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Speaker 3: Herbert goes back to pass, grows to.

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Speaker 3: The LA Chargers, and it's.

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Speaker 4: A Rondez Aston the second, a fifth round rookie tight

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Speaker 4: unofficially the Chargers are taking a six to zero.

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Speaker 2: League, and you put it, there's one to two on

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Speaker 4: This is a doozy third and eleven from their own

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Speaker 3: In the yard line.

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Speaker 4: Herbert under center hand off to the doll left side,

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Speaker 3: Touchdown LA Chargers.

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Speaker 4: That is their first rushing touchdown of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: Caught touchdown at Mconukee, who blue by Jeff Opuda like

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Speaker 4: LA Chargers. That is Prey Harris, the Mississippi rookie with

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Speaker 3: Let's go back to pass rows a past ball on

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Speaker 4: It's an interception with a pass intended for Jefferson r.

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Speaker 4: That Clemson rookie picked it off and he returned at

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Speaker 2: Six five one carpets plus studios. It's a beautiful Friday.

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Speaker 2: It's a Friday football famine in some ways based on

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Speaker 2: I got the sunshine outside. I got a little sunshine

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Speaker 2: in studio with Chad Greenway at Chad Greenway five to.

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Speaker 3: Two via X.

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Speaker 5: How you doing, man, man, I'm doing well. You know

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Speaker 5: what all we can do is the sun's out. The

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's a famine, but man is

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Speaker 5: a tough It's tough sledding. Right now, you go out

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Speaker 5: no there's no way to hide from it. You can't

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Speaker 5: excuse it away. It's just it's you laid an egg.

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Speaker 5: The thing you're looking at this football team is this

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Speaker 3: Day one, right.

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Speaker 5: No injuries have decimated this team offensively and defensively. Now,

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Speaker 5: it's not an excuse. It's just the reality of this league.

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Speaker 5: And sometimes it goes like that. And I'm excited to

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Speaker 3: Three divisional games, two on the road. What are we

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Speaker 5: What are we made of? At the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: this is this isn't you sports? As a talker last night? Right?

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Speaker 5: All the slices last night in the locker, if I

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Speaker 5: Is this gonna be this is called the event line,

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Speaker 3: Covening collapse is what we do. Nine to Dune.

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Speaker 2: Carson Wentz for Better or Worse is one of the

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Speaker 2: tough I mean, I don't I can't believe that.

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Speaker 5: it wasn't affecting me. He didn't affect me on that throw.

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Speaker 5: You can't run from this stuff that's going on. You

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, because all you can do is take the next

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Speaker 5: nobody on planet Earth I want to make that throw

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Speaker 2: Now is your time, it is it is, It is

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Speaker 3: What was your what was your take on that last night?

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Speaker 3: Here's the deal man.

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Speaker 2: You had to establish a run against a team that

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Speaker 2: Now I'm getting to the point where where you're talking

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Speaker 2: Carson Wentz can't lift his left arm. He can't lift

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Speaker 2: Ryan Right's on to punt. Okay, So don't worry about that.

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Speaker 5: We got he's gonna he's gonna get to call his

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Speaker 5: he's basically playing for his NFL career, basically, so he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we heard it.

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Speaker 3: He was worried about putting the rookie in.

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Speaker 2: How about that shot? And it's not their fault, by

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Speaker 2: maybe sometimes you just got to laugh about it and

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Speaker 3: Without question.

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Speaker 5: You're sitting there almost at the midway point here, a

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Speaker 3: This season is still in front of you.

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Speaker 5: But like from it and again you can just tell

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Speaker 5: when they're talking about their football team, mainly the head

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Speaker 5: I don't have my guys. I mean, it's not one

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Speaker 5: we can't make be making that many mistakes Defensively, Guys

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Speaker 5: We're not making place Now you don't have vang gyinkle,

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Speaker 3: It affects things.

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Speaker 4: We know.

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Speaker 5: We know what he's capable of. We know the big

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Speaker 5: I thought Gernard played well last night, and of course

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Speaker 2: He's beating double teams and he's he's coming from all

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Speaker 3: I'm looking. I'm basically like Grenard is.

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Speaker 2: He's the the energy bug and and apparently the hardest

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Speaker 3: It it, it is it.

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Speaker 2: I wonder how much the personnel has changed. I wonder

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Speaker 2: You had a knee earlier in your career, and just

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Speaker 3: What's going is? Is there a mental aspect in addition

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Speaker 2: Aspect that has to be tackled when you're returning from

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was unfortunate enough to have two ACLS, one

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Speaker 5: we don't know what's going on. We don't know that

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Speaker 2: Because he knows his ACL has been repaired. Yep, right,

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Speaker 5: You know from a from a media don't, but you

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Speaker 2: And there could still be as you mentioned, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Uh well, tough moment.

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Speaker 2: He got run around a little bit last night, probably

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Speaker 3: But I just I just picture like you're either in

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Speaker 2: From the standpoint of you know, school's got to jump

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Speaker 5: I wish, I wish people could realize how hard that is.

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Speaker 5: these days, that are you know all as six five,

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Speaker 5: first drive when we get that interception pick six overturned

438
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Speaker 5: deflating is that it's deflating because of the outcome of

439
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Speaker 5: that drive. To me, if we make them punt, we

440
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Speaker 5: get the ball back at the you know, forty yards

441
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Speaker 5: and here we go kind of wipe it clean and

442
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Speaker 5: kind of wipe it clean. We have the quarterbacks on

443
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Speaker 5: the field, our offense is going, we don't know, all

444
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Speaker 5: of a sudden, this whatever ninety two ninety four yard drive,

445
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 5: wear down the defense in the first possession, playing from behind,

446
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Speaker 5: which we've done more than twenty nine other teams this year.

447
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Speaker 3: Yere playing from behind.

