WEBVTT - 12-31-25 Mike Allen in for Scott Sloan 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.880 Do you want to be an American Indio. 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:11.920 News Radio seven WW Mike Allen in for Sloaney today, tomorrow, 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:15.200 and a couple of days next week too. Well, I'll 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:18.960 tell you what the beat goes on with the situation 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:23.000 in Minnesota. It's this one thing after another with this 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:27.520 and it grows daily. I mean it literally grows daily. 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:32.720 Oh boy, I'll tell you. Yesterday a surge of federal 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.800 officers from the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:41.320 They were deployed to Minnesota to investigate new allegations of 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:47.760 fraud at the childcare centers, many operated by some Holly residents. 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:54.400 I would probably change that from most operated by Somali residents. 0:00:55.000 --> 0:01:01.959 Cashptel and DHS Secretary Christy Knowam they announced that they 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:06.759 are going to increase operations to quote dismantle large scale 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:13.720 fraud schemes exploiting federal programs. This follows an earlier federal 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:18.680 prosecutor's allegation that up to half of the approximately eighteen 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:24.760 billion dollars in federal funds allocated to Minnesota since twenty 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:30.800 eighteen may have been stolen across various programs. That's probably 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.680 the understatement of the decade this thing. Yeah, and we've 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.960 talked about it a lot this week and probably continue 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:41.640 to talk about it too. It's, without question the biggest 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:47.000 government victim. The government's the victim here fraud scheme that 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.480 I've ever heard of, and probably the biggest in this country. 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:54.120 You know, we're kind of standing pat here at nine billion, 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.720 talking to people that have covered this journalist pretty closely. 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.160 It's the general consensus that that's the tip of the 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.560 iceberg and it's only going to go up from there. 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.040 And you know, some people might be saying, well, who cares? 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.120 You know, it's it's not my money, it's the taxpayers 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:17.359 of Minnesota. The overwhelming majority of this money is from 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:21.760 federal sources, which means, guess what you and I are 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.639 paying for it. I'll tell you what. I saw something 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.320 late last night that just got my hair up in 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.760 a wad and the hair on the back of my 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:35.440 neck to stand up. And no surprise here, it's the 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:39.040 New York Times. You know, you got people out there 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.560 concerned about this. The mainstream media pretty much is just 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.600 taking a walk on it. And the New York Times 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:51.240 probably has the biggest investigative force, if you will, of 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:56.040 alleged journalist in the country. There is an article in 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.959 Yesterday's New York Times that I printed out. I don't 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:01.760 want to talk about a little bit. It's unbelievable. It 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:08.680 is by Ken Benzinger and Nesto Londano. The headline is 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:14.360 an intense White House response from a single viral video. 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:20.000 Just the first couple sentences, a video purporting to expose 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:25.880 extensive fraud at childcare centers in Minnesota shows the relationship 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:31.960 between the Trump administration and self described citizen journalist. So 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.840 right from jump, you know where this thing is going. 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.560 After reading that first sentence, I said, well, we'll see 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.119 where this goes. I think I got a pretty good idea. 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:48.760 They're pod because you got citizens out there are doing 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:52.600 the damn job that they were supposed to do. And again, 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:56.280 a video purporting to expose extensive fraud and a childcare 0:03:56.360 --> 0:04:01.000 center in Minnesota or childcare centers plural is in Minnesota 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:06.000 shows the relationship between the Trump administration and self described 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:10.640 citizen journalist. Well, let me ask you, why is that 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:15.400 a bad thing? Why is that a bad thing? You know, 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:21.200 A young man with a cell phone, it took it 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:25.680 put together a forty two minute video. He did the 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.400 job that The New York Times, the Washington Post, all 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:34.480 of them couldn't do or wouldn't do, I think, more appropriately, 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.839 wouldn't do. Why is that a bad thing for a 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:43.360 citizen watchdog to keep an eye on the federal government. Well, 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.120 it goes on. A forty three minute video posted online 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:51.080 in the past week purporting to expose extensive fraud at 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:55.560 a Somali run childcare center Somali run childcare centers in 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.880 Minnesota has been viewed by millions of people. It has 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.400 also set off a suit of events that showed the 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:08.080 symbiotic relationship between the Trump administration and self described citizen 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:13.320 journalist and the Washington Post. They don't like that at all. No, 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.240 they don't like it at all. Talking about of course, 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:20.479 Nick Shirley. He put this forty three minute video together. 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.839 I watched it again last night. It's on YouTube. You 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.200 can find it, and I'll tell you if you care 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:31.400 about where your taxpayers money dollars are going, just watch it. 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:36.039 It's only forty three minutes. It's really really it kind 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:39.000 of gives you a good idea of where we're at. Anyway. 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:42.160 It was posted two x and on YouTube the day 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:46.200 after Christmas by Nick Shirley, a twenty three year old 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.560 who's made a name for himself in the past two 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.480 years by producing viral content. Are you ready for this? 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.720 That aligns with mega policies where we couldn't have that. 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.560 In the video, mister Shirley is accompanied by a man 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.800 known only as David, who claims to have uncovered fraud 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:08.200 worse than anywhere else in history. And buddy, he's right 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:12.080 about that, so he says. It goes on. The New 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:16.880 York Times could not verify the claims made in the video. Okay, well, 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.320 let me pose this question. Do they really want to 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.560 Is that something that they want to get involved in? 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:28.840 They didn't. They had the opportunity to do it, but 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.719 they're not covering it. They did cover it a little 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:36.960 bit in the beginning. Anyway. Let me see who said 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.320 top Republican officials said this. Oh, this is from the 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.120 Vice President. I'll tell you what. He just kind of 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.600 described this thing perfectly. This is from the Vice President 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.960 yesterday talking about Nick Shirley. This dude has done far 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.599 more useful journalism than any of the winners of the 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:58.680 twenty twenty four Pulitzer Prize Center Prizes He's absolutely right, 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:04.120 absolutely right, twenty three years old with a cell phone camera. 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:08.640 He did have another camera with him, cameraman, amateur dude. 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.480 But I mean he did the job that The New 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:17.440 York Times, the Washington Post, CBS, NBC, ABC should have 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:21.600 been doing. And they're covering this now finally, I mean 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:25.600 they have to. But they were real slow, real slow 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.120 to the dance on this. Well, the article goes on 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:33.040 the scale of the reaction to mister Shirley's video has 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.960 few precedents, but it highlights the way the White House 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:41.800 seeds narratives about key issues and then rewards sympathetic creators 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:47.320 who deliver viral content. Okay, again, I would pose the question, 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:51.560 how is that a bad thing? And it goes on 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.480 to say that the content need need not be new 0:07:55.680 --> 0:08:02.680 or revelatory, or even particularly revelatory to succeed. Watch that 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.920 forty three minute video and ask yourself, is this relevant? 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:11.160 Is this revelatory? As the New York Times says, I 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.760 think it is? I think it is. Well, where does 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.440 the New York Times go, of course, to get so 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.720 called expert comment on this? Where would you think they 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:26.760 would go? They would go to Darryl L. Linnville of 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:32.880 the Media Forensics Hub whatever that is at Clemson University, 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:38.320 who tracks how social media is used to disseminate propaganda. 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:40.960 That's where you know, you'd figure they would go go 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.280 to a college professor. I guarantee you he'll give it 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.720 to you straight right down the line. There'll be no 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:52.200 liberal bias there. It goes on to say this guy, 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:56.600 Daryl Linnville, professor Lindeville, they all have goals that aligne 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:00.800 and they're all pointed in the same direction. And that 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:07.160 is because again, you New York Times won't do your job, 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:11.000 so citizens have to do it. And I know you 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:15.199 don't like it because at some point, hopefully at least, 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.360 it's going to put you out of business. They hate 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.600 this well anyway, over the past, it goes on. Over 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.320 the past two years, pro Trump content creators have covered 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:29.880 dozens of protests, political rallies, and natural disasters, and they've 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:35.840 actually marched with are you ready anti Muslim activists? Oh no, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:41.480 and embedded with immigration officials on raids. How is that 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:42.280 a bad thing? 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:43.199 You know? 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:47.280 Citizens ride with cops all the time. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:48.000 Yeah. 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.400 Again, with the situation with Ice, what do they have 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.960 to hide? Why wouldn't they want to do something like that. 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.800 But again, this all boils down to New York Times 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.439 won't do their job, not be because they can't. I mean, 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:05.040 like I said, They've got investigative reporters out the wazoo, 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.720 but man, they ain't touching this because guess what, it 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.920 doesn't fit with their narrative. They could care less about 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.520 the truth. They could care less about informing the public. 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.120 The story goes on to say in September, talking about 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.800 mister Shirley, he confronted a group of men selling what 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:28.320 appeared to be counterfeit watches in Lower Manhattan, calling them 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:32.839 quote illegal scammers close quote. Less than a month later, 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:37.320 the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency arrested several of the 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:41.199 same men in a targeted rate and New York Times 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.120 let me ask you, how is that a bad thing? 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.640 How is that a bad thing? You're not doing your job. 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:52.920 Somebody has to step up and do it well. And 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.840 it goes on. Little has proved as viral as his 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:01.880 portrayal of Somali's in Minnesota. Mister Shirley traveled to the 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.800 state in July to cover what he called the quote 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.880 rise of Islam close quote with on the street interviews 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.000 with Somali Americans. Is there a problem there with that? 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:16.760 He returned soon after. He returned soon after. Mister Trump, 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.680 during a televised cabinet meeting early this month, called the 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:25.960 members of the dysphoria garbage who had ripped off taxpayers. 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.520 You know, honestly, I don't know that I would have 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.520 used that word garbage, but I don't have any problem 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:36.800 with the President using it. Garbage who ripped off taxpayers. 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:41.720 I'd say that's pretty accurate, isn't it? Nine billion dollars 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:46.800 and counting. Mister Shirley's latest video appears to have been 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.319 filmed on December seventeenth in and around Minneapolis, where he 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:54.040 knocks on the doors of numerous childcare and autism centers. 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:58.040 In some cases, there is no answer. When someone does 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.440 open up, Mister Shirley demand to see whether there are 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:07.199 children inside, but has never shown any. That's why the 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:13.480 New York Times, the Washington Post, ABCCBS, NBC, that's what 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:17.480 they should be doing. That's what they should be doing. 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:22.079 But this twenty three year old citizen journalist, if you will, 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:26.839 has done more on this story than all of those 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:32.040 outfits combined. And it's not even close. That goes on 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:36.319 to say prosecutors have exposed financial abuses in Minnesota's social 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:40.560 safety Net program for years. They brought charges in twenty 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:44.120 twenty two and have since said they believe that more 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:48.720 than nine billion dollars was stolen across several of the programs. Okay, 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.880 let me read this sentence to you for all of 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.800 you that think you know this is just up piling 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:59.440 on blaming everything on the Smalley community. Again, I repeat, 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:03.280 this is the New York Times reporting to date, ninety 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:08.719 eight people have been charged, nearly all of them Somali Americans. 