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Speaker 1: We'll have some reaction from Miami. Ratt Lauder started and

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Speaker 1: this this JT. You're on ESPN fifteen thirty. J T,

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Speaker 4: No, And you encourage listeners to call you who think

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Speaker 4: All right, man, Well, no matter what the other listeners

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Speaker 1: That's very kind of you to say. JT like that's

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Speaker 1: play he's got to make. It kind of felt like

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Speaker 1: he was indecisive with the guy on third base, But

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Speaker 1: on a daily basis, you are. And he's gonna have

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Speaker 1: games where he gets hits, like I get it. The

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Speaker 1: first time he has a three hit game, I'll look

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Speaker 1: at my mentions and it's gonna be all the key.

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Speaker 1: Brian Hayes fan boys Moving forward beyond this year, though,

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Speaker 1: can you really build teams around a guy who plays

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Speaker 1: a corner infield position who is a below average big

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Speaker 1: league hitter? It's fair question, man, And like, what level

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Speaker 1: of offense do you go? Cool, We're good, leave him alone.

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Speaker 1: How good does the defense have to be where you

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Speaker 1: totally ignore what he does offensively? And is that defense

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Speaker 1: so good that it it justifies putting a guy in

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Speaker 1: the lineup four to five plate appearances a night, maybe

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Speaker 1: not five, because he does hit ninth where you're getting

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Speaker 1: next to nothing when his position is third base. I

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Speaker 1: think it's an interesting discussion, and that's why I have

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Speaker 1: pushing to sign the global superstar makes sense, Cincinnati believes

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Speaker 1: the club is the destination for global names and US

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Speaker 1: Weston McKenny and forward Josh Sergeant. Club believes its financial

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Speaker 1: power and new facilities would be attractive to a star

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Speaker 1: like neymar Worth. Paying attention to the Orange and Blue

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Speaker 1: back at it on Saturday, a day game against Toronto. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: the Masters underway round wanted Augusta Sam Burns and Rory

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Speaker 1: McElroy atop the leaderboard at five under. Rory has played

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Speaker 1: seventeen Sam's in the clubhouse. There is a whole slew

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Speaker 1: of golfers who are two back at three under great

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Speaker 1: segment yesterday with our guy Will Grimmer, the official golf

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Speaker 1: expert of our show, previewing the Masters, offering some wagers

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Speaker 1: and you could listen to that on the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 1: Pivotal Game as they all are right now. For the

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Speaker 1: Columbus Blue Jackets, they skate on the road tonight against Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: The Jackets are two games behind Ottawa in the hunt

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Speaker 1: for the last wildcard spot in the Eastern Conference. There

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Speaker 1: are your sports headlines twenty away from four o'clock. I

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Speaker 1: thought I had one other thing. Ooh, I have to

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Speaker 1: add this before we take more phone calls, before we

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Speaker 1: talk more about you, Brian Hayes. Tomorrow, we have our

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Speaker 1: show at three o'clock, but if you are out and

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Speaker 1: about in the Kenwood area tomorrow between noon and two,

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Speaker 1: I will be at the Rally House store on Montgomery Road,

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Speaker 1: post it up for two hours. We have some giveaways,

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Speaker 1: including some Rally House gift cards. Right off I seventy one.

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Speaker 1: It's like right across the street from the radio station.

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Speaker 1: You can come to Rally House and we'll go outside

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Speaker 1: and we'll wave to Tony and Austin and then we'll

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Speaker 1: go back inside Rally House. You could buy some Red's

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Speaker 1: gear and we'll hang out. But we've got some gift

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Speaker 1: cards to give away on top of some other stuff

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Speaker 1: as well. So we hope to see there from noon

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Speaker 1: to two tomorrow. Eddie and Green Township, you're on ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty. Eddie, what's up?

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Speaker 5: Not a whole lot? It was just another stink year

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Speaker 5: of a.

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Speaker 1: Game today today.

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Speaker 5: It was it kind of had high hopes when they

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Speaker 5: won the first two games and the way they came

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Speaker 5: back and won that second game, which they had no

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Speaker 5: business winning. I thought, okay, there's the chance to really

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Speaker 5: maybe take three out of four. That would have been nice.

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Speaker 5: But like you said, when your offense is as bad

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Speaker 5: as it's been so far, it's kind of tough to win.

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Speaker 5: And I was one of those people who was saying

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Speaker 5: that to some of my friends. They were like, oh,

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Speaker 5: chill out the roads, just the touches, Rangers, A're gonna

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Speaker 5: be fine. I'm like, okay, but you can't make a

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Speaker 5: habit of scoring two runs or three runs that's it

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Speaker 5: in a whole game and expect to win every night.

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Speaker 5: The pitching cannot sustain the bad offense all year long.

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Speaker 5: And we've seen it in Back to Back to the

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Speaker 5: Night Now where the pitching just is not gonna go

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Speaker 5: to hold the other team down every game. The offense

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Speaker 5: is gonna eventually have to start to hit and currently

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Speaker 5: for wrong though, our offense was pretty bad last year,

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Speaker 5: is that right? Uh?

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Speaker 1: It wasn't great now like they were like with fourteen,

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Speaker 1: fifteenth and runs per game, but yeah, I mean they

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Speaker 1: had at times. They had a very frustrating offense last

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Speaker 1: year without a lot of pop and that you know, frankly,

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Speaker 1: had the offense been a little bit better, they win

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Speaker 1: more than eighty three games and make the playoffs with

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Speaker 1: a lot more eas than they did.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they scored a lot of games. Last year.

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Speaker 5: They scored I.

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Speaker 6: Think zero runs or one run or.

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Speaker 5: Less than two runs or whatever it was. But I'm

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Speaker 5: told the offense is sis be better this year. Right,

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Speaker 5: we move out and signed forrez Matt McLean is two

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Speaker 5: years and moved from a shoulder surgery. He had a

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Speaker 5: heck of a spring training, you know, he signed forrez

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Speaker 5: Ellie's playing on two good quads. Now, such a fear

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Speaker 5: shoulders not heard. But yeah, here we are. We have

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Speaker 5: South Swerd for a full season. It's like the offense

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Speaker 5: is still the same. It seems like I know it's

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Speaker 5: only thirteen games then, and you know, but I don't

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Speaker 5: want them to wait too long. I think they need

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Speaker 5: to have a short lease of some of these guys

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Speaker 5: that the hitting continues to do as bad for the

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Speaker 5: next week or so or two. I think you have

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Speaker 5: to entertain the idea of shifting things around, whether that

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Speaker 5: be calling out resigns or J J. Boudet. I don't

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Speaker 5: understand the whole I don't unerstand why Marte and Benson

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Speaker 5: are both on the roster right now, when when when

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Speaker 5: they both only hit right handed pitching no idea. I

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Speaker 5: don't get that idea should at least entertaining the idea

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Speaker 5: of sitting one down, if not both, Marty, probably because

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Speaker 5: he's not You're not getting any shavers by leaving up here.

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Speaker 5: He's not playing every day. You don't know what he is.

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Speaker 5: He's not developing playing once or twice a week, sitting

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Speaker 5: down there. Let him play every day, see what he can,

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Speaker 5: see what he is if he can't, if he can hit,

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Speaker 5: and bring up somebody who's hitting down there, like ree

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Speaker 5: Times or Bludet. I'm still not a fan of I

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Speaker 5: know you're trying to hear his name, but I Brian

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Speaker 5: Hay did not be playing every day. No, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: The trade did not make sense. They made it. It

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Speaker 5: still doesn't make sense. You can't have a number nine

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Speaker 5: hitter who's basically like the pitcher spot. You know, it's

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Speaker 5: just an automatic I'm sorry, as.

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Speaker 1: A third baseman, like that's it. Like there are there

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Speaker 1: are guys who played positions where you go, you know what,

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Speaker 1: play great defense and whatever you give me offensively, I'll

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Speaker 1: take I don't know that that works at third base.

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Speaker 1: I just he doesn't handle the ball enough to me

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Speaker 1: for that to work at third base. And like they

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Speaker 1: have other offensive issues and you just rolled through some

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Speaker 1: of them. I don't want to give up on neelve Marte.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty four years old, but it's interesting he doesn't

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Speaker 1: play every day. They sent down Hines telling him, hey,

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Speaker 1: we don't want you sitting on the bench, we want

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Speaker 1: you to develop. Okay, Why doesn't the same thing apply

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Speaker 1: to neelve Marte, especially when you've got him working at

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Speaker 1: a position where he doesn't have a lot of experience.

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Speaker 1: He's not hitting here, He's at a position where he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of experience. Why is having him

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Speaker 1: on the bench on a semi regular basis cool? But

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Speaker 1: not so much with Reez Hines. I wonder how long

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Speaker 1: they're going to keep doing that. And like we know

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Speaker 1: Key Brian Hayes isn't a good offensive player. But like

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Speaker 1: some will say, well that's fine, the other guys are

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Speaker 1: gonna hit, and by and large, I'll agree with that

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Speaker 1: with some. I'll give Matt McClain some rope. It's a

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Speaker 1: little bit too early to look at the raw numbers

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Speaker 1: and say he's having a bad year and one of

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Speaker 1: the two biggest hits of the season the other night

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Speaker 1: in the game against Miami. But are we sure that

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Speaker 1: Will Benson's gonna be better than he's been? Are we

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Speaker 1: sure that Tyler Stevenson's gonna be better than he was

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Speaker 1: last year? So far he's been worse. Are we really

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Speaker 1: sure that TJ. Friedel is going to get back to

620
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Speaker 1: his production from early last season when he was bad,

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Speaker 1: downright bad the last ninety so games of the season

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Speaker 1: last year. Like, there's a lot of guys who I

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Speaker 1: still feel like their ceilings are low and their floors

624
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Speaker 1: are lower. And it's frustrating because what it makes a

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Speaker 1: lot of us go back to is this offseason, when

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Speaker 1: it felt like they were still one move away, they

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Speaker 1: still needed to make one more move, and at least

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Speaker 1: on the offensive side of things, they didn't. And maybe

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Speaker 1: that's coming back to bite him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. I mean, he want to keep keithro and

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Speaker 5: Hayes on the team, that's fine, but he should only

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Speaker 5: be playing giving a guy day off, coming in for

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Speaker 5: defensive purposes and late in the game. I'd rather have

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Speaker 5: the guy playing just regular average defect at third base

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Speaker 5: and give me a better bat in the lineup, whether

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Speaker 5: that's Flora's dating South Stewart playing third base or specer

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Speaker 5: strip third base, take your pick. The other guy could

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Speaker 5: hut play first base and just put some more offense

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Speaker 5: in the lineup. Like you said, Key Ron Hayes is

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Speaker 5: not given you a new offense, and you can't afford

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Speaker 5: that right now when the rest of the team is

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Speaker 5: having hard time hitting as well. You can't do that.