448
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Speaker 5: So all these factors layered in you lose Daris on

449
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Speaker 5: nine plays in you just kind of keep taking the punches.

450
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 5: Now again, you got to react, You got to respond.

451
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Speaker 5: It's the NFL, man, there's no where to hide.

452
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Speaker 2: I mean, you're kind of I mean, you can still

453
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Speaker 2: probably ball in some some pickup hoops or something like that,

454
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Speaker 2: and the why.

455
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Speaker 3: But you're you're a little bit given them out.

456
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Speaker 5: I'm giving the Viking fifteen snaps that they need it. Well,

457
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Speaker 5: Flora Is if you need you know, can't play Van

458
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Speaker 5: Ginggle's position. There's too much contact. I don't want that anymore.

459
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Speaker 2: Seventy plays last night they were Vikings defense was on

460
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Speaker 2: the field for seventy plays, nearly forty minutes a game time.

461
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Speaker 2: How exhausting is that because after just run and just

462
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Speaker 2: run through it. This is cursory stuff. Anybody can see this,

463
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Speaker 2: of course, but it's just it's kind of I'm just

464
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Speaker 2: thinking about how they just systematically grinded us into dust

465
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Speaker 2: last night. The pick six doesn't go the right way

466
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Speaker 2: for us. That's a fourteen play eighty three yard drive,

467
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Speaker 2: seven and a half minutes, We end up punting. They

468
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Speaker 2: come back with another eight play fifty nine yard drive.

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Speaker 3: We answer with a field goal. You have another. You

470
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Speaker 3: have an nine play ninety four yard drive.

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Speaker 2: In three and change towards the end of the first half,

472
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Speaker 2: and I mean the list goes on twelve plays seventy three.

473
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Speaker 3: We finally get that TD.

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Speaker 2: That's six play, twenty six yard Yeah, after the interception,

475
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Speaker 2: and they go twelve and seventy three and just close

476
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Speaker 2: the door on us. Just I mean those long drives, man,

477
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Speaker 2: and just that's very atypical of what I'm thinking when

478
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Speaker 2: I got Flores's defense out there, even without Van Ginkel.

479
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 2: At some point, I just I trust in Flores to

480
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Speaker 2: pull that feather out of his cap and have the

481
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Speaker 2: right answer in a certain spot. And whether it was

482
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Speaker 2: those few plays last week against Philly and then last

483
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Speaker 2: night really in totality meant four hundred yards offense, Kamandi

484
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Speaker 2: Vidal ran for two hundred yards on us. Yeah, as

485
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Speaker 2: a group they did, I should say that was nutty, man,

486
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Speaker 2: I mean just exhausting.

487
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Speaker 3: It must have been.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you look, what was it third downs in

489
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Speaker 5: the first half. I mean they were what.

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Speaker 3: Well, they were nine to thirteen in the game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, five or six in the first half. I mean

492
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Speaker 5: something something crazy. And they've been one of the best season.

493
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Speaker 5: Which also tells me though, is like when you're allowed

494
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Speaker 5: vital to be such a good, such an impact player

495
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Speaker 5: in the run game, and obviously the way we are

496
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Speaker 5: killed with Herbert and his feet last night, I mean

497
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Speaker 5: just extending drives, and those are exhausting plays. You cover

498
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Speaker 5: for four or five, six, seven seconds he gets out

499
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Speaker 5: of the pocket, you will chase him down. You ring

500
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Speaker 5: them for a twelve yard game. First down, lineup, and

501
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Speaker 5: now go play against the run again. Like what you

502
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Speaker 5: don't do in training camp is a ninety four yard

503
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Speaker 5: fifteen play drive. You don't practice that. So where's your

504
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Speaker 5: conditioning cardio? Now there's a physical part of being worn

505
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Speaker 5: down in the second half when all of a sudden,

506
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Speaker 5: we hate we score twenty four to ten.

507
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Speaker 3: Here we come.

508
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Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, Like I'm so ground to dirt

509
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Speaker 5: for my first half physically, but also the mental piece

510
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Speaker 5: of we can't stop them on the on the ground.

511
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Speaker 3: I'm such a rube. When we got that touchdown, I'm like,

512
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Speaker 3: all right, let's just here we go. Let's get a stop,

513
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Speaker 3: easy peasy, let's get a stop.

514
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Speaker 2: Let's push it the other way. Suddenly it's a touchdown

515
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Speaker 2: game and we're onto something.

516
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Speaker 5: When you have the weapons that you have offensively, then

517
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Speaker 5: you realize it's just it. Every time we dropped back

518
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Speaker 5: a three step, five step, that there's the time is

519
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 5: just there's just nothing there.

520
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the you know you mentioned just that making time

521
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Speaker 2: with his legs. We saw that with with Jalen Hurts

522
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Speaker 2: as well. Second chance passing. I think it was either

523
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Speaker 2: burst at ror Lever that kind of coined it that way.

524
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Speaker 2: We saw a ton of it last night, and it

525
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Speaker 2: was Metelli's. I almost feel bad for Josh Mittelis. The

526
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Speaker 2: first touchdown for the Eagles opening drive, I believe was

527
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Speaker 2: one of those situations where Mittellis is caught defending AJ

528
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Speaker 2: Brown and it was initially just kind of towards the

529
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Speaker 2: sticks on an out route and Jalen gets to move

530
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Speaker 2: outside the pocket and minute street ball right, he points

531
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Speaker 2: at Aj towards the house and that's where he went

532
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Speaker 2: and it was a score. Then there was one last

533
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Speaker 2: night I forget. I think it was the Harris touchdown.

