WEBVTT - EITM interviews Return To Dust

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, return to Dusk will be at the film Bore

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow night with Mammoth and Miles Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Please welcome return to dust.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi boys, Hello, how are we today?

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<v Speaker 3>Good?

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<v Speaker 4>We just played a show last night in Charlotte, rolling

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<v Speaker 4>in this morning, bright and early.

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<v Speaker 2>So can I ask you this? Can I ask you this?

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<v Speaker 1>At some point you guys were like, sweet, Monday is

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<v Speaker 1>an off day on the tour.

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<v Speaker 2>This is great, this is great. We'll go in, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>go do radio.

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<v Speaker 3>I already know, man, and it'll be great.

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<v Speaker 1>At what point were you guys like, oh, crap, we

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<v Speaker 1>had an off day.

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<v Speaker 2>We could have slept all day.

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<v Speaker 1>I think whost last night last night?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's a day to day kind of thing on tour,

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<v Speaker 5>and then you only realized the ramifications of of the

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<v Speaker 5>next day the day previous.

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<v Speaker 2>So who who drove last night?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was a mixture of London and stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>mostly stuff or tour men in.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, all right? Yeah? So now what would a

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<v Speaker 2>normal off day from the tour be?

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<v Speaker 4>Usually just a drive day and you get into the

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<v Speaker 4>next city at like, I don't know, five, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you have the rest of the evening to just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of relax a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now are you guys, would you typically go run

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<v Speaker 1>around a city and go sight seeing or just touring

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<v Speaker 1>not allow for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes if you have enough time.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it really really depends on the on the off day,

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<v Speaker 5>like how much time you have, how much distance between

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<v Speaker 5>the last city and stuff. Yeah, but I like to

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<v Speaker 5>even on like show days, I just want to like

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<v Speaker 5>walk around the city and just like grab a coffee

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<v Speaker 5>or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And I did listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys have been through here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at number of times and then through the area number

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<v Speaker 1>of times. But I would still think, like just getting

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<v Speaker 1>out and doing stuff would I guess, be fun as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to just I don't know, just sitting backstage and

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<v Speaker 1>hang it out.

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<v Speaker 2>That also sounds like it could be fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, we tried to.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like you guys are going pretty hard

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this tour in particular is very like back to

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<v Speaker 5>back to back to back. But some tours are a

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<v Speaker 5>lot more lax than others on the amounts of like

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<v Speaker 5>days off and stuff. Like we did a run with

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<v Speaker 5>Breaking Benjamin in three days Grace and there were a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of off days on it, and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of room. They'll just like explore the city or just

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<v Speaker 5>like have a really lax off day something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So why is this one?

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<v Speaker 1>So this one is obviously with Mammoth and with with

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<v Speaker 1>Miles Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why is this one? Why is this one that

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<v Speaker 2>much more jammed in than like when with Breaking Benjamin.

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<v Speaker 3>So tours are just routed differently.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean like they're just it's a different production, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>playing different sized rooms.

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<v Speaker 3>It's different bands.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like some bands just like to work a lot

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<v Speaker 5>harder or like to get some more stuff in, and

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<v Speaker 5>we're totally cool with it. We're just we're along for

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<v Speaker 5>the ride.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't get any input. You don't get to

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<v Speaker 1>go like hey, wolf you know, it would be kind

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<v Speaker 1>of no. I'll tell you what the Breaking Benjamin guys do.

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<v Speaker 1>They like stretch it out a little bit and soak

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<v Speaker 1>it all in and then when we're just cranking and

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<v Speaker 1>cranking and it'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Go Like I was looking at the schedule, you guys

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<v Speaker 2>go hard for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I felt like we just did. We just went

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<v Speaker 3>hard for a while.

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<v Speaker 5>We just did like one thousand miles fifteen miles across

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<v Speaker 5>the country in like three days or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>It was, Oh, we've been touring so much this year,

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<v Speaker 4>which super grateful for. We've probably played like god, probably

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<v Speaker 4>like one hundred and fifty shows probably more this year. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, we've definitely been going at it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, like for the and we'll we'll

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get back to this tour in a second. But

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<v Speaker 1>like if you go back and go, you've done that

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<v Speaker 1>many shows this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is great. I hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>When did when did touring earn it? Like in real

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<v Speaker 1>earnest start? How far back do we go?

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<v Speaker 4>Last summer, our very first tour was with Chevelle, Right, awesome, guys,

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<v Speaker 4>that was a really great tour. And yeah, we we

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<v Speaker 4>were just all of us were just kind of working

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<v Speaker 4>day jobs and until we could figure out how to

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<v Speaker 4>make touring the you know, the full thing, and that

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<v Speaker 4>tour kind of kicked it off.

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<v Speaker 3>It was honestly, we had two we had two lined up.

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<v Speaker 4>It was one with Chevelle and one with seven Dust,

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<v Speaker 4>And I feel like that really kicked down the door

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<v Speaker 4>and we just started basically touring NonStop for probably the

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<v Speaker 4>next year and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess yeah, because there was last summer.

