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Speaker 1: Jackson in the studio. Wasn't some people just call me

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Speaker 1: jack nasty? Oh? Some people did? You can? You still

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Speaker 1: can if you'd like I thought you said you didn't

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Speaker 1: like that. I don't care. You can call me whatever

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Speaker 2: You know, in this business sometimes getting the phone to

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Speaker 1: How are you, man?

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Speaker 3: You don't even me in just business, I mean just friends.

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Speaker 3: Just give me a call. Man, You actually like talking

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Speaker 3: on the phone? I do, but you don't do it much.

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Speaker 3: Nobody does it.

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Speaker 1: I don't like talking on the phone. Why it's not

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Speaker 3: Guy?

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Speaker 1: What about when you were a kid?

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Speaker 3: What if you had a crush, did you talk on

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Speaker 2: Says even that's not a fair assessment because when I

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Speaker 2: as an adult with a cell phone that context, I

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Speaker 2: would much better have a text conversation with somebody, even

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Speaker 2: long form text conversation.

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Speaker 1: Long form.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine with it, don't. I don't like talking

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Speaker 3: Of us say just just jump on the phone and

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Speaker 3: what I'm trying to type here. It would just be

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Speaker 3: easier to have a five minute conversation. No, but you

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Speaker 2: I think that's part of it. Why is I talk

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Speaker 2: for example, in Boston, he wants to have these long

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Speaker 2: form conversations because we had to catch up every so often.

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Speaker 2: And but he knows during football season and he's a musician,

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Speaker 2: so like, he doesn't care, he's a bass players, He's

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Speaker 2: that it's gonna be few and far between that I'm

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Speaker 2: really wants to talk to me, he's gonna text me,

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Speaker 2: and then we'll have long form text conversations.

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Speaker 1: Is it the same when you're at home with your

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Speaker 1: wife or you like just text me?

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Speaker 2: Oh, come on, I'm not I'm not an animal. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I'm also going to freak yourself in here.

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Speaker 1: You know I'm not. I'm not a cold hearted person.

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Speaker 1: What about just like an old friend? Nope? Still no, never, No, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm good. They know they get it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you feel yourself drifting away from people.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going to the caps of here.

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Speaker 1: I do not, I do not.

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Speaker 2: I have my I am my circle of friends, which

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Speaker 1: And then some work friends, which is the next circle.

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Speaker 1: And I'm happy. Yeah, how about you?

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you feel like as we turn the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do you like phone always?

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Speaker 3: But there's there's you know, a handful of friends where

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Speaker 3: to talk. Yeah, I will call my mom. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm not And I don't even know what long

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Speaker 3: But then there's jokes and and chokes are easier to deliver.

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Speaker 1: With your with your mouth than there are with.

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Speaker 3: Text, do you put haha at the end of a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, context is lost with text, A little bit context.

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Speaker 3: I context, and I will I'll text you later.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Well, I look forward to hear from you, but

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Speaker 1: To text right away. Oh and I'm not gonna call

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Speaker 2: You are saying there's a group of people, athletes, especially

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Speaker 3: And I imagine it's because they get hit up all

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Speaker 3: But also, if you text back right away to start

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Speaker 1: No, nothing's wrong. I just didn't look at the phone.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to respond that quickly to everything. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Are you trying to tell me already you need space?

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Speaker 2: Definitely yeah, No, it's already Seinfeldian kind of thing, like, No,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be right on my phone because

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to play hard to get with you, right

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Speaker 1: it is it working? It is? No, Listen now, I

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Speaker 2: So like you know, for example, this Sunday, our cover

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Speaker 2: I am not talking on the phones to anybody, no

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Speaker 1: They all know at that point. Yeah, he's not going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But the worst part and then we we'll move

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Speaker 2: Like most people reach out and text, but that if

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Speaker 2: I do answer because I'm like, what happened?

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Speaker 1: Who died? And then they're like nothing. I just want

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Speaker 3: Do you ever feel bad when you see someone calling

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Speaker 2: But if they call me an off time, most of

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Speaker 2: maybe I've embraced the what is it? Probably gen alpha

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Speaker 2: I can't I can't keep track of them. My kids

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Speaker 2: millennial money, that's where I'm at. Yeah, that's where'm at.