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Speaker 7: The one thing, if the other guys.

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Speaker 5: Were hitting, you know, better than they should be, then

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Speaker 5: he could you could, you know, you could afford his

646
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 5: defense and not as bad. But right now they can't

647
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Speaker 5: afford to have another you know guy hitting hitting bullet

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Speaker 5: the nose the line and then it was hitting bullet

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Speaker 5: of the Key Rod Hayes line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, on a on a on a on a better team,

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00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: you could do it on a on a better offensive team.

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Speaker 1: I should say you could get away with it because

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Speaker 1: part of the logic was, look, stick him at third base,

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Speaker 1: don't worry about what he hits because everybody else will

655
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Speaker 1: do a little bit more. Who who's gonna do a

656
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Speaker 1: little bit more? And so to me, the discussion about

657
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: him has as much to do with beyond this season

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Speaker 1: than this season, because you could say, well, hey, they

659
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: need more from Tyler Stevenson cool. Tyler Stevenson might not

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Speaker 1: be on the team next year. You could say, you

661
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: know what, they need more from TJ. Friedel Cool. They

662
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: can replace TJ. Friedel more easily than they can replace

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Speaker 1: Key Brian Hayes. Because I'm not convinced that if you

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Speaker 1: want to move on from him, that they're just going

665
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Speaker 1: to eat his salary and tell him to go away,

666
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Speaker 1: like this is a thing for the rest of the

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Speaker 1: decade that you have signed up for. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: we're picking on the guy we are not. He doesn't hit,

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Speaker 1: he's not a quality big league hitter. And so in

670
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Speaker 1: the short term, how much do you put up with

671
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Speaker 1: what he doesn't do offensively for the sake of having

672
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Speaker 1: a great glove at a place where the ball is

673
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Speaker 1: not hitting his direction nearly as much? And long term,

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Speaker 1: can you build eighteen that's better around Key Brian Hayes

675
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Speaker 1: that allows you to justify playing a guy at a

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Speaker 1: corner infield position that doesn't bring a lot to the

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Speaker 1: table offensively.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, we're on the same page. No, Like I said,

679
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Speaker 5: you only get production on a two guys right now

680
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 5: pretty much that you trust right now in the lineup,

681
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Speaker 5: and that would probably be South Stewart and maybe eladlor Cruze.

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Speaker 1: I was actually sting.

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Speaker 5: They have guys that are hitting two down triple A.

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Speaker 5: They have three times Blake done, jaj B your tick,

685
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Speaker 5: bring somebody else up, change something up a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I just don't want to see the team, you know,

687
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 5: continue to do this for a week, or see the pitching.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. It's a hold up all year long

689
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 5: with Nickelodolau and one hundred readout, I just don't know

690
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 5: if the pitching can hold up all all. He's a long.

691
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 5: This team has to eventually start scoring, like at least

692
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 5: five runs a game at least minimum. Just try to

693
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Speaker 5: win the game. Two runs through the game is not

694
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 5: gonna do it. In a base train, I run around

695
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Speaker 5: third base and lessen to one more time. I'm just

696
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Speaker 5: gonna bring I'm just gonna I'm gonna lose my I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna lose my cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're frustrated to see we're painfully on the same page.

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Speaker 1: Any nice to hear from you as.

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Speaker 5: Always, Thanks had a good day.

701
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Speaker 1: You know, I, I know, I know how this works.

702
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: Every time a ball is hit to third base and

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00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: keep Ryan makes a nice playing again, Like, I cannot

704
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: emphasize this enough. He is awesome with the glove. Your

705
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: eyes tell you that, metrics tell you that. Some will

706
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Speaker 1: say he's the best defensive player in the sport. There's

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Speaker 1: validity to that, Like that is that as cool as hell?

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Speaker 1: And maybe I'm looking at this through a very I

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Speaker 1: don't know, antiquated set of of of eyes here. But

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Speaker 1: when I think good field, no hit, I just don't

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Speaker 1: think third base. When I think good field, no hit,

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Speaker 1: I think of a team that has other dudes who

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Speaker 1: are capable of kind of overcoming what you're not getting

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Speaker 1: offensively in this one spot. I will acknowledge this as

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00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: it was brought up before. He is making contact, he's

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Speaker 1: putting the ball in play. He has actually hit the

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Speaker 1: ball a little bit harder on average this season than

718
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: he has but like, all right, so this what his

719
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: basic numbers look like is maybe not completely indicative of

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00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 1: how he has swung the bat one thousand percent fair.

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Speaker 1: But he's a low ceiling offensive guy and like he's

722
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Speaker 1: hitting the ball well and not getting on base. He's

723
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Speaker 1: hitting the ball better, and he's not doing What's going

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Speaker 1: to happen when he starts not hitting the ball well,

725
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Speaker 1: when he starts struggling the way he has for the

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Speaker 1: majority of his big league careers. It's tough. It's tough,

727
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,479
Speaker 1: and nobody is making their offensive issues about this one guy.

728
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: But when you start with the team's offensive issues, you

729
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: kind of look at the player who's performing the poorest

730
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: and unfortunately cute for key Brian Hayes, that's that's him.

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Speaker 1: Turn away from five o'clock. What word comes to mind

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00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: when you think of the Bengals defense in twenty twenty one?

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Speaker 1: Think about that. I'll tell you what word comes to

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Speaker 1: mind for me, and we'll apply that to the draft

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Speaker 1: coming up at four oh five. More of your phone

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Speaker 1: much for listening. Today. We've got the Reds losing to

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Speaker 1: the Marlins eight one the final score. We have speculation

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Speaker 1: that maybe Gisel James is gonna end up Exavier that

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Speaker 1: as well. By the way, twenty four hours from right now,

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Speaker 1: my guy Taron Bland just informed me that we're gonna

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Speaker 1: chat with one of my favorite draft analysts, Mike Renner,

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Speaker 1: who for years was with Pro Football Focus, and then

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Speaker 1: a lot of those folks at Pro Football Focus, that

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Speaker 1: through a lot of changes. Mike left well before then.

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Speaker 1: He has been kind enough to join our show for years.

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Speaker 1: And I don't believe Mike lives in Cincinnati anymore, but

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Speaker 1: our on air relationships started when I ran into him

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Speaker 1: at the Holy Grail one opening day and I just

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Speaker 1: started peppering him with draft questions and It's like, why

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Speaker 1: don't we do this for everybody else? So we're having

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Speaker 1: him on tomorrow at four oh five, and I'm stoked

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Speaker 1: for that. We get a lot of really good We

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Speaker 1: have a good draft guest on Monday, Ryan Roberts Dane

777
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Speaker 1: Brugler next week from The Athletic. His annual evaluation guide,

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Speaker 1: six hundred pages, The Beast is out. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to chatting with Dane, and by the way, our Draft show,

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Speaker 1: which airs down the Hall that stars Lance Rocky, Me,

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Speaker 1: Tony Austin and Chick two weeks from ten night at

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Speaker 1: Dickman's and fort right six to midnight, the favorite broadcast,

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Speaker 1: my favorite broadcast, I should say on our calendar. I'm

784
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Speaker 1: looking forward to that, looking forward to getting answers as

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Speaker 1: to what the Bengals do at ten. Overall, I feel like,

786
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Speaker 1: and I'm saying this without really thinking about it, there

787
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: was a lot of uncertainty as to what the Bengals

788
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: were going to do last year. I feel like we're

789
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: all familiar with the main names involved here, Like we've

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00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: talked about Sonny Styles and Rubin Bain and Jermal McCoy

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Speaker 1: and you know, Jeremiah Love has been brought into the

792
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Speaker 1: conversation obviously, Caleb Love, Caleb Love, Caleb Downs, I actually

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Speaker 1: know a guy named Caleb Love, Caleb Downs, Monsieur Delaine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's been brought up. Peter Woods has been

795
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Speaker 1: kicked around in some areas of the internet. I think

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Speaker 1: we're all familiar with the names. I think we we're

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Speaker 1: all I don't want to say excited to find out

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Speaker 1: who they take. There is a level of intrigue with

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Speaker 1: regards to what happens Picks one through nine, who's there

800
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Speaker 1: and ultimately who they choose not to take. And I

801
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: think the momentum recently has been corner, and understandably so.

802
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: A they say it can never have enough. B they

803
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: don't have enough. C. The two main guys they have

804
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: at corner are going into contract years, and I think

805
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Speaker 1: d like they they have a chance to get maybe

806
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: the top cornerback according to many in this class. So

807
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: those are all really really good things. I have fixated

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00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: on Caleb Downs. I don't think he's going to be

809
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: there because it feels like the real smart money is

810
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: on him going to the Giants. But if you can't

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Speaker 1: be the guy who complains about not signing a linebacker,

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Speaker 1: and then if Sonny Styles is there, complain about them

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Speaker 1: signing or drafting a linebacker, I fixate on Caleb Downs

814
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: and are lots of different reasons for it. I've said

815
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Speaker 1: this a few different times of it the last couple

816
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Speaker 1: of months. There's lots of folks whose evaluations I seek

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00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: out and trust, and I just I love hearing them

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00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: describe what they see when they watch Caleb Downs, and

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00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: I think with him, there's a level of versatility that

820
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: this team in the short term could really benefit from.