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<v Speaker 1>So but and I mean this in a nice way.

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<v Speaker 1>We've only been on the road like touring. Like obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have played shows and stuff like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>actually going out on the road and touring and really

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<v Speaker 1>getting to expose your music has only been a year

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. Yeah, And it's not like it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like you've played with any slouches. It's I mean they've

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<v Speaker 1>all been big bands and big tours everything from whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's Billy Corgan to like you said, Chevelle or going

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<v Speaker 1>out with with seven Dust and breaking Benjamin. Like in

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half, that ain't bad at all,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's really really like no, no, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like I don't feel like that's that's normal,

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you talk to other bands that have that,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way that's a normal trajectory.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, we definitely had a kind of abnormal situation.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like we, uh, you know, we started just

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<v Speaker 5>Graham and I whenever we moved out to Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 5>like six years ago, and we just spent.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't blow that story yet, because I'm obsessed with that story.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I'm more.

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<v Speaker 1>Obsessed with Seb's story, okay than your story. But we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get that we'll get there.

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<v Speaker 5>That's typical. That's typical. The people love seb Yeah, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>Do we want to get there?

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<v Speaker 3>Editor?

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<v Speaker 2>No, not yet yet? No, no, but just just how

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<v Speaker 2>did it get to? How?

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<v Speaker 1>How does Chevelle be the first band that you end

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<v Speaker 1>up going And like you said, it was either going

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<v Speaker 1>to be Chevelle or seven Dust, which is great, So.

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<v Speaker 5>You see, I was just getting there, Like I guess,

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<v Speaker 5>we spent a lot of our time just writing our

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<v Speaker 5>songs and just like building up the thing that is

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<v Speaker 5>the band before we took our like our first dive

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<v Speaker 5>into touring or like really putting ourselves out there. And

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<v Speaker 5>I think it just set ourselves up really well to

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<v Speaker 5>like immediately be discovered by some bigger bands and and

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<v Speaker 5>just people that really believe in our music and want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Like help support what we do.

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<v Speaker 5>So Clint Lowry from seven Dust is actually the first

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<v Speaker 5>person to reach out to us candidly from us just

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<v Speaker 5>releasing a song and was like, hey, I want to

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<v Speaker 5>bring you guys out on the next tour that we're having.

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<v Speaker 2>And would you say he reaches out? How does he

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<v Speaker 2>reach out on Instagram? Seriously?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So that's how easy this job is.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's like people think that, like there's people at

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<v Speaker 5>the top just like b bro blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, get this band with this band, this band

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<v Speaker 3>with this band.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's like you gotta they just got to be

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<v Speaker 5>fans of each other at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like sometimes it is just that easy.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so did Wolf He just reach out to you

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram and be like, hey, let's go.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's it's a little bit. I guess our situation

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<v Speaker 5>is a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>We do have a team. We do have a manager

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<v Speaker 3>and a label and.

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<v Speaker 5>Stuff like that, so we do get a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of help in that sense just connecting with the other teams. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we have agents as well, so it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>more professional now. But back when we were unsigned and

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<v Speaker 5>we didn't have a manager or anything like that, it

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<v Speaker 5>was like, how else are they going to get in

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<v Speaker 5>contact with us besides just hit us up us on

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<v Speaker 5>Instagram and.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the what is the the So so like

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<v Speaker 1>this I was gonna say, does word of mouth also help? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure like word comes out where they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know number one these guys are good, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the starting point for all of it. Is if the

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<v Speaker 1>music isn't good and the shows aren't good, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>end up going anywhere. So I mean that that is

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<v Speaker 1>the credit right up front is And Clint doesn't dm

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<v Speaker 1>you if he hears the song goes this.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing sounds like garbage.

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<v Speaker 1>So none of that happens anyway if there's not if

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<v Speaker 1>there's not talent there, whether it's in the music or

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<v Speaker 1>in the stage show. But then I would also assume

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys aren't Maybe I'm wrong. You'll tell me

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<v Speaker 1>big pains in the asses on the road, or hard

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with, or there's always some fight going on backstage.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we're always tussling.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're always getting into it with each other and

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<v Speaker 5>with the band backstage.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, when you're throwing around tussling, it sounds like But

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<v Speaker 1>does does word of mouth help on stuff like that?

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<v Speaker 3>For sure? Absolutely? Definitely your reputations everything, Yeah, I think this.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the music world is very small and rock

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<v Speaker 4>is even smaller, right, so you know, I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>word of mouth is almost the most important thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like that's just true in general for all

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<v Speaker 4>walks of life. You know, just just just can I cuss?

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<v Speaker 3>No, be an a hole?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's totally fine, that's totally fine.

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<v Speaker 1>If it starts with an EF for a c got it,

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<v Speaker 1>generally stay away. Yeah, yeah, yeah, A hole is fine,

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<v Speaker 1>not just saying the a whole part, not the actual word.

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<v Speaker 2>You're fine, You're fine, No, you're good, You're.

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<v Speaker 3>Good anyway, Yeah, just don't be an a hole? And uh,

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<v Speaker 3>and that will take you a long way.