534
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Speaker 2: Late is you get the initial pressure and Herbert is

535
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Speaker 2: able just to juke in and out. He's bouncing around

536
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Speaker 2: a little bit. Mattelli's is stuck covering another receiver for

537
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Speaker 2: five real time seconds and shocking the receiver was able

538
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Speaker 2: to find his way open and score that touchdown. Man,

539
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Speaker 2: I mean, just is it too simplistic with what you've

540
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Speaker 2: seen for me to just say until this pass rushing

541
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Speaker 2: pros man until I get my money's worth on Hard

542
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Speaker 2: Graven Allen, until Van Ginkle comes back. Our first round

543
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 2: draft pick from a couple of years ago, basically did

544
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Speaker 2: a college style like missile launch at Herbert's head at

545
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Speaker 2: one point, and that's the only time I saw him

546
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Speaker 2: all game. Dallas Turner like, this pass rush is just

547
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: not good enough. Grenard can't do it all by himself.

548
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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, do you think back to.

549
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Speaker 5: The few years I got to play with the Williams

550
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Speaker 5: wall and then just defensive the defensive line pressure wheel

551
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 5: to get him pretty fun with Pat Kevin, you have

552
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Speaker 5: Jared Allen on the outside, Russian Ray Edwards rush and

553
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Speaker 5: Brian Robinson comes in there. When you're able to limit

554
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Speaker 5: teams run game, you know, fifty yards a game, and

555
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Speaker 5: I think we're fifty eight at one point one year.

556
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Speaker 5: When you're able to limit that from a rush to

557
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Speaker 5: cover standpoint, we've now got you in third and eight.

558
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Speaker 3: We know what's coming.

559
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jared's gonna pin his ears back, Kevin Williams gonna

560
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Speaker 5: pind his.

561
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Speaker 3: Ears back and go rush.

562
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Speaker 5: We're gonna bring Everson and Griffin of the off the

563
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Speaker 5: bench and put him in a three technique to rush

564
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Speaker 5: the quarterback. It's pretty fun to sit back and coverage

565
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Speaker 5: in a zone. Now you have to play man coverage

566
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Speaker 5: and just let those guys hunt. And that's the situation

567
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 5: where rush and cover always work together. You want to

568
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Speaker 5: be really good in the back end, have a great

569
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Speaker 5: pass rush. Yeah, you want to be good up front, hey,

570
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 5: and get your pass rush home. We'll have guys that

571
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Speaker 5: can cover in the back end. And with the Zimmer

572
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Speaker 5: teams I was a part of for those three years

573
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Speaker 5: had a really nice combination of being able to play

574
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Speaker 5: and sit in man coverage and have the guys outside

575
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Speaker 5: they could do it so your pass rush could get

576
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Speaker 5: home and win again, sort of the opposite way that

577
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Speaker 5: we had early in my career with Ray and Jared

578
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Speaker 5: and Kevin, Like those guys were getting after it.

579
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Speaker 3: I mean there was time Edwards no Nihle, Yeah, yeah,

580
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Speaker 3: I mean he had some years.

581
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Speaker 5: But you know, when you drove, you get you sit

582
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Speaker 5: back and you cover two little zone that coach Frasier

583
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Speaker 5: at coach Tomlin was playing and by the time you

584
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Speaker 5: get back to your drop, Jared' hitting somebody in the

585
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Speaker 5: back of the head.

586
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Speaker 3: You're like, Okay, this is pretty nice.

587
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Speaker 5: I can cover this guy because it's only three seconds,

588
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, you could play a guy

589
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Speaker 5: like Rogers, and all of a sudden he's rolling out

590
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Speaker 5: of the pocket and back in. O wait till nine

591
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 5: and he's making plays. Now this becomes a lot harder. Now,

592
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Speaker 5: I'm we'll be called plastering. Right quarterback gets out of

593
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 5: the pocket. You're supposed to plaster the nearest receiver, and

594
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 5: I should not be on a receiver. Ever in coverage,

595
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 5: Mattellus has a much better chance than I did. But

596
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Speaker 5: the reality is I'm not going to win that.

597
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: Neither is he. And that's just the situation football gets

598
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Speaker 3: you in.

599
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you this seven seven games

600
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Speaker 2: in and and then we're gonna pause. And then I

601
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Speaker 2: got a couple more Vikings talkers for.

602
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Speaker 3: You, and then we got it.

603
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Speaker 5: We got to hit the game man, Iowa City this weekend.

604
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 5: We just go just tell the old ladies, hey, we're

605
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 5: out of here. We're going to trapping. I heard the

606
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 5: tailgate in experience. Now it is tremendous. It is tremendous.

607
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 5: It is Iowa City on game day as special. The

608
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 5: Gopher fans and Hawkeye fans will get along just fine

609
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 5: before that game in the parking lots, and they can

610
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 5: yelled each other during the game.

611
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Speaker 2: So the so seven games in, talking about identity of

612
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Speaker 2: this team until the court, you know, the the Chargers

613
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: are uber injured at multiple spots. Derwin James I think

614
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 2: left the game at some point. They're they're trotting Joe

615
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Speaker 2: alt Totino, Grace's finest out there, and he's got a

616
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Speaker 2: bad I think he's see they're a foot or and ankle.

617
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Speaker 2: Trey Pipkins Apple Valley up with the Minnesota connections. He's

618
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: like a kid wearing an adult size shoulder pads.

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Speaker 5: Ultimn AULTI man, dude, he's terrific.

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Speaker 3: He's a man, this is and all of that.

621
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Speaker 2: But they got the quarterback situation figured out, which helps

622
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Speaker 2: then guide that identity regardless of what's going on around.

623
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Speaker 3: We need to do that.

624
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Speaker 2: But it kind of feels seven games in, you're still

625
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: getting the penalties. Man, I'm losing track of every single

626
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: kick return. Miles Price runs Finill yards only to have

627
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: to trot the offense back to the twenty The penalties

628
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: mistakes is that kind of the identity of this team

629
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Speaker 2: is the lack of consistency or the lack of identity.