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Speaker 3: I think you're I think you're gen X the millennial

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Speaker 1: Well that's kind of a.

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Speaker 3: It's it hurts, It hurts a little bit. I'm on

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Speaker 2: You're gonna break Grant's heart. No, no, no, I'm look, he

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Speaker 3: That's his nickname, Millennial Grant, which is better, better, better

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Speaker 2: True, basically basically, Yeah, I think this is the litmus

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Speaker 1: That literally just a landline that rings. No. I used

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Speaker 2: I used to just give out the landline to everybody

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to talk to or you know whatever,

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Makes no sense. Well, you never know when you'll

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Speaker 2: It's like like judgment aake coming to a.

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Speaker 1: Cell phone, towers, whatever. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: phone and it was like full on panic. Yeah, Like

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Speaker 2: didn't know what to do, and I'm like, well, you

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Speaker 2: could have just gone outside and like, you know, touch

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Speaker 2: some grass, I don't know what, Like, it's gonna be fine,

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Speaker 2: and like, well, we couldn't get on the internet.

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Speaker 1: We couldn't do anything. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The dependence is troubling. Yeah, that all of us experience

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Speaker 3: on a daily basis. I mean, you think your phone's

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Speaker 3: in your pocket and you touch it and it's not there.

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Speaker 2: Panic, panic, Yeah, but you're gonna be fine. Okay, there

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Speaker 2: you go. Officially from Nate Jackson.

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Speaker 3: But to round this out, yeah, athletes are pretty poor

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Speaker 1: But we're trying. Are you trying, though? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Dobbins after the game said, we talked about this that

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Speaker 1: And that is actually we're going to come back to.

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Speaker 2: He's joining us right now. Pat, you know, with Ryan

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Speaker 1: How are you, man, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 4: Ideaing doing great?

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Speaker 1: Are you on the bus on the way to the

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: How excited are you guys about this game and the

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Speaker 4: Very excited. I think it's a good opportunity for us

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Speaker 4: great team in Shiley. You know, obviously we know it's

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Speaker 3: So Pat, talk a little bit about the matchups you got.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, we just got to proach a snap by

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Speaker 2: I know that you're playing in the secondary, but we

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Speaker 2: How much does that factor into what you're doing in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it affects it a lot because we

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Speaker 3: So, so you guys are heading out Friday, sometimes you

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I know where we leave Friday

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to this quickly.

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Speaker 1: This question is from Hope.

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 1: My name is Hope and I'm ten years old and

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Speaker 1: I have a question for you. If you had to

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Speaker 4: Reality TV show that's going because last year, I know

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Speaker 4: I got quite the bush hole, but uh, let me

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 4: I already watched much reality TV and I probably got

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Speaker 4: I don't know, probably like Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Shore or something.

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Speaker 1: There we go.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna bail you out with like the Batchelor

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Bash of Love. I think I think I'm

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Speaker 2: All right, Jersey Shore, get in the club, Little Jim

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no doubt, alright, experienced that.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Pat, we appreciate you. I know you guys are

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Speaker 2: on your way out and we'll chat with you next week.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Passer Tan on the bus not a great

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Speaker 1: place for the interview because you got all the dudes

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know, you know, yeah, right, all a little

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Speaker 2: me as an interviewer in the locker room, there's moments

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Speaker 3: Vases and some jerk messing it up, being unprofessional while

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Speaker 1: To do my job, that was usually me.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I used to like to tease you guys a little bit,

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Speaker 1: We need it. Yeah, you guys do very serious in there.

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Speaker 1: I know, too serious.

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Speaker 3: We're all naked, man, Well that part, I mean, are

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Speaker 2: I've never liked that part. I've never, ever, ever, ever

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Speaker 1: Why don't they just change it permanently?

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Speaker 2: Well, I know the PA has been pushing for that

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Speaker 1: Wow, you guys are changing. There is and I don't

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, Like, and I'm not trying

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Speaker 2: the Broncos just went on a string of losses and

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden they're goofing around in the

443
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Speaker 2: locker room and there's someone laughing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're not supposed to be unacceptable. It's not like

445
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Speaker 5: you'd say that, but you just get a sense of

446
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Speaker 5: what it is. But you can still do all those

447
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Speaker 5: things and not have the interview. You can say, hey,

448
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Speaker 5: can you can we go out into the hallway. I

449
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Speaker 5: think that's completely appropriate.