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:13.240 Once again, to date, ninety eight people have been charged, 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:19.160 nearly all of them Somali Americans. By the way, the 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:23.120 specific count as I have it, there were ninety eight 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:28.520 people charged, as they said, eighty five of them five 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:32.280 out of ninety eight are of Somali descent. So I 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:36.560 think that's about the only accurate, only accurate thing that's 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:41.439 in this New York Times story. They're quoting someone here. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.720 Who are they quoting. We don't know if children were 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.360 or were not present at the time the video was taken. 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.920 That's what the Department of Children, Youth and Families said. 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:55.040 In a statement regarding the video, When our licensers have 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:59.280 conducted visits to the buildings, it added, there have been 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:03.360 children present. Well again, take forty three minutes out of 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:08.160 your day to watch Nick Shirley's forty three minute video. 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:12.679 These guys he shows up, and Shirley does, He's got 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.800 another guy with him. He shows up there, and there's 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.600 some Maloy's milling around out there, and he said, hey, 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.000 do people go to these schools? None of them can 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:25.080 answer anything. Where are the kids? None of them can answer. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.560 They can't. And these buildings that they went to, these 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:34.120 so called learning centers, they all have their windows blacked out, 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.880 you know, with some kind of covering. So you me 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.440 and a citizen that wants to help with respect to 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:45.680 wasting tax dollars. He tries to go there. He can't 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:50.040 see anything in there. I mean, everything's okay, though, you know, 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.280 no reason to worry about it, no reason to get 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:57.760 all riled up about this New York Times. Anyway, I 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.640 watched the video again, forty three minutes. You know you 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:06.000 got New Year's even New Year's Day. It's worth your time, okay. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.800 In a statement, Abigail Jackson, a White House spokeswoman said 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:14.240 that quote, the country should be deeply appreciative to surely 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.760 for shining a light on this issue. And here we go. 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:22.160 The legacy media should have taken notes. And it looks 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.760 like the New York Time has based on this article. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:29.000 But it's what you would expect. No support for the guy, 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:33.200 no words of encouragement for the guy, you know, just criticism, 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.320 and they have. This is the New York Times article 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:40.680 again in parentheses. Among the news organizations that have covered 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:46.320 the issue extensively are the Minnesota Star Tribune, the Minnesota Reformer, 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.680 Sahan Journey Journal, whatever the hell that is. Oh, and 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.640 here's one this outfit's going to give it to you. 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.680 They're gonna give it to you straight, with no bias. 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:01.440 Minnesota Public Radio and they do have local television stations, 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.040 some of which, it would appear, did some good reporting 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.600 on this. But you know, according to this New York 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:11.720 Times article, we should all rest assured, not worry about it, 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:15.320 and we don't need citizen journalists because the Minnesota Star Tribune, 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:20.000 the Minnesota Reformer, Sahan Journal, and Minnesota Public Radio are 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:24.160 all over it. They're all over it. Anyway. I could 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.960 go on and on on this and if I had time, 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.680 I would, but I want to hear what you have 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.000 to say about this. I've been talking about this in 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:36.119 the last two three days and people are really interested. 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.720 Seven four nine, seven thousand, eight hundred. The big one 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:44.200 are the numbers. The lines will be open, so please 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.120 call let me know what you're thinking. Mike Allen seven 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:58.600 hundred WLW Hey, right back, Mike Allan, impoor sloany, seven 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:05.080 hundred WLW Well. During the break, my very industrious producer 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:09.240 Dave Keaton found a video that I guess was released 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:15.840 yesterday in Columbus, so all that anticipation was accurate. There 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.760 is they are alleging something up there, and the Columbus Dispatch, 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:21.960 I mean, you have to pay for it if you 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.800 want to read their articles does have a headline Ohio 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:31.480 GOP lawmakers seek daycare fraud investigation after viral claims. It 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.159 goes about two and a half minutes. So David and 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:37.040 I decided we're going to play it for you now 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.800 I'm hearing it for the first time, as are you, 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.960 So Dave, could you please play that. It's Anthony Rubin 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:48.720 from the muckraker who did this as a daycase saying 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:50.679 by Somalias and. 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:51.359 Stuff like that. 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.560 Have you ever seen any kids in this place here? 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:55.159 No, not that I know. 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.640 I've just seen it the building itself. I've never seen 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.920 nobody come out the building or go into building. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:01.080 Ever seen anybody over there. 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.320 So right now we are in front of the Great 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:08.600 Minds Learning Academy. This is one of the many daycare 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.879 centers learning centers here in Columbus, Ohio that are associated 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:14.359 with the Somali community. 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.879 As you know, Nick Shirley. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.560 Put out a bomb show report about all these fraudulent 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.840 daycare facilities in Minneapolis, Minnesota. So we wanted to come 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.400 out to Columbus, Ohio and investigate what might be going 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:33.680 on in the second largest Somali community in the United 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:34.720 States of America. 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.280 So this place here is the first place. 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.480 We're gonna knock and we're gonna see if anybody picks 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:40.600 up or answers the door. 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:48.800 Let's see. 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.560 So it's locked. 0:18:55.119 --> 0:19:01.600 We're ringing the doorbellt here, knocking on the door. Nobody's 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.159 picking up, so we're not sure what the hell's going 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:04.879 on here, Bud. We're gonna we're gonna get out of here. 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:05.960 Now there's somebody over there. 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:06.760 How you doing, sir. 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.120 I'm sure you see the reports over the weekend about 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:10.639 all the daycare centers in Minnesota. 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:12.359 We just wanted to see what was going on. Did 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:13.960 you you know anything about this place here? 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.840 It's a daycase center everybody some alliance and stuff like that. 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:19.160 Did you ever see any kids there? 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:20.720 Not? 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:22.520 Because they used the back door, so I won't to 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:24.160 know if they is they used the back door. 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.520 Yeah, I've never seen nobody come in, but they used 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:27.040 the back door. 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.640 But but have you ever seen any kid you live 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:30.160 around here? 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:30.440 Yeah? 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:31.879 Yeah, in this building right here? 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.240 Hey, you're in this building. Yeah, you're in this building too. 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.400 Let me ask you. Have you ever seen any kids 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:39.080 in this place here? 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:39.959 No? 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:40.679 Not that I know. 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:42.959 If they used the back so I've never seen nobody 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.840 come out the front. You've never seen anybody over there. 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.200 I've just seen it the building itself. I've never seen 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:50.600 nobody come out the building. 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:51.240 Or go into the building. 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:54.320 So it came to the back, just like those guys suggested. 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:59.320 And there's nothing here. You know, we can keep poking around, 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.919 but there's so many of these centers to go to. 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.760 We're just getting started, so we're gonna go around the city. 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:06.200 We're gonna go to a few more of these places. 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.560 We're gonna see if we can get anybody to talk 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:08.920 to us. 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:17.080 Stay tuned. Well, there you go. I'm unbelievable. I mean, 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.760 it seems to me that one. It's shorter, but it's 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.119 worse than the one that Nick Shirley did. You know, 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.680 no kids. I think he went to two of them, 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:30.160 if I was listening to it correctly, No kids at 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:35.080 the Great Minds Learning Academy. So I guess they went 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:39.000 to a second one daycare center and they asked a guy. 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:40.679 It sounded like he was just maybe kind of a 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:44.520 bystander or something, who I guess has an office. And 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.080 again I didn't see it. I just heard it for 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:50.600 the first time. Doesn't see any kids, and the kids 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:54.560 use the back door. Now gee, why would that be? 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:59.640 You know, I mean, this is unbelievable. Now, I wonder, 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:04.080 I just wonder if the New York Times would be 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:07.480 concerned about this, or they would send one of their 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:13.440 liberal biased reporters to cover it. See, it doesn't fit 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:18.840 their narrative, the narrative of Trump bad. No matter what, 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:22.320 you know, we can't keep an eye on where our 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:27.960 tax dollars go. Anything that has to do with Islam, race, 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:32.800 or anything along those lines, we ain't touching. We're not 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:36.440 going to touch that because God forbid, somebody might call 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:44.840 us an islamophobe or a racist. It stinks. It stinks 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:49.159 billions of dollars of our tax money, and you gotta 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:53.800 have citizen journalists go uncover it. They're the only ones 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:58.919 in the journalism world. Except for the notable exception of 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:03.520 The Epoch, Time and Janis Heisel, no other major media 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:09.600 outlets are truly covering this. ABC, NBC, and CBS. You know, 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.359 I haven't seen the latest figures from the Media Research Center, 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:16.560 but at the beginning of this thing, I think two 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:19.240 out of those three gave them zero minutes of coverage. 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:22.080 The other one I gave them like three. I just 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:26.280 can't bring myself to watch any of those three stations. 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:30.440 So there you have it once again. And I do 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:34.240 believe I could be wrong about this. I think Governor 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:36.800 Dwine did make some kind of statement. I'm going to 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:39.480 check that out, and if I'm wrong, I'll let you know. 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:43.240 But you know, here we go again, And I know 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:45.560 I sound like a broken record. I get it, I do. 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:50.040 This is is sir, Tippitty Iceberg. It really is. Now 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:52.760 you know what city is next? 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:53.440 Oh? 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:59.000 Maybe Springfield, Ohio. It has a very large, comparatively so 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:02.879 Somali population. I guess we'll see. But darn it, we 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:07.679 just ought to stop picking on those Somalis. We really should. 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:13.200 It's not fair. I mean ninety or excuse me, eighty 0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:17.359 five of the ninety eight people charged so far happen 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:20.280 to be of Somali descent. But hey, that doesn't matter. 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:25.919 That doesn't matter. You can raise the R word anytime 0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:28.959 you want, Jess, throw it on out there. You know, 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:32.080 who cares if it's accurate, who cares if it's based 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:35.160 on any kind of facts at all. Let's just throw 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:39.560 it out there. I'm telling you right now, you cannot 0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:43.280 have these people, and by these people, I mean these liberals. 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:47.200 You cannot put them in charge of things like this. 0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:51.720 You just can't. You can't because they're not gonna watch 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:55.240 your backs, they're not gonna watch your money. They are 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:59.360 more concerned, and they've proven this time and time and 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:03.879 time again in for illegal immigrants, they're more concerned with 0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:08.159 them than they are you and I ordinary American citizens. 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:12.600 And I think people have had just about enough of it, 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:16.240 and boy, this thing is just gonna drive the whole 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:22.000 message home and drive the nail further into their coffin figuratively, 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:26.200 I said, figuratively, I'll tell you what, I gotta take 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:28.240 a short break or I'm gonna have a heart attack. 