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<v Speaker 2>The what was the what was the point of getting signed?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what not? Not what's the point of it? But

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<v Speaker 1>at what point did that happen?

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<v Speaker 5>Right before we started touring? It was just kind of

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of things just lined up at the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>We played our first big festival and and we got

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<v Speaker 5>to meet with Danny Wimmer, which was the owner of

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<v Speaker 5>all the festivals, and he really dug our music.

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted to manage us, and I think just.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people got interested at the same time

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<v Speaker 5>in the band and was like really really really excited

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<v Speaker 5>about it. And that's when Jason Flumm from Lava Records

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<v Speaker 5>hurt us and was like, I want to sign these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good. Now I only know it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I only know Whimmer from the festival side of things,

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<v Speaker 1>but isn't he He's all like, welcome to Rockville. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>great festival. Yeah so yeah, and you doesn't he also

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<v Speaker 1>do Bourbon and Beyond? Yes, yeah, do that one? The

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go to that one is the festival

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<v Speaker 1>because I know that during the summer, you guys hit

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the festival seem fun?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeaheah awesome?

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<v Speaker 4>Especially I feel like, especially like the Wimmer festivals just

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<v Speaker 4>because he he really puts a large emphasis on like

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<v Speaker 4>the just like artists diminities and like making everyone like

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<v Speaker 4>super comfortable and.

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<v Speaker 3>Just and the way everything's run, it's just so smooth.

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<v Speaker 4>All the crew it's just amazing to work with and

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a super smooth experience, not only for like

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<v Speaker 4>the fan. I'm like totally you know, glazing the festival

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<v Speaker 4>right now, but it's it is really great festivals.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, he runs it for the fans for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>We've played a lot of other festivals and he really

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like he does it the best.

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<v Speaker 1>The is there is there a benefit when you've only

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<v Speaker 1>been doing this out on the road for a year

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. Is there a benefit to doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>or would you rather grind away night after night after night,

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<v Speaker 1>which you're gonna do anyway, but would you rather I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know which show would be more important, but is

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<v Speaker 1>one is?

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<v Speaker 2>Does one mean more to you?

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<v Speaker 8>Guys?

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to more important, so you go.

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<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't say one's more important, but I think that

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<v Speaker 6>once they both have their different uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Like characters.

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<v Speaker 6>I think like when you open up for a band,

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<v Speaker 6>that's like all everyone's there to see the opening band

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<v Speaker 6>or the band opening for Yeah, right, the headliner, the headline,

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<v Speaker 6>No one cares about you. But at a festival, it's

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<v Speaker 6>like everyone there is kind of a rock fan and

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<v Speaker 6>there's more energy to there to have a good time

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<v Speaker 6>there to have a good time. So they have their

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<v Speaker 6>different traits.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I know, so next year, you guys are doing

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of well next year you're going out of

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<v Speaker 1>the country for the first time. They are going to

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<v Speaker 1>play a bunch of festivals. But is there also a

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<v Speaker 1>tour wrapped around in Europe.

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<v Speaker 3>Working on it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean we're not going to be there for a

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<v Speaker 5>whole month and just play four festivals, so we'll stay

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<v Speaker 5>busy the entire time, just we'll announce some more stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually nine festivals.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry, actually we only have We only have announced like

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<v Speaker 5>six of them right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, Graham run through all of them right now.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're playing, we're playing download, We're playing rock and ring,

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<v Speaker 4>rock and park grass, pop and tusca.

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<v Speaker 3>Currently there's no rock. There's oh yeah, no rock. Oh dang.

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<v Speaker 1>And it looks like Maddie would like you to stop

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<v Speaker 1>at those six.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that, but I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I did read somewhere you were saying that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't been overseas before, and I didn't know if that

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<v Speaker 1>meant as a band you hadn't been overseas or just

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<v Speaker 1>individually you hadn't been overseas.

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<v Speaker 3>Both well some of us.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh, London, you're the traveler of travel, have you really?

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<v Speaker 3>I love it? Yeah, he gets around.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's kind of cool though, for it to be

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<v Speaker 1>the first time to be not you London, this all

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<v Speaker 1>half for you, but for the first time to go

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<v Speaker 1>and the first time you go is as a band

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<v Speaker 1>a tour.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're pretty excited about it.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope the same thing doesn't happen though in the

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<v Speaker 5>States where we get to a place and we just

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<v Speaker 5>have to stay there in the venue.

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<v Speaker 3>Though I hope we can like walk around like whoa,

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<v Speaker 3>we're in Europe.

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<v Speaker 5>We're in the exact same looking green room that we'd

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<v Speaker 5>be at in the fillmore in Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want, I want you to get to a

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<v Speaker 1>city and let it just go. I've already been here, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been here. Yeah, No, it's pretty cool. Now will

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<v Speaker 1>you there's a flag just my smiling face signature in

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<v Speaker 1>the war.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, who will will you? Will you?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna ask this for a reason, like obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you guys drove from Charlotte last night in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the van, and I was asking before we went on

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<v Speaker 1>who drove last night?

