WEBVTT - 11-20-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.559 Don't want to be an American back half the week, 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.760 got a love It Sloanly seven hundred WLW and a 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:08.480 big sports weekend head More on that a little bit 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:11.840 later and news involving Joe Burrow will have that covered 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:12.600 for you this morning. 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:15.720 Could be maybe possibly will we see him in action 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.279 against the Patriots of New England on Sunday. So you're 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:23.079 saying there's a chance before that. The city wants to 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:24.919 move forward on a plan to finish the banks, but 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.240 the county says we're broke, it's not a priority, and 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:30.960 we've got more disagreement between the county and the city. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.800 The plan calls for up to eight hundred million dollars 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.080 in redevelopment over the next fifteen years to complete the 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.920 five remaining lots at the now twenty year old banks. 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.760 And we have a new twist Council unanimously approving four 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:45.240 million to buy the former free store food bank location 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:49.960 on Central Parkway that's next to TQL that's causing speculation 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:52.920 as a possible site for a new arena. All this 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.880 and more. He is the development guy on City Council. 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.600 That would be council Member Seth Walsh on the Scotsland 0:00:58.680 --> 0:00:59.840 show seth. 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:01.280 Gomore, Scott. 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:04.040 See how Man, Yeah, doing well. 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.440 Lots to unpack here, and this is so in your 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:11.080 wheelhouse obviously, let's start with this new information about buying 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.039 the four million dollar a lot. I'm looking at the 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.120 aerial on Google Earth of this thing. I'm looking at it, 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:20.679 going okay, well, uh, it's next to public television, public radio. 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.080 Across the street is Queen City Radio, so it's in 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:27.039 the shadows of TQL Stadium. But I'm trying to see 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.720 how you fit an arena in there? Can you do 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.319 it if CET goes away? Although I know they just 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.679 spent a ton of money on their their remodel. The 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.160 other side of this is a Duke Energy substation that's 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.920 not movable. You've got houses behind it. The neighbors don't 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.679 want this going across Central Avenue and keep it on 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:47.440 Central Parkway. Is this the site for a future arena? 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.000 I mean it could be very well, could be. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.360 Yeah, it's one of the sites, and you know, Scott 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.480 to take a look at it. You know, it's identified 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:57.400 in the arena study that was done last year in 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.760 twenty twenty four as one of the four central sites 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.640 for where we could be putting an arena including the 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:07.680 existing location. And that's why this acquisition is so important. 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.079 Even if it ultimately doesn't become an arena. Let's get 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.040 control of the land so we can have that conversation 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.959 and we can drive this conversation and make sure that 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.400 we are evaluating all the options and we don't ultimately 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.359 get strung out with somebody having control of a valuable 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.240 parcel that we want if we want to put an 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:23.760 area there. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.000 So yeah, it absolutely could be an. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.359 Arena possibility there. 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.120 So moving some stuff right, of course, you know, we 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.400 know what's going on with the public public media. CET 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.600 owns the building in the air rights, the city owns 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.359 the land itself. Cost about fifty million dollars to move 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.320 this thing, and you know you've got to come up 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:40.200 with fifty million. 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:40.720 Dollars to do that. 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.400 If that's a possibility, then certainly you could put that 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:47.280 right next to TQL Sadam and almost like what you know, 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.560 putting the arena next to pay Corp, which I think 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.840 would be great, But we're not going to do that obviously, 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.040 because now you can share facilities, you can share infrastructure. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:57.840 That that's good, But. 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.200 Doesn't that then take away what we're talking about here 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.200 from the Banks, because I'm sure that the entities at 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.520 the Banks, and now you're negotiating with the county on this, 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.320 want to keep the arena in its present location. A 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.320 new arena if they're to build it, why spend all 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:11.680 the money in the Banks. If you're going to build 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:12.520 an arena in the West. 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:16.880 End, well, the Banks, regardless of whether there's an arena 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.600 there or not. They already have two stadiums, so it's 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.120 not like we would be taking all the supporting opportunities 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.640 away from there if it did move, which again is 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:26.560 not even close to being decided. And I think there's 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.400 a very real conversation you have about the arena staying 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.080 at the Banks, and there's some interesting renderings put out 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:36.120 about that recently. But if it moved off the Banks, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:37.840 I think that's part of the larger conversation we need 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.400 to have about the Banks. This is the front door 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.880 to our city and it's the last great frontier of 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:46.400 how we can really rebuild the downtown right on the river, 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.040 how people are coming into the city of Cincinnati, and 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.520 the opportunities there. I think we need to be envisioning 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:53.960 in a way that is more than just expecting sports 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:55.760 teams spill to keep it alive and active. 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.839 Frankly, which is what gets me excited about the plan. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.280 Is this also maybe leverage because the county stand we're broke, 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.640 it's not a priority. The ferris wheel will screw up 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.240 the Freedom Center on all these other things. And you 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.680 guys so far to the man and women on city Council. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.080 You want to move forward like yesterday on this bank thing, 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.120 and the County's not going to go anywhere you need 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:19.000 both entities to go. Is this possible? This four million 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.200 dollar land by at the Free Store in Central aven 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:22.960 has had a way for you to go. Hey, listen, 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:24.159 we've got some leverage here. 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.000 I don't see this as a leverage play. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.599 I see this as having a vision for what we 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:33.880 want Cincinnati to become, and I think for the future 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.440 of Cincinnati for the next ten to fifteen years. To 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.960 really put us on the national stage, we need to 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:40.919 have an arena and we need to have a thriving banks. 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.320 I don't think it's an either or, and I think 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.599 either location, any of the locations for the arena helped 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.560 solve that problem. But we can't just build an arena 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.000 and not be solving the banks situation. Yeah, and likewise 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:54.760 we can't solve the bank situation and not hav an 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:55.680 arena for the city. 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:57.880 So my opinion on this. 0:04:57.960 --> 0:04:59.920 Is this is called vision and this is called leadership, 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.320 and it's not trying to leverage or play anybody off 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.200 each other. It's trying to move our city and our 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.400 region forward. And I'm really excited about that because that's 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.760 what we need. We need that type energy right now. 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:16.200 Seth, You can't control what you take your contemporaries over 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.599 at the county are doing by they stretch of the imagination. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.240 You don't control them. But can you do an arena? 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.680 Can the City of Cincinnati do an arena without county involvement? 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:27.680 You know a lot of people say no. 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.840 My answer would be, you know, Scott, you and I 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.360 have talked of development a lot. Every development project you 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.760 begin on is hard and it's complicated, and it takes 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:38.800 a lot of creativity to figure out how you get there. 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:40.920 It's a lot easier for the counties at the table. 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.240 But if it's not at the table, then that means 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:44.800 we have to get more creative on how we solve 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.640 the problem. And I think it's something we have to 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.840 commit to as a city in the region and then 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.479 figure out the answers to it regardless. Look at what 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.960 we did with the convention center, three hundred million dollars. 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.080 That wasn't found overnight, and it wasn't found from one source. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.080 And that's what I think is going to take to 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.200 the arena. I would like the county to come to 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:03.640 the table. I would like the county to be part 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.320 of this conversation. I would like them to be driving 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.279 the conversation. But I also think that the city should 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.280 be prepared to figure out ways to fund it even 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:12.560 if the county doesn't come there. 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.720 What does that look like relative to financing? Is there 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.599 significant private money involved? As there was a TQL that 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.039 you can be confident in saying we got enough private 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:22.839 money to pull that on. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.359 Well, you're asking a question much further down the line 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.039 than is the reality right now. Again, we're at the 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.159 very beginning stages of the arena conversation. 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.800 But in the Arena study it does specifically call. 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.200 Out that modern day arenas are being built with about 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.320 one third of it coming from private money. Yes, I mean, man, 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.440 that is in the tunes of hundreds of millions of dollars. 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:47.320 So no, this would not be a pure public funded project, 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.159 and it would be a project that would require private 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.320 EFTs to get involved. It require figuring out how we 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.560 keep it occupied throughout the entire year, so it's not 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.480 just sitting there vacant. There's some really good questions to it, 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.120 but again it's something we have to commit to. You 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.279 commit to it. It's like anything in development. You say 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:03.560 we're going to do it, and you figure out how 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:04.720 you're going to do it from there, What. 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:05.840 Is the timeline in your mind? 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:08.320 So it's up to me. 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.520 As Jerry said, it would have been two weeks ago, 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.400 you know, we had been doing this. I think this 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.320 needs to be the priority of the next term for 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:16.800 city Council, for the mayor. 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.239 So I think by twenty. 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:20.880 Twenty nine we need to have answers and I'd love 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:22.200 to see shovels in the ground by then. 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.880 All Right, I'm talking to council Member Seth Walsh of 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.920 Cincinnati City Council on the show. With the news that 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:31.560 the city's purchased land at near TQL Stadium, speculation is 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.120 that maybe in Arena could go there. Seth Walsh not 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.920 rulling that out money is the question because typically as 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.520 a county and city enterprise. But we can move forward 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.520 without the county involvement here, which is interesting because Commissioner 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.080 Alisha Reese said on the show, you know, we're kind 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:48.720 of broke right now, We're gonna have the money, worried 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:52.040 about tax payers and property taxes going up on all 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.040 this other stuff, and other members said, it's not even 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.400 on our radar right now. Denise Dreehouse, the President said no, 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.200 probably not. And that's just the best banks let alone arena. 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.480 The banks have come before in arena. If they have money, 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.280 do the banks? They certainly don't have money to do 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.040 an arena. Let's focus on the banks thing. How do 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:10.640 you move this forward if they're reluctant or just say 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:14.480 simply we don't have the cash. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.120 That's a million dollic question, isn't it. The banks has 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.760 never been done exclusively by the county. It has always 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.920 been done through a partnership. I think the conversation that 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.640 needs to be had and is happening now there's a 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.040 steering committee that brought this plan together. If there's a 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.840 steering committee that suggests these ideas, it is a lot 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:35.120 of stakeholders ranging from members of the Bangles and the 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.880 Reds to those who are on the banks. Already two 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.160 members of the city in the county, so it's not 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.880 like that. This is not a conversation actively happening between 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.360 the city and the county. What we have to do 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.880 is keep pushing and as from a city perspective, continue 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.080 to provide support. You challenge the leaders who are in 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.800 the room, who are doing the planning and making these 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.160 things reality, to go out and find us these projects 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.000 and these developments and then come back to us and 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.319 tell us what it takes to get to happen. The 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.480 resources exist for development, we see it all the time. 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.880 You have talked about a number of times. Right to 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.160 do that, we need the projects being brought to us. 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.160 And so there are people including Phil Becker, came presented 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.719 about this who this is their job to go make 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.840 the plan the reality now and that's how this happens. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.439 And when they come to us and they say, hey, 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.760 we've got a building, this is what it takes, then 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.840 we start answering the question how we get there, whether 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.280 that's through subsidies, whether that's through cras, whether that's through whatever. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.120 We start answering at that stage says Walsh. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.720 Denise Treehouse, the commissioned president, said this thing would be 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.240 twenty four up to twenty four stories, and she was 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.840 reluctant to agree with that because she worries about blocking daylight. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.920 This sounds like I don't know Hyde Park on the River, 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:46.320 doesn't it. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.880 And that's my comment that I made during council. Obviously 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.080 we have different meetings to discuss the same topic. But 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:59.280 downtown is designed to be built big. It is designed 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.520 for these tw It is you know when you walk 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:02.160 around the banks. 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:03.600 I was walking around it this morning. 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.720 You know, these eleven twelve story buildings feel small because 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.560 they're dwarfed by the towers that we already have downtown. 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.720 And so I don't agree with that assessment. I think 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:14.840 that the reality is we need to build height and 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:16.440 we you know, the bigger we build it, the more 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.040 people are going to live there, the more bustling it's 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:19.880 going to be, the more successful our downtown is going 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.199 to be. And I think that we need to keep 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.280 that perspective of what is built already feels small, and 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.319 it's not if you took what was built there, you 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.120 drop it in say Hi Park, as you were just 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.240 alluded to it'd be you know, twice so three times 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.120 as tall as what we're talking about building in High 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.120 Park already. So it's not small, but it feels small. 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:39.960 We need to do better on the banks. We need 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:40.440 to do better. 