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:35.880 Mike Allen seven hundred WLW nine fifty News Radio, seven 0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:39.919 hundred WLW Mike Allen in for Sloany on New Year's 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:43.199 Eve and callers say, hey, wait a minute, it's New 0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:46.560 Year's Eve. Y'all should be doing fluff stuff. And I 0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:49.240 hear you, But boy, I tell you what, when there's 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:52.720 a story like this, you gotta do it now. I'm 0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:55.960 on tomorrow, and unless something blows up, I got a 0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:58.640 lot of good fluff stuff. It really is some kind 0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:02.040 of interesting stuff. You know, that Year in Review twenty 0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:05.119 twenty five, that kind of thing. So anyway, we'll do 0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:08.639 the fluff when there's not a big story that should 0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:12.440 be covered, and honestly, just be honest about it. It 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:17.040 really urinates me off for the New York Times on 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:21.600 their freaking high horse say, oh, this citizen journalist, he 0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.520 didn't do this, he didn't do that, Well, why didn't 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:25.119 you do it? 0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:25.400 Then? 0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.040 And you know they're not going to did have to 0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.800 make a correction, though, and I'm happy to do it. 0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.200 If I say something wrong, I want to be corrected. 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:37.800 I said the Haitians in Springfield, Ohio. And you know, 0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:41.120 I think I've told you. I've been using AI quite 0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:43.800 a bit and I've found it to be accurate. So 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:48.119 I googled are there some Alians in Springfield, Ohio? AI 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.920 came back, Yes, there are Somali's in Springfield, Ohio, though 0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:55.960 the community in that city is smaller and less prominent 0:25:56.600 --> 0:26:03.119 in public discussions compared to the much larger Haitian immigration population. 0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:08.600 So anyway, mistake made, Mistake corrected. Let's go to the 0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:12.640 phones here. Let's talk to Fred in Saint Petersburg. Hey, 0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:21.440 good morning, Fred. Are you there? We got Fred. I'm 0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:27.160 not hearing anything, so I guess Fred. Oh, there you go. Fred. 0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:27.800 How you doing. 0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:29.240 I'm doing fine. 0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:29.439 Hey. 0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:33.400 You mentioned the New York Times saying that the newspapers 0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:37.760 up in Minneapolis and there in those areas have been 0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:41.480 covering this. That's a lie. That is a bold based lie. 0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.320 They haven't been. They only started covering this in the 0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:45.600 last three or four months. 0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:47.520 That doesn't surprise me. It does. 0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.440 I'm serious. That's that's a bold faced lie. And another 0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:56.399 another thing, the Columbus mess. Now, Uh, there was a 0:26:56.440 --> 0:27:00.240 guy that up and uh got convicted for this rod 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:04.560 up up there in Minnesota. And in the trial, I 0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:06.840 think it was he mentioned he bought with some of 0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:09.160 that money a restaurant in Columbus. 0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:10.800 Oh. 0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:13.720 I don't know where I heard this. It may have 0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.960 been you, I don't, I don't remember, but somebody was 0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:20.359 talking about these somalis were they would open the store, 0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:23.800 a little convenience store, and across the street or next 0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:27.240 door or something, they'd open a restaurant and the people 0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.919 with smiles would come in there and with their ev 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:34.160 T cards buy a bunch of food, and then they'd 0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:38.400 taken over the restaurant and sell it. You heard about that? 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.560 I have not, But you know what, I'm serious. Nothing 0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:45.159 surprises me. Nothing surprises me. You know. I think you 0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:48.800 told me earlier in the week, Brad, that you heard 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.959 something about something brewing in Columbus. A lot of people 0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:55.400 have heard that in Lo and behold here we go. 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:57.800 Not a lot known yet. I don't know if you 0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.720 had a chance to listen to that video that I 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:04.880 just played there but sounds like something very very similar 0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.600 to what's going on in Minnesota. 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.479 Oh yeah, I heard it. And you know what, that 0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:14.080 Shirley guy, he does a lot of videos, not just 0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:18.320 this right in the past, he's done videos about riots 0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:21.840 or whatever. I can't remember exactly, and he does a 0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:25.960 lot of shorts too. This Tribali things just just blowed up, 0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:28.879 you know. I mean, well, I think it's wonderful that 0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:31.880 this is coming out. And one more thing, Yeah, one 0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:35.680 more thing. What Trump has been doing trying to fix 0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:39.760 all this in the last year. So there's one common 0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:44.560 denominator that boils down to all this problems we've had 0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:49.120 in his Democrats. You know, I hate to say that, but. 0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:51.480 It's true everything. 0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:55.840 I mean, you name one thing since Obamacare, back when 0:28:55.840 --> 0:29:02.960 Obama was president. Name one that's not the Democrats vault. 0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.680 It's hard, anybody, it's hard to do that, Fred, and 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:08.520 I agree with you, and I agree with you also. 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:13.440 You hate to paint with a broad brush. Sometimes it's appropriate. Though, 0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:17.000 where are the Democrats in the House, the Senate wherever, 0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.880 screaming about this. I haven't heard any of them. If 0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:27.240 anything cries out for bipartisan support. It's fixing this stuff, 0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:29.520 but they won't do it. They sure won't do it 0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:33.800 in Minnesota because they don't want to lose that Somali vote. 0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.680 And that stinks. It stinks to high ebn. 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:41.720 Yes, and you know we need to start shunning Democrats. 0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:43.719 Yep, I just shut them. 0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:44.120 You know. 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:48.120 You look at things and I guess the for the 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.800 mid terms in the House, it's about fifty to fifty. 0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:57.840 Fifty percent Republican support Republicans fifty percent support Democrats. I 0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:03.760 would never u strongly criticize someone in this country for 0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:10.200 their political positions. But what in the hell are they thinking? Yeah, 0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:13.200 you don't like Trump, we get it. He says things 0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:16.720 that make people angry that he doesn't have to say. 0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:21.120 We get that, But how can you not support what 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.200 he's doing. Just hold your nose, close your eyes, you know, 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.560 and vote for the man. I don't understand that, and 0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.880 that's worrisome to me. You know. 0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:32.320 I try to pay attention and a lot of people 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:36.880 don't pay attention. I get that, But paying attention if 0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:40.400 you're a Democrat, I would be so embarrassed. I know, 0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:44.320 I'd hang my head in shame. I get it, and 0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:46.120 I wouldn't want to be seen in public. 0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:50.280 But maybe Fred, maybe this is the thing that tips 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:54.200 the scale. I mean, you just can't have this stuff. 0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:58.760 I appreciate the call, Fred as always, thank you, you know, 0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:03.000 and I really do wonder about that. How can someone 0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:07.800 you know, democrat, goes out, works every day, puts food 0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.840 on the table for his family. You know, kids go 0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:14.200 to school, wife probably works too. I mean, how can 0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:17.800 they look at what's going on in this country and say, gee, 0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.120 I want to vote for Nancy Pelosi. I want to 0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:25.360 vote for you know, Chuck Schumer. I just I don't 0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:30.120 understand it. I respect the fact that I'm not always right. 0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:36.240 Conservatives aren't always right. However, in this situation and so 0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:41.880 many others, it is overwhelming. It really is overwhelming. And 0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:45.040 one thing about a liberal, and I've said this for years, 0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:49.480 over and over and over again, the main trait of 0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:55.479 liberalism is arrogance. Arrogance in that they can never admit 0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:59.720 when they're wrong. They will never listen to anyone else's 0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:04.320 point of you. They are right by God, and don't 0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:07.440 try to tell them that they aren't. And because in 0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:12.040 their mind their cause is so just, they're allowed to 0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:15.120 do anything to further it. You know, you're an elected 0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.120 official in the state of Minnesota. You're the governor, you're 0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:21.640 the attorney general, and you're not going to comment on 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.600 this thing or do anything about it. Of course, now 0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.080 Walt's oh, he's doing all these things because you are 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:32.880 afraid that you might be labeled a racist or an 0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:38.480 islamophobe fobe. That's bull, you know what it is. And 0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:42.360 the people in this country are getting darn tired of it. 0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:46.120 They really are. And you know, as I just said, 0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:50.320 this may be the thing that finally brings people together 0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:54.560 in that they say, We're not going to take this anymore. 0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.080 I work too hard for my money, you know, I 0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.520 don't want to see it nine billion in counter of 0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:04.640 it wasted on stuff like this, daycare centers that can't 0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:09.640 even spell learning. It was the leering LAA RNG center. 0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:14.560 Daycare centers that don't have any kids, but they're getting 0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:18.640 millions of bucks. Daycare centers where they have to put 0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:23.640 black paper on the windows so you and I average 0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:28.040 citizens or citizen journalists, they can't look in and see 0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.600 what the heck's going on. At some point, you know, 0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:34.880 the center is just not going to hold for these people. 0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:39.520 It's not at some point, and you know what, I 0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:42.560 don't understand why we really haven't reached it a long 0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:45.719 time ago. But like I said, perhaps this is what 0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.120 drives people over the edge. I guess we'll see. Hey, 0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:50.640 we got to take a break, but I do want 0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:54.240 to say that we will have open lines from ten 0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.360 thirty to eleven this morning. But when we come back 0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:00.120 at ten o'clock, we're going to talk to attorney and 0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:05.640 legal analyst Steve Gooden. There's a situation again Minnesota brewing 0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:10.040 up here. Maybe it's not just the executive branch up 0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:16.719 there that has some problems with truthfulness and honesty. Perhaps 0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.800 it might be at least one judge, perhaps two more, 0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:24.160 and that is starting to come out now and Steve 0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:25.960 has looked at it. He's going to give us his 0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.000 opinion when we get back. Mike Allen in for Sloane, 0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:33.040 seven hundred WLW. I want to be an American idiot, 0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:37.920 Kenna Wait News Radio, seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen in 0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:44.319 for Scott Sloan. But continuing with the narrative that is 0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:49.799 coming to play with respect to the Somali community in Minnesota, 0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:54.320 and now we find out in Columbus that's just starting 0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:58.480 to break the corruption in Minnesota may not be limited 0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:02.520 to the executive branch, to wit, Governor Tim Waltz and 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:08.120 Attorney Keith I Love Louis Farrakahan Ellison. It may also, 0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.759 and I underline may, it may also bleed over to 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:15.319 the judicial branch as well. Just bear with me here 0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.080 because I want to lay this out for you, and 0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.839 then we're going to get Steve's take on it. This 0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:21.799 is from the Daily Mail. I think it lays it 0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:26.520 out pretty good. The story a judge in Minneapolis had 0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:30.920 sparked rage after she decided to overturn a taxpayer fraud 0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:34.360 conviction that saw a husband and wife go down for 0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:38.920 robbing seven point two million people seven point two million 0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:42.400 dollars from people. Guy by the name of him going 0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:46.279 to try to get this right. Ab Abdefada Yusuf. He's 0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:50.520 forty four, was found guilty of robbing innocent taxpayers through 0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:55.320 a home healthcare company called Promise Health. In August, a 0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:59.680 jury found that he and his wife lu Ahmed rem 0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:02.839 a dec eful medicaid fraud scheme out of a mailbox. 0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.760 Like so many of these are at the so called 0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:10.080 medical company and use the money for lavish shopping sprees, 0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:18.720 including trips to name to name brand designers like Coach Canada, Goose, Nike, 0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:23.120 Michael Cors and to purchase high end cars. That's according 0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:28.600 to prosecutors. But in a shocking twist of events, and 0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:34.640 months after Yusuf was found responsible for directing the massive scam, 0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:39.480 Judge Sarah West decided last week that the jury was 0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:42.800 all wrong and he should be let off the hook. 0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:47.120 And that's exactly what Judge West did. Here to talk 0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:50.400 about it is legal analyst Steve Gooden. Steve as you 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.200 know if you're a regular listener to this channel. He 0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.400 is a former state prosecutor, worked for me in the 0:36:55.400 --> 0:37:01.680 Prosecutor's office, former federal prosecutor for former Army Jack military prosecutor, 0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:05.640 and longtime criminal defense attorney with the law firm of 0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:10.880 port Wright where he handles complicated civil and criminal cases. Steve, 0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.400 sorry for taking your thunder there, but I just wanted 0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:14.480 to lay it out for people. 