630
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Speaker 5: I don't want to say you're wrong, because I think

631
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Speaker 5: at this point in the season, that's that's what we are.

632
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Speaker 3: Seven games in. This isn't like three games in. Who

633
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 3: are we?

634
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Speaker 5: This is seven games in and right now he keeps

635
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 5: seeing the same stuff over and over and wishing for

636
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 5: a different result. I think if you when you go

637
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 5: back to when the season started, I just said, and

638
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 5: I know I said on the show, is we can

639
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 5: beat you mostultiple ways. We can run the football. We

640
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 5: love our personnel. Our offensive line is rebuilt, restructured to

641
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 5: run the football. We're going to protect this young quarterback.

642
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 5: If he gets stuck in a third and five, he's

643
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 5: going to roll out and beat you with his feet.

644
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

645
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 5: Almost none of those players I mentioned are playing football

646
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 5: right now.

647
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Speaker 3: For us.

648
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 5: Three of the offensive line, we just got the We

649
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 5: just got a running back back, one of the running

650
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 5: backs back. Our quarterback is not the quarterback that we

651
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 5: started the season with. H So that affects it. Defense,

652
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 5: run the pass game, elite pass catchers on the outside.

653
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 5: If you can't give the quarterback time to sit back there.

654
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Speaker 5: And this is not indept on the offensive line. I

655
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Speaker 5: mean injuries are real injuries. I would actually say Carson

656
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 5: has some timing issues and he's been holding onto the ball.

657
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Speaker 5: Decision making has been poor at times as well, but

658
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Speaker 5: the on line's rabbit. Yeah, and again like getting around again,

659
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Speaker 5: what's what's the route concepts that we're looking at to

660
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Speaker 5: get the ball on the hands?

661
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: Quicker?

662
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Speaker 5: Since we know we have issues, are we giving them

663
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Speaker 5: a chance to succeeds?

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Speaker 3: You got to look at that. I'm giving them options

665
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: nearer versus.

666
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Speaker 5: I'm not deep diving this thing. So I've got four kids,

667
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 5: but I'm just telling you right now, like if if

668
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Speaker 5: you look guy that like where three where are the options?

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Speaker 5: Where the options to get the ball out of Carson's hands? Quicker?

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Speaker 5: What's his ree? What's his look? Yeah, if you're giving

671
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Speaker 5: them a five step and we need time, that hasn't happened,

672
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Speaker 5: and he's holding the ball for that reason, that's a problem.

673
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Speaker 5: It is, And we need to go find a matchup

674
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Speaker 5: that we like early, get the ball of his hands,

675
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Speaker 5: one two, boom, get it going, because that's just our

676
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Speaker 5: life right now. And I would beg for a slant

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Speaker 5: and then and then defensively, nobody would have guessed we

678
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Speaker 5: were not gonna be able to stop the run.

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Speaker 3: I did not see that.

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Speaker 5: You trade Harrison Phillips right before the season starts. You're thinking, okay,

681
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Speaker 5: we must be good. Yeah, and now we sit here

682
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Speaker 5: and say I'm not again. You don't know because when

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Speaker 5: you go through training camp, you have the guys in

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Speaker 5: the roster, you say, hey, this is who we have.

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Speaker 3: Run of the season.

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Speaker 5: We got to make the best decision for the organization,

687
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Speaker 5: the money, the whole piece that goes together. But all

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Speaker 5: of a sudden, now that's become a massive issue. We

689
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Speaker 5: can't get off the field because they're constantly in third

690
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Speaker 5: and two's and third and threes rather than third and

691
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Speaker 5: eights and nine, because we can't play in first and

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Speaker 5: second down. And that's just unfortunately truth. So to your point,

693
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Speaker 5: that's sort of who we are. Three and four.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings just get absolutely housed by the Chargers last

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Speaker 3: Welcome back nine to noon. One more segment with Chad Greenway. Man,

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Speaker 3: are you two segments today? Two segments today?

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you doing it, uh, you know, and and

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Speaker 2: I think you're a bit lucky to getting a hangout

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Speaker 2: in studio.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I saw you doing TV last night.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to figure out, like, okay, this this

733
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Speaker 2: thing is just an absolute bleep show.

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Speaker 3: How do you?

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Speaker 2: I think I thought you were you were awesome Box nine,

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Speaker 2: It was dawn, it was rich the gang's all here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, those guys are those guys are like the multi

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Speaker 5: camera with the light where you were pointing the cameras.

739
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Speaker 5: I'm looking over here. You know, we got down reading

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Speaker 5: off the teleprompter. I mean, I'm not losing a step,

741
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Speaker 5: just pros. No, Absolutely, Uh, the how do I how

742
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Speaker 5: do I dig into this?

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Speaker 3: How do you? How do you maintain?

744
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Speaker 2: Because I saw this during fan line and I'm not

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Speaker 2: interested in putting this on the team at this stage,

746
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: but the idea where at one point you just you

747
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: felt like the spirit had been taken a bit with

748
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Speaker 2: what you saw from from the Chargers and just an

749
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: overall outclassed out coached just dominating effort by the Bolts

750
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: last night, and now you get this baby by a

751
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: chance to to recoup a little bit, and you're hoping,

752
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: darisaw On, some of these guys are fully healthy. But

753
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: now turning that around and going to Detroit, like you mentioned,

754
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: this is a great opportunity really to see what this

755
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five team has. Couldn't agree more. And I'm

756
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Speaker 2: also just, even from a coaching standpoint, I know twenty

757
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Speaker 2: twenty three was weird when Kirk popped the Achilles at Lambeau,

758
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: we got the Dobbs thing that didn't work and Jaron Hall,

759
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: et cetera. I do think though, given what was put

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Speaker 2: into this season, that this was the big TOADA coach

761
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Speaker 2: of the year, got the kid raised, he's healthy.

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Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy, I think this.

