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Speaker 1: This is the Mark Madden Show. You can follow me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Mark Madden X. The breaking news besides

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Speaker 1: the inauguration is that Brian Rusk got a three game suspension,

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Speaker 1: the Penguins winger, for his hit on Brock Besser at

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Speaker 1: the very end of that three to two win at

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Speaker 1: Vancouver Sunday. Three games strikes me as way too much.

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Speaker 1: It should have been one game, and maybe not that

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Speaker 1: rust A didn't use his elbow. B isn't that kind

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Speaker 1: of player. See Besser appeared to duck his head right

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Speaker 1: before impact, But that last part I'm not even comfortable

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Speaker 1: with saying. That's the kind of excuse making that gets

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Speaker 1: made on behalf of dirty players all the time. But

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Speaker 1: like I said, Russ didn't use his elbow and he's

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Speaker 1: not that kind of player. Losing rust right now, that's

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Speaker 1: a big deal. With the Penguins on a roll, returning

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Speaker 1: home Thursday night the host Chicago, and with the four

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Speaker 1: lines fitting together so well as we've talked about, how

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Speaker 1: will the coach Dan Muse change the lines? If it's me,

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Speaker 1: I just put Hazy in on the Crosby line, which

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Speaker 1: won't help that line. But I don't want to rip

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Speaker 1: apart all the other lines. Now, what if mcgroarty's ready

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Speaker 1: after going to Wilkes for a spell, I'd bring him

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Speaker 1: up and pop him on Crosby's line, But I don't

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Speaker 1: want to disrupt the other lines that are working very well.

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Speaker 2: I'm joining now by Tommy Radio.

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Speaker 1: Tom what's your take on that suspension the NHL gave

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Speaker 1: Brian Rust.

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Speaker 3: It seems very odd to me, like an odd player

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Speaker 3: in place, for the Department of Player Safety to kind

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Speaker 3: of send a little bit of a message here. I

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Speaker 3: mean for them this scene, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what message they're sending other than the random nature

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Speaker 2: Things like that.

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Speaker 3: But like I feel like people have always been saying,

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Speaker 3: you know, they need to be stricter, you know, make

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Speaker 3: the game cleaner, but they always come down soft. It

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Speaker 3: seems on suspensions for much more egregious acts than Brian Russ,

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Speaker 3: who's so innocuous as you just laid out, gets three

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Speaker 1: It's just very bizarre. It depends who it is, depends

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Speaker 1: what team he's on. That's how the NHL operates. I

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Speaker 1: go back to when sid almost lost his career, that

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Speaker 1: hit to the head by Steckel. It wasn't identical to

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Speaker 1: the Russ tip and it shoulder to head and Steckel

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Speaker 1: didn't get any punishment at all for taking the best

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Speaker 1: player in hockey out of the game for the best

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Speaker 1: part of a year.

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Speaker 3: What did they give Troopa something in the playoff series?

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Speaker 3: And I forgetting he just played right entirely fine. Took Crosby,

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Speaker 3: who was dominating that series. It's who it is and

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Speaker 3: he plays for it makes no sense. I mean that

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Speaker 3: was disgusting. It's the Steckel thing, the Truba thing, like

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Speaker 3: they just don't protect Crosby at any turn, and Russ

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Speaker 3: is just a weird one. One game I think I

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Speaker 3: would have been okay with if you just say, you know,

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Speaker 3: one game, can't do that close to the end of

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Speaker 3: the game, hit to the head whatever, But three is

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Speaker 3: just egregious. He probably and gets it down, don't you think.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't. Well, I think he'll appeal.

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Speaker 1: I wish the process though, Like you know in in

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Speaker 1: European soccer, if you appeal and lose the appeal, you get.

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Speaker 2: Added on with the suspension.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at appeal, there's nothing to be lost by appealing,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I would maybe gets it knocked onto two games,

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Speaker 1: But I bet not, Like I said, who you are,

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Speaker 1: who you play for the Penguins. Despite what fans in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: Toronto everywhere think, the Penguins are not a favored nation

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Speaker 2: Should be but aren't.

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Speaker 3: No, it seems to actually go quite the opposite way

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Speaker 3: right like the other I think six teams are like

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Speaker 3: uncomfortable that the Penguins have forced their way not just

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Speaker 3: to have a seat of the table, but are like

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Speaker 3: basically one of the heads of the table now when

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Speaker 3: it comes to the NHL. And I just think there's

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Speaker 3: always been a bit of pettiness right between some of

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Speaker 2: Oh what ton Yeah, a.

