Speaker 1: Plus I don't know if I don't think my wife
Speaker 1: will let me, uh with the but rock, we have
Speaker 1: other fish to fry. Right now. It is Tuesday round
Speaker 1: about this time, it is time to talk to the Queen.
Speaker 1: Our good friend from w CPO nine News, Tanya o
Speaker 1: Roorg Tanya, Welcome back, guys. It's been a while since
Speaker 1: we've chatted with you. I know you were lounging on
Speaker 1: the beach there for a little bit. I was.
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, coming back to this, she was
Speaker 2: really tough. You talk about retiring. That sounded good while
Speaker 2: I was down there, But there's no end in sight here.
Speaker 2: We're not stopping any time since Oh no, no, the
Speaker 2: baby's got to get shoes'.
Speaker 1: That's the bad thing about going to nice weather places
Speaker 1: this time of year, because you come back and it's
Speaker 1: like this.
Speaker 2: I know, it's really cool, Thank goodness for the sun.
Speaker 2: Though I can come to tolerate it if sunny. If
Speaker 2: it's just gloomy and forty or drizzle and forty, that's
Speaker 2: way worse than this.
Speaker 3: To me, I agree with the one hundred percent. As long
Speaker 3: as the sun's out makes it makes it tolerable. But uh,
Speaker 3: the last last night, Tom, did you watch the National
Speaker 3: Championship game and do you have any thoughts?
Speaker 2: I did watch it, Okay, so I'm really happy for Indiana.
Speaker 2: I did, and I'm glad they won because I thought,
Speaker 2: you know, this is this feels like a fate all company, right,
Speaker 2: they needed to do this.
Speaker 4: But I also was kind of rooting against Miami. Is
Speaker 4: that bad?
Speaker 2: Does that mean that that's honest?
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people were really Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I didn't like the hits they were putting
Speaker 2: on the quarterback. I thought was kind of dirty.
Speaker 1: I thought they got away up from the.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. You know, it's been an interesting it's
Speaker 4: interesting to watch, kind of like the rest of between
Speaker 4: the NFL and.
Speaker 2: That game less, I like what's been going on. And
Speaker 2: then we had Joe Burrow tweet about all that stuff
Speaker 2: last night that caused an uproar in the middle of
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 4: That was fun.
Speaker 2: But the game last night I thought was was actually
Speaker 2: really good. And at the end, I thought, Okay, Indiana
Speaker 2: is trying to give it away. I mean, one of
Speaker 2: the least penalized teams, and here they were making mistakes
Speaker 2: left and right, and I thought they're trying to lose
Speaker 2: this game.
Speaker 4: They're going to give it up, and then they didn't.
Speaker 4: I was I was really happy. I know a lot
Speaker 4: of kids in this area went to IU.
Speaker 2: I worked with a lot of IU has a good
Speaker 2: journalism program, so a lot of our producers are from IU.
Speaker 2: So if you've noticed on w CPO nine the last
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, I've been mentioned quite a bit leading
Speaker 2: up to the national championship, and it's because they write
Speaker 2: the stories.
Speaker 4: So yeah, they're they're leaning in on that one.
Speaker 2: But I was really happy for all those folks because
Speaker 2: can you imagine going to IU. You really haven't had
Speaker 2: much to hear for the last couple of decades.
Speaker 1: So this was period well rocket besides basketball obviously, but
Speaker 1: a rocket agree not that much with them. The football
Speaker 1: problem with the football program, yeah rocketed.
Speaker 3: Here's a stat tany on October fifteenth of twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: IU became the first D one program to reach seven
Speaker 3: hundred losses and they were the losiness program in college
Speaker 3: football until like a year ago, I think it was
Speaker 3: at Northwestern. I ever took them, and so yeah, they
Speaker 3: go from that seven hundred something losses to the national
Speaker 3: title in a couple of years, it's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and I've heard this and I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's true. You boys would no better than I,
Speaker 2: but that U see turned away Signetti saying he didn't
Speaker 2: have enough experience as a head coach.
Speaker 3: That's correct.
Speaker 1: See is that the reason I've heard you and what
Speaker 1: they're talking about. I had never read any now reasons
Speaker 1: why now?
Speaker 3: To be fair, you know, and again, obviously be fair,
Speaker 3: go ahead. Hindsight is twenty twenty. But I think sure
Speaker 3: there would have been a lot of Bearcat fans had
Speaker 3: they hired Kurt Signetti. And this is back when no
Speaker 3: one knew And I said, wait a minute, we just hired
Speaker 3: a coach from James Mattison who's been in the FBS
Speaker 3: one year. They've been an FCS program for most of
Speaker 3: their tenure in college football. We hired him. Well, and
Speaker 3: that's of course what an athletic director and a hiring
Speaker 3: staff must overlook. And I will say this too, I
Speaker 3: don't know if Kurt Signetti happens at a at a
Speaker 3: more blue blood school, because the scrutiny it would be
Speaker 3: so fierce, you know, at a at a bigger program
Speaker 3: where in Indiana they're like, well, no one gives a
Speaker 3: damn anyway, so let's let's try this, right. They were
Speaker 3: able to kind of roll the dice and go with
Speaker 3: the gut instinct and try it, where other programs it
Speaker 3: would a little bit harder, and maybe you see was
Speaker 3: one of them.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Come on, we had a good run under Luke Fickle obviously,
Speaker 2: which prior to that, you see, I mean, you couldn't
Speaker 2: give away tickets to UC Beartay game before Luke.