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Speaker 1: And I think you're giving al golden as overused of

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Speaker 1: a term as this is, you're giving him a legitimate

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Speaker 1: chess piece that I'm not sure really exists on this team.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure really exists at the safety spot. Can

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Speaker 1: use them at star, could play him in the slock

826
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Speaker 1: and have a traditional safety, could use three safety looks

827
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Speaker 1: like we'll see. But there's also like, look, man, you

828
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: don't have to go far to find Ohio state coverage

829
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Speaker 1: and going back a year, like when you listen to

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Speaker 1: people who seem to have real informed opinions talk about

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Speaker 1: intangibles and football intellect and like leadership, I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: just there's so many boxes he checks, and the intelligence part,

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00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: to me matters. Danna and I talked about this on

834
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Speaker 1: Tuesday show and on his podcast yesterday. Obviously you can

835
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Speaker 1: go catch those, but the Bengals had really good defenses

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, in twenty twenty two, and I

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Speaker 1: think twenty one you might say a little bit more

838
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Speaker 1: opportunistic than stout, but good defenses. They made the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl on the strength of the defense in that playoff run.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the twenty twenty one season, when

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Speaker 1: I think of lou An Arumo, obviously he's not the

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00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: DC anymore. But when I think of those defenses, the

843
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: word that comes to mind is smart. They had good players,

844
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Speaker 1: had some terrific players, players who are no longer here

845
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: but who have left and telible mark with this franchise.

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Speaker 1: Good acquisitions, good players, good players drafted, good players acquired

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Speaker 1: via free agency. Good good players. But to me, when

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Speaker 1: you watch those defenses, you saw a group where you

849
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: rarely saw an assignment mistake. You didn't see angle issues.

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Speaker 1: You didn't see guys who looked like they didn't know

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Speaker 1: where they were supposed to be. You didn't see guys

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Speaker 1: who look like they were on a different page as

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Speaker 1: the other ten guys. And I say that because I

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Speaker 1: remember talking about those things in real time. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's when lou An Aruma was being talked about as

856
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: maybe a head coaching candidate, and I remember saying, like,

857
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: to me, the greatest statement that you can make about

858
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: what he's gotten out of this defense is it just

859
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: it looks really well coached. A lot of that was

860
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: a testament to him, But it also felt like they

861
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: had guys who just understood the system, understood their positions,

862
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: understood their jobs, understood from play to play where they

863
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: were supposed to be Sometimes in football you get beat.

864
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes the dude on the other team makes a play,

865
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: or sometimes the quarterback on the other team makes the

866
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: sort of throw that you almost can't defend. But it

867
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: felt like when you scored on the Bengals, when you

868
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: move the ball in the Bengals during those years, yeah yeah,

869
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: you didn't get You didn't outsmart them. It wasn't because

870
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: guys weren't where they were supposed to be. Wasn't because

871
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: players were just, you know, freelancing to the degree that

872
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: they should. It felt like that a really smart defense.

873
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: The Bengals could use some really smart players. I'm not

874
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: saying they're stupid people, but over the last couple of seasons,

875
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: it has often felt like with the entirety of the defense,

876
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: high football IQ has been lacking, which is maybe why

877
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: you saw some poor angles taken and some coverage issues.

878
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: I fully believe there's a lot of reasons why you

879
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: lead the league as the Bengals did too years ago

880
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: in explosive plays given up, and they led by a

881
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: wide margin. Part of that was, you know, maybe the

882
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: defense from an intellect standpoint had slipped from what it

883
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: was in twenty one and twenty two and that's where Jesse,

884
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: Bates and Von Bell come in. And it's obviously other

885
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: players in that mix too. If I can get a

886
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: versatile player who brings with him a level of football

887
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: intellect that might not necessarily be what it was with

888
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: Jesse and Vaughn in twenty one and twenty two, but

889
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: if I can, if I could add that piece to

890
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: the mix this year and then kind of build moving forward.

891
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: And by the way, I think Brian Cook checks those

892
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: boxes too. In fact, I'm pretty damn comfortable in saying

893
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: that he does. Like I don't know. Man, we talked

894
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: last hour about positional value in baseball. He Brian Hayes

895
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: plays third base. He's awesome at it. Third baseman doesn't

896
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: handle the ball as much in shortstop and second basement

897
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: and first baseman. But you obviously want a good glove there. Now,

898
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: guys got to hit, You want a good glove there.

899
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: We do this with football the time. Safety positional value.

900
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: It's why Caleb Downs might not go in the top ten.

901
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: Who knows, But like positional value, you can talk about

902
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: the value of safeties and what you're willing to pay

903
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: until suddenly you stink back there and they've I think

904
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: the Bengals have done a very good job in addressing

905
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: that position. Jordan Battle I think can play in this league.

906
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm doing cartwheels about locking him

907
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: in long term if it cost me a guy like

908
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: Caleb Downs. But like nobody has any issue with Jordan

909
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: Battle being on the team. Brian Cook is a terrific signing.

910
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: That's not me being a UC homer, Like, look at

911
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: what he did in Kansas City. He tackled dudes Gino

912
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: Stoden couldn't and Kyle Dugger is exactly the kind of

913
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: player they didn't have last year. So there are some options.

914
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: But if you could take another guy who plays that

915
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: position and I can try to recapture While it might

916
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: not be apples to apples what I had when I

917
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: had Baits and Bell at their best with Cook and

918
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: Caleb Downs for the rest of the decade, are you

919
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: kidding me? And if I could just build my defense

920
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: around the sort of guys that feel like they would

921
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: have fit in very easily in twenty twenty one, in

922
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, those are the kind of guys that

923
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: I want. Now I've done a very deep dive into

924
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler's Beast, which is a six hundred page guide,

925
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: and part of it is research for the Draft show.

926
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: Part of it is we'll start running these two and

927
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: I got to voice these draft vignettes that we do

928
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: with players that maybe there when the Bengals go in

929
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: the clock at ten, and I think the cool thing

930
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: about a lot of these guys that you read about,

931
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: like Sunny Styles also checks a lot of those boxes. Again,

932
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: it feels like the smart money is on him gored

933
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: to the Giants at number five. But the Caleb Downs

934
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: fixation for me kind of starts with He's the sort

935
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: of dude who and I hear and read and like

936
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: I watched enough Ohio State football, I'm obviously very familiar

937
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: with what he does. But when I like I read,

938
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: folks who are close to it, cover the program, been

939
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: involved in covering the draft process, really evaluate him. They

940
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: point to like some of the really smart things the

941
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: guy does. And I defer to those folks, including Dane Brugler,

942
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: And so I'm looking for smarts and wherever they go

943
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: in round one, like let's say they take Caleb Downs instantly,

944
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: it's all right, what about linebacker? Hello? And uh okay,

945
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna get another edge guy. Is there room for

946
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: a nose tackle, which I think is a sneaky interesting need?

947
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: What about the offensive line depth? Like that's that's sort

948
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: of how this works. Wherever they go in round one,

949
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna wonder, Okay, what's next round two? Where are

950
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: they going? What position can they not afford to wait

951
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 1: to address on Saturday? Is that linebacker? Is that wing tackle?

952
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 1: All very interesting? But I watched what a defense can

953
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: do when it's collectively collectively operating at a high level

954
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: from an IQ perspective, and I want more players like that,

955
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: And that's what jumps off the page when it comes

956
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: to Caleb Downs. So that's kind of the reason for

957
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 1: the fixation. If they don't take him, be open minded,

958
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: I will. You know, it's it's going to be hard

959
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: to really quarrel with the position they address, unless it's

960
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: running back. We'll see. But the Caleb Downs thing for

961
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: me is when I think of the Bengals defense the

962
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: last time the Bengals were good, I think of smart

963
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: with Caleb Downs. I think a smart seventeen. After four o'clock,

964
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: more of your phone calls are coming up five point three, seven,

965
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: four nine, fifteen thirty and eight six six seven oh

966
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: two three seven seven six Brendaman and Jones on baseball

967
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Speaker 1: is like thirty five minutes away, so be here for that.

968
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: I think it might be about baseball today. This is

969
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Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 1: But my guy Terren just said to me two minutes ago, Hey,

981
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: you want some postgame Tito. Well, of course I do.

982
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: Unfortunately it's postgame Tito. After a Red's loss eight one

983
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: to the Miami Marlins, Cincinnati finishes the road trip with

984
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: back to back losses. But go five and two on

985
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: the road. They're home for a three game series this

986
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: weekend against the Angels. Here's Tito. Here's Tito talking about

987
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: or after, I should say, today's seven run l against

988
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: the Fish.

989
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 8: What did you see from Louder where they were able

990
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 8: to just kind of chip away at him?

991
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, there were some balls that were hit

992
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 9: really good, and you know, the innings were probably different,

993
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 9: Like Dane almost made a great catch, TJ gets back

994
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 9: on the wall. You know those are and again those

995
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 9: balls are hit really well. But man, he'd like to,

996
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 9: you know, if we can convert a couple outs there.

997
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 9: It's a little different. It just made it a lot

998
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 9: harder for him. And he wasn't missing a ton of bats,

999
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 9: so it just made it Harderka.

1000
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 8: I certainly had your chances offensively. There were a lot

1001
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 8: of men left on base over with runners at scoring position.

1002
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 8: I know that's been a problem over the early part here,

1003
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 8: But what did you see particularly today?

1004
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 9: I just think we started to expand you know, we

1005
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 9: we want our guys to be at restive, especially with fastballs,

1006
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 9: and then they started spending it down below the bat

1007
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 9: and that's when, you know, that's when I got a

1008
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 9: little tough for us.

1009
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 8: I know you're not a big picture guy, but going

1010
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 8: home after a five and two road trip, you'll take

1011
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 8: that One's right.

1012
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 9: I don't even remember last night. I don't want to.

1013
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 9: What I care about is now is tomorrow. That's what

1014
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 9: I always care about. I think we're kind of concerned,

1015
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 9: like especially when you see it on replay. But it's

1016
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 9: it's his finger, it's not his wrist. But he checked

1017
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 9: out pretty well with the training, and I think he's okay,

1018
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 9: you considering he asked you, sure did? He gave us everything.

1019
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 9: That's you know, if we have a chance to win

1020
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 9: tomorrow because of him.

