1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Hey, forty six fifty ft care CD talk station. H 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: I love talking with the doctors from OAHC even as 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: one thing we can universally agree on that does not 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: bear a political stripe and is the ultimate unifier it 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: is that cancer sucks. I don't care what political stripe 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: you are. It does and I'm living it. But you know, 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm in great hands with the doctors from OHC and 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: in house right now one of the great doctors from OHC, 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: doctor ton V. Joe she Is. She is here to 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: talk about cervical cancer because it's Cervical Cancer Awareness Month. 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the studio, doctor Joe she It's a real 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: pleasure having you here. 13 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for having me. I'm passionate 14 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: about this, so excited to be here. 15 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: I know you are. And this is you know, I 16 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: always look for, you know, bright lights and positive things 17 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: to talk about when we're talking about cancer. This is 18 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: one where we can show terrific progress. 19 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 3: Yep, you're exactly right. 20 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: I mean, cervical cancer is almost an entirely preventable disease. 21 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be like polio someday, I hope so. Well, 22 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, and early on when the when the vaccine 23 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: came out, and we're going to talk about a little bit, 24 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: but early on when it came out, you know, get 25 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: much younger man look at life a little bit differently. 26 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: I've got a kind of a, i think, a more 27 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: realistic perspective. The whole idea of giving a young girl 28 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: a vaccine that is related to sexual activity first and 29 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: foremost seen to me kind of like a red flag. 30 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: But I'm completely on board. HPV, the human pabalona virus, 31 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: which is the cause of cancer, right right, exactly right, 32 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: It's everywhere. 33 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: Yep, yep. 34 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: Over eighty percent of you know, men and women in 35 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: the United States have HPV or have had exposure to 36 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: it in their lifetime at some point. 37 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: Right, So you got it. I mean exactly these deniers 38 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: out there, I've seen that the statistics, it's like overwhelming you. 39 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: You just can't avoid it. So knowing that it's everywhere, 40 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 1: getting the vaccine seems the most logical thing since it'll 41 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: stopping women from getting cervical cancer. 42 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right. 43 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let us talk about what causes cervical cancer. 44 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: Well, you know, as you mentioned, one of the biggest 45 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: risk factors is HPV, which is a sexually transmitted virus. 46 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: We already covered the fact that so many women and 47 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: men in the United States have it and even across 48 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: the world. The other risk factors kind of go hand 49 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: in hand with that. So when I think about risk factors, 50 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: you think about what could increase your risk of exposure 51 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: to HPV, And then the other side of it is 52 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 2: also what can decrease your immunity and your immune your 53 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: immune system and your response to HPV as a virus. 54 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: So when it comes to risk factors, you think about, 55 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: you know, sexual activity that could increase your risk of exposure, 56 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: having unprotected sex. When it comes to Burier, contraception can 57 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: increase your risk. And then also anything that decreases your 58 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: immune response, like a disease like HIV or any chronic 59 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 2: medication use that causes immune suppression can increase your risk 60 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: of HPV or maybe. 61 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: Your lymphoma cancer treatments. 62 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: That's certainly yeah. 63 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: Okay, I had to throw in a joke about myself 64 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: in their doctor. So the the HPU related cases ninety 65 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: percent cervical cancer cases. We know, we got that. What 66 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: are the signs and symptoms If you're an unlikely you 67 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: get diagnosed with cerveral cancer. What are women supposed to 68 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: be looking for so they can hurry up and get 69 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: out and see either primary care physician or one of 70 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: the specialists at OHC. 71 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: Right, So, sometimes cervical cancer can be insidious. It can 72 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: present without any symptoms. However, there are some common symptoms 73 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: to look out for, and one of the most important 74 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: ones can be abnormal bleeding. What I mean by that 75 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: is it can be you know, irregular bleeding, so in 76 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: between your periods or after intercourse. It could be just 77 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: really heavy abnormal bleeding that occurs with a period or 78 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: even after a woman is done having periods, such as 79 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: postmuntal puzzle bleeding. Other signs and symptoms include pelvic pain, 80 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: lower abdominal pain, some leg swelling or leg pain, or 81 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: abnormal and persistent discharge. 82 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: All right, So for the woman out there that here 83 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: is that and going, well, yeah, I've been having some 84 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: break breakthrough bleeding, I just write it off. I'm not 85 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: going to go see anybody about it. I because I've 86 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: heard about that my entire life from women anecdotally, and otherwise, 87 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: what's the risk they are running by not seeing someone 88 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: and having them check getting themselves checked out? 89 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 3: Oh? My gosh. I mean that risk is very high. 90 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a number that we can 91 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: put on that, but I will tell you that the 92 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: most most commonly the women that I see that are 93 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: diagnosed with cervical cancer are the ones that have not 94 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: seen a gynocologist in many years, five years, ten years, 95 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: or even. 96 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 3: More than that. 97 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: Okay, coming is a no shock to me. Is it 98 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: an aggressive cancer? 99 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: It is an aggressive cancer, but it is a slow 100 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: growing cancer. What that means is that we can diagnose 101 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: it at early stages even if it develops, as long 102 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 2: as you're seeing your gynocologist or a gyoncologist. 103 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: Okay, is it metastasized? 