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Speaker 2: And for me, just for me, I like it better

451
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Speaker 2: that way because I get cleaner audio. That is like

452
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Speaker 2: a more me thing as an audio guy, because as

453
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Speaker 2: we're even listening there with with Pat, we have to

454
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Speaker 2: get peeked behind the curtain, be listening.

455
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Speaker 1: For the background. If somebody decides to drop some.

456
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Speaker 3: Kind of language just to right right right right, yeah,

457
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Speaker 3: and they might not have been trying to mess with you.

458
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Speaker 3: They're just having a conversation amongst themselves. They don't know

459
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Speaker 3: Pat is on an actual interview. They might just think

460
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Speaker 3: he's talking on the phone. You wouldn't be talking on

461
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Speaker 3: the phone. He'd be texting long form. But Pat might

462
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Speaker 3: just be talking to someone. They're not listening to Pad,

463
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,840
Speaker 3: they're talking to each other, and then they throw out

464
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Speaker 3: an F bomb and you've got an SEC violation on

465
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Speaker 3: your hands.

466
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Speaker 2: So we had to be very careful about that. And

467
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Speaker 2: we don't want to We don't want to lose anything

468
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Speaker 2: anymore that we have. If you had to be on

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Speaker 2: a reality TV show, Nate Jackson, what would it be.

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Speaker 3: Well, I have been on a reality TV show and

471
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Speaker 3: no one's gonna remember this reality TV show. It was

472
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Speaker 3: a dating show. And this was back in the early

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Speaker 3: two thousands. It was called rendezvuw Okay. It only lasted

474
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Speaker 3: for a couple of seasons. It was it was a

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Speaker 3: dating show.

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Speaker 1: Okay. They paired me with a with a gal. We

477
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Speaker 1: went on a date and they.

478
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Speaker 3: Had cameras in our faces and tried to get us

479
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Speaker 3: drunk and make us talk about things we would have

480
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Speaker 3: never talked about on a first date.

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Speaker 1: There's producers there who you know.

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Speaker 3: You take a break and then the producer will come

483
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Speaker 3: up and tell you, yeah, this is you're doing great,

484
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Speaker 3: and they split you up to have this conversation.

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Speaker 1: You're doing great, You guys are awesome.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you ask her if she's ever had a

487
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Speaker 3: one night stand?

488
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Speaker 1: God?

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Speaker 3: Okay, right, So that's why on these dating shows they

490
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Speaker 3: have these conversations. It's not normal to have these conversations.

491
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Speaker 3: But someone you just met, unless there's a producer getting

492
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Speaker 3: you liquored up and feeding you the lines, would she

493
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Speaker 3: ask you the same question similarly awkward ones? Yeah, or

494
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Speaker 3: at least was prepared for those that line of questioning.

495
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Speaker 3: I mean, all the wholesome stuff, that get to know

496
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Speaker 3: you stuff, the really nice stuff that we had, they

497
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Speaker 3: didn't make the show. The stuff that made the show

498
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Speaker 3: was the salacious stuff, of course. And then they have

499
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Speaker 3: editorial control to edit anything you say or make it

500
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Speaker 3: look a different way, or edit something you said at

501
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Speaker 3: the end of the day dates at the very beginning,

502
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Speaker 3: like you just met and then you told that really

503
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Speaker 3: bad joke that was really told after you'd been together

504
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Speaker 3: for nine hours.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that was your last foray into reality TV.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

507
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Speaker 3: And then the girl that I went on that show with,

508
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Speaker 3: I saw her on like two more dating shows. She

509
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Speaker 3: was a serial dating show. What participant did you feel

510
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Speaker 3: a little bitrayed?

511
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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 2: Well.

513
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Speaker 1: We remained Facebook friends. Really.

514
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Speaker 3: Now she's happily married, she's got a couple of kids, so.

515
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Speaker 2: I'm happy for her. Okay, good for her. She found love.

516
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Speaker 2: Is she still doing the circuit? I don't think some

517
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Speaker 2: of the circuits? No, love is blind Denver?

518
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, not doing that.

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Speaker 3: It was blind date was kind of the the first one,

520
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Speaker 3: you know now, I don't know, do you remember that?