1021
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 10: A little bit of the catch to start the game,

1022
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 10: I mean, just a huge catch by Dane, and you

1023
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 10: know then the second one gets by him, but how

1024
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 10: did just a good way to start it for him.

1025
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 9: That was a very good catch. I had a great catch.

1026
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: There you go, there's Tito with the assembled Reds Media,

1027
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: led of course by Jim Day. We did we did?

1028
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: We borrow that from Red's TV. Is that part of

1029
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: our subscription, our Red's TV subscription that we get to

1030
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: steal the audio?

1031
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 5: Yes?

1032
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: Can I just say this about Red's TV today? John

1033
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: Sadak and Jeff Brantley the quarterships they were wearing very

1034
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: very nice. Uh he you heard. Tito was asked a

1035
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: question about Dane Myers who crashed into the wall making

1036
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: a catch and what was what was interesting it was

1037
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: it was in the first inning he robs his former team,

1038
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: one year to the day after he made a very

1039
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: similar catch playing for the Marlins last season of Jacob

1040
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: Marcy and the the catch today was awesome. He crashed

1041
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: really hard into the wall. It took a few minutes

1042
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: to sort of gather himself. Trainer came out ended up

1043
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: being okay, so there you go. What are we doing now?

1044
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: We're taking a phone call? Mike, go ahead, You're on

1045
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty. Mike, good afternoon. How are you? Mike,

1046
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: good afternoon? How are you do we do it one

1047
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: more time? Mike, good afternoon. How are you? Oh, apparently

1048
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: not great? Hopefully Mike's okay? H Brady Singer pitched last

1049
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: night and it went poorly, and it's gone poorly so

1050
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: far this season for Brady Singer. Brady Singer and this

1051
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: sounds harsh. Isn't not really held to extraordinarily high standards?

1052
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: Right like aces? Are top of the rotation. Guys are

1053
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: dudes who are, you know, sort of supposed to be

1054
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: a team's best pitcher. You're expecting, you know, very good

1055
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: starts close to the majority of the time with Brady's

1056
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: Singer eat innings. Now, the standard's not that low. He's

1057
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: going to do more than eight innings. He's going to

1058
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: pitch effectively and give his team a chance to win.

1059
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: But the main reason that the main reason why he's

1060
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: on the team, and that's a little bit of an

1061
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: overly simple way of looking at things, is he's there

1062
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: to kind of be the steady guy in the rotation.

1063
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: And Andrew Abbott to a large degree as well. And

1064
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: I think for the most part, Andrew Abbitt has been

1065
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: mostly steady. He's made a whopping three starts this season.

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Speaker 1: But even the game the other night, the Reds did

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Speaker 1: come back and win in part because he and the

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00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: bullpen gave the team a chance. But Brady Singer is

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00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: on a staff where they're using two guys who are

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00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: rookies and Brandon Williamson who really hadn't pitched coming into

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Speaker 1: this season since twenty twenty three, very short on experience.

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Speaker 1: Brady Singer is supposed to be the steady hand in

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Speaker 1: the rotation, the guy who's supposed to give them a

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Speaker 1: certain amount of length where you know where you go. Okay,

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00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: when it's this guy's turn, there's obviously no guarantee that

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Speaker 1: they're going to win, but for the most part, he's

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Speaker 1: going to keep us in it and we're not going

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00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: to have to use four or five relievers. Well, that

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00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: means he's got to get out of the third inning.

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00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: And every starter, every good starter, is allowed some clunkers, right,

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00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: There have been some awesome pitchers who have had some

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00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: just unspeakably bad starts, but the command hasn't been there.

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00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: It's not that Brady is the hardest thrower ever, but

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00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: the velocity seems to be a little bit down. He

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00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: just looks different. His body language on the mountain last night,

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00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: what felt like it was a little bit off, that

1087
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: that could be problematic, and like maybe it's an injury issue,

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00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: Maybe it's something that Derek Johnson can fix. Maybe these

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00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: are just three starts that by the time we get

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00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: to the middle of the May we forget because the

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00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: starts since then have been pretty good. But it's worth

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00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: paying attention to, and it matters because there is some

1093
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: degree of I don't know, variance if that's the right word,

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00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: where if Chase Burns gets beaten up, or if Rhett

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00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: Louder gets beaten up, which kind of got beaten up today,

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Speaker 1: it's not a surprise. You expect it. You expect like

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00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: wild inconsistencies that come with youth. Now because they're so talented,

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00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 1: especially Chase Burns, you're gonna get some awesome starts. So far,

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Speaker 1: that's what he's got, what's what he's given his team.

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00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: So you're a veteran guy, you're middle of the rotation guy,

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00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: the guy who's on the team to eat up innings.

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Speaker 1: He's supposed to be the dude that, on a day in,

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00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: a day out basis, on a start in and start

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Speaker 1: out basis, you're supposed to be able to wrap your

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00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: brain around what he can do. And in the absence

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00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: of that, your bullpen works more and it puts a

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00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: lot more pressure on guys who don't have nearly as

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00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: much experience. So the Brady Singer thing for me is

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00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: at least kind of worth paying attention to. Twenty nine

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00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: and after four o'clock something else worth paying attention to.

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Speaker 1: If you're a fan of two area college basketball teams.

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Speaker 1: After sports headlines, which are next on ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 1: for Life Chelsea show dot com. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: I'm talking this way. Red's lost to the Marlins today

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Speaker 1: in Mia eight won the final score ratt Louder when

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01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: five plus gave up five runs, four of them earned.

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01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's only run came off the bat of Sal Stewart,

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Speaker 1: who homeered again in his hometown with lots of friends

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Speaker 1: and family in the stands, his fourth of the season.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati finishes the road trip at five and two, which

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Speaker 1: is good. They're eight and five, which is good. They

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Speaker 1: come home to play the Angels this weekend at GABP,

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01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: debuting their new City Connect uniforms on Saturday. What else

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Speaker 1: do we have? The Masters are happening right now at Augusta,

1139
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: a tradition unlike any other, and currently atop the leaderboard.

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Speaker 1: Sam Burns and Rory McElroy are tied at five under,

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Speaker 1: two shots ahead a whole slew of golfers that include

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Speaker 1: Justin Rose, the Guy I bet On, Scottie Scheffler, Gary Woodland,

1143
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: Patrick Reid, and Jason Day. What else do we have?

1144
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: Hockey tonight, the Jackets are on the road against Buffalo.

1145
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: Colob is two games behind Ottawa for the final wild

1146
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: card spot in the Eastern Conference, and FC Cincinnati has

1147
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: engaged in Naymar's camp. The Brazilian Star and FC Cincinnati

1148
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: in the very early stages of discussions as the team

1149
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: gauges his interest and requirements. This according to Tom Bogert

1150
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: and Paul Tenorino of the athletic FC Cincinnati hits the road.

1151
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: They play in Canada against Toronto on Saturday. Kaylin Kyle

1152
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: from Apple TV joined us yesterday to talk to FC Cincinnati.

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01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: That was awesome, by the way, speaking of Apple TV

1154
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: tomorrow on the show, Heidi Watney from Apple Tomorrow, the

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Speaker 1: Reds play in an Apple game, Big big week for

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01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: Apple here on our show I was listening earlier on

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Speaker 1: since he three to sixty. Paul Frishner, mister college Basketball

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01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: the re Bound Rundown, discussed a whole bunch of different

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Speaker 1: college basketball topics, one of them Gigsel James entering the portal.

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01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: He acknowledged what Rickbrowing of Musketeer Report dot Com through

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01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: out there I guess yesterday, which is the possibility of

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Speaker 1: maybe there being some interest by Xavier in Jizsel James. Now,

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01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: there are many who feel like and I think Rick

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01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: mentioned this as well, many who feel like the smart money,

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01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: if you were to wager on such a thing, would

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01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: be on Jizzle ending up at Charlotte and we'll see,

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01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, you see players who at the portal,

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Speaker 1: and then you read about the schools that are interested,

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Speaker 1: and there's like fifteen schools named number one. I don't

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Speaker 1: know why Xavier wouldn't have some interest. He's a high

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Speaker 1: major player, averaged double figures in the Big twelve, played

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01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,959
Speaker 1: well against Big twelve teams. Now his game has limitations.

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01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he's great at creating his own shot.

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01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: As a guy who handles the ball as much as

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01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: he does, he doesn't get to the free throw line

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01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: hardly at all. The average one free throw attempt per game.

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Speaker 1: This past season, he's had more than five free throw

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Speaker 1: attempts in the game, I believe, twice in his college

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Speaker 1: basketball career. But he's a good college basketball guard. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he can be your best player, but

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01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: there's room for him in high major basketball if if

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Speaker 1: he finds the right spot. From a bearcat perspective. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I look at this two different ways. One is

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Speaker 1: I love interesting. Trey Hendrickson playing against the Bengals is interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know what block him? You decided you didn't want

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Speaker 1: to sign him. When you decided you didn't want to

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Speaker 1: sign him, that left open the possibility he could go anywhere,

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Speaker 1: including a team you played twice. So guess what, figure

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Speaker 1: out a way to block him. We'll get a chance

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Speaker 1: first hand to see if the Bengals got it right

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Speaker 1: when it comes to Trey Hendrickson and him coming to

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Speaker 1: town and the fan reaction, and it's just awesome. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: That's fun. The skyline Chili Crosstown shootown, which many will

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01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: incorrectly say has lost its luster. That statement I don't

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Speaker 1: think is very accurate, but you want to add an

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Speaker 1: interesting dynamic to it. Have a guy who played for

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Speaker 1: one side play for the other. And frankly, in this

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Speaker 1: day and age, with so much player movement, chances are

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Speaker 1: it's inevitable that we're gonna have this. Maybe it's not

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Speaker 1: Gisel James, who knows who it's gonna be with, but

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Speaker 1: like with all the player movement, and there's probably gonna

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Speaker 1: be some of it being rained in, but with all

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Speaker 1: the player movement we have it, it feels like it's

1204
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Speaker 1: almost inevitable that you're gonna have somebody who plays it

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Speaker 1: X and then plays it you see, or plays that

1206
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: you see and then plays it X. And maybe there's

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Speaker 1: a school they stop off in between. Awesome, let's go,

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Speaker 1: Like if you have lamented the fact that there aren't

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Speaker 1: as many familiar characters in the shootout as we've had

1210
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: before because of all the player movement, because the coaches

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Speaker 1: are new Jared Calhoun's first, Richard Patino's second. Here's a

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Speaker 1: familiar character. Awesome, let's do it. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: the game being at UC would make it even more fun.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. There's also this if if a woman breaks

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Speaker 1: up with me, which I'm happily married, so I'm sort

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01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: of hoping that never happens for the rest of my life.

