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Speaker 1: The list goes on and on, and then at Ottawa

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Speaker 1: in the shootout, Ben Kindall was money, eighteen year old

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Speaker 1: Sid got hurt, left the game, and if he's on

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Speaker 1: the Pengas had the better of the play They were

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Speaker 1: worthy winners. Carl is Godzilla, not only performing but stepping

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Speaker 1: up in a leadership role. Skinner in Gold he held

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Speaker 1: Rax not the Stripper, Chinnacuff and Kindle in the shootout

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh say something about getting fired up. But the Islanders

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Speaker 1: and it gets even worse. Philadelphia won. The Flyers are

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Speaker 1: on paternity leave. This kindle kid is going to be

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Speaker 1: a seventy point guy at his peak in the NHL, probably,

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Speaker 1: but he's gonna produce big moment after big moment, and

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Speaker 1: last night was one of those.

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Speaker 2: And Carlson, Wow, oh, Eric Eric Eric Eric Eric Eric.

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Speaker 1: Carlson, and I'd still call Morrishoff up. But I'm glad

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Speaker 1: Skinner was in goal last night. He was dynamite. Maybe

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Speaker 1: two among Skinner and Shiloffs. If you're not gonna call

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Speaker 1: I am fired up after last night's win. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what's up with Sid. It was like a nothing

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Speaker 1: kind of play. I wonder if he's still nursing something

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Speaker 1: from the Olympics. And now Dallas visits tomorrow. Yikes, they're

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Speaker 1: very good, a legit Cup contender. You gotta figure something out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Kindle again, Wow, Kindle. Ben Kindle was great all game,

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Speaker 1: not just scoring in the shootout. Ben kindall plays winning hockey.

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Speaker 1: He's picking up the slack with no Sid and no

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Speaker 1: and he's barely legally He's eighteen years old. It's quite amazing.

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Speaker 1: The Penguins lost another goaltender interference challenge, of course they did,

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Speaker 1: Muse made it out of the justifiable frustration he'd been feeling.

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Speaker 1: But the Penguins one. That's two shootout wins in a row.

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Speaker 1: Who'd have thought? It was a great night. And I

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Speaker 1: and Pierre Maguire, Pierre LaRue, all the Pierre's Duper bugsy

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Speaker 1: the Penguins won a second shootout in a row. I

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Speaker 1: keep saying it because I can't believe it. It's a

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Speaker 1: festivus miracle. And then you got the Buccos Lodi Da.

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Speaker 1: It's only one game, no biggie, and you did hit

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Speaker 1: While with two Hommers and a Herne with one, the

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Speaker 1: new guys coming through, the Pirates need that power. If

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Speaker 1: you'd have told me they're gonna score seven runs with

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Speaker 1: Skiens pitching, un to mark that down as an automatic win.

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Speaker 1: Here's a hidden area of suck. The Mets walk nine times.

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Speaker 1: The Pirates didn't draw a single walk. That is not

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Speaker 1: saw it yesterday and it's gonna continue. And that reality

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Speaker 1: is their defense is gonna stink. It's stunk yesterday and

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Speaker 1: and I'll talk about that at length in a bit,

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Speaker 1: Cruise is is a bump. Noah Hayles heard a good

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Speaker 1: and rightly, Skins can't struggle. If he struggles, they lose.

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Speaker 1: keep Cruise from fing up, strike guys out, then crews

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Speaker 2: So I want your thoughts on any are all of this.

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Speaker 2: You can follow me on Twitter at Mark madden X. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm buzzing about that Penguins win. I

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Speaker 1: Have beat the Islanders, so the Islanders didn't get points,

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Speaker 2: Ever beat.

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Speaker 1: Curistasy, if Sid plays Curtesity, if Malkin's back curates to

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna call it morishof Just just a whole

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Speaker 1: lot going on in Pittsburgh sports, And we got a

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Speaker 1: little under four hours to kill. So let's do that.

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Speaker 1: didn't prove a point. It just lost the game. And Cyonari,

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Speaker 1: you're out of march madness. You gotta fire that coach.

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Speaker 1: Probably won't, but you gotta fire that coach. How about

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Speaker 1: Holt is hitting home runs.

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Speaker 1: just around the corner. We're gonna talk more Penguins, more Pirates,

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Speaker 1: penguin calls more than Bucca calls. The penguins of the story.