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Speaker 2: Ye?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And and a lot of them were modeled

523
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Speaker 3: in a way off like third wheel blind date, like

524
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Speaker 3: little things that kind of were in the same wheelhouse.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: But those were pop there for a while, and I

527
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Speaker 1: and I agreed to do one. How did we don't

528
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Speaker 1: have so many questions?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't have enough time, darn, but very

530
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Speaker 2: oh gosh, but very quickly.

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Speaker 1: How did you get into that?

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Speaker 3: I was walking into a bar in Hollywood, of course,

533
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Speaker 3: on my birthday. I was twenty two years old, and

534
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Speaker 3: some like scout person who goes around bars and Hollywood

535
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Speaker 3: approached me and asked me if I'd be interested in

536
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Speaker 3: this and gave me their card, and I gave him

537
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Speaker 3: my number and they said, no, this is like the

538
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Speaker 3: blind Date show, but it's the classier version. Oh okay,

539
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Speaker 3: you know, oh okay.

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Speaker 1: So they called parents right now. Yeah, they called me and.

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Speaker 3: You know, asked me to come in and I did,

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Speaker 3: and I filled out a but you had to dress

543
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Speaker 3: like you were going out, and filled out a bunch

544
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Speaker 3: of you know, a big long questionnaire and then did

545
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Speaker 3: like a sample sort of on camera interview to see

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Speaker 3: if you were entertaining personality enough to be able to hold,

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Speaker 3: you know, a conversation.

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Speaker 1: And then and then I went home and uh.

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Speaker 3: And then like three four weeks later, they called me

550
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Speaker 3: and said we found your perfect girl, and like how's

551
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Speaker 3: and this was like a Monday is like how's Wednesday sound?

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Speaker 1: I'm like okay.

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Speaker 3: So I was living in LA at the time, training

554
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Speaker 3: for my senior year of college football. But I was

555
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Speaker 3: staying in a friend's apartment who went to USC and

556
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Speaker 3: that neighborhood in USC is not very nice.

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Speaker 1: We had like bars on the door and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: And I remember like pacing back and forth in the

559
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Speaker 3: apartment like what am I doing?

560
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Speaker 1: Why am I doing this? What am I doing?

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Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden knock at the door,

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Speaker 3: and it was the producer who came to the door

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Speaker 3: first to just kind of be like, Okay, here's what

564
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Speaker 3: we're gonna do. She's in the car, she's gonna come

565
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Speaker 3: out here in a second. And her name was Mimi. Okay,

566
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Speaker 3: not the producer, but my day. And then a couple

567
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Speaker 3: of minutes later, me and me came to the door

568
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Speaker 3: and like knocked on the bars like the and then

569
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Speaker 3: started our day and we went all around LA.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it didn't work out. Yeah, I know

571
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Speaker 1: what would have thought?

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Speaker 2: I got Nate jackson Is Studio right back. There was

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Speaker 2: want to. All right, So let's talk about from the

583
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Speaker 2: defensive side of things for a second. How are you

584
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Speaker 2: how are you trying to shut down? I guess more specifically,

585
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Speaker 2: what are you focusing the most on?

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Speaker 1: When it comes to the Eagles offense, it's gotta be

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 3: You know, of course, take one, Barkley scares you in

589
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Speaker 3: a way just because he's a really good back. But

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Speaker 3: it's not like, you know, it's an he's he presents

591
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Speaker 3: an unusual schematic challenge, whereas Jalen Hurts does he's just

592
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Speaker 3: kind of really savvy taking off using his legs. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he rushed for I think sixteen yards last week on

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Speaker 3: nine carries, and he just has a really you know,

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Speaker 3: unusual skill to be able to pick up those yardage,

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Speaker 3: get out of bounds, get down, not get hit. Uh

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Speaker 3: and and so I think that's the challenge to make

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Speaker 3: him uncomfortable, to make him stand in the pocket, keep

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Speaker 3: him in there.

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Speaker 1: But then you also don't want to just like.

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Speaker 3: Let him hang in the pocket because he's got some weapons.

602
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Speaker 3: And so there's this weird fine line because you know,

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Speaker 3: a couple a couple of years back. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you remember this, but Lamar Jackson came to town

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Speaker 3: and Vic Vangeo's game plan was to do the mush rush.

