WEBVTT - Eddie & Rocky w/ Tanya O'Rourke -- 1/20/26

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<v Speaker 1>Plus I don't know if I don't think my wife

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<v Speaker 1>will let me, uh with the but rock, we have

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<v Speaker 1>other fish to fry. Right now. It is Tuesday round

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<v Speaker 1>about this time, it is time to talk to the Queen.

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<v Speaker 1>Our good friend from w CPO nine News, Tanya o

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<v Speaker 1>Roorg Tanya, Welcome back, guys. It's been a while since

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<v Speaker 1>we've chatted with you. I know you were lounging on

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<v Speaker 1>the beach there for a little bit. I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you, coming back to this, she was

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<v Speaker 2>really tough. You talk about retiring. That sounded good while

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<v Speaker 2>I was down there, But there's no end in sight here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not stopping any time since Oh no, no, the

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<v Speaker 2>baby's got to get shoes'.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the bad thing about going to nice weather places

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<v Speaker 1>this time of year, because you come back and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like this.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's really cool, Thank goodness for the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>Though I can come to tolerate it if sunny. If

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<v Speaker 2>it's just gloomy and forty or drizzle and forty, that's

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<v Speaker 2>way worse than this.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, I agree with the one hundred percent. As long

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<v Speaker 3>as the sun's out makes it makes it tolerable. But uh,

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<v Speaker 3>the last last night, Tom, did you watch the National

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<v Speaker 3>Championship game and do you have any thoughts?

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<v Speaker 2>I did watch it, Okay, so I'm really happy for Indiana.

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<v Speaker 2>I did, and I'm glad they won because I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is this feels like a fate all company, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they needed to do this.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also was kind of rooting against Miami. Is

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<v Speaker 4>that bad?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that mean that that's honest?

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of people were really Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I didn't like the hits they were putting

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<v Speaker 2>on the quarterback. I thought was kind of dirty.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they got away up from the.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think. You know, it's been an interesting it's

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<v Speaker 4>interesting to watch, kind of like the rest of between

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL and.

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<v Speaker 2>That game less, I like what's been going on. And

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<v Speaker 2>then we had Joe Burrow tweet about all that stuff

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<v Speaker 2>last night that caused an uproar in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the game.

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<v Speaker 4>That was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>But the game last night I thought was was actually

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<v Speaker 2>really good. And at the end, I thought, Okay, Indiana

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<v Speaker 2>is trying to give it away. I mean, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the least penalized teams, and here they were making mistakes

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<v Speaker 2>left and right, and I thought they're trying to lose

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<v Speaker 2>this game.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going to give it up, and then they didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I was I was really happy. I know a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of kids in this area went to IU.

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<v Speaker 2>I worked with a lot of IU has a good

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<v Speaker 2>journalism program, so a lot of our producers are from IU.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you've noticed on w CPO nine the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks, I've been mentioned quite a bit leading

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<v Speaker 2>up to the national championship, and it's because they write

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<v Speaker 2>the stories.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, they're they're leaning in on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was really happy for all those folks because

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<v Speaker 2>can you imagine going to IU. You really haven't had

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<v Speaker 2>much to hear for the last couple of decades.

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<v Speaker 1>So this was period well rocket besides basketball obviously, but

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<v Speaker 1>a rocket agree not that much with them. The football

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<v Speaker 1>problem with the football program, yeah rocketed.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's a stat tany on October fifteenth of twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 3>IU became the first D one program to reach seven

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<v Speaker 3>hundred losses and they were the losiness program in college

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<v Speaker 3>football until like a year ago, I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>at Northwestern. I ever took them, and so yeah, they

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<v Speaker 3>go from that seven hundred something losses to the national

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<v Speaker 3>title in a couple of years, it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, and I've heard this and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's true. You boys would no better than I,

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<v Speaker 2>but that U see turned away Signetti saying he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have enough experience as a head coach.

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<v Speaker 3>That's correct.

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<v Speaker 1>See is that the reason I've heard you and what

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking about. I had never read any now reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why now?

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<v Speaker 3>To be fair, you know, and again, obviously be fair,

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead. Hindsight is twenty twenty. But I think sure

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<v Speaker 3>there would have been a lot of Bearcat fans had

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<v Speaker 3>they hired Kurt Signetti. And this is back when no

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<v Speaker 3>one knew And I said, wait a minute, we just hired

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<v Speaker 3>a coach from James Mattison who's been in the FBS

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<v Speaker 3>one year. They've been an FCS program for most of

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<v Speaker 3>their tenure in college football. We hired him. Well, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's of course what an athletic director and a hiring

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<v Speaker 3>staff must overlook. And I will say this too, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if Kurt Signetti happens at a at a

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<v Speaker 3>more blue blood school, because the scrutiny it would be

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<v Speaker 3>so fierce, you know, at a at a bigger program

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<v Speaker 3>where in Indiana they're like, well, no one gives a

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<v Speaker 3>damn anyway, so let's let's try this, right. They were

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<v Speaker 3>able to kind of roll the dice and go with

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<v Speaker 3>the gut instinct and try it, where other programs it

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<v Speaker 3>would a little bit harder, and maybe you see was

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<v Speaker 3>one of them.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, we had a good run under Luke Fickle obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>which prior to that, you see, I mean, you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>give away tickets to UC Beartay game before Luke.

