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Speaker 1: couple hours seven to five the return of Tom Zawastowski

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Speaker 1: from We the People Convention dot org. You know, there

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Speaker 1: is a constitutional amendment that's being circulated, and it's called

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Speaker 1: the United States Citizens Vote Amendment, which seeks to mend

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Speaker 1: bottom line is this issue has ninety percent support. Vast

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Speaker 1: Would it get passed? With the Democrats scream out loud

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Speaker 1: over to seven point thirty following Tom Zawastowski, The Return

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Speaker 1: of Sarah Herringer, the widow of Patrick Herringer, refreshing your recollection,

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Speaker 1: In other words, angle monitor time. That's a period of

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Speaker 1: breit Barton News the return of Tech editor Colin Maydine

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Speaker 1: doing to Empower You seminar tonight about technology and AI. Hmm,

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Speaker 1: Over the weekend, this was the red line that Donald

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Speaker 1: Maybe I can't get it later. Another asymmetrical twenty first

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Speaker 1: If the Iranian regime, in whatever remnants it has left,

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Speaker 1: explosion of the Texas oil refinery cause unknown. Be right back.

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Speaker 1: Not to preread my weather report, Joe, probably a good idea, huh,

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Speaker 1: explosion reported a Texas refinery. It's a pretty big one,

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Speaker 1: it's not doing that now. It blew up yesterday. Emergency

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Speaker 4: Correct? Correct, it's the same as like people showing up

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Speaker 1: to you Tom z Austowski about the well United States

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Speaker 1: citizen vote constitutional amendment. We'll go into the details on that.

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Speaker 1: night trade, a chemical used to make explosives, were found

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Speaker 1: in the debris of the abandoned building beside the ancient

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Speaker 1: Roman aqueduct. On Friday. Police said the pair were supporters

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Speaker 1: of some guy named Alfredo Cospido, described as he jailed

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Speaker 1: figurehead of a loosely organized anarchist network called the Informal

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Speaker 1: Anarchist Federation. Now they split us from the Formal Anarchist Federation. Joe,

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Speaker 1: are you keeping tabs on them? That Caspiito guy is

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Speaker 1: serving a twenty year prison sentence for a series of

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Speaker 1: parcel bombs in attacks targeting Italian authorities. Idiots doing idiot things,

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Speaker 1: because then it is exactly well, they aren't with us anymore.

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Speaker 1: Cautionary tale for bomb makers out in the world to

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Speaker 1: see what Jay's got this morning, Jay, thanks for calling.

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Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday to you, sir, Hey, Happy.

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Speaker 5: Tasty, Brian Hey, one of my favorite lines is don't

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Speaker 5: vote Rhino. And uh, you know, I've been thinking about

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Speaker 5: this upcoming primary election and here's our chance, listening, audience,

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Speaker 5: we have Keith.

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Speaker 3: We have Keith.

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Speaker 5: Faber, Dave Yos, Frank LeRose, Robert Praig.

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Speaker 4: Mike the Wine.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: They they have been running this state. We are not

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Speaker 5: in great shape. We are like maybe mediocre at best

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Speaker 5: when compared to the fifty states, last in Medicaid fraud,

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Speaker 5: like worst case economic development is not good. Here's my question.

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Speaker 5: Do we really believe that Faber, who's auditor, is uniquely

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Speaker 5: forqualified to go from an auditor position where he failed,

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Speaker 5: in my opinion, to pick up on any medicaid frauduct

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Speaker 5: he can go to Attorney General. Dave Yost was going

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Speaker 5: to go for governor until Ohio Communist Central Committee back

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Speaker 5: from Aswami Laro's Secretary of State. He's uniquely qualified. They

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Speaker 5: could do all these jobs. They could be a mechanical

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Speaker 5: plumber he's going to be he wants to run for auditor,

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Speaker 5: and then Craig who's treasurer. He wants to become secretary

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Speaker 5: of State. Uh, these must be super human people, just

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Speaker 5: like a mechanic that wants to now become an eye

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Speaker 5: doctor and an eye doctor who's going to become a

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Speaker 5: concrete leg You know, it doesn't work that way in

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Speaker 5: the real world. There ought to be something on the

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Speaker 5: resume that says you can do this. What I would

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Speaker 5: tell the listening audience is, here's our chance. Show up

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Speaker 5: at the Mary whatever, Ohio Central Committee. Whoever they're backing,

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Speaker 5: go the other direction. And you know when I heard

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Speaker 5: your interview with Prague and versus Marcel Sturbage, it was

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Speaker 5: night and day talk about how well.

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Speaker 1: You kind of your your cell phone connections kind of

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Speaker 1: gone weird on sideways on me there? Jay, can you

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Speaker 1: repeat the last sentence?

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Speaker 5: So can you hear me? Now?

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Speaker 1: Now? I can that last parts came in through?

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Speaker 3: There?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead?

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Speaker 5: When I listened to Prague, when you interviewed him versus

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Speaker 5: Marcel Sturbage. To me, it was night and day that

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Speaker 5: Sturbage is the better candidate. When when Prague is talking

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Speaker 5: about what a fantastic job he has done as treasurer,

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Speaker 5: as the guy who's watching over the financials, uh, the

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Speaker 5: finances of the state of Ohio.

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Speaker 4: Uh, he needs to go.

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Speaker 5: I would say, all of these people need to go

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Speaker 5: and make room for for a new blood coming in.

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Speaker 5: But we are not in financial uh great shape here

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Speaker 5: in Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: So I've encourage the listeners go back, take a listen

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Speaker 5: to a podcast. You did a great job of interviewing

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Speaker 5: both of them. And also what concerns me is you

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Speaker 5: know Service talked about how the Ohio Central Committee got

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Speaker 5: a hold of him and said, why don't you drop

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Speaker 5: out and we'll give you a nice job in the

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Speaker 5: Secretary of State's office and you can just wait your turn.

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Speaker 5: Sounds the same thing like Tom Zawastowski got the same

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Speaker 5: sort of treatment when he said that the Ohio Central

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Speaker 5: Committee was having all Central Committee members put your signatures

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Speaker 5: down on paper so that Central Committee could figure out

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Speaker 5: who who would vote for Tom Zawastowski.

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Speaker 6: This Ohio Central.

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Speaker 5: Committee needs to be defeated.

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Speaker 3: They need to go away.

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Speaker 5: So don't vote Rhino when you show up for the

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Speaker 5: primaries if you're a Republican in Ohio conservative, and do

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Speaker 5: the opposite of what the shadow people in Ohio Central

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Speaker 5: Committee wants you to do. They gave us eight years

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Speaker 5: of Kasik, eight years of the wine they you know,

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Speaker 5: think about first Energy and Houston being part of that. Houston,

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Speaker 5: who's now a damaged candidate backed by the Central Committee,

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Speaker 5: who is behind and we're going to get I'm scared

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Speaker 5: to death. We're going to get shared brown back.

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Speaker 4: That's what Ohio.

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Speaker 5: Central Committee has given us. So don't vote Rhino. Show

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Speaker 5: up and vote at the primary.

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Speaker 4: Do the opposite of Central Committee.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Brian, I appreciate your call. Jay, as far as

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Speaker 1: you know, the ability to be to hold any given

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Speaker 1: elected position, a lot of folks clamoring for outsiders. It's

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Speaker 1: one of the vogue things going on. We don't like,

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Speaker 1: for example, his comments, but you know, these same people

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Speaker 1: over and over again, they get name recognition and of

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Speaker 1: course they run then on experience. Well, that was the

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Speaker 1: one thing I asked Robert Sprague during the interview on

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Speaker 1: the program about Marcel Stirvige, What what do you have

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Speaker 1: against them? I see, I hear what you're having to say.

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Speaker 1: Your policies sound good, but they don't. This not verbatim

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Speaker 1: the way I said it, but they don't sound really

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Speaker 1: much difference than what Marcel Sturbridge is saying. And Marcel

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Speaker 1: Sturbrige does come across as a really great yeah politician,

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Speaker 1: or may makes a great argument. He's articulate, he knows

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Speaker 1: the issues, he's got conviction. It just comes through loud

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Speaker 1: and clear in my recollection of Sprigu's responsible. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the experience? Well where does one get the experience?

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Speaker 1: And is being experienced in one office? Does that carry

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Speaker 1: over into a completely different office, which sounds me like

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Speaker 1: was Jay's point. I don't necessarily think that it does.

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Speaker 1: But really, what experience does any person need to run

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Speaker 1: in any elected capacity? Everybody's got to start out at

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Speaker 1: square one in some position. Usually it starts out as

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Speaker 1: like local trustee, and then you work your way up there.

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Speaker 1: So it is being local trustee qualify you for secretary

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Speaker 1: of state? For example? I can't make that argument by

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Speaker 1: forty seven right now? Forty five K see the talk

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Speaker 1: station more stupid or phone calls coming up. You're right

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Speaker 1: back fifty five the talk station got a hop station,

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Speaker 1: God fifty one. If you do have kcit de talk

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Speaker 1: station in a happy Tuesday over the stack is stupid.