104 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: It can? 105 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: Geez, that's what that's the big concern right there. I 106 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: mean it's going to spread to your lungs, your kidneys, 107 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: your blood system, your bone. I mean, getting in front 108 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: of it can avoid so much, so much, and it's curable. 109 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 2: Completely curable. First of all, preventable and then secondly curable. 110 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: Just make sure that you see a gent oncologist. 111 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: All right, Well, you walk into the next subject matter, 112 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: what about preventing? How do women what can to help 113 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: them prevent serveral cancer? And don't tell them they never 114 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: have sex because you know, that's not going to happen. 115 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: That's why eighty percent of the adult population has it. 116 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 3: Exactly right, that's not going to happen. 117 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: But actually, there is something that both men and women 118 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: can do with regards to helping wipe out cervical cancer. 119 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: And when I think about prevention, I think, okay, there's 120 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: a primary prevention, which means, how can we potentially even 121 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: reduce exposure to HPV period? 122 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 3: Right? 123 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: How can we prevent getting that virus in the first place, 124 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: and that is through HPV vaccination. Second secondly, the other 125 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 2: way to prevent is by getting routine screenings like PAP tests. 126 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: Of course, Now, yes. 127 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you about the vaccine. 128 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure you will. 129 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: Yes, let's assume for the saying discussion, haven't been happily 130 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: married for the last thirty three years and I've been 131 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: exclusively involved with the same woman for like thirty seven years. Sure, 132 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: if I had it, is it too late to get 133 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: the vaccine? Maybe not me, it's sixty years old. But 134 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: if there's someone out there twenty year old, they may 135 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: be sexually active. A lot of them are here. Is 136 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: it ever too late to get the vaccine, and you 137 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: have to get out in front of it, like having 138 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: being vaccinated early before you engage in sexual activity for 139 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: the first for the first time. 140 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: That's a great question. 141 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: I think that the most useful strategy to prevention of 142 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: HPV is getting out ahead of it first and foremost, 143 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: so get the vaccination. Usually pediatricians and family providers will 144 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: be talking to patients or parents about this. So HPE 145 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: vaccination is ideally given to patients at the age of 146 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 2: eleven to twelve, but it can be given it from 147 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: nine to. 148 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: Forty five years of age. 149 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: So even if after you know, exposure to HPV, if 150 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: a patient has not gotten that vaccination, it's still worth 151 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: it to get it. 152 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: Really, okay, So these are for people beyond the forty 153 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: year old. 154 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: Virgin Yeah, exactly right. 155 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: Does it ever go away? 156 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: Does HPV go away at times? 157 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 2: I mean, if you think about it, it's a virus, 158 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: so the immune system has the chance and. 159 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: Has the ability to clear it. 160 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 2: However, a lot of the time, the way HPV behaves 161 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: is that it remains what we call indolent or you know, 162 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: undetectable levels because of your immune system hiding in the background. Exactly, 163 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: and it can come back, which is what again, you know, 164 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: highlights the importance of routine screening. 165 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: All right, Now, there's different types of HPV, because my 166 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: understanding is HPV causes or can cause, like, for example, 167 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: genital warts. So if you got those days, you go, 168 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: you got HPV. But do it? Does HPV always result 169 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: in that? Or is there different types? 170 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: So HPV has over fifty different strains, but there are 171 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: certain strains that specifically cause cervical cancer and have been 172 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: linked to what we call as a high risk HPV strain. 173 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: And then there's others like you said, that can cause 174 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: just genital warts. And actually the vaccine that we have 175 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: here protects you from nine different strains that have been 176 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: implicated in formation of words, as well as cervical cancer. 177 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: There's another incentive for folks to do the right thing 178 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: and get a vaccine. Let's get an HPV out of 179 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: our system. Now, what are the options for treatments for 180 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: folks who are who are diagnosed with cervical cancer? 181 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: So really that treatment depends upon the type of cancer 182 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: that they have, so in other words, what the cancer 183 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: actually looks like under the microscope, and then also the 184 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 2: stage of cancer, as in how far has it spread. 185 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: All right, so traditional things like chemotherapy, radiation, immunotherapy that 186 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: it's all in the arsenal, but you can deal with it. Yet, 187 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: the earlier it's detective, the more likely it is it's 188 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: not going to take your life. Any clinical trials. I 189 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: always have to ask bect clinical trials because you haven't 190 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: gone on all the time. 191 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is true. 192 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: So OEC has a robust, you know, set of clinical 193 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: trials available for gynecologic cancers. We currently have something in 194 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: the pipeline for cervical cancer specifically, so in the world 195 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 2: of you know, what's next for cervical cancer after it's 196 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: already developed, we are starting to get more into targeted treatments, 197 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: so something that's car P not quite carte but similar 198 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: to it, though we don't have that specifically for HPV 199 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: or is for cervical cancer yet. 200 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, right. 201 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: They work on that low spectrum Lymphoe McCarty all right, 202 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: because I don't want to get these damn bags of 203 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: chemo on who are doctor Tom vy Josie one of 204 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: the outstanding physicians you'll find at OHC. 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