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<v Speaker 4>Sickle showed up.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that, with all due respect to coach Satterfield,

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<v Speaker 2>when he was hired, everyone was like, what why would

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<v Speaker 2>you do that?

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<v Speaker 4>So it's the same sort of like huh yeah kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know he came from Louisville, even though Louisville was,

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<v Speaker 2>at least according to my friends own, they were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of them when we hired him. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, so Signetti, we could have had Signetti.

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<v Speaker 1>We did it to Rocks Point though, too. He is

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<v Speaker 1>they are a big ten school, so it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little easier to get these nil guys to come in

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<v Speaker 1>there and draw on that game.

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<v Speaker 3>And they were also going through the transition. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>from you know, a group of five team to a

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<v Speaker 3>big twelve team. So that was right, Yeah, it would

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<v Speaker 3>have been quite as seamless as it happened in Indian either.

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<v Speaker 2>It was clear to me that his winning formula, at

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<v Speaker 2>least as far as like what kind of players he attracted,

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<v Speaker 2>were players who were kind of fifty or six year seniors.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you see that replicating itself across you know,

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<v Speaker 2>college football now, like people going, I want to do

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<v Speaker 2>what Signetti did here.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a fantastic observation, Tanya, and I think you're

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely right, and the answer is yes. The average age

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<v Speaker 3>of a player on Indiana's football team was twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>years old. That's the average NFL team, right, that's an

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<v Speaker 3>NFL team. Yes, So well you see that more in

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<v Speaker 3>the future, yes, and that's going to that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, change a lot of things when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to high school recruiting. You know, like colleges are like

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<v Speaker 3>Indiana version, we're plucking more kids out of the portal

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<v Speaker 3>that played in college than they are out of high school.

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<v Speaker 3>Why because you get an older like like what usually

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<v Speaker 3>wins like an older man or like a younger man, right,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who's eighteen or twenty three, someone who has experience,

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<v Speaker 3>whose body is now fully developed. And credit curse Signetti

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<v Speaker 3>for recognizing that and using the modern ways of assembling

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<v Speaker 3>a roster that you couldn't have done five years ago. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>he's able to now implement that. We now we can

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<v Speaker 3>get older, more experienced players here and make that the

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<v Speaker 3>bulk of our team. He did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so he used the system properly. But can I

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<v Speaker 2>just also state that I think this system really is

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<v Speaker 2>broken and needs to be fixed because we're no longer,

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<v Speaker 2>as you just mentioned, we're talking about men playing football here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not talking about college students playing football anymore. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, the guy who was the quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>for Miami is like, yeah, I graduated two years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I know Joe Burrow did that too, But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we're now at a point where, like I think, what a.

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<v Speaker 2>High state has like thirty six open positions on its team?

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<v Speaker 2>Ohigh state a blue blood you talk about bluelood organization,

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<v Speaker 2>But all these kids are in the portal and they're

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<v Speaker 2>all just looking for more money or a coach major

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<v Speaker 2>who won't be as hard on them, or whatever they're

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<v Speaker 2>looking for.

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<v Speaker 4>But This has to be utterly exhausting for these schools

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<v Speaker 4>and coaches.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to probably have three times the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>scouts and stuff. Now it's just trying to sort through

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<v Speaker 2>all of this, and it just feels like something needs

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<v Speaker 2>to fix fast or college football is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in big trouble in a hurry.

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<v Speaker 3>People say that, but I mean the television numbers aren't

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<v Speaker 3>out yet, but I know it's going to be big.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, what you get with older players, you

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<v Speaker 3>get a cleaner game. I mean, Indiana, I just saw

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<v Speaker 3>a stout on Twitter. I just passed it up. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's like they haven't hadn't lost a fumble and like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like a twelve hundred snaps kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're getting a older players, more experienced players. You're

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<v Speaker 3>getting a more well played game, if that makes sense,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And they like that, well, yeah, I agree,

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<v Speaker 3>and that'll you know, I think that'll take some time

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<v Speaker 3>to play out. Do people go, well, they're not really

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<v Speaker 3>college players, but they're not NFL players.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so but it's entertaining.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like NFL junior Now, I mean, what is.