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Speaker 1: Once you're gone, I kind of don't care now. I

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01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: don't wish you any harm, but like where you go

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01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: and who you date next, and what you do next, Like, dude,

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Speaker 1: we're done. I'm good. Do what you gotta do. Gigsel

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01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: James and U see basketball broke up. It might have

1222
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Speaker 1: been a Gigsele James initiated breakup. I don't know. But

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Speaker 1: once there's a breakup, cool, see you wherever you go.

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Speaker 1: I can't control it. I worry about what I got

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01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: from a Bearcat fan perspective. I worry about what Jared

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Speaker 1: Calhoun's building. I don't know what he's building. But I

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Speaker 1: worry about what Jared Calhoun's building, who he's bringing in,

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Speaker 1: what the team is going to look like, how they

1229
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: could use the more friendly timing than the previous two

1230
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: hires to have a really good team in year one. Like,

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01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: if you're happy with what you have, you're not really

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Speaker 1: worried about where the other person goes. I think that's

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01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: true for relationships. I think it's true for the workplace.

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Speaker 1: I think it's true in sports. The Reds traded away

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Speaker 1: Edwin and Carnacione, many complained about that for years. If

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Speaker 1: you're cool with who you got, why do you care?

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01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: Reds should have been cool with what they got because

1238
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: what they traded for is exactly what they got. So

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Speaker 1: if you're a UC fan and Gisel James ends up

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Speaker 1: in Xavier and this bothers you, then you've got some

1241
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: reservations about what your team is going to look like.

1242
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: By the way, many wanted Wes Miller gone when he

1243
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: got rid of the coach that perhaps increased the likelihood

1244
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: that any number of players could leave, and acknowledging that

1245
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: then they could go across town and in an era

1246
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: where there's never been less attachment to an individual school,

1247
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: there's probably a higher likelihood that they go to a rival. Oh,

1248
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: I kind of want this to happen, now change my tune.

1249
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: I guess if Gisel shows up at fifth third and

1250
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: hangs twenty six on the Bearcats and Xavier wins another shootout.

1251
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: But this that rivalry. That series as awesome as it is,

1252
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: let's be honest, it is lacked main characters. Now. Trey

1253
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: Carroll became a main character this year and because of

1254
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: just you know where he was in his career year

1255
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: five losing to Xavier three of the first four Wes

1256
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: Miller kind of a main character. But with the way

1257
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: college basketball has changed many many have decried first time

1258
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: I've ever used the word to cride on the show.

1259
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 1: Many have lamented. Many have complained about the fact that

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01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: in that game there's a lack of characters. There's a

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01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: lack of familiarity. Cool take a dude who played for

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01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: one school, have him played for the other in a

1263
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: game at his old school with all the ancillary stakes

1264
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: involved in a skyline Chili Town shootout. Count this Bearcat

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01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: fan as rooting for Gizl to end up exavior. I'm

1266
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 1: a UC fan. I'm also a fan of interesting. That's interesting.

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01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,879
Speaker 1: Sixteen from five o'clock. You know what else is interesting?

1268
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: Listening to people defend key Brian Hayes. I don't know

1269
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Speaker 1: why I use the word defend. Maybe if his name

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01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: was Cabrian, I'd say defend.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that coming up at five oh five.

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Speaker 1: It's sixteen from five. Brendiman and Jones on baseball is

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Speaker 1: coming up on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 1: This report is sponsored by Investigating the NFL. Tarim planned

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Speaker 1: summertime because we're getting summer weather this weekend. The only

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Speaker 1: basically the only Will Smith song, I will allow him

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Speaker 1: to play. Yeah, the DOJ is investigating the NFL, which

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Speaker 1: I'm marginally interested in. More interested in the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: Our show two weeks from tonight at Dickman's in Fort right.

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Speaker 1: We are looking forward to that. Brendanman and Jones on

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Speaker 1: baseball coming up in just a second after the top

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Speaker 1: of the hour, we'll get to the Reds loss in Miami.

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Speaker 1: You know what was true on Tuesday and Monday that

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Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't want to hear is also

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Speaker 1: true today and maybe a little bit more willing to

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Speaker 1: listen to it. We're going to get to that coming

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Speaker 1: up at five oh five. I spent the last segment

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Speaker 1: talking about college basketball and Gisel James and I mentioned

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Speaker 1: this two or three weeks ago, right after Selection Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We talked about NCAA ratings for college hoops this year

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Speaker 1: in the regular season and in conference tournaments, and the

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Speaker 1: highest rated Selection Sunday show in fourteen years. CBS and

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Speaker 1: T and T Sports had the most watched national title

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Speaker 1: game in seven years now. The way ratings have been

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Speaker 1: changed lends itself to there being some ratings increases for

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Speaker 1: live sporting events still on cable TV. Most watched National

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Speaker 1: Title game ever of twenty three percent versus twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four most title most watched National title game ever on cable,

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Speaker 1: it peaked with twenty point four million viewers. That's a

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Speaker 1: staggering number on cable on a Monday. It's a staggering

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Speaker 1: number on cable. So I know I beat this drum,

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Speaker 1: perhaps to the point of annoyance. You will hear and

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Speaker 1: read no shortage of takes about how college basketball is

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Speaker 1: ruined and how it's got to be fixed, and no

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Speaker 1: one will deny that there needs to be a few

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Speaker 1: rules at least, But again, this version of college basketball

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Speaker 1: fans seem to like, and so I hear that it's ruined.

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Speaker 1: Players are getting paid, coaches are getting paid. By the way,

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Speaker 1: you ever look at a college basketball team's bench, how

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Speaker 1: many people are on it? I'm guessing those folks, unless

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Speaker 1: there are student managers, aren't there in a volunteer basis.

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Speaker 1: So everybody's making money everybody's watching. Can't be that broken.

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Speaker 1: Thereats offense kind of is and was and has been

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Speaker 1: and will continue to be. We'll get to that coming

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Speaker 1: up after Brendivan and Jones on baseball, which is next

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Speaker 1: on ESPN fifty thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Spring is here.

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Speaker 1: Really No one covers the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports Station. Right, that's right, it's four minutes after

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Speaker 1: five o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm oegar. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for listening. I hope you're having an

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Speaker 1: awesome Thursday afternoon. The weather has been gorgeous in Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: today and hopefully, if you haven't already gotten a chance

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Speaker 1: to enjoy it, maybe you will this evening. We will see.

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Speaker 1: Not a great afternoon, though, from a Red's perspective. Beaten

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Speaker 1: by the Fish eight to one, blown out today. Rhet

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Speaker 1: Louder didn't have it, The Reds defense didn't have it.

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Speaker 1: A u Haanio Suarez made an error which we're going

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Speaker 1: to spend some time on here. In just a few minutes,

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Speaker 1: South Stewart hit a homer, which was cool, but that

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Speaker 1: was pretty much the extent of the Reds offense and

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Speaker 1: a road trip, good road trip. They went five and two.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting and funny how baseball works, though, because you

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Speaker 1: start five and zero and you lose the last two

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Speaker 1: and it feels kind of underwhelming. But if you go

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Speaker 1: five and two on the road trip and you went

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Speaker 1: like three and two in the first five and then

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Speaker 1: won the last two, it feels like you're charging home

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Speaker 1: with momentum. Reds are home this weekend and for three

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Speaker 1: games next week, six game homestand first of three against

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Speaker 1: the Angels tomorrow. So this was true on Monday and Tuesday. Monday,

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Speaker 1: we did the show. The Reds were coming off a

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Speaker 1: win on Sunday, and we did the show on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and the Reds were coming off a win on Monday.

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Speaker 1: And we did a show yesterday and the Reds were

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Speaker 1: coming off that thrilling win. My favorite game of the

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Speaker 1: year so far. It's obviously very early, but this was true.

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Speaker 1: This was true on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. The Reds

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Speaker 1: they have some offensive issues. Now, they were winning and

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Speaker 1: so it's you know, I get how this works. Hey,

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Speaker 1: who cares? They're winning, But it was fair then to

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Speaker 1: wonder how can they get more offense. Will they get

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Speaker 1: more offense? Will offensive improvement come from within? Will offensive

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Speaker 1: improvement come from somebody coming from outside? Ree Hines has

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Speaker 1: been talked about a lot Reese higinns in noelve Marte.

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Speaker 1: The comparison there is interesting to me. Noelve Marte is

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Speaker 1: twenty four years old. Noelvea is struggling. He's not playing

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Speaker 1: every day. I don't know what the consensus view of

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Speaker 1: him and the organization is. Tito Francona during spring training

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Speaker 1: had some very lukewarm things to say about Noel ve

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Speaker 1: Marte kind of midway through spring training, challenged him a

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Speaker 1: little bit. But he's not playing every single day, and

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Speaker 1: you could argue he doesn't deserve to play every single day.

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Speaker 1: But it's interesting. So ree Hines as a great spring

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Speaker 1: gets sent down, and the reason expressed by the manager

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Speaker 1: is he's gonna play every day and he's not doing

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Speaker 1: any good on the bench, and there's validity to that,

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Speaker 1: like okay, cool, that's a sign of depth. The fact

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Speaker 1: that you don't have to bring Reese Hines north and

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Speaker 1: JJ Blaney by the way, the fact that you don't

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Speaker 1: have to bring those guys north, The fact that you

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Speaker 1: don't have to have those guys in your opening days

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Speaker 1: starting lineup reflects depth. That's good, that's good, terrific, great,

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Speaker 1: except the season starts and there's offensive issues. And Noel

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Speaker 1: j Marte not producing, not hitting all while he's when

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Speaker 1: he plays, he's playing a position that he needs work at.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting they don't play him full time, they don't

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Speaker 1: play him every single day. Noelve Marte is twenty four

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Speaker 1: years old. Reese Hines not only had a bang up

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Speaker 1: spring training, but he's also done nothing but hit since

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Speaker 1: he started the season at Louisville. Why is Reese Hines

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Speaker 1: sent to Louisville because he has to play every day?