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Speaker 1: Joe cueue it up. Got an award to give out.

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Speaker 1: This person has a extra special hot place in Hell.

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Speaker 1: A guy who was contracted to perform music for members

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Speaker 1: of an elderly care facility. I think of my father

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Speaker 1: Tim Goldrenners out there, the eleait singer for the Menus.

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Speaker 1: He does his shows at Alzheimer's facilities. My dad love

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Speaker 1: to hear him performing. God blessed Tim Goldrann for doing that.

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Speaker 1: Gave my dad a lot of happiness in his Alzheimer's years.

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Speaker 1: So that kind of guy. No, this is not implicating

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Speaker 1: or even suggesting Tim Goldrenner would do anything like this anyway.

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Speaker 1: So this pervert in an elderly care facility, he has

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Speaker 1: been charged with rape. Surveillance footage caught him taking off

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Speaker 1: his clothes in a patient room. This his name, Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Michael Alvarado Award winner today stripped down naked in the

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Speaker 1: sixty one year old room inside a Los Angeles facility

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Speaker 1: where she had lived for several years after yes being

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Speaker 1: diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease. Later in the video, he's seen

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Speaker 1: throwing a condom in the trash can after getting and

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Speaker 1: getting addressed. Her daughter, Camille Anderson, had installed cameras to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on her ailing mom. So I just

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Speaker 1: saw the man sitting on the bed, bending over, tying

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Speaker 1: his shoes, and then he was walking out and she

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Speaker 1: was just left on her bed nude. Immediately she called

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Speaker 1: the police. He was charged with two felonies rape and

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Speaker 1: elder abuse, reportedly a volunteer piano player at the facility.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five million dollar lawsuit fought against the owners of

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Speaker 1: La Palm's Lamarada, where the incident occurred, say the June tenth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five assault was captured in hole or in

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Speaker 1: part by surveillance, video and or audio evidence. The assaults

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Speaker 1: were not random, unavoidable events. They were enabled by failures

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Speaker 1: and access control, screening, supervision, monitoring, reporting, escalation, resident protection,

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Speaker 1: police enforcement, and compliance with the obligations the defendants undertook

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Speaker 1: in connection with the plane residency. The facility, in response, said,

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Speaker 1: the safety and well being of our residents is our

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Speaker 1: top priority. We are disturbed by these allegations and will

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Speaker 1: fully cooperate in a criminal investigation. Special place in Hell

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Speaker 1: for Jonathan Michael Alvarado are Award winner this.

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Speaker 7: Morning, EERI is the biggest douche of the universe, in

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Speaker 7: all the galaxies. There's no bigger douche than you. You've

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Speaker 7: reached the top, the pinnacle of douche them good going

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Speaker 7: dou Your dreams.

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Speaker 1: Have come true. Day arguing over restaurant tab that's a

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Speaker 1: stabbing incident. Fight over who should pay for brunch sparked

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Speaker 1: what is described as a terrifying slashing in downtown Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles at some sort of Huha restaurant, all female group

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Speaker 1: of diners dans settling the check at this place called Zaya,

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Speaker 1: five pm on a Sunday, argument broke out about who's

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Speaker 1: going to pay. One woman then suddenly brandished a knife,

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Speaker 1: and another lady, I guess, clutched a bottle. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's broken or not. You can see the

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Speaker 1: standoff unfold a fight. It got worse and the women

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Speaker 1: started slashing each other. Witnesses called police in the Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles Fire Department. Two women arrested charge with AsSalt with

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Speaker 1: a deadly weapon. Four victims, all between the ages of

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Speaker 1: twenty six and thirty seven, taking a local hospital for treatment.

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Speaker 1: One woman, who suffered cuts to her face, refused medical

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Speaker 1: treatment at the scene and left the restaurant on her own.

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Speaker 1: The suspect fled the restaurant with a folding knife, ran

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Speaker 1: down Seventh Street and at Grand Avenue. Guess the suspect

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Speaker 1: is still at large. Cat fight. Joe, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Sound advice that can be applied regularly in multiple events

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Speaker 1: throughout your lifety five coming up with fifty six so

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Speaker 1: you can stick around plenty to talk about in the

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Speaker 1: six o'clock hour, plus what is winning in Iran so

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Speaker 1: we can talk about in advance of the Daniel Davis

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Speaker 1: Deep Dive coming up at eight thirty this morning. I

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Speaker 1: hope you can stick around the iHeartRadio app where we

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Speaker 1: put meat back gar see he talks station Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: right here. Glad to be hope you're having a good morning.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Joe Strecker, the executive producer, for doing what

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Speaker 1: you do and stick around folks this morning. Tom's Awastowski.

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Speaker 1: We have put people convention in one hour from now.

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Speaker 1: The importance of this new constitutional amendment that's being circulated.

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Speaker 1: The United States Citizens Vote Amendment, basically a ninety percent

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Speaker 1: issue for everybody already wants people only citizens to vote,

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Speaker 1: and this is what the constitutional amendment would ensure. So

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Speaker 1: we'll get the details from Tom in an hour, follow

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Speaker 1: by Sarah Herringer. The return of Sarah, the widow of

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Speaker 1: Patrick Herringer, and the name behind a bill that's being

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Speaker 1: sponsored in Columbus which she's going to be testifying in

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Speaker 1: support of today, that Patrick Herringer Act. And she's also

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Speaker 1: got a new podcast she wants to let you know

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Speaker 1: about it, and I can't wait to have her on

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Speaker 1: the show to help those who are going through the

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Speaker 1: loss of a loved one, much in the same way

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Speaker 1: she didn't remember her husband's murderer was released and he's

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Speaker 1: supposed to be under ankle monitoring, cut his ankle monitor

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Speaker 1: off into February and then chose to stab Patrick Herringer

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Speaker 1: to death in their home in June, so several months

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Speaker 1: with no indication at least that's what the local authorities

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Speaker 1: are saying. We didn't know he was out. We didn't

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Speaker 1: know he's out. Well, this bill is supposed to fix

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Speaker 1: that anyway. God bless Sarah for doing the work she's

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Speaker 1: doing and her help to others in need struggling with

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Speaker 1: that loss of a loved one. She'll be on at

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Speaker 1: seven thirty. Inside scoop of bright Bart News Today, tech

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Speaker 1: editor Colin Maydine returns to the program about his Empower

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Speaker 1: You seminite, about our seminar that is taking place tonight

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Speaker 1: at seven pm Empower Youoamerica dot org about artificial intelligence

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Speaker 1: and also the ways that so maybe the Republican and

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Speaker 1: Conservative movement can harness it to their advantage. That's an

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Speaker 1: eighty PHO five fall by the Daniel Davis Deep Dive. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we will be talking about Iran and speaking of Iran.

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Speaker 1: You know again, I acknowledge standing on the shoulder of giants.

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Speaker 1: But Gerard Baker did a really good analysis of this

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Speaker 1: and it's it really is an important thing to take

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Speaker 1: into account his observations, which are very accurate. He writes.

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Speaker 1: When an Irish Republican Army bomber came within a few

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Speaker 1: feet of assassinating Margaret Thatcher in a hotel room in Brighton,

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Speaker 1: England back in nineteen eighty four, the terrorist group acknowledged

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Speaker 1: the attempt with an official statement. Today we were unlucky.

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Speaker 1: It sent in a declaration addressed directly to the British

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Speaker 1: Prime Minister. But remember we only have to be lucky once,

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Speaker 1: You have to be lucky every time. Blood chilling and

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Speaker 1: callous's language was the bomb killed five members of the

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Speaker 1: governing Conservative Party. The boast was a brutally accurate meditation

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Speaker 1: on the nature of asymmetric warfare. In conflicts between two

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Speaker 1: sides that are unmatched militarily, such as wars by terrorists

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Speaker 1: against states, the combatants have very different objectives, methods, and tactics. Typically,

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Speaker 1: the weaker side has a much lower bar for success

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Speaker 1: than the stronger one. It needs only to quote unquote

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Speaker 1: get lucky every now and then to undermine the resolve

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Speaker 1: and weaken the defense of the stronger party. Terrorist nations

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Speaker 1: fight asymmetrically too, so less than the US, which with

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Speaker 1: its unrivaled military power, only ever fights asymmetric wars in

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Speaker 1: the twenty first century, should have learned by now, but

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Speaker 1: as the war in Iran continues, it seems that we

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Speaker 1: are again relearning as we go. The fundamental asymmetry is

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Speaker 1: this Iran, like earlier enemies, can't and doesn't need to

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Speaker 1: beat the overwhelmingly superior forces of the US and Israel

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Speaker 1: in a straight fight, It can instead exploit the imbalance,

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Speaker 1: turning difference in tactics and goals to its own advantage.