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Speaker 1: Ton, especially as as reflected on the Penguins, not only

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Speaker 1: by teams, went by the league. I think Bettman is

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Speaker 1: a Penguins guy. I mean, he helped keep the team

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Speaker 1: here and I'll never forget that. But all those old

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Speaker 1: timey idiot cementhead brand dead Canadians who really won the league,

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Speaker 1: they don't like Crosby, you know why, pretty boy Nova Scotia,

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Speaker 2: At least he's not French though that's the way they think.

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Speaker 3: Well, as far as the franchise is concerned, how could

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Speaker 3: you not love them as a commissioner? As Gary Bettman,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it is the Showtime franchise. Look at the

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Speaker 3: scoring titles and the rafters, the names they could have

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Speaker 1: It's a league that succeeds despite itself. Tom, I wish

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Speaker 1: that we were preempted so we could focus all our

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Speaker 1: attention on the inauguration at acature.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't it feel like an inauguration?

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Speaker 3: Really does? Yes? Do you want to hear some opening statements?

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Speaker 3: Art Rooney opened things up by noting that it's the

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Speaker 3: Chief's birthday, or it would have been, and how proud

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Speaker 3: the Chief would have been to hire someone from Greenfield?

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Speaker 2: Did he really say?

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Speaker 3: Yes? He did, but then he quickly noted that that

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Speaker 3: wasn't one of the influential reasons why we hired him,

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Speaker 3: but of course it was.

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Speaker 1: McCarthy got choked up to when he started talking, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Chief really did a good job with all his hires.

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Speaker 1: He ran football ops from the finding of the team

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Speaker 1: in thirty three till about nineteen sixty eight, made the

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Speaker 1: playoffs once. So yeah, let's reflect on what the chief

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Speaker 3: Oh, it looks like Pat McAfee got a shout out

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Speaker 3: from Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: Big Mike, of course he did. God Idiocracy.

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Speaker 1: I wish it was just limited to sports media, but

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Speaker 1: it's clearly infected thereof.

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Speaker 3: We have some actual news though from it now. He

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Speaker 3: was asked about Aaron Rodgers as his starting quarterback in

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Speaker 3: McCarthy said, definitely. I don't see why you wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Well, that doesn't mean he's coming back.

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Speaker 3: I mean somebody's open to it now, Yeah, but didn't

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Speaker 3: we know that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think I had a little bit of doubt there.

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Speaker 3: McCarthy might just want to turn the page there.

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Speaker 1: What about me kind of feeling and that Malik Willis

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Speaker 1: should should be pursued. I don't think they'll get him though,

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Speaker 1: so maybe there's no point in that pursuit.

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Speaker 3: I just do know what other options you would go after, Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if I want to call him

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Speaker 3: a serious option, but as far as the other places

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Speaker 1: Willis is the only option where you're not just getting

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Speaker 1: term guy. It's hedging your bet. It's the smart move. No,

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Speaker 1: I just don't know why he'd want to come here.

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Speaker 3: I don't know either, because again it's not like it's

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Speaker 3: some secret like Malik Willis is out there and the

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Speaker 3: Steelers are the only one that knows.

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Speaker 1: I certainly wouldn't want to come here if he's going

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Speaker 1: to be Aaron Rodgers's understudy. Look, look what happened to

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields. I still believe Justin Field's when he started

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Speaker 2: Till he failed.

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Speaker 1: And he succeeded, despite having his legs cut out from

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Speaker 1: despite them not using his mobility like they should have.

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Speaker 3: You know, they definitely didn't use him correctly. But he

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Speaker 3: stinks to I mean, come on, we can admit that

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Speaker 3: he's not a good quarterback. He sucked this year in

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Speaker 3: New York. He's not good.

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Speaker 1: I would rather I'd him this year than Aaron Rodge

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Speaker 1: and go three and fourteen. Aaron Rodgers sucked in New

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Speaker 3: You think Justin Fields would have been ten and seven,

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Speaker 3: won the division this year nine and eight somewhere in there.

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Speaker 3: That's the that's the worst thing they could have been.

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Speaker 3: I was with you if you think Justin Fields would

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Speaker 3: sucked out loud here and actually they want to have happened.

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Speaker 3: That's why Fat Mike Gout, I mean Big Mike Gout hired.

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 3: And apparently he's open to running it back again with

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Speaker 3: that meeting after all this are you gonna be open?

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 2: You know what I need to do.

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Speaker 1: I need to meet with Fat I mean Big Mike,

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Speaker 1: and we need to get him on Awakened one eighty.

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Speaker 2: Oh how about me and him an awaken one eighty

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Speaker 2: tag team?

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Speaker 3: Could you imagine that for his third act, like a

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Speaker 3: slimmed Mike McCarthy. He'd looked like Jonah Hill. You remember

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Speaker 3: how Jonahill loses all that weight on the.

