker 1: or use the double secret probation number four one two

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Speaker 1: three three three WN the X or leave a talkback

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Speaker 1: via the microphone icon at the iHeartMedia app Ask Mark

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Speaker 1: Anything next one O five to nine.

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Speaker 7: Time now to send in your questions for Ask Mark Anything,

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Speaker 7: use the talkback Mike on your free iHeartRadio app and

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Speaker 7: record your question for the super genius.

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Speaker 9: Tomorrow nights, the Pens face off against the Blackhawks. Game

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Speaker 9: time is seven. Our coverage starts at six here every

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Speaker 9: game and the best coverage right here on your Home

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Speaker 9: of the Pens one O five nine the X.

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Speaker 5: Don't mis man, and this is one of those fouture

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Speaker 5: bring the duct tape type of fairs.

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Speaker 1: What they're gonna make us play a wimp game.

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Speaker 2: It's not fair.

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Speaker 1: It's dot far It's not fair.

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Speaker 3: The X at one, O five nine.

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Speaker 1: Crazy stuff and Champions League looking full win big and

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Speaker 1: finished third in the table. Madrid might drop out the

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Speaker 1: top eight and miss out on that VIPs. She did

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Speaker 1: drop out of the top eight and we'll miss out

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Speaker 1: on that vibe. I love watching soccer, the real football.

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Speaker 1: I could talk about it and watch it all day.

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Speaker 1: The big news is the Wingers back. Kip said they

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Speaker 1: were done and they got I guess pretty good offers

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Speaker 1: to do five shows, are going to do them this summer.

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Speaker 1: So hey, I'm glad. I love Winger Reb back on

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Speaker 1: stage so very much. Looking forward. Reb has a comedy

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Speaker 1: show coming up in Pittsburgh. He's doing comedy too, So

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Speaker 1: Rebel joined me next week and we'll talk about Winger

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Speaker 1: as well. Right now, though, it's kind to ass mark

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Speaker 1: Hyphengas dot com. Let's go to a talkback.

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Speaker 10: Could you consider the worst of the two owners that

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Speaker 10: Mike McCarthy will have coached for Art, Rooney, Orr Jones.

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Speaker 3: All these the Green Bay Packers out of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, green Bay is owned by the town, and I

713
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: think Mike did pretty good at green Bay. I think

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Speaker 1: he did pretty good at Dallas, won twelve games three

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Speaker 1: years in a row. And that was despite a general

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Speaker 1: manager who's a fan as well as the owner, Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, we'll see, but the Rooneyes aren't

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Speaker 1: bad to work for. You get job security if you're

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Speaker 1: the head coach, certainly. I just don't think Art has

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Speaker 1: a clue about what it takes to assemble a winning

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Speaker 1: football organization. He can assemble a ten win organization, but

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Speaker 1: not go any further than that. Let's go to Dave. Dave,

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Speaker 1: you're on with Mark What up? Man?

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Speaker 11: Hey, what are your thoughts on the Berett Michaels tour

725
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Speaker 11: stopping in a lieu of him requesting more money than

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Speaker 11: his other Bandman's No, he's just on the show and

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Speaker 11: now you were anticipating You.

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Speaker 5: Mean the tour?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean the tour stopping? I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't understand what you mean by that.

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Speaker 11: Well, there was some beef with the bandmates.

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Speaker 1: About what you mean about you mean about Poison not

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Speaker 1: touring right correct? Poisoner talked about a fortieth anniversary tour

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Speaker 1: of Open Up and say Ah, their debut album, and

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Speaker 1: that fell apart. And now Ricky Rockett the drummer has

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Speaker 1: his knickers in a twist.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I'm totally team Brett on this. I mean, Poisons

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Speaker 1: nothing without Brett. If Poison thinks like Brett apparently wanted

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Speaker 1: like what sixty percent of the money something like that,

741
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Speaker 1: I don't know that that's true. But if he didn't,

742
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Speaker 1: he should because Poison can't do it without Brett. But

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Speaker 1: Brett does it every every year, every summer, especially with

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Speaker 1: Hot Poison, So why would't Brett want more money? Brett

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Speaker 1: with the Brett Michaels band, it's a bunch of good guys.

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Speaker 1: Big Pete on Easy Street, who we've talked to on

747
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Speaker 1: the show, that the guitar player, and they bring guys

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Speaker 1: like Lou Graham and d Snyder along to do to

749
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Speaker 1: do the the the party grap They have great opening

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Speaker 1: bands like Don Felder and night Ranger. I mean, it's

751
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Speaker 1: just a better situation. It's a better show, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: The Bret Michaels Party Grass the last how many years

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Speaker 1: have been better shows than the last? How many times

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Speaker 1: I saw poison? What do you think?

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Speaker 11: I mean, it's it's always been great. I mean it's

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Speaker 11: a good cause for the fundraising and all that stuff

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Speaker 11: in California, So no doubt about that. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 11: one hundred percent with you and in the situation as

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Speaker 11: far as that's concerned with what he brings to the

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Speaker 11: table and poison. And then one more thing, what are

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Speaker 11: your thoughts on Deon Sanders finding his player's roughly two

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Speaker 11: thousand dollars for missing practice next season?

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Speaker 1: What next season? How does he know they're gonna miss practice?

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Speaker 11: Well, if they do, that's his stipulation. If you're skipping

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Speaker 11: or cutting cutting practice and you're not there, you will

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Speaker 11: have financial consequences.