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Speaker 1: I remember the mushruve. I remember the mush rush.

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Speaker 3: It runs with tush push, but uh, the mush rush

608
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Speaker 3: wasn't working that day.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: The idea was because Lamar Jackson is a really effective runner.

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Speaker 1: You want to kind of clog up those lanes. Don't

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Speaker 1: really you know.

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Speaker 3: Do a lot of twisting and and and scheming up

614
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Speaker 3: your attack of him, but really just everyone kind of

615
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Speaker 3: push your guy back and hold him in the pocket.

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Speaker 3: Well they did that, and he picked him Apart from

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Speaker 3: the pocket. Some people kind of disregard Jalen Hurst's ability

618
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Speaker 3: to throw the football for some reason, but he's a

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion, super Bowl MVP, right, was he the MVP?

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Speaker 1: He was the MVP.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, So you got to respect his legs and

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Speaker 3: you gotta respect his arm. And so I think the

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Speaker 3: defensive game plan and how they approach containing Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 3: and making him a one dimensional player and taking one

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Speaker 3: of those away, and.

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Speaker 1: I think you want to try to take away his legs.

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Speaker 1: That'll be the challenge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that feels like if there's going to be a

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Speaker 2: focus and again, you're right, he can't pick you apart

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Speaker 2: in the passing year. But that hasn't been great for

631
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Speaker 2: them so far. But you also don't want to be

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Speaker 2: the team that wakes that up either. You don't want

633
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Speaker 2: to all of a sudden, it's like, oh, boys, Sakwon

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Speaker 2: Barkley got back on track, and oh and all of

635
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Speaker 2: a sudden, A J. Brown had a big game, and

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Speaker 2: so did Devonte Smith And it looks like they're going

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Speaker 2: to have.

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Speaker 1: Their full compliment to everybody.

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Speaker 2: I'll look at the practice report moments ago and yeah,

640
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Speaker 2: I mean, Dallas Goddard, Everybody's gonna be out there for them.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it presents multiple challenges that they're a

642
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Speaker 2: really good team for a reason, I'm inclined to agree

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Speaker 2: with you. The only thing that you do wonder about

644
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Speaker 2: for the Broncos like where are you most susceptible at?

645
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Speaker 2: Because this is what good coaching is, right, They're going

646
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Speaker 2: to find the thing that they believe is your weakness.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason why they have multiple block field goals

648
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Speaker 2: or multiple block kicks or punts like they had this

649
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Speaker 2: last week is because they spend all week studying and saying, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: look at that one guy. That one guy is the

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Speaker 2: guy we're gonna target, and we're gonna we're gonna bull

652
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Speaker 2: rush him. And happened last year with the Kansas City game. Yeah,

653
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Speaker 2: we got a bull rush on one of your offensive linemen,

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Speaker 2: I think it was Forsyth and then ended up getting

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Speaker 2: a block field goal. So I wonder if you're the

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Speaker 2: Eagles offense, what will be that point of attack. It

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Speaker 2: feels to me like it's our inside linebackers and especially

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Speaker 2: in coverage. But that's gonna be a problem all season now,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 1: It is? And I think, you know, particularly.

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Speaker 3: Alex Singleton coming off in a cl he's getting better

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Speaker 3: every week.

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Speaker 1: I think he's becoming more himself. So you know, I

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Speaker 1: think I don't think he's.

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Speaker 3: As bad as some people are are acting like he

666
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Speaker 3: is in coverage. And that said, I don't think Saquon

667
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: Barkley is a particularly potent pass threat, not really, you

668
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Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like he's a really good running back,

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Speaker 3: but he's not some joker type of running back. And

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Speaker 3: so I don't think, you know, Alex Singleton's gonna have

671
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Speaker 3: too much trouble there now always a challenge, and I

672
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Speaker 3: don't think they'll put him, you know, Manna man on

673
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Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley too much. But when they do, I think

674
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Speaker 3: he'll be up for the task. But it's like, you know,

675
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: the Broncos are leading the league in sacks. They have

676
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: to get after Jalen Hurts and not give him much time.