Speaker 4: Sickle showed up.
Speaker 2: And I think that, with all due respect to coach Satterfield,
Speaker 2: when he was hired, everyone was like, what why would
Speaker 2: you do that?
Speaker 4: So it's the same sort of like huh yeah kind of.
Speaker 2: But I know he came from Louisville, even though Louisville was,
Speaker 2: at least according to my friends own, they were trying
Speaker 2: to get rid of them when we hired him. So
Speaker 2: I don't know, so Signetti, we could have had Signetti.
Speaker 1: We did it to Rocks Point though, too. He is
Speaker 1: they are a big ten school, so it's it's a
Speaker 1: little easier to get these nil guys to come in
Speaker 1: there and draw on that game.
Speaker 3: And they were also going through the transition. I'm going
Speaker 3: from you know, a group of five team to a
Speaker 3: big twelve team. So that was right, Yeah, it would
Speaker 3: have been quite as seamless as it happened in Indian either.
Speaker 2: It was clear to me that his winning formula, at
Speaker 2: least as far as like what kind of players he attracted,
Speaker 2: were players who were kind of fifty or six year seniors.
Speaker 2: So do you see that replicating itself across you know,
Speaker 2: college football now, like people going, I want to do
Speaker 2: what Signetti did here.
Speaker 3: That is a fantastic observation, Tanya, and I think you're
Speaker 3: absolutely right, and the answer is yes. The average age
Speaker 3: of a player on Indiana's football team was twenty three
Speaker 3: years old. That's the average NFL team, right, that's an
Speaker 3: NFL team. Yes, So well you see that more in
Speaker 3: the future, yes, and that's going to that's going to
Speaker 3: you know, change a lot of things when it comes
Speaker 3: to high school recruiting. You know, like colleges are like
Speaker 3: Indiana version, we're plucking more kids out of the portal
Speaker 3: that played in college than they are out of high school.
Speaker 3: Why because you get an older like like what usually
Speaker 3: wins like an older man or like a younger man, right,
Speaker 3: somebody who's eighteen or twenty three, someone who has experience,
Speaker 3: whose body is now fully developed. And credit curse Signetti
Speaker 3: for recognizing that and using the modern ways of assembling
Speaker 3: a roster that you couldn't have done five years ago. Right,
Speaker 3: he's able to now implement that. We now we can
Speaker 3: get older, more experienced players here and make that the
Speaker 3: bulk of our team. He did it.
Speaker 2: Okay, so he used the system properly. But can I
Speaker 2: just also state that I think this system really is
Speaker 2: broken and needs to be fixed because we're no longer,
Speaker 2: as you just mentioned, we're talking about men playing football here.
Speaker 2: We're not talking about college students playing football anymore. Sure,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the guy who was the quarterback
Speaker 2: for Miami is like, yeah, I graduated two years ago.
Speaker 4: Now I know Joe Burrow did that too, But you know,
Speaker 4: we're now at a point where, like I think, what a.
Speaker 2: High state has like thirty six open positions on its team?
Speaker 2: Ohigh state a blue blood you talk about bluelood organization,
Speaker 2: But all these kids are in the portal and they're
Speaker 2: all just looking for more money or a coach major
Speaker 2: who won't be as hard on them, or whatever they're
Speaker 2: looking for.
Speaker 4: But This has to be utterly exhausting for these schools
Speaker 4: and coaches.
Speaker 2: You have to probably have three times the amount of
Speaker 2: scouts and stuff. Now it's just trying to sort through
Speaker 2: all of this, and it just feels like something needs
Speaker 2: to fix fast or college football is going to be
Speaker 2: in big trouble in a hurry.
Speaker 3: People say that, but I mean the television numbers aren't
Speaker 3: out yet, but I know it's going to be big.
Speaker 3: I would say, what you get with older players, you
Speaker 3: get a cleaner game. I mean, Indiana, I just saw
Speaker 3: a stout on Twitter. I just passed it up. But
Speaker 3: it's like they haven't hadn't lost a fumble and like,
Speaker 3: you know, like a twelve hundred snaps kind of thing.
Speaker 3: So you're getting a older players, more experienced players. You're
Speaker 3: getting a more well played game, if that makes sense,
Speaker 3: you know. And they like that, well, yeah, I agree,
Speaker 3: and that'll you know, I think that'll take some time
Speaker 3: to play out. Do people go, well, they're not really
Speaker 3: college players, but they're not NFL players.