0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.440 Well, it is complicated, and I'm glad you took the 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.120 time to set it up because it really is. And 0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.680 again we don't know everything that's happened here, but just 0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:28.520 from a thirty thousand foot view, it really is outrageous. 0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:31.600 Well not going to rupt you. I promise this'd be 0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:35.080 the only time. You have a hell of a lot 0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:38.440 of experience. You've been around a long time like me. 0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:43.080 How many times have you either been involved with or 0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:48.000 even heard of, a judge taking away a jury verdict 0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.400 after way after the fact. How many? And I'll tell you, 0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:55.200 I've been in the system in one way, shape or 0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:58.080 form for fifty one years. I've never seen it. 0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:02.799 Well, I'm I'm in my twenty sixth year. I know 0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:05.880 of one case where it happened. It wasn't my case, 0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:09.120 and it was overturned on appeal, Okay, once out of 0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:11.359 the hut. I mean it was in a civil case 0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:14.200 and it was in a dispute over jury instructions. Never 0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:17.680 in a criminal case, and never ever ever in a 0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:21.799 criminal case. I mean, occasionally you'll hear something like this 0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:24.240 happened once in a blue moon in a civil case, 0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:26.440 you know, a big dollar civil case where the jury 0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:30.960 instructions are complex, and then really deligation and appeal just 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:34.359 moves to the jury instruction. To occasionally hear something like that, 0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:38.840 But then a criminal case. Never, And it's just absurd 0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.279 to me. I mean, I mean, what we really have, 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.600 You've got a couple of different big things going on. 0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.280 I would note this is an elected state court judge, 0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.359 and we know in that area, and I've been out 0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:52.319 to Minnesota. I've actually handled a couple of cases out 0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.799 there over the years. Of Minneapolis, you know, it's a 0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.160 city between that and Saint Paul. It's very much kind 0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.840 of like what we have here. Henhamton County is a 0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:01.160 lot like Hamilton County in. 0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:01.720 A lot of ways. 0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:04.520 But they have had this influx of Somali immigrants over 0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:08.280 the years, and they really have really flexed their political 0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:11.280 muscle in that area. You've seen sort of Governor Waltz 0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.000 cow howing to them and you know, bringing the Somali 0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:18.040 flag famously, you know, into the governor's mansion at one point. 0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:23.280 And you see that the mayor of Minneapolis absolutely chases 0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.400 those votes and goes to There's all these videos of 0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:29.160 them online dancing at Somali festivals and you and eating 0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:32.560 Somali food and so forth. So it's a big voting 0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:35.600 block as well. So I you know, I don't want 0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:39.160 to cast dispersions on this judge about the politics of it, 0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:43.080 but it does as we see other elected officials really 0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:47.279 chasing the Somali vote in Hennipon County. You make sure 0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.880 wonder what's going on here, And also note that this judge, 0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:52.200 she's one of three. There are now three state court 0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:56.439 judges who have tossed some of these convictions on very 0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:59.399 strange grounds. I mean, basically, all she says in her 0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.960 decision is that, well, there's a lot of circumstantial evidence here. 0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:06.960 And I'll tell you, having litigated financial crimes on both 0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:10.120 sides in criminal cases, I can tell you that they're 0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:13.879 almost always circumstantial crimes. I mean no, I mean, they're 0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:18.239 paper crimes. There's never like one witness. These are elaborate 0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:22.440 scams that play out over months and years at times. 0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:27.000 They are all driven by paperwork and false paperwork, and 0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.440 that's just what they are, by their nature circumstantial. So 0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.840 I mean, you know, there's very rarely just one person 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:35.560 in a room who sees it. You know, the difference 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.799 of direct evidence, you know, for the circumstantial evidence. Direct 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:41.960 evidence is there's a direct witness or an admission or 0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:45.080 something of that nature. Circumstantial is when you go back 0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:48.479 through and piece together what happened through documents and other things. 0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:50.839 And that's classic what they do here. In fact, I 0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:53.759 love this. In Minneapolis, they call this we don't have 0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:57.200 this terminal Ohio, they call this theft by swindle. These 0:40:57.200 --> 0:41:03.239 guys were convicted of theft by sweaty. Yeah it is, 0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.640 and it's absolutely on point. I mean, you know, and 0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:08.960 I've seen these and I've worked on some of these cases. 0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:11.759 You know, you have tremendous amounts of federal dollars that 0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:15.040 go into different programs for home health care and trialcare 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:17.120 and things of that nature. The whole healthcare is a 0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:19.520 really big one right now because we have a lot 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:21.920 of aging baby boomers who we're trying to stay in 0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:25.879 their homes, and they really just aren't enough government agencies 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.680 to manage those funds, so they end up hiring these 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:31.880 independent contractors. I went through this with my dad a 0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:33.560 few years ago, where he had someone coming in a 0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:34.759 few days a week. 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:35.880 Through his Medicaid. 0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:39.440 And there's nothing wrong with it unless you have some 0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:42.520 fly by night company that is dummying the time sheets 0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.160 or not even providing the services and just getting the 0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:47.440 Medicaid which dollars, which is. 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:48.120 What happened here. 0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:51.959 And I will note the Trump administration apparently yesterday suspended 0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:54.920 all payments to the state of Minnesota, the whole state 0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.040 until they can get a better handle on this, because 0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:00.920 what they're saying, you know, the one the one report 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:02.799 that's come out is that this could be in the 0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:06.319 billions of dollars. But these these Somali groups who've kind 0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:09.920 of figured out that these programs are not being properly 0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:12.480 monitored at the state level. It's federal dollars, but the 0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:15.480 state administers them and then passes them on down to 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:21.120 these independent businesses, and it's a major loophole to swindle 0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:24.879 the taxpayers. So, you know, it's a really bad thing 0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:27.120 and I cannot, for the life we understand why this 0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:29.800 judge did this absent political pressure. 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.200 Let me let me do this, Steve, if I may. 0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:35.560 I've got quotes from two of the jurors that I 0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:39.800 want to read to you and get your thoughts on it. Okay, 0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:42.440 this is reporting out of Fox News. A guy by 0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:46.760 the name of Ben Walfoot, he apparently was the jury 0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:50.759 for person in Usef's case, said that the decision to 0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:55.680 convict wasn't a complicated one. And I'm quoting the jury 0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:59.480 for person here. Quote. It was not a difficult decision. 0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:05.560 What'so the deliberations took probably four hours at most. Based 0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:08.960 off the state's evidence that was presented, it was beyond 0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:13.399 a reasonable doubt. I am shocked. I'm shocked because all 0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:17.040 of the evidence that was presented to us in the 0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:21.479 obvious guilt that we saw based off the based off 0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.600 the said evidence. Okay, then one more, I've got this. 0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:28.400 This is out of Daily Mail. I don't think there's again, No, 0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:31.920 there's not a name attached to this one. Another juror 0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:35.040 on the case echoed Walflet's we just read his thing, 0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:40.920 stanced telling the outlet, telling the Daily Mail quote. We 0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:44.359 didn't take our job lightly. We went through a lot 0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:48.080 of evidence and discussed a lot. Took our time, but 0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:52.880 we all came to an agreement pretty easily. Now, question, 0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:59.360 why would a judge ignore twelve citizens who you know, 0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:03.200 were subject of we're dire questions and everything else, ignore 0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:08.959 that and submit her own judgment on this. I don't. 0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:13.080 I don't know that there's an answer, do you know? 0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:14.000 I don't. 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:17.240 I mean, the only thing that I think she glancingly 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:19.680 mentioned sort of in her decision is I guess there 0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:23.520 was something. There was some thought that the guy's brother 0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:25.799 could have been involved in the scam in some way, 0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:28.319 but again that was for his attorneys to flesh out. 0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.759 And one of the things I think is really disgusting, 0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:32.840 and this is this isn't just in this case or 0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:35.200 in this judge. This is a trend right now, particularly 0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:37.160 among a lot of younger judges. And we see it 0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:40.520 here in Cincinnati two. Which is this disregard for the 0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.279 jury system. Yes, and we saw this in the in 0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:46.240 this we were talking earlier this week about Elwood Jones 0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:48.759 and what happened. It's, you know, somewhere lost in that, 0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:50.800 you know, is this decision, you know, in the decision 0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:53.120 to clear Elwood Jones, is the idea that twelve people 0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:56.680 spent weeks in a room curing the evidence and made 0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:59.360 a decision and that's all just been wiped out. And 0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.560 it is infuriating if you were a juror and you 0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:04.640 take time off work, and a lot of places don't 0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:07.480 even really pay you for the time off. You sit there, 0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.239 you do your civic duty, you do the stressful thing. 0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:12.600 You sit there for eight nine hours a day, listen 0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:16.000 to evidence, make a decision. You know, really, you know, 0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:19.000 put your heart and soul into these cases, as most 0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:21.719 jurors do, and then just to have it wiped out 0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:23.640 with a stroke of a pen and to really have 0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:26.719 no good explanations for why that happened. I mean, it 0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:29.320 really does kind of strike at the heart of the system. 0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.080 I mean, I'm a big believer in juries. 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:32.680 I mean, I think if you can't. 0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:35.680 Explain, particularly in a criminal case, if you can't explain 0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:39.480 what happened and why it was criminal to twelve average 0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:42.080 citizens with no real legal background, then. 0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:44.720 You shouldn't convict them. I mean, you know, it's that simple. 0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:48.160 Like, you know, it has to it doesn't just need 0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:50.600 to be a crime that's written in a law book somewhere, 0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:53.200 but it has to be something that actually offends, you know, 0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:55.760 the conscience of the community. It's why the founding fathers, 0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:57.839 you know, put the jury system right at the heart 0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:01.000 of our system. So yeah, that is kind of this 0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:04.880 trend among these more progressive judges right now, is that well, 0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:08.399 the juries were just misled or kind of dumb or 0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:11.560 I don't know what they're thinking here, but I mean 0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:13.440 I think it's a really bad thing. It's such a 0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:17.680 terrible precedent, and hopefully there's some pushback here, but it 0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:20.440 does make you wonder, and I think it makes jurisynical 0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:22.919 if you're going to go and put all this time 0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:25.319 and effort into something like this, and again, take all 0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:28.640 this time, make sacrifices in terms of childcare and work 0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:31.040 or whatever else you got going in your life, and 0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:33.600 then just be told by some judge for political reasons 0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:35.920 it doesn't mean anything. I mean, that's a bad day. 0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:40.000 It really is. And you know you touched on this, Steve, 0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:45.280 and even the judge, mistakenly, I believe, said this criticizing 0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:49.880 circumstantial evidence. As you know from all the cases you've tried, 0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:53.560 as I know for all the cases I've tried. In 0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:59.600 many cases, circumstantial evidence is the strongest evidence. And you're correct, Steve. 0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:03.600 In a white collar case, that's pretty much all you have. 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:07.799 And it's not bad evidence. More often than not, it's 0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:08.800 strong evidence. 