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Speaker 2: Is the first true adversity that he is seeing at

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Speaker 2: a high level as a coach.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just I don't want this to happen.

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Speaker 2: I want the team to win every game, But now

767
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Speaker 2: I'm really interested to see how Kevin O'Connell specifically handles

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Speaker 2: this moving forward.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's going to be an opportunity for

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Speaker 5: him as a still young football coach, head coach? How

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Speaker 5: does steer the ship here? I mean, where do you

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Speaker 5: go when you all of a sudden have a football

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Speaker 5: team that's struggling. Yeah, you have, you have personnel that

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Speaker 5: just you can't poof, they're coming back, right? What do

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00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 5: you How do you approach it? Who do you lean into?

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Speaker 5: Where are your leaders in in the locker room? What's

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Speaker 5: their response to it? What's your approach at practice next week?

778
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Speaker 5: Like are we going to be bad cop?

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Speaker 3: Good cop? Like? Where are we going with that? Like?

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Speaker 5: What's the accountability level going to be? Two guys who

781
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 5: aren't doing doing things right? Coming down to let's talk

782
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 5: about the penalties. You want to go play penalty free,

783
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 5: turnover free football in Detroit. You'll have a chance to

784
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 5: win that football game almost guaranteed. When you go on

785
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Speaker 5: the road and play clean, you give yourself a shot.

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Speaker 5: I don't care if it's the Chargers last night or

787
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Speaker 5: Detroit in ten days. Like, how do we show that up?

788
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Speaker 5: Because that's a lack of discipline at the end of

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Speaker 5: the day. And I can remember in training camp when

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Speaker 5: we had undisciplined teams, Like we're you know, day ten

791
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Speaker 5: of training camp and everybody's mad at each other and

792
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 5: hates each other, and we can have all these penalties

793
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 5: getting thrown. We're running around goalposts, we're doing things the

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Speaker 5: high school teams do. And it was sort of like

795
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Speaker 5: this idea, like we had a focus. It was a

796
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Speaker 5: lack of focus and attention to detail. That isn't listen

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00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 5: it's it. Yeah, the bright lights Thursday night football. You're

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00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 5: a pro man, like you gotta show up. And again

799
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Speaker 5: I made those mistakes, But what's the accountability within the

800
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 5: team saying that's on me. I have to get better

801
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 5: or they're gonna find a replacement for me, And which

802
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 5: koc is gonna approach? Approach gonna be like that, cause

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Speaker 5: if you can just start simply there, play clean, turnover free,

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00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 5: like when the win to go out of the sales

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Speaker 5: last night, Carson Wentz interception in the overthrow on the

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Speaker 5: over route, so that was basically, okay, game's over here,

807
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 5: we go right and what an awful throw. But again,

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00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 5: that was an awful throw. We can all admit to

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00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 5: that one. But the reality is when you go in

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Speaker 5: that environment, it's all hands on deck. We're the underdog

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Speaker 5: in this case in Detroit, we are the underdog. Oh yeah, like,

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Speaker 5: let's lean into that and that's okay, right, let's go

813
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 5: over and play our style of football.

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00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: What is that?

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Speaker 5: Well, this week we're gonna be this football team and

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Speaker 5: we're gonna go in Detroit. They're a physical team, They're

817
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 5: a physical out there. We're gonna go punch him in

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Speaker 5: the mouth and we're gonna run the football and we're

819
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Speaker 5: gonna do it this way, and we're gonna play free football,

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00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 5: no penalties, take care of the ball.

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Speaker 3: I mean, start there, start there.

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Speaker 2: No, I like that, And it's just, you know, so

823
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: much has been talked about in terms of the culture

824
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Speaker 2: of this team, and just I mean, you couldn't get

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00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: a bigger contrast right into this thing from Zim at

826
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Speaker 2: the very end, Zimmer was never necessarily the most loving

827
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Speaker 2: and friendly, cuddly person that ever existed, but at the

828
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: end grumpy wow. So you get that contrast there. But now, like,

829
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: culture isn't really tested with victories and cool speeches in

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00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: the locker room and things like that. Culture is really

831
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Speaker 2: tested during moments like this. So in ten days being

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Speaker 2: able to turn it around, I.

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Speaker 5: Was thinking from a schematic standpoint, just to clamp on

834
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 5: you there, simplicity, go back to fundamental football, go back

835
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 5: to simple and see if you can accomplish simple, over

836
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 5: and over and over again consistently.

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Speaker 2: I keep getting these text messages.

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Speaker 3: Apparently what we do wrong.

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Speaker 2: Well, audio was used into the Thursday night football pregame

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00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: last night, so during like their opening package on Prime,

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00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 2: and at first, like I felt so that we had

842
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: like a camera crew that came to Egan to film

843
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: PA doing the radio show.

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Speaker 3: It's part of this video cut up.

845
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Speaker 2: They do like this kind of time lapse up to

846
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: the game and what they're saying, and Chargers had lost

847
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: three or four. What's going on with this thing? Do

848
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: we get the run game going with the doll et cetera?

849
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: Can we get healthy? And but they ended up not

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00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: using the PA video and it was just a video,

851
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: an audio clip of me going, we got to hit

852
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: our freaking receiver.

853
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: I need my quarterback to hit the open guys. So

854
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 3: I had no idea that that was happening. And now

855
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding, somebody please clip that out. I'm just

856
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: getting some text messages.

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00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: But but then I heard it and it was just like, well,

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Speaker 2: they kind of make me sound just like an angry rube,

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00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: which I guess yeah, guilty as charged. I mean, ripping

860
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: that from fan line. I'm just yeah, I was. I

861
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: was frustrated.

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Speaker 5: It's okay to expect your quarterback to make that throw.

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00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 5: It's okay your if you expect that linebacker to make

864
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 5: that tackle, because that's job, that's what he does, especially

865
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 5: when it looks so fundamental and so elementary for these guys.

