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Speaker 1: quickly We'll spend a little bit more time on this.

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Speaker 1: Can we quickly play the Mick Cronin audio from last night?

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Speaker 1: So the UCLA basketball trip to Michigan did not go

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Speaker 1: well for the Bruins on Saturday. Despite coming back and

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Speaker 1: making it a two point game at halftime, they got

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Speaker 1: crushed by a terrific Michigan team lost by thirty outscored

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Speaker 1: by twenty eight in the second half. It did not

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Speaker 1: get any better for the UCLA Bruins, who were hammered

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Speaker 1: any slansing by Michigan State eighty two to fifty nine. Now,

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Speaker 1: in that game, Mick Cronin ejected ejected one of his

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Speaker 1: own players, which I don't think I've ever seen. Late

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Speaker 1: in the game, Stephen Jamerson, who used to be a

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Speaker 1: student at Michigan State, was called for a flagrant foul.

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Speaker 1: Took down Carson Cooper of the Spartans behind from behind

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Speaker 1: on a dunk attempt, got whistled for the flagrant, and

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Speaker 1: Mick Cronan literally like a ref threw him to the

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Speaker 1: locker room. And then you know, Mick wears his emotions

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Speaker 1: on his sleeve. If he's not happy, he'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: This has been an interesting season when it comes to

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Speaker 1: Mick cronin postgame press conferences. Here's a part of his

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Speaker 1: postgame media session that has drawn a lot of people's attention.

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Speaker 2: From last night, Porus thought.

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Speaker 6: In the student section, channing Booker's name, I could.

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Speaker 7: Give a rat's ash about the other team student section,

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Speaker 7: I've just met a overall the way, well, I would

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Speaker 7: like to give you a kudos for your worst question

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Speaker 7: I've ever been asked.

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Speaker 2: Did you did you like your should take it? Do

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Speaker 2: you really think I care about the other I don't

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Speaker 2: think you care about the other.

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Speaker 8: Y are?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You are? Come on, dude, yes you were. Everybody's standing

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Speaker 2: here listening to everybody. This is on camera, they can

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Speaker 2: hear you. I answered the question. I could give a

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Speaker 2: rat's ask about the other team student section. I coached UCLA.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about Michigan State students. Who cares? All right,

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Speaker 2: Mick is not having a fun time.

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Speaker 1: And if you've paid attention tonight, like I root for him,

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Speaker 1: I root for Mackey coached here, did a great job,

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Speaker 1: was good to our show. I root for his teams

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Speaker 1: to do well, he has been extra salty this year.

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Speaker 1: He's not having a good season. He's been at odds

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Speaker 1: with his players in terms of their effort. He clearly

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Speaker 1: doesn't like being in the Big ten, all the travel issues.

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Speaker 1: Like it feels like after every UCLA game, including after

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Speaker 1: some that they've won, he's sounded off about something. And

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Speaker 1: if Mick's not happy about something, he has never been

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Speaker 1: shy about telling everyone.

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Speaker 2: But like last night, come on, dude, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, first of all, did you raise your voice at

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Speaker 1: me as something I say to my eight year old,

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Speaker 1: not another grown man. Secondly, you know the guy was

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Speaker 1: a little defensive, and understandably so you know he was

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Speaker 1: being told your question is stupid. Mick is coming at

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Speaker 1: him like he didn't start yelling and screaming the reporter.

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Speaker 1: He've got a little defensive and frankly, you can't blame him.

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Speaker 1: I guess there's two things about this one. Mick Cronin's

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Speaker 1: an awesome interview subject. And I know this firsthand because

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Speaker 1: we've been lucky enough to have Mick on the show

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Speaker 1: a billion times. And what makes him an awesome interview

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Speaker 1: subject is he'll give you an honest answer. There's not

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Speaker 1: a lot of coach speak. There are no cliches. He'll

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Speaker 1: give you an honest assessment. He'll tell you how he

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Speaker 1: feels about stuff. When you are in my line of work,

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Speaker 1: that is exactly what you're looking for, exactly what you're

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Speaker 1: looking for. He'll be self effacing, he could be funny,

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Speaker 1: he's unafraid.

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Speaker 3: Like.

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Speaker 1: All of those things are great. All of those things

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Speaker 1: make him unique, all of those things make him worth

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Speaker 1: paying attention to. Last night, he was none of those things.

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Speaker 2: He was a bully. And the person who asked.