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Speaker 1: Noel ve Marte, who's younger than resigns. Why is he

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Speaker 1: up here not playing every day when the position that

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Speaker 1: he's at he's new to, which would suggest it would

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Speaker 1: make sense for him to play every day. Also, when

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Speaker 1: he plays, he's not hitting, doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: This team's got to find some offense. And if you

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Speaker 1: look at early season numbers, you can be I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you could be fooled. Sometimes you'll look at a guy's

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Speaker 1: numbers at this stage in the season, two weeks old,

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Speaker 1: and they will be through the roof and the guy

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Speaker 1: will be batting like, you know, four to seventy five,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, he's probably not going to hit

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Speaker 1: four seventy five. He's probably not that good. And conversely,

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Speaker 1: you could look at some numbers that are on the

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Speaker 1: down side of things and you're like, all right, this player,

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Speaker 1: whoever it is, maybe for the purposes of using examples

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Speaker 1: on the team right now, it's TJ. Friedel or Tyler Stevenson.

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Speaker 1: Their numbers are ghastly because there's wide swings in what

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Speaker 1: numbers look like based on what happens in one game.

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Speaker 1: But this team has offensive issues. This was all along

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Speaker 1: probably a little bit of a low ceiling offensive team.

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Speaker 1: They're better at hitting the long ball, which is awesome,

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01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: but like they're still really struggling to score runs, and

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01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 1: that falls on a lot of people. They need more

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Speaker 1: production from Tyler Stevenson, and it's fair to wonder if

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Speaker 1: they're going to get it, because they probably in the

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Speaker 1: short term need him to play a little bit more

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Speaker 1: because Jose Travino is not here, and it's hard to

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Speaker 1: look at a lineup that has TJ. Friedele leading off

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Speaker 1: and feel like that's the right decision because he's not

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Speaker 1: getting on base, and in some of these instances you

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Speaker 1: can't help. But wonder are we seeing a continuation of

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Speaker 1: things last year?

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Speaker 4: TJ.

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Speaker 1: Friedel in the second half of the season last year

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Speaker 1: was not good and Spencer Steer for a large chunk

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Speaker 1: of the season last year was league average not great.

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Speaker 1: This year he's been well below league average. So the

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Speaker 1: offensive issues are not about one guy. It never is.

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Speaker 1: It's it's never Hey, everybody is hitting except this one dude.

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Speaker 1: It's not that. But the key Brian Hayes thing, the

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Speaker 1: keep Brian Hayes thing, is what's interesting. It's interesting from

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Speaker 1: a few different perspectives, but it's worth talking about from

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Speaker 1: a few different perspectives as well, because, unlike a lot

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Speaker 1: of these other guys, keep Brian Hayes is elite at

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Speaker 1: one thing. He's elite defensively. You will find some who

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Speaker 1: claim him to be the best defensive player in the sport,

1443
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: and based on stuff that I look at that has married.

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Speaker 1: He is awesome with the glove, but that needs context,

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01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: and the context can come in the form of what

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01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: he does offensively, which he's never been a very good

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Speaker 1: offensive player. I use the number A week ago, and

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Speaker 1: it was originally in a piece that I saw on

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Speaker 1: redreporter dot Com this offseason, weighted runs created plus an

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Speaker 1: advanced metric, but not an insignificant one. If you took

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Speaker 1: all the players over the last two seasons that had

1452
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: and I'm doing this off the top of my head,

1453
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: I guess I could find it played in over two

1454
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,560
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty games or had a certain amount of

1455
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: played appearances, And if I was a good talk show host,

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Speaker 1: I'd have this in front of me. But in that

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Speaker 1: particular metric among all the players who had achieved a

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Speaker 1: certain amount of played appearances, Kee Brian Hayes was second

1459
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: worst in baseball among third basemen, and third base is

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Speaker 1: a position where, let's be honest, you typically associate it

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Speaker 1: with offense. He's below average, So, like there's a few

1462
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Speaker 1: different ways to look at this. One is what does

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Speaker 1: his offense have to look like for us to quit

1464
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 1: talking about him? Like we acknowledge he's He's never gonna

1465
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: be a guy that you want batting third or second

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01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: or fifth or fourth. You always want him near the

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Speaker 1: bottom of the order. You understand his limitations with the bat.

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Speaker 1: He's never gonna hit a ton of homers. He's never

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Speaker 1: gonna hit for a high average. He's never gonna have

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Speaker 1: a string together a ton of extra base hits. He's

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Speaker 1: never statistically gonna do anything offensively that really jumps off

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Speaker 1: the page. But you need something, right, You need something

1473
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Speaker 1: to make you go. Look, the glove is great. Just

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Speaker 1: give us this offensively, what does this look like? I'm

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01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 1: asking because I really don't know the answer. But what

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Speaker 1: this looks like can't look like what it does right now,

1477
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Speaker 1: and I will acknowledge. Keep Brian Hayes hasn't struck out

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Speaker 1: a bunch just three times this year. Keep Bryan Hayes

1479
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Speaker 1: is actually hitting the ball slightly harder on average right

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Speaker 1: now than he has for his career. The guy has

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01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: three hits this season on base fifteen percent of the time. Offensively,

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01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 1: he's I hate to say a zero, but it's kind

1483
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 1: of what he is. As great as he is with

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01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,919
Speaker 1: the glove, he's a negative war player. Small sample size,

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01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 1: but that's a fair question, right, Okay, he's great field,

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01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: no hit, but you gotta hit at least a little

1487
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 1: bit to justify being used in the lineup close to

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01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 1: every day. He did not play today, and by the way,

1489
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: Auhaniosuarez made an air playing third base in the first

1490
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 1: inning that led to a run, and so the Key

1491
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: Brian Hayes fans on social media like like, oh, okay,

1492
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: are we gonna do that every time Key Brian Hayes

1493
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: comes up in a big situation and doesn't get a hit,

1494
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: because then this season's gonna be intolerable. So there's looking

1495
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 1: at him through the lens of like, all right, he's

1496
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: not a good hitter, but doesn't he have to hit

1497
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: at a certain level where you go, okay, fine, if

1498
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 1: he does this and you get the defense, we're good.

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01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: Leave him alone. We're not there right now. There's also

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01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 1: looking at the value of the position. And you know,

1501
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 1: one of my all time favorite Reds is Scott Roland.

1502
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: Scott Rowland. I loved everything about him, loved the intangibles

1503
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: he brought to the table. I was lucky enough to

1504
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 1: interview him a year or two into his Reds ten year,

1505
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: and I love chatting with him. He was self effacing.

1506
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 1: He just seems like a good guy, doesn't take himself

1507
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 1: too seriously. Was a very good player, a very good hitter,

1508
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: and one of the best defensive third basemen of all time.

1509
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 1: And so there's value in that. There's value in having

1510
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 1: a guy at every position who can play. There's value

1511
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 1: in every position having somebody who can catch the ball

1512
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 1: when it's hit to him, can make the throws, can

1513
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 1: make all the defense, doesn't commit errors, doesn't give away

1514
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:56,719
Speaker 1: extra bases, doesn't give away extra outs. But third basemen

1515
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,480
Speaker 1: handle the ball less frequently than players at other positions.

1516
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 1: Red's third baseman coming into play today, thirty five chances

1517
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: in what was that twelve games, second base fifty shortstop

1518
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,719
Speaker 1: forty six. Those are just chances. And if you watch

1519
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, enough bait, watching a handful of

1520
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: baseball games, you see how much more frequently the other

1521
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: infield positions are involved than the third baseman. So, like

1522
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: historically you think great field, no hit, you're not thinking

1523
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: third baseman. You may be thinking shortstop, you may be

1524
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 1: thinking second base. Now, ideally you'd have a guy at

1525
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: every position who was awesome with the glove and awesome

1526
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: with the bat. And you know, every team had Joe

1527
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,759
Speaker 1: Morgan at second base, or Scott Rolling at third base,

1528
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,639
Speaker 1: or Barry Larkin at shortstop. But they got a guy

1529
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:51,799
Speaker 1: who's great field, no hit. Does that work at third base,

1530
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: So you look at it from that perspective. Yes, he's

1531
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: awesome with the glove, But if a guy on the

1532
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 1: team because he's awesome with the glove, wouldn't you be

1533
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: more comfortable with that if he was playing a position

1534
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: where he was in the game on the field a

1535
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: little bit more involved. There could also look at him

1536
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:19,719
Speaker 1: from this perspective, like, Okay, nobody's talking about key Brian Hayes.

1537
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 1: If the other dudes hit, that's undeniable, right, Like my

1538
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: thing coming into the season was if the Reds get

1539
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 1: great production from a handful of guys and good production

1540
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,759
Speaker 1: from another handful of guys, and maybe league average production

1541
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: from one other dude, all right, fine, I got a

1542
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 1: guy batting ninth, don't care what he does. That's not

1543
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 1: happening on this team this year. And so if they're

1544
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 1: getting better production from the top two spots in the

1545
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: batting order, and if Gino starts to hit a little

1546
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: bit more, and they're getting more from catcher and TJ.

1547
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: Friedel starts performing, and one of the outfield spots brings

1548
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: some offense to the table, regardless of who it comes from,

1549
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 1: whether it's Benson or or or Steer or Hines or

1550
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 1: Dane Meyers who made a great catch today or JJ Blede.

1551
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: If you get that, then you're you're less focused on

1552
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: what you're not getting from this one dude at third base.

1553
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: But the fact that that's not happening makes you go Okay.

