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Speaker 2: Let me know what's going on? You look? Well wait,

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Speaker 2: wait's right behind your computer?

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Speaker 3: Shut up, computer?

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Speaker 2: What is That's a screw? But I only saw the

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Speaker 2: corner of it.

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Speaker 3: Does something just happen right now? Payton?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what happened?

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Speaker 1: I lost the diamond in my ring.

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Speaker 3: Wish ring, my engagement engagement ring. Let me see like

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Speaker 3: the diamond.

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Speaker 1: No, not like one of the big ones on no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no oh?

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Speaker 3: Did you just notice it right now? That's like what

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Speaker 3: happened to my sister.

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Speaker 1: Annoying phone, I know, my text and my mom she's like,

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Speaker 1: we'll just take it in. I'm like, well, I just

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Speaker 1: got it back after seven weeks, Like that's effing.

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Speaker 2: In a link supposed to secure those when they just

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Speaker 2: piss me off?

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Speaker 3: Could it be that's why could even get the ring

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Speaker 3: so cheap? Because it's maybe a disappearing diamond disappearing like disappeared.

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Speaker 1: I actually saw the price snag on that ring and

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Speaker 1: it was not you see it in the corner.

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Speaker 4: No oh yes, that's gonna be really hard to find.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh no, did you just notice it? So it

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Speaker 3: could have been last night today? How small is liten?

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Speaker 3: Because remember that had the colin. We searched the whole place.

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Speaker 3: Remember we found one that was a fake.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's it's one of the little like small

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Speaker 3: It's brilliant.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be really tough to find.

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Speaker 3: It's weird because once you see this missing, it's obvious

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Speaker 3: it's going to bother you forever.

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Speaker 1: I can't see it, and I'm like, we're supposed to

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Speaker 1: go take these engagement pictures. So it's like I need

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Speaker 1: to go and push these back again. Do I just

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Speaker 1: go with my photo booth idea until we can actually

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Speaker 1: get some pictures taken and not make them quote unquote

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Speaker 2: I'm just ir but I don't know if that'll show

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well usually engagement pictures like a close up.

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Speaker 1: And guess what, I tell me why I think it

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Speaker 1: need to ensure the ring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it'll we'll find it when I do my enema.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I see it right on the corner, right

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Speaker 2: on the price Puia Ford.

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Speaker 1: That's so annoying.

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Speaker 2: And you would imagine a corner one would be the

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Speaker 2: the edge and I and it's like, how are you

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Speaker 1: It's a big ring? Like and I feel like I

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Speaker 1: whack it everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna find It's.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be positive. Kyle didn't give up and she found it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't find it. God that just I didn't find it.

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Speaker 3: I had to pay to replace it. Oh man, well.

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Speaker 1: Annoying af Yeah that's no fun.

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Speaker 5: You're so soaring all right?

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Speaker 3: So this could be part of our afterwards podcast, maybe

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Speaker 3: the see if the dream Lady can find Peyton's ring interesting.

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Speaker 3: Occasionally I get to sit in from my friend Georgian

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Speaker 3: Ore on Coast to Coast am and this guest is

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Speaker 3: what I would like describe as like a badass Mary Poppins.

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Speaker 3: Her name is Teresa. She is from England and she

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Speaker 3: went to college to study why we dream what we dream?

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Speaker 3: And when you guys come in here first thing in

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Speaker 3: the morning and you tell me your dreams, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: we should have Teresa on the phone and have her,

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Speaker 3: have her discuss it, have her break it down. Because

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Speaker 3: I don't remember what she said. I just know that

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Speaker 3: I believe everything she says is real. Hello Teresa, Teresa.

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Speaker 6: I love that because my tagline here is what the

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Speaker 6: and Spiritual Studies. But I'm going to go for bad

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Speaker 6: ass Mary Poppins. I love that, and I take it.

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Speaker 6: Can I copyright that?