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Speaker 1: In the first few weeks of the war, we've seen

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Speaker 1: how Iran has managed tactical and material inferiority to some effect,

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Speaker 1: even as its major military capabilities have been all but

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Speaker 1: wiped out. It has shored up its defense through the

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Speaker 1: agile use of cheap drones, minds, and other devices. But

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Speaker 1: there are at least three elements of strategic asymmetry that

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Speaker 1: Iran is also exploiting. The pain threshold is the most obvious.

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Speaker 1: In three weeks, Iran has suffered massive human and economic loss,

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Speaker 1: seen its supreme leader in half of its top government

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Speaker 1: and military officials, eliminated, sunk deeper into the loathing of

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Speaker 1: its own people, and alienated almost all of its neighbors,

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Speaker 1: but immune from public accountability. The remaining Mulla's message seems

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Speaker 1: to be my center is giving way, my right is retreating.

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Speaker 1: Situation excellent, I attack. That's a reference to a World

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Speaker 1: War One French marshal statement. On our side, we've lost

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Speaker 1: thirteen service members in the fight. Every loss a tragedy.

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Speaker 1: But this is by any measure, a massively lopsided contest.

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Speaker 1: But here's your pain threshold. Gasoline approaching four dollars a gallon,

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Speaker 1: Interest rates have nudged up fifty bases points. Opinion polls

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Speaker 1: our polls are disapproving. The pain threshold seems to have

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Speaker 1: been passed already. The Iranians know this. They notice when,

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Speaker 1: at the first sign of political and economic distress, President

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Speaker 1: Trump's leaps to declare the war nearly one and close

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Speaker 1: to winding down. The second asymmetry is that of targets.

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Speaker 1: We emphasize our success in obliterating Iran's nuclear capabilities, its

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Speaker 1: missiles and other assets, and a blitzkrieg a pirateechnics. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: how many times, by the way, do we get to

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Speaker 1: obliterate the same thing? Gerard Baker interjects, Iran needs only

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Speaker 1: a narrowly targeted objective with which it can hold its

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Speaker 1: enemy hostage. Think of it as a form of leverage,

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Speaker 1: almost like a financial transaction. For a small outlay, iranqan

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Speaker 1: secure and outsize return. The obvious example is, of course,

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Speaker 1: the ability to close to close the straight offoor moves

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Speaker 1: and paralyze world to trade with the threat that a

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Speaker 1: few tankers will be blown up by mines or drunes.

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Speaker 1: Attacking Gulf states another relatively low cost activity that produces

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Speaker 1: large scale havoc energy crisis. We find ourselves in most

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Speaker 1: of all. The endgame, as in other recent wars, is asymmetric.

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Speaker 1: The US in Israel at times seem to have different ideas,

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Speaker 1: but they appear to agree that victory will involve at

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Speaker 1: least the wholesale degradation of Iran's offensive capabilities. For Iran

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Speaker 1: survival will be enough. In other words, Iran can achieve

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Speaker 1: its own version of success even as we achieve ours,

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Speaker 1: a non zero sum outcome at the outset of this conflict,

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Speaker 1: I Gerard Baker his op ed piece, I'm acknowledging that

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Speaker 1: express cautious optimism that the US Israeli operation could achieve

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Speaker 1: its objectives. It surely still can, but it's also become

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Speaker 1: clear that the two sides are fighting on wholly different terrains.

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Speaker 1: The likeliest outcome looks like a hostile regime still in

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Speaker 1: place in Tehran, albeit heavily damaged, but ready to rebuild

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Speaker 1: its capabilities and to remain illoming threats to stability and security,

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Speaker 1: while we in Israel must make cointain a costly and

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Speaker 1: constant vigilance. Of course, that would be required going into

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Speaker 1: the future. What are the remaining Mulla's going to do

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Speaker 1: with Iran? Which direction will they go? Will they play

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Speaker 1: nicely and fairly or will they go back down that

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Speaker 1: radical fundamentalist road and continue to be a source of

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Speaker 1: terrorist funding and other nefarious activities in the Middle East?

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Speaker 1: Great question to ask. We currently don't know how, We

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Speaker 1: don't even know who's running Iran. That's the crazy thing

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Speaker 1: I talked about this morning. You read a headline, you

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Speaker 1: know Donald Trump is having constructive talks with Iran. Iron

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Speaker 1: releases a memo saying, no, they're not even talking with us. Well,

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Speaker 1: the concern with that, or the problem with that, is

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Speaker 1: they do have a supreme leader that's been named, and

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Speaker 1: they claim nobody's talking to that guy. Yet that guy

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Speaker 1: hasn't popped out of whatever hole he was buried in

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Speaker 1: when he got bombed. Everybody thinks he's dead. He's the

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Speaker 1: cardboard cutout moa. Trump's not talking with that guy, say

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Speaker 1: the Iranians, Fine, but he's talking with someone. And Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump even acknowledge this. The man who he claims is

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Speaker 1: the biggest kahuna in Iran. Apparently who's Donald Trump's talking about,

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Speaker 1: but he didn't name whoever that might be. Anyway, back

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Speaker 1: to Gerard, the ultimate asymmetry is in the different meanings

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Speaker 1: for the two sides of not losing this war for America.

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Speaker 1: However much we may claim otherwise, not losing is a

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Speaker 1: defeat in a strict sense. We didn't lose the wars

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Speaker 1: in Iraq and Afghanistan, but we didn't win them either.

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Speaker 1: The damaged to US prestige in the world, to the

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Speaker 1: public's trust and government, to the willingness of the American

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Speaker 1: people to tolerate the burdens of war for inconclusive outcomes

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Speaker 1: was so great that not losing was a defeat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't look look back with much pride on the

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Speaker 1: whole what decade plus antics in Afghanistan, and of course

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Speaker 1: the pullout was a tragic, tragic outcome for our weaker enemies.

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Speaker 1: He concludes, not losing is winning for us. How much

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Speaker 1: longer can we go on merely not lose? Excellent rhetorical

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Speaker 1: point there at the end there Gerard Baker read for yourself,

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Speaker 1: and there's a corollary argument from Walter Russell mead the

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Speaker 1: great op ed piece Hawks and Doves got Iran wrong,

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Speaker 1: and just pulling out one paragraph of that, the Trump

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Speaker 1: derangement syndrome is a large factor in all this. I'm

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Speaker 1: using words that he did not use, but feel free

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Speaker 1: to read Walter Russell means op ed in which he says,

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Speaker 1: so here we are, despite military successes by air and

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Speaker 1: see Israel in the US have so far been unable

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Speaker 1: to keep the golf open or protect golf states from

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Speaker 1: Iranian attacks. Domestically, Democrats are mostly locked into opposing a

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Speaker 1: war that many Doves think the president could and should

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Speaker 1: have avoided. A conviction among many grassroots Democrats that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump poses a greater threat to America than the surviving

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Speaker 1: members of the Iranian molocracy strengthens that opposition. It also

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Speaker 1: raises the costs for democratic politicians seeking to rally around

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Speaker 1: the flag against Iran. Have you heard any of them

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Speaker 1: do that yet? International there's your corollary domestically and internationally,

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Speaker 1: So Democrats are a problem with Trump arrangement syndrome here

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Speaker 1: and internationally. Allied recognition that American forces are defending a

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Speaker 1: vital waterway on which their economies depend that's the they

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Speaker 1: should be in favor of US intervention and siding with us.

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Speaker 1: That element struggles with public distaste for the American President

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Speaker 1: and doubts about his will and ability to win. So

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Speaker 1: you've got the United States hopefully bringing about global economic

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Speaker 1: stability if in fact the Iranian regime is undermined and

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Speaker 1: torn away and left with something more stabilizing in the

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Speaker 1: region that benefits the whole world. But we can't grasp

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Speaker 1: onto that and advocate for that platform very much because

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Speaker 1: evil Orange Man. Welcome to the world in which we

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Speaker 1: find ourselves. Comments feel free to make them. I'd love

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Speaker 1: to hear from you. It's six sixteen right now. If

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Speaker 1: you have Karsenite talk station fifty five K deep talk station.

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Speaker 1: If you have Karsene talk station, Happy Tuesday. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go to the phones right now. Jamie's on the phone, Jamie,

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Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.

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Speaker 8: Morning Brian, thank you. Different topics for me this morning.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're not going to talk about your Montessori school, Jamie, Am.

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Speaker 8: I going to talk about school choice today? I heard

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Speaker 8: you talking about the Secretary of State race and I

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Speaker 8: attended a fundraiser a couple of weeks ago for Marcel Serbic,

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Speaker 8: and I was extremely impressed him. It was a pretty

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Speaker 8: small event. He answered tons of questions. He's a straight shooter, yes,

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Speaker 8: a strong man, of military background and just no nonsense.