1554
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: If the idea is well, third base offensively is going

1555
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: to be some dead weight, but everybody else is going

1556
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: to be able to help carry that dead weight because

1557
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: they're going to be more productive. That's not happening, And

1558
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,839
Speaker 1: the other way to look at it is keep Brian

1559
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: Hayes was traded from Pittsburgh to Cincinnati along with his contract,

1560
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: and what he's gonna make on an annual basis might

1561
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 1: might not be like the most eye opening amount of money.

1562
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: He's due seven million dollars this year, but he's also

1563
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: under contract for each of the next three seasons seven

1564
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 1: next year, eight, the year after that, eight the year

1565
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 1: after that. There's a team option for twenty thirty twelve

1566
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: million bucks. You were on the hook for key Brian

1567
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 1: Hayes and his contract for the rest of the decade.

1568
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:15,560
Speaker 1: He is going to be thirty years old at the

1569
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: end of the season, so be honest. Chances are. There's

1570
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: not going to be like this thirty thirty one year

1571
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: old sudden offensive resurgence that nobody saw. He's probably not

1572
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: going to get better as a hitter. He may only

1573
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: get worse and perhaps some of his defensive skills start

1574
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 1: to slip, although I don't believe that's going to happen.

1575
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 1: So you're on the hook a lot of these other

1576
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 1: guys you could talk about they need to perform better.

1577
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: But like, let's make the key Brian Hayes conversation about

1578
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 1: beyond twenty twenty six. If you're just going, hey, he's

1579
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: on the team we traded for him and the contract,

1580
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 1: knowing what he is, which is great field, no hit,

1581
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: he's playing third base, playing most of the time no

1582
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: matter what. Well, then you're gonna have to do a

1583
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 1: really good job of building a team around him. And

1584
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 1: maybe by the middle of this season we say that

1585
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: the Reds have done that. Right now, you can. I

1586
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: know they're eight and five, and that's awesome, And they're

1587
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: eight and five and I think genuinely a better baseball

1588
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 1: team than they were last year today. Notwithstanding they've been

1589
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 1: better defensively for the most part, they've been better on

1590
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: the bases, they have more home run potential. They've hit

1591
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 1: eleven and thirteen games. There is a tremendous amount of

1592
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 1: upside with the starting pitching. Despite Brady Singer not getting

1593
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: past the third yesterday. There are more options in the bullpen,

1594
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 1: but they are dealing with an offense that this to

1595
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: this point of the season hasn't been very good. And

1596
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:58,719
Speaker 1: chances are this team this season offensively is I keep

1597
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 1: using the term not a high ceiling team, but they're

1598
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 1: probably not. That's got a change. It's got to change

1599
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: this year. But moving forward, you're gonna be building teams

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01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 1: around a guy who plays again third base, who's a

1601
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 1: below average league hitter or a below league average hitter.

1602
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be able to build teams around kee

1603
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: Brian Hayes? That get us to stop talking about him?

1604
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: I know it sounds like we're picking on the dude,

1605
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 1: and that is never my intention. While we're judging his performance,

1606
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 1: the performance speaks for itself. Keep Brian Hayes, by all accounts,

1607
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 1: is a terrific guy. There's a place on the team

1608
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: for him, there's a place in the league form what

1609
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 1: he does well. He does exceptionally well, and yeah, that

1610
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 1: has value, but the value is kind of limited by

1611
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 1: the position that he plays, and the value is kind

1612
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 1: of compromised by the fact that he don't bring anything

1613
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 1: to the table offensively, at least hasn't yet. And the

1614
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 1: fact that he's not bringing anything to the table offensively

1615
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 1: you could swallow, you could deal with if the other

1616
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: guys would. Right now, nobody is. Let's be honest, when

1617
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 1: we talk about the guys who aren't, we're kind of

1618
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 1: sifting through a lot of familiar suspects here, Freidol, Benson, Marte, Steer, Stevenson, like,

1619
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 1: not a whole lot of dudes who before the season

1620
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 1: we were talking about having great years. So there's a

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01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 1: lot there. Man, I admit that five point three seven,

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01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,680
Speaker 1: four nine, fifteen thirty and I promise you, man, like,

1623
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: this is not pick on key Brian Hayes day. That's

1624
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 1: that's not Look, they didn't lose the game. Keep Brian

1625
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 1: Haze even play today, as I might came to work

1626
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 1: this morning thinking like I want to talk about this

1627
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 1: because I think why he's on the team and what

1628
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't do and what they're trying to do with

1629
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 1: him and the lack of other options is really interesting.

1630
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 1: This in my opinion, and it's just me. The most

1631
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: interesting team dynamic is having a guy who plays third

1632
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 1: base who doesn't hit for the rest of the decade.

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Speaker 1: Greater Kenwood area. I will be at rally House Montgomery

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01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 1: Road from noon to two, hanging out. Say hi, buy

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01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:08,640
Speaker 1: some Reds gear, Buy me some Reds gear. Buy me

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Speaker 1: one of those quarter zips that Jeff Brantley and John

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Speaker 1: Sadak we're wearing on TV today. And when one of

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Speaker 1: the gift cards that I have, I've got some rally

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01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: House gift cards I'll be giving away. Now, this isn't

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01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: one of those deals. I can't make it, Kenny, No,

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01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: you've got to come to rally I'm giving you time.

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01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,919
Speaker 1: It's during lunch rally House and Kenwood. Now, we obviously

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01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 1: love all the rally House locations around Greater Cincinnati, but

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01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 1: we'll be at the the Kenwood location tomorrow from noon

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01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:37,799
Speaker 1: to two. I'll be calling in to Tony and Austin

1665
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 1: and that's always a good time and giving away gift

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01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: cards and hanging out and just enjoying a nice Friday

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Speaker 1: afternoon Rally House in Kenwood. We hope to see you

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Speaker 1: there tomorrow in the show. Heidi Watney from Apple TV.

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01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 1: Red's are the Apple TV game tomorrow and NFL Draft

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01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:57,679
Speaker 1: expert Mike Renner will be on the show at four

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01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 1: oh five. We are two weeks away from the NFL

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01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 1: Draft and the possibilities seemingly endless for the Bengals as

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01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:09,640
Speaker 1: we inch closer. I brought this up yesterday with Cornerback

1674
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 1: kind of gaining steam as something that a lot of

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01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 1: people who do mock drafts are focusing in on the

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01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 1: fallout from that this offseason. Like, let's be honest, the

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01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 1: waves of the Bengals offseason are typically free agency, then

1678
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 1: the guys the players come back for the offseason workout

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01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 1: right before the draft that starts on the twentieth, then

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01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 1: the draft, and then we get into OTA's in mini camp.

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01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: In the middle of all that, we find out which

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01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 1: players are unhappy with their contract status or maybe which

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01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,560
Speaker 1: players get signed if they take a corner with the

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01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 1: tenth overall pick, either Dax Hill or DJ Turner or

1685
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 1: maybe both ain't getting signed. Who makes a stink? Who

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01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 1: gives me? Sports talk radio topics in June and July

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Speaker 1: to one in Miami. Reht Ladder did not pitch well,

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Speaker 1: Reds didn't hit well. Salth Stewart did. Salth stewart Is

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Speaker 1: awesome fourth home run of the season, It went for naught.

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Speaker 1: Red's finished the road trip five and two, but with

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Speaker 1: two consecutive losses to wind it down. Their home tomorrow

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Speaker 1: first of three against the La Angels at GABP. This

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Speaker 1: is an interesting story and one certainly worth paying attention

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Speaker 1: to if you're an FC Cincinnati fan, or if you're

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Speaker 1: a soccer fan. According to The Athletic, FC Cincinnati is

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Speaker 1: engaging in preliminary discussions about Naymar potentially moving to Major

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Speaker 1: League Soccer. This according to Tom Bogert and Paul ten

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Speaker 1: Oreo Tenorio Paul Tenerio I tried anyway. They report that

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Speaker 1: very early. It don't get too excited, but Naymar an

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Speaker 1: FC Cincinnati, engaging in internal conversations about his interest and requirements,

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Speaker 1: So keep that in mind. Pay attention augustin National Round

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Speaker 1: one of the Masters, Sam Burns and Roy McElroy, both

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Speaker 1: in the clubhouse atop the leader board at five under

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Speaker 1: Jason Day, Patrick Reid and Justin Rose are two shots back.

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Speaker 1: A whole bunch of other dudes are three shots back.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm watching folks on social media, there

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Speaker 1: are conversations about one of the features of attending the Masters,

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Speaker 1: which is you can't bring a cell phone. And I

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Speaker 1: was very lucky in twenty nineteen because of a friend

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Speaker 1: of mine who had access not on the secondary market

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Speaker 1: to badges. I went to Thursday and Friday of the Masters,

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Speaker 1: and it was awesome. Now I don't get into some

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Speaker 1: of the more smallsy romanticizing of that place like others,

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Speaker 1: but it was an unbelievable experience, and it was amplified

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Speaker 1: by the fact that I didn't have my phone. I

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Speaker 1: could take in cigars and no phone, and I was

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Speaker 1: in Heaven said It's part of the charm of that event.

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Speaker 1: It was great. I'm watching people on social media debate

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Speaker 1: whether or not there are other places who should adopt

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Speaker 1: something like this, maybe like a no cell phone bar

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Speaker 1: or restaurant, which in some cities, I guess these establishments exist.

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Speaker 1: Our poll question, thanks to United Heartland Insurance, would you

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Speaker 1: patronize an Augusta National theme bar restaurant that prohibited cell

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Speaker 1: phone use? And there's three choices, yes, which is A,

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Speaker 1: or B which is I'll say yes because this is hypothetical,

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Speaker 1: but if such a place became reality here, I really

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Speaker 1: wouldn't go and no, And right now the majority of

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Speaker 1: folks say be or C. You can vote now. Poll

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Speaker 1: questions on Twitter seem to be kind of broken, and

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know why we brought that up yesterday. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: vote now, or at least try to vote. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna make a joke there that it's probably the best

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Speaker 1: the Jackets skate at Buffalo. Four games remaining for Columbus

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Speaker 1: and a big win over Detroit the other night. Jackets

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Speaker 1: are two games behind Ottawa in the hunt for the

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Speaker 1: last Eastern Conference wild card spot. Five point three seven

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Speaker 1: nine fifteen thirty is our phone number. I'll try one

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Speaker 1: more time, Mike, go ahead.