866
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 5: And you know, you look at that throat and say,

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00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 5: that was not a hard throw. He was not under pressure.

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00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 5: There was really nothing there. He just airmailed it. And

869
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 5: it's just the reality we're in right now.

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Speaker 3: Boys.

871
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 5: So hey, lick your wounds, you move on, you fly back.

872
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 5: I don't care about your red eye you pull. Hey, listen,

873
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 5: come on, you get the pants back going tomorrow.

874
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: And you go to work.

875
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: Monch Paley, who's going to work on Saturdays and tomorrow

876
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: at two thirty. You know, I'm going to get into

877
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: this more with Burnsey, but but really, the way the

878
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: Big Ten is constructed, Iowa had the chance to win

879
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 2: the West for a while, just to have the great honor.

880
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 3: Of getting smacked. That was fun number those days.

881
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ohio State and Michigan dropping sixty on you guys

882
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: in the in the conference title game. And now with

883
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: the new construction very top heavy, right, and Iowa and

884
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: Minnesota I think respectively, would be in kind of that

885
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 2: upper middling spot within the big tent where you know,

886
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: we can get ourselves to eight nine wins and talk

887
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 2: about bowl games and such, but really, as of now,

888
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: it's just not realistic from a playoff perspective, So rivalry

889
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 2: games matter, right, And from a Gophers side of things,

890
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: you know, you like what we're doing in Nebraska all

891
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: the time. I think it's five or six in a

892
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 2: row with PJ. Who doesn't like that one? Oh, it's beautiful.

893
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: We can we can all be on on board with that.

894
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: We may have just sent Matt Rule to Penn State

895
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: after what we did to Dylan Rayola and the whole

896
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes cosplay thing that's going on down there.

897
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 5: I have a hard time and a lot of opinion

898
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 5: on that we can't talk about here.

899
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: But it's crazy. His dad is like an all time lion.

900
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dominic Rayola was terrific in the NFL, absolute stunning

901
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: and a pretty good Husker as well. But we don't

902
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: like the Huskers, so we don't like that. But but

903
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: Gophers beating up on, beating up on Nebraska.

904
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

905
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: I think it's three of the last four or something

906
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 2: like that in terms of the acts this pig, though,

907
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: this pig has been a problem.

908
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: This pig has been a looser.

909
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: This pig is PJ running around in a mud pen

910
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: trying to catch this squealer. He can't ever catch it

911
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: save four. Of course, you know Cooper dejen he must

912
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: have up. Yeah, Cooper Gene messed up and the the

913
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: twelve ten thriller a couple of.

914
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: Years ago at Kinnick. Yep, what do you think?

915
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: You know?

916
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 3: Ten thousand foot view of the hawkeys that got the kid.

917
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: I think the South Dakota kid came down. Yep, that's

918
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: just you that hasn't really put it up through the

919
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: air quite yet. Maybe is what is expected. But he's

920
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: using his legs, you got. I think it's Molten or

921
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 2: somebody else. There's a running back. That's pretty you guys

922
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: always have a running back. Yeah, there's falling out of

923
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: your pockets. The defense is pretty good. What do you think?

924
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 3: Yeah?

925
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 5: I mean, I think the reason this has been a

926
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 5: harder get for PJ to in a rivalry series because

927
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 5: it hasn't been maybe we've won eight out of ten

928
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 5: something like that. Something that range is because of our

929
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 5: style of play. You're nine and one in your last

930
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 5: ten against Okay, so nine in one, So I think

931
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 5: I can't remember. I was four ander against the Gophers

932
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 5: back in the day. The Maroni Barber bit, the Maroni

933
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 5: Barber bit man. That line was good though. That zone

934
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 5: blocking scheme I hit the way back machine. That zone

935
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 5: blocking scheme the nearly two thousands that the Gophers had

936
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 5: was high level. And then you put Maroni and Barber

937
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 5: back there.

938
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: It was.

939
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 5: That was a sweet tand I think they ran for

940
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 5: three hundred on us in the Metrodome and we won

941
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 5: because they missed a field goal at the end.

942
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: Really was my junior year.

943
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 5: But like we couldn't stop them, and we were like

944
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 5: a top five defense in the country. That's how good

945
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 5: they were. But with this, when you've been to playing

946
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 5: an Iowa team, the way we win, especially these last

947
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 5: five to ten years, is you just we don't again

948
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 5: talking about our vikings, we just don't make a lot

949
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 5: of mistakes. So you're not gonna you know, you don't

950
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 5: want to have a lot of penalties. You want to

951
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 5: take care of the football. You want to create turnovers

952
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 5: on defense and try to score on defense special teams.

953
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 5: Sometimes that's the only way we can score. And I

954
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 5: think when you go play clean football, you become a

955
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 5: really hard team to beat. And I tell the story

956
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 5: all the time. Four years in Iowa City, I think

957
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 5: we played like three defenses the entire four years. We

958
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 5: just lined up and played. I mean, the reality was

959
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 5: that we were gonna line up and do something very

960
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 5: very simple. And you can scheme us all you want,

961
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 5: and then what you want to do is you want

962
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 5: to go out and just make the plays that come

963
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 5: at you and be simple and be physical to line

964
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 5: the scrimmage. And we would always say our whole saying

965
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 5: time was there was impose your will on people over

966
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 5: and over and over and over again until somebody wilt.

967
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 5: And that was our mentality. And there's a lot of

968
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 5: that same mentality Niwa City.

969
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: Now.