Speaker 1: It's so but it's entertaining.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like NFL junior Now, I mean, what is.
Speaker 3: What is it remains?
Speaker 2: It's it's really interesting to me, and I really think
Speaker 2: you can go into the portal. You can probably you
Speaker 2: should probably only be able to go once and then
Speaker 2: that's it, Like you better make your second choice correctly
Speaker 2: or else you got to sit out or something.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Rock Rocket a story last week about how many times
Speaker 1: did the one kid transferred, like.
Speaker 3: Seven, he's on seventh school in seven years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: That needs to be done a lot with and I
Speaker 3: think I certainly agree with you. I would love to
Speaker 3: see a kid get no matter what, no more than
Speaker 3: you know. I think five should be the max under
Speaker 3: unless under some extraordinary circumstances where you get a you know,
Speaker 3: you tear a and an a c L or something. Okay,
Speaker 3: maybe you get a six year, but a seventh or
Speaker 3: more that that seems a little, a little egregious.
Speaker 2: Can I ask one more question? It's an NFL question,
Speaker 2: it's a Bangal question. Yes, how bombed are you me?
Speaker 2: I know I am as a Bengals fan that if
Speaker 2: we could have at least been at all decent, we
Speaker 2: could have been gone deep into.
Speaker 4: The playoffs this year. There is no no team that
Speaker 4: I look at that are left. Is that exciting? Like? Wow,
Speaker 4: this is a great team. I don't. Maybe I'm wrong there,
Speaker 4: maybe some.
Speaker 1: More you're run and I talked, we had that very
Speaker 1: same discussion Land. We were just talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: we can what ifs, but yeah, they could have they
Speaker 1: could have rocked.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: So then the question becomes, how do the Busno Bills
Speaker 2: fire their coach who's done so well?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, you know the question I'm asking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't. They don't think he was ever going
Speaker 3: to get them over the hump. And the Steelers, I think,
Speaker 3: thought the same thing, is what we want to go
Speaker 3: to the playoffs every year because if you do, then
Speaker 3: then yeah, Mike Tomlin is our coach, you know. But
Speaker 3: they they and I'm not sure even know if I
Speaker 3: agree with them, but they don't feel like he was
Speaker 3: a guy that was ever going to get them past that.
Speaker 3: I think Buffalo thought the same thing. It's it's not
Speaker 3: just good enough for us to go to the playoffs,
Speaker 3: even go deep in the playoffs. We we want we
Speaker 3: feel like we got certainly the quarterback and some elements
Speaker 3: of our roster where we can have a legitimate shot
Speaker 3: at winning a a championship. And they didn't think McDermott
Speaker 3: was a guy to do that. And I also heard
Speaker 3: a report that McDermott in a kind of an end
Speaker 3: of the year meeting with the GM and the owner
Speaker 3: expressed that, hey, I don't I don't think we have
Speaker 3: like our talent is as good as it needs to be.
Speaker 3: And I think they they kind of bulked that a
Speaker 3: little bit, like you telling us, what.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you're a Bengal player, if you're if you're
Speaker 2: a guy who is on the roster for the Bengals,
Speaker 2: how should you be feeling right now looking around?
Speaker 3: What what do you mean in what regard.
Speaker 2: So all these other teams that got further than you were,
Speaker 2: Like all you are out of here because it's not
Speaker 2: good enough.
Speaker 4: You're not doing a good enough job. And Bengals are
Speaker 4: saying we're good enough.
Speaker 2: We got the talent inside the locker room, We got
Speaker 2: the talent inside the building to get us to the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Does does Joe Burrow think that?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't think he does.
Speaker 3: I don't think he does at all. I think that's
Speaker 3: why he keeps, you know, making you know, kind of
Speaker 3: comments and you know, like, hey, we gotta we gotta
Speaker 3: get better here, And he shouldn't feel I don't feel
Speaker 3: like this is this is a roster that obviously obviously
Speaker 3: it's not a roster that I can go to a
Speaker 3: you can go to a super Bowl, and it needs
Speaker 3: to get better, and hopefully it does.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna switch from news to sports. This
Speaker 2: is really fun.
Speaker 3: This is fun, right, Come join us, Tony. This is
Speaker 3: great and we can be talking about ice protests and
Speaker 3: all this, but we get to talk about football today.
Speaker 1: Table.
Speaker 4: That's right there, we go.
Speaker 1: All right, good, well, welcome back to the frigid North.
Speaker 1: Enjoy your memories of the South.
Speaker 2: I all look at the photos every couple of days
Speaker 2: and just remind myself of what when I get in
Speaker 2: the hot shower, I'll be like, oh, that's what it
Speaker 2: felt like.
Speaker 1: See you, buddy. Yeah, thanks Tanya, our good friend Tanya
Speaker 1: Rourke