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Speaker 1: That question, it might have been a dumb question, it

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Speaker 1: might have been a misplaced question. The guy wasn't coming

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Speaker 1: from a nefarious place. The guy wasn't trying to be confrontational.

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Speaker 1: He asked a question that, all right, maybe that's not

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Speaker 1: the time and place for it. It didn't deserve that response.

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Speaker 1: The other part of this is, like Mick is very

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Speaker 1: well compensated, he has a great job. He seems unhappy.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's temporary unhappiness, I don't know, but he seems unhappy.

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Speaker 1: And maybe the current state of college basketball is just

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Speaker 1: not something that he's totally on board with. Fine, uh,

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Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't like being in the Big Ten. Can't

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Speaker 1: blame them for that. It is completely stupid that UCLA's

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Speaker 1: in the Big ten, but that's that's just where things are. Like,

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Speaker 1: if you don't like your job, if you don't like

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Speaker 1: your profession, do what some of these coaches have done

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Speaker 1: and say like.

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Speaker 2: This ain't for me.

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Speaker 1: Or if you decide you're gonna suck it up and

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Speaker 1: be cool, then that can include, you know, treating people

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Speaker 1: like you treated that dude last night. It may be

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Speaker 1: a one off, although I've seen Nick pop off at

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Speaker 1: people before. That was that reporter did not deserve that

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Speaker 1: last night. We could elaborate on that a little bit

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Speaker 1: later on Rick Browing Next.

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Moager, Thanks for thanks for

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Speaker 1: listening today. By the way, first intermission in the US

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Speaker 1: and Sweden are scoreless. All right, we have Rick Browing

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Speaker 1: with his Musketeer report dot Com color analyst on NKU

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Speaker 1: radio broadcast the Norse taking on Purdue Fort Wayne tonight.

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Speaker 1: We're doing this like a twenty first century broadcasting outlet

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Speaker 1: where he's joining us on stream yard or we're not.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna do phone calls with Rick anymore? Is

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Speaker 1: that what's happening? Terren?

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Speaker 2: This is a test. This is a test. It's beta.

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Speaker 2: Very good. Do I have to do anything? Cotroller?

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Speaker 10: All right?

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Speaker 1: Well, I be able to see Rick's face when I

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Speaker 1: talk to him? Yes, wow, this is amazing. When I'm

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Speaker 1: ready to bring Rick in so I could see his face.

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Speaker 1: Can the folks on Twitter watch this?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Okay, very good. Well let's let's bring in ricky. I

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Speaker 1: see Rick?

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Speaker 2: Can I hear Rick? Should be able to Rick talk?

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Speaker 2: Rick say something? Can Rick hear us? I see Rick?

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Speaker 1: He looks gat you now oh now and see oh

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Speaker 1: but now Rick isn't But the audience can hear me?

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Speaker 2: Correct? Audience can hear you, all right, but Rick can't

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Speaker 2: hear me. Oh wait, well, oh I know what to do. Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is fine. This is live. See, this is this

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Speaker 2: is why radio is better than anything else. This is live.

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Speaker 1: We don't get we don't get to Let's let's go

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Speaker 1: back and then and hit record again. Hi, Rick, you

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Speaker 1: hear me?

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Speaker 10: Okay, No, I've done this like a million times on

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Speaker 10: podcasts before, where the audio doesn't work for the first

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Speaker 10: three tries.

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Speaker 9: But in that case you just get to start over.

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Speaker 9: So I've radio.

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Speaker 3: You're right.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's it's thank you for joining the twenty first century.

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Speaker 1: I believe this is only the second interview we've ever

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Speaker 1: done this way, so so thanks very much.

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Speaker 2: Maybe this will be fun.

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Speaker 10: I don't think that's me joining the twenty first century thing.

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Speaker 10: I've been doing this, you guys joining the twenty first century.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for welcoming welcoming us into the twenty first century.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's great, glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the game last night, if you're

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Speaker 1: Richard Patino, you want Trey Carroll to be involved in

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Speaker 1: the final play, But do you want him bringing the

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Speaker 1: ball up?