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Speaker 1: The penguins are in the battle. The Pirates have played

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Speaker 1: just one of one hundred and sixty two, although Skens

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Speaker 1: he lost the game. If Cruise doesn't f up that

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Speaker 1: first inning, the Pirates probably at least maybe win. If

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Speaker 1: escaped that inning no worse than tie to two, and

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Speaker 1: Skien stays in the game. I think Donnie Kelly pulled

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Speaker 1: And I know that that Skeens is gonna pitch great.

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Speaker 1: He's the best pitcher in baseball. But yesterday's game was

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Speaker 1: certainly an oddity. Probably the best way to put it.

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Speaker 1: John Hayman, the baseball writer, He said, the New York Yankee,

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Speaker 1: of course they did. The Yankees offered four very top prospects. Well,

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Speaker 1: with Garrett cole Skins after this year has two more

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Speaker 1: he could leave via free agency would be twenty thirty,

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Speaker 1: and the Pirates aren't gonna pay Skiens, not even through

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Speaker 1: his arbitration. There's a much better chance Skeens gets traded

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Speaker 2: Good day? I said, good day, Hey Mark.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to get your take on Ben Candle. The

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I talked about that a bit in the show's open.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever going to be a hundred

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Speaker 1: just like last night. Although it's funny Kendall said after

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Speaker 1: But he is two for two now in that phase

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what a game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, up next, going to talk more hockey with Staggy,

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Speaker 1: Ah Steigy what five ninety x Mercy Hirst dropped Division

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Speaker 1: one hockey. That's the only Division one program they dropped.

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Speaker 1: I'm sad to hear that.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now to talk Penguins hockey after that inspirational

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Speaker 1: voice of hockey and Pittsburgh. Always terrific to talk to

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Speaker 1: Paul stagger While Stagy Penguins with a big win last night,

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Speaker 1: I'm still not sure this team makes the playoffs, but

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Speaker 1: you can't question it's heard.

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Speaker 3: Well. I totally agree with that. I was thinking to

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Speaker 3: that I thought were really really great Penguin teams that

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Speaker 3: didn't achieve greatness, but they provided you with a lot

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Speaker 3: of it. Like used through the word inspiration. They they

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Speaker 3: kind of you proud to be a hockey fan and

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Speaker 3: to be a Penguins fan, because they played the game,

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Speaker 3: you know, with as much zeal and desire and determination

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Speaker 3: how I kind of see this team. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how far they can go. I don't know what this

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Speaker 3: ceiling is. I mean, none of us thinks they're going

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Speaker 3: to win the Stanley Cup, but at the same time,

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Speaker 3: this is one of the really admirable teams in the

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Speaker 1: Skinner wasn't great in goal, but was very good, and

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Speaker 1: How the Penguins won two straight shootouts after being so

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Speaker 3: So why wouldn't you try to work on it, especially

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Speaker 1: You know, if they were even like like if they

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Speaker 1: Now, Thank god for Ben Kendall got the shootout winner

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Speaker 3: I totally agree with you, Mark. We've seen all these

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Speaker 1: We're talking about Steigerwald here on the Mark Madden Show.

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Speaker 1: Staggy Sid left the game last night. I hope he's

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Speaker 1: And I give Carlson credit because I think he's kind

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Speaker 3: Worth playing on you. It's worth playing on your radio show.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was something I just don't see players

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Speaker 3: It's all come together for Eric Carlson. He's a leader

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Speaker 3: last night was a perfect example of what they're capable

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Speaker 3: of doing.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Dallas is in town tomorrow. They're probably a top

433
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Speaker 1: three team in the league. Uh, you don't want to

434
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Speaker 1: lose that one. But but it's weird Staggy the Islanders

435
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: on Monday. That's a bigger game. I don't want to

436
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Speaker 1: look past. But you know what I mean.

437
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Speaker 3: I totally know what can be. I mean, all the

438
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 3: points are just as precious as others. But obviously that

439
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Speaker 3: head to head matchup with the Islanders is even the

440
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Speaker 3: biggest snaggie.

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Speaker 1: If you're told me right now that I could I

442
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Speaker 1: could lose to Dallas, but no, I'm beating the Islanders.