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Speaker 2: Yes, but it's yours. It's all yours. So John Jay

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Speaker 2: was telling me about this bizarre dream head and I thought, well,

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Speaker 3: I have lots of weird dreams.

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Speaker 6: I thought it was totally cold. Okay, let's go for it.

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Speaker 3: Yah, Okay, So I'm not trying to be funny. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to tell you the real dream. This is what

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Speaker 3: really happened. It was like there was a toilet and

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Speaker 3: in the toilet there was a large like two large,

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Speaker 3: for lack of a better phrase, turds like the size

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Speaker 3: of NFL football's two big ones in there. There weren't mine,

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Speaker 3: and I look at them and they start to come out.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think they were mine. I don't think

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Speaker 3: because I remember the dream kind of like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: who did that? And then they come out of them.

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Speaker 3: I'm Rich's partner, Rich's partner on the other show.

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, I'm just trying to work whose dream is

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Speaker 6: important to know who's dreaming what?

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Speaker 3: Okay? So the giant turds come out of the toilet

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Speaker 3: and morph into one like weird, like an animal, like

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Speaker 3: a giant, like a sloth or ant eater kind of

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Speaker 3: then it morphs into like a beautiful greyhound dog and

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Speaker 3: what the hell is that about? Like that really stuck

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Speaker 3: with me. My wife and I also have a dog

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Speaker 6: Is there anything else but you want to show?

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Speaker 3: And no, that's it. That's how goes. It's chasing me,

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Speaker 3: with me. Like it's been about four days, sins, I've

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Speaker 6: Well, toilet dreams are actually very very common, So don't

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Speaker 6: worry if you're having them and you're thinking that I'm odd,

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Speaker 6: You're not. There are the most common dreams because when

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Speaker 6: you go to the restroom, let's say restroom. It's a

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Speaker 6: very intimate personal experience, but it's also letting go of

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Speaker 6: something that no longer serves you. Right, So what you're

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Speaker 6: doing is it reflects your ability. This dream, for me,

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Speaker 6: So it's actually a really beautiful dream. Despite the sort

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Speaker 6: saying that what you're discarding, actually what you're letting go of, right,

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Speaker 6: that you've been through, a mindset, a situation, a relationship

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Speaker 2: That's dream.

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Speaker 6: You explored that dream very positive.

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Speaker 6: Initially you're frightened of what you're letting go and it

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Speaker 3: But wait a second, that was as far as I

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Speaker 3: don't wait, I don't think it wasn't my poop, So

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Speaker 3: it was some right, I don't think it was mine.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't. It doesn't matter because it's the symbolism of

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Speaker 3: What if it's a dog rescue?

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Speaker 6: The dream you have, you see, is trying to help

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Speaker 6: the symbolism. Their herds are what has once nourished you

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Speaker 6: You're rejecting it.

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Speaker 2: If it's a beautiful you're amazing.

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Speaker 3: You're pretty good saving a jar.

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Speaker 6: Now you describe them magic in every tragic dream symbol.

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Speaker 6: the dreaming mind is your nocturnal intuition, your higher self,

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Speaker 6: When dreaming, nightmares are gifts.

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Speaker 2: Oh, nightmares or gifts. When you're dreaming about other people.

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Speaker 4: So did you, at some point, John Jay, tell me

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Speaker 3: That was real? That would be a terrible dream, high doubt.

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Speaker 4: And it was this dream that I was in a house.

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Speaker 6: Mean, oh, beautiful? First of all, recurring dreams are your

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Speaker 6: I've learned that the hard way through life. You need

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Speaker 3: That's so good, That's awesome. Okay, I have another dream.

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Speaker 6: A calm is she a calm in the storm or not?

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Speaker 3: She can't be? She says she's I would say the

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Speaker 6: Comes the shadow. You all have a shadow side. But

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Speaker 6: most of the time this dream is saying, you get life.