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<v Speaker 2>Why does Seb never drive a van?

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<v Speaker 6>Don't I don't have a license at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait I did.

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<v Speaker 6>I did just pass the writing test before we went

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<v Speaker 6>on tour, but I don't think that really permit I

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<v Speaker 6>don't have a license.

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<v Speaker 2>How much do you hate that he doesn't drive?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, these are your practice hours like most people were

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<v Speaker 1>doing with mom and dad.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can do practice hours with them.

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<v Speaker 5>We shouldn't start with the sixth ton'.

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<v Speaker 4>Starting on like level three thousand more thousands and thousands

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<v Speaker 4>of equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what that I was trying to figure out.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get busted for something? Was there an accident

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<v Speaker 1>for something? Oh, you should make up a good yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you just never got a driver's license.

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<v Speaker 2>How old are you? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, there's no way there's that, because

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<v Speaker 1>I know we started young. But I was like, in

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<v Speaker 1>my head, I'm doing the math, and I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 1>definitely are old enough to have gotten a license by now,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you ever get one?

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<v Speaker 2>How have you existed with that one?

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<v Speaker 6>I just walked, Well, the guys lived nearby, so I

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<v Speaker 6>just walked there. And then my job was nearby after

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<v Speaker 6>high school. So I just walked there and I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Four blocks of West Covina and that's all I needed

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<v Speaker 1>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, That's what I can tell you. Where the startuks,

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<v Speaker 2>We're like, we don't live in New York, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 6>Like you.

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<v Speaker 5>In a more suburban the area of La car centric city.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you been on the public transportation in La is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is under l for sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Not said doesn't need it now.

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<v Speaker 1>I walked to Starbucks, I go to Maddie and Graham's

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<v Speaker 1>public trans right here, you know what. Never been to Sofie,

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<v Speaker 1>never been to Staples, never been never been to the

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<v Speaker 1>Sunset Strip.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't need it everything? I need three blocks.

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<v Speaker 7>My room, the other house.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let me do this like I said, so

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<v Speaker 1>the uh the EP has been out. Speak like the Dead,

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<v Speaker 1>new single, New Religion is out tomorrow night at the

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<v Speaker 1>Fillmore Silver Spring with Mammoth and Miles Kennedy, Quick break

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<v Speaker 1>more with return to Dust next Elliott.

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<v Speaker 2>Till Yes the morning, Return to Dust is with us.

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<v Speaker 1>They will be at the Fillmore Silver Spring tomorrow night

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<v Speaker 1>with Mammoth and Miles entity.

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<v Speaker 2>EP speak like the Dead that is out and available.

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<v Speaker 2>Now all right, what are we going to play first?

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<v Speaker 2>What are we playing? First?

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to play a song off of the Speak

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<v Speaker 3>like the Dead EP.

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<v Speaker 2>Called Board Whenever you are ready, sir?

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<v Speaker 8>All right, people you know.

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<v Speaker 9>They want to crash hid, I wanna ride the hide.

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<v Speaker 9>They want a cat jot, spend on the week, save

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<v Speaker 9>it the good time sign on the d and to

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<v Speaker 9>the why line, it's you insign wayed me something.

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<v Speaker 7>More moreland more.

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<v Speaker 9>And finally come back so more.

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<v Speaker 7>Moreland more. This is a life.

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<v Speaker 9>Sect chance at the ending that you want to get

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<v Speaker 9>anything you need.

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<v Speaker 7>This is the line.

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<v Speaker 9>To got chance at the ending that you want to

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<v Speaker 9>get anything you need?

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<v Speaker 7>Bury the bar, child of the.

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<v Speaker 9>Seven gat no, so play with mais.

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<v Speaker 7>Faina, isn't re s isn't bring up with the girl?

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<v Speaker 8>No better.

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<v Speaker 9>If you adn't by new way, be something Marland bar

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<v Speaker 9>and finally come freny.

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<v Speaker 7>Ma Marland bosn't my life see your chance at the.

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<v Speaker 9>Adding that you want to get anything you need?

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<v Speaker 8>Listen my life.

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<v Speaker 7>Take your chance at.

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<v Speaker 9>The adding that you want to get anything you needed?

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<v Speaker 3>My money, go get borcause.

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<v Speaker 7>Some moana hit it, I moon acquit it. Not's in

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<v Speaker 7>my money. Go get bocause some moona hit it. I

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<v Speaker 7>moon acquit it. Not in money.

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<v Speaker 2>Quit God, that was awesome, dude, that was great. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get into a couple of things. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into a couple of things. So before we become

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<v Speaker 1>returned to dusk. So, Maddie and Graham are growing up

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<v Speaker 1>in a small town outside of Dallas, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You two have known each other since middle school middle school?

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<v Speaker 2>But like, were you both did you?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you friendly in middle school?