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Speaker 10: Well, here's here's the thing about Xavier's end of game situations,

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Speaker 10: they don't have a good option. Like as much as

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Speaker 10: fans are frustrated with Tray Carroll handling the ball in

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Speaker 10: tight spaces and trying to do everything in those spots,

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Speaker 10: and obviously had six turnovers in the game last night,

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Speaker 10: it's not the first time we've seen him get swiped

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Speaker 10: by an extra defender or in last night's case, that

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Speaker 10: last turnover wasn't even a double team situation. He was

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Speaker 10: just dribbling above the court and kind of threw it

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Speaker 10: away as he came into the front court. So yeah,

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Speaker 10: that is obviously not ideal. He probably isn't skilled enough

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Speaker 10: to be asked to handle those situations all the time.

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Speaker 10: But the reality of the situation for Xavier is they

652
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Speaker 10: don't have good playmakers. They ultimately want the ball in

653
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Speaker 10: his hands in those situations, so you kind of have

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Speaker 10: to live with them. I was texting a friend last

655
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Speaker 10: night about the game, and I said, you know, it's

656
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Speaker 10: one of those situations where you couldn't win with Trey

657
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Speaker 10: Carroll last night, but you wouldn't have even been close

658
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Speaker 10: without him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, multiple things can be true, right, They

660
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Speaker 1: have no chance of winning that game without him yet

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Speaker 1: and I my first thought after the game last night was,

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Speaker 1: holy crap, Trey Carroll only had six turnovers because it

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Speaker 1: felt like he had ten.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I mean that's the case.

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Speaker 10: It was not just the end of game situation, but

666
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Speaker 10: early in the game too, he had issues where it

667
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Speaker 10: really felt like I think there was a post on

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Speaker 10: my message board in the first few minutes where it's like,

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Speaker 10: I'm done with Tray Carroll being allowed to touch the

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Speaker 10: ball on the offensive end, which obviously he ended up

671
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Speaker 10: leading the team in scoring and having a huge night,

672
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Speaker 10: so it's like there was there's a lot of frustration

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Speaker 10: there leading into that end of game situation, and yet

674
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Speaker 10: he's been there, clearly their best player, and he clearly

675
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Speaker 10: is the guy that keeps them in most of these

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Speaker 10: games down to the wire.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, he is.

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Speaker 10: He's an ideal go to alpha score obviously not and

679
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Speaker 10: and that's been the case all season for this team.

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Speaker 9: It's one of the reasons they have the record that

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Speaker 9: they do.

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Speaker 1: You and I have talked a lot this year about

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Speaker 1: how if you look at the talent, it feels like

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Speaker 1: and I think most Xavier fans would agree. I think

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Speaker 1: Richard Patino has gotten as much out of this collection

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Speaker 1: of players as you could have asked, certainly as you

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Speaker 1: could have asked after we watched him play a handful

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Speaker 1: of games. Yet for the most part, and there have

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Speaker 1: been exceptions, like to Paul here, there have been so

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Speaker 1: many of these games that were there for the taking

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Speaker 1: down the stretch where they just don't make the play.

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Speaker 1: How much is coaching culpable for that?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that's something we do in all sports,

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Speaker 10: you know, Like we talk a lot about it with

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Speaker 10: Zach Taylor. We post his record in one score games

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Speaker 10: or games by it decided by a touchdown or less,

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Speaker 10: and it's like, well, I don't know how interesting those

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Speaker 10: stats are because the reality situation is that's what good

699
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Speaker 10: teams do, they win close games, and that's what bad

700
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Speaker 10: teams do, they lose close games. And we knew going

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Speaker 10: into the year that this Xavior team wasn't very talented.

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Speaker 10: That doesn't mean you're going to get blown out every game,

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Speaker 10: and obviously they have had a few blowouts, including a

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Speaker 10: couple of the biggest losses in Cintas Center history this year.

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Speaker 10: But ultimately, that's what it means to me when you

706
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Speaker 10: see a bunch of close losses you have a team

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Speaker 10: that's not good enough. All of these guys are getting

708
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Speaker 10: paid to play at the Big East level now that

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Speaker 10: before that they were all on scholarship, So it's not

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Speaker 10: like they can't play basketball at all. They're going to

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Speaker 10: score some points. They're going to be in these games.

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Speaker 10: But the difference between a good team and a team

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Speaker 10: that just doesn't have enough is you lose a bunch

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Speaker 10: of close games. And that's the situation Xavier finds itself.

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Speaker 1: What was going through your mind at halftime of the

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Speaker 1: NCAU game against IU Indianapolis.

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Speaker 10: It felt like a carbon copy of the first game

718
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Speaker 10: against them, quite honestly, and k you digs itself a hole.