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Speaker 2: Side, I lost all this charisma. Two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some fat guys, they should stay fat. But me

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Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy Awakened one eighty would be the Midnight

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Speaker 1: Express aweight loss. We would be an unbelievable tag team

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Speaker 2: Thursday Night, The.

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Speaker 1: Tom we've been following the inauguration of Mike McCarthy over

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Speaker 1: to Acre Sure during the show here, and I watched

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Speaker 1: a little on TV during the commercial break. Not to

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Speaker 1: be insultom if he looks fat, nervous, old without the beard,

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Speaker 1: which I didn't expect to get rid of. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: we got to get him on awake. In one eighty

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Speaker 1: he's said he's wants Aaron Rodgers to come back.

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Speaker 2: That don't mean Rodgers will. What else has he said.

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Speaker 3: A little bit more with Rogers? Apparently according to Brooke Prior,

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Speaker 3: he has talked to Rogers, is what he said, and

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Speaker 3: then he understands that Rogers needs times to decompress. So

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Speaker 3: it looks like we're head down this road potentially again

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Speaker 3: where we're gonna be waiting a little bit of time

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Speaker 3: here to see if Yon they.

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Speaker 1: Can't give him past free agency on March eleventh, in fact,

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Speaker 1: not past tampering on March ninth. They got to get

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Speaker 1: a decision, and if they don't, that shows it. McCarthy's

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Speaker 1: this week as the organization he joined, he.

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Speaker 3: Talked about the roster, said it was a good roster

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Speaker 3: that Tom Lennon no Mark con hand off to him

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Speaker 3: that it's important to stay in the three to four

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Speaker 3: as far as the defense is concerned. So there's not

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Speaker 3: going to be a drastic change as far as that's concerned.

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Speaker 3: But the biggest news that just came out, McCarthy says

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Speaker 3: he will call the plays for the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Don't we do that?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying, you got confirmation now.

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Speaker 1: He said, I believe in Dallas that he had never

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Speaker 1: relinquished play calling.

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Speaker 3: Again, Yeah, I think we all assumed that it was

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Speaker 3: going to happen, But the words have come out of

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Speaker 3: his mouth. I'm the play caller.

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Speaker 1: No, no, basically, and it's good to follow along what

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Speaker 1: he's saying, but I don't think he's saying anything even

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Speaker 1: remotely unexpected. Yeah, I again, I just feel like this

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Speaker 1: hire doesn't change anything. And I think what he's saying

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Speaker 1: to talk about it at length later. But don't you

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Speaker 1: get the feeling that the younger guys like the Kubiak,

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Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of what I'm hearing gives

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Speaker 3: I just don't want Rogers back at all.

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Speaker 1: No, no, And why can't we just say Rogers played

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Speaker 3: be able to run, now, don't you want that in

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Speaker 3: I'm sure no one needs that that you don't get

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Speaker 1: But but Pittsburgh and probably Rooney and obviously McCarthy falling

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Speaker 2: Idea of the name Aaron Rodgers. Not when Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: I mean all the quarterbacks that were in the championship weekend.

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Speaker 1: Now, bow Nix with the broken ankle would have more

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Speaker 2: Everybody saw him playing it.

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Speaker 1: Weren't you know, good enough for like a Minnesota I

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Speaker 3: He's just playing to the crowd, which he definitely could be.

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Speaker 3: Yes? Right now? I think he does, really Yeah, looking

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Speaker 2: Whoa you'll got Wednesday the super Genius And like always,

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Speaker 2: I was right.

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Speaker 1: The Mike McCarthy press conference has concluded nothing of real

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about McCarthy looked, you know, kind

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately he found it again because he looked.

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Speaker 2: To hold it, hold it, hold it.

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Speaker 1: What I'm a fat guy. I can say that he

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Speaker 1: You don't want to be called fat Tom lose weight.

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Speaker 1: That's what I've been told for a jillion effing years.

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Speaker 3: I think it just means that those are the two

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: I feel like all the other ones have just gone

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Speaker 2: And Pz's dad was there too. Live here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but he just shows up. He just going

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Speaker 3: You think he wants a job again back on the staff.

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Speaker 1: Right Pas winning games. Even as a coach, you got

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Speaker 3: Games and I completely ruined that playoff series. But since

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Speaker 2: So oh, who's he trying to cheap shot?

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Speaker 3: And what is makes that old Canada guard such a

441
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Speaker 3: clown show to me is that even when it comes

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Speaker 3: to their own Canadians, they pick and choose who they

443
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Speaker 3: want Sidney Crosby champions.