970
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 5: I think what Pj's built here is is a team

971
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 5: built on that. And the reason the Gopher fans are

972
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 5: excited and should be, is because you have a really

973
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 5: talented young quarterback. You have a really big offensive line

974
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 5: that's been playing well, you have a running game, your

975
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 5: defense is good and this is a good football team,

976
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 5: and I think this game you kind of have teams

977
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 5: that are at the exact same point. Is how is

978
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 5: this season going to go? Is this going to be

979
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 5: an eight, nine, ten win season? This is a good

980
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 5: pivot point for both This is it and and it's

981
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 5: in you know Pj's looking for this. Can I go

982
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 5: on the road and get a win and get in

983
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 5: Kinnick Stadium? Which we know is how hard that is?

984
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: That would be? That would be tough. They're nine and

985
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: a half point dogs. What yeah? I what hamm are

986
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 3: the under on that?

987
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 8: Well?

988
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: See it's the total. I mean, this is crazy. Thirty

989
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: nine and a half. We have to score ten points.

990
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: That means at least is the total. And they were

991
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 2: nine in the we're your nine and a half point favorites,

992
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: So you got to win by ten.

993
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: That shocks with a thirty nine and a half total.

994
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: Like you look back at.

995
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 5: This series, you look back at this series last five,

996
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 5: they've been a lot of tight football games.

997
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but our team just can't hasn't been able

998
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: to score down there. Yeah, and that's that's really been

999
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: the crux of it.

1000
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 5: Last I checked, we don't score much either, So the

1001
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 5: fact that we're even nine point favorite. It's insane. You

1002
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 5: know it's gonna be I'm excited, obviously. I'm hawkeys all

1003
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 5: day long. Love that program, love that place and the

1004
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 5: people that are still there from when I was there,

1005
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 5: when I entered college in two thousand and one, so

1006
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 5: many great faces that are still there. It's gonna be

1007
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 5: a really good football game and expected to be a

1008
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 5: true rivalry game.

1009
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 3: That's sweet.

1010
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: Man, Hey, anything good with Gray Duck before we part way? Man,

1011
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: everything's good at Great Dock. Come you kidding me?

1012
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 5: You know, we've been leaning into really hard, this this

1013
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 5: idea that we are. So we're so local from the

1014
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 5: start to finish. Where we buy our corn, where we

1015
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 5: buy our juice, where we haven't made in Burnsville, all

1016
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 5: Minnesota owned, and we want folks to lean into that.

1017
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 5: We have so many supporters, so we're pushing hard against

1018
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 5: folks that are out there buying products that aren't from Minnesota, because.

1019
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: We produce a high, high level product.

1020
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 5: Our vodka, salt and everything else we're producing Minnesota, Minnesota

1021
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 5: and it's all good. And so we ask people to

1022
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 5: go into the store, walk past that aisle with the

1023
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 5: Texas made vodka and go by yourself some greay duck

1024
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 5: and then you know, first of all, go to yourself

1025
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 5: as side by side taste test. And then when we win,

1026
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 5: go by gray duck year after year or day after day.

1027
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: How about that? I dig that. That's great duck.

1028
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: That's Chad Greenway at Chad Greenway.

1029
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: Five two via X. Thanks as always, brother, you bet,

1030
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: thank you, thank you.

1031
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: When we return, I got some talkbacks that I want

1032
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: to fire through from you the listeners. Ten am, we'll

1033
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: get back into Go for Football with Ryan Burns to

1034
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: go for Illustrated PA will be in studio at eleven o'clock.

1035
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: It's Nordo in for PA for now nine to noon

1036
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: on the fan.

1037
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 9: Heyno Max Meigan here. I said this team was average yesterday.

1038
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 9: I think I was being very generous. Problems awful offensive line.

1039
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: Holy cow.

1040
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 9: I don't know how you can play offensive line your

1041
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 9: entire football career and be that bad. You get a

1042
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 9: rep every single snap and you look that terrible. If

1043
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 9: we really think we're gonna put J. J. McCarthy in

1044
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 9: this game against the Lions with Hutchinson, Anzaloney, Jack Campbell

1045
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 9: running at him, he's going to be Pulp, We're not

1046
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 9: going to have a quarterback. He's going to be decimated

1047
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 9: by the end of that game. See you later, you know, Max, I.

1048
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 3: Tend to.

1049
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: The injuries, the in and out all of this. The

1050
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: offensive line has absolutely left us desiring more. The thing

1051
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: we were talking about on fan line last night, and

1052
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 2: I kind of it bears repeating here is the kids

1053
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 2: got to play and the circumstance of the offensive line,

1054
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: whether it's Darrisaw he's unable to go. Oh, Donovan Jackson,

1055
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: who I think will has been so far very good

1056
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: and will be a home run draft pick for the

1057
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings.

1058
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: He showed his warts last night.

1059
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 2: And the thing at center, I mean, you bring in,

1060
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: you get rid of Garrett Bradbury, best of luck to

1061
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: him in New England, and you feel good about Ryan

1062
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 2: Kelly as a veteran option and the concussions, so now

1063
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: he is on IR and maybe.

1064
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: His season's done.

1065
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: I mean that's, you know, the way we kind of

1066
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 2: frame it up, like real life may be more important

1067
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: to be considering right now than playing the game. Making

1068
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: sure you know the marbles are in the right spot upstairs.

1069
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: Will Fryes just been okay, recovering from injury, and then

1070
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: O'Neil's been in and out. It's not good enough. I

1071
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: agree with you. However, the kids got to play. The

1072
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: quarterback in there right now suffering maybe from bad o

1073
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: line play. The quarterback has suffered from being off timing.