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Speaker 10: You kind of start to see a little bit of

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Speaker 10: a fight back before the end of the first half,

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Speaker 10: but then you kind of don't get all the way there.

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Speaker 10: You screw up the end of the half situation, and

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Speaker 10: you still go down trailing, and you're thinking, well, on

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Speaker 10: one hand, we've already seen them.

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Speaker 9: Do this before.

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Speaker 10: They can come back and they can finish this game

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Speaker 10: off and turn it into a win. On the other hand,

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Speaker 10: it was certainly frustrating to go into the halftime seeing

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Speaker 10: them trail again against a team that has the worst

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Speaker 10: record in the league. But they turned it around in

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Speaker 10: the second half, and defensively, some of the plays they

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Speaker 10: made down the stretch in that game where the things

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Speaker 10: that we've been talking about all year they've lacked. And

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Speaker 10: they didn't just play solid down the stretch. I mean

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Speaker 10: they had multiple emphatic blocks, a steal that led to

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Speaker 10: a transition layup by Donovan o'dey. I mean, the final

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Speaker 10: four or five possessions of regulation, almost all of them

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Speaker 10: featured a big defensive play by Nkau.

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Speaker 1: They played Perdue Fort Wayne's and I'm coming to the game.

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Speaker 1: I'll be at the game to ice. Yeah, well, the

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Speaker 1: records want to know with you in attendance, the Norris

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Speaker 1: have an unblemish record when I show up, they do

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Speaker 1: not have an unblemish record against Perdue Fort Wayne. That

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Speaker 1: is a game that they were in control of for

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Speaker 1: the first half and for the early portions of the

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Speaker 1: second half, and then it all sort of fell apart.

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Speaker 1: What went wrong in that game that has to go

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Speaker 1: right tonight.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think the first thing is you've got to

750
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Speaker 10: be able to defend Perdue Fort Wayne without fouling. And

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Speaker 10: it starts with the leading score in the conference, and

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Speaker 10: Corey had not definitely a candidate for Player of the

753
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Speaker 10: Year in the Horizon League. This year, he's the only

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Speaker 10: player in the conference averaging over twenty points per game.

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Speaker 10: He got hot, and he got to the free throw

756
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Speaker 10: line a lot in the second half of that first game.

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Speaker 10: He finished with twenty five points. And that's what when

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Speaker 10: they win, he scores efficiently. He's shooting fifty nine percent

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Speaker 10: in the games that they win. He's shooting like forty

760
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Speaker 10: low forty percent in the games that they lose. So

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Speaker 10: you're not going to completely shut him down, but you've

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Speaker 10: got to slow him down and.

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Speaker 9: Make it difficult for him on the offensive end.

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Speaker 1: What is the dumbest question you've ever asked a basketball coach?

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Speaker 1: And when he lasted when he asked it, did you

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Speaker 1: get accused of raising your voice?

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Speaker 10: I did not get accused of raising my voice. Actually,

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Speaker 10: Richard Patino handled it very well last night. I asked him,

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Speaker 10: you know, I was interested that he brought up the

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Speaker 10: transfer portal during his Coaches show, the last two Coaches Show.

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Speaker 10: He said, like, we're already having transfer portal meetings. It's

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Speaker 10: just the reality of how the sport works now. I

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Speaker 10: found that to be interesting because a lot of coaches

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Speaker 10: lie about that type of thing and say we're only

775
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Speaker 10: focused on our current team, and the fact that his

776
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Speaker 10: team really isn't playing for much of anything meaningful right now.

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Speaker 10: I thought it would be interesting say like, hey, you

778
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Speaker 10: keep having all these close losses that seemed like your

779
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 10: team's lacking something has has that led to some clarity

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Speaker 10: on what you might be looking for in the transfer

781
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Speaker 10: portal And a lot of people felt like that was

782
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Speaker 10: an out of pocket question after a close loss, which

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Speaker 10: I think we're a little bit too soft on coaches

784
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Speaker 10: in these days. I think it's fine to ask them

785
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Speaker 10: questions about their job, whether they won or lost their

786
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Speaker 10: adults and they're getting paid a lot to do it.

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Speaker 10: But he handled it great. He said, you know, I

788
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Speaker 10: respect your question, but that's not it's not on my

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Speaker 10: mind right now. It's not what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 2: About as a coach. Ever accused you of raising your voice?

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Speaker 10: No, but I'm not really raise my voice kind of guy.