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Speaker 8: I think he would be amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, when I've I've talked to him a

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Speaker 1: couple of times, met in face to face. He was

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Speaker 1: in studio for the live interview. You know, my impression

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Speaker 1: in the back of my mind was, you know, what,

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Speaker 1: if I'm going to end up in a firefight with somebody,

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Speaker 1: I want this guy in my trench. You know, he

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Speaker 1: exhibits a confidence, He exudes confidence. He is just strong

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Speaker 1: on any issue. Ask him a question. He's kind of

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Speaker 1: a firm you know, born of firm conviction, answer for it,

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Speaker 1: and just an impressive guy. I don't think we're going

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Speaker 1: to be ill served by either Sprague or Sturbage, but man,

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Speaker 1: you cannot argue against Sturbridge is coming across as a

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Speaker 1: really really strong candidate and a committed man.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think I mean, I'm sort of new

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Speaker 8: in politics with my husband, you know, in the last

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Speaker 8: probably eight years, and Secretary of State is not really

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Speaker 8: anything I paid too much attention to, but it's definitely

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Speaker 8: an important position, especially when it comes to voting integrity,

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Speaker 8: which we are in the thick of that right now.

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Speaker 8: So I just encourage people show up to meetings, show

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Speaker 8: up to places where you can learn about candidates and

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Speaker 8: get involved. I mean that isn't exactly local. It's our state,

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Speaker 8: but your local townships. It's super important for the people

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Speaker 8: to show up for these.

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Speaker 5: Kind of races.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it sure is, Jamie, and it's and school choice

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Speaker 1: is really important too, because you have options out there

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Speaker 1: in the world where your children get a better education.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Jamie's Monasory School. There's a plug for you. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate when she chimes in on that topic too. Marcel

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Speaker 1: Sturbadge you can find them on high A Sturbage st

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Speaker 1: R b I C H four f O r ohio

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Speaker 1: dot com. Go back in the podcast pages and listen

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Speaker 1: to my discussion with him, but also my discussion with

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Speaker 1: Robert Sprague, and make an informed decision, please and real quickly.

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Speaker 1: In the May moment, there were many moments of time

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Speaker 1: we have in this segment before we get the local

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Speaker 1: stories or additional phone calls, which aren't always quite welcome.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to Steve, who's listening live from Germany. He says,

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Speaker 1: still living large. He says, a picture of one of

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Speaker 1: out of town with the iHeartMedia. It's just I just

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Speaker 1: think it's so cool. So good morning, Steve, and I

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Speaker 1: know you're coming back late later in the week. Safe

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Speaker 1: travels to you in your better half. Six twenty five

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Speaker 1: first Wednesday of the month, as is tradition, going to

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Speaker 1: be a place called Liberty Collective, Liberty Township, Liberty Collective.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a commune, but it's not. It's like

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Speaker 1: I can't remember how many restaurants are in any I

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Speaker 1: want to call it a food court, but I don't

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Speaker 1: want to risk sounding that. It looks like a food court.

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Speaker 1: It's its own independent building inside of which are multiple

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Speaker 1: different restaurants, so you can choose whatever you want to

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Speaker 1: have for listener Lunch and then enjoy the fellowship right

879
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: there in the room. So Liberty Collective. We'll put the

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Speaker 1: information up on my Facebook page, but see if you

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Speaker 1: can put it down on your calendar for next Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to that as I always am great fellowship

883
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: at listener lunch. Let's see you got a few local

884
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Speaker 1: stories we dive on into in the absence of phone calls,

885
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: which there are federal firearms indictments. That's right when you

886
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: can't get your local county prosecutors to go after a

887
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: hardcore criminals, people with weapons under disability which means it's

888
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: not supposed to have one. Hey, the law says you

889
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: can have one while I'm doing it anyway. So if

890
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: you got woke prosecutors and woke judges and we don't

891
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: hold people accountable, like, for example, the man who murdered

892
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Speaker 1: Sarah Herringers's husband Sarah joining the program in one hour,

893
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: maybe the Feds need to step in. That seems to

894
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: me the what's going on here in the greater Cincinnati area.

895
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Speaker 1: Federal state local law enforcement official announce yesterday that nine

896
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Speaker 1: additional cases involving violations of the federal firearms law have

897
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Speaker 1: been presented. Nine defendants arrested on charges that were indicted

898
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Speaker 1: by a federal grand jury on March fourth, US Attorney

899
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Speaker 1: Dominic Graci, the second making the announcement the nine indictments

900
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Speaker 1: announced by Gracy yesterday, in addition to three high profile

901
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 1: federal indictments shakiel Ferguson for the October twenty twenty five

902
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Speaker 1: Fountain Square shooting and Frenique Cobb and Derrek Long for

903
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Speaker 1: the mass shooting at Riverfront Live March first. In the release,

904
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Speaker 1: shortly after becoming US Attorney, I still with our federal, state,

905
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: and local law enforcement partners in Cincinnati and promised the

906
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: public that we would aggressively prosecute federal firearms cases and

907
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: see cars penalties for repeat violent offenders caught with guns.

908
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Speaker 1: These nine cases, along with prosecutions of individuals allegedly responsible

909
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Speaker 1: for the shootings on Fountain Square and Riverfront Live, highlight

910
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Speaker 1: our continuing determination to make good on that promise. Nine

911
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Speaker 1: defendants Austin Page arrested as part of the violence crime

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Speaker 1: Reduction initiative, which included Ohio State Patrol since Saint Police Bureau, Alcohol,

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Speaker 1: tobacco and firearms, explosives and other partner agencies. I do

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Speaker 1: believe Police Chief Fiji, before she was placed on administrative leave,

915
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Speaker 1: was the one behind this coordinated law enforcement activity.

916
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Speaker 3: Huh.

917
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Speaker 1: Elected officials downtown going into the direction they weren't real

918
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Speaker 1: thrilled about that bad optics or something. They seem to

919
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: be embracing the concept now shocking anyway, Page passenger of

920
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: the vehicle that fled from law enforcement Page ran and

921
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Speaker 1: tossed the handgun, taking it a cuss the after an

922
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Speaker 1: officer used as taser. He had prior weapons and aggravated

923
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Speaker 1: robbery convictions and had another gun with him when he

924
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Speaker 1: was searched. Number two, eighteen year old Roderick Meacham White

925
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Speaker 1: and nineteen year old Adrian Hardy each possessed a gun

926
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Speaker 1: with a glock switch converted that firearm in to a

927
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Speaker 1: fully automatic weapon. Machine gun can't do that. Polo Alexander

928
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Speaker 1: charged with previously charged with convicted of robbery with a

929
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Speaker 1: gun specification, was found in possession of a firearm in

930
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Speaker 1: October of last year. Of course, he was Austin Fowler

931
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Speaker 1: previous convictions for aggravator robbery, drug possession, drug traffick, the

932
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Speaker 1: gang and yes, weapons under disability. Guess what right? He

933
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Speaker 1: was found with a firearm in November of last year,

934
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Speaker 1: Lamont go lightly, which is hilarious when you're going to

935
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Speaker 1: be in front of a judge and subject to a conviction,

936
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Speaker 1: go lightly. Previous convictions for drug trafficking, receiving stolen property,

937
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Speaker 1: found with a gun January fourteenth, Natthew, You see a

938
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Speaker 1: trend going on here. Matthew mac multiple state convictions for

939
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Speaker 1: trafficking heroin found with a loaded stolen gun in his

940
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Speaker 1: pants during a traffic stop on Central Parkway, Wreca, Shelton.

941
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Speaker 1: Multiple prior convictions for domestic violence and drug trafficking was

942
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Speaker 1: a was as well as a conviction for robbery. Found

943
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Speaker 1: with a firearm January thirteenth, then finally named Warren. Previous

944
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Speaker 1: convictions for loonious assault in Burgley, found with a gun

945
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Speaker 1: November of twenty twenty five. Now possessing a firearm or

946
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Speaker 1: ammunition while the convicted felon that can net you fifteen

947
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Speaker 1: years in prison. Possessing an unregistered firearm or a machine gun.

948
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Speaker 1: You glock switch folks out there, potential penalties of up

949
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Speaker 1: to ten years in prison. Is it really worth it?

950
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Speaker 1: I am no fan. Price ammunition alone makes me never

951
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: really want a fully automatic weapon. Lord almighty, Yeah, you

952
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: can go through a magazine in less than a second.

953
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: Set you back in fifteen twenty thirty dollars or more.

954
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Speaker 1: Nutcle a way Finny to talk about coming out first

955
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Speaker 1: Eve Tuesday. Yeah, that the announcement about is nine federal

956
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 1: prosecutor federal indictments, gun charges and the announcing announcing of this,

957
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: this celebration of the collaboration between local city law enforcement

958
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Speaker 1: and all the other entities they work with, and they're

959
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: all celebrating and talking about how great it is. Well,

960
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: wait a second, and thank you to Signal ninety nine.