0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:12.120 Well, well, of course it is. 0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.040 I mean, I mean, you know, half the time, people 0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:17.800 are always you know, going through these, you know, thousands 0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:20.480 of emails thinking there's going to be some perfect email 0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:24.040 where someone you know, among the co conspirators where they say, hey, 0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:27.399 we're this is the precise crime we're going to create there, 0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:29.120 and this is how we're going to do this scheme 0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:31.759 and broad it doesn't work that way. That's not how 0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:35.080 human beings do these things. And there tend not to 0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:38.120 be documents. There tend not to be the of the 0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:43.160 precise scam. You have to piece it together after the fact. 0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:45.000 I mean, that's just what it is. And it's that 0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:47.600 you know that classic thing that we always used to 0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:49.600 use in Void Hier I guess you know in the 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:53.799 office of our former colleague day prem used to use 0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:55.440 it so much we actually asked them not to. 0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:58.239 About the cookie jar. Yeah, I mean, do you need 0:47:58.280 --> 0:47:58.960 to see. 0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:01.680 Somebody actually if you if you come home and you 0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:04.160 had a cookie jar and the cookie jar is empty, 0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:08.560 there's crumbs everywhere, and there's cookie crumbs on your kid's 0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:11.600 face and chocolate on his face. Do you need to 0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.319 have actually seen him get into the cookie jar to 0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:16.680 prove that he ate the cookies. No, you can use 0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:20.080 your common sense and make inferences from That's the classic 0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:24.360 circumstantial evidence, you know, example that is used to explain 0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:26.760 it to Jerry. So, yeah, when you see these payments 0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:30.520 flowing in, when you see a mailbox set up to 0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:34.160 accept them, when you see money going out in personal spending, 0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:36.279 that these folks don't have. And when you see no 0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:39.600 services being provided by this dummy company that was set up, 0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:44.239 that's circumstantial evidence of a massive fraud. So you know, 0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:47.800 I don't know. You don't need a confession at that point. 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:51.319 There is no DNA evidence in a case like this. 0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:54.920 It is by its very nature circumstantial. And if you're 0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:57.600 going to say you can't make these cases circumstantially, you 0:48:57.600 --> 0:48:59.479 can't make them at all, You may as well just quit. 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:03.759 The Attorney general out in I was handling this out 0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:07.359 in Minnesota is apparently furious as well. I mean, they're 0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:10.200 all they're all Democrats, but at this point they've actually 0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:12.200 turned on each other. And I know they're trying to 0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:14.839 appeal what the judge did here, and I think that's 0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:16.400 very appropriate under the circumstance. 0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:18.640 We shall see, we shall see. Hey, we only got 0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:21.920 about a minute and a half left legal issues aside. 0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:26.319 Just globally, Steve, what are your thoughts on this whole thing. 0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:29.480 I'll tell you, I've never seen anything like it. I 0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:33.040 think it's probably it's headed to be the worst scandal 0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:37.720 financially in this country's history. But what's your your thousand 0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:39.120 foot view on this? Thing. 0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:42.920 Well, I think it's about to come home because you know, 0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:46.160 there is as you mentioned at the top of this segment, 0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:51.360 that there is a very large Somali population also in Columbus, 0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:52.920 and I know there's a lot of folks who are 0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:54.919 you know, who are starting to look there to see 0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:58.439 if this is a part of a pattern that these 0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:00.680 guys did. I would note though, I mean, this isn't 0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:04.600 really limited to the Somali immigrants. I mean, in one way, 0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:06.680 it shows that you know, this kind of corruption, this 0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:11.319 kind of swindle is unfortunately very American as well. I 0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:13.600 think the bigger issue is that we have so many 0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:20.040 dollars flowing into this sector that are just not properly monitored. 0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:22.840 You know that the opportunities for what theyways called freight fraud, 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:25.960 waste and abuse are are are massive. You have a 0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:29.080 lot of very small companies getting a lot of dollars 0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:32.239 with just kind of based on their handwritten timesheets in 0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:35.080 some instances. So we need to be taking a huge 0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:36.719 look at how we do this. And I know we 0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:38.600 set aside a lot of money. Again, we have a 0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:42.080 very aging the baby boobier population is huge. It's a 0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:44.480 lot of money flowing there and a lot of it 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:46.600 is going through these very small companies, so we're going 0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:48.480 to have to take a huge look at this otherwise. 0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:50.879 But I would I would get ready to see what's 0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:51.880 going on in Columbus. 0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:54.279 I mean the I mean, I know that there's a. 0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:56.960 Lot of a lot of attention being paid there. I 0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:01.040 think outside of Minneapolis, Columbus is the second bigest group 0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:04.279 of Somali immigrants in the US. So we'll a wait 0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:05.560 and see what's going on there. 0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:08.080 A guy by the name of Anthony Rubin, I guess 0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:10.480 we found out at the top of the show and 0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:13.719 we actually played it dropped about a two and a 0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:19.440 half minute video similar to the one that was dropped 0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:22.400 in Minnesota. So we'll see what happens from there. But 0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:26.560 really appreciate your take on this, Steve, very very helpful. 0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:30.880 Hey anytime, Mike, Happy New Year location. 0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:33.560 You too, Thank you. All right, Hey, we got to 0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:36.680 take a break. Button we get back your calls. Seven 0:51:36.719 --> 0:51:39.560 four nine, seven thousand, one eight hundred. The big one 0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:42.840 are the numbers. Mike Allen in for Slowney seven hundred 0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:54.319 WLW and we're back Mike Allen in for Sloaney. On 0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:57.839 New Year's Eve, we're going to take some calls here. 0:51:57.880 --> 0:52:00.760 Our friend Bobby g or Jay, I'm sorry, Hey Bobby, 0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:02.080 Happy New Year, buddy. 0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:06.040 Happy new year to you, my friend, faith, Flag, family 0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:08.520 and collective bargaining. I'm glad they brought in the A 0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:09.440 team today. 0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:12.920 Thank you. That's kind of you to say thank you. 0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:16.720 But hey, I tell you what, reflecting on twenty twenty five, 0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:20.279 you know, I hate to be this way, but we 0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:22.960 have hid it ninety five percent of the time. So 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.120 do you have anything in the Cristal ball coming up 0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:25.959 for twenty six? 0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:29.960 Boy? Who knows? I mean, it's gonna be an interesting year. 0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:33.359 I think this Minnesota thing that I've been talking about 0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:36.840 for the last three days, that's gonna be a big, big, 0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:39.640 big part of it. Of course, at the end of 0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:43.319 the year, we're gonna have the midterms, which we'll tell 0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:46.080 the tale as to whether Donald Trump is truly a 0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:49.200 lame duck if we lose either one of the two 0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:52.879 Senate or House. I think the answer to that is yes. 0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:55.560 So that's kind of what I see, Bobby, What do 0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:56.960 you see? 0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:59.040 I see We're going to go ahead and extend the 0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:02.400 cultural a little bit more that I've discussed this summer 0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:05.480 I think will be hot and coming into South America. 0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:08.200 We're going to take more attention off Venezuela and put 0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:09.320 it down into Ecuador. 0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:12.359 You know, I tell you that way, I'm sorry, going 0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:12.640 to have. 0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:14.719 To support the no, no, no, we have to support the 0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:17.719 Ecuador and president. We've had contractors down there, I know, 0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:20.480 since first March, you know. And that way we got 0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:23.240 the bottom end of Columbian we have the top end also. 0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:25.840 Okay, you know what, And I've heard some people grumbling 0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:30.160 about Trump's attention to South America, but it's all about 0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:34.680 the Monroe Doctrine and that part of the world has 0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:39.080 been so ignored by us for so long that I 0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:42.279 think it's a wise move that he's doing that. And 0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:45.759 also Red China, they're making a play for a lot 0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:48.320 of those countries down there too, So we got to 0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:50.880 do it. I mean, the bottom line is he's doing 0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:54.520 what other presidents should have been doing but didn't want 0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:54.799 to do. 0:53:56.200 --> 0:53:56.560 Well. 0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:58.920 We have to protect the Western hemisphere. And if you 0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:01.480 go into the Monroe and it also says that we 0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:04.080 will stay out of European affairs. 0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:06.560 Yeah, well, I don't know. Yesterday, I don't know if 0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:09.400 you were listening. I had a guest on that was 0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:13.839 talking about just that, the situation with the strategic plan 0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:17.600 that was just released not too long ago. Where in 0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:21.399 the past years it's been eurocentric, this one. Yeah, still 0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:23.880 concerns about Europe, but it's not the whole ball of 0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:24.560 wax though. 0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:28.840 Well, it will hurt us more if we ever have 0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:33.000 to deal with an embargo around Taiwan. Yeah, and their 0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:37.359 landing crafts have been completed yet almost a year now, 0:54:37.400 --> 0:54:39.400 and the three factories that they were building them in 0:54:39.520 --> 0:54:41.799 they went ahead and done other things with them. Oh. 0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:45.520 Really, they're prepared. They're prepared, and that's interesting. 0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:48.640 Yeah, and all they have to do is the embargo 0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:51.720 around it, and they don't have to do any aerial 0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:54.160 or attacks or anything like that. The embargo will take 0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:57.560 care of it. And within seventy two hours, I guarantee 0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:01.080 you the world will feel the impact because of the CHIP, no. 0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:04.480 Question about it. And you know, Trump, unlike some other presidents, 0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:08.799 stood firm with Taiwan and make no mistake about it. 0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:12.600 And I know you really realize this, Bobby. The Chinese 0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:16.359 want Taiwan back, and they've wanted that, wanted it back 0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:20.839 ever since Chang Kai Shek was chased by Mao over 0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:25.600 to for most of Taiwan, and they believe strongly that 0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:29.200 that is a part of Red China. They want to 0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:31.920 do it. I also heard just I think it was yesterday, 0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:35.880 maybe the day before, that the Chinese jets are doing 0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:41.000 some very provocative flyovers, very very close to Taiwan. So 0:55:41.640 --> 0:55:44.440 he's spoiling for a fight. You know, I thought, and 0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:47.320 I said this more than once. I thought for sure 0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:52.080 that that president she would make a play for Taiwan 0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:55.560 during the Biden administration. You know, he's got to know 0:55:55.920 --> 0:55:58.600 if he drives out with Trump, Trump's going to respond. 0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:00.279 Biden probably wouldn't have. 0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:04.520 I see, it's going to be a hot summer. Yeah, 0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:06.799 that's the best way I can put it. You can 0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:09.520 call it a black Swan event or whatever you want to. 0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:11.680 And I tell people all the time, be prepared for 0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:14.000 the seventy two hour window. Yeah, they said, what are 0:56:14.040 --> 0:56:16.239 you talking about? And I said, you don't even have 0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:19.440 enough water in your home or anything. Provisions to go 0:56:19.480 --> 0:56:21.239 ahead and take care of it, because if you're not 0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:24.040 prepared for the first seventy two hours, it'll be very 0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:25.480 difficult to get prepared for. 0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:28.080 No question about it. And you know, had you said 0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:30.480 something like that about ten years ago, I'd say, well, 0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:34.040 maybe that's a little bit of an overreaction, not now, 0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:37.080 because who knows what in the heck is going to happen, 0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:39.719 And I think people be wise to be prepared. And 0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:44.920 obviously no real patriot wants that, but in this world, 0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:48.360 who knows. But hey, I appreciate the call. I appreciate 0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:50.359 you looking into the future too. 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:53.960 The next year, Bobby, Well, God bless you your family 0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:56.040 and all your friends this new holiday season. 0:56:56.200 --> 0:57:00.560 So you too, you too, thank you. Yeah, you know 0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:03.800 that Taiwan thing, I mean, that is just so close 0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:07.759 to blowing. But you know, I think President she good 0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:11.880 chance he'll sit on his hands until Trump is finished, 0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:14.640 and then, I mean hopefully we get JD. Vans, and 0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:18.560 I believe that he would continue the president's policy for 0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:21.120 strong support for Taiwan. I mean, that's the way it's 0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:25.040 been since nineteen forty eight, and we can't welsh on 0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:29.680 our promises. So oh, it's an interesting and dangerous world 0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:33.320 we're living in. Let me talk to Mike in Claremont County. Hey, 0:57:33.320 --> 0:57:34.080 good morning, Mike. 0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:39.560 Hey before I forget, happy New year, classmate, And did 0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:42.120 I hear you correctly on the Saturday Show that you're 0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:42.920 a new grandparent. 