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Speaker 1: They don't consider City Nova Scoti And you know what's funny,

445
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Speaker 1: I know stupid. I know people out there think I

446
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Speaker 1: sound ridiculous saying that Canada doesn't take pride in Sid

447
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Speaker 1: because he's nova Scotian. And I say the same thing

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Speaker 1: about about Mario, you know, being Quebec qu back right, yeah,

449
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Speaker 1: but that's true and anybody who's been around hockey knows

450
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Speaker 1: that and everyone. Mario said to me one time, I

451
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Speaker 1: can't use the exact verbides because he used the word

452
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Speaker 1: that is insulting the French Canadians. But he said to me,

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Speaker 1: he goes, if you win the gold medal, you're a

454
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Speaker 1: proud Canadian. If you don't, you're just a bleep that

455
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Speaker 1: blew its. And I believe he said that in reference

456
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Speaker 1: to when remember when Flower played World Junior's kneeled up

457
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Speaker 1: a real bad goal to the US and the gold

458
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Speaker 1: medal game. I think he played the puck off somebody

459
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Speaker 1: into his own net. I think that's what it was

460
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Speaker 1: in reference to. But that's a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: So they think skiz Sid's nova Scotian. He's not Canadian, okay,

462
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Speaker 3: but he delivers you results on that international sit care

463
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Speaker 3: about the country. It's the dumbest thing ever. So as

464
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Speaker 3: you said, what it's you have to be from Toronto

465
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Speaker 3: or from the West and if not, then Carry or

466
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Speaker 3: Western Canada.

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Speaker 2: That's how they look at it.

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Speaker 1: They've looked at it that way so long, Tom they

469
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Speaker 1: might not even know that they look at it that way,

470
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Speaker 1: how foolish it is. It's just part of their thinking

471
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Speaker 1: and hockey culture. And like nobody from Ontario or Western

472
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Speaker 1: Canada would never admit that, but neutral observers, proud Americans

473
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Speaker 1: like myself, except I'm rooting for Canada to win at

474
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Speaker 1: Milan because of Sid. We know it, and certainly, and

475
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Speaker 1: Sid would never say that. Sid's never even said that

476
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Speaker 1: off the record, but he's got to know it.

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Speaker 3: Nate Dogg kind of gets this too, a little bit right, like,

478
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Speaker 3: kind of just gets forgotten about because he's Nova Scotian

479
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Speaker 3: as well, gets pushed a little bit on the back,

480
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Speaker 3: but he's Nate.

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Speaker 2: Dog Yeah, I mean well, I mean no, I mean maybe.

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Speaker 3: He's not with him as much as I think he

483
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Speaker 3: should be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why a lot of people don't like Sid,

485
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Maybe the pretty boy thing,

486
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 1: never hair out of place, never says the wrong thing,

487
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Speaker 1: but better than being a sour puss like McDavid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. And there's also you know, network heads

489
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Speaker 3: or talking heads on networks like Ronick. We're calling him

490
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Speaker 3: Sydney Sidney Crosby, remember that, and like he would whine

491
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Speaker 3: all the time, like that was a narrative that was

492
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Speaker 3: detting up early with JR.

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Speaker 1: That might have been just the booze talking all right, Uh, well,

494
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Speaker 1: the McCarthy press conference is coming, gone on. Uh.

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Speaker 2: The only real news Tom, I'm not missing.

496
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: Anything, am I that I'm looking through it right now.

497
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Speaker 1: And he would like Rogers to come back, and that

498
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Speaker 1: he's going to call the plays. But we knew both

499
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Speaker 1: those things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like that's just more confirmation. I guess

501
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 3: the Rogers thing. I was holding out some optimism that

502
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Speaker 3: he would try to move on. And you have to

503
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Speaker 3: say things in a press conference like this, like I

504
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 3: love Rogers and you know, I'm not gonna not talk

505
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Speaker 3: to him or whatever. But like it seemed like he

506
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Speaker 3: was really pushing, like yeah, you gotta just let him decompress.

507
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Speaker 3: And who wouldn't want Rogers back? He's great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And and the other thing is he looks heavy.

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Speaker 1: He does look heavy. He looks heavy. He was emotional

510
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Speaker 1: and comfortable.

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Speaker 3: Maybe started crying right away, well, like like I did

512
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Speaker 3: when he got hired one oh five.

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Speaker 2: Nine, the X.

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Speaker 3: From the one oh five nine the ex Weather Center.

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Speaker 3: and showers possible through the day, high temperatures only in

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Speaker 3: the upper teens. More snow possible overnight with a low

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Speaker 3: near zero mark.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, the inauguration is over, Tom, Is it

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Speaker 1: fair to say that Mike McCarthy won the opening press conferences?