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Speaker 2: I'd take that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it probab A lot of people would

445
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: because it's a four point game. It's a it's a

446
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 3: big swing, and you know, I prefer that they win

447
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: both games, but yeah, exactly what you're saying. And then

448
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: they got the Detroit Red Wings the next day. We're

449
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: also fighting for their lives. So it's a tough schedule

450
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Speaker 3: coming up for the Penguins the rest of the year.

451
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Speaker 3: No matter what I think of this, every time the

452
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Speaker 3: Penguins win, you as the biggest win of the year,

453
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Speaker 3: you know, And every time they're getting ready to play

454
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Speaker 3: a game, this is the biggest game.

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Speaker 4: Of the year.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like every game the rest of the

457
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Speaker 3: year is the biggest game of the year. But that

458
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Speaker 3: Islander game takes on special meaning because it is ahead

459
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Speaker 3: to head match up with a team you're actually battling

460
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Speaker 3: for a playoff spot, and it's not It's interesting Mark

461
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 3: too that the wild cards positions have kind of come

462
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Speaker 3: into play here.

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't they would because because I.

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Speaker 1: Thought the Atlantic teams came back to the pack, didn't

466
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Speaker 1: they They.

467
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Speaker 3: Did, And now you got the Islander sitting in a

468
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Speaker 3: wildcard that could be the Penguins at the end, you know,

469
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Speaker 3: at the end of the day. So I you know,

470
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Speaker 3: now it kind of opens it up for more opportunity.

471
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Speaker 3: There are more teams in the hunt, but nothing has

472
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Speaker 3: changed in terms of the Metropol Division. That's still the

473
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Speaker 3: place you want to be. But you could end up

474
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Speaker 3: slipping down into the wild card and I'll take that

475
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Speaker 3: at this point. Anything that gets him into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the best chance to win a series is

477
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Speaker 1: to finish second or third in the metro That said,

478
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Speaker 1: you could easily wind up facing the Islanders, who are

479
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Speaker 1: your bogie team. By the way, Staggy, I'm not too

480
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: worried about the Detroit game. I hope I'm not jinxing

481
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: it because this is a guy I root for except

482
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Speaker 1: when he plays the Penguins. But they got Johnny Whitehall

483
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Speaker 1: in Gold, the Red Wings, John Gibson and the local kid,

484
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Speaker 1: and he never plays good here, so that that could

485
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Speaker 1: work in the penguins favor when they played the Detroits

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: But what about the Islanders.

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Speaker 1: How good are they with sarrokn and goal and that

489
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Speaker 1: great rookie on defense, Shaffer.

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Speaker 2: I got to be blunt.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have a lot, but those two

492
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Speaker 1: were just dynamite.

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Speaker 3: I think Shaf is incredible. I mean I think everybody

494
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Speaker 3: thinks that. Well. I think the most incredible about him

495
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Speaker 3: is I mean, I knew he was the first pick overall,

496
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Speaker 3: and everybody wanted him to be the first pick overall.

497
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Speaker 3: And you know, I remember when Eric Johnson was the

498
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Speaker 3: first picked overall and he turned out to be a

499
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: nice player. But he is a Matthew Shaffer, so you know,

500
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Speaker 3: when he's defensively and go first overall, you don't really

501
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: know that they're gonna be that good. I mean, I

502
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: think he has to be a bit of a surprise.

503
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 3: He played for the Eerie Otters last year. They came

504
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: to the town and they actually practiced in Cranberry one day,

505
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: and I remember people saying, you know, I've got kid

506
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: out there is for the Otters. He's going to be

507
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Speaker 3: the first pick overall. And I looked at him for

508
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Speaker 3: a second. I wish I would have stayed longer and

509
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 3: watched more of their practice, but it wasn't like I went,

510
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: oh my goodness here or anything like that. I don't

511
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Speaker 3: know if I spent enough time watching him, but I

512
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: think he was under sold as a player. Yeah, yeah,

513
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Speaker 3: he's he looks like a Hall of Famer already. You know,

514
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Speaker 3: he's eighteen years old. He is the youngest player in

515
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Speaker 3: the NHL, by the way, not Ben Kendall. He's the

516
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 3: youngest guy in the league right now, and he is spectacular.

517
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Speaker 1: You know what's scary about him. You know, we've seen

518
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Speaker 1: Quinn Ues and Kill mccarr in the very elite defensemen

519
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Speaker 1: in this league. And Shafer is clearly better at eighteen

520
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: than those two are at eighteen. I mean clearly better

521
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Speaker 1: and maybe better defensively right now than they are right now.