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<v Speaker 4>We were acquainted in middle I feel like we didn't

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<v Speaker 4>really become like friends friends until like like freshman year

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<v Speaker 4>of high school.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah is that right?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>But knew but knew of each other.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we were like we had mutuals. We were kind

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<v Speaker 4>of in the same friend group, that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what happened in high school? Like at what point,

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<v Speaker 1>like what what was the click where YouTube became real friendly?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I looked into each other's eyes and we

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Really is a true love story, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we started like playing a lot of games

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<v Speaker 5>together or something. Definitely it was probably video games.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, there's no way it was music, right, No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I realized that kind of sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>dick thing to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't mean it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, But it wasn't like like maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>like did both of you have your own thing going?

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<v Speaker 1>And then it was like, let's be in a band again.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I think it was a mix of things

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<v Speaker 4>like short video games. But we also have this friend Ryan.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure if that's where you were going, but

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<v Speaker 4>we have this friend Ryan who uh he was like

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<v Speaker 4>the type of guy who would just kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>he'd bring his guitar to school, his I think his ukulele.

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<v Speaker 3>He was just he was like a piano virtuous.

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<v Speaker 4>He was just like a music guy and he would

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<v Speaker 4>do that and he was so good and he was

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<v Speaker 4>just so unapologetic about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was very contagious and we we liked that.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Contagious to you were like everybody at the school, well,

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<v Speaker 1>annoying probably to everyone else. Yeah, I feel like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you either loved it or hated it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then clearly you two loved it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and uh, and we just became really good friends

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<v Speaker 4>with Ryan, and you know we just kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>fell in love with with music after kind of just

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<v Speaker 4>you know, becoming friends with him and and really growing

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<v Speaker 4>our relationship with with music.

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<v Speaker 5>It's also like grew into this, you know, the like

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<v Speaker 5>coffee shop thing that we did every Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh and in high school, yes, where you would go

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<v Speaker 2>to that.

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<v Speaker 1>So the way that the story reads, though, can I

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<v Speaker 1>ask this, like, if Ryan was the driving force behind

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<v Speaker 1>all this, where's Ryan?

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<v Speaker 3>He works for a producer? Shut up?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he really?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so is he the guy that you went to

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<v Speaker 1>visit in La So Ryan actually is very important to

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<v Speaker 1>the story. Okay A gotcha, all right, But before we

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<v Speaker 1>get there, So in high school, you guys get together

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<v Speaker 1>and you're playing this this coffee shop that had like

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<v Speaker 1>open mics on on Thursday. What what kind of music

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:32.520
<v Speaker 1>were you guys doing. I mean, if if if somebody

0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 1>were to say, like return to Dust like it it's.

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.399
<v Speaker 2>It is a hard rock band.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the music is hard, and that's great. I love it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know that I imagine myself going in

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<v Speaker 1>for like a chi t latte and sitting down. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't know what the neighborhood is, like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what was it? What was it on Thursday nights? Very

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<v Speaker 1>much like we just did so just kind of broken

0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:57.880
<v Speaker 1>down acoustic.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, And I think that like the harder element,

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:07.400
<v Speaker 4>the heavier element started to kind of happen like later,

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 4>we just started to listen to more heavy music, and

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, we're like, let's add drums and let's add

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:19.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, heavy guitars. And I was like, man, we

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.880
<v Speaker 4>need a bass player. I guess I'll do that, right,

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:22.200
<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like a big like classic rock fan, like

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:31.200
<v Speaker 5>I loved like Stevie ay Vaughn and like Eric Clapton,

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.680
<v Speaker 5>Fleetwood Mac stuff like that. So that's kind of the

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<v Speaker 5>stuff that I would play just on acoustic in my bedroom,

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 5>just stuff that I could play solo with just me

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<v Speaker 5>and just me.

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<v Speaker 2>By yourself and do that. So then so this goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>So you do that all the way through through high

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 1>school before we make the trip out to see Ryan again.

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<v Speaker 2>Where were you guys in college?

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<v Speaker 3>I was in Colorado? Yeah, I was in Texas. I

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<v Speaker 3>was in San Marcos in like near.

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<v Speaker 2>Austin, like San Ange State or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh no, Texas State.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, all right, very good, and you were in Colorado?

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<v Speaker 1>It was Now were you two both in college when

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<v Speaker 1>you went to see Ryan or were you two still

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<v Speaker 1>back in Texas at that point?

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 3>No, we were in college.

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 2>So you guys have split up.

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 1>Graham goes at that point, like when you go off

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<v Speaker 1>to college, and you're, well, you did too, but I

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:20.880
<v Speaker 1>mean you moved away.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there any thought that we'll get back together and

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<v Speaker 2>be a band? No, form a band?

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely no, that was not an option in our mind.

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 3>We didn't know it was an option, right, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? Did you stay in touch?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And so Ryan invites you out to Los Angeles, and

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 1>both of you were like, all right, screw it, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>go to LA.

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<v Speaker 8>And then.

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<v Speaker 5>So Ryan works underneath our producer Jim, and so we

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<v Speaker 5>we went and we visited them, and we we just

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 5>there are a couple of acoustic guitars sitting around, and

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 5>so we picked up, you know, one of them, and

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:56.560
<v Speaker 5>just started playing a song much like we would at

0:25:56.600 --> 0:26:00.360
<v Speaker 5>the open mic in mid Lothian and h and Jim

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<v Speaker 5>really liked it, and he was like, you guys should

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 5>just drop out of college and like be a band.

