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Speaker 1: And now the show is happy to bring you or

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Speaker 1: I have some respectors. Midweek melt down.

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Speaker 2: Week melt down? All right, are you melting down about

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Speaker 2: pseudo fed or like? What are we going on? And

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Speaker 2: help me? Okay, well that's why I thought you might

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Speaker 2: melt on them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, clean at home.

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Speaker 2: We don't have tissues. We don't have tissues. I use

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Speaker 2: a giant toilet paper all I just carried around. That's

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Speaker 2: not true. He's too cheap to buy tissues. Well you're

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Speaker 2: wasting toilet paper. What's the difference giant thing from Costco

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Speaker 2: last forever? Oh God, what a scene. I know. But no,

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Speaker 2: it's not about being sick. Okay. I like to switch

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Speaker 2: up my rants from time to time.

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Speaker 3: I don't always like to do a certain topic or

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Speaker 3: you know, I like to switch them up because things.

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Speaker 2: That's whatever bothers you, right, but a lot of things

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Speaker 2: bother me. Oh, we know everything. We know.

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Speaker 3: There's something that happened recently that actually just got passed

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Speaker 3: yesterday that's approved for ballot. And I'm talking about a

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Speaker 3: proposed measure by the San Diego City Council to tax

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Speaker 3: empty second homes in San Diego. Oh now, so listen

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Speaker 3: the bill was passed, which I am.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you how I feel about that in a second.

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Speaker 2: And it's approved for ballots, so we'll be voting on

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Speaker 2: it in November. Right now. What does it mean?

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Speaker 3: The new proposal applies only the second homes in the

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Speaker 3: city of San Diego that property owners choose to keep

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Speaker 3: vacant for at least half the year. And that's about

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Speaker 3: five hundred and fifteen homes. And they say five thousand

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Speaker 3: of those are owned by individuals, forty three are corporate owned,

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Speaker 3: and most of them are in wealthy areas like downtown

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Speaker 3: San Diego, Go TB, and Point Lo. A lot of

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Speaker 3: snowbirds do that exactly, or people that only want to

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Speaker 3: rent it out, you know at certain times of the

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Speaker 3: year one hundred percent, yea or agon that I know.

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Speaker 2: I know, but I'm saying this is what rich people do.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, you're right. So that being said, what are

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Speaker 3: we talking here? The proposed tax would be eight grand

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Speaker 3: on each empty second home in twenty twenty seven, oh,

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Speaker 3: on top of the property tax that really it could

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Speaker 3: be almost at twenty grand right then ten and twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: It goes up each year, goes up with inflation.

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Speaker 3: So when you start thinking about it, is this great

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Speaker 3: for our budget that.

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Speaker 2: We're always in short, we have a shortfall?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you would, Now, so you start thinking, is gonna

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Speaker 3: love this attack the rich?

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Speaker 2: Because people would call me the Robin Hood of San Diego.

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Speaker 2: Nobody say, ever in their right.

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Speaker 3: Mind, call you the Robinhood of San Diego?

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Speaker 2: Sare you that is the most insane thing you've ever said?

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Speaker 2: That's crazy? Anyway would call me that. He loves that too,

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Speaker 2: So we think that I'd be all for this.

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Speaker 3: But that being said, I also believe in the United

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Speaker 3: States Constitution, and this, to me is an outrage at

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Speaker 3: the highest level, at the highest level. First of all,

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Speaker 3: we're already being taxed a property tax for the property.

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Speaker 2: That we own, and we have no.

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Speaker 3: Control over how much it's being taxed. Mine went up

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Speaker 3: again like one hundred and fifty dollars.

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Speaker 2: For no reason.

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Speaker 3: So now if you own it, just because you're well

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Speaker 3: off and you own a second home, they're going to

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Speaker 3: bend you over and make you take it and charge

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Speaker 3: you more money.

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Speaker 2: How is that constitutionally legal?

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Speaker 3: Now? Because now the government is telling me, hey, you

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Speaker 3: own this, but we're gonna now tell you what you

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Speaker 3: need to do with it. And I know what you're

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Speaker 3: saying yourself. Who's the dufus that brought this up to

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Speaker 3: San Diego City Council?

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Speaker 2: Anyway? Tell you what else, I'll tell you who the

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Speaker 3: I don't know the same dufis, the same dufis that

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Speaker 2: It is the same.

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Speaker 3: No, it is Jean Elver.

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Speaker 2: You brought him. I've heard this man's name before. You

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Speaker 2: fis who acts like I didn't do the bi park

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Speaker 2: acting like it wasn't my idea, this is what we wanted,

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Speaker 2: but it was. Now he's bringing this up again, and

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Speaker 2: this is his reasoning? What oh his reasoning is?

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Speaker 3: He can't continue to listen to San Diegan's tell us

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Speaker 3: just a quote, by the way, tell stories about working

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Speaker 3: two or three or four jobs, doubling up in homes,

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Speaker 3: delay and delaying the star of their families, while knowing

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Speaker 3: there's five thy one hundred homes just sitting there empty.

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Speaker 2: It's not okay.

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Speaker 3: As if these families that worked three or four jobs afford.