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.440 Okay, the specific plans for this thing, it's going to 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.200 be up to a twelve hundred new housing units, obviously 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.440 high rise and condos and stuff like that. There's gonna 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:52.240 be hotel there, plus retail and entertainment, as we mentioned, 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.520 up to twenty four stories tall. The new lease with 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.800 the Bengals allows for the taller buildings. Couldn't do that 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.920 before because they had rights to the airspace or so 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.000 ungodly reason. But you're talking about over these five lots 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.800 doing a lot of different things in that regard. People 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:08.320 are hearing this and go away in a minute now. 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.920 Unlike what you were talking about with maybe new arena 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.720 in the West End. This is taxpayer money. And how 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.280 would taxpayers feel about subsidizing luxury housing? 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:17.880 Is it? 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:19.400 Will they be pushed back in the city on that? 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:22.160 There certainly could be. 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.200 And again you're we're going down a pathway of assuming 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:26.960 what is going to be there. What needs to be 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.439 there is housing and what that type of housing looks 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.960 like is a question that developer needs to tell us. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.040 I'm a big proponent of just adding density to it 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:36.360 and what that looks like, Let's. 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.319 Figure it out, you know as well as I do. 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:42.160 The more density you have, the less usually end up 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.360 meeting per unit because it can support it. That's why 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.000 one of the big questions I asked was, let's not 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.800 captus the twenty four stories. You keep saying up to 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.160 twenty four stories. It may need to be bigger than that. 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:54.439 And I think we should be okay with that, and 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:56.520 I think we should be open to that conversation because 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.600 we want these projects to work, and if money is 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:00.960 tight and being we want. 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:02.440 To be protective of the public money. 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:04.600 We make sure that these can cash flow and make 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.520 it make sense and the developer wants to take it on. 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.920 I mean, ultimately that's the goal here. And if we 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.199 make it difficult for the development to happen, then yeah, 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:12.200 we're gonna have to come up with a lot of 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.000 subsidies and so there's a balancing actor. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:15.840 Yeah. I think it's really cool. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:19.240 Is my daughter last month was in Minneapolis visiting a 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.079 friend in her place. Is like looking literally looking over 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:25.760 the stadium and the ballpark, and I was like, man, 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.520 that's really really cool to be able to look down 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.240 and you know, and a lot of people, a lot 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.880 of young people especially love that, And that's kind of 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:33.720 what you're proposing here. I know a lot of cities, 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:37.280 major League cities have that, and I tend to agree 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.720 with disass Stars watched on that as like it's twenty 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.320 four to two short. It may and not be tall 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:42.240 enough in that regard. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:47.400 Yeah, I mean, when I walked around downtown, one of 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.400 the things I think about it. Maybe it's just because 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.480 you know, this is what I think about. I guess 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.000 it's like, man, it would be so cool to them there. 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:57.120 When we were designing the downtown, when we were building 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.040 the towers for the first time, and we were creating 0:12:59.080 --> 0:12:59.760 the skyline. 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.679 That's the opportunity that's in front of us. And we're talking. 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.640 About five plots of big acreage right in the heart 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.439 of downtown, literally two blocks south of you. 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.920 Know, the core of downtown. We can do that. 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:13.960 We can build the next one hundred hundred and fifty 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:15.760 years of what Cincinnati is going to look like and 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.280 feel like, and what young people are going to want 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.960 to be part of you're right overlooking these stadiums. 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.080 You're you know, going out on Tuesday. 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.600 Night because they're living right there, like really making it 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.200 something cool that people are traveling around the country to see. 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.080 That's an amazing opportunity. Like, let's not lose sight of that. 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.280 It's not just five parcels. It's like a huge opportunity 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:34.680 for the next hundred years of Cincinnati. 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.920 Okay, A legitimate question here about the timeline is the 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.360 banks is already twenty years old. The stadiums are over 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.560 twenty years old. At this point, we know everything has 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.440 a certain longevity unless you're talking maybe I don't know 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:50.360 the Horseshoe, Fenway Park, Wrigley Field. These are not those 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.880 kind of facilities Great American and pay Corps respectively. So 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.800 we're already twenty years into this thing. Another fifteen years 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.880 makes it thirty five. At some point, are we building 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:02.840 something for the future when the future with those stadiums may. 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:03.520 Have to change. 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:07.600 Well, And that's that's the point that I made earlier. 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.240 You know, what we need to be designing the banks 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.480 for as longevity, and it needs to not be just 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:15.720 exclusively is there an arena? Are there stadiums there. What's 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.680 the sport team doing for this day? It needs to 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:20.480 be designed around a place that people are going to 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.680 want to live and stay and be part of. You 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.280 think about four Street or we're seeing a lot of 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:27.040 development and activity happening, people moving to it. You know, 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.560 they're there because the buildings are beautiful. They're there because 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.360 they're walkable to everything that you want to do in 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.160 the downtown area. And that's always going to be the 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.440 case with downtown. That's the same question we have to 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.280 be answering with the Banks. It's not just. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:40.360 About pay Court Stadium. 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.720 It is about the future of who's going to stay 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.360 and want to live there. Again, that's a really cool, 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:46.480 exciting opportunity for me. 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.320 It is at the same time, you know, in circling 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.440 back to the question about the arena, with the purchase 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.120 of the property Seth Walsh at near TQL Stadium, that 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:55.800 a new arena could go there and you could do 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.880 it without county participation, which I think is causing a 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.040 lot of people to maybe give the radio their speaker's 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:02.680 side eye this morning and their heads on the little 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.440 side eye right now and go, WHOA, that was a bomb? 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.000 How much weight do the Reds, the Bengals and the 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.600 Banks Working Group have in this whole equation. Now we 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:14.160 know that the contract was needed negotiated to allow twenty 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:15.880 four stories or more to go up because the Bengals 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:17.880 would control that. But there's a lot of stuff these lots, 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.080 it looks like, you know, talgating lots and things like 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.120 that that the Bengals have a say in. The Reds 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.360 obviously carry a lot of weight in this equation too, 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.920 as well as those who invested with the Bank's Working Group. 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:32.080 And what's already down there regarding that, whether it's expansion 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:36.160 of what we're talking about here or the arena, how 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:37.720 much do they have a saying where or else it's 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:38.840 going to go and how it's going to work out. 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:42.120 I mean, when you say how much do they have 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:43.360 to say are you talking about the arena? 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:44.240 Are you talking about. 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.920 Well, well, development the banks, but also let's factor the arena. 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.080 Let's start with that seth. I mean, can they just say, hey, 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:51.800 we're you're not going to put this in the West End, 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:53.120 You're going to put it at the Banks and you're 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.920 gonna we're going to tear down the tired Heritage Bank 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:57.920 Center and maybe it's two years, but we're going to 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.440 put a new one here. And that's what we've decided 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.080 because we're the power brokers. I think a lot of 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.600 people think that's the case inside the inside city Hall. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:07.280 Is that true? 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.000 Well, when you talk about the arena, and as we 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.520 talked about the arena study earlier, you know a third 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:15.400 of that, you know hundreds of millions of dollars that 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.200 are probably gonna have to come from private entities to 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.640 make that a reality. And that's gonna be a big 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.560 part of the conversation. If if the private money that's 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.680 coming to the table says we're not building it at 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:28.000 this location, X, y Z wherever that is, guess what, 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:29.720 it's not gonna be built there because you're not gonna 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:30.480 get private money. 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.200 If they're saying that's not where it can go. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.600 So if the power brokers quote unquote whoever that is 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.000 in this conversation. 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.840 The illuminati said it's the Illuminati, we'll call it what 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:40.280 it is. 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.280 Whatever we want to call it. If they want to 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:44.680 go a certain location, they're gonna have to come to 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.000 the table too. I mean, that's the thing for the arena. 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:47.920 For the banks. 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.920 We're not adversaries here. We all trying to run the 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.200 same direction. And if you have a vision where you 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:54.680 want to go, you're gonna have to step up to 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.480 the table with the money and the resources and help 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.560 makes that happen. None of these are gonna be cheap, 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.400 but you know, the future in the vision of Cincinnati 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:03.520 is going to come at a cost. And I think 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.440 that's a good investment for us because this is something 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.680 we're going to be talking about, you know, for an arena. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.880 We've been talking about arena for fifty years from the banks. 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:11.920 Hopefully that the next one hundred years of success. People 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.320 are proud that we did not saying, man, these guys 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:15.000 really messed up. 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.560 Yeah, yeah, all right, And then I think the same 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:19.840 is probably true when it comes to the redevelopment down 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.720 there as well. They have a say, but they don't 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:22.560 get veto power. 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:26.639 Correct. Yeah, that's exactly it. 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.280 You know, we're all a team, but ultimately we got 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.720 to be looking long term about what's being what's happening here. 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:33.959 They have a seat at the table, they've been very 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.159 involved in that. My understanding is they're very supportive of 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.280 what the plan is. That's that's exactly what this needs 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.639 to be all right, team, let's make it happen together. 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:41.720 Got it? 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.639 Council Member Seth Walla's always a pleasure, love the insight. 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.080 Thanks again for coming on the show and Ed and 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:47.240 I'm sure we will want to talk but have a 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.720 wonderful thanksgiving you too, Scott, all right, take care, appreciate 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:52.560 your time as always. Let me get a time out 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.240 in some reaction maybe here too as well. And that 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.119 sounds like a you know what, a big middle finger 0:17:58.880 --> 0:17:59.920 to the county Commission. 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.639 Don't you like you know what? You guys won't move up. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.760 We got this, we got. 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.919 This interesting more to follow, Sloany, here's new seven hundred 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:08.920 w WT Cincinnati. 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:12.639 It's a Scott Sloan show. 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:17.080 On seven hundred w LW on air, online on demand. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.080 To be the iHeartRadio app. You can stream it as well. 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.879 And just posting up on social the conversation I just 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:26.040 had with Congress Congress members council Member Seth Walsh in 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.040 Congress People on yesterday, counsel Member Seth Walsh, who is 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.000 the big pro development guy on council. And make no 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.280 mistake about it, you'll be hearing this now, I'm guessing 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:39.200 probably today in the news cycle about his proclamation, it's 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.000 actually saying, look, we're going to do an arena with 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.320 or without the county. Now, this on the heels of 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.280 what we're discussing with the Banks project too, which you know, 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.000 you go down there, well down there, even if you're 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:51.560 not a Reds or Bengals fan, you go to the area, 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.760 you go, why do we have these concrete It looks like, 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:58.919 I don't know Cincinna's version a stonehenge. I think a 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.800 janky stone. We've got all these concrete piers down there 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:04.840 with nothing on it. You know, there's a rebar exposed. 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:08.520 It's unsightly, it's awful. You look, I go twenty years ago, 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.920 we've got the bags going and we still have undeveloped laying. 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.480 They want to get this together and spend seven hundred 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.240 and fifty to eight hundred million dollars to build twenty 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.160 four stories or higher, get a hotel, get housing down there, 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.399 get young people, young professionals in the city. A lot 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.720 of questions about that relative to affordable housing, which I understand. 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.080 And we've got a great political divide over this because 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.080 the Commission says we're broke, we don't have the money 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:36.359 twenty four stories is too high. There's no impetus to 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.240 get the sun by the County. Meanwhile, the city in 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:41.720 South Walsh and other members of council, and I haven't 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:45.000 surveyed all members of council, but I know it's unanimous 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:46.480 if they all feel we need to move forward and 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.879 need to move forward now. They wanted to start this 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:52.960 thing yesterday and the County says it's not even on 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.439 our radar right now. Can you do that without the County? 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:59.800 The answer is no, So we pivot to mayor aftab 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.120 vault and two days in a row. I give credit 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.800 where credits due, and I give criticism where criticisms due. 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.560 I'm not carrying the water for anybody. I just want 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.760 stuff to work. I want common sense to rain, and 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:13.679 I want freedom. Those three things, free to as an 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:15.560 adult to side adult things that I want to do 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:19.879 with my life outside and inside wherever it might be, 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.280 as long as I'm not hurting somewhere else. Generally, that's 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:26.679 my life philosophy. You do you, I'll do me. We 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.000 can help each other along the way. That's how things 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:30.560 should work in a perfect world. We're not in a 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:33.760 perfect world. But the County says, hey, we don't have 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:35.040 money to the banks. Do you think they're going to 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.639 have the money to do an arena project? No, And 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.520 so the city goes under aftad pure Vall, the mayor 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:43.240 announcing yesterday we just bought spent four million dollars buying 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.640 the old freestore food bank location on Central Parkway, which 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:48.159 is kind of a cross if you like. 