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 5>Like I don't know why you guys are doing that,

0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 5>Like you should you should move here, right, move here

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:11.479
<v Speaker 5>and pursue music. And I think we just both got

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 5>super inspired and we like, on the drive home, just

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 5>listen to a bunch of like like rock stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>We were like, what kind of band do we want

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<v Speaker 3>to be? You know?

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 5>Is like and we listened to a bunch of like

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 5>nineties stuff on the way home, like the drive back

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 5>to Texas in Colorado, and we just got super inspired

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 5>and we're like, let's just do it, Like let's just

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 5>start writing songs like this. So it was like the

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 5>main catalysts of it was like Queens of the Stone

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 5>Age Alice and Chainstone double Pilots, just like these kind

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 5>of like heavier bands that we both mutually loved and

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 5>felt like we could, you know, pull out of inspiration

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 5>from to make something cool. And we didn't have a

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 5>band name at the time anything like that, so we

0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 5>were just like, let's just write songs like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So how how quickly after you got back did both

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>of you guys drop out of college and move to

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:57.119
<v Speaker 1>LA three months?

0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, it was.

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 4>It was pretty like we were pretty I'd said, like

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 4>we kind of we sat on it, you know, for

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 4>the remainder of our of our semester in college, but

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 4>once the summer hit, we were we were pretty dead

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 4>set on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did anybody's parents not really enjoy the phone call? Oh yeah,

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>what what were you studying in Colorado?

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 3>Cybersecurity?

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 5>I love it.

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 2>You got to study something that makes total sense? What'd

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 2>your parents say?

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 8>Uh?

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 3>My dad was not for it. He like begrudgingly was like,

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, okay, like you know, maybe maybe just go

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:39.640
<v Speaker 3>and figure it out and feel it out.

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 4>But it felt like every phone call was kind of

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 4>him persuading me to come back.

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know more and more, and I assume he's

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 1>come around that he's fine now more or less.

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 2>We're getting there, Mattie. How were your parents?

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 3>My parents were fine with it.

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:01.359
<v Speaker 5>They're a little bit on the fence, are They were like, okay,

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 5>you should just go feel it out, you know, for

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.680
<v Speaker 5>a year or so and then see see how it goes.

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, they It honestly took a long time and

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 5>before they were like really.

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 3>About it, you know.

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 5>So they're on board now, yes, right, we're you know,

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 5>we're like staying at their houses on tour and stuff like.

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 5>There's they'd support.

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 2>He quick question, why Graham's not listening when you go

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 2>buy his dad's house? Do we stay at his dad's house? No, No,

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 2>we'll get there, Graham. We'll get there, all right. So

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 2>here's so.

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.160
<v Speaker 1>So now we moved to La right, and we're living

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>in the we're living out in West Covina and you guys,

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>you rent a house and you're what were you doing

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>for work, by the way.

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 3>So waiting tables?

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, waiting tables? Uh, it was it was kind of

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 5>COVID time a little bit. So we were working grocery

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 5>store jobs for a bit and then after that kind

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 5>of subsided. Then we were waiting tables, and then after

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 5>that we became line cooks. We always worked at the

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 5>same place because it made our schedules like line up perfectly.

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Pretty smart.

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we lived at the same place and also worked

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 5>at the same place, And when Graham's car wouldn't work,

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 5>then we would drive in the same.

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Car and literally wait for each other. Yeah. I found

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 3>out quickly that being in a band men being married.

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Right. Yeah, so you end up you end up renting

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>this house in West Covina, out in a suburb of

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, and you guys are just playing literally as

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 1>a garage I don't want to say as a garage.

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Band, but you're rehearsing and just playing in a garage.

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Seven his mom happened to be walking a little fifteen

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>year old Seb and his mom happened to be walking

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>down the street.

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 2>And you guys can hear them playing in the garage.

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 2>When did you start playing guitar?

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 6>Ten years ago? Now, so when I was ten, So.

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 2>You're ten years old? Were you always good?

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 3>No, I was.

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.719
<v Speaker 6>I actually went before I met the guys and went

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 6>on the walk. I hadn't been playing at all.

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:57.719
<v Speaker 2>I just gave up.

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh but you had played before, Yeah, okay, your mom

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>is the biggest liar in the world.

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 6>Well yeah, I was like playing on and off. But

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 6>at that point I was like, there's no plant. And

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 6>then I went on a walk and met these guys.

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 7>And I was like, there's a point.

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>So you're walking down the street, they're playing in the garage,

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and you and your mom hear them playing.

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 2>But your mom is the one that went and knocked

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 2>on the garage door.

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 3>She did everything. She convinced me.

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 2>She was like, oh, we should go to their house.

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't know, and she was like, oh,

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 2>let's let's go do it.

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 6>And we've walked and waited till they were done with

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 6>their set, and then my mom, yeah, knocked on the garage.

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 3>They thought it was a noise complaint.

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 6>You can hear them like, oh man, how mortified were you?