0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:46.520 Yes, sir, I am, I am. I got a little 0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:50.360 granddaughter and I am so happy. Her name is Estelle, 0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:53.040 but we're going to call her Stella and it's been 0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:55.640 a long time coming from me. And I know who 0:57:55.680 --> 0:57:58.840 this mic is. This is a mit not only my 0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:02.400 high school class mate, but grade school class make correct 0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:05.040 all the way back. Yes, sir, there you go. Brother 0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:09.120 spent thirty three years, I believe in the Navy, the 0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:11.720 overwhelming majority of that on a submarine. Am I right? 0:58:12.400 --> 0:58:16.000 Yes, sir, power the deep and we had our own 0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:21.600 ways to celebrate. I was out one time under underway 0:58:21.720 --> 0:58:25.240 and but once again, let's never forget our armed forces 0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:27.520 that are out there standing to watch during this difficult 0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:29.280 time and separation from their families. 0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:32.720 You are so right, you know. I had a caller 0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:36.720 the other day talk about the how China is really 0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:41.000 rebooting their navy and building warships. Is that something that 0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:43.520 you pay attention to, Mike, And do you have any 0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:44.200 take on it? 0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:45.720 Absolutely? 0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:49.280 I retired to No. Three, but even then, pretty much 0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:52.240 the Pacific is covered by our bases in Pearl Harbor 0:58:52.280 --> 0:58:55.800 and San Diego, but we saw the threat even in 0:58:55.840 --> 0:58:58.640 the late nineties early two thousands to where we now 0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:03.440 have five deployed submarines in even one of our ssgns. 0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:06.240 Those are the old missile carrion boats that are fully 0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:09.240 loaded with Tomahawks. They're now home based in Guam, so 0:59:09.320 --> 0:59:12.320 that cuts down that travel time. So that has always 0:59:12.360 --> 0:59:15.520 been on the radar, and as well as we've had 0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:18.480 bases in Yakuska, Japan, all all the way back into 0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:23.200 the seventies, so we are definitely monitoring the situation, no doubt. 0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:26.920 Well in Japan is re arming too, and in my 0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:29.640 opinion that's a good thing. I mean, they need to 0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:32.160 start holding up their end of the thing too, and 0:59:32.400 --> 0:59:36.200 apparently they're in a big rebuilding program. 0:59:36.280 --> 0:59:39.680 Absolutely, And one thing that's just tremendous. It was at 0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:41.760 the beginning of this year and actually got started in 0:59:41.800 --> 0:59:46.080 a last administration to where but unprecedented, to where our 0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:50.160 Australian Navy counterparts we are actually building the new Virginia 0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:53.160 class fat attack thumbornes and they will get the exact 0:59:53.320 --> 0:59:57.000 copy of what we have. So that shows that trust 0:59:57.000 --> 1:00:00.240 with that alliance and once again realizing Holen pull and 1:00:00.280 --> 1:00:02.720 that part of the Pacific Ocean is are they going. 1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:04.760 To name one of those things after you, Mike? I 1:00:04.760 --> 1:00:10.360 think they should. 1:00:10.480 --> 1:00:13.600 We'll call it the USS Panther or the USS outdr 1:00:13.640 --> 1:00:14.200 How about that? 1:00:14.240 --> 1:00:17.560 There you go, brother, Hey, listeny real quick, Yeah, sure, 1:00:17.600 --> 1:00:18.280 go ahead. 1:00:18.040 --> 1:00:19.760 Real quick on Minnesota if I may. 1:00:19.920 --> 1:00:22.600 You know, I'm as outraged as you are, but not 1:00:22.720 --> 1:00:25.400 surprised because this is where all the pushback came from 1:00:25.480 --> 1:00:28.720 DOGE when they started banging up USA. I d it's 1:00:28.760 --> 1:00:31.240 not about the kids, it's about people that were losing 1:00:31.280 --> 1:00:33.720 their cash cow. And the one video that I just 1:00:33.840 --> 1:00:36.440 loved because obviously Minnesota gets a lot more snow than 1:00:36.480 --> 1:00:38.840 we do, so a little two or three in snowfall 1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:41.360 is not going to stop any operations up there. But 1:00:41.400 --> 1:00:43.920 that wonderful reporter that went to one of those learning 1:00:44.000 --> 1:00:49.440 centers or excuse me leering right, Not only was the 1:00:49.440 --> 1:00:52.360 the parking lot not plowed, there was not one car track, 1:00:52.480 --> 1:00:54.840 not one footprint, and he went back a couple of days. 1:00:54.880 --> 1:00:59.000 So you know, Inspector KLUSA could have figured that one out. 1:00:59.120 --> 1:00:59.320 Yeah. 1:00:59.360 --> 1:01:03.600 So I think our good auditor, mister Faber, I don't 1:01:03.600 --> 1:01:05.880 think he'll be celebrating tonight. He better be cracking the 1:01:05.880 --> 1:01:08.200 books open because I think, once again, to quote a 1:01:08.240 --> 1:01:10.920 famous American being yourself, this is just a tip of 1:01:10.920 --> 1:01:12.080 the Iceberg and Columbus. 1:01:12.160 --> 1:01:12.520 Amen. 1:01:12.600 --> 1:01:12.920 Brother. 1:01:13.200 --> 1:01:15.200 I don't know if you saw or not or heard 1:01:15.240 --> 1:01:18.800 at the top of the show. My producer was able 1:01:18.800 --> 1:01:20.920 to find that thing in Columbus, so it's going to 1:01:21.000 --> 1:01:23.720 break up there. But really appreciate the call, Mike, and 1:01:24.040 --> 1:01:25.080 happy I hear to you. 1:01:25.720 --> 1:01:26.600 Happy New Year, sir. 1:01:26.680 --> 1:01:30.600 Okay, brother, thank you. Yeah. Thirty three years in the 1:01:30.720 --> 1:01:34.520 United States Navy and most of them on submarines. I'll 1:01:34.560 --> 1:01:37.480 tell you what, that's a hell of a service record. Hey, 1:01:37.600 --> 1:01:40.280 let's do this. Let's take a short break and we'll 1:01:40.280 --> 1:01:44.520 come back and maybe just maybe even do a little 1:01:44.520 --> 1:01:48.200 bit of fluff until we have our guest, Kevin Burton 1:01:48.400 --> 1:01:51.479 at eleven o'clock. And boy, that's going to be interesting too. 1:01:52.080 --> 1:01:54.440 We're going to play an end of the year political 1:01:54.880 --> 1:01:58.680 game lightning Round. What's going to happen is I'm going 1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:02.000 to read a political question, JI ask Kevin a political question. 1:02:02.400 --> 1:02:04.800 He has to come up with a one word answer, 1:02:04.800 --> 1:02:07.320 and I think it'll be fun. Hey, we will be 1:02:07.360 --> 1:02:13.800 back Mike Allen in for Sloaney seven hundred WLW ten 1:02:13.840 --> 1:02:17.160 to fifty four News Radio seven hundred WLW, Mike Allen 1:02:17.240 --> 1:02:20.960 in four Scott Sloan on New Year's Eve be here 1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:26.120 tomorrow too, and tomorrow we will do a substantial amount 1:02:26.280 --> 1:02:28.720 of what was referred to as fluff, and it kind 1:02:28.760 --> 1:02:32.280 of is. But let's get a little preview of that now. 1:02:33.000 --> 1:02:36.400 CNN Believe It or Not has what looks to be 1:02:36.960 --> 1:02:41.760 a pretty straightforward and pretty unbiased Believe It or Not 1:02:42.160 --> 1:02:47.720 twenty twenty five. In review fast Facts starting with January, 1:02:47.760 --> 1:02:52.280 the first appropriately enough sad story. Fourteen people are killed 1:02:52.280 --> 1:02:55.760 in dozens injured. Oh man, I remember this when a 1:02:55.880 --> 1:02:59.360 driver rams's pickup truck into a crowd during a New 1:02:59.440 --> 1:03:03.720 Year's Eve celebration on Bourbon Street in New Orleans. The 1:03:03.760 --> 1:03:07.360 FBI described the event as an act of terrorism. The 1:03:07.520 --> 1:03:10.600 driver who was killed in the shootout with police was 1:03:10.680 --> 1:03:16.600 identified as Shamsud didn Jabbar. Imagine that forty two year 1:03:16.600 --> 1:03:20.400 old Army veteran from Texas who just happened to have 1:03:20.600 --> 1:03:25.320 an ISIS flag in his truck. And I remember watching that. 1:03:25.640 --> 1:03:29.479 I mean, that was really bad. And you know, I'm 1:03:29.640 --> 1:03:33.520 loath to criticize cops in any way, shape or form, 1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:37.080 But the New Orleans Police Department, I think, starting with 1:03:37.200 --> 1:03:41.240 the chief, had some real problems down there, not just that, 1:03:41.440 --> 1:03:43.240 but other things too. I guess the big one on 1:03:43.280 --> 1:03:47.360 that one was you know those things, those barriers that 1:03:47.800 --> 1:03:52.080 you have that supposedly we'll keep a car from going 1:03:52.120 --> 1:03:53.920 somewhere that the police don't want them to go. I 1:03:53.920 --> 1:03:55.880 guess either it didn't work or they didn't have it, 1:03:56.000 --> 1:04:00.160 but hopefully they got that situation taken care of. I'll 1:04:00.160 --> 1:04:03.920 tell you just a personal story with respect to New Orleans. 1:04:04.200 --> 1:04:07.960 This wasn't. This one on January first was not the 1:04:08.000 --> 1:04:12.360 big one. Marty Gras I took with buddy. My daughter 1:04:12.400 --> 1:04:14.640 went to school at spring Hill College, which is close 1:04:14.680 --> 1:04:18.080 to New Orleans. Anyway, my buddy and I took the 1:04:18.160 --> 1:04:22.520 train to New Orleans to see Marty Gras spend some 1:04:22.560 --> 1:04:25.400 time with my daughter. It's not something i'd ever do again. 1:04:26.080 --> 1:04:28.360 It was cool, I mean it really was just the 1:04:28.480 --> 1:04:34.240 pageantry and everything else. But Bourbon Street is absolutely crazy, 1:04:34.880 --> 1:04:39.800 I mean stupid, crazy, dangerous crazy, and from what I understand, 1:04:39.880 --> 1:04:42.240 it hasn't gotten any better. I have been to New 1:04:42.360 --> 1:04:45.280 Orleans a couple times after that, not during Marty Gras. 1:04:45.560 --> 1:04:48.720 It's a really cool place. But anyway, it's moved right 1:04:48.760 --> 1:04:54.640 along here in the fluff department. January seventh of this year, wildfire. Oh, 1:04:54.680 --> 1:04:58.640 this is horrible. Wildfire swept through Los Angeles. Dozens are 1:04:58.720 --> 1:05:02.600 killed in more than sixteen thousand structures, You're damaged. Over 1:05:02.720 --> 1:05:07.120 thirty thousand acres are burned in the Eton and Palisades fires. 1:05:07.600 --> 1:05:11.200 The Eaton and Palisades fires rank as the second and 1:05:11.400 --> 1:05:17.600 third most destructive wildfires in Southern California history. That was 1:05:17.720 --> 1:05:20.760 just awful, And if I'm not mistaken, I didn't really 1:05:21.160 --> 1:05:23.840 pay that much attention to it. I think there's a 1:05:23.920 --> 1:05:26.720 report out on that that just came out maybe this 1:05:26.840 --> 1:05:30.160 week that a lot of people don't seem to be 1:05:30.200 --> 1:05:33.120 happy with and don't seem to think that it was 1:05:33.960 --> 1:05:37.400 really comprehensive enough. Maybe I'll take a look at that 1:05:37.520 --> 1:05:41.360 and we can talk about that later. January seventh, same day, 1:05:41.400 --> 1:05:46.120 Mark Zuckerberg announced that Meta will adjust its content review 1:05:46.200 --> 1:05:50.000 policies on Facebook and Instagram. Uh yeah, I remember this, 1:05:50.520 --> 1:05:55.040 getting rid of fact checkers and replacing them with user 1:05:55.240 --> 1:06:01.240 generated community notes, similar to Elon Musk's at Well, you know, 1:06:01.280 --> 1:06:04.240 the thing with fact checkers are and if you follow 1:06:04.320 --> 1:06:07.760 me this stuff nine times out of ten with alleged 1:06:07.840 --> 1:06:11.160 fact checkers. The Conservatives get the short end of the 1:06:11.200 --> 1:06:15.360 stick on that, so they're not really the majority, not 1:06:15.640 --> 1:06:19.600 really unbiased fact checkers. So that doesn't break my heart 1:06:19.640 --> 1:06:22.600 that they got rid of them. Ah, here's one. And 1:06:22.640 --> 1:06:25.520 you know, it's just so hard to believe that this 1:06:25.680 --> 1:06:30.800 is only one year ago. Okay. January tenth, former President 1:06:30.840 --> 1:06:35.200 Donald Trump is sentenced to unconditional discharge for his conviction 1:06:35.360 --> 1:06:38.960 last year on thirty four charges of business fraud related 1:06:38.960 --> 1:06:42.520 to a hush money payment two Stormy alleged hush money. 1:06:42.720 --> 1:06:44.400 It doesn't say that, I'm gonna put it in there, 1:06:44.640 --> 1:06:48.880 alleged hush money payment to Stormy Daniels. This means he 1:06:48.960 --> 1:06:51.280 will not be in prison, No, I don't think so, 1:06:52.360 --> 1:06:56.800 find or face probation. But his conviction still stands, and 1:06:56.840 --> 1:07:00.360 he will enter office as a convicted felon. And now 1:07:00.440 --> 1:07:03.480 you know what, I said something at the very beginning, 1:07:03.760 --> 1:07:06.360 it looked like it was straightforward. It looked like it 1:07:06.400 --> 1:07:11.000 was down the middle. But I take that back. Yeah, 1:07:11.040 --> 1:07:13.400 that could be written a lot better and a lot 1:07:13.480 --> 1:07:18.040 more accurately. January twentieth, Before leaving office, President Joe Biden 1:07:18.640 --> 1:07:22.240 issues a slate of preemptive pardons. Yeah, quite a few 1:07:22.560 --> 1:07:25.920 for prominent critics of President elect Trump. Now see now 1:07:25.920 --> 1:07:28.200 they're making up for it by being fair. Later, he 1:07:28.280 --> 1:07:32.320 issues pardons for members of his family to wit the 1:07:32.360 --> 1:07:34.480 Biden crime family. Hey, we got to leave it here 1:07:34.480 --> 1:07:36.200 because we got to break for the news. But when 1:07:36.240 --> 1:07:39.280 we get back, we're gonna be talking to Kevin Burton. 1:07:39.760 --> 1:07:42.760 We're gonna have the end of the year political game show, 1:07:42.840 --> 1:07:45.720 the Lightning Round. I think it'll be fun. Mike Allen 1:07:45.840 --> 1:07:48.080 in for Slowey seven hundred WLW. 1:07:48.280 --> 1:07:49.840 Do you want to be an American? 1:07:51.520 --> 1:07:56.000 Hey, we're back. Mike Allen in for Slowey seven hundred WLW. 1:07:56.400 --> 1:07:59.240 Be in for him tomorrow as well. Wanted to tell 1:07:59.280 --> 1:08:03.959 you at we are talking Ohio State versus Miami, which 1:08:04.000 --> 1:08:06.720 you will be able to hear tonight on the big one, 1:08:07.000 --> 1:08:10.960 big big game, and I'm gonna be talking to talking 1:08:11.000 --> 1:08:13.920 about it with I'm gonna make it his surprise. But 1:08:15.080 --> 1:08:18.559 this dude knows his Ohio State football, so that'll be fun. 1:08:18.600 --> 1:08:22.160 We'll do that at eleven thirty. But in the meantime, 1:08:22.680 --> 1:08:24.639 I think this is gonna be fun. We're gonna talk 1:08:24.680 --> 1:08:28.360 to independent political analyst. We talked to him quite a bit, 1:08:28.439 --> 1:08:31.120 Kevin Burton. But we're gonna do it kind of in 1:08:31.200 --> 1:08:34.519 a fun way. So Kevin, thank you so much for 1:08:34.600 --> 1:08:37.000 calling and participating in this today. 1:08:38.280 --> 1:08:39.559 Mike, thank you for having me. 1:08:39.920 --> 1:08:42.920 Okay, if you're ready, I'm ready. 1:08:43.640 --> 1:08:44.240 I'm ready. 1:08:44.479 --> 1:08:47.120 Okay, here we go. This is kind of, I think 1:08:47.120 --> 1:08:49.439 a fun idea for you know, kind of an end 1:08:49.479 --> 1:08:53.400 of the year. It's gonna be a political lightning round. 1:08:53.520 --> 1:08:57.960 So I'm gonna mention something to Kevin, a political event 1:08:58.080 --> 1:09:01.599 or something that happened, and he has to describe that 1:09:02.520 --> 1:09:06.799 with one word. Of course, we can expound on it later. Okay, 1:09:06.920 --> 1:09:10.160 let's start off with this, Kevin, pretty general, what is 1:09:10.280 --> 1:09:14.599 one word that you would use to describe politics this year? 1:09:16.800 --> 1:09:17.559 Dumpster fire? 1:09:18.080 --> 1:09:21.800 I'm sorry, dumpster fire. Well, I'll tell you what it's 1:09:22.520 --> 1:09:25.040 It's hard to disagree with that, But tell me why 1:09:25.080 --> 1:09:25.640 you say that. 1:09:28.000 --> 1:09:29.880 I mean, I just think you look locally, I think 1:09:29.880 --> 1:09:32.840 you look nationally. We had stories both sides of the 1:09:32.880 --> 1:09:36.840 aisles of just what the heck are they doing? Can 1:09:36.920 --> 1:09:39.479 we think of any major legislation that was passed? 1:09:39.720 --> 1:09:40.280 No? 1:09:40.080 --> 1:09:44.439 No, And it's it's all for clicks. And all for attention. 1:09:45.960 --> 1:09:48.599 I just can't think of any milestones that were passed, 1:09:49.200 --> 1:09:52.040 you know, that are helping the American people. So my 1:09:52.160 --> 1:09:53.639 word would be dumpster fire. 1:09:53.720 --> 1:09:56.599 Okay, okay, you know what, I'd have to agree with that, 1:09:57.240 --> 1:10:01.040 all right, moving right along, This is a good one too, boy, 1:10:01.080 --> 1:10:03.439 This could be a lot of people who had the 1:10:03.479 --> 1:10:07.720 worst week in politics this year. Your thoughts on that, 1:10:08.000 --> 1:10:08.639 Kevin Burton. 1:10:09.960 --> 1:10:14.559 So I'll do one local than one national, Okay, I 1:10:14.600 --> 1:10:17.680 think local. It has to be Victoria Parks for her 1:10:17.720 --> 1:10:22.639 comments of they deserved it after the fight. I think 1:10:22.640 --> 1:10:26.680 that was the worst week in politics, stand for everything. 1:10:26.320 --> 1:10:27.400 That you didn't like, yep. 1:10:28.760 --> 1:10:33.160 And then Nashally, I'm gonna go with Elon Musk. His 1:10:33.320 --> 1:10:37.840 fall has been pretty substantial. You know, he's not the 1:10:37.880 --> 1:10:42.760 Golden Boy anymore, his fallout with Trump, his you know, 1:10:42.880 --> 1:10:45.360 the stock prices of Tesla going down. 1:10:45.439 --> 1:10:46.879 So those would be my two answers. 1:10:47.000 --> 1:10:50.400 You know, yeah, I agree with both a little bit 1:10:50.400 --> 1:10:53.519 more with Victoria Parks. And you know, I don't know her, 1:10:53.760 --> 1:10:55.599 I had never met or don't know anything about her, 1:10:55.640 --> 1:10:58.880 but my goodness, what a horrible thing to say. And 1:10:59.320 --> 1:11:01.680 that whole thing is still going on Kevin Is. I'm 1:11:01.680 --> 1:11:05.599 sure you probably know. I guess they extended the time 1:11:06.040 --> 1:11:09.160 for Frost Brown the law firm to try to find 1:11:09.200 --> 1:11:12.400 something that she did wrong to give the city a 1:11:12.439 --> 1:11:15.080 Cincinnati a basis for firing her. 1:11:15.760 --> 1:11:19.800 As we know, Billibool hours are undefeated, especially between Christmas 1:11:20.200 --> 1:11:25.320 and Thanksgiving. So I mean, good for UFBT, good for 1:11:25.400 --> 1:11:26.839 you with those hours. 1:11:27.080 --> 1:11:29.160 That's pretty good. And you're not even a lawyer, but 1:11:29.680 --> 1:11:33.160 you do get the drill man. That's pretty good. All right, 1:11:33.240 --> 1:11:38.040 all right, moving right along, which political story made you 1:11:38.080 --> 1:11:44.080 see what? Wait? No, I'm sorry, wait what. I'm waiting 1:11:44.080 --> 1:11:45.599 to hear what you say about this one. 1:11:47.560 --> 1:11:50.160 Uh, I'm gonna have to go with our mayor and 1:11:50.280 --> 1:11:58.040 the repo that well, you know, you know, there's a 1:11:58.080 --> 1:12:01.360 lot of things that as political consultants you can try 1:12:01.400 --> 1:12:08.680 to stop try to plan for. Getting a car repossessed 1:12:08.760 --> 1:12:11.880 is not one of them, you know, So that that 1:12:11.920 --> 1:12:15.759 would be my weight what Yeah, he took a beating 1:12:15.800 --> 1:12:22.120 on that one. My my national one would probably be 1:12:25.479 --> 1:12:30.599 Golf of Mexico. I still I'm just like, I wait, 1:12:30.640 --> 1:12:34.360 what but that is a less serious one. 1:12:34.760 --> 1:12:37.960 The Golf of America. Now, I don't know, I mean 1:12:37.960 --> 1:12:40.880 when they're making new maps and things. Since Trump did that, 1:12:41.400 --> 1:12:44.840 are people actually like putting in the golf of America 1:12:45.040 --> 1:12:49.000 or Yeah? I don't know. I mean I don't obviously 1:12:49.040 --> 1:12:51.559 he does any other power to change what people think. 