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:48.679 Where is that? 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:52.080 It's a cross right next to CET but across kind 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.520 of kitty corner from Queen City Radio, which is a 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:56.840 great bar right there in the shadows of tiqu Up 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:59.680 and Seth Wall saying well, you know CET, we own 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.720 the land there. We can move them fifty million out 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:04.320 of whatever would costs for an arena. It's not that 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.919 big an ask. We've got enough room to drop an 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:10.080 arena right there. Can you do that with out the 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:13.280 county involvement? The answer is, well, we prefer to partner, 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:17.240 but ultimately we own the land, we own the airspace. 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:21.240 We could get the developers together, the city could do 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:24.840 their own damn arena. How about that? And what does 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:26.600 that mean then for the future of the Banks. You've 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:30.399 got great American Ballpark, which, by the way, they're going 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:36.160 to start getting our proposals bids basically recusts our bids 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:40.119 to remodel Great American like we just did pay Court. 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.720 So city's got to look at that kind of money. 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:49.480 So can the city build a new arena, leave tired 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:53.400 old heritage Bank center behind and kind of start developing 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:55.840 what the bank should have looked like twenty years ago. 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.280 Because of the failure of the county and the city 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.400 to get together and come up with a plan, we've 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:03.520 got twenty years later, still undeveloped lan in the most 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.200 pricey area of town in downtown Cincinnati. 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:07.960 I think the. 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:11.520 First salvo in the Civil War between the count of 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:13.960 the city has been fired by Seth Walsh on The 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:17.119 Scotsland Show this morning. It's gonna be interesting how this 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:20.359 plays out. Speaking of stadium, speaking of sports, and speaking 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:26.760 of entertainment. The other big news this morning is whether 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:30.320 or not Joe Burrow will play against the Patriots in 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:33.960 New England on Sunday. Now you look at their record 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:35.919 with the three wins, go man at the path of 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:37.920 the playoffs is damn near impossible. You never want to 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:39.800 say never in the it's c NFL parody and all 0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:42.800 that stuff, But knowing the way the Bengals play defense 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:45.640 and sometimes offense is not happening. We know Joe Flacco 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:48.520 is possibly beyond a repair at this point. He's having 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:50.360 a heart He's not even practicing, can't throw a ball 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:53.160 to Jake Browning is not throwing. The other element here too, 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:56.840 is this bombshell that our own Tom Brandman dropped this 0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:00.119 morning on his show, like maybe an hour hour and 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:03.000 a half ago, in his interview with the head coach, 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:07.240 Zach Taylor. If he didn't hear this, he asked him 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:11.040 in practice, what did you see out of Joe Burrow 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:11.440 this week? 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.320 That was pleased? I bet he looked good first day 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:16.760 taking eleven on eleven reps, and so that was a 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.119 great starting point for him, and I hadn't done that 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:20.840 for two months. So I was pleased before I saw. 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:24.040 You know, I did the NFL on Fox for twenty 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:26.080 five years, and I know that the league and the 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:30.919 teams take these injury reports very very seriously. He is 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.560 listed as a full participant. Is Joe Burrow going to 0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:35.400 play on Sunday? 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:37.480 Well, we don't know that yet. 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:39.240 You know, it's kind of a balance of Joe Flacco 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:41.679 has n't been practicing on Wednesdays. So it was a 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.040 great opportiony to get Joe Burrow out there to take 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.720 as many reps as possible. So yeah, he took all 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:48.760 the reps, but but that was a balance with Joe 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:51.840 has not been practicing on Wednesdays last few weeks, and 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:53.840 so we'll just keep working through these next couple of days. 0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.439 When do you plan on making a decision about that? 0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.159 Because look, it's what everybody's talking about. I mean, you 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.080 were born maybe at night, but not last night. 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:01.600 You know that. 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:05.080 That's what everybody is talking about. Is Joe Burrow coming back? 0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:07.639 So you know, I mean, is there let's put it 0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:10.920 this way, is there a chance that he plays Sunday? 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:13.000 Well, I'm not there yet. 0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:15.800 You know, it's one day of practice. Isn't going to 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:16.960 lead to that decision yet. 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:17.919 So we're here. 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.080 Is the time we have at our disposal and come 0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:21.240 with the best decision we can. 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.320 Are you amazed by how quickly he's recovered from this. 0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:29.000 I have Julieusfording, who was an Olympian marathon runner. She 0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:30.960 had the same thing to Joe Burrow said it was 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.720 the most grueling rehab that she's ever been through. And 0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:36.280 she's been through back surgeries and knee surgeries and all 0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.080 that kind of thing. Are you even amazed that he's 0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:41.560 even on the practice field at this point in time? 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:43.480 Am I amazed now? 0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:45.760 Because I've watched this guy for the last six years 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:49.760 and I've seen him. He's obviously wired different than everybody else. 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:50.800 That's why he's. 0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:51.399 Who he is. 0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:55.200 Why he's a National champion, Heisman Trophy, winning, first pick 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.320 in the draft, all that kind of stuff, NFL comeback player, 0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.440 the all the stuff that he earned. 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:00.840 And so. 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.480 I've just now seen enough to where I just know 0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:08.480 that's who he is. And this isn't the first rehab 0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:10.320 he's had to go through, so he knew what that 0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:15.320 process was. Obviously different injuries. Proud of him, not surprised, 0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.040 maybe surprises the rest of the world, but is really 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:20.000 impressive the work that he's done to get back on 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:21.000 the field as quickly. 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:21.080 As he did. 0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:23.280 Coach you feel mind, So it sort of take us 0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.959 inside football here on something like this, and look, you 0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.840 have to make a decision, and you'll consult with others, 0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.240 But will this be a situation where Joe might come 0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:35.240 into you, Joe Burrow, he might come to you and 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.119 say hey, you know, coach, I feel like I'm ready 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:37.600 to go. 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:45.520 Oh yeah, yeah, And then that's that's that's my job, 0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.520 you know, to balance, balance all the information and protect 0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:50.400 the player and make the. 0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:54.880 Best decision possible. But yeah, absolutely, he's he's certainly got 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.320 his opinions when he's put in the work and feels 0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.400 how he does, and and we'll balance all that information. 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:00.359 All right. 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:03.159 Come on, come on, coach, come on, I'm gonna circle 0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:04.320 back to it one more time. 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:05.479 I have to do it. 0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.440 There are more people that listening to this morning show 0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:14.880 than anywhere else, and they are huge me too, Bengo fait, 0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.920 Come on, coach, you can tell us right now Burrow's 0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:18.440 playing it. 0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:19.480 He's playing it. 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:21.479 Yeah, No, I wish I could. I wish I had 0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.480 that decision today, you know. Honestly, it's I'm going to 0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:26.760 take in all the information I can and make sure 0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.520 it's the best one for for Joe and our team, 0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:31.640 and we'll go from there, all right. 0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.000 That is Zach Tanner on with our Tom Brenhaman this 0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:36.400 morning on seven hundred WLW. I also love how Tom 0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:38.040 dropped in the do you know who? I was lying 0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:41.600 at the beginning there about twenty five years the NFL. 0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:43.440 I thought he was. 0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:46.080 Tom's questions were awesome, as as only Tom can do 0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:50.879 right about what in pressing him U And so you 0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.199 know it's coaching it in answer. And the way the 0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.040 timeline on this works, I believe I'm gonna have Tony 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:57.320 Pike on after ten o'clock to talk about this. Is 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.960 you know you have until what tomorrow or is it Saturday? 0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:09.800 I think to make the roster move. And we know 0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.119 Joe Flacco is not anywhere near a hundred percent with 0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:15.520 his injury. We know that while Jake Browning is Jake Browning, 0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:18.040 is it almost forcing their hand like, hey, we have 0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.399 no one else, We're going to have to play Burrow 0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:26.399 if he's cleared to play. Now again, you are risking 0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:29.160 the future because you imagine, mean God forbid, something happens 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:31.560 to him in this game against New England or in 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:33.199 the next couple of games for that matter. You know 0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:37.800 you only got three wins. The playoffs are it's kind 0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:39.840 of like an led not even a light, but like 0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:41.959 a small led light at the end of the tunnel 0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:44.159 you could barely see if you squint your eyes. The 0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:46.439 chances of them making the postseason. I don't know, if 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.240 you're a core Bengals fan, you don't want to hear that, 0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.280 but that's real. It's awfully difficult to come back to 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:53.000 three and seven, even with Joe Burrow. But you know 0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.719 that Joe Burrow doesn't play defense either. He also doesn't 0:27:57.640 --> 0:27:59.919 generally turn the ball over on off. We saw that 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.880 last week as well, So we could see him tomorrow 0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.560 or maybe Saturday, and then do they activate him from 0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:08.399 the game because they'd probably have to cut Browning to 0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:11.960 make roster spot for him. And does that even make 0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:14.080 sense at this point? And if you're going, okay, well, 0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.720 this is great to say, listen to the you know, 0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:20.000 go back in your head there. And as Tom was 0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:23.080 pressing him, and he seemed like, kind of, I don't 0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:25.360 know if your guy wasn't ready to play. 0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:26.560 And maybe I'm reading too much into this. 0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:31.200 I probably am, but speaking with people, as I often 0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:35.960 do about matters, he can kind of It's not body language, 0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.360 but it's more like voice language, you know what I mean. Boy, 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.760 he seemed b offfully loose, didn't he. He seemed like 0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.040 to be in a really, really good mood for a 0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:47.920 guy who's facing I mean, let's face it, even in Cincinnati, 0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.160 he's on the hot seat. Duke Tobin's on the hot seat, 0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:54.200 there's no question, and he's looking at it's going, well, 0:28:54.760 --> 0:29:02.040 my MVP quarterback is out. I've got Joe Flacco, who 0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:04.800 is great those first game, but now he's hurt. And 0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.480 Jake Browning is the reason why Joe Flacco's here and 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.920 also the reason why we've lost seven games, not all seven, 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:15.640 but certainly, you know, if he were pressing you on 0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:19.200 the health of Joe Burrow and Joe wasn't ready to play, 0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:24.320 don't you think he'd kind of shut that down. But 0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.480 he sounded like loose and happy and ready for New England, 0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:30.760 the best team in football, to come to Cincinnati on Sunday. 0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:33.920 And again, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but 0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:36.880 I wonder if there's a chance it's like it sounds 0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:41.280 like maybe Joe Burrow will play on Sunday. Again, complete 0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.680 speculation here, but man, he seemed to be in a 0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:49.080 really good mood coach when being pressed, and normally if 0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:50.960 that's not the case, you know, they get their data 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:52.840 up a little bit and push back, and coaches are 0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:56.040 good at shutting down. Journalists are people asking questions and 0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:58.040 try to make you feel stupid, and that's kind of 0:29:58.040 --> 0:29:58.600 what their job is. 0:29:58.640 --> 0:29:59.280 I understand that. 0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.680 Anyway, we'll see how this plays out, and maybe some 0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:03.880 insight here from Tony Pike come up after ten o'clock 0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:06.920 this morning on seven hundred ww's Scott's Loan Show. We 0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.360 got that going on. We also have this if you're 0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.640 traveling over the holidays. There's been a four hundred percent 0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:16.240 increase in unruly passenger incidents on planes over the last 0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.960 six years, four hundred percent increase. So the Secretary of 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.800 Transportation is launching a new campaign to restore what they 0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:26.760 call courtesy in class to air travel, urging travelers to 0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:30.280 ask themselves questions like are you dressing with respect? Are 0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:33.600 you keeping control of your children? Are you saying please 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.400 and thank you? Sounds like Terry Thiji all over again. 0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.920 I'm watching you, You're watching me, I'm watching you. The 0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:44.360 DOT believes that this is going to help ensure the 0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:47.920 safety of passengers and gate workers, flight attendants, pilot's, ground crews, 0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:50.360 and stuff like that. I think it's an interesting strategy 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.800 in the sense that is it nineteen fifty all over again, 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.719 Because you know that mom guilt thing, you really grandma 0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.280 guilt that we know that there's a back life. We 0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:01.760 know that doesn't work, And I get it. You know, 0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:05.520 there's an appeal to personal responsibility, to social norms, to 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:10.800 civility and etiquette as a safety concerned but you know, 0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:15.000 certainly it's kind of vague. It's also unenforceable, and it's 0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:18.520 voluntary compliance. It just sounds a little condescending and lecturing. 0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:21.720 But let's face it, does it really address the root 0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.880 causes to be kind of We have crowded over crowded planes, 0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.959 we have delays, we have stress, we have people who 0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:31.200 are drinking before, during, and after the flight, and of 0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:33.600 course we have an attitude where everyone is the most 0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:35.880 important person on the face of the earth. The most 0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:39.080 important person is me, is what the belief is. And 0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:41.560 when you put that toxic mix of all that together, 0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:44.280 I think just asking to be nice to each other, 0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:47.520 it's going to miss the mark because they're not. Because 0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:52.120 it's it's all relative, you know, morality of sense has 0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.400 become a relative thing. You know, how dare you tell 0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.880 me how to dress, don't tell me what to do, 0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.800 don't disrespect me. Meanwhile, you're disrespecting everyone else by acting 0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.440 the way you're acting had a large number of the reasons. 0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:06.400 You know, airlines are, despite the spike, air travels still 0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:11.360 relatively cheap. So in that tends to let's face it, 0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.720 if if not that certainly rich people don't act poorly. 0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:18.760 I mean, look at the Wepstein thing, right, But in 0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:20.920 that regard too, is you know, when when the price 0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.240 tickets come down everything to afford a flight, there are 0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:24.840 people there who just simply don't know how to act 0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.600 in public. You see it all the time on flights. 