1074
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: The quarterback in there right now has suffered, of course,

1075
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: from from the shoulder ailment, which I mean was It

1076
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,959
Speaker 2: seems like that has reached maybe its zenith of pain

1077
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 2: level with him just unable to raise his own freaking

1078
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: arm in the midst of a game. How's that impacting

1079
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: the accuracy that I've been really frustrated with over the

1080
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. It has to play into to

1081
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: it to some degree. Are the ribs? Are the other

1082
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: issues that we don't even know about with that quarterback

1083
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: holding out of the ball too long, The decision making

1084
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: hasn't been good, The accuracy has been a problem, throwing

1085
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: it to the other team. All those things kind of

1086
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: factor in I keep you know, it's hey, it's third

1087
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: and short. You know what was the coach the coach

1088
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 2: last night something during the during the presser, he didn't

1089
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: he wanted to establish the run, but he was worried

1090
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: about you know, getting stuck in a third and long. Well,

1091
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 2: you had a third and one at your forty one.

1092
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 2: You had a third and two at the forty seven.

1093
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: You passed both times. So that just that that that

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00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: that statement isn't really kind of passing the test in

1095
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: terms of the issue with with not establishing the run.

1096
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: Are you worried about running because the offensive line isn't

1097
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 2: going to move guys back? Well, are you worried about

1098
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: passing because your quarterback's getting hammered all the time? Still

1099
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: seeing some five step drops and some deeper developing routes.

1100
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 2: Haven't found a slant in like four weeks. There's a

1101
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: lot that goes into that, specifically with the offensive line,

1102
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: but feeling you max in terms of the old line

1103
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: needing to be so much better than what we've seen.

1104
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: But the kids got to play, and Carson Wentz says,

1105
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 2: in some ways served as a sacrificial lamb, and frankly,

1106
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: he's falling apart, and just for humanity's sake, because he's

1107
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: not going to take himself out, maybe we need to

1108
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: save him from himself.

1109
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 8: Good morning, Norto and Chad Mike from Tampa. Hey, all

1110
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 8: injuries aside, we laid an egg. Yeah, but I think

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00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 8: that this loss was a leadership loss. AOC absolutely was

1112
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 8: out coached last night. The fact that he'd kept Carson,

1113
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 8: she wentz in and a guy could barely move his

1114
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 8: arm was pathetic. I love KOC, but he screwed up

1115
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 8: last night, and.

1116
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 5: I think that there needs to be some accountability on

1117
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 5: his part, and he's to hold himself account Yeah.

1118
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: He mentioned last night he didn't he didn't have his

1119
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: team prepared to play, and I would say at this stage,

1120
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: him vocalizing that is probably the most amount of accountability

1121
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 2: that you're going to hear from from him or any

1122
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: head coach, not not even Kevin O'Connell specifically. The we

1123
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: covered it earlier with Chad, but really just to kind

1124
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: of re emphasize, and it's, you know, we'll play another

1125
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: talkback here momentarily. That's kind of pointing in the same direction.

1126
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: On that third and two, we pass it balls, bat

1127
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: it up in the air, Carson has to bat.

1128
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 3: It down, maybe to keep it.

1129
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: You know, who knows, fat guy interception They're rare, but

1130
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: they can happen. Big guys in the middle with good hands,

1131
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 2: you never know. So Carson bats it down. He can't

1132
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: move his left arm, he's holding his elbow and he

1133
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: is I mean, he's just an agony. That's where the

1134
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: experiment needed to end. Not because I don't like Carson,

1135
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: not because I don't appreciate the seven oh one go

1136
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: buys in Big One this weekend. I don't think you've

1137
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: won down in Sodak in a while.

1138
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: Maybe you'll do it this weekend.

1139
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: Best to luck, but not think I'm rooting against Carson.

1140
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: The guy has given everything he has. He's a freaking

1141
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: iron man. But it needed it needed to be done there,

1142
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: and it should have been, in my opinion, should have

1143
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: been Brozmer for the remainder of the game. Another talkback, Hey.

1144
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 3: Nordo Jake from Shockby here.

1145
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 10: My question is about Kevin O'Connell's inability to make in

1146
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 10: game adjustments.

1147
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't run the ball ever.

1148
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 10: Third and one, Instead of giving us to Jordan Mason

1149
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 10: to pick up one yard, he lines up our best

1150
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 10: receiver at running back, takes our back up injured quarterback.

1151
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 10: Play action, rollout, and surprise, surprise, it's incomplete.

1152
00:50:58,800 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1153
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: The the again establishing and we've seen it in the

1154
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: Eagles game, trying to get the run game moving. It

1155
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: was such a nice drive and in the third quarter,

1156
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: sadly it stalls out in the red zone. But those

1157
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: outside runs you saw from Jordan Mason there and establishing

1158
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: the runs again the third and short is are things

1159
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 2: getting over complicated in some of those spots and the

1160
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 2: play action, the rollouts extending the time that Carson is

1161
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: holding out of the ball, not just him holding onto

1162
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: the ball too long, but the spots that we are

1163
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 2: putting in. Putting them in from an offensive perspective, problematic

1164
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: to say the least. I got so many more talkbacks,

1165
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: but keep them, keep them firing. Here six four six

1166
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: eighty six is the Bradshawn Brian KFA and text line

1167
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: and then the free iHeartRadio app. You hit that microphone,

1168
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 2: give us up to your best thirty seconds. But around

1169
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: the corner, I want to bring in Ryan Burns as

1170
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: we deviate from the purple momentarily and chat about Floyda

1171
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: Rosedale the Pigs on the line tomorrow in Iowa City.

1172
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: Last time the.

1173
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: Gophers were there, they were victorious. Can they make DJ

1174
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: make it two in a row?

1175
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 3: Why not?

1176
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: The ten point dogs almost on the road. Kinnick's a

1177
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: tough place to play. They bring in a QB who

1178
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: they think could throw the ball. Still can't throw the ball,

1179
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 2: but they can run the heck out of the ball.

1180
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: Our defense just put a fat l on Roola and

1181
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: the Huskers. Can they repeat that performance? Ryan Burns go

1182
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: for Illustrated. We're gonna chat about all of that as

1183
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: the second hour gets kicked off nine to noon on

1184
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Speaker 2: the Fan,