961
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Speaker 1: She has been on the program many times, and of

962
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Speaker 1: course she is a prolific writer and exposer of what

963
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: I like to call shenanigans on the morning show. Go

964
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: to Signal ninety nine on Facebook and follow what she

965
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: has to say, like yesterday on this very issue, reminding

966
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Speaker 1: us that Police Chief Fiji did exactly what they're now

967
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: taking credit for before she got terminated or before she

968
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: got placed on administrative lea for literally no reason. So

969
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 1: she reminds everyone last September, since the police department Thiji

970
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: Police Chief did exactly what every city claims they want.

971
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: She picked up the phone, brought a agencies together, sat

972
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: down with the governor, built a coordinated plan to go

973
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 1: after violent crime the right way, multi agency intelligence driven

974
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: and a unified effort. No press conference, not a sound bite,

975
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: actual work. People were brought to the table, Relationships were built,

976
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 1: resources were aligned, Wheels were already in motion. And while

977
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Speaker 1: that was happening, she wasn't just talking about progress, she

978
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: was delivering it. Drone detection technology brought into play because

979
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: knowing what's in our airspace matters. Working functionally, collaborating with

980
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: the FOP, non performative, not forced, working, state of the

981
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 1: art gun range because training is an optional at survival,

982
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: real initiatives, real infrastructure, and real leadership. And what happened next, Yeah,

983
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 1: she got spanged for it, publicly criticized by city leadership

984
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: for not asking permission to do her job, as if

985
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: violent crime requires a permission slip, as if collaboration is

986
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: somehow rogue behavior instead of just the standard, then like clockwork,

987
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: she's placed on leave sacrifice to save the mayor and

988
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: city council's reelection. You don't need a political science degree

989
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: to understand the timing. Independent external investigation ensued. That's the

990
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: law firm they hired, with six months of silence and

991
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: investigation extensions. How much time do you need to try

992
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: and dig up a valid reason to terminate someone with

993
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: thirty five years and an exemplary record. There you go

994
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 1: with a great rhetorical question. Seven ninety nine. Fast forward

995
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: to today, now suddenly standing in front of cameras telling

996
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: the media that working hand in hand with other agencies

997
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: is essential to combat violent crime. That's a quote. Essential.

998
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: That's the word now, Not unauthorized, not premature, not out

999
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: of line, essential, same strategy, same collaboration, same concept that

1000
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: was apparently so problematic just months ago. It's now being

1001
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: sold as great leadership. Amazing how that works even better

1002
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: that carefully limited little arrangement we were told was the plan.

1003
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: Remember two days a month with outside agencies, traffic enforcement

1004
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: from Ohio State Patrol only traffic enforcement, nothing too aggressive,

1005
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: nothing too visible. That's gone, though, quietly replaced with exactly

1006
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: what was already being built before it became politically inconvenience.

1007
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: So let's just state it plainly. Wright Signal ninety nine.

1008
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: They didn't change the strategy, they changed the credit. Chief

1009
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: DG was already having CGIC pivot and fusion, collaborating with

1010
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: the federal prosecutors atf HSI to have them prosecute serious

1011
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: criminal offenders federally, thus bypassing the ineffect of Hamilton County

1012
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: prosecutor and judges who continually to refuse to do their

1013
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: jobs correctly. Apparently it's a lot easier to stand at

1014
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: a podium and praise success than it is to stand

1015
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: behind the person who created it when it actually mattered.

1016
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: Please Chief DG. And here's the part they're hoping nobody connects.

1017
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: People now taking bows for a quote unquote collaboration of

1018
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: the same ones who resist it, restricted it, and ultimately

1019
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: removed the chief who pushed it forward, not because it

1020
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: didn't work, because it didn't fit the moment. And that's

1021
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: the problem. Violent crime doesn't care about election cycles or

1022
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: optics or pandering, or who gets to stand in front

1023
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: of the cameras and take credit for the work that

1024
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: they did not do. It cares about whether the job

1025
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: gets done. It was getting done, at least until it

1026
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: wasn't convenient anymore. As I stare out of my aftermath

1027
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: of November election chart with all the blue and the

1028
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: overwhelming re election of aftab per of all and the

1029
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: same men members of council sometimes eighty five to one

1030
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: hundred percent in any jurisdiction. That's me back over to

1031
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: signal ninety nine, She concludes with, Hey, elections really do

1032
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: have consequences, and we just adore out today city leaders

1033
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: step forward to take all the credit, blust their hearts. Meanwhile,

1034
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: no word on what exactly led to the removal of

1035
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: Police Chiefdiji from her office. Still have my popcorn out

1036
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: on that one three seven, four nine, fifty eight hundred

1037
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Speaker 1: eight two three talk station. It's six fifty here fifty

1038
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: five KR City talk station. Try to have appy tusday.

1039
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: Hope you're not traveling TSA backup. Still being a problem,

1040
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: but maybe they're going to resolve it. According to reports,

1041
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: current discussions of course between Chucky Schumer and others senators

1042
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: on getting the government back open. Apparently the current plan

1043
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: restore funding for all of Department of Homeland Security, with

1044
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: the exception of Immigrations and Customs Enforcement ICE, the wing

1045
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: of ICE that carries out the immigrant arrest and deportations.

1046
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: That's called the enforcement and removal operations. Now under this

1047
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: alleged deal or potential deal, funding will be restored to

1048
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: ICE's other primary functions, that's homeland security investigation. So you

1049
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: got this little l or some portion of ICE that

1050
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: deals with the actual interactions with the arrest and that

1051
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: homeland security investigations apparently looks into complex international crimes drugs, muggling,

1052
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: human trafficking. All good thing to be funded, I would argue.

1053
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: So the deal would apparently require ICE to make some

1054
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: additional changes like wearing body cameras, and I don't think

1055
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: anybody has any problem with that anymore, And a matter

1056
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: of fact, I think most officers will embrace that, displaying

1057
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: identification for officers, as well as some additional training. Not

1058
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: clear at this point whether the deal would address democrats

1059
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: corp demands prohibiting agents wearing masks, banning the practice of

1060
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: forced entry without a judicial warrant. Senator Coons, along with

1061
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: his other fellow Democrats, say they expect an offer on

1062
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: paper from Republicans by today. Now, don't worry about ICE,

1063
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: because remember the great, big, beautiful bill. They have seventy

1064
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: five billion dollars for ICE. Which apparently can fund ICE

1065
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: collectively for years even if Congress doesn't pass new appropriate

1066
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: so the agents out on the front line are still

1067
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: funded under the larger umbrel of ICE funding seventy five billion.

1068
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: That's plenty. But the only problem is this sounds like, well, okay,

1069
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the thing going. ICE is still funded.

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Speaker 1: They're still going to do their immigration operations. We'll get

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Speaker 1: the airports back open and then start paying the TSA agents.

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Speaker 1: Trump rejected a similar approach earlier, though he insisted, now

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Speaker 1: you recall this, maybe you do. He insisted the lawmaker's

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Speaker 1: past not only a complete DHS package, but also merge

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Speaker 1: it with the Save America Act as the new voter

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Speaker 1: eligibility rules. Trump said, I'm trying. I'm tying homeland security

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Speaker 1: into voter identification. I'm requesting that the Republican senators do that.

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Speaker 1: He immediately, don't worry about Easter going home. In fact,

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Speaker 1: make this one for Jesus.

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Speaker 2: An.

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Speaker 1: Right over to Tomtoon, who's got to deal with the

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Speaker 1: muck and workout resolution with the other senators, said, I

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Speaker 1: think you all know that's not realistic. In other words,

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Speaker 1: putting save in with the funding of DHS that ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Bottom line is, Juckie Schumer is not going

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Speaker 1: to capitulate to that. Spokesman for Schumer said he didn't

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Speaker 1: know what Trump was talking about, at least in so

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Speaker 1: far as Trump's reference to speaking with him and the

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Speaker 1: floor speech. Schumer said Trump was trying to sabotage negotiations

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Speaker 1: by demanding talks stop entirely until Congress passes the Save Act,

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Speaker 1: a bill that has nothing to do with paying TSA workers. Well,

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Speaker 1: you have a good point there, Chuck, But have you

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Speaker 1: ever seen a clean bill that deals with only one

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Speaker 1: subject matter? Right? No, they use these things at every

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Speaker 1: opportunity to package up a whole bunch of things to

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Speaker 1: get a bunch done at one vote. Apparently, if Congress

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Speaker 1: does an integree on d DHS funding by March twenty

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Speaker 1: seventh and leaves for the scheduled two week recess, oh

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Speaker 1: my god. How insulting is that to those not getting

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Speaker 1: a paycheck? I? Well, yeah, add to those working a paycheck.

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Speaker 1: I guess you're right. Show anyway, TSA officers said to

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Speaker 1: miss more than one month of paychecks, and again with

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Speaker 1: starting salary of fifty grand, you understand why more and

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Speaker 1: more of them are not showing up at work, and

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Speaker 1: of course why Donald Trump said ICE in much of

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Speaker 1: the chagrin of Democrats taking a bit of the sting

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Speaker 1: out of airport congestion. Airport congestion pain, unnecessary pain brought

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Speaker 1: down on the American people because of ICE frontline operations

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Speaker 1: in enforcing the laws that are on the books. That's

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Speaker 1: the other thing. Where did all this anger come from?