677
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: We will advance Joseph decide to blitz a lot to

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Speaker 3: do that, or will he drop back in coverage and

679
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Speaker 3: do some zone stuff. I mean Vic Fangio is the

680
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: king of zone coverage and and so the Broncos offense

681
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: is going to get a lot of that. What will

682
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: vance Joseph dial up? I think it's a combination. But

683
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Speaker 3: I think you're gonna You're gonna have to put pressure

684
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Speaker 3: on Jalen Hurts if you allow him to sit back there,

685
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: nobody can cover anyone for very long. And and what

686
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Speaker 3: you mentioned there about awakening the beast, you know a

687
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: j Brown is not going to be unproductive forever. You know,

688
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: those guys are at some point going to get uncorked.

689
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Speaker 3: And and so there's a couple of different ways to

690
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: look at the offensive ineptitude and their ability to win. Anyway,

691
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: it's that oh, when they finally do start clicking look

692
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Speaker 3: out because they found a way to win in spite

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Speaker 3: of these bad offensive performances, or they're just not that

694
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: good this year. They've gotten some lucky endings and they're

695
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: really probably gonna fade once they start, you know, blocked,

696
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: when they stop blocking kicks and whatnot. Either the way

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at it, for these Broncos, you played Mike

698
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 3: Tyson spunge out. Oh yeah, rubbed it last week. The

699
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: Broncos fought Glass Joe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, good analogie.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they're they're facing Iron Mike on Sunday. They

702
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: got to be patient in the first round. They try

703
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: for the knockout blow, they're gonna get knocked out. You

704
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: got to be patient, stick with your game plan, and

705
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: if you stick with it, you can wear them down

706
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: and you could beat Iron Mike. But it's a much

707
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Speaker 3: different competition and it's a much different set of guys.

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Speaker 1: It's in hostile territory.

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Speaker 3: You're going to Philly where where they're going to be

710
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 3: saying things to you and about your family that's going

711
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: to make you want to curl up in a ball

712
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Speaker 3: and cry.

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Speaker 1: But you can't cry. It's no place to cry. They

714
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,239
Speaker 1: boots Santa Claus. There exactly, they boot Santa Claus. They

715
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Speaker 1: cheered the guys who get hurt. Yes, they do. No mercy,

716
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Speaker 1: there's no mercy. It's not so fine.

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Speaker 3: Where everyone's doing long form texting during the show.

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Speaker 1: You like that?

719
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Speaker 2: Huh long form blog form blog form texting. Well, they

720
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: should be watching the game. But yeah, you're right, people

721
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: are on their phones. It's probably a little too much.

722
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they show up in the second quarter and

723
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Speaker 3: leave in the third.

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Speaker 1: Traffic. I would never do that on the four or five, Yeah,

725
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Speaker 1: I would. I would never do that.

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Speaker 2: But you're right, it's not it's not the warm and

727
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Speaker 2: cuddly crowd, you know, so Fi versus Yeah, Philly, it's

728
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Speaker 2: that that's a completely different deal. I thought you brought

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Speaker 2: up a really good point there, specifically on are they

730
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Speaker 2: who they've been or like this is going to be

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Speaker 2: who they are for a little while longer, or are

732
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Speaker 2: they just kind of waiting.

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Speaker 1: For to be in locks?

734
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Speaker 2: Right, because we know we know what this iteration of

735
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Speaker 2: this offense with this quarterback, these receivers and this running

736
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Speaker 2: back look like when they're at peak performance. It's different

737
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator now, so maybe when we come back and

738
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Speaker 2: want to get into that just a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: You know, you just left it all out on the field.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever cry after a game? I cried after

741
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Speaker 1: one game. Yeah, but it was because I was just

742
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Speaker 1: exhausted and.

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Speaker 3: My dad like was down on the field and he

744
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: came up and gave me a hug and I just

745
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: was kind of just weeping. That'll do it in his

746
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Speaker 3: in his arms.

747
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

748
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Speaker 3: We lost by two points. Scored four touchdowns and I

749
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Speaker 3: threw one.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

751
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Speaker 3: I had like fifteen catches for two sixty something. What yeah?

752
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: Wait what Yeah? And you lost by two points. Yeah,

753
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: so the game of your life.

754
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we lost. It came out like five yards

755
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: short and the last play.

756
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Speaker 1: Of the game.