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Speaker 6: You get life that you know it's your your perception

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Speaker 6: to you to decide, and the dream is beautifully symbolizing

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Speaker 6: It's showing you in a kind of poetic way what

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Speaker 2: About that.

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Speaker 3: See so far? Are those we think you're negative? Like

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Speaker 2: You need to go get you one of them, tird dreams.

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Speaker 2: Go get you one of those.

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Speaker 5: My next book title, Teresa.

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Speaker 3: How do people get ahold of you? Is there an

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Speaker 6: Thank you, I'm very prolific. I have a website ww

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Speaker 6: What www dot Teresa Chung dot com Teresa Chung. My

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Speaker 6: doing national dream callings just like this, and they're so

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 6: It's unexpected.

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Speaker 3: I have a recurring dream that I like to bounce

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Speaker 2: The whole time.

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Speaker 5: And it and you gotta keep so much they dreams.

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Speaker 6: There's so much there. Flying is the ability to rise

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Speaker 6: that's the symbolism of BA. But you're flying above a

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's very cool. Is the truth about the dream

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Speaker 6: Oh no, absolutely not. And I've spent so long trying

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Speaker 2: When I was in college, Teresa, we did a whole

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Speaker 6: No, the power of a name. A name has an

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Speaker 6: And this is what you've got to do when you're

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Speaker 6: novel Actually Nightbourne, where that the leads character is a

438
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 6: psychology professor, and that book is a thriller, but it

439
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 6: doubles up as a crash course in dream decoding because

440
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 6: I've figured a lot of people won't read nonfiction books

441
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 6: about the power of the dreaming of mind, and I'm

442
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 6: on a mission to get everybody to wake up with

443
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 6: dream recall and a better understanding of themselves. On their mind,

444
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 6: and I figured that a novel might be one way

445
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 6: to do it for people who don't naturally want to

446
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 6: read nonfiction but want to get lost in a in

447
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 6: a page turner.

448
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,239
Speaker 3: I just looked you up online. You look exactly how

449
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 3: I pictured you would. Yeah, bad ass Mary Potkins. Hey, Well,

450
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 3: one last dream, I want to run by you. This

451
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 3: is a dream I've had since I was a kid,

452
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 3: and I want you to think it's okay. So it's

453
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 3: the Witch from the Wizard of Oz. Think think of

454
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 3: her green face. But she's got perfect gigantic white teeth

455
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 3: and a mean smile. And I think she lives in

456
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 3: my house in the walls, and she can watch me

457
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: at all times. And I know she's watching me, but

458
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 3: I'm afraid, so I just kind of I just kind

459
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 3: of do my thing. But I think she's watching me,

460
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: and I'm afraid everyone's watched. She's gonna pop out.

461
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 6: What a beautiful shadow dream. But also, if you know,

462
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 6: with with Wicked everywhere around, your dreaming mind is seizing

463
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 6: on that symbolism. Basically, it suggests that your shadow side,

464
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 6: an unacknowledged part of you, feel threatening yet yet powerful.

465
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 6: This is basically inviting you to face your fears and

466
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 6: transform them into self knowledge and personal strengths. It's shadow work,

467
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 6: isn't it. And also often what we fear about ourselves,

468
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 6: the parts of us, what we fear about ourselves. Often

469
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 6: all they want is our understanding and acknowledgment. And usually

470
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 6: if you could again close your eyes and have a

471
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 6: conversation with that dream which see what she wants to

472
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 6: tell you. Most of the time, she just wants to

473
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 6: be noticed that there's a part of you you know

474
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 6: that you know that is symbolized by her. Have a

475
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 6: little chat with her and let her go.

476
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 3: Well, I had it when I was a kid, but

477
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: it stuck with me. It was traumatic. I remember being

478
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 3: I remember my mom waking up and my mom hugging me,

479
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: and I was describing that my mom this witch. It

480
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 3: was living in the walls. No, I haven't had it since.

481
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: But your poor mother, child.

482
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 6: Of dreams of childhood, dreams of monsters. It's the adult

483
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 6: world is scary and unpredictable. So that's what it was.