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<v Speaker 3>What is it remains?

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's really interesting to me, and I really think

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<v Speaker 2>you can go into the portal. You can probably you

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<v Speaker 2>should probably only be able to go once and then

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<v Speaker 2>that's it, Like you better make your second choice correctly

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<v Speaker 2>or else you got to sit out or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Rock Rocket a story last week about how many times

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<v Speaker 1>did the one kid transferred, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Seven, he's on seventh school in seven years.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>That needs to be done a lot with and I

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<v Speaker 3>think I certainly agree with you. I would love to

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<v Speaker 3>see a kid get no matter what, no more than

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<v Speaker 3>you know. I think five should be the max under

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<v Speaker 3>unless under some extraordinary circumstances where you get a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you tear a and an a c L or something. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you get a six year, but a seventh or

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<v Speaker 3>more that that seems a little, a little egregious.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I ask one more question? It's an NFL question,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a Bangal question. Yes, how bombed are you me?

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<v Speaker 2>I know I am as a Bengals fan that if

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<v Speaker 2>we could have at least been at all decent, we

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<v Speaker 2>could have been gone deep into.

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<v Speaker 4>The playoffs this year. There is no no team that

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<v Speaker 4>I look at that are left. Is that exciting? Like? Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a great team. I don't. Maybe I'm wrong there,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe some.

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<v Speaker 1>More you're run and I talked, we had that very

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<v Speaker 1>same discussion Land. We were just talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can what ifs, but yeah, they could have they

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<v Speaker 1>could have rocked.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So then the question becomes, how do the Busno Bills

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<v Speaker 2>fire their coach who's done so well?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know, you know the question I'm asking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they don't. They don't think he was ever going

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<v Speaker 3>to get them over the hump. And the Steelers, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>thought the same thing, is what we want to go

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<v Speaker 3>to the playoffs every year because if you do, then

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<v Speaker 3>then yeah, Mike Tomlin is our coach, you know. But

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<v Speaker 3>they they and I'm not sure even know if I

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<v Speaker 3>agree with them, but they don't feel like he was

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that was ever going to get them past that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Buffalo thought the same thing. It's it's not

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<v Speaker 3>just good enough for us to go to the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 3>even go deep in the playoffs. We we want we

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<v Speaker 3>feel like we got certainly the quarterback and some elements

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<v Speaker 3>of our roster where we can have a legitimate shot

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<v Speaker 3>at winning a a championship. And they didn't think McDermott

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<v Speaker 3>was a guy to do that. And I also heard

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<v Speaker 3>a report that McDermott in a kind of an end

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<v Speaker 3>of the year meeting with the GM and the owner

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<v Speaker 3>expressed that, hey, I don't I don't think we have

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<v Speaker 3>like our talent is as good as it needs to be.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think they they kind of bulked that a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, like you telling us, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if you're a Bengal player, if you're if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who is on the roster for the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 2>how should you be feeling right now looking around?

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<v Speaker 3>What what do you mean in what regard.

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<v Speaker 2>So all these other teams that got further than you were,

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<v Speaker 2>Like all you are out of here because it's not

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<v Speaker 2>good enough.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not doing a good enough job. And Bengals are

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<v Speaker 4>saying we're good enough.

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<v Speaker 2>We got the talent inside the locker room, We got

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<v Speaker 2>the talent inside the building to get us to the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>Does does Joe Burrow think that?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I don't think he does.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he does at all. I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>why he keeps, you know, making you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>comments and you know, like, hey, we gotta we gotta

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<v Speaker 3>get better here, And he shouldn't feel I don't feel

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<v Speaker 3>like this is this is a roster that obviously obviously

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<v Speaker 3>it's not a roster that I can go to a

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<v Speaker 3>you can go to a super Bowl, and it needs

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<v Speaker 3>to get better, and hopefully it does.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm gonna switch from news to sports. This

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<v Speaker 2>is really fun.

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<v Speaker 3>This is fun, right, Come join us, Tony. This is

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<v Speaker 3>great and we can be talking about ice protests and

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<v Speaker 3>all this, but we get to talk about football today.

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<v Speaker 1>Table.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right there, we go.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, good, well, welcome back to the frigid North.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy your memories of the South.

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<v Speaker 2>I all look at the photos every couple of days

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<v Speaker 2>and just remind myself of what when I get in

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<v Speaker 2>the hot shower, I'll be like, oh, that's what it

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<v Speaker 2>felt like.

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<v Speaker 1>See you, buddy. Yeah, thanks Tanya, our good friend Tanya

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<v Speaker 1>Rourke