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Speaker 1: It had happened as it And I'm not justifying the

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Speaker 1: ICE agents shooting couple of American protesters. They got a

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Speaker 1: little I got a problem on their hands, those officers.

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Speaker 1: But aside from that, you know they're doing their job.

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Speaker 1: Now you can make a legal argument that an administrative

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Speaker 1: warrant does not allow them to enter a home. You

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Speaker 1: need a judicial warrant for that, and you might find

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Speaker 1: a person in agreement with you on that. Conceptually, I

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Speaker 1: am a constitutional purist in many respects. But except with

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Speaker 1: that one little point of order there not that it's

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Speaker 1: necessarily little. They're doing their job. These the folks that

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Speaker 1: they're gathering up have detention orders. They are subject to

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Speaker 1: deportation under the wording of the laws on the books.

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Speaker 1: How is it that people are getting harmed when ICE

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Speaker 1: does its work. Protesters throwing themselves in the middle of

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Speaker 1: this controversy because there, I guess outraged by it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you can't. You can protest, but we should be protesting

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Speaker 1: the underlying law that they're enforcing, not the act of enforcement.

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Speaker 1: It's why we have law enforcement officers. Generally, somebody's got

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Speaker 1: to do the work of enforcing the law. Anyway, keep

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Speaker 1: your popcorn out. Not sure whether it's going to get

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Speaker 1: resolved or not. Got that pesky Donald Trump issue going

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Speaker 1: on in there. I want to save act passed before

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Speaker 1: I'll sign literally anything. Is that a line in the

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Speaker 1: sand from Donald Trump? He did back off on the

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Speaker 1: bombing Iran within seventy two hours, so we'll see. Coming up,

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Speaker 1: Tom Zawastowski, we the people Convention on a new United

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Speaker 1: States Citizen Vote Amendment. This is amendment to the Constitution.

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Speaker 1: Plus the widow of Patrick Herringer, Sarah Herringer returns of

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Speaker 1: the Morning Show at seven thirty to talk about her

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Speaker 1: testifying today regarding the Patrick Herringer Act and her new

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Speaker 1: podcast help those going through the loss of a loved one.

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Speaker 1: That'll be at seven thirty. I hope you can stick

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Speaker 1: around for both.

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Speaker 3: What's happening over there in America.

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Speaker 1: So the bifty five Karaseet Talk Station. Brian Thomas right here,

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Speaker 1: wishing everyone very happy Tuesday, and welcoming back to the

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Speaker 1: Bitgy five Carssee Morning Show. It's becoming a recurring being

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Speaker 1: weekly on the fifty five Case Morning Show from We

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Speaker 1: the People Convention dot Org. Check it out book Market.

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Speaker 1: You'd be glad you did. Welcome back to the morning show,

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Speaker 1: Tom Zawastowski. It's always a pleasure heaving on the show.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Brian.

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Speaker 6: Glad to be on the talk with you of these

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Speaker 6: important issues for our country because like every day, you know,

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Speaker 6: there's something new and they're all important.

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Speaker 3: So I'm glad you get to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they are so over here and I'm using my

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Speaker 1: hand motion over here. We have the Save Act photo

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Speaker 1: ID requirement. Of course, Donald Trump says that you need

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Speaker 1: the Save Act passed before he's going to sign anything else,

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Speaker 1: including opening up the opening the government back up. I

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Speaker 1: know this negotiation is still going on, but during our

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Speaker 1: conversation today, the alternative may be this constitutional amendment that

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Speaker 1: is proposed by the US Citizens Vote. That's an organization

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Speaker 1: that's been behind constitutional amendments before. It's the Americans for

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Speaker 1: Citizen Voting Organization. But the actual constitutional amendment is called,

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Speaker 1: I guess the United States Citizens Vote Amendment, which Congresswoman

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Speaker 1: Laurel Lee introduced. So it's a proposed constitutional amendment introduced

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Speaker 1: in the House. So how will this work? Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about first off, what does it do as distinct from

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Speaker 1: the Save Act. Obviously, this is a constitutional amendment, which

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Speaker 1: means our elected officials can't go and unring the bell

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Speaker 1: like an all democratic Congress could go in and repeal

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Speaker 1: the Save Act down the road.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 6: And again, Brian, I don't know if you were surprised

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Speaker 6: as I was when I said this to you, because

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Speaker 6: I had no idea that we even needed this, right,

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Speaker 6: So why do we need this?

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Speaker 3: That's what Tom.

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Speaker 1: That was my reaction to Strecker because the verbiage he

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Speaker 1: had on the rundown was one thing, and I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at this constitutional amendment going wait a second, does Tom

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Speaker 1: want to talk about the Save Actors? You want to

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Speaker 1: talk about the constitution MEMENTI. It's the constitutional amendment, this

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Speaker 1: US state United States Citizens Vote Amendment. So explain to

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Speaker 1: my listeners, and of course a couple of double down

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Speaker 1: explain it to me why this separate thing may be

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Speaker 1: better or is even being proposed.

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Speaker 3: Well, so here's the part that shocked me.

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Speaker 6: Because we're fighting like heck for the Save Act because

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Speaker 6: what do we want to do. We want to stop

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Speaker 6: illegals illegals from voting in federal elections. So you know

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Speaker 6: the Save Act Act, you know, is basically saying you

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Speaker 6: got to show proof of citizenship to register and then

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Speaker 6: when you show.

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Speaker 3: Up to vote.

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Speaker 6: However, little did I know that the US Constitution actually

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Speaker 6: provides a loophole for states where if a state, let's

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Speaker 6: say a Blue Sate, we passed the Save Act and

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Speaker 6: now the radical left is really upset. So in California

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Speaker 6: they decide to vote to allow illegals to vote in

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Speaker 6: their state elections for governor, for House, and for Senate in.

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Speaker 3: Their state elections.

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Speaker 6: Under the US Constitution, that would then make those illegals

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Speaker 6: elderly vote in the federal elections despite what the Save actss.

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Speaker 3: It's in the Constitution.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you knew that.

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Speaker 6: No, So this is to try to fix that loophole

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Speaker 6: to close it all right.

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Speaker 1: Well, in this the concept which makes me scratch my

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Speaker 1: head over while the Save Act is being fought against

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Speaker 1: so hard by Democrats, the idea of citizen only voting.

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Speaker 1: And I saw the polling information was provided along with this,

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Speaker 1: but it's consistent with prior and prior polling and won't

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Speaker 1: surprise my listeners. Republicans ninety nine percent say only citizens

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Speaker 1: should vote, Democrats seventy eight percent say only citizens of

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Speaker 1: a vote, and then you have nonpartisan folks ninety two

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Speaker 1: percent of which say only citizens should vote. So overall,

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Speaker 1: when you crunch all the numbers together, this is a

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Speaker 1: ninety ten issue. Tom. So this isn't something we should

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Speaker 1: really argue about. But in terms of process, this constitutional

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Speaker 1: amendment will solve the problem that you just described, but

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Speaker 1: also stands I would argue, given that polling information, but

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Speaker 1: also the way the constitutional amendments are passed, that this

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Speaker 1: is going to be ratified by a popular vote of

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Speaker 1: the people. So if voters in thirty eight states vote

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Speaker 1: in the majority, it's in the constitution.

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Speaker 3: And that's I think the key.

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Speaker 6: I think you mentioned rightfully that this particular organization has

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Speaker 6: been involved with other amendment efforts in the past. And

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Speaker 6: I think what they're doing here is two things. One

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Speaker 6: is they're they're gonna make the Democrats have this, you know,

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Speaker 6: be exposed because you know, in your state, if they

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Speaker 6: don't vote for this, if it's on the ballot, if

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Speaker 6: the Democrats and like your legislature will not agree to

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Speaker 6: put it on the ballot, they're gonna have to own

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Speaker 6: that an election day. And that's a win for Republicans.

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Speaker 6: But the other part of it is they're using the

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Speaker 6: the same method that was used to repeal prohibition. So

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Speaker 6: this is not like an Article five convention anything. This

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Speaker 6: is an actual bipopular vote, you know situation. And so

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Speaker 6: they what I think they're actually trying to do and

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Speaker 6: why I'm kind of getting involved in support in it

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Speaker 6: that they want to make it.

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Speaker 3: They want to prove that we.

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Speaker 6: The people can pass constitutional amendments we're up till now.

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Speaker 6: And a lot of it's because the Article five convention

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Speaker 6: stuff has just been going for so long and not

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Speaker 6: getting anywhere that we really don't believe we can do it,

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Speaker 6: that we can you know, make changes to the Constitution.

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Speaker 6: This seems like a you know, with a ninety percent approval.