484
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 6: What it's symbolizing was your fit in a really fairy

485
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 6: tale like childlike way, your fear of growing up. And

486
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 6: you know, adults sometimes in our lives you know when

487
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 6: you're a child, an adult can turn into a monster

488
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 6: that they have a moment where they lose it or whatever,

489
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 6: and it's frightening for a child. So your dreaming mind

490
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 6: is cathartically trying to help you release that fear, using

491
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 6: sort of symbolism from the Wizard of Ours, etc. But

492
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 6: it is also, you know, showing you that ahead life

493
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 6: is a balance between our shadow and our light sides,

494
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 6: and we mustn't fear our shadow. In fact, our shadow

495
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 6: is where all the growth happens and where all the

496
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 6: creativity is. Our shadow is very very important, you know,

497
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 6: and the worst thing we can do is repress or

498
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 6: deny it. What you need to do is dialogue with it. Again.

499
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 6: Nightmare work is very helpful there because you know, writing

500
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 6: down your nightmares, dialoguing when you're awake with the symbols

501
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 6: and what they want to tell you about yourself, so

502
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 6: that you acknowledge it rather than repress it. Because the

503
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 6: worst thing you can do with your shadow side is

504
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 6: to deny it exists, because then it becomes more and

505
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 6: more terrifying. It becomes like Veckner, you know, a monster,

506
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 6: it takes over the beast. Thing you can do with

507
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 6: your shadow side is understand it. Maybe have a joke

508
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 6: with it, because you can't have laughter and fear together.

509
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: Vecna is what the turd turned into, like that type

510
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: of thing and then really kind of and then it

511
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 3: turned and then it turned into the loving dog. Yeah,

512
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 3: that's what happened. That's the best way to describe to Vecna.

513
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 3: They are for real. But Teresa, it was a pleasure

514
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: talking to you. Thank you so much for coming on

515
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: our show. You're fantastic.

516
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: Come back sometimes.

517
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would love to Sweet dreams everyone.

518
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: Sweet dreams, Teresa, Thank you very much. Good morning, Jason.

519
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 5: Hey, how's it going on?

520
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: What happened? Man?

521
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 5: Oh man? So I was listening to you guys podcast

522
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 5: about you know, the bad dating apps, and I'm currently

523
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 5: on just one dating app. You know, I'm new to this.

524
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 5: I'm on a Facebook dating app. Well, this past weekend,

525
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 5: I was supposed to meet up with somebody that's from Mesa.

526
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 5: We've only talked in the phone. We've never I've never

527
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 5: seen her in person or anything like that, but I

528
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 5: have seen explicitive pictures that she sends. Okay, whatever, I'm

529
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 5: still I'm still style about the situation. And so my

530
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 5: son had a game this weekend. I told him. I said, yeah,

531
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 5: I'll meet after two o'clock and she, you know, she

532
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 5: messaged me and said, hey, I'm in Marana. Well I'm

533
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 5: not in Mirana, I'm in Tucson. I'm a little bit

534
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 5: further in, about forty minutes away from Mirana, on the

535
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 5: other side of Tucson. And she got really upset about that.

536
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 5: And I was like, well, what what's going on, And

537
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 5: she's like, well, I'm here. I told you I would

538
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 5: get a hotel room. And I said, yeah, just tell

539
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 5: me where you've got your hotel room, and I could

540
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 5: pick a place that we can engage at, maybe a

541
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 5: restaurant that we can you know, so if we can

542
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 5: see we even enjoy each other before we whatever, you know,

543
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 5: I mean, even decide maybe we can meet up at

544
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 5: a hotel or whatever. And she got really upset and

545
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 5: started saying, because my situation is a little weird, let's

546
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 5: let's just real quick recap. I was in a relationship

547
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 5: for sixteen years with my AX. We have three kids together.

548
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 5: It is weird. I currently live with my acts still.