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 6>I was so I don't even think I said like

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 6>a proper word that day. Said yeah, I don't even

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 6>know if I said anything. My mom said she was like, yeah,

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 6>he play his guitar and he loves Metallica and heavy

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 6>metal music.

0:30:58.120 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 3>You guys should play together.

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 6>And then I got their number and then and then

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 6>a week went by before you heard from them.

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 3>The So we're trying to play hard to get Yeah,

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 3>I get it, I get it.

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>No, no, but like when you open the garage door,

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>like forget that there's a kid standing there, you don't

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>know anything about him, and mom and hers like what

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the hell do you end up thinking at that point?

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, definitely a little skeptical at first, but we were like,

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 5>we don't have a lead guitarist and we really need one,

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 5>so you know, let's let's try out.

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Let's see how he is.

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>If he's good, and so Seth shows up or Seb

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>rather excuse me, shows up a week later and start playing.

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's melting faces over here immediately.

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 2>God damn, Like that never happens.

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Like that is the craziest part of the story, that

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>his mom goes and knocks, like, come on, Seb, let's

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>go knock and see what happens. I would I would

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>have shrunk into the ground, like Jesus, Mom, That's how

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I felt.

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know whether they're practicing. You don't want to

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 2>bother them. Ah, what'd you guys start playing at first?

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Like finally a week later, well, who reached out after

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 1>a week, you guys reached out.

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 2>It was right, okay, they gave up on me.

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 3>I was like, they're not good.

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 7>No, I'm okay, why would they?

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Right, there was no one else. I mean really it

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 2>was you, and it was you.

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 5>We actually had Craigslist ads and like I believe that

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 5>literally defined a guitarist and like a little posters like

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 5>guitarists won it all around Guitar Center and stuff.

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 2>We had some weird did you really? Oh yeah, dude,

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>that's saying something. When the one who got it his mom.

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 4>Knocked on the door. Well yeah, And I think it

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 4>was really cool. Is like this is just a fun fact.

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 4>And I think this honestly was like very like validating

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 4>and kind of made us think twice about like said,

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 4>being so young. Uh, correct me if I'm wrong. David

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 4>Navarro Jaine's addiction was sixteen when they recorded Nothing Shocking.

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so you know, I.

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Mean anything can happen. Anything can happen, you know exactly.

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 2>And then where does that? Where does where does where?

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Where do you fit into all of this because you've,

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>like we've learned, you've already been touring, you've already been around,

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 1>So where you end up fitting into everything.

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 3>I wish I was there for that, and I wish

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 3>I was part of that cute moment.

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 10>But I came in about two years ago now and

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 10>I was working with another band that Jim, our producer,

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 10>was working with, and went in a tracker record with

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 10>them at the same time as their EP. The first

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 10>EP came out, The Black roadp Right, So Jim gave

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 10>that to me and I became hooked on it, and

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 10>I forgot how many months later it was, but they

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 10>needed a drummer and Jim hit me up and I'm here.

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<v Speaker 1>The By the way, Jim is a Kaufman, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>right says the nicest thing about you guys, like in

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<v Speaker 1>anything that you read where he'll talk about the band

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<v Speaker 1>or start talking about stuff. It's just how how natural

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<v Speaker 1>it comes, but how hard working you guys are, how

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<v Speaker 1>much how much it matters to you, and but at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, how it's not. And I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say that it's it's come easy. It hasn't come

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<v Speaker 1>easy by any stretch of the imagination. But just from

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<v Speaker 1>from a songwriting standpoint, again, we started by saying we've

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<v Speaker 1>only been out on the road for a year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. I feel like that that that is really

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<v Speaker 1>really quick to start going like that. But he'll just

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<v Speaker 1>go on and on about how good you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>and how much how eager you guys are to to

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<v Speaker 1>work and to learn.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, that's pretty nice. That's that's pretty nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Ways.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean being in the studio with him, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's there's no one that works harder than him. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>he's he's up at we were just joking just a

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<v Speaker 4>second ago. He's up at like five am working on mixes,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, just getting it done.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, now what was the So like, there's the

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<v Speaker 1>the EP, Speak like the Dead and then we just

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<v Speaker 1>put the the single out relatively recently.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the what's the was?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that the reason to do the EP is that

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<v Speaker 1>if there would be more stuff, you could just keep

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<v Speaker 1>kind of adding as you went.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sure, I mean we just kind of want to

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<v Speaker 4>keep this thing moving forward, you know. And yeah, I

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 4>would say that that that's kind of that was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of part of it. We just want to keep you know,

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 4>keep keep our fans fed, and keep you know, releasing

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<v Speaker 4>more stuff and keep the keep the band moving forward.

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<v Speaker 3>And we figured that that was the best move.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I saw something online. There was a video.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the company is, but they'll do

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<v Speaker 1>like like like video tours of bands that are out

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<v Speaker 1>on the road and they're Vans Digital Tour of us. Yeah, dude,

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>that your van's pretty nice. Thank you, yes for for

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 1>for a van that's just out pulling around on the road.