1:12:51.640 --> 1:12:54.599 But I kind of scratched my head on that. I 1:12:54.640 --> 1:12:58.559 think it was a play to americanized things. 1:12:58.600 --> 1:13:01.840 I guess, yeah, yeah, but it's it's silly. I don't 1:13:01.840 --> 1:13:07.839 think it's a real issue. Call it what you want. 1:13:06.640 --> 1:13:07.720 It, I get it. 1:13:09.880 --> 1:13:14.200 What issue are people pretending to care about? That's a 1:13:14.240 --> 1:13:16.120 good one. I want to know what you think. 1:13:20.040 --> 1:13:23.880 Civility now that's good Ken. 1:13:23.840 --> 1:13:27.200 Do you think do you think people really don't care 1:13:27.240 --> 1:13:29.760 about that? Because man, I sure hear a lot of 1:13:29.800 --> 1:13:32.160 people saying, and I'm one of them, it would be 1:13:32.240 --> 1:13:35.920 nice if we could just have a little bit of bipartisanship, 1:13:36.360 --> 1:13:40.639 a little bit of civility. But now you're you're pretty grizzled, 1:13:40.680 --> 1:13:43.400 I guess, and jaded is a political consultant, But you 1:13:43.479 --> 1:13:45.920 really you really don't think people care about that? 1:13:47.560 --> 1:13:51.559 I mean, I just go back to Okay, whenever we 1:13:51.640 --> 1:13:55.439 have a controversy or anything, the same people who want 1:13:55.479 --> 1:13:59.080 praise for bringing the community together will pare it apart, 1:14:00.240 --> 1:14:05.040 people keep voting Congress the exact same, They keep voting 1:14:05.120 --> 1:14:08.840 the exact same. Right, if people wanted real change, they 1:14:08.880 --> 1:14:14.240 would actually show with their ballot box. So until that happens, 1:14:14.240 --> 1:14:16.960 that would be my word. And you know, me and 1:14:16.960 --> 1:14:19.240 Mike we didn't plan this where this is just all 1:14:19.320 --> 1:14:20.559 rapid fire. 1:14:21.960 --> 1:14:24.559 So no, and I get it too. And you make 1:14:24.600 --> 1:14:28.120 a good point. If people really felt that way, perhaps 1:14:28.120 --> 1:14:31.320 there'd be more crossover voting, which is I understand it. 1:14:31.360 --> 1:14:34.880 There is very little, if any of that, So I 1:14:34.920 --> 1:14:37.400 get it. I get it. Okay, moving right along here. 1:14:37.439 --> 1:14:42.640 What issue do people actually care about? But politicians ignore. 1:14:44.760 --> 1:14:49.480 Campaign finance? Campaign limits? 1:14:50.680 --> 1:14:50.920 You know? 1:14:51.040 --> 1:14:56.600 You look, people want constitutional limits on Congress people, but 1:14:56.680 --> 1:14:59.880 guess who makes the laws they do? So that's what 1:15:00.000 --> 1:15:03.080 why we won't ever see it. You know, I think 1:15:03.120 --> 1:15:06.080 almost universally we all agree that you shouldn't be in 1:15:06.120 --> 1:15:07.480 there for sixty years. 1:15:07.800 --> 1:15:10.240 Yeah, but they don't. 1:15:10.080 --> 1:15:12.880 Do anything at that well, because they're the one who 1:15:12.880 --> 1:15:15.280 make the walls. The only time Democrats and Republicans work 1:15:15.360 --> 1:15:20.120 together is when it's the benefit themselves or insider trading. Yeah, 1:15:20.479 --> 1:15:23.280 insider trading. Your job is to do it for the 1:15:23.840 --> 1:15:26.040 is to be there for the public not to get wealthy. 1:15:26.360 --> 1:15:29.480 No, I get that, Thank you very much, Nancy Pelosi. 1:15:29.880 --> 1:15:33.240 All right, moving along here, one local project, boy, I 1:15:33.280 --> 1:15:35.960 know what mine is on this one one local project 1:15:36.000 --> 1:15:43.280 you hear about constantly, but still don't totally understand your pick. 1:15:44.760 --> 1:15:45.920 I'm gonna go with the banks. 1:15:45.960 --> 1:15:50.000 What are we doing? Yeah, there's still there's still you know, 1:15:50.120 --> 1:15:53.960 beams coming out of it. I mean, objectively, the Banks 1:15:53.960 --> 1:15:55.559 has not been what we thought it was going to be. 1:15:56.880 --> 1:15:59.120 You know, we always hear about it. It's the gateway 1:15:59.200 --> 1:16:02.040 to you know, with the city for a lot of 1:16:02.200 --> 1:16:05.679 entry ways, and you know, it's our entertainment section, and 1:16:05.760 --> 1:16:07.880 it just hasn't done what it was supposed to do. 1:16:08.360 --> 1:16:11.960 How many times have we seen bars close, their restaurants close, 1:16:12.080 --> 1:16:17.200 their incidents happen at Stale Park. I just think objectively, 1:16:17.479 --> 1:16:18.759 the Banks has been a failure. 1:16:19.120 --> 1:16:21.240 Well you know what I mean, It's one of those 1:16:21.280 --> 1:16:24.479 deals where if you get too much crime down there, 1:16:24.479 --> 1:16:26.880 which I think we probably have now, like you said, 1:16:26.920 --> 1:16:30.080 people are just going to stop coming. And boy, what 1:16:30.280 --> 1:16:33.840 a shame that would be because so much money was 1:16:33.920 --> 1:16:36.439 dumped in there. And really I've been down there a 1:16:36.439 --> 1:16:39.599 couple times this summer for different things. It's I mean, 1:16:39.640 --> 1:16:41.760 it really is kind of a show place. But I 1:16:41.800 --> 1:16:44.760 guess we'll see. Okay, my answer to this one. And 1:16:44.800 --> 1:16:47.160 I'm just volunteering this. I know this is your game. 1:16:47.680 --> 1:16:50.800 One local project you hear about constantly but still don't 1:16:50.840 --> 1:16:54.760 totally understand. Well, actually it would be two. The first one, 1:16:55.120 --> 1:16:58.400 on a micro level would be the Western Hills Viaduct. 1:16:58.800 --> 1:17:02.439 You know, we've been being a good West Sider. You 1:17:02.479 --> 1:17:05.200 knew i'd do that. We've been hearing about that damn 1:17:05.280 --> 1:17:10.360 thing supposedly getting fixed for years and years and years. 1:17:10.680 --> 1:17:13.040 I had Bill Sites on when Bill was still in 1:17:13.080 --> 1:17:16.040 the High Legislature. Bill was the guy that kind of 1:17:16.640 --> 1:17:19.679 han showed that thing. And this is like two years ago. 1:17:19.760 --> 1:17:22.960 And Bill said, and I'm not criticizing him at all, 1:17:23.000 --> 1:17:25.800 but for Bill Sites it wouldn't have gotten done. But 1:17:26.000 --> 1:17:27.960 I got the impression that it was gonna be like 1:17:28.240 --> 1:17:32.000 right now. Well, we had an announcement not too long 1:17:32.040 --> 1:17:35.600 ago that well, now, okay, you know, because of inflation, 1:17:36.280 --> 1:17:39.160 instead of three lanes each way, we're knocking it down 1:17:39.240 --> 1:17:42.000 to two. Oh and by the way, I think it's 1:17:42.400 --> 1:17:45.960 twenty twenty nine. Now they're looking at SO and the 1:17:46.000 --> 1:17:49.240 other one on the on the macro level would have 1:17:49.400 --> 1:17:52.200 to be in you're a Kentucky guy, I think you can. 1:17:52.520 --> 1:17:56.440 You can relate to this the Brent Spence Bridge replacing 1:17:56.479 --> 1:17:59.800 that thing. Oh, you know it's gonna be. I'm gonna 1:17:59.840 --> 1:18:02.559 be dead and in my grave for a long long 1:18:02.640 --> 1:18:06.360 time when that thing is finally finished. If it is, 1:18:06.600 --> 1:18:09.080 you know, Kentucky and Ohio finally got together on the 1:18:09.160 --> 1:18:11.960 damn thing. And I don't know, it just doesn't seem 1:18:12.000 --> 1:18:15.160 like any grounds getting moved or any progress is being made. 1:18:15.479 --> 1:18:19.599 Do you have any perspective on that? Being Northern Kentuckian. 1:18:20.680 --> 1:18:23.599 Well, someone went to house in Heathern, Kentucky. I'm willing 1:18:23.600 --> 1:18:27.280 to put my house up when they start the construction, 1:18:27.640 --> 1:18:29.880 really because it's going to be it's going to be 1:18:29.880 --> 1:18:32.920 a nightmare. I know that they have started to close out. 1:18:33.080 --> 1:18:35.040 If you go into like long Worth Haul, they show 1:18:35.040 --> 1:18:37.920 where they're gonna show do the demolition and things like that. 1:18:39.600 --> 1:18:42.880 You know, if you've been to Lolsbo or Columbus at all, 1:18:43.000 --> 1:18:45.600 you know what it's like to drive through traffic for 1:18:45.640 --> 1:18:48.840 the last ten years. And unfortunately that's going to be 1:18:50.160 --> 1:18:52.960 Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky for the next ten years. 1:18:53.080 --> 1:18:56.599 It's a I tell this story all the time. It's relevant. 1:18:56.640 --> 1:19:00.040 My father was a civil engineer and he was on 1:19:00.200 --> 1:19:02.920 some board. It wasn't OKAYI but this is like in 1:19:02.960 --> 1:19:06.479 the mid fifties, I guess. And he tells the story 1:19:06.560 --> 1:19:09.360 that when they were talking about the Brent Spence Bridge 1:19:09.360 --> 1:19:13.880 and building it, he and all of the professionals, the engineers, said, 1:19:14.320 --> 1:19:16.920 no way, no way, no way. Three lanes is not 1:19:17.080 --> 1:19:19.320 going to be big enough. You can't do it. It's 1:19:19.360 --> 1:19:22.240 going to be obsolete the day it opens. And I 1:19:22.280 --> 1:19:26.240 think he and the other experts were kind of their 1:19:26.280 --> 1:19:29.200 point of view certainly was the appropriate one. But I 1:19:29.200 --> 1:19:31.640 guess we shall see. But I sure ain't holding my 1:19:31.760 --> 1:19:35.759 breath on that one at all. Okay, moving right along 1:19:35.920 --> 1:19:39.920 what local political debate feels way bigger online? Ah, this 1:19:40.080 --> 1:19:43.840 is good, way bigger online than in real life. Boy, 1:19:43.880 --> 1:19:44.959 that could be anything. 1:19:46.560 --> 1:19:49.920 It was the fight the Democrats swept. They got asked, 1:19:49.920 --> 1:19:51.040 I've got eighty percent. 1:19:50.760 --> 1:19:51.400 Of the vote. 1:19:51.800 --> 1:19:54.719 Yeah, it was all the Charter, on the media and everything, 1:19:54.760 --> 1:19:59.040 but the voters didn't care. So we're doing like electoral 1:20:00.080 --> 1:20:01.600 has to be that issue. 1:20:01.280 --> 1:20:03.839 No question, no question, you know. And I was one 1:20:04.080 --> 1:20:06.479 I mean, there was some pretty uh I think, pretty 1:20:06.520 --> 1:20:12.280 good Republican candidates for city council. Of course, a Christopher 1:20:12.320 --> 1:20:17.320 Smitheman comes to mind, Liz Keating and others too, Steve Gooden, 1:20:17.400 --> 1:20:20.320 Dondree House. But boy, at the end of the day, 1:20:20.800 --> 1:20:24.280 what a whooping. And I've made this bold prediction. Uh, 1:20:24.400 --> 1:20:25.880 you know, I don't want it to be true, but 1:20:26.080 --> 1:20:28.000 I think it's going to be. We're not going to 1:20:28.040 --> 1:20:32.280 see a Republican elected mayor or council in the rest 1:20:32.280 --> 1:20:36.280 of my lifetime. I mean, what a butt whipping that was. 1:20:36.680 --> 1:20:39.720 Let me ask you, Kevin, you always shoot straight. Did 1:20:39.800 --> 1:20:42.680 you think it was going to be that bad for 1:20:42.720 --> 1:20:45.160 the Republicans? 1:20:45.439 --> 1:20:49.080 I thought I thought the Democrats were going to win 1:20:50.720 --> 1:20:54.280 at least seven, if not eight, of the these. I 1:20:54.360 --> 1:20:59.800 thought Liz and Snetherman were really the best chance. But ironically, 1:21:00.240 --> 1:21:03.920 of having a dree House and all these legacy names, 1:21:04.439 --> 1:21:08.480 they actually split the vote between themselves and the Democratic 1:21:08.560 --> 1:21:12.839 ticket just I mean, you saw it. They voted ninety 1:21:12.840 --> 1:21:17.640 eight percent together. And that's the machine. And that's a 1:21:17.680 --> 1:21:23.240 compliment to folks like Eddie Davenport, Alex Lindsner, the chair 1:21:23.360 --> 1:21:26.280 who's built just the machine over there, no. 1:21:26.360 --> 1:21:29.280 Question about it. I mean, obviously wasn't what I wanted 1:21:29.320 --> 1:21:33.439 to see, but it was impressive and well, even going 1:21:33.479 --> 1:21:36.360 back to my term as chairman of the Republican Party 1:21:36.360 --> 1:21:40.599 in the mid nineties, Democrats always had their act together. 1:21:40.920 --> 1:21:43.840 The slate card as strong as the Republicans used to 1:21:43.880 --> 1:21:47.400 be and still are, I think, county wide. But it 1:21:47.520 --> 1:21:50.200 is an impressive operation to watch. I have to admit 1:21:50.280 --> 1:21:53.120 that one thing though, this is kind of off the point. 1:21:53.600 --> 1:21:55.719 You know, when I was chairman of the Republican Party, 1:21:55.760 --> 1:22:00.839 Tim Burke was chairman of the Democrat Party and that right, well, 1:22:00.880 --> 1:22:03.280 thank you. I agree with that greatest of all time. 1:22:03.600 --> 1:22:04.000 That man. 1:22:04.680 --> 1:22:08.639 Love him tail off, and right when he leaves, that's 1:22:08.640 --> 1:22:10.840 when things, you know, kind of start to turn around. 1:22:11.080 --> 1:22:13.840 I hope people in the Democratic Party are giving him 1:22:13.880 --> 1:22:18.760 his props because he certainly deserves him. And as an adversary, 1:22:19.400 --> 1:22:22.000 he was absolutely great to work with. You know a 1:22:22.040 --> 1:22:25.640 lot of times on issues, you know, judicial races and 1:22:25.680 --> 1:22:28.040 things like that, Tim and I go out and get 1:22:28.040 --> 1:22:29.960 a cup of coffee or lunch or something and just 1:22:30.040 --> 1:22:33.320 discuss it and kind of come to an agreement on things. 1:22:33.360 --> 1:22:36.280 But I'm sure that doesn't happen anymore. But anyway, I 1:22:36.400 --> 1:22:40.360 just wanted to throw that out last question. Will next 1:22:40.400 --> 1:22:41.400 year be crazier? 1:22:41.800 --> 1:22:42.000 Yes? 1:22:43.880 --> 1:22:44.120 Yes? 1:22:44.520 --> 1:22:46.240 Or absolutely yes? 1:22:47.760 --> 1:22:52.479 Absolutely yes. It's the midterm years. The whole Tim Waltz 1:22:52.560 --> 1:22:56.719 scandal is just getting It's like an onion right now. 1:22:56.840 --> 1:23:01.599 It's going to dive deeper and deeper in next year 1:23:01.640 --> 1:23:05.080 will be crazy. It's midterms, so every single issue is 1:23:05.080 --> 1:23:08.639 going to be amplified. City stuff will probably be less 1:23:08.720 --> 1:23:14.439 quiet because there's not an election national and state. You 1:23:14.560 --> 1:23:20.320 got governors races. It's gonna fill a lot of radio slots, 1:23:20.400 --> 1:23:22.439 so advertisers better pay up. 1:23:22.960 --> 1:23:25.320 Yeah, the station loves that time of year. 1:23:25.360 --> 1:23:25.559 Man. 1:23:26.200 --> 1:23:28.639 You know what, this was really fun. I think it 1:23:28.680 --> 1:23:31.840 was uh yeah, I think it was enlightening and entertaining too. 1:23:31.960 --> 1:23:35.280 And I'm gonna let my listeners know that at ten 1:23:35.320 --> 1:23:39.800 o'clock tomorrow morning, we're gonna do something similar the end 1:23:39.880 --> 1:23:43.400 of the year political awards, Winner of the Year, Loser 1:23:43.400 --> 1:23:45.680 of the Year, Worst Week award, and you know what, 1:23:45.760 --> 1:23:47.519 I'll be ready for that one, Kevin. I'll have some 1:23:48.560 --> 1:23:51.439 picks on that too, But really appreciate you doing this 1:23:51.560 --> 1:23:53.760 and hope we can make it an annual thing. 1:23:55.360 --> 1:23:56.000 I hope so too. 1:23:56.000 --> 1:23:58.920 I hope the listeners enjoyed it and everyone have a safe, 1:23:59.160 --> 1:24:01.200 happy New Year's. 1:24:00.760 --> 1:24:04.840 Okay, but you too, all right, Kevin Burton, Boy, that 1:24:04.960 --> 1:24:07.479 was fun, you know, and the guy's tuned in, he 1:24:07.560 --> 1:24:10.960 really is, and I love you know what. It's just 1:24:11.000 --> 1:24:13.800 like a regular interview or something like this, because you 1:24:13.880 --> 1:24:17.200 do get that other perspective, and I think it's important 1:24:17.200 --> 1:24:19.479 to do that. Hey, we got to take a break, 1:24:19.520 --> 1:24:21.960 but we'll be back, Dave, do I have any time 1:24:22.000 --> 1:24:25.120 coming back? Or we'll go right to news. Okay, We're 1:24:25.120 --> 1:24:27.320 gonna go right to news, and then when we get back, 1:24:27.640 --> 1:24:31.559 we're talking Ohio State Miami. And we'll do that one 1:24:31.560 --> 1:24:36.560 where you turn Mike Allen in for Slowey seven hundred WLW. 1:24:39.680 --> 1:24:43.200 It is eleven thirty seven News Radio, seven hundred WLW, 1:24:43.680 --> 1:24:47.400 Mike Allen in for Sloany on New Year's Eve. Well, 1:24:47.439 --> 1:24:49.600 I'll tell you what I think I know where a 1:24:49.680 --> 1:24:51.800 lot of people on one of them is going to 1:24:51.840 --> 1:24:55.200 be about seven thirty tonight, and that is watching the 1:24:55.280 --> 1:24:59.240 game the Cotton Bowl Ohio State Buckeyes twelve and one, 1:24:59.360 --> 1:25:05.559 that heartbreaking loss to Indiana versus the Miami Hurricanes. They 1:25:05.640 --> 1:25:08.680 are eleven and two. Buck guys are rated number two 1:25:08.760 --> 1:25:12.320 in the country and the Hurricanes are number ten. This 1:25:12.400 --> 1:25:15.080 is going to be a great game here to talk 1:25:15.080 --> 1:25:18.360 about it is a guy that I think knows more 1:25:18.400 --> 1:25:22.760 about Ohio State football, probably just about anybody else in 1:25:22.800 --> 1:25:27.080 this city. He just happens to be my son. Mike 1:25:27.120 --> 1:25:30.920 Allen Junior, heard here Sunday Nights on the Big One. Mike, 1:25:31.080 --> 1:25:32.960 thanks so much for joining us. 1:25:33.800 --> 1:25:36.680 Hey, thanks a lot. Dan, happy to be talking to you. 1:25:36.800 --> 1:25:38.439 Okay, Well, let me you know I got you know, 1:25:38.479 --> 1:25:41.840 I gotta tell the story. Growing up, Mike and I 1:25:41.960 --> 1:25:45.800 kind of split our allegiance between Ohio State and Notre Dame, 1:25:46.120 --> 1:25:50.800 and we got the ancient sweatshirts to prove it. Mike 1:25:51.120 --> 1:25:55.479 kind of segued pretty strongly some years back to Ohio State. 1:25:55.880 --> 1:25:59.160 Before we begin the questioning here, Mike, tell us all 1:25:59.200 --> 1:26:00.080 why you did that. 1:26:01.760 --> 1:26:03.400 I think it was when I was able to buy 1:26:03.439 --> 1:26:04.080 my own. 1:26:03.880 --> 1:26:06.679 Clothing that I stopped buying or cheering for. I don't 1:26:06.720 --> 1:26:08.000 remember cheering for a Notre Dame. 1:26:08.080 --> 1:26:11.040 I do remember you buying me the stuff in encouraging 1:26:11.080 --> 1:26:12.360 me to wear, and I'll put it that way. 1:26:12.400 --> 1:26:14.840 Well, just being a West Side Catholic boy, I guess 1:26:14.920 --> 1:26:16.960 I figured it. Oh yeah, but you know what, I 1:26:17.880 --> 1:26:22.880 love Ohio State too. My father, your grandfather, graduated through there, 1:26:23.000 --> 1:26:25.400 so we're behind him now. But let me ask you, 1:26:25.479 --> 1:26:28.479 and I know, I know how strongly you follow these guys. 1:26:28.880 --> 1:26:33.040 What do you think I guess stylistically, what are you 1:26:33.120 --> 1:26:34.960 looking at tonight? How do you think it's going to 1:26:35.000 --> 1:26:37.240 be high scoring? Low scoring? What do you think? 1:26:38.400 --> 1:26:42.520 So Ohio State wants structure. 1:26:43.600 --> 1:26:46.599 This is about, you know, chaos versus control, so to speak. 1:26:46.600 --> 1:26:49.680 And Ohio State wants controlled. They want to win the 1:26:49.720 --> 1:26:52.040 line of scrimmage, they want to control the tempo, they 1:26:52.040 --> 1:26:55.439 want to play clean. I hate to say this almost boring. 1:26:55.840 --> 1:26:57.520 What do you hate? Esque football? 1:26:57.920 --> 1:26:58.200 Yep? 1:26:58.600 --> 1:27:00.960 And make Miami earn out absolutely everything. 1:27:01.000 --> 1:27:01.160 Now. 1:27:01.520 --> 1:27:05.480 Miami is gonna want disruption. They're gonna be really emotional. 1:27:06.880 --> 1:27:10.519 They're gonna be hoping for big plays, sudden changes, momentum swings. 1:27:11.160 --> 1:27:14.360 It boils down to it because Ohio State just has 1:27:14.640 --> 1:27:18.439 a more talented team. If they keep this calm and 1:27:18.520 --> 1:27:22.120 methodical and like I said, boring, I think this turns 1:27:22.160 --> 1:27:24.120 into the type of game they want now and if 1:27:24.200 --> 1:27:27.880 Miami comes out and they start playing fast and loose 1:27:27.920 --> 1:27:32.000 and emotional with turnovers. That's where you know, an even 1:27:32.479 --> 1:27:36.320 more talented football team can feel really uncomfortable really quickly. 1:27:36.720 --> 1:27:39.639 And that's something Miami is really good at is getting 1:27:39.640 --> 1:27:42.360 people off schedule with their defensive line. I mean, they're 1:27:42.360 --> 1:27:46.519 they're their front guys are unbelievable. But I think whoever 1:27:46.640 --> 1:27:49.400 dictates the style early is going to be is going 1:27:49.479 --> 1:27:50.840 to be who dictates the whole night. 1:27:50.880 --> 1:27:55.559 Really and you know, yeah, ask you this question. You 1:27:55.560 --> 1:27:58.080 think the game is more about the buck guys offense, 1:27:58.320 --> 1:28:02.439 you know, making plays or their defense setting the tone. 1:28:02.479 --> 1:28:04.800 But before he answered that, I mean they're pretty even. 1:28:04.840 --> 1:28:08.880 It looks like in the quarterback department for yeah, buck eyes, Yeah, 1:28:09.080 --> 1:28:12.840 Julian saying, listen to this man, he's got three and 1:28:13.000 --> 1:28:16.960 twenty three yards. Then Carson Beck OSU He's at three 1:28:17.040 --> 1:28:21.800 thousand seventy five. So they're about even. I guess, yeah. 1:28:21.840 --> 1:28:25.519 And the thing that that Julian saying doesn't do that 1:28:25.560 --> 1:28:28.599 Carson Beck tends to do is is Beck will trust. 