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Speaker 10: While we'll talking to coach, and I'm kind of hard

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Speaker 10: to rattle in this situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, By the way, wouldn't it be a bigger story

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Speaker 1: if we found out that coaches and their staffs weren't

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Speaker 1: starting to prepare for the opening of the transfer portal.

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Speaker 10: Well, that's the thing, right, I mean, like they all

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Speaker 10: lie about that and like, no, we're only focused on

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Speaker 10: the current game ahead of us. Then you're an idiot,

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Speaker 10: because the whole sport relies on the two weeks that

801
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Speaker 10: are about to happen here in a few weeks, and

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Speaker 10: if you're not preparing for that, then you're completely behind

803
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Speaker 10: the eight ball because everyone else is talking to agents

804
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Speaker 10: and all types of things.

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Speaker 9: And to be honest with you, that's why I like

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Speaker 9: Richard Patino.

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Speaker 10: He's honest about those things, and his coaches show He's like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 10: we're talking to agents already. I'm sure our guys have

809
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 10: agents reaching out to other schools trying to figure out

810
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Speaker 10: what their market's going to be.

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Speaker 9: It's just the new reality of the sport. But he

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Speaker 9: didn't want to talk about it after.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I could sort of understand it was

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Speaker 1: a tough loss. Well, but perhaps I'll get a chance

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Speaker 1: to say, Hidi tonight, thank.

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Speaker 2: You as always, I look forward to it. Thanks Mom,

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Speaker 2: me too. That's Rick Browing.

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Speaker 1: His website is Musketeerreport dot com and you'll hear him

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Speaker 1: tonight NKU Radio. The Nurse taking on Perdue for Wayne

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Speaker 1: pregame at six thirty on ESPN fifteen thirty ten.

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Speaker 2: And I thought that worked well. Yeah, a little hiccup

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Speaker 2: at first movie, That's okay.

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Speaker 1: You know this is the beta version of it, right,

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Speaker 1: this is and again this is live radio. This is why,

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Speaker 1: this is why radio is still the best method of

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Speaker 1: content delivery. Because it's live. You get to hear all

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Speaker 1: the hiccups, you get to hear all the mistakes.

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Speaker 2: How would you ever think about maybe taking like guests,

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Speaker 2: like callers as one stream York? How do we do that?

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Speaker 2: Think about it? All? Right, well maybe we'll do it.

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Speaker 2: Four o'clock, ESPN fifteen Sports Center.

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Speaker 9: I'm Christine Leacy, tim Usa.

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Speaker 2: Back on the ice.

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Speaker 6: In the men's hockey quarterfinals at the Olympics, the United

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Speaker 6: States and Sweden scoreless first intermission. Canada captain Sidney Crosby

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Speaker 6: will undergo an MRI to determine the severity of the

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Speaker 6: lower body injury he suffered, and the four to three

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Speaker 6: OT went over.

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Speaker 2: Check ya, mavericks Gard.

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Speaker 6: Kyrie Irving will miss the rest of this NBA season

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Speaker 6: as he continues to recover from last year's knee surgery.

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Speaker 6: His agent told ESPN the moves all about Kyrie being

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Speaker 6: one thousand percent and giving himself the best chance to

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Speaker 6: chase an NBA championship next season. He should then look

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Speaker 6: to move on from rebuilding Dallas, says ESPN's Kendrick Perkins.

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Speaker 8: I'm looking at the Minnesota Timberwolves, and I'm looking at

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Speaker 8: the Milwaukee Bucks. And if I'm Kyrie Irving, I rehab,

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Speaker 8: continue to rehab. But I'm watching the remaining of this

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Speaker 8: season and in the postseason, and I'm monitoring and seeing

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Speaker 8: what Minnesota falls if they if they underachieved, and obviously

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Speaker 8: the Milwaukee.

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Speaker 6: Bucks Irving Zoe thirty nine million dollars next season. He

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Speaker 6: holds a forty two million dollar player option for the

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty seven twenty twenty eight season.

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Speaker 11: Okay's Michelle's Mollman And coming up Thursday, we ask a

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Speaker 11: two time super World champion with the Steelers if the

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Speaker 11: criticism Mike Tomlin has gotten from players is fair or foul.

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Speaker 2: It's unsportsunate.

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Speaker 11: Like weekday mornings, we're getting at six am Eastern right

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Speaker 11: here in ESPN Radio, ESPN.

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