522
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's got a swagger to him too.

523
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Speaker 2: He's like a leader already.

524
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Speaker 3: You know what makes those other guys you mentioned stand

525
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 3: out is their incredible skating ability, right and Shafer skates

526
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: like they like he's he flies, He's like he's one

527
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 3: of those guys that looks like he's touring up the ice.

528
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Speaker 3: And then he has this other quality of being able

529
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Speaker 3: to deliver big moments, and he's got kind of he's

530
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: kind of brash, Like there's nothing not to like about

531
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Speaker 3: that kid. He just looks like a solid citizen and

532
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: you know he's going to be a force to be

533
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Speaker 3: reckoned with. And you see what he's done for that franchise,

534
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Speaker 3: Like I don't know where the Islanders were going without

535
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Speaker 3: getting him. They got really lucky to get that pick

536
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Speaker 3: in the lottery and it's going to really change the

537
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: fortunes of their franchise. You don't usually say that about

538
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Speaker 3: a defenseman, but he's definitely that.

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Speaker 2: Guy, Staggy. What do you think their chances are? Do

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Speaker 2: they make it? I've been saying.

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Speaker 1: Fifty to fifty all after they won last night, I

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Speaker 1: went to sixty forty in favor of but then I

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Speaker 1: thought what if sid Zat I went right back to

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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's on a razor's edge.

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Speaker 3: I agree, And you know, while we were talking, Mark,

547
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: I looked at the schedule. I wanted to make sure

548
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Speaker 3: what was up on Monday night and to see if

549
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Speaker 3: the Red Wings were also playing the night the Penguins

550
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: are playing the Islanders, and they're not. So when the

551
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: Penguins played Detroit on Tuesday, that will be the second

552
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: of back to backs for Pittsburgh but not for Detroit.

553
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: So that's where the schedule maker gets you a little bit.

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00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: That game on the Island is really really big.

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Speaker 2: Staggy is always great stuff. We'll see it tomorrow at

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Speaker 2: the rink.

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00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: Alrighty see, you take care of Mark.

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Speaker 2: That's stigy. Good penguins talk.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk some penguins with Tim Ben's next hour

560
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: and also some bucos O'Neal cruise. I go to big

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Speaker 1: O'Neal cruise sililoquy at the top of the arm. Let

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Speaker 1: me ask you get some calls in what should they

563
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Speaker 1: do with O'Neal cruise?

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Speaker 2: Seriously, it's a simple question.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give you options because I'm not sure

566
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Speaker 1: there are any, or maybe there's just a ton of them.

567
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I mean, do you move them to third,

568
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: you move them back to shortstop? Do you trade them?

569
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Speaker 1: Do you push them down a flight of steps? Do

570
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Speaker 1: you bench them? Do you platoon them? At dh What

571
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Speaker 1: do you do with O'Neill Kruz eight three, three, four

572
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Speaker 1: one two WXDX No Tommy radio, But no problem. We

573
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Speaker 1: still got a trifecta. Let's go with the top three

574
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Speaker 1: Penguins from last night at Ottawa. Number three Carlson, goal,

575
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Speaker 1: assist and dominance. Number two Raquel with a couple goals.

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Speaker 1: Number one Skinner and goal. I've been very critical of

577
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: the Penguins goaltending, and I'd still call it morishot but

578
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: Skinner made twenty six saves and big saves and enough

579
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Speaker 1: saves and that last part that's what matters, making enough saves.

580
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Speaker 1: So credit where it's due to Stuart Skinner. And I

581
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Speaker 1: didn't include Kendall, who was amazing shootout winner, got an

582
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Speaker 1: apple on Carlson's goal instead a screen on that goal.

583
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Speaker 1: But it's the trifecta, not the quadrifecta or whatever superfecta

584
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Speaker 1: I guess. First hour of the show brought to us

585
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Speaker 1: daily by Shandroovit Sandrovic and Fishman.

586
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: We love them. The Trifecta brought to us by Danny's.

587
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: Patron Hoges Family owned and operated since nineteen sixty.

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00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: That's Danny's on Root eighty eight and Bethel Park. We

589
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: got a lot of baseball talk going today. Let's go

590
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Speaker 2: to our baseball guy.