521
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: Art Rooney said, didn't matter? But we both know different,

522
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Speaker 1: and I think he probably did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I had one hundred percent faith that he

524
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Speaker 3: was going to hit it out of the park. I mean,

525
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Speaker 3: he's from Pittsburgh. He was just gonna drop a couple

526
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: of references and it was gonna be easy for him.

527
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 3: Talked about how much he loved Aaron Rodgers, started crying.

528
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 3: Soften people upright at the beginning. It's a pro move

529
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Speaker 3: right there.

530
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh is my world.

531
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the quotes are just incredible coming out

532
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Speaker 3: of it. So, yeah, he crushed the press conference, but

533
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 3: that's that's obvious for someone like him. He's done this

534
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Speaker 3: twice already with franchises of this.

535
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Speaker 1: Almost different coming back for yeah, different coming back, but yeah,

536
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Speaker 1: he said Pittsburgh is my world. He said, here we

537
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Speaker 1: go he cried, and he pronounced will Howard will Hard.

538
00:23:54,680 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: So he pretty much checked checked all the boxes. He

539
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: also said though that he loves the roster. Oh okay, Mike,

540
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 1: if you love the roster, you're telling me that that

541
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: roster underachieved for years, or you're lying, or you're stupid.

542
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he also had the quote like you don't

543
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: just throw the baby out with the bathwater, talking about

544
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Speaker 3: how he wants to build off of this roster, like

545
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Speaker 3: it has.

546
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Speaker 2: A good baby with the bath way. You don't think

547
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Speaker 2: with the bathroom. You don't think that was a reference

548
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 2: to No, No, couldn't have been so anyway.

549
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna build off of this roster, build it up,

550
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: and I guess there's some okay features to it, Like

551
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: you got an offensive line there, right, We think that

552
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: there there's a nucleus there at least it's pretty good.

553
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: You need skill position players, like other than the quarterback.

554
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Speaker 3: That's the main thing he's got to attack this offseason.

555
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: He's got to get a great defensive coordinator can sell

556
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: that defense and guys like TJ wanting doing something different.

557
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's gotta be pedigree there.

558
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Speaker 1: Because as the whole hasn't equal to some of the parts,

559
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: let alone the sum of the paychecks with that defense

560
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: for forever. And that's gonna be the guy with the

561
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: hardest jobs you have to get. Like I mean, TJ.

562
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: Watt point blank refused to line up anywhere but where

563
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: he wants to line up and rush anyway besides how

564
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Speaker 1: he likes to rush. And it resulted in what seven

565
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Speaker 1: sacks total, only one multi sack game.

566
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Speaker 3: I know people were saying, you know Al Harris who

567
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 3: played with McCarthy or I gues at some point along

568
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Speaker 3: the lines, he's familiar with McCarthy. Coach'd under McCarthy in

569
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 3: Green Bay, he had some momentum for defensive coordinator. I

570
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 3: think he's gonna go with as you're saying, like a

571
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 3: high pedigree, established person, like look at his previous hires

572
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 3: in the past two stops. In Green Bay, he goes

573
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Speaker 3: dom Capers, maybe they should get dom Capers again, seventy

574
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Speaker 3: five year old dom Capers to come in here for Pittsburgh. No.

575
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Speaker 3: And then in Dallas he doesn't get, let's bring back

576
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: coach Lebo and then he gets who's like the hypers

577
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 3: and Leble one hundred and seven.

578
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: But he could still play safety for that team.

579
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Speaker 3: And then he gets Dan Quinn in Dallas, who was

580
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: you know, fired for from the Atlanta Falcons head coaching job,

581
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: comes into Dallas, has a decent defense for him for

582
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,239
Speaker 3: a couple of years. Then he gets hired again as

583
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 3: a head coach. So there's a good track record there

584
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 3: of him hiring like former head coaches established names for

585
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 3: DC's I hope he goes that route here.

586
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Speaker 2: What have we got for the trifecta?

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Speaker 1: Tom?

588
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Speaker 3: For today's trifecta Mark, I've got three just kind of

589
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: everyday occurrences that make your heart stop.

590
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: A little bit. I was hoping it was baby metaphors.

591
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: No, it won't be baby metaphors tomorrow, better or not?

592
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: All right?

593
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 3: Number three, when you forget you put something in the oven.

594
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 3: I know you probably don't experience this because you don't

595
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 3: really cook at home, correct, I really don't. But if

596
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 3: you forget that you put something in that oven and

597
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 3: you just you start smelling that burnt smell.

598
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 2: What the hell is that?