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Speaker 3: It was heartbreaking and I was physically just absolutely done.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking of crying right now. Seriously, I'm getting teared

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Speaker 1: up a little bit. That's that's a tense man. Yeah,

760
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Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was statistically the best game

761
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Speaker 1: I ever had. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can't imagine many people, whatever whatever walk of

763
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Speaker 2: life or job you have in your life, imagining a

764
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Speaker 2: four touchdown performance, five touchdown performance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, an extra point.

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Speaker 3: I was a kicker that year too, kicked a couple

767
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Speaker 3: extra points.

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Speaker 1: Oh it was. It was this like eight man football.

769
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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was playing D three, but we played

771
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Speaker 3: at University of San Diego, which was a D one

772
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Speaker 3: double A school, and Jim Harbor would end up coaching

773
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Speaker 3: there in the next year. There are two years after that,

774
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 3: but uh, the Terrero's I think their mascot was. But

775
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: now it was just like one of the you know,

776
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: the best games I had and we lost it and

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Speaker 3: I wept like a baby.

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with that whatsoever. I want you

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Speaker 1: to know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even I think that's great. Yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah, well, I mean I remember last year

782
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: or was it two years ago with Caleb Williams when

783
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Speaker 2: he was crying in the stands with his parents and everything,

784
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: and people are like, oh, well, you know, quarterbacks and

785
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: men shouldn't cry. It's like, hey man, it's it's overwhelming,

786
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: like you're doing this and this, or the physical exertion

787
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: of it and losing like.

788
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: He lost it can take its toll.

789
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Speaker 3: Football is an emotional game and you put so much

790
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: into it and if you do leave it all out there,

791
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: you never know what can come out. I mean, the

792
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: problem with the Caleb, you know, Killer Williams and the

793
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks and the way it is now, the cameras are

794
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: on you. You can't escape it. You can't have a

795
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: private moment. That's right, and if you do, but I

796
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: think it was more to Caleb Williams. And then it's

797
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: that one incident, you know, like if he wasn't painting

798
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: his fingernails paint and doing.

799
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Speaker 1: Other stuff like that too. A problem with that.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with it personally, but when

801
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: you're trying to get into this macho world and convince

802
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 3: people you're going to be this leader of men that

803
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: it can make people pause.

804
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: And people on like First Take have a problem with it.

805
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: You know. There's a lot of yelling that happens on

806
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: that show. Yes, but they don't bring it down real low.

807
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. That's like this spot on actually yeah,

808
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 2: And and you look for those things.

809
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: They especially look for those day.

810
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 2: I think media in general looks for reasons to break

811
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: down people, right for example in that And I don't

812
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: want to get off too far on the tangent here,

813
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: but I just want to say that I personally, if

814
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: you can play the position at a high level, and

815
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: you can help a team win. I don't think any

816
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: of that matters personally, but I understand that, you know, hey,

817
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: in the locker room, and we haven't come that far

818
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: yet where there's acceptance of some of those emotional sides

819
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Speaker 2: of men.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think that's true.

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Speaker 3: I think as far as you know, maybe the media

822
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: and the and the conversation around it, but you know,

823
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: you will guys in the locker room crying in their

824
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: locker after again, it's not a problem, right.

825
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: No, no, no, oh good, absolutely not.

826
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Speaker 3: I think guys, you know, because they care that much,

827
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 3: you know, and maybe they're frustrated or something. And you know,

828
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: a lot of guys like you never know what they're carrying.

829
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: In to that moment.

830
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: Maybe they have some stuff going on with their family, sure,

831
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Speaker 3: you know, maybe they just lost a family member, maybe

832
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: their mom or their dad is sick, maybe their.

833
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: Kid is going through something.

834
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: You know, and you take it out there and then

835
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 3: you try to forget it, and for those three hours

836
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 3: you get to, but then you walk off that field

837
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: and it all comes flooding back. Life just comes right

838
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: back into you and you remember everything you're going through.

839
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: And so I think that those displays of emotion for

840
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 3: a player amongst his teammates is not that unusual and

841
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: not frowned upon either. I think it's from without, you know,

842
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: the guys who are the people who are not playing,

843
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: who are judging what's a guy supposed to do in

844
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: this situation.

845
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: Well, what you're

846
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: Supposed to do and what actually happens or what you

847
00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: do are often different