591
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: He's going to be joining us on a regular basis

592
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Speaker 1: in the very near future. It's Dave Smith, Smitty, what's

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Speaker 1: going on, Mark.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what about mister Kruz. Just you know,

595
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 4: there's bad defense and then there's a head full of oatmeal.

596
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of players in baseball that

597
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 4: are crappy in the field. But like when you start

598
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: to couple bad in the field with like a little

599
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 4: bit clueless in the head as he showed yesterday, I

600
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 4: think you're really interest having got to have some trouble.

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Speaker 4: And like we said last year, you know where he belongs.

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Speaker 4: He belongs to Dhing and Anaheim. I just think, like,

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Speaker 4: you know what, I don't know what they were thinking

604
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Speaker 4: signing Azuna and not going into the season thinking.

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Speaker 2: Oh, no, Cruise ought to be the DH. Well, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I think I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get it, Smitty because they needed a right handed

608
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Speaker 1: power bat that I understand, But their mistake was thinking

609
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: Cruise could play anywhere in the field, not just getting.

610
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Speaker 2: Rid of him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's two reasons that Jays won the American

612
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 4: League pennant last year. One of them was a heavy

613
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 4: dose of bat on ball contact throughout the lineup instead

614
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 4: of home run hitting. But the other one was outfield defense.

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00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 4: I mean, when you put guys like Springer and Varshow

616
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Speaker 4: and Lucas all together like that, that made a huge

617
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Speaker 4: difference on that team to win the Al East and

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Speaker 4: to win the American League. And I think you've got

619
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Speaker 4: to sit there and think about the pirates with these pictures,

620
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 4: because I looked at Skien Space yesterday thinking, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: he deserved better than that behind him. You gotta have,

622
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 4: you got to have some studs behind you with gloves,

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Speaker 4: and I really think they really take it. Need to

624
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 4: take a better look at that right now because Cruise

625
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: is not going to be the man at center field.

626
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Speaker 4: He's not gonna hit thirty home runs. He might hit

627
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 4: twenty two, twenty five, but his strikeout numbers haven't come down,

628
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 4: his walk numbers haven't gone up.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

630
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Speaker 4: It's it's time for them to make a I wish

631
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Speaker 4: I wish we could have had Connor Griffin up here

632
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Speaker 4: right away, because we could have talked about him today.

633
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 4: Maybe the way they're talking about JJ Weatherholt chased the lotter,

634
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Speaker 4: Kevin McGonagall, Carson Benz, what about Weather.

635
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Speaker 1: Weather Holt got drafted the same draft as Griffin. Weather

636
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: holds in the majors hitting home runs Griffin's and Triple A.

637
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Speaker 2: I know Weather holds a couple of years older.

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Speaker 4: But still, yeah, I mean, I mean Kevin McGonagall for

639
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 4: the Tigers, he never played in Triple A. He never

640
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: had an bat in triple A and he's banging the

641
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 4: ball yesterday because he came up with the team. Carson

642
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 4: Bench from the Mets. Who gotta who was looking good

643
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 4: yesterday against the Pirates. He only hit one seventy eight

644
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Speaker 4: in triple A. He was barely in triple A himself.

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Speaker 4: It was time to bring They should have brought Griffin

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Speaker 4: up with him and brought him along easy with the

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Speaker 4: big league club instead of leaving him down like that. Really,

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Speaker 4: but they have they have a potential, they go bring

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Speaker 4: him up, put him in center field. Like many people

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Speaker 4: are pronosticating who knows, who knows.

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Speaker 2: But they they're so in love with Cruise's potential.

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Speaker 1: They should use that potential to pawn him off on

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Speaker 1: somebody who could be fooled in similar fascist Smithy, I

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Speaker 1: gotta go to a break. We'll talk again real soon.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Mark, Take care man.

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Speaker 1: That's Dave Smith, our baseball guy. A bunch of O'Neal

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Speaker 1: Cruise talk up next. A lot of Penguin talk too,

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Speaker 1: if you want to dial eight three three four one

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Speaker 1: two wsd X. We got Bill and the car going

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Speaker 1: to talk O'Neal Cruz and I got along. Die tried

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Speaker 1: about O'Neal cruise just around the corner, and it absolutely

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Speaker 1: needs to be set.

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Speaker 2: What five nine yet