599
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: Oh?

600
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: That heart stops beating for us.

601
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: But the only thing I've ever done in the oven

602
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: of my host, which I've owned for twenty six years,

603
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: is to reheat wings because wings in the oven reheated

604
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: are better than in the microwave.

605
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 3: Without question, you've never walked away and forgotten about the

606
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 3: wings being in there reheated.

607
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: No, I'm too anxious to eat. Right, done yet? Are

608
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 2: they done yet? Are they done yet?

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00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 3: Number two for me, and this is really telling of

610
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 3: my generation, but when you reach for your pocket and

611
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: you don't know where your phone is and you just

612
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: have no idea where.

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00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: That's high on my list is well, because my whole

614
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: wife is in that phone.

615
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how as well as a rousing history, I

616
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: hate fred anyone to see without question that it's applies

617
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: for everybody. But that's terrible. I guess you could also

618
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 3: say keys right for an older generation like you, if

619
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 3: you just reach for your keys and you don't know

620
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: where they are, house keyshes worse.

621
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: Phones worse.

622
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: These phone's worse too.

623
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: My keys don't have a browsing history.

624
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 3: If I lose my keys, at least I have my phone.

625
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 3: I can call somebody for a ride. But Number one

626
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: for me, and this is apropos for what's happening with

627
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: the streets out here, is when your car just starts

628
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: slipping and you just have no control and you're going

629
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 3: down it.

630
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm a really good driver. You're okay with that.

631
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm not.

632
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of it, but I I regain

633
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm a really good drive.

634
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: You have to be composed because you do have to license.

635
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: Till I was was I till I was in my twenties,

636
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: believe it or not.

637
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 3: And you were probably so mature that you just picked

638
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: up on a lot of stuff that you know me

639
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: as a sixteen year old idiot. You still don't be

640
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 3: sure now, but when you do lose control, you're right.

641
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: You have to stay. Like the worst thing you can

642
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 3: do is panic in that situation and like start turning

643
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: the wheel like crazy. But that split moment where you

644
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: don't have the grip anymore, oh my god, it's terrifying

645
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 2: That's Danny's on.

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Speaker 1: Route eighty eight in Bethel Park, and of course the

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Speaker 1: first hour of the show brought to us as always

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Speaker 1: by our friends at Shandorovich Shandorovich and Fishman. Yeah again McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: And it was important for him to win the press conference.

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Speaker 1: I mean because the people under the tent, you know,

654
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Speaker 1: didn't need much have been an excuse to to, you know,

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Speaker 1: crown him king of the press conference.

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Speaker 2: But at least they don't have to embellish.

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Speaker 1: I thought, just based on a little bit I did see,

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Speaker 1: and certainly what I've read on Twitter, that he said

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Speaker 1: that McCarthy did a good job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he did a fantastic Oh he's still.

661
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: Doing no better than ten and seven.

662
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he's a press conference.

663
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Speaker 1: He could have brought up dancing girls, the Radio City Rockettes.

664
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Speaker 1: He could have give everybody shots a blueberry whiskey. It

665
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't the matter in terms of what the record's gonna be.

666
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: And actions not blueberry whiskey, iron give an iron.

667
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: Actions are gonna speak louder than what he says in

668
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: this press conference. But the words of Rogers and the

669
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Speaker 3: support of Rogers, and it seems like that's what he

670
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: wants to do for this first year here.

671
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Speaker 2: But bringing this Rogers isn't a good idea.

672
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 3: It's a terrible idea. You can build that bridge with

673
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Speaker 3: a Caarthy is.

674
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Speaker 2: Not a good idea.

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Speaker 1: He's not a bad coach, he's not the right hire

676
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: it's an example. I got a quote from dead Spin.

677
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: Let me say, if I can find that dead Spin, Well,

678
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Speaker 1: I'm giving away my monologue for the next segment, but

679
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: I'll read a little bit of it. He says, it

680
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: feels like the Steelers are an organization stuck in neutral,

681
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: spinning their tires through the late January snow. And that

682
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: is in direct response to the McCarthy hiring to then

683
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: hiring Mike McCarthy. It's a total lateral move. It's just

684
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: an offensive guy instead of a defensive guy.

685
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: But it's still old school crap.

686
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: And one thing that I've been thinking about because the

687
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: big cell with I don't know how you ignore the

688
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: McVeigh Shanahan coaching tree.

689
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Speaker 2: I don't know, especially not even interview them.

690
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: And you know what really does look patronizing that they

691
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: only interviewed three candidates and two were.

692
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 2: Men of color to satisfy the Rooney role.

693
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, like McCarthy was the guy, Like they knew.