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Speaker 6: I think they believe we can get this done, and

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Speaker 6: I kind of like the fact that we the people

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Speaker 6: would have a say in it. So in Ohio, look,

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Speaker 6: you know, they've already put it forward in the Congress,

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Speaker 6: and then what's next is we will be working here

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Speaker 6: in Ohio to get it on the ballot so that

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Speaker 6: the constitutional Amendment can passed by thirty eight states.

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Speaker 1: So that right there is the challenge, and that this

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Speaker 1: challenge is for all states getting it on the ballot.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 6: And I think that you know that again, I think

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Speaker 6: you got to have an issue that's ninety ten in

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Speaker 6: order to kind of compel the legislators like who's against this?

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Speaker 6: You know, why would you be against only citizens you

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Speaker 6: can vote?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Would you be against that? So I don't know, but

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Speaker 3: they'll find a way.

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Speaker 6: The Democrats will give you some crazy, you know, explanation

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Speaker 6: about it's suppressing the vote, even though they claim. You know,

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Speaker 6: I thought it was really fun with John Houston. You

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Speaker 6: to the Democrats on the say back when they said, oh,

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Speaker 6: we're we're you know, against non citizens voting, and then

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Speaker 6: John Houston amended the say back and said, well then

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Speaker 6: let's just vote, you know, let's just pass that part

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Speaker 6: and what they do, they rejected it. So that's been

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Speaker 6: a valuable, you know, process for us to expose them

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Speaker 6: because they're just lying. It's real simple, Brent, It's real simple.

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Speaker 6: The illegals are voting for them by the pens of millions.

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Speaker 6: And if they don't they if they don't stop the

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Speaker 6: say back, if they don't stop this constitutional amendment, if

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Speaker 6: they don't stop us from cleaning the voter rules, they're

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Speaker 6: going to lose like never before. And that's why they're

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Speaker 6: fighting so hard.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's the timeframe for this? Again? If voters in

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Speaker 1: thirty eight states vote for this amendment by majority, it's

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Speaker 1: it becomes part of the constitution. If let's say, only

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Speaker 1: thirty eight states present this on a ballot, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you can do it by November, but if

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Speaker 1: they do, that's it. The process is over and it's

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Speaker 1: an amendment and it's ratify and it's part of the constitution.

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Speaker 1: In other words, the blue states can and say, well,

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Speaker 1: we didn't have a chance to vote on it. No,

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Speaker 1: you didn't present it to the voters for an option, right.

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Speaker 6: That's exactly right. And that so there's that, you know,

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Speaker 6: there's a really interesting game going on. Yeah, that involves

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Speaker 6: the grassroots in all states, including some Blue states, and uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, this group seems to be you know, really

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Speaker 6: well organized.

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Speaker 3: To uh you know, to push it forward. And so

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Speaker 3: we're going to see.

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Speaker 6: But I just thought I wanted to present to your

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Speaker 6: listeners that, you know, there's other ways to approach this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I find it interesting.

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Speaker 6: That no Blue state yet has voted in their legislatures

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Speaker 6: to allow illegals to vote in their elections, but they

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Speaker 6: sure don't mind them being the voter role so they

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Speaker 6: can vote in federal elections.

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Speaker 1: Well, we know, we know how these laws dying committee

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Speaker 1: have have have those things been proposed at least in

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Speaker 1: blue states? Has this option to vote on this amendment? Like,

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Speaker 1: is it in committee somewhere and it won't be advanced

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Speaker 1: because some leftists refuses to present it to the broader

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Speaker 1: house in any given state or they just haven't even

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Speaker 1: bothered looking into it.

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Speaker 6: No, it actually it's actually been on the ballot and

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Speaker 6: multiple states including you know, uh, you know Ohio in.

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Speaker 3: Twenty let's see here, I'm looking at the thing.

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Speaker 6: In twenty twenty, you know, there was an amendment that

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Speaker 6: was put up in Ohio to support this, and and

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Speaker 6: now twenty twenty six, it's on the ballot in Alaska, Arkansas, Kansas,

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Speaker 6: South Dakota, and West Virginia. So you know, I think

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Speaker 6: they've been working on this for a while, but I

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Speaker 6: think the Save Acts is giving them some momentum to

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Speaker 6: bring to our attention. Look out, the Constitution actually gives

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Speaker 6: them a back door to completely blow the savac away

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Speaker 6: even if we pass it.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, oh man, never, Yeah, And that's

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Speaker 1: something that's never been raised here in the Morning Show,

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Speaker 1: nor have I seen it reported along those lines. Tom.

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Speaker 1: That's just it's an eye opener, I open, eye open

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Speaker 1: for my listening audience as well. How about the time

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Speaker 1: frame in terms of the passage. Once a state offers

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Speaker 1: the opportunity and the citizens vote on it, Let's say

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Speaker 1: they vote in favor of this constitutional amendment. Does that

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Speaker 1: vote hold and last beyond any given legislative session or

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Speaker 1: they have to bring it back up to the top.

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Speaker 1: Are we already on record? And does that last? How

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Speaker 1: do you How long can you does it take to

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Speaker 1: you before you can accumulate the thirty eight states you

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Speaker 1: need to pass this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: As I understand it, If it passes, then it stays

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Speaker 6: on the record until you know, you get to thirty eight.

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Speaker 6: And the only way it actually dies is if you

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Speaker 6: never get the thirty eight, which is kind of what

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Speaker 6: we've seen with the Article five conventions, right.

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Speaker 3: So you know, it's it's it's a process. Now.

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Speaker 6: These guys though, they're on the fast track. I mean,

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Speaker 6: they're talking to me about, hey, Tom, can you help

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Speaker 6: us you know here in Ohio like right now, and

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Speaker 6: and there you know, as you can see, they've actually

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Speaker 6: proposed it in the House. And I understand that Jim

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Speaker 6: Jordan was was involved with them, you know, coming and

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Speaker 6: saying we want to do this, and he is for it,

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Speaker 6: and it's going to help push for it at the

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Speaker 6: at the federal level, it has to pass you know, Congress.

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Speaker 6: And I said, well, you know, we're are you going

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Speaker 6: to get the Democrats to vote for this? And they

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Speaker 6: seem to think that there are some Democrats that.

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Speaker 3: Will vote for this. I don't know. I said to them,

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Speaker 3: let me see that at the federal level.

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Speaker 6: We'll do our part. At the state level if you

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Speaker 6: can hand the ball off to us.

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess if there's any sort of well it

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Speaker 1: didn't work, but there might be a bright light behind

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Speaker 1: all this. Democrats will actually be on record as wanting

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Speaker 1: non citizens to be able to vote in federal elections.

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Speaker 1: That is what would come of a vote within like that.

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Speaker 1: If if Jim Jordan advances it, you're going to get

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Speaker 1: him on record.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 6: And I think for we the people, you know, looking

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Speaker 6: at November and the fact that we have to win, folks,

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Speaker 6: we must win this November because everything Donald Trump has

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01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 6: done will be completely destroyed if we lose the House

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Speaker 6: or the Senate. And so how do we get people

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Speaker 6: out to vote? How do we get people excited when

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01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 6: Trump isn't really on the ballot himself, even though he

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Speaker 6: will be the Democrats will claim he's on the ballot.

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Speaker 6: So this is the thing that I'm most concerned with,

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Speaker 6: is voter turnout and our people seeing the bigger picture

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Speaker 6: of we've got to hold the line and give Trump

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Speaker 6: his full term to implement these reforms. And this is

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Speaker 6: a good example of a reform we could get done

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Speaker 6: before Trump's done in office.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it would motivate voters to get to

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Speaker 1: the polls. Tom, I have to agree with you on that,

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Speaker 1: and I obviously don't understand anyone's reluctance to get out

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Speaker 1: and vote anyway. But that's been a puzzling for me

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Speaker 1: for years and years and years. Like the peace of God,

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Speaker 1: it passes Brian Thomas's understanding, Tom's I was asking what

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Speaker 1: the People Convention beyond? Do we need to pester someone?

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01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: Is this moving forward here? I mean, who should we

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01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: get in touch with and how do we act on

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Speaker 1: this to light a fire into the right people?

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Speaker 6: All right, well, you know I would it's not time

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01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 6: to act yet, and I'll come on and we'll talk

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01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 6: about how to do that when we're ready to do it.

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01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 6: Everyone needs to focus on the Senators and the Save Act.

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Speaker 3: You just have to. Now.

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Speaker 6: President Trump is, you know, drawing a line in the sands, saying,

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01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 6: you know, I'm not gonna sign anything unless the Save

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01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 6: Act has passed. He's saying he wants him to stay

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01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 6: over Easter. He's got Easter dinner. You said, you claim that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm glad to see President Trump playing this

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01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 6: hard because it really is the difference. Why are they

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01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 6: fighting so hard because Brian, they know they're done.