1:28:28.680 --> 1:28:30.960 I mean, he's got a cannon. He'll make you pay 1:28:31.000 --> 1:28:34.400 if you're late on anything. But he gets a little 1:28:34.520 --> 1:28:38.240 he gambles. So Ohio State, especially with a guy like 1:28:38.320 --> 1:28:39.879 Caleb Downs playing safety. 1:28:40.479 --> 1:28:41.439 He's he's the guy. 1:28:41.560 --> 1:28:43.679 He's the glue that holds them all together back there, 1:28:43.720 --> 1:28:46.960 and he's what allows Ohio State to blitz their corners 1:28:47.000 --> 1:28:47.280 a lot. 1:28:48.640 --> 1:28:50.400 Caleb Downs is going to try. 1:28:50.240 --> 1:28:53.000 To make is going to try to force Carson Beck 1:28:53.000 --> 1:28:57.200 into mistakes. Marvel Reeves as well, the linebacker for Ohio State, 1:28:57.280 --> 1:29:00.800 he's the guy that that gives you control. This is 1:29:00.840 --> 1:29:04.200 going to be about Ohio State's defense setting the tone. 1:29:04.479 --> 1:29:07.920 And those two guys as well, Caleb Downs and linebacker r. L. Reech, 1:29:08.040 --> 1:29:10.599 they those are two folks that they that people want 1:29:10.600 --> 1:29:12.920 to see in Cincinnati next year. Those are two guys 1:29:12.960 --> 1:29:15.040 that are going to go in the first round. And 1:29:15.080 --> 1:29:18.280 I know a lot of Bengals fans, especially Caleb Downs, 1:29:18.280 --> 1:29:21.559 they really like that. And I think the other thing 1:29:21.600 --> 1:29:26.920 too that storyline is Brian Hartline, the Buckey's offensive coordinator, 1:29:26.960 --> 1:29:30.200 is now in Florida. He's gone, and that was I 1:29:30.240 --> 1:29:32.360 think a lot of the issue with with Ohio State 1:29:32.439 --> 1:29:34.640 not putting a lot of points up against Indiana was 1:29:34.680 --> 1:29:37.439 that now Ryan Day is going to go back to 1:29:37.520 --> 1:29:40.960 calling the plays tonight, and there's been mixed results with that. 1:29:41.040 --> 1:29:43.280 But what I will say is when when he's got 1:29:43.320 --> 1:29:45.280 extra time to prepare. I mean, they haven't played a 1:29:45.280 --> 1:29:46.280 football game in a month. 1:29:46.320 --> 1:29:47.000 It feels like. 1:29:48.000 --> 1:29:50.120 He usually does pretty well. So but if I had 1:29:50.160 --> 1:29:52.280 to say this, I mean, Ohio State's defense is the 1:29:52.280 --> 1:29:54.920 most important unit on the field tonight. I mean, they're 1:29:54.960 --> 1:29:57.840 gonna be the ones that determine if Carson Beck is 1:29:57.880 --> 1:30:00.000 going to chuck it to that freshman receiver all day 1:30:00.240 --> 1:30:02.280 or if this is going to be a slow grind 1:30:02.360 --> 1:30:03.559 for for Miami. 1:30:03.920 --> 1:30:05.840 You know, and that makes for a good game too. 1:30:05.920 --> 1:30:08.040 Let me ask you this, I mean, when you look 1:30:08.040 --> 1:30:12.320 at Miami, you know, Ohio States favored, I think by 1:30:12.640 --> 1:30:15.000 a fair amount. I don't get the whole betting deal 1:30:15.120 --> 1:30:18.080 lot anyway, they are favored. But when you look at Miami, 1:30:18.200 --> 1:30:22.000 I mean, what do you think their realistic path to pulling. 1:30:21.800 --> 1:30:25.760 This off is momentum? I mean that's that's the one 1:30:25.800 --> 1:30:26.439 thing they can. 1:30:26.320 --> 1:30:29.720 Do is get on Ohio State early and try to 1:30:29.760 --> 1:30:32.880 force you know, an early turnover to keep maybe take 1:30:32.920 --> 1:30:35.439 Ohio State's crowd out of it, but keep Ohio State 1:30:35.520 --> 1:30:36.280 off schedule. 1:30:37.240 --> 1:30:38.240 You know they're gonna. 1:30:37.960 --> 1:30:42.599 Want explosive big plays, short fields, emotional swings and again 1:30:42.760 --> 1:30:46.600 getting getting on Ohio State quickly. And that's going to 1:30:46.640 --> 1:30:50.439 start with Carson Beck being comfortable. They got a heck 1:30:50.479 --> 1:30:53.880 of a running back to Mark Fletcher. He'll keep them 1:30:53.920 --> 1:30:55.839 on schedule. And then that, like I said, the freshman 1:30:55.920 --> 1:30:59.400 on the outside malachay TONI and and force one turnover. 1:30:59.479 --> 1:31:01.799 That's the man. As if if. 1:31:01.640 --> 1:31:04.479 Miami can get Julian Saying to make a mistake, maybe 1:31:04.479 --> 1:31:07.400 get lucky on a fumble, maybe maybe pull something off 1:31:07.439 --> 1:31:12.280 on special teams, those momentum swings again, they'll make the 1:31:12.720 --> 1:31:15.599 more talented team uncomfortable. And I think that, you know, 1:31:15.720 --> 1:31:18.200 if they can get on them early and maybe you know, 1:31:18.240 --> 1:31:20.519 if Ohio State gets a long drive at the beginning, 1:31:20.640 --> 1:31:24.000 force hold them to a field goal. You know, I 1:31:24.400 --> 1:31:26.000 think that would be the way they do it. But 1:31:26.040 --> 1:31:28.080 it's gonna have to be you know, they're gonna have 1:31:28.120 --> 1:31:29.559 to get a turnover here and there. 1:31:29.560 --> 1:31:30.240 They're gonna have to. 1:31:30.280 --> 1:31:33.160 Hit big plays because if Ohio State is allowed to 1:31:33.280 --> 1:31:36.200 just play old school Ohio State football against Miami, I 1:31:36.439 --> 1:31:39.320 don't think Miami's really got a shot. So I will 1:31:39.360 --> 1:31:44.400 say this though Miami defensive line is unbelievable. I mean, 1:31:44.439 --> 1:31:48.200 there they've got a cast of characters that are just disruptive. 1:31:48.280 --> 1:31:49.639 But but yeah, I mean. 1:31:49.600 --> 1:31:52.160 If Ohio State can find a way to keep their 1:31:52.240 --> 1:31:55.160 defensive line and check and run the ball, I think 1:31:55.200 --> 1:31:58.000 I think they'll be in good hands. And if if 1:31:58.040 --> 1:32:00.840 Miami can force a shootout, you know, Ohio State might 1:32:00.880 --> 1:32:01.760 have to worry a little bit. 1:32:02.080 --> 1:32:04.280 Yeah, it'll be interesting to see. Now if you're an 1:32:04.320 --> 1:32:07.320 Ohio State fan, which you obviously are, and you kind 1:32:07.320 --> 1:32:10.639 of just covered this, but what worries you most about 1:32:10.680 --> 1:32:15.400 Miami being an Ohio State fan, especially if you like 1:32:15.479 --> 1:32:18.599 boil it down to individual players and matchups and things 1:32:18.640 --> 1:32:19.000 like that. 1:32:20.200 --> 1:32:22.560 Yeah, And like I said, Carson Beck, I mean I 1:32:22.640 --> 1:32:24.840 think this might be his third or fourth team he's 1:32:24.880 --> 1:32:27.720 played with, so he's seen it all in multiple conferences. 1:32:28.000 --> 1:32:30.960 What worries me is if Miami, you know, when plays 1:32:31.000 --> 1:32:34.559 break down, he's so good that if he gets that 1:32:34.640 --> 1:32:36.680 extra second or has to roll out a little bit, 1:32:37.000 --> 1:32:39.160 he's gonna punish you if you're just a little late. 1:32:39.200 --> 1:32:42.840 And again, that running back Fletcher, you know he can 1:32:42.920 --> 1:32:46.240 keep them and you know, second and manageable third and 1:32:46.360 --> 1:32:49.519 rational downs all night, not you know, keep my Another 1:32:49.560 --> 1:32:53.200 thing for Miami too is keeping it in second and 1:32:53.240 --> 1:32:56.519 third and normal not not you know, losses on first 1:32:56.520 --> 1:32:58.519 down and just trying to find a way to stay 1:32:58.520 --> 1:32:59.000 on track. 1:32:59.760 --> 1:33:01.320 But yeah, Carson Beck worries me. 1:33:01.360 --> 1:33:04.759 And again Ruben Bain Junior is the guy for Miami 1:33:04.800 --> 1:33:08.759 that just terrifies you. He is disruptive up up front. 1:33:09.240 --> 1:33:12.360 He's going to force Ohio States offensive line to move quickly, 1:33:13.560 --> 1:33:17.800 you know. And and if he starts getting after Julian saying. 1:33:17.520 --> 1:33:19.559 And their D line starts getting after. 1:33:19.479 --> 1:33:22.439 Ohio States offensive line, this game is gonna feel a 1:33:22.479 --> 1:33:23.160 lot tighter. 1:33:23.960 --> 1:33:24.120 You know. 1:33:24.240 --> 1:33:28.240 Miami is is dangerous when it turns to you know, 1:33:28.360 --> 1:33:32.520 they they have a way of making really solid, fundamentally 1:33:32.560 --> 1:33:36.519 sound football teams uncomfortable and you know, get out of wax, 1:33:36.560 --> 1:33:37.120 so to speak. 1:33:37.200 --> 1:33:38.120 So I'll be. 1:33:38.040 --> 1:33:38.559 Honest with you. 1:33:38.640 --> 1:33:41.120 I think the two you know, higher state pion two 1:33:41.160 --> 1:33:45.240 in Miami being ten, that's that's a little bit deceiving here. 1:33:45.280 --> 1:33:47.919 I mean that they're they're a good matchup against the Buckeyes. 1:33:48.000 --> 1:33:49.840 So it's gonna be a heck of a game. 1:33:50.040 --> 1:33:51.960 It sure looks like it. And as you point out, 1:33:52.000 --> 1:33:56.680 the quarterback situation is almost even one more question, well 1:33:56.720 --> 1:33:59.519 almost one more, and you've kind of addressed this already. 1:33:59.520 --> 1:34:02.519 When it's all said and done, what do you think, 1:34:02.960 --> 1:34:05.400 bottom line, what do you think is going to decide 1:34:05.439 --> 1:34:05.960 this game? 1:34:08.320 --> 1:34:09.599 Turnovers and tempo. 1:34:09.720 --> 1:34:14.720 Man if if Ohio State can play clean football, you know, 1:34:14.800 --> 1:34:17.200 control the run game, and that's that's someone else that 1:34:17.200 --> 1:34:20.280 that we got to mention Bo Jackson, I mean Ohio State. 1:34:20.360 --> 1:34:23.799 It feels like every single year just has a horse, 1:34:23.920 --> 1:34:25.479 I mean a guy that you can give the ball 1:34:25.520 --> 1:34:28.240 to over and over again, especially late in games, that'll 1:34:28.280 --> 1:34:31.799 just churn the clock out and for all to talk about, 1:34:32.640 --> 1:34:36.160 you know, Ohio State, you know in the air raid offense, 1:34:36.200 --> 1:34:38.200 so to speak, chucking the ball and how it's nothing 1:34:38.240 --> 1:34:40.920 like Jim Dressel and what he hayes if if people 1:34:41.000 --> 1:34:43.640 remember that first couple of drives when things kind of 1:34:43.640 --> 1:34:48.639 got off the rails against Michigan, Ohio State just started saying, 1:34:48.680 --> 1:34:50.040 you know what, We're gonna line up and we're just 1:34:50.080 --> 1:34:52.360 gonna run it down your throat. We're bigger, we're stronger, 1:34:52.400 --> 1:34:55.000 we're meaner. And I think if Ohio State can do that, 1:34:55.120 --> 1:34:58.040 especially early, settle the nerves a little bit and just 1:34:58.040 --> 1:35:00.320 say hey we are the number two team and aar 1:35:00.400 --> 1:35:03.000 the number ten team We're just bigger, meaner, stronger, and 1:35:03.040 --> 1:35:04.640 faster than them. 1:35:04.720 --> 1:35:05.840 I think they'll be okay. 1:35:05.880 --> 1:35:08.680 But man, if Miami gets an early turnover, you know, 1:35:08.720 --> 1:35:11.040 they get a big play early to get get them 1:35:11.080 --> 1:35:14.040 emotionally hyped up and take take Ohio State's crowd and 1:35:14.080 --> 1:35:17.320 possibly the players out of it. Anything can happen, man, 1:35:17.320 --> 1:35:20.400 I mean, that's the beauty of college is I mean 1:35:20.439 --> 1:35:22.479 any I hate to say it, rub it in my 1:35:22.520 --> 1:35:26.000 buddy's face, my Michigan fan buddies, but even an appolass 1:35:26.040 --> 1:35:27.040 and State can go into. 1:35:26.920 --> 1:35:28.200 The big House and be Michigan. 1:35:28.240 --> 1:35:32.160 I mean literally, anything can happen. So that's the beauty 1:35:32.160 --> 1:35:34.040 of it. I'll be honest these games, I don't really 1:35:34.160 --> 1:35:36.920 enjoy watching them. I'm just it on pre dere life. 1:35:37.000 --> 1:35:39.960 But hopefully it gets boring for the Buckeye fans at 1:35:39.960 --> 1:35:40.439 the end. 1:35:40.479 --> 1:35:43.280 We shall see a two part or an easy one 1:35:44.000 --> 1:35:46.519 if you care to venture. A final score number one 1:35:46.520 --> 1:35:48.360 and number two. And I think I know the answer 1:35:48.439 --> 1:35:51.080 to this. Where are you going to be watching the game? 1:35:52.320 --> 1:35:54.559 Man, I'll be sitting in my living room with my infiant. 1:35:54.840 --> 1:35:56.760 That's what I thought. That's what I thought. 1:35:56.840 --> 1:35:59.360 Yeah, tanged knipers, Well, what I will say, man, is 1:35:59.560 --> 1:36:01.559 I think, I honestly think it's going to be kind 1:36:01.560 --> 1:36:01.960 of boring. 1:36:02.000 --> 1:36:04.120 I think twenty one seventeen Ohio State. 1:36:04.520 --> 1:36:05.080 There you go. 1:36:05.360 --> 1:36:07.639 I think I think Ohio State runs the ball. 1:36:07.760 --> 1:36:10.400 I think I think Miami hangs on. 1:36:10.680 --> 1:36:12.200 But I don't think it'll be as close as that 1:36:12.240 --> 1:36:13.320 two thousand and one game. 1:36:13.360 --> 1:36:14.479 Man, that was something else. 1:36:14.680 --> 1:36:17.280 That really was I remember that. Hey, thanks so much 1:36:17.320 --> 1:36:20.720 for doing this, and uh, I'll like that. Reconnoiter with 1:36:20.760 --> 1:36:22.400 you tomorrow and we'll talk about it. 1:36:23.320 --> 1:36:25.400 Hell yeah, take it easy, man, Okay. 1:36:25.120 --> 1:36:28.080 Thank you, all right, bye bye bye bye. All Right, 1:36:28.160 --> 1:36:32.719 Mike Allen, ju're giving us his take on the Ohio 1:36:32.760 --> 1:36:35.600 State Miami game tonight. And I told you, man, he 1:36:35.720 --> 1:36:40.040 knows Ohio State football cold. So we shall see what happens. Hey, 1:36:40.040 --> 1:36:42.280 I'm going to take a real short break and then 1:36:42.280 --> 1:36:44.120 we'll come back and I'll give you kind of a 1:36:44.120 --> 1:36:46.840 preview of what we're going to do tomorrow on the show. 1:36:47.120 --> 1:36:57.719 Mike Allen in for Sloaney seven hundred WLW. Hey, we're back, 1:36:58.560 --> 1:37:02.920 Mike Allen in for Slow seven hundred WLW. Well that 1:37:03.040 --> 1:37:07.160 was really cool. That's the first time I've ever interviewed 1:37:07.160 --> 1:37:09.280 my son on the air, and I'll tell you what, 1:37:09.479 --> 1:37:12.400 for a dad, that's a big deal. And he did 1:37:12.439 --> 1:37:14.760 mention that he's going to be watching the game from 1:37:14.800 --> 1:37:18.000 home tonight because brand new father just a couple of 1:37:18.000 --> 1:37:20.800 weeks ago. I'm a brand new grandfather, little girl, And 1:37:20.840 --> 1:37:24.240 I'll tell you what, there ain't nothing like it, you know. 1:37:24.320 --> 1:37:28.240 I kind of have a theory with respect to Christmas. 1:37:28.800 --> 1:37:32.840 Christmas is fun when you are a kid, it's fun 1:37:32.880 --> 1:37:36.240 when you have kids, and then I think it's going 1:37:36.320 --> 1:37:41.200 to be fun again with grandkids. So looking forward to that. Yeah, 1:37:41.280 --> 1:37:43.880 I mean, if your kids are grown up and they're 1:37:43.920 --> 1:37:46.639 out of the house and it's Christmas, it's kind of like, man, 1:37:47.479 --> 1:37:50.800 when is this going to be over? You know? But 1:37:50.920 --> 1:37:52.960 I think it's going to be different now and I'm 1:37:53.280 --> 1:37:57.160 obviously enjoying it now and looking forward to it. Got 1:37:57.200 --> 1:37:59.280 a great show for you tomorrow. We are going to 1:37:59.360 --> 1:38:02.360 be doing, as one of the callers stated today, we 1:38:02.439 --> 1:38:04.679 are going to be doing a lot of fluff stuff, 1:38:05.000 --> 1:38:07.280 which is appropriate for the end of the year. You 1:38:07.320 --> 1:38:12.559 know who did this in twenty twenty five? Who did that? 1:38:12.760 --> 1:38:15.479 So looking forward to that. Also, we got some good 1:38:15.479 --> 1:38:21.200 guests lined up too. Attorney James Bogan, James. He keeps 1:38:21.320 --> 1:38:26.000 up on stuff with respect to you know, boys and girls' 1:38:26.000 --> 1:38:28.800 sports and other things like that. We'll talk to James 1:38:28.840 --> 1:38:32.479 about those issues, what happened with that kind of stuff 1:38:32.720 --> 1:38:36.479 in the previous year. And also Kevin Burton. Kevin's coming 1:38:36.520 --> 1:38:40.200 back again. We are going to do another political game 1:38:40.280 --> 1:38:43.599 Top Political Stories of the Year, So I'm looking forward 1:38:43.600 --> 1:38:47.200 to that and back and clean up at eleven thirty tomorrow. 1:38:47.680 --> 1:38:49.760 Man by the name of Judd Dunning, I've had him 1:38:49.760 --> 1:38:53.680 on before, really really a great guest, and he's going 1:38:53.720 --> 1:38:56.439 to be speaking on what I feel is a very 1:38:56.600 --> 1:39:00.360 very important topic and probably appropriate to close out the 1:39:00.439 --> 1:39:05.200 year with it standing with Israel moral clarity in an 1:39:05.240 --> 1:39:09.000 age of manufactured confusion. And boy, i'll tell you what. 1:39:09.600 --> 1:39:13.479 He hits that right on the head. A big story, 1:39:13.960 --> 1:39:18.360 uh this year obviously with Israel and the raids and 1:39:18.439 --> 1:39:22.479 how they kind of put the arm on Hamas. Finally, yeah, 1:39:22.479 --> 1:39:25.559 i'll tell you. I'm reading a book now, the first 1:39:25.600 --> 1:39:28.320 book out by and I forget his name. I just 1:39:28.360 --> 1:39:32.160 started the book. One of the hostages that was taken 1:39:32.160 --> 1:39:36.360 hostage over there. Thankfully he was released in good health 1:39:36.439 --> 1:39:42.160 now and it's just it's unbelievable. What happened to those people, 1:39:43.160 --> 1:39:46.639 what Hamas did to those people. And for these people 1:39:46.680 --> 1:39:50.599 that want to talk about you know, uh, let's march 1:39:50.640 --> 1:39:54.400 on campus with the Palestinian flag. They it is. It's 1:39:54.439 --> 1:39:56.639 not a big book, it's kind of thin. They ought 1:39:56.640 --> 1:39:59.880 to take some time and read that, because I think 1:40:00.080 --> 1:40:04.080 would bring some reality to the debate there. But we 1:40:04.120 --> 1:40:06.120 shall see. But I'm looking forward to talking to him 1:40:06.160 --> 1:40:10.559 about that. So we'll have plenty to do. Getting the 1:40:10.680 --> 1:40:12.479 Year in review will do that, you know what. I 1:40:12.560 --> 1:40:16.439 think I will continue on with CNN because they think 1:40:16.479 --> 1:40:19.880 they did it pretty fairly. And just looking at it now, 1:40:19.960 --> 1:40:24.360 a couple things here January twenty third, and so much 1:40:24.400 --> 1:40:29.040 of this is about the Democrats. Law fair on President Trump. 1:40:29.720 --> 1:40:32.439 They're the ones that started it, they're the ones that 1:40:32.600 --> 1:40:36.760 perfected it, and they're getting it back, you know. And 1:40:36.840 --> 1:40:39.360 I said at the time, it's a shame it has 1:40:39.439 --> 1:40:43.479 to happen. It really does. It's inappropriate, but you know what, 1:40:43.520 --> 1:40:47.879 the political world is dog eat dog, and if somebody, 1:40:47.960 --> 1:40:50.680 if your opponent, does it, you're gonna do it. So 1:40:51.240 --> 1:40:56.000 Democrats should stop crying about it and thank themselves for 1:40:56.120 --> 1:41:00.280 the phenomena of this kind of thing the warfare we 1:41:00.360 --> 1:41:04.719 have now with the legal system and judges and everything else. 1:41:04.800 --> 1:41:08.040 But all right. January twenty third, a federal judge says 1:41:08.080 --> 1:41:15.080 that President Trump's executive order ending birthright constitutions birthright citizenship 1:41:15.240 --> 1:41:21.120 is blatantly unconstitutional, and that judge issued a tro temporary 1:41:21.160 --> 1:41:25.360 restraining order to block it. On July tenth, US District 1:41:25.439 --> 1:41:32.240 Judge Joseph Leplant certainly probably a either Obama or Biden appointee, 1:41:32.360 --> 1:41:34.320 probably shouldn't say that, I don't know for sure, he 1:41:34.360 --> 1:41:38.000 agrees to issue a new nationwide block against the executive order. 1:41:38.400 --> 1:41:43.240 Everything Trump tries to do with respect to immigration, especially 1:41:43.320 --> 1:41:46.559 everything else has to end up in federal court. You know, 1:41:47.120 --> 1:41:50.520 it never used to be like that. It really didn't. 1:41:51.000 --> 1:41:54.559 But oh boy, here's a sorry story. I remember this too. 1:41:55.320 --> 1:41:59.519 January twenty ninth, sixty seven people are dead after an 1:41:59.560 --> 1:42:04.120 American the Airline's regional jet on approach to Reagan National Airport, 1:42:04.240 --> 1:42:09.160 New DC, collides with a US Army black Hawk helicopter 1:42:10.080 --> 1:42:14.240 in mid air, sending both aircraft into the Potomac River below. 1:42:14.720 --> 1:42:17.240 Sixty four people on board on the plane and three 1:42:17.280 --> 1:42:21.880 soldiers on the Army helicopter now, I don't know if 1:42:22.479 --> 1:42:27.800 the NTSB, National Transportation Safety Board, or any other organization 1:42:27.880 --> 1:42:30.519 has come to a conclusion as to fault there, But 1:42:31.280 --> 1:42:33.800 I think one thing that the experts can agree on 1:42:33.960 --> 1:42:38.160 is that's a busy, busy airport, and you got military 1:42:38.200 --> 1:42:41.680 craft like helicopters flying and out of it too. So 1:42:42.280 --> 1:42:45.880 you know, it's a situation where hopefully they get that thing, 1:42:46.240 --> 1:42:49.920 they get that thing fixed. One last thing here, February third, 1:42:49.960 --> 1:42:54.639 Elon Musk reveals President Trump as signed off on shutting downs. 1:42:54.840 --> 1:42:57.320 One of the best things he did shut and one 1:42:57.360 --> 1:43:00.640 of the first things shutting down the USA Agency for 1:43:00.880 --> 1:43:04.280 International Development. That's it. I'll see you tomorrow. Mike Allen 1:43:04.400 --> 1:43:06.720 in for Sloaney seven hundred WLW