0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.720 So in the other limit too, Quite honestly, there's no 0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.200 mention of airline or staff training or accountability from them, 0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:35.760 because I've seen flight attendants and maybe you're having a 0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:38.760 bad day, but I've seen flight attendants act poorly and 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:42.120 it's certainly not the fault of the passenger if they're 0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:44.720 short or angry with you, and that escalates a situation. 0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.200 I know, you can have a bad day, but the 0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.240 passenger is not allowed to. And it doesn't addrust the 0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.680 as I said, seat size, overbooking, service cuts, and people 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.959 maybe flying infrequently and not understanding how things work. I mean, 0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.800 you see fights over overhead space all the time. You 0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.160 know you'll let somebody bring in I don't know, a 0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.840 piano with them and sticking overhead and there's no room 0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:06.120 for everyone else. It's like, well, why aren't you stopping 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.080 that at the gate, and they won't do it. So 0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:10.880 airlines bring a lot of the sound themselves, but I 0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.200 don't know. Asking about whether or not you should be 0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:16.520 dressing with respect or use some courtesy in class, maybe 0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:18.760 you always try to, but if somebody's being jerky with me, 0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:23.640 I'm gonna give you jerky times ten right back. And 0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:25.840 it just it doesn't make for a pleasant experience. So 0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:27.880 I mean, that's say that seems kind of like a 0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.560 desperate ploy But I don't I think the people who 0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:32.200 would go, yeah, okay, I can do that are not 0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:33.920 the people that are gonna cause problems in the first place. 0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:35.880 Let's call it what it is. We've got a news 0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.440 update where return T Pike is here. We'll talk about, well, 0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.400 you just heard with Joe Burrow. Will he or won't 0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:43.400 he on Sunday is the question, and it's I don't know, 0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.960 it's starting to sound like maybe more like he may 0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:48.120 be the guy. We may see QB one back at 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:51.560 the Helm against Drake May and the best team in 0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:53.520 the NFL the New England Patriots, believe it or not, 0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:55.600 on the Home of the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred 0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:57.120 W do WD Cincinnati. 0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:57.360 Don't want to be. 0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:04.120 Here, seven hundred WLW Welcome to It's on this busy, busy, 0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:08.239 busy day, the big news sports wise as we had 0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:08.760 on the weekend. 0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:09.040 Here. 0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:12.279 Of course, we've got a huge game with UC at 0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:16.480 Heritage Bank. We've got though, which I understand. Ticket sales 0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:17.960 are going pretty good, so if you want to get in, 0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:19.839 make sure you get your tickets now. And I want 0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:23.319 wait because of that parlays into Friday Night Football at 0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:26.439 pay Car with Saint x An Elder. You've got FC 0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:30.360 playing messy at TQL, winner takes all, and then the 0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:34.120 Bengals on Sunday against the high flying league leading Drake 0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:36.120 May and New England Patriots coming to town. And as 0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.400 a Bills fan, I want to see the Bengals crush 0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:40.279 the Patriots to help me out a little bit, but 0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.160 I also want to see the Bengals do well. I 0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:44.320 have question whether or not Joe Flacco can throw the 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.719 football any longer. I don't think Jake Brownie could ever 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.960 throw football. In the last couple of years and now 0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.160 the question, as you heard with Tom brunhaman this morning 0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:54.520 here on seven hundred WLW in his weekly with Zach Taylor. 0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:59.440 Zach Taylor said, well see, and he wasn't an unusually 0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.239 good move, which leads me to believe that there's a 0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:05.280 good chance that Burrow may be starting on Sunday against 0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:07.120 New England on that is the hall of fame of 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:10.440 the living legend, the straw that stirs the drink, the 0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:11.680 songbird of his generation. 0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.839 Tony Pike, oddly enough, you're just gonna leave out UC 0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:18.319 hosting BYU and your weekend plans. Oh yeah, just an 0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.520 insane ambition to start this. I had a feeling you 0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:23.719 may bring that up with BYU coming to town. And 0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:26.160 I know how high you are on the Bearcats, right yeah, yeah, 0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:28.920 yeahing's everything's great in bearcat Land. 0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:30.320 At Arizona, at home. 0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:31.080 Come on, yeah. 0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:34.280 Not ideal, not good, not ideal, controlling their own destiny 0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:36.200 not anymore for the Bearcats. 0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.200 Not good. But we'll see what happens. 0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:39.880 I mean, there's a chance you could beat by you 0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.440 and sure it be a stunnard, be unbelievable, knock them. 0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:43.840 There's a chance for a lot of things. 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:45.960 A lot of things gonna happen. There's a chance that 0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:51.560 Joe Burrow may play. I played earlier Tom Brenneman in 0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.320 his about three minutes of him talking to Zach Taylor, 0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:56.880 and I think I took away with it because and 0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.280 you clarified, I know that they have to make a decision. 0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.759 Let's start with the timeline here. What has to happen 0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:02.640 for Joe Burr to play. 0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:05.640 Yeah, they would essentially make the decision on his availability 0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:08.400 tomorrow and then ninety minutes leading up to kickoff on 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:13.120 Sunday as your active or inactive report. You know, I 0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:16.360 I've listened multiple times now to Zach with Tom today, 0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.680 and I listened to I'm a big Dan Rolofsky guy, 0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:20.960 and I listened to Dani Rolofski yesterday and Danie Rolofsky. 0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:23.480 As soon as the report came out that Joe Burrow 0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:26.000 was full, Dan Rolofsky said, he's going to be playing. 0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:30.399 You don't There's been so many things the Bengals could 0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.920 have done in the last twenty four to forty eight 0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.799 hours to not make this what it is put him 0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.440 as limited on like practices are open to start and 0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:41.200 then it's closed. If you haven't listed as limited. No 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.600 one's going to bat an eye. You listened to him 0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:47.680 as a full participant. Zach Taylor has had ten chances 0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.360 to shoot this down and say, ah, we're just not 0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:54.000 there yet or close. He needs time and he's not 0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:58.040 done that. Everything that they could have done to eliminate 0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:00.880 this conversation we're having right now could have been done 0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.400 which would lead me to believe that number nine is 0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:05.600 going to be available to play. 0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:08.680 I think the other thing too, and I if you 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:14.800 listen to this the three minutes, Zach Tatlor's awfully jovial 0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:18.040 with Tom Brenneman. Like normally, if if you're starting quarterback 0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:20.279 of Joe Brow, he can't go, he's still he's not 0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.040 gonna be active. We know Joff Flacco is not good 0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:23.960 health wise right now. 0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:25.000 You don't have Jamar Chase. 0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:27.960 You don't have Jamar Chase, right you don't have Trey Hendrickson. 0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:32.680 You you got Jake Browning. Basically maybe maybe not, wouldn't 0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:34.640 you be a little bit more shirling, like quit asking 0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:36.440 me about this, Let's just focus on New England. Typically 0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.200 that's Coach you saying it's like we're focused on New 0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:38.600 England and. 0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.719 At the court of your three wins. Yeah, you're a 0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:42.680 three weeks. You're not going to come on on a 0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:43.439 Thursday morning. 0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:44.520 Your job is on the line. 0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:46.880 Yeah, ready to attack the day. And then everything you 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.320 just outlined to me, the biggest is the best player 0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:53.040 on this offense, Jamar Chase is not going to play 0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:57.360 on Sunday. So already, mentally, three wins, how are you 0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.239 going to get an offense to function without the best 0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:03.520 wide receiver football? Your defense tied an NFL record, You've 0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.600 given up twenty seven or more and nine straight games. Normally, 0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:08.600 that's not the attitude of a coach that's gonna come 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:11.719 on and sound as you mentioned, as jovial as Zach 0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:17.680 Taylor was today. It's incredible. I again, I at this 0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:20.400 point fully think that that Joe Burrow is gonna play, 0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:24.640 and that opens up the brief small window of if 0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:26.760 Joe Burrow is gonna play, can they run the table? 0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:30.319 Who knows? But it does give one more if it 0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.320 feels like this team we talked during the red season 0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.880 feels like the Reds multiple times were like five seconds 0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:39.000 away in a boxing round of getting knocked out right 0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:40.960 and they lasted and they survived. The round and then 0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:44.440 they came out swinging again, and I feel lucky out 0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:46.120 your guard down. It's like and I feel like we've 0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.200 done this like five times with the Bengals already, and 0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.759 it felt like after the Pittsburgh game, coming off the 0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:53.800 loss to the Jets and Bears, it was like, it 0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:56.479 feels like it's over. Why would you bring Joe Burrow 0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:59.640 back on Thanksgiving? Well, now, all of a sudden, mathematically 0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:02.719 you're a little still there, right, and that that that 0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.600 gives and breeze life back into a lot of Bengals. 0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:06.759 It's that like a light at the end of It's 0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:09.880 almost lot like the flame from a birthday candle. Right, 0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:11.640 I mean, I like one of your wives, that's the 0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:15.520 one that gets blown out of I think that's light. Yeah, 0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:20.640 it continues to light light up again. It officially does 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:23.319 a long tunnel. I can't see that far. And it 0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:25.400 makes you think, man, if he could have played against Pittsburgh, 0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:26.520 I think you had a better chance. 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.680 Think you may win and win that game. But New 0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:29.480 England scares me. 0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:31.319 Although you look at New England's record and maybe there's 0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:34.080 a home run me talking is they're kind of due 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:35.719 for one here, you know, they're close to a couple 0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.240 of games, and and you know this isn't the seventy 0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:41.160 two Dolphins for crying out loud. Uh, you got Baltimore twice. 0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.239 That'll be a battle Buffalo. Who knows which Bills team 0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:46.200 shows up there in Miami, Arizona, Cleveland. Uh, those should 0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:48.160 be wins there. So if you bank on it and 0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:49.919 say he's back, maybe you do get those three wins 0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:51.960 at that six. Can you get three more between now 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:55.000 and then? Pittsburgh would have been great, sweet the series, 0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:57.040 but New England's going to be really, really tough. 0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:59.080 But you got a chance with Burrow there. Yeah, the 0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.799 AFC North was kind of what everyone was circling. That's 0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:03.879 what makes the Pittsburgh loss so devastating. 0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:04.719 But you're right. 0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:06.200 I mean, if this is a New England team where 0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:08.320 you're talking about it's the top defense in the NFL 0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:11.480 and an offense that struggles. It's what New England does 0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.800 offensively that worries me because it's the Bengals inability to 0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.120 stop anyone on the defensive side of the ball. And 0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:20.040 here comes Drake May who's an MVP favorite or CO 0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:22.680 favorite right now, to win that award in just his 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:27.320 second year in the NFL. They mesh together so well 0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.440 they present. What they do really well is what the 0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:32.680 Bengals don't do, which starts with tackling and so many 0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.680 other things. But you know, the Joe Burrow aspect of 0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:37.719 this is odd. You know, if Joe Burrow was healthy 0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:39.839 against the Bears and the Jets, they probably still lose 0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:41.680 those games. He you couldn't have played any better. So 0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:45.240 can Joe Burrow's return or potential return help the defense? 0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.680 I don't know. But as you outlined, how odd is 0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:51.040 it that we sit here today talking if the playoffs 0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:53.879 were to start, the playoffs in the AFC don't have 0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:57.200 Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson. I mean, there are 0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:00.640 a lot of stars on the outside looking in. Something's 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.040 going to have to give as the season rolls on. 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.960 And if Joe Burrow is playing, at least you get 0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:07.600 the stretch run like you had last year, where you 0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:09.160 feel like you have a chance every week. 0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:11.319 Now, Ultimately, here's the other thing too, three and seven. 0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:13.359 That's a long shot to make the playoffs. Teams don't 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:17.320 make the playoffs usually that that's the case. The concern 0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:19.240 on the other side of this Okay, do we shut 0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:21.359 Joe Burrow down. We're just talking about this yesterday, right 0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:24.880 now today, Okam, he may play a different thing, God forbid. 0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:27.200 Something happens down the stretch here he comes back, maybe 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:28.840 a little too early, something else happens. 0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:30.160 This team has a lot of holes. 0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:33.920 Maybe something occurs, and now that sets him back in 0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:37.480 the offseason. Yeah, you got to think about that. If 0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:38.839 you're Zach Tannler, Yeah, you know. 0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.480 The initial worries for me is not Joe Burrow in 0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:45.880 the shotgun because it's his left foot. The initial worry 0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:48.359 for me has been about going under center. I mean, 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.640 we have talked so much in the last weeks about 0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:55.080 Joe Flocco's ability to unlock this offense and help the 0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.359 old line and help the running game because he goes 0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:01.600 under center. Joe Burrow is already not comfortable going under center. 0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:04.560 And the one thing that I worry about if you 0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:08.040 think of under center plays, how many quarterbacks do you 0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:10.520 see on a weekly basis going under center and as 0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:12.400 they push away from the center, they get stepped on 0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:16.440 by a guard pulling, or a center pounds on a 0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:19.360 tone that is surgically like that. That to me was 0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:23.000 always the worry of Okay, if Joe can play, can 0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:25.399 he play in a full capacity? Are there limitations where 0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:27.640 he's only in shotgun? Because I don't know if I 0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:29.799 still trust this O line in just Shotgun. I don't 0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.640 know if they can run the ball consistently in just shotgun. 0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:35.360 If you're telling me Joe Burrow has no limitations, he 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:38.520 can go under center twenty five times, great, But are 0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.080 you willing to put him under center and ask him 0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:43.160 to violently push off on that left toe and run 0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.439 the risk of someone stepping on him with a lot 0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.719 of traffic in the middle there? That would be what 0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:50.600 would worry me? And again, can you can you avoid 0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:54.759 a setback that then takes Joe Burrow out for the offseason? 