694
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: I think they knew McCarthy was the guy even before

695
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: Tom win quit.

696
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: That or like when Mike Tomin informed Art Rooney that

697
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: he was stepping down, Like by the end of that day,

698
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: he was basically like what about Mike McCarthy. Let's let's

699
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: get in touch with him and see if he'd be

700
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: interested in the show. I think that definitely singles signals

701
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 3: that the McVeigh tree. I mean, I was saying it

702
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: during the whole process, like that's the tree that's bearing

703
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: the most fruit right now around the NFL. I mean,

704
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell, for God's sakes, is from that tree. He's

705
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: one of the most forward thinking, offensive minded coaches you

706
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: have in the league and went nine to eight this

707
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: year with the quarterback turmoil and trying to break in

708
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Speaker 3: jj Artot.

709
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Speaker 1: Just say that McCarthy won't change with the times, but

710
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Speaker 1: it's doubtful.

711
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 3: At least he is on the offensive side and he's

712
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Speaker 3: a quarterback.

713
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Speaker 1: No, no, he's not going to change with the times offensively.

714
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: He's just gonna be different than Tomlin in that regarden.

715
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: Which is good.

716
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: I think you're the head coach now. A different side

717
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: of the ball is his thing. No, I do think

718
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: that's good, but I don't know. It doesn't feel like

719
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be much different.

720
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: And the Rogers thing really worries me today because McCarthy

721
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: is great with quarterbacks that you can't dispute that. But

722
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: he walked into the job in Green Bay with a

723
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: locker room with Farv and Rogers in that room, and

724
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: he groomed Rogers and then he made the switch. Kudos

725
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 3: to him for doing that. That's tough to do. Then

726
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: he walked into a locker room with Dak Prescott, who

727
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: was good before he got there. Then he finished second

728
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: in MVP voting under McCarthy's two delich. So he took

729
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: him to another level. He's elevated quarterbacks. He has very

730
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: rarely found the quarterback though. That that's the key part here.

731
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: Or and Cooper Rush. But he made a little bit

732
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: of chicken salad out of chicken cratch, a little bit

733
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: an elevator. Okay, but Cooper Rush ain't a franchise quarterback.

734
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to find that guy. I don't

735
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: want an elevator, tom I want an initiator like running Man.

736
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: Well, at this press conference today, didn't we just.

737
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: Find out a bunch of stuff that we kind of

738
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: suspected that that that hiring him was at least to

739
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: some small degree to try and get Rogers back.

740
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: That uh, that that well, now my mind's freezing.

741
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: Tom As far as confirmations he was going to handle.

742
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: We kind of knew that was gonna happen, right.

743
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: Right, But but yeah, I I just don't think we

744
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: found out a lot.

745
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: But he nonetheless did win the press conference. He won

746
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: the press conference, no question about that. But again, I

747
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 3: think that's it. It was a layup. It was an

748
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: easy press conference to win. The tears just disarm you

749
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: so much right out of the gate.

750
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Speaker 1: No, no, Art, Art the second said his dad, you know,

751
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: his grandfather. Rather, the Chief would have been glad they

752
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: hired a guy from Greenfield on this on the Chief's birthday.

753
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: But how would the Chief have felt about Mike McCarthy crying?

754
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: You know what I think he would have done. I

755
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: think it would have abb him and slapped him. Said

756
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: you can act like a man. What's the matter with you?

757
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: How about I worked that in twice in one week.

758
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: That's fantastic. Yes, it really is the Chief, Like we

759
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: shouldn't really care about, right, how the Chief would feel

760
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: about this as you laid it out, Like the Chief

761
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: made a lot of the chiefs.

762
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of myth making done about the

763
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: Steelers and the Rooney family, But he was the founder

764
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: and by all the constant, great man, great guy. But

765
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: he handled football ops from nineteen thirty three through about

766
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: sixty seven to sixty eight and made the playoffs once.

767
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: Here's the heroes of this franchise. Okay, to be very blunt,

768
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: the heroes of this franchise or Dan Art Junior, Ye,

769
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: Dan's brother. It's in that bloodline somewhere. Bill Nunn, the

770
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: sports center for the Pittsburgh Courier, the black man who

771
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: got a lot of the black players, knew all the

772
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: black colleges. Yeah, got like your stalwarts and your blunts.

773
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: Like the second and third round right right, oh later

774
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 3: than that in some cases.

775
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: And uh, there was one other name.

776
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: Well, no, of course, no, obviously the Emperor was a

777
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: big part of elevating that. Yeah, would you sprinkle me

778
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 3: and Joe Green in there too?

779
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: You're talking.