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Speaker 2: These homes to begin with, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe does he men like to rent them to them?

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Speaker 2: You know how much rent would be on these homes. Well,

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Speaker 2: there's a homeless situation, you know that we have here

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Speaker 2: in San Diego. So maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to make sense of it, like get giddy

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Speaker 3: talking about what's even worse, says.

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Speaker 2: Talking about the robin Hood of San Diego.

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Speaker 3: Why this is even worse because the initial bill wasn't

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Speaker 3: just to tax these empty homes, it was also to

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Speaker 3: hit him where it really hurts, to attack vacation rentals,

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Speaker 3: so airbnbs and who does Airbnb's people that need a

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Speaker 3: second source of income that he's talking about, maybe if

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Speaker 3: maybe you have a second home that was given to

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Speaker 3: you by a family member, maybe you own a condo.

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Speaker 3: He wanted to tax those people, but that got knocked out. Okay,

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Speaker 3: a rat, I'm telling you, if you see this on

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Speaker 3: your bollot, deny it.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: It sucks that these homes and you walk on Mission

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Speaker 3: Beach and they're empty and you're like, nobody's there.

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Speaker 2: It sucks, But.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, you cannot we cannot

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Speaker 3: let the government tell us what to do with our homes.

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Speaker 2: This is insane.

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Speaker 3: It's up to me if I don't want to rent it.

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Speaker 3: It's up to me if I don't want anyone there.

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Speaker 3: Screw you, Screw you, Rivera.

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Speaker 2: This isn't Is this Nazi Germany? Or is it san Die?

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Speaker 2: Was that on the ballot in Nazi Germany? Yeah? Have been.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Tyler brand, I don't think you did.

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Speaker 2: I don't really don't think you did. So let me

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Speaker 2: just say this.

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Speaker 3: I know what you're thinking before. What this couldn't have

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Speaker 3: came up out of thin air. They clearly did this

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Speaker 2: First, and they did Edward Edward Edward.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two. San Francisco, that's a real well run city.

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Speaker 3: They said we're gonna do the empty home.

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Speaker 2: Tax, and it passed twenty two.

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Speaker 3: They said, if you had an empty home that was

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Speaker 3: empty for one hundred and eighty two days, you were

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Speaker 3: going to be taxed a certain amount of money.

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Speaker 2: But guess what happened a few years later. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to tell you what happened later. He's so kidding.

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Speaker 3: A Superior Superior Court judge said, guys, that's unconstitutional and unenforceable.

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Speaker 2: So in October twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Four, they shut it down, so all that time and

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Speaker 2: Because it's unconstitutional.

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Speaker 4: Have you told Ravera that this doesn't stop inviting politicians

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Speaker 4: onto our show? It always does this. It seems like

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Speaker 4: discrimination if we're charging people a fee different than just

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Speaker 4: other people.

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Speaker 2: You got a great call, Scuy. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: We are discriminating against the rich exactly. I have no

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Speaker 2: problem with me. Neither he probably did.

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Speaker 3: And there's a I guess Berkeley did another thing that

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Speaker 3: I'm not informed about that kind of passed, so I

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Speaker 3: got I gotta look more into that. Either way, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter. This is so stupid and this is just

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Speaker 3: another way for politicians to make more money. Because you know,

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, what if you want

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Speaker 3: the short budget shortfall to end, cut pensions and cut

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Speaker 3: jobs that the gun.

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Speaker 2: But what you need to do. Listen, let me ask

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Speaker 2: you a question of the robin Hood of San Diego,

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Speaker 2: because you're not saying to not tax the rich, right, No,

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Speaker 2: like we we still need to do that. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: just think that anyone that owns you shouldn't be penalized

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Speaker 2: for your success. And it's because because if I own

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Speaker 2: another home.

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Speaker 3: Whoa you too home?

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Speaker 2: Well, then you don't know another. I own a home.

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Speaker 2: It's an ocean side. I rented out.

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Speaker 3: What if they decide, you know, an ocean side to

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Speaker 3: go anyone that rents, anyone that has renters, We're going

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Speaker 3: to tax double just because it's not fair that you

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Speaker 3: have renters and these people don't. And ocean side has

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Speaker 3: a budget short. Say, don't tell me what I can

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Speaker 3: and can't do with the house that I own. What

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Speaker 3: are you gonna tell me next? What I can can't

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Speaker 3: dress like when I walk around. We're all gonna have

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Speaker 3: We're all gonna have patches, you know, the stars, letting

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Speaker 3: everyone know.

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Speaker 2: Can you going back to Nazis help me out here?

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Speaker 4: Well, I get what you're saying, but the Nazi Germany compared.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that. This is where I don't know. Okay,

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Speaker 2: well this is crazy. It is crazy.

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Speaker 3: So I'm telling you come November. If this passes, it's

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Speaker 3: just the government taking more rights.

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Speaker 2: Don't do it. People, I know, on the surface, you're like,

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Speaker 2: oh good, we're gonna taxed rich, But don't I don't

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Speaker 2: know tax rich. We're not. You're next. Thank you? Wow,

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Speaker 2: damn gentlemen the robin Hood of San Diego. I would

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Speaker 2: say I mean nobody. Nobody can say