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Speaker 1: Twenty four from five o'clock.

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Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Moeger, thanks so much for

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Speaker 2: joining us. On Tuesdays, we talk sports and law with

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Speaker 2: our guy Stewart wed Penrose Manilo Law Group to answer

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Speaker 2: questions like about Dion Sanders, the head coach of Colorado

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Speaker 2: looking to impose a fine system for his players, and

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Speaker 2: the idea here, you know, being that players are getting

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Speaker 2: paid now, so if they're late to practice, if they're

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Speaker 2: late to a film session, if they're late to a treatment,

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Speaker 2: if they violate a team rules, he could find them.

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Speaker 2: College football players have never been more professionalized. This is

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Speaker 2: the sort of stuff they do at the professional level,

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Speaker 2: and so you know, on some level, sure find the guys.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense. At the same time, is this really legal?

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Speaker 2: And so Stuart's here to answer those questions and more.

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Speaker 2: It's always good to have you as Stewart.

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Speaker 3: What's going on, Good after noon, moug doing doing well?

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Speaker 3: How about yourself?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing all right, son. Leon Sanders legally find his

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Speaker 2: players when they're technically not employees.

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Speaker 3: It depends on the circumstance mode. It's not the NFL, certainly,

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Speaker 3: there's no collective bargaining agreement that that governs the fines

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Speaker 3: and have things all, you know, set out in an

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Speaker 3: orderly and and and and legal way. You know, college

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Speaker 3: football operates on UH, state laws, various contracts, and quite frankly,

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Speaker 3: a lot of patchwork. If this is if this is

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Speaker 3: something that is UH being paid with nil money, it

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Speaker 3: gets very murky because those are private contracts, separate from

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Speaker 3: the school and there and there certainly could be challenges

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Speaker 3: to that. But if these are set up possibly as donations,

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Speaker 3: or if these fines are set out in a team

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Speaker 3: code of conduct or or some sort of authorized way

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Speaker 3: where the player agrees to it in exchange for you know,

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Speaker 3: partly in exchange for their scholarship and to be on

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Speaker 3: the team, well then then there could be an argument

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Speaker 3: that it's enforceable. But it just depends on how it's

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Speaker 3: set out. It can't be done in an arbitrary way.

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Speaker 3: It can't be done in a retroactive way. So, I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's easy to see what Dion's trying to do here, Malo,

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Speaker 3: and he's trying to instill some discipline and accountability, and

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Speaker 3: those are all good things. But yes, there certainly could

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Speaker 3: be legal challenges depending upon how it's set up.

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Speaker 2: I was wondering this, So in a professional sports league,

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Speaker 2: the league itself finds players for all sorts of things.

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Speaker 2: It might be something as benign as a uniform violation,

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Speaker 2: might be for something as serious as, you know, putting

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Speaker 2: another player's health and safety in jeopardy, a late hit

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Speaker 2: and illegal hit, taunting, things done during games, getting in

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Speaker 2: a fight. Players are fined every single week in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I was wondering, could like a league like the Big

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Speaker 2: ten or the SEC ultimately go you know what if

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Speaker 2: Deon Sanders, if a head coach of a Big twelve

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Speaker 2: program is going to find one of his players for

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Speaker 2: missing treatment, we could perhaps do this same if a

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Speaker 2: player commits a certain infraction during a game.

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Speaker 3: I think that's stretching out an already murky situation even further. Uh.

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Speaker 3: I think that's very unlikely to be the case. There's

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Speaker 3: no collective bargaining agreement, there's no UH to pay it.

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Speaker 3: The players aren't employees. If you start doing this in

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Speaker 3: large scales, you could get into uh, you know, UH

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Speaker 3: wage in our violations, employment violations, contract violations. It's just

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Speaker 3: not set up that way in college athletics for it

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Speaker 3: to hold that sort of weight at this moment. But

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Speaker 3: let's look at the practicality on the other side too, though,

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Speaker 3: If you pay for Keon Sanders, who's gonna see Dion Sanders, uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, for being fined by this, you know, in

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Speaker 3: I certainly see what Dion's doing here. Is it on

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Speaker 3: shaky legal grounds? Very likely perhaps, depending upon how it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I would also wonder, like, there are

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Speaker 3: Sure, then you certainly get into the deep end of

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Speaker 2: I feel like as a college sports fan, I have

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Speaker 2: to become more and more familiar with the word injunction.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about dukes soon to be

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Speaker 2: former quarterback who is Darien Mensa helped lead the Blue

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Speaker 2: Devils to an acc title. He and his now former

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Speaker 2: that he is going to go play for the Miami Hurricane.

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Speaker 1: So Duke sued their former player, a.

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Speaker 2: Guy who a month and a half ago was helping

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Speaker 2: was an injunction hearing scheduled for Thursday. Apparently that's not

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Speaker 2: ask it anyway. What is an injunction.

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Speaker 3: Relief that the court gives to prevent something or allow

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Speaker 3: and you know that's what the court is a you know,

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Speaker 3: Duke allowed them to settle, or Duke settled with him,

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Speaker 3: But you're asking for some sort of non monetary relief.

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Speaker 1: What was what was Duke's case here before the settlement.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're trying to hold him to the to the

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Speaker 3: both of those situations were settled. Of course, that kid

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Speaker 3: can't prevent you from treachering. But you've got to you've

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Speaker 2: Our guy, attorney Steward W. Penrose, Manila Law Group, Manila

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Speaker 2: Lawgroup dot Com. One more case involving an injunction here,

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Speaker 2: and this is involves Alabama basketball players Charles Bettiaco. Now,

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Speaker 2: maybe not the most controversial among these eligibility cases we

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Speaker 2: twenty three, then declared for the draft, went undrafted, never

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Speaker 2: played in an NBA game, but he has bounced around

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Speaker 2: understandably so. The NC DOUBLEA has filed emotion asking for

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Speaker 2: an Alabama booster. So he's gotten the preliminary injunction to play.

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Speaker 2: The NC DOUBLEA is still fighting it, hoping that they

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Speaker 2: the different layers here.

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Speaker 3: Sure, well, we first and foremost we are so deep

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Speaker 3: into the leads of the wild wild wild Western College Athletics,

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Speaker 1: It's really a.

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Speaker 3: Crazy fact pattern. You know, we know the NC double

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Speaker 3: certainly going to be a you know, a landmark ruling,

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Speaker 3: if they if they allow it to happen. Where do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now we talked about that a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: Depends on the circumstance. I mean, if you're a judge,

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Speaker 3: I would picture to keep. The most of the judges

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Speaker 3: certainly understand the NCAA position here when you've got to

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