780
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: I could name a dozen players that help first ultimately

781
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: there just as if not more important.

782
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about the people that.

783
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: Fashion the dynasty and laid down groundwork that exists to

784
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 3: this tale, though not as much as we had hoped

785
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: it would, because honestly, the Tom Win era did a

786
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: lot to undo that. It just did you think mccarthil

787
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: jump start this culture back in place. No, you don't

788
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 3: think he has a chance to do that. I don't

789
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 3: think he was ever really a culture problem guy though

790
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 3: in his previous stops.

791
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: McCarthy, yeah, I.

792
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: Don't think he was. Like, does he fit the mold

793
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: of players coach?

794
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll stop Camp from whining. You think

795
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: he'll stop TJ from whining? Those guys supposed to be

796
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: the leaders.

797
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: I don't think he've used it as whining. I don't

798
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 3: think a lot of the people in those NFL circles

799
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: viewed as whining. No more, I don't.

800
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: Oh that's the way the league.

801
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: Like I on Twitter, looking at the feedback for that

802
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: Woolen guy, the Seattle guy who took the tawning penalty

803
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: and almost blew the friggin' super Bowl in the NFC

804
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: Championship game. A lot of people are supporting him and

805
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: saying it's no big deal. He should not have been penalized.

806
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just let him off the hook, or or

807
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: they find an excuse to blame somebody. And you know what,

808
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: I'm not even sure he should be penalized, but.

809
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: That's the rule, and the official said that's enough, that's enough,

810
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: that's enough. And the guy just kept going because he

811
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: didn't care. That's the thing about what happened there. That

812
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: guy didn't care.

813
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: He had a several warnings that were given to him,

814
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: they were issued to him by the REF, and he

815
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: just kept going. So there's like he almost forced the

816
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: ref to throw that flag on him. And yeah, I'm

817
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: not surprised that people are taking the side of all

818
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: the ref just to try to ruin the game. Or

819
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: I can't believe this happened to him, blah blah blah

820
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. It's it's stupid that no one

821
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 3: can just blame the person that's that fault. Ever, there's

822
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: always got to be another side to a story, even

823
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: when it's as cut and dry as Tarik Rulin was

824
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: an idiot, it should have stopped running his mouth.

825
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 2: Right, right.

826
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: But that's one thing that's gotten lost in the picking

827
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: of sides that we do in America, not least in

828
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: sports and not least in sports journalism. There aren't two

829
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: sides of the story. Okay, everybody either thinks he's wrong

830
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: or right, and each side won't consider the other's point

831
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: of view.

832
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: They won't Holdo.

833
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: To be honest, I think he was wrong, and I

834
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: won't consider the point of view.

835
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: That he's right. I just won't.

836
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: Well, I think there are some circumstances where it is

837
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: just so cut and dry like that. But in today's climate,

838
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: like you just have to invent the other side. You

839
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: have to invent the devil's advocate, even if it can

840
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: be just so ridiculous and you have to stretch so

841
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: far to do it. There has to be that counterpoint

842
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: every time. We can't just ever agree on one thing.

843
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: You know, McCarthy should grow the beard back. Yeah, it

844
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: covers up a lot, right, covers up the chin.

845
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I don't know. That's a tough one. Some

846
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: guys look lighter without the beard. Plus, you can't go too.

847
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: Far with a big white beard, right, speaking from experience,

848
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: because then you get a little Santa Claus, right, like

849
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: you can't get like long.

850
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: Or in my case, a lot Santa CLAUSI. But I'll

851
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: give you an example the other way. Phil Kessel always

852
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: looked thinner when he shaved. When he didn't shaved, he

853
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: looked really jolly.

854
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: Like his face got fat, like the beard kind of

855
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 3: like puffed out a little bit with Phil Kessel, almost

856
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 3: like he was a squirrel storing nuts in his cheek.

857
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: I thought his face puffed out when he had the beard.

858
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: That's what it looked like.

859
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 3: He looks weird though without a beard. Like there's people

860
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 3: when they shave it's disarming. Phil was one of them.

861
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: I think Phil just looked weird and was weird. Hell

862
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: of a wrist shot though, all right. Maria McCarthy talked

863
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: from the inauguration, Tom would you say, what's the better word,

864
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: inauguration or coronation?

865
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: Inauguration?

866
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: I do too, because he's a man of the people. Greenfield,

867
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: Here we go. What else do you say? Pittsburgh is

868
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: my life. It's been my life too, but I have regrets.

869
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: One oh five nine the X. Now here's your chance

870
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: to win one thousand dollars, just as you're this nationwide

871
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Speaker 1: key word on our website.

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Speaker 2: Jack, that's