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>That vand's pretty nice. We built the inside ourselves, the doubt.

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 1>There's wood paneling all throughout the throughout the top. But

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<v Speaker 1>you guys really built it yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, Stefan actually yeah, he helps a lot. He's actually

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<v Speaker 5>got some real blue collar like construction experience.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny because in the video, Mattter, you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how you put that second battery in.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, all right, I was sitting there, I was driving

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<v Speaker 3>nails like.

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<v Speaker 1>But it looks like it's it's a ton of video

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 1>games with the TV that's mounted on the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>The van is amazing.

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<v Speaker 7>It really is.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, like when you think of like van living and

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 1>we've seen some bands come through and vans are like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh god, that seems rough.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it's the greatest thing in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>But still that's pretty nice for van living.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we wanted to find a mix between because we

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.320
<v Speaker 5>didn't just want bunks because that's very much like it

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 5>takes up all the room. We wanted like a little

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 5>communal space that we could just like hang out. And

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:02.839
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you're in it for more times than you're

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 5>not in you're in it for longer than you're not

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<v Speaker 5>in it. On tour, it's like it becomes your home,

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<v Speaker 5>but you're on.

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Stage for an hour, So we got twenty three more

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 2>to kill.

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<v Speaker 5>On a time in that van and driving it's like

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 5>we wanted to make it comfortable and homie because it

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:18.800
<v Speaker 5>was like we did the first tour and there was nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>It was just like a shell of a sprinter van

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<v Speaker 5>and it was We're just driving every venue like this

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 5>is so depressing, Like we got to do something about this.

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 5>This is not how it should be.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, hey, great, did you break your foot on tour?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>You did?

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<v Speaker 3>Where'd you break I was on the Billy tour?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh was it really?

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Where did you? How did you break it?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 4>I was climbing the scaffolding during the song and I

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 4>jumped off and I'm just kidding.

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 3>I wish that was how it happened. You did do that.

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I did do that perfectly and landed perfectly. Everything was good.

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Maybe honestly, maybe I damaged it and I just didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right there, you go, I loosed the lid right right then?

0:37:57.640 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 2>How did it really break?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the coolest story ever. So I was like hopping

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 4>over the trailer hitch and uh the ground was like uneven,

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:19.720
<v Speaker 4>you know, and uh rolled my ankle forward.

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, if it weren't for hopping off

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>that scaffolding during the show, that's where it all.

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Goddamn right, all right, what give me another song? What

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 2>are we gonna? What are we playing?

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 5>We got Downfall off of our EP as well. It's

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 5>a bit of a more melancholic tune, but it works well.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I ask you a question about the song real quickly?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that the video?

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of underwater in the in the video

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.359
<v Speaker 1>for the song? Are we really underwater filming the video?

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<v Speaker 4>I can hold my breath for two minutes, No, you can't,

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:51.799
<v Speaker 4>can probably longer if I try.

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<v Speaker 3>No one's counting or anything.

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<v Speaker 5>Then it was it was a very It was a

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<v Speaker 5>uh like public shooting space or not public but a

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 5>private shooting space, uh for videos stuff like that. And

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 5>the water was so chlorine dense it was it. It

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.879
<v Speaker 5>dyed our clothes and uh, it just hurt to open

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 5>your eyes.

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 2>There floating around in that water.

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 5>It took me like a week from my hair to

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.280
<v Speaker 5>get back to normal. It was like all crunchy and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, whenever you guys are whenever you guys are ready, buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, show me it.

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<v Speaker 7>Shoes me. I don't want.

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<v Speaker 9>Any folks around stubby and the maybe game.

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<v Speaker 8>No, it's not just when I speak this with.

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<v Speaker 7>Can you fix my.

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<v Speaker 8>When I speak like the day.

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<v Speaker 7>If that comes down? Will you dad, don't be that time?

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<v Speaker 7>For if you see.

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<v Speaker 4>Will you be my friend?

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<v Speaker 7>Don't be that time?

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me shoes many.

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<v Speaker 8>I would started to.

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<v Speaker 7>Get from shape again.

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<v Speaker 9>Back then the sun would shine, not fa loyally shape.

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<v Speaker 8>No, it's not just when I speak fits with.

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.959
<v Speaker 7>Can you face my hand?

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<v Speaker 8>When I speak like the day.

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<v Speaker 7>In the all comes down?

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<v Speaker 8>Will you dame me.

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<v Speaker 3>To be.

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<v Speaker 7>Inducd?

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<v Speaker 1>Will you be.

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<v Speaker 5>To be.

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<v Speaker 7>Limping? I count down? Will you d.

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<v Speaker 8>To be.

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<v Speaker 7>Lympucd? Well you benad.

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<v Speaker 6>To be.

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<v Speaker 1>Return to dust? The EP speak like the Dead is

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<v Speaker 1>out and available now. New Religion is a new single,

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>You will See Them Tomorrow night with Mammoth and Miles

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Kennedy at the Fillmore and Silver Spring. Dude, I'm so

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.319
<v Speaker 1>glad you guys got up on a day off. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate you guys coming in appreciated.