0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.920 And then we're talking about another offseason where Joe Burrow 0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.920 was compromised less than ideal off season, a less than 0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:05.240 ideal training camp that would be the ultimate doomsday scenario 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:05.799 for this team. 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:06.640 Yeah, and something. 0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:09.359 This is a lesser example, obviously, but I had a 0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:11.920 ruptured tendon to my foot. I'm walking around with a 0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:13.600 boot and I was about five weeks I got the 0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:15.319 boot off. You're like you met, you're letting a really 0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:18.239 significant progress I'm about eight weeks out right now from 0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.120 that and I'm doing PT and stuff, but I know, 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.040 like I still am reluctant to push off and do 0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:25.359 And you know, granted I'm thirty years older than he is. 0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:28.480 He's getting treated like a waygoo beefcalf for the rubbing, 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:30.960 hum and massage. When we got trainers, a whole different paradigm, 0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.920 the nutrition, the training all. I appreciate that, but at 0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:36.120 the end of the day, it's still a in this case, 0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:39.319 a ligament and his toe versus a ten in my foot. 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.000 You know, it's you're still in that eight week window 0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:44.360 and it's like, okay, we can start generally you start RHIAs. 0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.640 So yeah, he may be clear to practice and he's 0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:48.879 throwing and said, but you could still reinjure that and 0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:50.520 it wouldn't take as much as it would Prior to. 0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:53.279 Anyone that has ever been through a major type of 0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:57.879 surgery nose, there is one wrong move or one wrong 0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:01.560 thing and it has set yourself right. So there is 0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:03.799 to me. I went through it when I was at 0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.520 uc and playing because I had the same injury back 0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:09.400 to back years. And I've said this before, there's a 0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:13.239 physical side to rehab. That sucks. The mental side, to 0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:16.799 me was worse because for Joe Burrow, he's had so 0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:20.280 many major injuries. When you get injured, you know, okay, 0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:22.880 physically this is going to be a grind. But mentally, 0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.480 in that setting, you're away from the team, you're alone, 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:30.040 you're rehabbing, and you've been through it already. You know 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:33.680 the mental toll it takes going forward, That to me 0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:35.880 is what worries me about a setback. Yeah, you know, 0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:39.319 physically I feel great. It takes one wrong move or 0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:41.480 one thing to happen and then physically you're back in 0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:44.560 the can and then mentally it's and I got to 0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.640 do this again. I don't know how many more times 0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:48.879 I can do this. And you know, I mean Joe Burt. 0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.000 We're talking about you know, Joe Burrow, and we say 0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:53.520 it jokingly. So you're gonna win a three time Comeback 0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:56.640 Player of the Year. You don't want to have that distinction. 0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:58.160 You don't want to be up for the award of 0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:01.200 Comeback Player of the Year threty different times because that 0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:04.920 says you're coming back from major injury CATLA trophy. 0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:07.160 You want on a Lobarties, which are three yeld parties 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:08.040 is better than Yeah. 0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.240 The mental side, man, is always what's worried. 0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:12.040 More than sorry, even when you're doing physic because you're 0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:13.680 missing out, you're sitting there watching the world go by. 0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:14.319 I mean that's just me. 0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:17.400 But this guy's, you know, his prime of his career 0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:21.040 right now, and every game is every game means something 0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:22.600 because that's less time you're gonna be able to play 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.000 professional football. Tony Pike and studio is a little bit 0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.160 about that throwing a football. And Joe Burrow now where 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:29.960 it sounds like he's going to play on Sunday. At 0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:33.040 this point, we're just worried about the repercussions. If again, 0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.800 maybe you gets stepped down, something happens it Could it 0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:38.080 be career ending? Could it be debilitating because you if 0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:40.160 the same thing happens again, you're talking about going in 0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:42.279 and repairing the same injury. That's going to add time. 0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:45.040 What happens the off season? Are you throwing away twenty 0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:46.920 twenty six? Those all have to be going through Zach 0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.040 Tittor's mind as supposed to win in right now? How 0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:50.560 much do you think a coach weighs that. 0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:52.600 It has to It has to be weighed upon, and 0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:56.000 I think for the timeline the Bengals are on right now. 0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:59.960 If this was Baltimore, or if this was even Buffalo, 0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:04.120 the conversation changes because, let's face it, with no Jamar 0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:06.360 Chase and no Joe Burrow, they're not beating New England. 0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:09.000 Now you're three and eight, and the math just becomes 0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:13.279 almost impossible. There is a space out there of well, 0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:16.959 Joe Burrow is making fifty five million dollars, there's still 0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:20.680 mathematically in it. You have to trust the training staff. 0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:22.719 That to me, is what it comes down to. If 0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:27.640 the the training staff is meeting daily, sometimes multiple times 0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.200 a day with the coaching staff. If the training staff 0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:33.800 is saying to me, he's good to go, there's no worry, 0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:37.839 there's no risk here, he's cleared, then I'm playing him. 0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:38.760 Now. 0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:42.600 If this conversation is he can play, but he can't 0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:45.440 do this. He can play, but you got to watch 0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.480 out for that, then I'm not running him out there 0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:51.120 because the again, the chance of them running the table 0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:55.160 and getting in is minuscule. The chance. If a trainer 0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:58.239 is telling me, well, of course there's a possibility of 0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:00.520 something here, well, then my mind's it goes to what 0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.960 you just outlined of offseason twenty twenty six. You know, 0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.959 this team already has enough hurdles to overcome going into 0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:10.440 next year. Already they've got to refit, they've got to 0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.960 to address a defense again, they've got to probably address 0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:15.680 a couple questions on the offensive line. If you're worrying 0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:17.960 about quarterback and getting the off season, it's a nightmare. 0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:21.040 But if the training staff, who you trust, is saying 0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:23.520 you're good to go, and that was my thing when 0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:26.560 I played. It took me to hear the training staff 0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:30.279 say you're good, nothing worse can happen. Right, you're good 0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:31.400 to go, then then let's go. 0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:33.720 Okay, So but here's let me play a Douvile's avocat 0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:35.719 because you, as a player, you want to play Tony. 0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:38.680 I'ms right right, You're gonna run through walls and knowing 0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:40.880 a little bit about rehab myself, okay, you want to 0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:42.040 get back to do what you're gonna do. 0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:43.440 At the end of the day. 0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.480 It's an intangible because isn't the training staff and the 0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:49.440 doctors aren't the positions, aren't they Despite of the imaging 0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:51.400 and tests that they do, you still have to take 0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:52.279 the player's word for it. 0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:53.000 Does this hurt. 0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:56.160 Do you as a quarterback and you're like, hey, you 0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:57.920 know what I really want to play? Do you sometimes 0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:00.720 go no, that's fine when maybe you're not being fully 0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:03.239 transparent and would Joe Burrow do that? So at the 0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:05.200 end of the day, you're just relying on that person 0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:07.960 who wants to play, who's competitive, and may go it's 0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:10.239 this a little pain, I don't care. Does that jeopardize us? 0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:12.399 It could, But I think in an injury like this, 0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:17.719 you're doing so many follow up scans and imaging that 0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.000 you can see if everything's healed around it. I think 0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:23.719 pain management is a part of what you have to 0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:25.719 do going in anyway, you know that you have to 0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:29.040 manage pain. But I want to know imaging wise, is 0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:31.400 it one hundred percent healed? Is it eighty percent healed? 0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:34.000 Because if it's eighty percent, now we're rolling the dice yes, right, 0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:37.759 So that to me is that conversation. It's similar to 0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:41.080 a conversation. You know, we got the bombshell yesterday from 0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:43.720 Nick Crawl that you know Ellie Davila Cruz was dealing 0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:46.880 with a slight tear. Okay, well, then someone should have 0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:49.719 been operating in Ellie's best interest because in your point, Yes, 0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:51.879 Ellie's not going to say take me out. He wants 0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:54.560 to play one sixty two. Joe Burrow wants to play 0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:58.200 this week. If if there is a chance and you're 0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:01.359 not one hundred percent, then it is you take away. 0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:06.080 I appreciate you. I appreciate you as a competitor wanting 0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:08.040 to be back out here for your teammates. But it's 0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:10.839 not smart medically, then that conversation has to be had. 0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:13.920 But if it's a pain tolerance thing and imaging wise, 0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:15.600 he's clear to go, then I think you go. 0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:18.040 Is there some culpability with Zach tenn or going, hey, 0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:20.799 maybe he's ninety percent and my job's on the line. 0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:23.239 Absolutely, And I think that's a fair part about this. 0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:26.400 I mean this is which again is why I was 0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:28.600 taking back a little bit. Hearing Zach with Tom today 0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:32.080 doesn't sound like a coach seven, doesn't sound like a 0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:34.759 coach that doesn't have Jamar Chase. Sounds like a coach 0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:37.400 that feels pretty good, which tells me he feels good 0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:40.000 about where his quarterback is. But yes, there is a 0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:42.719 fine line, and it's where you have to put the 0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:47.080 trust in your coach and your training staff to say yes, 0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:50.040 we do have the best interest in our player in mind, 0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:53.440 because I'm not putting Joe in there. If I have 0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:56.400 to game plan around an injury, you can't do that. 0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.120 If you can keep the same game plan, then he plays. 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:01.640 This is further out than Joe Burro playing this weekend 0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:04.359 Tony Pike. But let's say Joe Burrow plays, and let's 0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:05.880 say okay, places he's good for the rest of the 0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:07.680 season and they continue to lose. 0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:10.000 Is that it for Zach to Ed or Duke Tobin? 0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:11.279 Does that? 0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:13.160 Then turn that pressure around and go, well, you got 0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:15.560 QB one back, No more excuses. You still can't win 0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:18.680 football games, you still can't tackle, you can still can't block, 0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:22.520 you still can't make, you get your assignments correct? 0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:23.080 What then? 0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:24.359 Uh? 0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:27.560 Then you're you're You're pushed against the alternate window. I 0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:29.600 always thought this was a different conversation if this team 0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:33.040 is mathematically eliminated, And if it is, then is there 0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:35.000 harm in Joe Burrow playing two more times and then 0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:36.520 shutting him down for the rest of the year, because 0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:39.239 ultimately what he needs is more reps. But again, I 0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:42.279 go back, I go back to the training staff, and 0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:44.920 I was I was lucky with my staff at UC 0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:51.240 that those guys I trusted Bob Manjeen, I trusted Angelo 0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:53.880 Colisimo because at the end of the day, I knew 0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:56.720 that they wanted to win, but the core of everything 0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:58.919 they were about was having my best interest in mind. 0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:01.880 And that's what I continue to go back to With 0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:05.560 Joe Burrow, I don't think that a trainer would say, 0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:09.440 go practice if there was any shot of this not 0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:13.240 being okay. If it's the divisional playoffs, if you're leading 0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:15.400 in or to must win to get into the playoffs, 0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:17.960 then maybe you roll the dice a little bit, okay. 0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:23.160 But the experiences I've had, I fully trust that that 0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:26.640 a trainer and trainers I have would would would not 0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:30.279 put your best interest to to harm just to get 0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:30.960 you back out at you. 0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:33.279 All right, he's Tony Pike and right now you're going 0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:35.280 he sounds like he's going to play football on Sunday. 0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:36.320 That would be Joe Burrow. 0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:38.879 Uh, that would be incredible considering what he's been through 0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:41.960 in such a short period of time. And uh, some 0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:44.240 time time, what time tomorrow you think they make the announcement. 0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:49.640 Uh, I believe they will practice. It's a home game, 0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:52.560 so they'll practice probably early afternoon, and then once practice 0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:54.560 wraps up, you'll get that report from Zach se. 0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:56.400 Time in the afternoon. We expect to hear that Joe 0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:57.640 Burrow would play on Sunday. 0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:01.239 Yeah, you would. You would at least here he's going 0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:03.239 to be active, and I think that to me is 0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:07.360 a foregone conclusion. You know, you have the full participant 0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:10.719 and you have limited doubtful. You know, so much is 0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:12.640 made about Wednesday and Thursday. 0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:15.400 When the news about releasing Jake Browning happened first, you 0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:18.360 would think, so it's because of a Browning. 0:52:18.680 --> 0:52:21.080 Joe, You're about forty percent, but we're gonna need you 0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:23.759 to take every team rep this week while Flo's not 0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:24.120 in there. 0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:25.680 Yeah, that would worry me. 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:29.000 Tony Pike and Austin Elmore today at noon on ESPN 0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:31.480 fifteen thirty covering this up and down. Appreciate your brother. 0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:33.239 Thanks again, the Hall of Famer. Tony Pike on seven 0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:40.440 hundred W Scott Sloan Show, seven hundred WLW. Here we go, 0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:45.120 So Thursday mornings, you're bringing our our doctor friend here, 0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:48.600 the er doctor. Uh he is a doctor, Sanja SHAEFERCERMANI 0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:51.719 he is we talk about healtha talk food we talk fitness. Uh, 0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:54.040 and he is right now crushing an energy drink because 0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:55.240 he just got off a shift. 0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:59.480 So hey, don't judge me, don't judge me, but yes, like, oh, 0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:00.640 that's I. 0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:03.520 Was just talking to someone yesterday who is in the 0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:05.879 medical field and drinks eight monsters a. 0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:09.319 Day and would not anyway. Cold turkey. That's he's saying, 0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:10.600 cold turkey. 0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:11.400 How's he feeling? 