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Speaker 7: My apologies as usual.

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Speaker 1: Well, there are very few people that I would give

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Speaker 1: a second chance to for not being not being ready

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Speaker 1: to go when we came to you, but we make

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Speaker 1: an exception for you.

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Speaker 7: I'm very owner that you do that. Thank you so much. Sure,

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Speaker 7: sometimes the medical staff rules over anything else I do,

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Speaker 7: so I understand anyway. Yes, good to hear your voice.

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Speaker 7: Enjoyed the show today, Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Because I know you don't enjoy the show

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Speaker 1: every day.

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Speaker 7: Well I typically do. Sometimes I'm just a little.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, you know what, The reasons why people listen

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Speaker 1: don't matter. The fact that you do does. So you

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Speaker 1: could hate listen, right like Howard Stern and people like that.

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Speaker 1: Rush Limball made careers out of people hate listening. So

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Speaker 1: you could hate the show as long as you listen

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Speaker 1: to it.

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Speaker 7: Well, as long as I don't bother you afterwards personally

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Speaker 7: with an email. So that's something I get it.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: We we like any and all correspondence. Any and all

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Speaker 1: correspondence is welcome.

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Speaker 7: Well, you will never have a more devoted let's harner

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Speaker 7: than me. I'll tell you that. Well, thank you anyway. Uh.

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Speaker 7: I like Ludwig Ludwig Obert to win it. I got

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Speaker 7: even sixteen to one. Where are we at on the

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Speaker 7: leader board, Karen?

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Speaker 1: You know he's right out tied for forty second. He's

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Speaker 1: two over through fourteen.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he'll come up. He's gonna come up. My boy,

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Speaker 7: my sweetish boy, Ludvig. I loved him. You like it

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Speaker 7: in the city uniforms.

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Speaker 1: I do. I like it when they when they lean

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Speaker 1: into red more than black. Nothing against the color black.

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Speaker 1: I'd root for teams where the primary color is black.

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Speaker 1: But I like it when the Cincinnati Reds lean into

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Speaker 1: the color they're named after. I do think they would

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Speaker 1: be interesting to look at if the pants were white.

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Speaker 1: I like the pinstripe. I like the color red. I

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Speaker 1: am a count me as a fan.

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Speaker 7: I love it. Yeah, you're the red legs, You're not

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Speaker 7: the black legs. Okay, Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the black, the black City connect

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Speaker 1: uniforms I think are esthetically pleasing. I don't dislike them.

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Speaker 1: But when I think of Cincinnati red, I think of

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Speaker 1: the color red, and my favorite Red's looks historically either

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Speaker 1: involve white and red and that's it, or that real

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Speaker 1: old school red and navy blue, which are the colors

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Speaker 1: that those pullovers that John Sadak and Jeff Brantley were

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Speaker 1: wearing on TV today, that if one of those happened

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Speaker 1: to be laying around, I'd.

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Speaker 11: Buy What are Who are the two teams that don't

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Speaker 11: buy into the There are Dodgers. Just the Dodgers City

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Speaker 11: connect are garbage.

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Speaker 7: They're stupid. No, actually they're paying. They're paying a tribute

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Speaker 7: to the Memorial Coliseum, which is where they played when

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Speaker 7: they first came from New York. But the uniforms are stupid.

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Speaker 1: So the two things about this one the Dodgers don't

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers' City connect unis are bad. But the blue

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Speaker 1: jersey they debuted on the road this year, which looks

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Speaker 1: like a spring train, that is I like that. That's

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Speaker 1: a Dodger blue. The two teams that don't do a

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Speaker 1: city connector are the Yankees because they're the Yankees, and

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Speaker 1: the Athletics because they're technically not affiliated right now with

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Speaker 1: any city, and.

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Speaker 7: Because the Athletics, in my opinion, have the most aesthetically

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Speaker 7: pleasing uniforms in all baseball, and I felt that way

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Speaker 7: for about forty years.

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Speaker 1: The a's road uniform is my favorite in baseball. We

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Speaker 1: are of like mind there, Mike, Oh, really beautiful?

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Speaker 7: Can I switched to the NBA real quick?

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Speaker 1: Can it?

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Speaker 7: Actually? Actually?

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Speaker 11: My Dodgers went up there and we almost swept those

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Speaker 11: dogs on Blue Jays.

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Speaker 7: We just swipped a little bit last night. But show hey, Joe.

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Speaker 7: I heard an interview with Roberts today and he said,

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Speaker 7: show Hay is obsessed with getting ASA young this year,

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Speaker 7: so we'll see. He had a hell of a game

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Speaker 7: last night. SGA Ska should get the MDP.

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Speaker 1: In your mind, yeah, I don't have an issue with that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know there are folks who object with

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Speaker 1: the way he plays because it's not the most visually appealing,

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Speaker 1: but he's the best player on the best team. The

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Speaker 1: thunder have wrapped up the one seed in the West.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna win sixty five or sixty six games. He's

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Speaker 1: had Jing over thirty per h. He's he's played in

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Speaker 1: above the sixty five game threshold, which is very controversial.

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Speaker 1: You know, wemban Yama is my favorite player to watch.

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Speaker 1: His time is going to come. I wouldn't have any

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Speaker 1: objection to anybody who voted for him, But I think

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Speaker 1: if I had a vote, I would probably lee. I'd

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Speaker 1: probably lean SGA.

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Speaker 7: No, if you had to start a team, who would

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Speaker 7: be the guy you would pick? It's got to be

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Speaker 7: the Joker Man.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be.

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Speaker 7: Now. But I'm just telling you did did you see

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Speaker 7: what the Joker did to him last Saturday?

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 7: Put that fadeaway jumper on the baseline. He got forty

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Speaker 7: on him.

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Speaker 1: Joker is Joker is a Joker is a multi time MVP,

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Speaker 1: and yet he's still underrated.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I say.

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Speaker 1: But if, but if, but if, but if I had

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Speaker 1: to start a franchise, give me a seven foot four,

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Speaker 1: twenty two year old who's already a star, who can

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Speaker 1: shoot it, who can handle it, who's a great rebounder. Like,

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Speaker 1: if I'm starting a franchise right now, I don't even

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Speaker 1: have to think about this. What he is going to

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Speaker 1: be as a twenty five or twenty six year old

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Speaker 1: is I can't He's already awesome. I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: see what his future has in store. If I had

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Speaker 1: to start a franchise with one guy, I'll give you

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Speaker 1: everybody else. I'm taking Wenby.

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Speaker 7: I'm with you. You give your Knicks any shot to

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Speaker 7: get out of the East.

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Speaker 1: A little bit because they're healthy. But the problem is,

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Speaker 1: like this stage in the season, I don't like it

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01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 1: when a team that's supposed to be a contender is

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Speaker 1: still trying to figure out who's going to be in

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Speaker 1: the rotation, who's going to start, how they want to play. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: there's just at their best and this is not me

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Speaker 1: being biased. When they are at their best offensively, I

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Speaker 1: think they're the most fun team in the league to watch.

1901
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 1: The problem is A, they're not always at their best. B.

1902
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 1: They have these extraordinarily long defensive lapses. They are so

1903
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 1: puzzling at times. I struggle to believe that they can

1904
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 1: beat the Boston Celtics four times. I have a tough

1905
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 1: time believing now that Cunningham is back, that they could

1906
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 1: beat the Detroit Pistons four times. I am deathly afraid,

1907
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 1: and Tara and I were talking about this in the

1908
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 1: office yesterday. Now we'll see Philadelphia has lost their last two.

1909
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 1: They're not gonna have embiid. Philly for a while was

1910
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 1: occupying that sixth spot. The Knicks have a decent chance

1911
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 1: to be the three. They've got to hold off Cleveland.

1912
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 1: The Knicks have a tough game tonight at home against Boston.

1913
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:43,599
Speaker 1: I do not want to play Philly if they play

1914
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 1: in Round one Atlanta or Toronto, I think they will win.

1915
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 1: If they played Cleveland in a series, which that would

1916
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 1: have to be in the conference final. I think that's

1917
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 1: a coin flip. I think they would be really hard

1918
01:46:55,479 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 1: pressed to win four games against Detroit, and I see

1919
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: no scenario where a fully healthy Boston team allows New

1920
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 1: York to beat him four times. So I'll give him

1921
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 1: a puncher's chance. But no, I don't think they're gonna

1922
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:11,599
Speaker 1: come out of the East.

1923
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 7: I love talking MBA with you, and I'm sure you

1924
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 7: and Taren have good conversations as well. So thanks Mo

1925
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Speaker 7: for the time, and you have a blessed weekend.

1926
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Speaker 10: Bro.

1927
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Speaker 1: You too, Mike, thanks so much. Good to hear from you.

1928
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 1: As always, we gotta go. Terren's playing the music. It

1929
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 1: means so show's over, gonna go see it, get out

1930
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 1: of here. Don tomorrow. Hey do you want any from Apple?

1931
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:37,719
Speaker 1: And on baseball because she's working the game tomorrow Reds

1932
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 1: and Angels and Mike Renner NFL Draft guy, he's the best.

1933
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 1: Albe at rally house tomorrow from noon to two giving

1934
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:47,879
Speaker 1: out gift cards. So stop by and uh, we're done.

1935
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Speaker 1: Anything you ams go find on the iHeartRadio app. Thanks

1936
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Speaker 1: to long Next Sportsquirrel, thanks to Tarren Bland for producing,

1937
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 1: and thanks to you for listening. Have a great night.

1938
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow at three oh five on

1939
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Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

1940
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1941
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1945
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1946
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1947
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Speaker 1: Three right lanes are blocked.

1948
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Speaker 3: Also, we're looking at seventy five sowing southbound Ronald Reagan

1949
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Speaker 3: Highway to Norwood Lateral and from the Vine back to

1950
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Speaker 3: the Brunspence Bridge. North Bond seventy one is sewing Smith

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Speaker 3: edwards from Ronald Reagan Cross County Highway. I'm Rick Shrimp

1952
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Speaker 3: with traffic this report