549
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 5: We still reside in the same residence, different parts of

550
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 5: the house. And because financially right now, I can't just

551
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 5: jump up and even get my own little place. My

552
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 5: ax did cheat on me. Unfortunately we are, we don't

553
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 5: have anything together. We've never been married ever, sixteen years,

554
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 5: never been married. I did propose to her, but with

555
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 5: our kids playing sports, they always came first and they're

556
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 5: in club sports.

557
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: Right three, hold on, hold on, hold on. I want

558
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: to get you back on track for second, because now

559
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 3: you're like, I did propose to her, but because of

560
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: youth sports. Like, okay, so you're going to you're going

561
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 3: to meet this girl from Mesa.

562
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 5: She different.

563
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 3: She shows up in Marana and so she has a

564
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 3: hotel room. So you guys have talked about getting intimate,

565
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 3: like she's getting the hotel room. Correct, Okay, okay, okay,

566
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 3: So now why is she mad?

567
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing is, she was sending me explicit picture.

568
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 5: It's like this no tomorrow. Well she's mad because I

569
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 5: told her, well, what would you like me to do?

570
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 5: I still I told her I have to get my

571
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 5: hair cut and then I meet you. What was like

572
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 5: me to meet you? And she's like, well I'm in Marana.

573
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 5: I'm like okay, well that's forty minutes away. I don't

574
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 5: know where you want to meet. You're telling me you're

575
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 5: at some bar right now waiting for me to meet.

576
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 5: Say again, so.

577
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: Meet at the bar. What's the problem, right?

578
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 5: And I had no problem doing and that. I said,

579
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 5: would you like? But I didn't want her to wait

580
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 5: there for forty minutes, you know, I mean, actually you're

581
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 5: gonna been in like an hour, you know, just sitting there.

582
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 5: I had no I said, well, what would you like

583
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 5: me to do? Would you just want to meet me there?

584
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 5: She's like, well, I came down here thinking you were

585
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 5: in Marana. I said, well, no, I don't know why

586
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 5: you thought that. I've never I don't live there. I

587
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 5: live in Tucson's forty minutes away. No problem. She said,

588
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 5: well I knew I should have trusted my gut. And

589
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 5: I said, okay, what does that mean? And she's like,

590
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 5: I should have trusted my gut. I know you still

591
00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 5: you're married, You're you're hiding yourself or you're that's your fiance.

592
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 5: And I said, no, not at all, and she goes, well,

593
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 5: guess what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put you on

594
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 5: the APP. And I don't know what she's talking about,

595
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 5: but I guess it's a new app called the Tea App.

596
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 5: So then I got the texas from everybody. You it's

597
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 5: somebody off you're still married, and I was like, I've

598
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 5: never been married ever, never been married. So it went

599
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 5: off and I got all these texts all weekend about

600
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 5: how I'm a liar and everything. It just it was

601
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 5: horrible because she was trashy. I've never I never put

602
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 5: anything out there to her. I never asked her money.

603
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 5: I've never sent it spicial picture. It's just me, my

604
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 5: facial pictures. Her every other morning I got nude pictures.

605
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 5: Now I'm not trying. I'm not gonna say her name,

606
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 5: but it's just like I'm the trashy one because I

607
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 5: wasn't aggressive and say hey let's go get somebod to

608
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 5: eat somewhere first before we you know, so maybe you

609
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 5: want to go back to the hotel by yourself. Maybe

610
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 5: I'm not the one. I'm just trying to make her

611
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 5: respectful for almost herself.

612
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: I told her, you know what I mean, Well, you

613
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: gotta stay out those apps, Jason, stay out those apps, dude.

614
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 5: Just one Facebook app. I don't even do tender any

615
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 5: of that stuff because I don't know what I'm doing.

616
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 5: I'm new to this game, all right.

617
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 3: Well, dude, we're glad you shared that story with this man.

618
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: Thanks for listening.

619
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 5: Thank you,