0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:13.279 He says, fine, Like, yeah, I was. I was a 0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:16.359 no headache, no no shakes. You go through the DTS what, Nope, 0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:16.799 I'm good. 0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:19.120 Just have to take a one week nap. Yeah, yeah, 0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:20.080 I guess fine. 0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:20.400 I don't know. 0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:21.839 I don't know how you do that at all. So 0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:23.520 before you get in this, I'm gonna put you on 0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:25.040 the spot. Here'm gonna con audible because we're going to 0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:27.879 talk about how not to die in Thanksgiving, the Joe 0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:29.800 Burrow thing with the turf toe and you knowing a 0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:31.680 little bit about these things and injuries, and like, is 0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:33.440 it surprise to you he can come back this fast? 0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:34.440 Uh? 0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:38.320 It it is? But I also have my concerns about, 0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:41.440 you know, how well he's going to bounce back. It always, 0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:44.359 you know, the feat We we underestimate how much. We 0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:46.279 need them, even the smallest little things, as we all 0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:49.680 learned through this turf so thing. And so was I 0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:52.279 a little surprised. Yes, am I looking forward to seeing 0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:53.279 him back, Yes. 0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:55.319 Do I do. 0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:57.799 I hope the best for him, yes, but we'll see 0:53:57.800 --> 0:53:59.800 how you know, I'm definitely not an orthopic surgeon. I 0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:02.560 see these things on the front end. But yeah, foot 0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:03.319 injuries are tough. 0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:03.560 Man. 0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:05.560 I had an ankle injury. I know you had a 0:54:05.640 --> 0:54:08.120 leg injury, and yep, they take they take a while, 0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:10.960 so he won't be one hundred percent, but hopefully he's 0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:12.040 got enough and it'll hold up. 0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:13.520 Yeah, and you don't think of that too, like I've 0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.839 heard if you, for example, if you have your your 0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:20.200 pinky toe, if that, if you lose that, it's difficult 0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:22.120 to walk right. That's just a little you're like, there's 0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:22.960 no way, but it's true. 0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:26.200 Yeah, you figure you don't need that. Stupid at the end, 0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:28.520 but it's it's more important than we think. And it's 0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:31.400 just it's you know, our balance and everything, just sensation 0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:33.759 and knowing where we are. It's all very important in 0:54:33.840 --> 0:54:36.040 ways we don't even recognize until, of course it's gone. 0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:37.960 If you had to choose one to lose. Pinky toe, 0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:40.879 pinky finger, pinky toe for sure, Oh to toe. 0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:43.480 Okay, my feet are already messed up, like you might 0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:45.560 as well just go further. I need these little these 0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:46.720 little piggies on my hands. 0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:49.360 Fantastic, fantastic, all right, he's got his monster and I 0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:51.160 just trip by the way yesterday and studio. I had 0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:53.319 our friends from Dorothy Lane Market and Mason and they 0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:56.120 brought a bunch of food. And I'm a pecan pie guy. 0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:58.080 You're a peacan by I'm telling you, the best peacan 0:54:58.120 --> 0:54:59.680 pie I've ever had Dorothy Lean Market. 0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:00.480 Check it. 0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:01.040 I got to do it. 0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:03.160 I've only been once to the new location, but I 0:55:03.520 --> 0:55:03.959 have to go. 0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:05.600 Back then by like I live down there with and 0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:07.560 it's like every time I go by, there's no parking spots. 0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:10.000 So I'll come back later and then there's again no 0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:13.360 parking spots. Just why because everything's good there. Yeah, so 0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:16.279 it's phenomenal. Just don't make pecan pie yourself. That was 0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:16.880 my mistake. 0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:19.759 Knowing what is inside of pecan pie ruined it for 0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:21.319 the rest of my life. But I just choose to 0:55:21.320 --> 0:55:21.719 ignore it. 0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:23.759 The reason I love having sign Jaane is because he's 0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:25.960 a doctor, but you know he's we talk about fitness 0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:27.480 and health and exercise and all these things. What it 0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:31.080 all comes together. And normally the reason I love you 0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:34.480 is because you're not Tom Brady. Do you like if 0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:37.839 you eat carbohydrates, you're drinking energy drinks, you have pecan pie, 0:55:37.960 --> 0:55:39.600 you you don't just eat avocados? 0:55:39.800 --> 0:55:40.000 Yeah? 0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:43.320 Oh no, It's all about balance and I usually tip 0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:44.720 the wrong way with balance. 0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:46.120 But you know that's why we go to the gym, 0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:49.680 right right? All right? Yeah, a little restraint. Do you 0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:50.880 lose your mind on Thanksgiving? 0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:53.319 Uh? Lose my mind? 0:55:53.360 --> 0:55:55.760 How well do you eat yourself in a food coma? 0:55:55.920 --> 0:55:58.640 Ah? It is my favorite haul. I have to do it. 0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:02.080 And it's it's not like turkey is just turkey is there, 0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:05.319 but it's like the vehicle to have the excuse to 0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:08.000 eat all the sides. And so yeah, I eat myself 0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:12.040 usually kind of silly, but it's it's stuffing for me 0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:15.280 like that is my is. My one weakness is well dressing. 0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:17.440 Now I've learned the difference between the two. 0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:20.359 It's dressing. Yeah, dressing, that's a gravy on that. 0:56:20.440 --> 0:56:20.640 Yeah. 0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:22.960 Yeah, the starches are I try to avoid carb but 0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:26.280 I mean carbs are really the cornerstone you talk about Trinky, 0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:29.440 You're right. Carbohydrates is what drive Thanksgiving. It exactly, that's 0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:31.480 what we're there. So why do we why do we 0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:33.200 pass out? Because you hear that, Well, let's trip to 0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:34.960 fan in the in the Turkey it makes you sleepy. 0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:36.480 But it's it's the carbs, isn't it. 0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:38.239 It is the carbs. So yeah, that's a it's a 0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:41.040 common misconception. We all blame the trip to fan, which 0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:44.000 has a part, but actually, you know, chicken and beef 0:56:44.000 --> 0:56:46.640 has as much trip to fan as Turkey does. So, uh, 0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:48.440 trip to Fan gets a bad rap as far as 0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:51.520 Thanksgiving goes. But what happens is we have these big 0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:56.960 meals and the insulin spikes because we eat so much carb. Uh, 0:56:57.000 --> 0:56:59.120 and then the trip to Fan has a chance then 0:56:59.200 --> 0:57:02.359 to work on our brain. So yes, there's a place there. 0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:04.759 But it's not that Turkey's bringing it. It's the it's 0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:07.160 the size that are bringing it. Uh, with the with 0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:09.239 all the carbs, and then your insulin allows. 0:57:08.960 --> 0:57:10.960 Everything to gohare and you had a couple of slices 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.000 of pecan pie on top of that, and it's over. 0:57:12.920 --> 0:57:15.440 Game, all done. Yes see on Saturday. 0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:17.720 Can you do you see people in the er that 0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:19.680 eat so much they show up? And what does that 0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:22.080 look like? Can you do the food coma and you 0:57:22.080 --> 0:57:23.440 actually have to be transported? 0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:27.400 Yes, very much so, and you know you so there's 0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:30.080 a there's a general lull through the day as far 0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:33.040 as Thanksgiving goes. I think the stats are like twenty 0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:36.960 five percent less patients on Thanksgiving Day. But you know, 0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:39.800 when the meals are ending, it's it's six or seven o'clock, 0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:41.720 and you'll see the spike of people that come in, 0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:45.040 and it's usually with either chest pain or like really 0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:47.520 bad bloating. And most of the time, most of the 0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:50.080 time it's just because they over ate, right, But I 0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:52.920 you know, I sympathize with that man, like I've done 0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:56.200 it to myself for sure, Okay, And so yeah, some 0:57:56.200 --> 0:57:59.439 sometimes patients do come in purely because they eat too much, 0:57:59.480 --> 0:58:00.520 and I love them for it. 0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:03.040 Can you eat yourself into an unstable heart rhythm? 0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:03.680 Uh? 0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:08.560 So yes, So you could eat yourself to a point 0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:11.240 where you've stressed your body so much that it can 0:58:11.440 --> 0:58:13.280 cause a mind or heart attack and then cause and 0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:17.160 arrhythmia from that. So yes, And if you have you know, 0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:21.320 six ten ten monster energy drinks while having your turkey, 0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:23.640 you can also go into an unstable heart rhythm. But 0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:27.880 the interesting part is that the rate of heart attacks 0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:32.160 actually goes up on Thanksgiving Day, which is interesting because 0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:35.080 it's family drive you crazy. It is a big part 0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:37.600 of its Sorry mom, if you're listening, but like, yeah, 0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:40.880 family stress us up right right, which increases our cortisol, 0:58:40.880 --> 0:58:43.760 which increases all the other things and can cause spasm 0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:45.840 of the arteries to the heart and you know, lead 0:58:45.840 --> 0:58:48.800 to heart attacks sometimes. So it's this, it's the stress 0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:52.120 for one. It's also the massive you know meal that 0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:55.040 we have, which also strains our body. There's several things 0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:58.280 that can go into increase in heart attacks. But yes, 0:58:58.360 --> 0:58:59.960 family and stress is part of it. 0:59:00.160 --> 0:59:02.040 At alcohol, you got all sorts of problems in there. 0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:04.240 And is that typically what you see presenting the hor 0:59:04.360 --> 0:59:05.320 Thanksgiving day after? 0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:08.000 It's going to be art related issues initially. 0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:13.000 Yeah, So Thursday sometimes for friday's your your Black Friday 0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:16.439 incidents and those can vary how they look. 0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:19.840 But related injured or shopping related injuries. 0:59:20.200 --> 0:59:25.680 Yes, Okay, so you're gonna see a lot of things 0:59:25.680 --> 0:59:28.520 from Black Friday, but usually so Thursday you're going to 0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:32.120 see your early afternoon wave of your injuries. So like 0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:34.400 cooking injuries because a lot of people are getting into 0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:36.640 the kitchen that usually aren't there or trying to cook 0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:43.680 for four thousand people, and so they're less careful. Burns lacerations, yes, again, 0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:48.680 so burns we see more from oil frying, so be careful. 0:59:49.400 --> 0:59:52.400 I'd advise you probably not to oil frier. Turkey problem 0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:56.520 being that water hitting the oil creates big explosions sometimes, 0:59:56.680 --> 0:59:58.800 so you want your turkey to be really dry and 0:59:58.800 --> 1:00:01.960 free of ice, so completely thought and dry before putting 1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:02.360 on the oil. 1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:03.920 But overall, how do you make. 1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:08.120 Your turkey oven? Yeah, I just school may get a 1:00:08.120 --> 1:00:09.439 small one smoke at time to time. 1:00:09.480 --> 1:00:12.400 But yeah, yeah, the oil thing, I had it once 1:00:12.480 --> 1:00:14.840 and I was like, I mean, I guess the idea 1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:16.680 is cool, but it just doesn't taste any day. 1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:18.240 I because you know, if you want to do it 1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:19.920 and get a bunch of buddies together and then go 1:00:19.960 --> 1:00:22.280 in on the oil and the cooking. So because it's 1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:24.320 such a pain in the ass to just do it, 1:00:24.360 --> 1:00:26.439 and it takes like forty five minutes, you know it's done, 1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:27.920 but you got all oil left over and stuff. 1:00:27.920 --> 1:00:30.000 You know what, do you do it right? Make a 1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:32.760 couple of two three turkeys and you're good, all. 1:00:32.720 --> 1:00:34.840 Right, So there's that element too, and I think you 1:00:34.840 --> 1:00:37.919 know again it's Sanjay cherv Primani and studio this morning 1:00:37.960 --> 1:00:41.440 are our eur physician and health guy talking about how 1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:43.320 not to die in Thanksgiving, which is very important. 1:00:44.000 --> 1:00:45.760 Choke. You can see a lot of choking in the hour. 1:00:45.800 --> 1:00:48.960 Is it over by the time, Yeah, not too much, 1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:51.160 I think in your throat something. 1:00:51.880 --> 1:00:54.120 I mean, Fortunately, the turkey bones are pretty big, so 1:00:54.160 --> 1:00:56.880 we don't see too much of that. We do see again, Uh, 1:00:57.120 --> 1:01:01.400 knife injuries in the kitchen, that's a big thing on 1:01:01.560 --> 1:01:06.080 Thanksgiving Day. Mandolin slicers are my enemy because you can 1:01:06.120 --> 1:01:07.960 imagine with those things if you don't know what they are, 1:01:07.960 --> 1:01:11.080 they're multiple blades in a row, so they just cause 1:01:11.160 --> 1:01:13.919 these weird patterns of injury where you can't really bring 1:01:13.960 --> 1:01:16.520 the wound back together, so you're it's line after line 1:01:16.640 --> 1:01:19.360 or the fingertip just goes. So be careful with your mandolins, 1:01:19.400 --> 1:01:22.440 keep your knife sharp, you ale minimize. 1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:23.960 I've got one use al holder. Don't try to get 1:01:23.960 --> 1:01:24.760 all that potato. 1:01:24.920 --> 1:01:27.280 So yeah, we see potatoes stream all the time. 1:01:27.320 --> 1:01:29.160 It's always the potato because you glance off of it 1:01:29.200 --> 1:01:31.800 with your dull blades, So keep them, keep them sharp 1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:32.800 through it. 1:01:32.840 --> 1:01:37.640 One percent, one hundred percent. What about food poisoning. 1:01:38.480 --> 1:01:42.280 Big big, So we usually see the food poison income 1:01:42.440 --> 1:01:45.000 later on, at least, you know, a day or two afterwards. 1:01:45.000 --> 1:01:48.120 But it's not impossible. So that's a double negative. It's 1:01:48.160 --> 1:01:50.280 it's possible to get food poison on the day of. 1:01:50.360 --> 1:01:52.080 So you want to make sure you're cooking your turkey. 1:01:52.160 --> 1:01:54.720 That's going to be your biggest culprit. Cook it well. 1:01:54.800 --> 1:01:56.800 You want it to get a one hundred and sixty 1:01:56.800 --> 1:01:59.959 five degrees internally, so check that thing because there there's 1:02:00.000 --> 1:02:02.320 so variable because your birds so big. So if you're 1:02:02.320 --> 1:02:05.320 making a turkey, you know, get it to one sixty five. 1:02:05.360 --> 1:02:07.760 But then you know, you leave that bird out for 1:02:07.800 --> 1:02:10.640 a couple hours and bacteria starts growing inside of it too, 1:02:10.760 --> 1:02:13.000 So be careful even just letting it sit out on 1:02:13.040 --> 1:02:14.720 the counter for a couple hours and then going in 1:02:14.800 --> 1:02:17.200 for a little bit more. Yes, try to warm that 1:02:17.320 --> 1:02:19.680 up before you eat it again, because once you get 1:02:19.720 --> 1:02:21.800 down to like one hundred and forty degrees, that bacteria 1:02:21.800 --> 1:02:24.760 starts growing and gotcha gotcha, Okay, good, then that's important. 1:02:25.080 --> 1:02:27.480 Sides, you have to worry about that as much, less. 1:02:27.200 --> 1:02:30.400 So unless there's meats in them or creams. So dairy 1:02:30.440 --> 1:02:32.800 stuff will carry stuff, and that's that's going to be 1:02:32.800 --> 1:02:34.640 the food poisoning that hits you fast, so you'll know 1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:38.200 if you have that. But usually the food poisoning from 1:02:38.400 --> 1:02:39.840 you know, turkey and stuff, that's going to take a 1:02:39.840 --> 1:02:42.240 while to hate you. And so we usually see a 1:02:42.280 --> 1:02:46.000 bump over the weekend Saturday, Sunday, Monday of the food poisoning, 1:02:46.000 --> 1:02:50.280 both from delayed presentations, from eating the food on that day, 1:02:50.400 --> 1:02:53.760 or eating leftovers and not warming them up, or just 1:02:53.880 --> 1:02:54.760 leftovers gone bad. 1:02:54.800 --> 1:02:58.520 How long can that shellfish be out? The shrimp? The shrimp. 1:03:00.640 --> 1:03:04.000 It as long as there was refrigerated. Well, I would 1:03:04.000 --> 1:03:06.160 say probably, you know, a couple hours is what you're 1:03:06.200 --> 1:03:06.560 looking at. 1:03:06.560 --> 1:03:08.160 Okay, all right, let's as you have to have an 1:03:08.160 --> 1:03:11.280 ice usually that goes pretty fast. But all right, do 1:03:11.320 --> 1:03:12.800 I know it's food poisoning not something else? 1:03:13.240 --> 1:03:13.479 Oh? 1:03:14.120 --> 1:03:14.680 Good question. 1:03:15.120 --> 1:03:17.440 It's it's oftentimes hard for us to know too. But 1:03:17.600 --> 1:03:20.000 usually food poisoning is going to have stuff coming up, 1:03:20.040 --> 1:03:23.240 both up and down. It may start with vomiting, but 1:03:23.280 --> 1:03:25.400 then you get it from the from the rear as well, 1:03:25.480 --> 1:03:28.040 so oftentimes that'll be it. But things to look out 1:03:28.080 --> 1:03:32.560 for would be stuff like fever, some abdominal pain, blood 1:03:32.560 --> 1:03:36.080 in your poop, and just overall not feeling good. But 1:03:36.160 --> 1:03:38.320 even food poisoning alone can throw us for a loop. 1:03:38.360 --> 1:03:40.440 So if you're feeling crappy and you think this is 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:43.040 just food poisoning, but if you're still feeling bad, a 1:03:43.080 --> 1:03:45.439 lot of fluid. Little fluid can do a lot of good, 1:03:45.560 --> 1:03:48.440 So it's always worth it if you're feeling poorly to 1:03:48.520 --> 1:03:49.200 get checked out. 1:03:49.280 --> 1:03:51.360 Okay, but I mean you imagine it home, if you've 1:03:51.400 --> 1:03:53.320 realized that it's probably food poisoning because everyone else is 1:03:53.640 --> 1:03:55.160 coming down with it, it's like all you could do 1:03:55.200 --> 1:03:56.720 is hydrate and rest and. 1:03:57.160 --> 1:03:59.880 Point at the person who made that dish because they clearly. 1:04:00.160 --> 1:04:02.720 They killed you. Yeah this point too, so well with 1:04:02.760 --> 1:04:04.360 all the dishes. You don't know who is a culprit 1:04:04.400 --> 1:04:06.880 at that point, but it's true. Typically just blame the turkey. 1:04:07.280 --> 1:04:08.080 I always blame that. 1:04:08.120 --> 1:04:10.160 I blame that. It's always a chef's fault. So anyway, 1:04:10.600 --> 1:04:13.480 he is a Sonja Schevcrimani. He is a er physician. 1:04:13.600 --> 1:04:15.840 Also he's our fitness guy here and a health guy 1:04:15.840 --> 1:04:18.680 in the Scott Slane Show on seven hundred WLW Everything 1:04:18.720 --> 1:04:20.600 you need to know about Thanksgiving and how not to 1:04:20.680 --> 1:04:22.560 kill yourself. We kind of did this, I know with 1:04:22.640 --> 1:04:24.760 Halloween too, is like how do I prevent going to 1:04:24.800 --> 1:04:28.000 the er and kids running and you know, stuff like that. 1:04:28.040 --> 1:04:30.440 But this one's a little more complex because everyone's getting together. 1:04:30.760 --> 1:04:33.840 It's fascinating the stress element along with Thanksgiving, the food 1:04:33.840 --> 1:04:36.000 and the stress together. You see a lot of people 1:04:36.040 --> 1:04:39.280 with heart arrhythmia, sometimes heart attacks. 1:04:39.320 --> 1:04:41.360 Even we see the heart stuff and now you know, 1:04:41.440 --> 1:04:43.360 I don't know if the viruses have figured it out, 1:04:44.200 --> 1:04:46.800 but they're ramping up just in time for families to 1:04:46.840 --> 1:04:50.439 be close together in a tight environment. So I worked 1:04:50.480 --> 1:04:53.919 a shift yesterday for only seven hours and I saw 1:04:54.080 --> 1:04:56.959 at least fifteen people with like head colds. So it's 1:04:57.000 --> 1:05:00.320 coming around, and you know, it was everything. Were starting 1:05:00.320 --> 1:05:02.320 to see flu yet started to see a little bit 1:05:02.320 --> 1:05:05.200 of flu. Actually seeing a bigger spike in COVID recently. 1:05:05.240 --> 1:05:08.600 No one terribly sick sick from it, but certainly not 1:05:08.680 --> 1:05:11.480 feeling great. Uh So we're seeing just a kind of 1:05:11.480 --> 1:05:13.000 smattering of everything is COVID. 1:05:13.040 --> 1:05:14.920 Now that we're five years past this, are we say, 1:05:15.000 --> 1:05:17.959 is it's starting to be less severe, like less life 1:05:17.960 --> 1:05:19.240 threatening overall. 1:05:19.360 --> 1:05:21.920 Yes, I mean that first couple of years we were 1:05:21.960 --> 1:05:24.720 expecting patients not to make it a lot of the time. 1:05:25.480 --> 1:05:28.240 We're still seeing that on occasion, but yes, it's it's 1:05:28.280 --> 1:05:31.400 become milder as far as its presentation overall. But you know, 1:05:31.480 --> 1:05:34.080 if you're elderly, if you're you know, if your health 1:05:34.320 --> 1:05:37.360 immune system isn't very good, there's a good chance that 1:05:37.400 --> 1:05:39.479 it is gonna it could cause some serious problem. 