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Speaker 1: Would any of them skip practice? But how can he

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Speaker 1: find somebody?

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Speaker 3: What if?

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Speaker 1: What if somebody who doesn't make any nil makes practice

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Speaker 1: missus practice? What where's he supposed to get the money?

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Speaker 11: That's a great point.

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Speaker 3: Is just an.

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Speaker 1: Ass who had one good seie to Colorado and now

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Speaker 1: he's proving he doesn't know what he's doing and he

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Speaker 1: just wants to keep in the public eye. But you

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Speaker 1: know what the sad part is, he's going to coach

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Speaker 1: worse and worse, and he'll absolutely be an NFL head

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Speaker 1: coach before too long. Let's go to Brian.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 2: Mark appreciate this show. Give us some insight on Liverpool

782
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Speaker 2: a little bit underperforming.

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Speaker 1: This year, some big signings not panning out too well. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it takes a lot of time to bed

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Speaker 1: in big signings. You had a lot of guys get

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Speaker 1: hurt too. Right now we're done to one center back

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Speaker 1: and no right backs with people playing out a position.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not too bothered about how Liverpool have played.

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Speaker 1: It's tough to win that league, I know, because we

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Speaker 1: did it just last year. We're the number three seed

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Speaker 1: in the Champions League playoff. You know, I'm disappointed with

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Speaker 1: certain results. I'm disappointed with losing on the last kick

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Speaker 1: of the game as many times as we have not,

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Speaker 1: at least just this past weekend. But I think overall

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Speaker 1: it's a team that, if it's not headed in the

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Speaker 1: right direction, as the assets to do so soon. That said,

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Speaker 1: you can't wait for everyone slot to write the ship in.

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Speaker 1: Zabi Alonso, the former Liverpool midfielder who just managed Real

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Speaker 1: Madrid and got let go after not even two years.

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Speaker 1: We shouldn't forget he was Liverpool's first choice when they

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Speaker 1: did higher slot. So so things have to get going properly.

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Speaker 1: Why what do you think, Oh you hung up? Well,

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Speaker 1: that's good because you don't know. Let's go to Malone.

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Speaker 1: Malone as Mark anything.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Mark, I think it would be great if next

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Speaker 10: year McCarthy goes nine to eight and then there's a

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Speaker 10: certain faction of a narrative that says, well, yeah, they

808
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Speaker 10: did that with Tomlins players.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any narrative that can take place

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00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: this coming season that will entertain us or leave us

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Speaker 1: anything but disappointed. I think as soon as Mike's record

812
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Speaker 1: falls below five hundred, they'll forget that he came from Greenfield.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to a talkback.

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Speaker 2: What I mean?

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Speaker 8: With all the Belichick controversy, it's got me thinking, is

816
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Speaker 8: Ben Roethlisberger a first ballot Hall of Famer? I always

817
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 8: used to think so, but now I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: What would keep what would keep him out? Are you

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Speaker 1: implying that the legal troubles he had where he got

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Speaker 1: accused but never arrested, prosecuted, everything was was false. No,

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and if not, we'll talk about on the show a lot.

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Speaker 12: Let's go to a talkback, Heybrook, got here in Florida.

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Speaker 12: If you had a last deal you had it, what

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Speaker 12: would it be?

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Speaker 1: I've said that frequently. I would have a prime rib

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Speaker 1: and I would have wings from Big Shot. Bob's my

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Speaker 1: my flavor. Oh wait, he said, if it was only vegetarian,

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Speaker 1: I probably just wrap myself And you're like, no, you

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Speaker 1: know what, well as an omelet count or eggs not vegetarian.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the definition of vegetarian is. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'd have, I'd go to First Watch and

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Speaker 1: have their chicken avocado salad without chicken. I do that

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Speaker 1: all the time.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, it's great, let's go to one more talkback.

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Speaker 11: Hey Mark.

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Speaker 8: With the cold temperatures going on, I wanted to talk

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Speaker 8: about hearty meals again and see.

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Speaker 3: If you had to go to Kroc potted meal growing

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Speaker 3: up that you always had you and your mom.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it was a crockpot meal per se.

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Speaker 1: But I said just a little bit ago on the

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Speaker 1: show a few weeks ago, we had something called the

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Speaker 1: rice dish, and it would be rice with whatever my

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Speaker 1: mother had to put in it, and it would be

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Speaker 1: oftentimes mushroom, oftentimes spaghetti, sauce, sometimes ground beef, sometimes a

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Speaker 1: little bit of chicken. Just stuff like that you would

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Speaker 1: put together. I mean sometimes something Chinese would use soy sauce,

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Speaker 1: you know, after the fact. It was something that was

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Speaker 1: always different because there was always different stuff in it,

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Speaker 1: and we just liked a great deal. And it was

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Speaker 1: good too because my mom wasn't home for every meal

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Speaker 1: because she taught. She was a great speech and debate

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Speaker 1: coach too, and she taught night school to get us

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Speaker 1: Penguin tickets. I'll never forget that. But but you could

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Speaker 1: leave it in the in the in addition and heat

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Speaker 1: it up in the microwave or in the oven before microwave.

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00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, that that was a I'm tearing up a

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Speaker 1: little bit thinking of it, just like Mike McCarthy talking

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Speaker 1: about Greenfield. It's The Mark Madden Show one O, five

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Speaker 1: to nine, The X