1:05:39.560 --> 1:05:41.400 Yeah, and we're seeing RSV now too at the end 1:05:41.400 --> 1:05:43.480 of the health department. I'll probably have them on next week, 1:05:43.480 --> 1:05:44.720 could talk about this. That's a big one. 1:05:44.840 --> 1:05:45.040 Yeah. 1:05:45.160 --> 1:05:50.200 RSV is is big, especially young and old, especially patients 1:05:50.240 --> 1:05:53.720 with lung disease too. It can really cause asthma to 1:05:53.720 --> 1:05:56.560 be severe and cause you know, I saw a couple 1:05:56.560 --> 1:06:00.520 of cases last year of RSV causing respiratory failures. So yeah, 1:06:00.560 --> 1:06:02.280 it's another one to watch out for. Just you know, 1:06:02.320 --> 1:06:05.520 when it comes to food prep and being around your family, 1:06:05.600 --> 1:06:08.960 just make sure you're washing your hands often and being careful. 1:06:09.040 --> 1:06:10.720 All right, Sonja, good to see you man. Have a 1:06:10.760 --> 1:06:14.200 great Thanksgiving. Always appreciate coming on Thursdays the best. Enjoy 1:06:14.240 --> 1:06:16.080 about you too. I got a time out in and 1:06:16.240 --> 1:06:17.960 more to follow here at eleven oh six on the 1:06:17.960 --> 1:06:20.520 show on seven hundred ww He is a local polster, 1:06:20.640 --> 1:06:24.000 Kevin Burton. You hear about this is new numbers coming out, 1:06:24.040 --> 1:06:25.840 and again it's just some new numbers. But if you 1:06:25.840 --> 1:06:27.760 took it the aggregate, looked at the average here, it's 1:06:27.760 --> 1:06:31.200 pretty frightening if you're a Republican. Just how wonderwater the 1:06:31.240 --> 1:06:33.840 party is, particularly the president right now? Can you reverse 1:06:33.880 --> 1:06:36.480 course before midterms? That's the big question. We'll see what's 1:06:36.520 --> 1:06:38.880 inside the numbers. With Kevin just ahead on the Home 1:06:38.920 --> 1:06:41.840 of the Best Bengals coverage, will Joe Burrow play It's 1:06:41.880 --> 1:06:45.080 looking likely more likely than not at this point. We'll 1:06:45.080 --> 1:06:46.840 continue to follow that for you this morning on the 1:06:46.840 --> 1:06:49.840 Home of the Best Bengals Coverage seven hundred WWT Cincinnati. 1:06:50.080 --> 1:06:53.680 Don't want to be in a Mafican idiot, Scott flowing 1:06:53.760 --> 1:06:55.800 back on seven hundred w WELW. 1:06:56.000 --> 1:06:59.240 The last time Democrats on numbers as good was twenty seventeen, 1:06:59.280 --> 1:07:02.560 So what eight years ago go before they will up 1:07:02.600 --> 1:07:05.200 the Republicans in the twenty eighteen midterm got like what 1:07:05.240 --> 1:07:08.560 forty forty one seats in the House. And this is 1:07:08.600 --> 1:07:11.240 coming off news and latest polling here with President Trump 1:07:11.400 --> 1:07:14.720 becoming increasingly popular, unpipolar, I should say, his approval rating 1:07:14.760 --> 1:07:18.480 is dipping into the thirties right now. And you know, 1:07:18.520 --> 1:07:20.120 you look at the Democrats and then maybe the wind 1:07:20.120 --> 1:07:22.120 in their sail right now, but is it sustainable? And 1:07:22.160 --> 1:07:23.920 if you're a Republican too, how do you look at 1:07:23.920 --> 1:07:26.920 this and go, maybe this guy isn't falling, But at 1:07:26.920 --> 1:07:28.960 the same time, how do you reverse course before the 1:07:28.960 --> 1:07:31.600 midterms next year? On that's Kevin Burtney's a pollster with 1:07:31.680 --> 1:07:36.000 Crosstown Consulting right in northern Kentucky. His candidates went six 1:07:36.040 --> 1:07:39.040 for six on election Day Tuesday. Kevin, welcome back. 1:07:38.920 --> 1:07:42.160 Hause, life pretty good, Scott, thanks for having me. 1:07:42.360 --> 1:07:45.400 Yeah, so the pulling in again, it's one poll, but 1:07:45.440 --> 1:07:47.520 I'm looking at I tend to look at the aggregate 1:07:47.560 --> 1:07:50.040 polling and come up with an average of the averages 1:07:50.400 --> 1:07:52.960 fifty five percent of voters at elect a Democratic candidate 1:07:53.080 --> 1:07:54.960 right now compared to forty one percent it out for 1:07:54.960 --> 1:07:58.000 Republican And that's a generic ballot. Obviously, we'll get into 1:07:58.040 --> 1:08:00.400 why that's important or not important a second, but fourteen 1:08:00.440 --> 1:08:04.480 point lead right now. And we saw this last since 1:08:04.640 --> 1:08:08.680 November twenty seventeen in the mid term explosion by Democrats 1:08:08.680 --> 1:08:10.480 at this point. And this is despite the fact that 1:08:10.840 --> 1:08:14.000 Chuck Schumer, Senate minority leader, just shut the government down, 1:08:14.040 --> 1:08:17.360 a backfire on him terribly. But at the same time, 1:08:17.439 --> 1:08:22.000 even with that, they're moving forward here. Kevin Trump's job 1:08:22.040 --> 1:08:25.960 approval rating is I think twelve points underwater, twelve to 1:08:26.000 --> 1:08:28.120 fourteen depending on the poll of the job six and 1:08:28.160 --> 1:08:31.920 ten believe America is on the wrong track. Is that 1:08:32.240 --> 1:08:33.639 overcomeable in the next year? 1:08:35.160 --> 1:08:38.240 I mean Trump, I think we need to look that 1:08:38.360 --> 1:08:42.360 Trump's only won two elections when there were women on 1:08:42.400 --> 1:08:45.840 the ballot. Every other time he has lost. You know, 1:08:45.920 --> 1:08:49.840 Trump had the benefit of, frankly, being the backup quarterback. 1:08:49.280 --> 1:08:50.840 Where you're the most popular. 1:08:50.479 --> 1:08:53.559 Person in town, and when they when you get thrust 1:08:53.600 --> 1:08:57.400 it in into the spot, people realized why you were 1:08:57.439 --> 1:09:02.360 the backup. He's bleeding numbers. 1:09:02.520 --> 1:09:04.400 You're talking, I. 1:09:04.439 --> 1:09:08.679 Got it exactly, like yeah in Perio if that sounds great, 1:09:08.680 --> 1:09:12.599 And then you're like, oh, well, that's why he is 1:09:12.840 --> 1:09:16.000 bleeding support and independence. 1:09:17.520 --> 1:09:18.040 Right now? 1:09:18.360 --> 1:09:22.639 Independents are breaking sixty one of them, twenty eight percent 1:09:22.680 --> 1:09:25.479 of Republicans. And we've talked about this before. Those are 1:09:25.520 --> 1:09:28.719 the people who decide the election. And then going back 1:09:28.840 --> 1:09:33.120 a year ago, Harrison only won the Hispanic vote by 1:09:33.320 --> 1:09:37.880 plus two. Donald Trump has dropped forty four points in 1:09:37.960 --> 1:09:40.120 the last year in the Hispanic community. 1:09:42.280 --> 1:09:43.320 Now, listen, we don't. 1:09:43.160 --> 1:09:45.679 Know how they're going to redraw all of these house 1:09:45.760 --> 1:09:50.240 districts because both sides are being idiot, So we don't 1:09:50.240 --> 1:09:52.720 know the total numbers that's going to get lost. But 1:09:53.720 --> 1:09:57.280 Americans see that prices aren't going down, period, and it's 1:09:57.320 --> 1:09:59.599 the economy. 1:09:59.680 --> 1:10:03.439 Yeah, and it's it's always the economy, stupid, right, How 1:10:03.479 --> 1:10:04.200 accurate is that? 1:10:04.240 --> 1:10:04.479 Though? 1:10:04.800 --> 1:10:07.479 You know I talked about generic bill to generic ball let, 1:10:07.479 --> 1:10:10.640 they're up fourteen points, okay, but versus actual outcomes, how 1:10:10.680 --> 1:10:14.200 predictive is plus fourteen plus twelve whatever? It is twelve 1:10:14.240 --> 1:10:16.280 months out from the twenty twenty six midterms. 1:10:16.720 --> 1:10:18.920 So it's always important to remember when you see the 1:10:18.960 --> 1:10:23.440 generic ballot, just how the maps are and everything Democrats 1:10:23.439 --> 1:10:27.120 has to be up about plus that then before it 1:10:27.200 --> 1:10:31.439 really makes a difference. So that's where you should always 1:10:31.520 --> 1:10:35.840 look at. You know, there's still a year away. Like, 1:10:37.680 --> 1:10:42.000 you know, if he passes out two thousand dollars checks, 1:10:42.439 --> 1:10:44.680 does that shrink it? Probably yes. 1:10:46.280 --> 1:10:47.320 But we're also going. 1:10:47.200 --> 1:10:50.000 To get into the holiday season, so I predict that 1:10:50.240 --> 1:10:53.320 his numbers are going to drop a little bit even 1:10:53.360 --> 1:10:55.479 more because people are going to be trying to pay 1:10:55.520 --> 1:10:57.520 for you know, Christmas, Thanksgiving. 1:10:57.640 --> 1:10:57.880 Yep. 1:10:58.880 --> 1:11:01.800 Is that actually really quite Because in his first term, 1:11:02.240 --> 1:11:04.880 people loved what he did in the economy, hated what 1:11:04.920 --> 1:11:08.240 he did in foreign affairs. It's the exact opposite this time, 1:11:08.600 --> 1:11:09.320 right right. 1:11:10.120 --> 1:11:12.680 And I think Marjorie Taylor Green with his you know, 1:11:12.720 --> 1:11:15.240 the breakup between mom and dad, so to speak, and 1:11:15.479 --> 1:11:17.120 I think she scored some really good points with us 1:11:17.120 --> 1:11:20.400 and saying, listen, you know you're entertaining Saudi's and the 1:11:20.400 --> 1:11:22.720 White House, and you're on these trips abroad, and what 1:11:22.800 --> 1:11:25.080 about the economy. It's supposed to you know, make America 1:11:25.120 --> 1:11:27.360 great again and focus only on America, and you're not 1:11:27.400 --> 1:11:31.439 doing that. So even with core Trump supporters, that's starting 1:11:31.439 --> 1:11:33.960 to fall out, that's eating away and talking about this 1:11:34.040 --> 1:11:35.240 huge gap ortoe with a polling. 1:11:37.680 --> 1:11:42.519 You know, people see that everyone is suffering, and you know, 1:11:42.600 --> 1:11:47.080 I kind of did this yesterday. How many years do 1:11:47.120 --> 1:11:49.880 you think Steph Curry would have to play to match 1:11:50.640 --> 1:11:53.120 how much Elon Musk is worth. 1:11:54.840 --> 1:11:59.679 That's a really interesting question. Three hundred thousand years, eight 1:12:00.600 --> 1:12:02.720 and two hundred years, eight thousand years. 1:12:02.760 --> 1:12:07.400 I was close, so always put that into his perspective, 1:12:07.640 --> 1:12:10.120 that that's how rich. And you know, I think people 1:12:10.160 --> 1:12:13.520 are finally getting to the point like, look and like billionaires, 1:12:13.600 --> 1:12:17.000 that's fine, but now we're talking about trillionaires and we 1:12:17.120 --> 1:12:20.800 have people who can't afford bills and everything. At a 1:12:20.840 --> 1:12:23.000 certain point we need to turn around and look, right, 1:12:24.960 --> 1:12:26.840 you know, we're the greatest country in the world, and 1:12:26.920 --> 1:12:31.160 we have so many people living paycheck to headshacks. It's 1:12:31.200 --> 1:12:35.639 a systematic breakdown on all fronts. And you know we're 1:12:35.640 --> 1:12:39.480 giving forty billion dollars Argentina. 1:12:39.760 --> 1:12:41.720 Was that right, right? And I think it was core. 1:12:41.760 --> 1:12:43.400 Of course, A port is like looking at that, going, well, 1:12:43.439 --> 1:12:45.120 what about what about me? What about you know, all 1:12:45.120 --> 1:12:46.839 these things are going to do for me? And I see, 1:12:47.240 --> 1:12:49.400 you know, the tariffs and stuff, it's really not coming home. 1:12:49.439 --> 1:12:52.439 I mean, now we're subsidizing farmers, which is you know 1:12:52.479 --> 1:12:54.880 what we're we just shut the government down over which 1:12:54.920 --> 1:12:55.639 was more subsidy. 1:12:55.680 --> 1:12:58.200 I guess it's you know, if the subsidies. 1:12:57.680 --> 1:12:59.839 For someone on your team, it's not a subsidy somehow, 1:13:00.280 --> 1:13:05.280 Kevin Burton, the thirty three point Democratic advantage independent voters 1:13:05.479 --> 1:13:07.559 is not a gap, it's a chasm. I mean, it's 1:13:08.000 --> 1:13:11.400 a canyon. It's bottom of the Grand Canyon. Walk us through. 1:13:11.520 --> 1:13:14.599 What would cause independence to break this heart against the party. 1:13:14.640 --> 1:13:16.680 You mentioned the economy, but there's got to be more 1:13:16.680 --> 1:13:18.879 to it than that exactly. 1:13:18.920 --> 1:13:22.800 And then the whole immigration stance, you know, it turned 1:13:22.840 --> 1:13:27.040 out as a very favorable thing for Trump. I don't 1:13:27.080 --> 1:13:29.680 know any reasonable person who would be like, you know, 1:13:29.800 --> 1:13:32.880 if they were here illegally, they've come in a felony. Yeah, 1:13:32.880 --> 1:13:34.719 they need to get the heck out of the country. 1:13:35.200 --> 1:13:39.160 Everyone agrees on that. When you are taking kids who 1:13:39.160 --> 1:13:44.080 are seventeen years old who came here, I just in America. 1:13:44.120 --> 1:13:45.800 You're seeing this, and I don't know if you've seen 1:13:45.840 --> 1:13:50.360 what's happening in North Carolina. They had thirty thousand students 1:13:50.479 --> 1:13:55.400 walk out. And North Carolina is not California, it is 1:13:55.439 --> 1:13:59.120 not New York, it's not Illinois. So when you're starting 1:13:59.160 --> 1:14:02.000 to see swings to be like, hey, guys, come on, 1:14:02.080 --> 1:14:08.200 this is this is a little much between that factor 1:14:08.240 --> 1:14:13.599 and the economy. People are just tired. You know, we 1:14:13.680 --> 1:14:16.519 lived this eight years ago. That people are like, we 1:14:16.600 --> 1:14:19.679 just go listen, sweepy. Joe was sleepy for a reason. 1:14:20.800 --> 1:14:26.840 You know, he was born, he didn't do much. And 1:14:26.880 --> 1:14:30.760 it's the exact opposite of Trump, where every day, every day, uh, 1:14:31.160 --> 1:14:32.120 it's just something new. 1:14:32.360 --> 1:14:32.519 Yeah. 1:14:32.560 --> 1:14:34.800 The Epstein files on top of that, fighting this whole 1:14:34.800 --> 1:14:36.840 thing and then coming out on saying fine, I saw it. 1:14:36.840 --> 1:14:38.519 I allegedly signed it yesterday. 1:14:39.439 --> 1:14:42.559 But you know, we're also skeptical, going, okay, well, how 1:14:42.640 --> 1:14:44.800 much redaction is going to occur here? And are you 1:14:44.920 --> 1:14:47.200 just going to cross up the names of Republicans and 1:14:47.280 --> 1:14:49.280 leave Democrats out hanging. Someone said that you don't want 1:14:49.320 --> 1:14:51.720 to go arrest Bill and Hillary. It's a little presumptuous 1:14:51.760 --> 1:14:54.320 at this point, considering that Bill wasn't even that that 1:14:54.439 --> 1:14:56.519 bubble wasn't the same bubble ligedly that was. 1:14:59.400 --> 1:15:01.800 Well, And the bigger thing I'm looking at at the 1:15:01.800 --> 1:15:07.120 Epstein is the break from the Republicans. The dam was breaking, 1:15:07.280 --> 1:15:09.320 and for you know, Donald Trump has had the pulse 1:15:09.360 --> 1:15:13.000 on the Republican Party for the last decade, decade and 1:15:13.080 --> 1:15:16.320 a half. When it came to the Epstein file, he 1:15:16.479 --> 1:15:17.240 was dead wrong. 1:15:17.400 --> 1:15:18.120 And is this. 1:15:19.760 --> 1:15:22.240 You know, is this the lame duck president to see 1:15:22.280 --> 1:15:24.960 that we're starting to see or is this a one 1:15:25.000 --> 1:15:30.960 off the Epstein file. They misplayed this so poorly that, 1:15:31.960 --> 1:15:34.840 you know, do they ever recover from this? And with 1:15:34.920 --> 1:15:38.360 the reaction and everything, you've already thowed the seeds of 1:15:38.479 --> 1:15:42.720 doubt into everyone. They needed to fire someone immediately when 1:15:42.760 --> 1:15:43.560 the public. 1:15:43.240 --> 1:15:45.840 Backlash happened right away. Yeah, I mean, it was. 1:15:45.800 --> 1:15:49.240 Clear to see that this wasn't going away. So you 1:15:49.320 --> 1:15:55.000 add in, you know, Epstein, the economy, the ice rays. 1:15:55.520 --> 1:15:58.960 I don't see a way coming back from it unless 1:15:59.000 --> 1:16:03.720 magically all the care iff money everyone starts getting two 1:16:03.800 --> 1:16:05.600 thousand dollars checks every month. 1:16:05.760 --> 1:16:09.160 Right right, But even then that's going to still cause 1:16:09.200 --> 1:16:12.160 people like me to cringe because that's supposed to be 1:16:12.160 --> 1:16:14.080 paying the deficit down. That was the important point of 1:16:14.120 --> 1:16:16.720 this thing. And isn't that just another subsidy? So if 1:16:16.760 --> 1:16:18.960 you're against the ACA subsidies, how could you be for 1:16:19.080 --> 1:16:19.719 this subsidy? 1:16:19.720 --> 1:16:20.519 And that's what it is. 1:16:20.880 --> 1:16:24.040 He's Kevin Burton Upholster with Crosstown Consulting in Cincinnati and 1:16:24.080 --> 1:16:27.840 northern Kentucky and talking about the disturbing numbers who are Republican. 1:16:27.920 --> 1:16:30.160 And this is just I don't think it's shocking, but 1:16:30.240 --> 1:16:33.560 I think the gap is shocking. That Trump is underwater significantly, 1:16:33.560 --> 1:16:35.280 his ratings in the thirties right now, but on a 1:16:35.280 --> 1:16:38.599 generic ballot, a Democrat would win handily right now if 1:16:38.680 --> 1:16:41.080 your Democrats be Republican. If you're talking about the party, 1:16:41.800 --> 1:16:44.200 Democrats are up fifty five right now, and that number 1:16:44.200 --> 1:16:46.360 continues to grow every week. And again I'm just looking 1:16:46.400 --> 1:16:50.040 at the aggregate's not the latest, and it's if you're 1:16:50.040 --> 1:16:52.400 a Republican, you must be concerned right now. And this 1:16:52.479 --> 1:16:54.320 is even with Chuck Schumer doing we did to shut 1:16:54.320 --> 1:16:57.200 the government down, and you know, even and you know, 1:16:57.320 --> 1:16:59.640 to be fair, it's I look at the alternative here, 1:16:59.680 --> 1:17:01.160 and I mean, look what's happened in New York City 1:17:01.200 --> 1:17:04.880 with Mondami and the move towards socialism because that party 1:17:04.920 --> 1:17:07.880 is struggling. They're talking about Hakeem Jefferies getting, you know, 1:17:08.040 --> 1:17:10.559 being shown the Dora because he is a you know, 1:17:11.240 --> 1:17:13.960 part of the establishment, and the new way for the 1:17:14.040 --> 1:17:17.760 left is progressivism and specifically socialism. And now you're having 1:17:17.800 --> 1:17:19.800 all these candidates that are going to try to repeat 1:17:19.840 --> 1:17:22.519 with MANDAMMI did across the country. That's not good for 1:17:22.560 --> 1:17:25.240 the establishment Democrats. Not like they don't have problems either. 1:17:26.120 --> 1:17:29.320 Well, and this is no different than what we saw 1:17:29.920 --> 1:17:31.280 fifteen years ago. 1:17:31.160 --> 1:17:32.599 With the Tea Party movement. 1:17:34.080 --> 1:17:36.640 You know, for what is it Newton's third law? For 1:17:36.720 --> 1:17:40.479 every action there's an equal for opposite reaction. And you're 1:17:40.520 --> 1:17:42.960 seeing this. You know, Nancy Pelosi has said that she's 1:17:42.960 --> 1:17:47.280 no longer running. Democrats are, and it's no different than 1:17:47.320 --> 1:17:50.679 what we saw with the Republicans. You know, they're tired 1:17:50.720 --> 1:17:55.599 of the status quo. They're not happy there, and that's 1:17:55.600 --> 1:18:00.200 why you're seeing all of these you know, Nazylo, the 1:18:00.720 --> 1:18:05.320 Dick Durbin all exiting. I mean, how King Jeffrey is 1:18:05.360 --> 1:18:10.479 getting a primary opponent now, I mean Chuck Shimmer would 1:18:10.520 --> 1:18:12.040 would any of us be shocked? 1:18:12.560 --> 1:18:12.760 Now? 1:18:12.760 --> 1:18:15.920 The thing about Mandannie is he's one of one. I 1:18:16.000 --> 1:18:20.640 don't care who you are. He has Aura riz or 1:18:20.680 --> 1:18:21.800 whatever the kid can call it. 1:18:21.800 --> 1:18:22.240 The day. 1:18:24.040 --> 1:18:27.080 He is one of one. You know, it's like how 1:18:27.120 --> 1:18:32.960 Trump or Obama that like you you can't recreate it, 1:18:33.080 --> 1:18:35.320 you know, like you just sure you can't. 1:18:35.160 --> 1:18:36.599 But you had people who copy. 1:18:36.640 --> 1:18:38.360 I mean, how many people ran like, hey, you know, 1:18:38.479 --> 1:18:39.960 here's a picture of me with Trump and I'm a 1:18:39.960 --> 1:18:42.960 Trump conservative Magan. A lot of people ran in one 1:18:43.040 --> 1:18:46.200 office on that, and certainly they're pale in comparison to 1:18:46.280 --> 1:18:48.280 the genuine article. I think the same is probably true 1:18:48.280 --> 1:18:50.960 with Mandami, although he's just Mayor of New York right now. 1:18:51.000 --> 1:18:53.799 But you wonder in the next four to eight years, 1:18:54.960 --> 1:18:57.360 what happens if the political wins don't change. 1:18:57.400 --> 1:18:57.880 Is that fair? 1:18:58.760 --> 1:19:01.280 And I think we talked about the really early on 1:19:01.479 --> 1:19:06.680 when you asked me about AOC and I said, you know, 1:19:07.000 --> 1:19:11.720 if history repeats itself, we would have the most progressive 1:19:11.760 --> 1:19:16.880 president since FDR. And it's looking that way. Who the 1:19:16.920 --> 1:19:21.320 Democrats will nominate. You know, it's counterintuitive because everyone's like, well, 1:19:21.320 --> 1:19:23.000 they should run to the middle, they should run to 1:19:23.000 --> 1:19:26.200 the middle. That's exactly what we were saying about Republicans 1:19:26.880 --> 1:19:29.800 after the loss of Mitt Romney. But the one thing 1:19:29.840 --> 1:19:32.479 that Donald Trump has brought is if you can get 1:19:32.520 --> 1:19:37.679 your supporters out, it frankly doesn't matter about the other side. 1:19:38.360 --> 1:19:40.960 So if you can turn out your base, and we 1:19:41.000 --> 1:19:46.120 saw this with Mindannie, there's no other way. It's the 1:19:46.240 --> 1:19:48.559 easiest way to win an election. And that's the one 1:19:48.600 --> 1:19:52.200 thing Donald Trump has tapped into that He's shown kind 1:19:52.240 --> 1:19:56.680 of politics that it's not really crossing over, it's just 1:19:56.760 --> 1:20:00.680 getting every last person in the world who believes in you, 1:20:01.200 --> 1:20:03.160 and just getting them to the polls. 1:20:03.720 --> 1:20:06.320 Kevin Burton, pollster on the show this morning and talking 1:20:06.320 --> 1:20:09.360 about the startling poll if you're a Republican that Trump 1:20:09.439 --> 1:20:11.880 is underwater and the parties underwater for that matter, right 1:20:11.920 --> 1:20:15.160 now and headed towards midterms in less than a year, 1:20:15.200 --> 1:20:18.320 which politically is not much time at all. This could 1:20:18.320 --> 1:20:22.160 be the biggest win for Democrats since twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. 1:20:22.240 --> 1:20:24.840 And it's to scare you if you are on the 1:20:24.920 --> 1:20:27.040 right or right leaning of the case. May be because 1:20:27.720 --> 1:20:30.160 it's starting to unravel here and the promises made have 1:20:30.240 --> 1:20:32.479 not been promises kept to this point on many things, 1:20:33.160 --> 1:20:35.240 and yet on others there's a lot of success there. 1:20:35.240 --> 1:20:37.080 It doesn't get the credit for. I think also, are 1:20:37.080 --> 1:20:39.920 we seeing a generational shift here with voters that the 1:20:39.960 --> 1:20:42.240 young people actually, I mean Madonmee got young people to 1:20:42.280 --> 1:20:44.320 turn out to vote. Now, New York City's outliers, not 1:20:44.400 --> 1:20:49.280 Cincinnati or Dayton or Louisville or Indianapolis. But nonetheless, I 1:20:49.280 --> 1:20:51.680 think you got to pay attention to this. I think 1:20:51.720 --> 1:20:54.320 it's also changed too that you know, I keep hearing 1:20:54.360 --> 1:20:56.679 about from conservatives about how it's the media's fault. 1:20:56.720 --> 1:20:57.280 The media, the media. 1:20:57.280 --> 1:20:59.919 The only people consuming media and are talking about ABC, 1:21:00.120 --> 1:21:04.240 NBCCBS and Fox largely are very very old people. And 1:21:04.280 --> 1:21:07.519 then old people love cable news. Younger voters don't care 1:21:07.520 --> 1:21:09.160 about any of that stuff. So say this is all 1:21:09.360 --> 1:21:11.920 in the media twisting things. The people who are voting 1:21:11.920 --> 1:21:13.800 are the people who got Mondanian office, and the young 1:21:13.880 --> 1:21:16.240 voters are talking about here are getting their news from 1:21:16.280 --> 1:21:19.400 social media and and very defsive and by the way, 1:21:19.439 --> 1:21:25.320 in partisan partisan influencers. So you know, that whole model 1:21:25.439 --> 1:21:27.400 is it's it's kind of tired to blame everything on 1:21:27.400 --> 1:21:28.600 the media. 1:21:28.720 --> 1:21:34.720 I legacy media honestly is kind of irrelevant. I mean 1:21:35.200 --> 1:21:38.040 it is because you say, to your point, it's one 1:21:39.160 --> 1:21:43.439 old people, sorry, old people, some one to watch yeh 1:21:43.680 --> 1:21:45.559 watch TV. Well, you're not going to change your mind. 1:21:45.640 --> 1:21:49.400 You've already made up your mind. Statistically speaking, if you 1:21:49.400 --> 1:21:52.599 have voted one way for the last seven elections, you're 1:21:52.640 --> 1:21:56.800 going to vote the same way when Donnie. Just like 1:21:56.840 --> 1:22:01.720 how Trump tapped into Twitter, he tapped in TikTok. And 1:22:01.760 --> 1:22:04.920 that's to be really fascinating to see because every election 1:22:05.120 --> 1:22:06.320 there's a new technology. 1:22:06.360 --> 1:22:06.519 You know. 1:22:06.640 --> 1:22:09.439 Obama was the first to tap into YouTube, the first 1:22:09.439 --> 1:22:11.759 to tap into Facebook. Trump was the first to tappen 1:22:12.439 --> 1:22:17.879 to Twitter, TikTok. You know, it's gonna be really interesting 1:22:17.920 --> 1:22:21.519 to see this next election. Who goes quote unquote viral. 1:22:21.920 --> 1:22:26.000 Who can really get the the young vote, because you know, 1:22:26.720 --> 1:22:30.000 the young vote is always the promise of tomorrow that 1:22:30.120 --> 1:22:32.960 when you're trying to win an election, you think you 1:22:33.000 --> 1:22:37.160 know you're gonna get them. But it's also a fool's gold. 1:22:37.400 --> 1:22:41.000 You know, for every campaign that wins, there's two campaigns that. 1:22:40.920 --> 1:22:42.519 Bet everything on the young vote. 1:22:42.600 --> 1:22:45.559 Yep, So always be cautious about the young vote. 1:22:45.640 --> 1:22:49.439 Kevin Burton, Pollster, Crossdown Consulting. Always appreciate the fabulous insight 1:22:49.520 --> 1:22:52.439 in the nonpartisan look at what's behind the numbers here 1:22:52.439 --> 1:22:54.720 at the polling. Thanks again, brother, I have a great Thanksgiving. 1:22:54.720 --> 1:22:55.639 I appreciate you. 1:22:55.680 --> 1:22:57.040 Thank you, Scott, have a great one. 1:22:57.280 --> 1:22:59.160 Care can you reverse course here with this thing? I 1:22:59.520 --> 1:23:03.040 don't know these numbers are yeah, you go? Oh, I 1:23:03.040 --> 1:23:05.680 don't believe the polls, well, don't believe them to your 1:23:05.680 --> 1:23:08.360 own detriment. But clearly you got to focus on what 1:23:08.400 --> 1:23:10.679 you got elected on, and that is making America great again. 1:23:11.160 --> 1:23:15.000 Now attacking Venezuela for whatever reason, having the Saudi princes 1:23:15.040 --> 1:23:17.320 come in, I don't know why some of this other 1:23:17.360 --> 1:23:20.479 noise focus on. Focus on the economy. You know, you 1:23:20.479 --> 1:23:23.519 talked about the tariffs working and pretty clearly for all 1:23:23.560 --> 1:23:25.559 the majority of the people pulled anyway, it's not at 1:23:25.560 --> 1:23:27.840 this point. I think healthcare is another one you could 1:23:27.880 --> 1:23:30.639 really do something about, and you've neglected that for fifteen years. 1:23:30.640 --> 1:23:32.360 We'll see Sloaney seven hundred WW. 1:23:33.360 --> 1:23:37.880 It's Real Estate Time with Michelle Sloan, Remax time agent 1:23:37.960 --> 1:23:43.000 extraordinaire from Sloan sellshomes dot com. Now pay attention, then 1:23:43.040 --> 1:23:46.120 take notes. There might be a pop quiz at the end. 1:23:46.760 --> 1:23:49.519 On seven hundred W. L Jawadi Good. 1:23:49.280 --> 1:23:53.280 Morning, House things, Hey, good morning, it's almost afternoon. 1:23:54.760 --> 1:23:55.759 I'm ready for lunch. 1:23:56.400 --> 1:24:00.719 Nothing yet, buys you? Matt Locke, Oh shut up, jeez. 1:24:02.200 --> 1:24:05.720 Okay, this is the small talk portion of our program today. 1:24:05.960 --> 1:24:07.960 That's why I married her. Sharp as a cue ball. 1:24:08.200 --> 1:24:12.720 Hey, this is we did something we normally don't do 1:24:12.760 --> 1:24:15.280 and I hate doing it, but actually, this time, I 1:24:15.280 --> 1:24:18.000 don't know why, it felt so good to put our 1:24:18.040 --> 1:24:21.439 Christmas decorations up early. Normally where I want to respect 1:24:21.439 --> 1:24:24.160 Turkey and not do anything before the tur Birth of Thanksgiving, 1:24:24.160 --> 1:24:26.120 but I said, you know what, f itt uh, let's 1:24:26.160 --> 1:24:29.360 put our decorations up in the new house. And you know, 1:24:29.479 --> 1:24:31.840 I think maybe with all the turmoil in our lives 1:24:31.880 --> 1:24:34.639 and everyone's lives these days, and handwringing and concern about 1:24:34.680 --> 1:24:38.160 the future and what's going on, you know, there's comfort 1:24:38.160 --> 1:24:40.679 in the holidays. So hopefully you get comfort in the holidays. 1:24:40.680 --> 1:24:42.479 I know some people don't, but we do, and that's 1:24:42.520 --> 1:24:44.280 why we decided to go early on it. 1:24:44.760 --> 1:24:48.120 We did last weekend, I mean, two weeks before Thanksgiving, 1:24:48.160 --> 1:24:51.400 which is crazy. But at the same time, you know, 1:24:51.439 --> 1:24:55.400 Thanksgiving is late this year, at least it feels later 1:24:55.520 --> 1:24:57.200 than normal. I don't know, it's the same. 1:24:57.240 --> 1:24:59.360 I guess, yeah, I feel later. I guess. 1:24:59.400 --> 1:25:02.679 I don't know, no, but it's it's always nice because 1:25:02.720 --> 1:25:05.200 once we put the tree up, the lights stay on 1:25:05.520 --> 1:25:08.760 the entire season, so it's it's a good thing. 1:25:08.920 --> 1:25:09.599 I will say this. 1:25:09.920 --> 1:25:13.080 There is of all the inventions out there, little gimmicks 1:25:13.080 --> 1:25:15.559 and things like that that's in need of is has 1:25:15.600 --> 1:25:19.080 anyone successfully ever been able to put the angel or 1:25:19.120 --> 1:25:21.559 the star atop the tree in less than an hour 1:25:21.960 --> 1:25:23.800 to get it to the sit straight. It has been 1:25:24.040 --> 1:25:26.840 since the dawn of time, since the first Christmas tree 1:25:26.920 --> 1:25:30.080 was up, somebody's always tried to put the star on top, 1:25:30.120 --> 1:25:32.880 and it's always crooked. And you spend fifteen minutes trying 1:25:32.920 --> 1:25:34.479 to get that thing out here on the ladder or 1:25:34.479 --> 1:25:37.160 a chair, and you're gonna fall over, and then your 1:25:37.160 --> 1:25:38.040 spouse is turn it. 1:25:38.080 --> 1:25:43.160 To that light no more, your left, no the other way. 1:25:43.920 --> 1:25:46.680 And it just evolves into you know, you bought a 1:25:46.680 --> 1:25:49.160 new star for the top of the tree because. 1:25:48.880 --> 1:25:51.200 The other star would never sit right. 1:25:51.320 --> 1:25:53.720 Well, my angel, And what happened was we had the 1:25:53.760 --> 1:25:56.160 agel and I was trying to get that straight, and 1:25:56.240 --> 1:25:58.200 I've got mad and fired it across the room and 1:25:58.400 --> 1:25:59.960 I broke our So I just I'm probably going to 1:26:00.080 --> 1:26:02.760 hell for that, destroying an angel. But nonetheless, she had 1:26:02.800 --> 1:26:06.200 it coming, No she did not, she did. She decided 1:26:06.240 --> 1:26:08.400 to send a message and uh so you bought this 1:26:08.760 --> 1:26:10.720 star and that's kind of janky, and it's got like 1:26:10.920 --> 1:26:13.400 there's nothing that works to try to fix that thing 1:26:13.400 --> 1:26:17.080 that they put the you know, they've got the upside 1:26:17.080 --> 1:26:19.400 down ice cream cone on the angel's ass and it's 1:26:19.400 --> 1:26:21.720 supposed to sit there and it doesn't sit there. And 1:26:21.720 --> 1:26:27.320 then the star that ass that doesn't work either. Well, 1:26:27.479 --> 1:26:29.880 you know this is these are the things. 1:26:31.240 --> 1:26:31.960 Don't worry about. 1:26:32.040 --> 1:26:34.040 I guess it's just the thing everyone goes through it. 1:26:34.040 --> 1:26:35.720 It's like there's no easy way to get that thing 1:26:35.800 --> 1:26:38.519 straight up and down, Like, wow, that's perfect. It took 1:26:38.560 --> 1:26:41.000 me a good fifteen twenty minutes standing on the ladder 1:26:41.000 --> 1:26:44.560 to the point where the tay after my cat's hurt. 1:26:45.800 --> 1:26:46.880 That's the sad part. 1:26:47.479 --> 1:26:49.120 I'm used to being on ladders. You know, got a 1:26:49.120 --> 1:26:49.840 little step stool. 1:26:49.880 --> 1:26:51.479 I'm trying to reach up there, and I should have 1:26:51.520 --> 1:26:53.440 got my ladder, but it was at the shop. 1:26:53.360 --> 1:26:58.000 Like recording you because then you know, if something happened 1:26:58.000 --> 1:27:00.320 and you fell over on top of the tree. 1:27:00.960 --> 1:27:03.439 Throw a window, that would have been great, fantastic, awesome. 1:27:03.439 --> 1:27:07.200 My life is just what I need is more surgery. Yeah, 1:27:07.200 --> 1:27:09.519 but we're in the artificial tree phase of our I 1:27:09.560 --> 1:27:12.400 would we get the real tree. And it was always 1:27:12.439 --> 1:27:14.160 nice because we've bring the kids, and the kids are young, 1:27:14.200 --> 1:27:15.840 and they couldn't wait, and they get to help and 1:27:15.840 --> 1:27:17.479 saw the tree. You know, we do the whole Clark 1:27:17.520 --> 1:27:19.759 Griswolt thing and go to the farm up in Lebanon 1:27:20.120 --> 1:27:21.519 and get a get a tree up there. And it 1:27:21.560 --> 1:27:23.160 was awesome because they had the cocoa for the kids, 1:27:23.160 --> 1:27:26.640 and they give you an annual orn and popcorn, and 1:27:26.720 --> 1:27:28.799 you know, they had like, I don't know, a goat 1:27:28.840 --> 1:27:30.559 that we called it was a reindeer, but it was 1:27:30.600 --> 1:27:33.599 just a goat. And kids are stupid, so they don't know. Anyway, 1:27:33.640 --> 1:27:35.360 they're playing with the reindeer that's actually a goat. But 1:27:35.400 --> 1:27:37.760 I ain't gonna say nothing, so we go and go. 1:27:37.840 --> 1:27:40.040 And then finally they hit those tween and teenager years, 1:27:40.040 --> 1:27:41.320 and then everything was stupid. 1:27:41.320 --> 1:27:42.439 They didn't want to do all this stuff. 1:27:42.439 --> 1:27:43.920 And I'm like, well, why am I spending all this 1:27:44.000 --> 1:27:47.040 money and hauling them out to the out to the farm, 1:27:47.080 --> 1:27:48.880 and they have no interest. They didn't want to get 1:27:48.880 --> 1:27:50.360 out of the car, you know, so like, the hell 1:27:50.400 --> 1:27:51.320 with it, We're going home. 1:27:51.360 --> 1:27:52.920 I'm buying an artificial Christmas tree. 1:27:54.200 --> 1:27:58.240 Well, and then for in those teenage years, they nobody 1:27:58.280 --> 1:28:00.559 would ever help me put anything up. So I got 1:28:00.600 --> 1:28:03.760 to a point where I'm like, I mean, I want 1:28:03.760 --> 1:28:06.960 to put the darn ornaments on the tree anymore. It's like, 1:28:07.360 --> 1:28:09.000 and then I'm the only one that takes it down. 1:28:09.040 --> 1:28:12.559 You usually are in charge of the outdoor light display 1:28:12.600 --> 1:28:15.240 called Clark, and then I'll do the inside. 1:28:15.280 --> 1:28:17.200 But yeah, we it is. 1:28:17.320 --> 1:28:20.280 It does feel good to have the holiday lights on 1:28:20.600 --> 1:28:23.320 and it's been cold and dreary, and when the lights 1:28:23.320 --> 1:28:25.920 are on and it's glowing, it is it's kind of 1:28:25.960 --> 1:28:28.760 magical and it and it feels good when you come 1:28:28.800 --> 1:28:32.479 home and the lights have to be on because it's 1:28:32.560 --> 1:28:33.160 dark outside. 1:28:33.240 --> 1:28:36.080 Yeah, it's it's there's a comfort to it, right. Even 1:28:36.120 --> 1:28:40.360 if that angel or the star is crooked, Yeah, I'll. 1:28:40.240 --> 1:28:40.760 Have to take it. 1:28:40.800 --> 1:28:43.439 I'll take a picture of our crooked star post. The 1:28:43.680 --> 1:28:45.559 angel angel top of the tree is just a weird thing. 1:28:45.600 --> 1:28:48.200 I mean, like the branch is upper skirt, it's like 1:28:48.320 --> 1:28:50.559 and then there's it just it's it's just I don't 1:28:50.600 --> 1:28:53.479 know why a star is much much better. Let's get 1:28:53.479 --> 1:28:55.800 into real estate related stuff, not holiday related stuff. 1:28:55.840 --> 1:28:56.240 Should you have. 1:28:56.280 --> 1:28:58.320 Christmas decorations up if you're trying to sell your house? 1:28:59.720 --> 1:29:02.160 Yeah, and no, so for pictures. 1:29:02.200 --> 1:29:06.800 I do try to keep it fairly generic because the 1:29:06.840 --> 1:29:10.760 pictures are going to possibly outlast the holiday season. And 1:29:10.800 --> 1:29:13.960 that's what's happening right now, because the market is slow 1:29:14.800 --> 1:29:18.320 and we have listings that are staying on the market 1:29:18.400 --> 1:29:21.960 for more than thirty days. And so if your pictures 1:29:22.160 --> 1:29:25.200 show the holidays even when this snow outside. So we 1:29:25.280 --> 1:29:29.400 had that brief little snowfall, and some people were putting 1:29:29.400 --> 1:29:31.640 their house on the market during that snow, so the 1:29:31.680 --> 1:29:35.160 photos showed snow. Well, that sort of dates your photos, 1:29:35.920 --> 1:29:39.439 and so it'll be fine obviously for the next couple months. 1:29:39.479 --> 1:29:42.679 But if you're if it takes longer to sell your home, 1:29:42.920 --> 1:29:48.679 you know, generic is better, and it just certainly when 1:29:48.680 --> 1:29:52.479 you are living your life in between showings because you're 1:29:52.479 --> 1:29:54.759 not going to have as many showings during the holidays. 1:29:54.800 --> 1:29:56.719 A lot of people take their home off the market, 1:29:57.000 --> 1:29:59.679 and frankly, I don't think that's the best idea because 1:29:59.680 --> 1:30:02.479 you can sell your home unless people know that it's there. 1:30:02.920 --> 1:30:06.519 So there are buyers out there that are serious. But 1:30:06.880 --> 1:30:08.439 if you are a seller, I. 1:30:08.400 --> 1:30:12.920 Would say, you know, keep the holiday decorations to a minimum. 1:30:13.160 --> 1:30:16.480 I have one listening that's been out there since October 1:30:17.000 --> 1:30:20.520 and they wanted to have you know, fall like pumpkins 1:30:20.600 --> 1:30:23.479 and stuff in their photos, and I said, nope, we 1:30:23.560 --> 1:30:26.280 can't do that because you know, we don't want to 1:30:26.360 --> 1:30:28.800 date the photos and show that it's been on the 1:30:28.800 --> 1:30:31.639 market longer than we like to think. But it's part 1:30:31.640 --> 1:30:35.920 of the process and generic is better, all. 1:30:35.920 --> 1:30:36.599 Right, fair enough? 1:30:36.640 --> 1:30:40.360 What about those who put religious artifacts and decorations up 1:30:40.439 --> 1:30:42.599 and the Jesus is the reason for the season, and 1:30:42.680 --> 1:30:44.640 you know, you may go and have I don't know, 1:30:45.560 --> 1:30:47.559 a live Nativity scene on your front lawn. Does that 1:30:47.600 --> 1:30:49.960 turn people away? And how do you navigate that? 1:30:50.479 --> 1:30:54.920 Yeah, it's a conversation that we have. Is that not 1:30:55.200 --> 1:30:58.639 all people believe and when you are selling your home, 1:30:58.720 --> 1:31:01.439 it is a good idea to put away a lot 1:31:01.479 --> 1:31:05.120 of the religious artifacts. Now, my mom sold her home 1:31:05.280 --> 1:31:09.120 over the summer and she has she is the devoted 1:31:09.200 --> 1:31:12.240 Catholic that she is, and she has crosses and. 1:31:12.439 --> 1:31:15.120 Massive every day Rosary, four times. 1:31:14.880 --> 1:31:17.080 A day, constantly, and it's. 1:31:19.040 --> 1:31:19.519 Living room. 1:31:20.600 --> 1:31:21.120 They did not. 1:31:23.080 --> 1:31:23.439 Anyway. 1:31:24.280 --> 1:31:28.160 I said, Mom, I love you, I know that that's 1:31:28.240 --> 1:31:31.360 important to you, but it's not important to everybody. You 1:31:31.439 --> 1:31:34.000 need to go ahead and put those in a box. 1:31:34.040 --> 1:31:35.720 And she said, I'm not going to do it. If 1:31:35.720 --> 1:31:37.920 they don't like it too bad, I'm like, okay, well, 1:31:37.960 --> 1:31:42.519 it is ultimately your decision, but I feel like it's 1:31:42.560 --> 1:31:44.720 always best. If you want to leave a couple of 1:31:44.920 --> 1:31:48.479 items out, fine, but you want to neutralize your home, 1:31:48.680 --> 1:31:50.640 just like you know, you don't want a ton of 1:31:50.680 --> 1:31:54.799 holiday decorations now. If you're gonna right now, you've got kids, 1:31:55.160 --> 1:31:57.320 your home is on the market, you have to sell. 1:31:57.760 --> 1:32:00.040 You're going to put a tree up or something like that, 1:32:00.040 --> 1:32:02.479 that's okay, it's okay, Just don't have it in the 1:32:02.479 --> 1:32:03.680 pictures if you can avoid it. 1:32:03.840 --> 1:32:07.000 Yeah, okay, So no giant crucifix in the living room. 1:32:07.400 --> 1:32:10.880 I would not recommend that. Just an important safety tip 1:32:10.920 --> 1:32:13.840 there if you're trying to sell. So yeah, so what 1:32:14.040 --> 1:32:19.560 is uh safety? 1:32:19.800 --> 1:32:20.120 All right? 1:32:20.160 --> 1:32:20.960 What else you got? 1:32:22.320 --> 1:32:26.120 Well, you know, this time of year, most people are thinking, well, 1:32:26.120 --> 1:32:28.439 I can't buy my house now because I can't get 1:32:28.439 --> 1:32:33.040 a real inspection. And so talking about home inspections during 1:32:33.040 --> 1:32:36.439 the cold winter months is the topic that I find 1:32:36.640 --> 1:32:39.840 quite fascinating because there are some things that an inspector 1:32:39.880 --> 1:32:42.200 is not going to be able to see. Let's say 1:32:42.280 --> 1:32:44.040 there is snow on your roof, well, they're not going 1:32:44.080 --> 1:32:46.320 to be able to like blow the snow off the 1:32:46.400 --> 1:32:48.400 roof to check it, but they can go up to 1:32:48.439 --> 1:32:51.120 see the attic. They can see some things that you 1:32:51.200 --> 1:32:53.840 don't have to see from the outside of the home. 1:32:53.960 --> 1:32:58.479 So the cold weather actually helps inspectors find problems like 1:32:58.600 --> 1:33:04.599 drafts and air leaks, insulation problems, heating system, frozen or 1:33:04.640 --> 1:33:07.880 slow drains, which that's obviously something you're never going to 1:33:07.960 --> 1:33:13.040 see in the summertime. Window seal failures, ice damming in 1:33:13.080 --> 1:33:16.320 the roof edges, if you've got too little or too 1:33:16.360 --> 1:33:20.200 much insulation. Those kinds of things you can really see 1:33:20.439 --> 1:33:25.120 during the winter months. So that's a good thing. Did 1:33:25.160 --> 1:33:28.400 I say the AC You can't test your air efficiency. 1:33:31.080 --> 1:33:31.360 That way? 1:33:32.120 --> 1:33:34.800 Yeah, you can't do that. You'll bust it up. Yeah no, 1:33:34.920 --> 1:33:36.240 I don't. Just you just can't do it. 1:33:37.520 --> 1:33:38.280 Snow what happens. 1:33:38.400 --> 1:33:40.040 You can't do it because snow will come out of 1:33:40.080 --> 1:33:41.320 your ducks and that's not good. 1:33:41.880 --> 1:33:42.719 I don't think that's. 1:33:42.600 --> 1:33:43.519 Oh, it's very true. 1:33:44.000 --> 1:33:47.160 I think you're making that up. See I can call 1:33:47.200 --> 1:33:49.639 out your bs anyway. 1:33:50.560 --> 1:33:52.960 No testing the AC below a certain temperature, so you 1:33:52.960 --> 1:33:55.920 can't do that. But I okay, But there's other things 1:33:55.960 --> 1:33:56.320 you can do. 1:33:57.000 --> 1:34:00.200 Oh absolutely, again, you know the other this is an 1:34:00.200 --> 1:34:05.640 interesting statistic or fact. Radon tests are more accurate in 1:34:05.720 --> 1:34:07.719 winter than they are in the summer. 1:34:08.400 --> 1:34:09.000 What about that. 1:34:09.160 --> 1:34:12.479 That's interesting because everything's kind of closed up, so you're 1:34:12.640 --> 1:34:14.240 you know, you don't have your windows open. 1:34:14.360 --> 1:34:17.960 Yeah, I know that if you've got pumbing problemly, plumbing problems, 1:34:18.000 --> 1:34:18.960 they show up in the winter. 1:34:18.800 --> 1:34:19.320 That's for sure. 1:34:19.880 --> 1:34:20.560 Absolutely. 1:34:20.880 --> 1:34:24.320 And if you have you know, if your drains are 1:34:24.360 --> 1:34:28.400 slow or you have slow water coming out of the 1:34:28.439 --> 1:34:30.760 faucets and stuff, that could mean that you have some 1:34:30.800 --> 1:34:35.000 frozen pipes along the way. That's definitely something. Winter can 1:34:35.040 --> 1:34:38.959 also expose pest issues. 1:34:39.080 --> 1:34:41.200 Well, let's focus on the plumbing for a second, because 1:34:41.240 --> 1:34:43.280 you know what Friday is. It's not Black Friday, it's 1:34:43.320 --> 1:34:43.960 brown Friday. 1:34:44.000 --> 1:34:44.679 Did you know that. 1:34:47.439 --> 1:34:49.160 After you've eaten all the food? All right? 1:34:49.280 --> 1:34:50.559 Yes, that's plumbing calls. 1:34:50.640 --> 1:34:50.800 Man. 1:34:50.840 --> 1:34:54.000 Plumbers make a fortune on the weekend after just beeaking. Well, 1:34:54.000 --> 1:34:55.840 you got to think about it, you know, especially have 1:34:55.920 --> 1:34:59.640 one bathroom in your place maybe and you've got a 1:34:59.640 --> 1:35:02.240 lot of people there, and it's constant, constant, constant, and 1:35:02.400 --> 1:35:04.559 there's a lot of paper and things going down there 1:35:04.560 --> 1:35:06.879 and maybe kids to throw things down there they shouldn't. 1:35:06.880 --> 1:35:09.760 And of course your plumbing system and you may not 1:35:09.880 --> 1:35:12.519 know because you use it occasionally not as frequently, and 1:35:12.520 --> 1:35:14.280 when you get that high use thing going on there, 1:35:14.600 --> 1:35:16.360 it tends to club. There's a lot of paper and 1:35:16.400 --> 1:35:19.640 stuff down there. And so yeah, because there's just so 1:35:19.640 --> 1:35:20.559 many people using. 1:35:20.400 --> 1:35:23.200 It, Okay, that's good time, just FYI. 1:35:23.360 --> 1:35:25.720 So you know, maybe go in shifts or be a 1:35:25.760 --> 1:35:28.439 little more conservative, hand out one square when they go 1:35:28.520 --> 1:35:29.720 in and say this is all you get. 1:35:30.080 --> 1:35:31.800 I don't know, don't use the whole role. 1:35:32.560 --> 1:35:35.800 Yeah. Or my nephew who goes in AND's. 1:35:35.720 --> 1:35:37.960 Like three days, like I'll see if he's still he's 1:35:37.960 --> 1:35:40.280 just getting our bathroom now. He was there since I 1:35:40.320 --> 1:35:44.080 think labor day. So I don't know what he's doing 1:35:44.080 --> 1:35:44.400 in there. 1:35:44.680 --> 1:35:45.160 I don't know. 1:35:45.280 --> 1:35:46.800 I don't want to know what he's doing in there. 1:35:46.920 --> 1:35:47.960 No, I don't. 1:35:49.479 --> 1:35:52.800 All right, see, uh remember one time he missed like 1:35:52.840 --> 1:35:54.639 the entire first half of the football game. 1:35:54.680 --> 1:35:56.200 It's like, are you okay? Yeah, I'm fine. 1:35:56.280 --> 1:35:58.840 Just takes me a while, okay, all right, whatever. So 1:35:59.479 --> 1:36:02.599 more than you look at that, Yeah, it's just it's 1:36:02.600 --> 1:36:04.840 brown fry plumbers kind of joke about it, but there's 1:36:04.880 --> 1:36:06.839 a lot of truth to it, a lot of service 1:36:06.880 --> 1:36:08.840 calls because of clock and all of that. It's also 1:36:08.920 --> 1:36:11.880 you know, people putting stuff down drains they shouldn't. If 1:36:11.880 --> 1:36:13.479 you have a disposal at your home and you're used 1:36:13.479 --> 1:36:15.600 to it and Aunt Sally's I'll do the dish. No, 1:36:15.680 --> 1:36:17.960 you've put all this cooking. It was delicious, honey, you 1:36:18.000 --> 1:36:20.880 go watch the football, I'll clean up. And Aunt Sally 1:36:20.960 --> 1:36:23.320 doesn't have a disposal, or she has a disposal that 1:36:23.400 --> 1:36:25.920 you don't and she's cramming, you know, pieces of turkey 1:36:25.960 --> 1:36:27.720 fat down the sink. You're gonna have a problem there. 1:36:27.760 --> 1:36:30.280 Same thing too with the grease, and there are people 1:36:30.360 --> 1:36:33.840 who still don't understand you can't put grease down a 1:36:33.960 --> 1:36:36.120 drain because it causes clogs and backups and you have 1:36:36.200 --> 1:36:38.680 that as well. So yeah, it's a busy day for 1:36:38.720 --> 1:36:39.400 plumbers for sure. 1:36:39.920 --> 1:36:44.640 That's actually the grease tip is huge because I have 1:36:44.800 --> 1:36:48.840 seen the results of someone who has been putting grease 1:36:49.320 --> 1:36:53.320 down there drain for years and so you think, well, 1:36:53.360 --> 1:36:56.120 I'm going to turn the hot water on and the 1:36:56.160 --> 1:36:58.519 grease will go down and it'll just keep going and 1:36:58.920 --> 1:37:02.320 it will be a liquid forever. But it's not because 1:37:02.360 --> 1:37:04.679 at a certain point in the line, it gets cold 1:37:05.400 --> 1:37:10.439 and that grease will solidify and after years and years, 1:37:10.560 --> 1:37:13.760 that's it. It can be a very very expensive I 1:37:14.400 --> 1:37:19.280 saw one one property that we did an inspection and 1:37:19.360 --> 1:37:23.280 the clog from the grease was so significant it was 1:37:23.320 --> 1:37:26.920 halfway out there lawn, you know where by the time 1:37:26.960 --> 1:37:30.280 it got to that point where it solidified, and it 1:37:30.439 --> 1:37:35.800 was a very expensive lesson, no question for the homeowners. 1:37:35.800 --> 1:37:38.599 And they're like, well, we've never had a problem. I'm like, yeah, 1:37:38.640 --> 1:37:40.400 you don't have a problem until you do. 1:37:40.560 --> 1:37:42.320 It's a while for that. 1:37:42.320 --> 1:37:44.160 To you know, a little bit at a time, and 1:37:44.240 --> 1:37:46.080 you know, it's not a commercial kitchen, so it builds. 1:37:46.240 --> 1:37:48.080 So what happens is like anything you think of that pipe, 1:37:48.080 --> 1:37:50.280 it goes down and where's it go It goes straight 1:37:50.320 --> 1:37:51.559 down and that goes I don't know, I'll go through 1:37:51.600 --> 1:37:54.800 my foundation said, right, it's underground where it's cold, and 1:37:54.880 --> 1:37:57.680 at some point that that warm turns to cold and 1:37:57.720 --> 1:38:00.240 there'll be a No matter how much they sloped pipe, 1:38:00.240 --> 1:38:01.920 there's always gonna be a little low spot, a little 1:38:01.960 --> 1:38:03.479 valley in there somewhere. And then if you have a 1:38:03.479 --> 1:38:06.320 break because it's older even more so, but there's gonna 1:38:06.360 --> 1:38:08.200 be a spot where it stops and Clyde, it's good, 1:38:08.520 --> 1:38:10.000 and then it starts to build up and it's like 1:38:10.040 --> 1:38:12.880 your arteries, like eventually it becomes where you've got to 1:38:12.920 --> 1:38:14.880 call the surgeon and in this case the plumber. And 1:38:15.720 --> 1:38:18.720 whether it's I don't know, a bypass or bypassing your 1:38:19.479 --> 1:38:23.160 your your drain stack, it's it's expensive and it's a 1:38:23.240 --> 1:38:25.680 lot of pain. So anyway, my wife Michelle Sloan here 1:38:25.680 --> 1:38:28.360 from sloan sellslones dot com. The open house show that 1:38:28.880 --> 1:38:33.000 airs on the iHeartRadio app. You can hear that there 1:38:33.040 --> 1:38:35.639 and the YouTube too as well, and the video version 1:38:35.640 --> 1:38:37.320 of it as well. She has guests and stuff like that. Anyway, 1:38:37.360 --> 1:38:40.920 she's over at the Remax time in Mainville, and happy holidays. 1:38:41.000 --> 1:38:44.240 Be forewarned about what you put down your sink and plumbing, 1:38:44.280 --> 1:38:47.200 and be careful putting that star arrangel in the tree. 1:38:47.400 --> 1:38:48.880 Somebody needs to come up with a better way to 1:38:48.920 --> 1:38:50.880 do love. You gotta go, I gotta go. Willy's on 1:38:50.880 --> 1:38:54.559 the way next and he has I think he's got is. 1:38:55.280 --> 1:38:56.720 I thought I saw what he had on to I 1:38:56.760 --> 1:38:58.439 know he's gonna get a little bit in the CBD 1:38:58.560 --> 1:39:02.439 stuff as well, and the polling numbers I was talking 1:39:02.479 --> 1:39:05.640 early about with the Republicans and Trump. I don't know 1:39:05.640 --> 1:39:07.639 how concerning that is for the Great American, but I'm 1:39:07.640 --> 1:39:10.559 sure he'll address that at some point after news here 1:39:10.600 --> 1:39:13.240 on the home and the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred WWE, 1:39:13.360 --> 1:39:13.759 Cincinnati