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Speaker 3: If we can stop the illegal soroy, I mean, I

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Speaker 3: love came back.

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Speaker 6: Jefferies Our number one thing is no ICE ages that

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01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 6: the fulling locations.

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Speaker 3: Boy, if that isn't a dead giveaway to the.

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01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 6: Fact that you're gonna have a lot of illegals voting,

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01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 6: what is?

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Speaker 4: What is?

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01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 6: We've got to win this fight, and I'm glad President

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01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 6: Trump is disengaged. I don't think we can win it though.

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Speaker 6: In the Senate, I think reconciliation is gonna be the

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01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 6: way they're gonna do this.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree with that.

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Speaker 6: I think they're gonna take the funding for the military,

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01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 6: the Save Act and and DHS funding and wrap it

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Speaker 6: into you know, a reconciliation bill.

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Speaker 3: That's at least what I'm.

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Speaker 1: Hearing, and that's what I've read a lot about as well.

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01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: So anyway, you know that, you get the funny point

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Speaker 1: about the ICE agents being at the polling places. You

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01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: don't need a judicial warrant. You're not kicking anybody's personal

1434
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: front door. That Fourth Amendment doesn't necessarily apply because you're

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01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: out in public and there you are, and if you're

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Speaker 1: subject to a detention order, they'd be in a position

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01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: to pick you up.

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01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 3: What a concept. Boy, We wouldn't want we wouldn't want

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01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 3: that to.

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Speaker 6: Happen, right, right, no illegals voting, Brian, trust me, there's

1441
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:30,480
Speaker 6: no illegals voting.

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01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: But no I know, And that concern is kind of

1443
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: comical given it like, well, you're not going to get

1444
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 1: picked up if you're not subject to an illegal immigration

1445
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: detention order. So if you are, then why you there

1446
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 1: at the polling place anyway? Tom's Awastowski We either people

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01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:45,600
Speaker 1: Convention dot Org. Good heaving you on. Tom. We'll be

1448
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: looking forward to more information about this. Huh this American's

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01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:52,719
Speaker 1: h this, I'm sorry, United States Citizens vote amendment. Whenever

1450
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 1: he gets more info about action plans, please come back

1451
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: in the morning show. We'll definitely talk about it.

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01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 3: Glad to do it. Have a great week and enjoy

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01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 3: the start.

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Speaker 1: KC the talk station. Try to have men, brother, We

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01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 1: certainly will do that a little difficult, not happy, but

1456
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: may turn lemons into lemonade. Welcome back to the fifty

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01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,799
Speaker 1: five Carse Morning. Joe widow Sarah Heringer, her husband Patrick

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01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 1: slain in their home and over the Rhine June fourth,

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Speaker 1: by Mordisha Black, who was well supposed to be in

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01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: an ankle monitor which he cut off in February of

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01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 1: that year. No one seemed to know that he had

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01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: run amuck. He didn't make his probation hearing, so lots

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01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,799
Speaker 1: of red flags, and yet he entered into Sarah Heringer

1464
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: and Patrick Herringer's home and stabbed Patrick to death. Patrick

1465
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 1: died in Sarah's arm. Sarah, welcome back to the morning show.

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01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: Let me start by asking you how have you been lately?

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01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 1: Your posts on Facebook are so emotional, they're like love

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01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: letters to your late husband. And I know you're trying

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01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: to help some other women along those lines, But first off,

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Speaker 1: how have you been? And welcome back?

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Speaker 9: Hi, Thanks for having me. I mean, it's all part

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01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 9: of the healing process. I would say for me, the

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01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 9: writing has been just to document or or articulate, try

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01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 9: to articulate what I'm feeling as I go through degree process.

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Speaker 9: I feel like that's been very helpful for me. And

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01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 9: then yes, helpful. I've got people have said it's helpful

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Speaker 9: for them as well, and that's that's nice to hear.

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01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 9: But taking care of myself has been my priority well

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Speaker 9: in my last few months.

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Speaker 1: Well that's important, and you know, if it's cathartic writing

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01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: about it, if it's good for you, it helps you

1482
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 1: purge these emotions and let other people know what you're feeling.

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01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 1: I think that is a wonderful benefit that people can

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01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 1: get from you without having to go through your struggle.

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Speaker 1: So I applaud you for that and your your ability

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01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,560
Speaker 1: to be so open about it. But you know, you

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01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 1: your situation. You know, let's just say, unlike someone who

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01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: loses a loved one to cancer, you know it's a

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01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 1: terrible thing. But this, this is a system that let

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Speaker 1: you and your late husband down. The man has was out,

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Speaker 1: he had an ankle monitor. He was a violent, convicted felon.

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Speaker 1: I mean he eight year prison sentence for beating a

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01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 1: man unconscious downtown suspect and home break in serve time

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Speaker 1: for drug trafficking. And of course now he's on he's

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Speaker 1: being a prosecutor for murdering your husband, all for want

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Speaker 1: of monitoring an ankle monitor. It was your case and

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Speaker 1: your problem in your tragedy that revealed to all of

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Speaker 1: us that those ankle monitors don't do or mean Jack

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Speaker 1: squat because nobody's paying attention. Sarah.

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Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, there is a the greef side of it,

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01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 9: and then the negligence side of systemic failure in our

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01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 9: justice system. That is the reason why I'm driving en

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Speaker 9: route to the Ohio State Capitol right now to testify

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Speaker 9: in front of the House Committee and Senate Committee to

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01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 9: try to get Reagan tops Patrick Herringer Act, which is

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01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 9: Phil six sixty seven, if you know, if anybody's looking

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01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 9: it up, to hopefully get that pass through where it

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Speaker 9: becomes law now with real time ankle monitoring and also

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01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 9: uh tacking on adding on a little bit more either

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Speaker 9: prison time or making the violation of their parole, having

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01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 9: a little bit more bite to it is also been

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Speaker 9: written into the bill as well.

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Speaker 1: Exactly and again we'll only have you for a short

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01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 1: segment because you are driving and I don't want you

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01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: to drive distracted, Sarah. The one provision in the Patrick

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Speaker 1: or the Reaganok's Patrick Heringer Act that I gravitated towards

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Speaker 1: given the background situation with this Mordecai black person, it

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Speaker 1: requires the DRS to contract with a single vendor and

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01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 1: then provide continuous GPS monitoring in real time. This addresses

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Speaker 1: the gez he cut his ankle monitor off and he's

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01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 1: running the bok out in society, they would know right away.

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Speaker 1: Have you gotten any pushback on this? As anybody said, Yeah,

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01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: that's a great idea, but sometimes I hear the word

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01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,799
Speaker 1: it's going to cost too much, or that's not practical,

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01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 1: or that's not feasible. Have you heard anything along those lines,

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01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: because honestly, I can't imagine a single human being who

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01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't favor this type of improvement over what we've got

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01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 9: There there was a hearing two weeks ago in which

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01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 9: Lisa Tops testified at that one, because bills need multiple

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01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 9: hearings usually before they get passed through, and one of

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Speaker 9: the things that was brought up by a council member

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01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 9: was what is this going to cost? And one of

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Speaker 9: the most frustrating things that I have come to find

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Speaker 9: out is that the State Parole Board has already switched

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01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 9: to real time monitoring. They when this first came out,

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01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:46,480
Speaker 9: when they were interviewed, they said, we followed our policy,

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01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 9: were in the clear, and then within forty eight hours

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01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 9: changed their policy to this. So there has been money.

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01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 9: There already was money. They're already doing it. They've changed

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01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 9: their policy. And what Bill six do is go move

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01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 9: beyond policy and make it a state law, so there

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01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 9: isn't an opportunity in the future for someone to switch

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01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 9: back and then of course streamline the process with the

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Speaker 9: single vendor. But the point is is that there there

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Speaker 9: that was a big question is what is this going?

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Speaker 9: Where's this budget coming from? And they it's already been

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Speaker 9: in the budget, which is you know, I guess moving forward,

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Speaker 9: it is the hopeful.

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Speaker 5: Thing to hear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a hurdle overcome because that quite often is

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Speaker 1: the reason things die. And let's quite let's let's all

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01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: be honest with ourselves. If we had a priority in

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01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: terms of where we're going to spend money in a state,

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01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: I would think people would embrace this, given how often

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01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: this has happened and the fact that it can even happen,

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01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: which is beyond me. Sarah Heringer, you've also pivoted your

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01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 1: tragedy into a podcast to help those who are going

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01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: through the kind of the same kind of loss. How's

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01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,639
Speaker 1: that going? And how do the what is it called

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Speaker 1: so my listeners can can find your podcast?

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Speaker 9: Yes, it's called This is Healing, and it's on every

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01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 9: podcast platform, Apple, Spotify, my Substack, all of that, and

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01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 9: it is it's just an account of either what I'm

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01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 9: learning or what I'm processing what I've experienced in through

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01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 9: all of this, I have learned how grief illiterate our

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01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 9: culture is with either handling it or this expectation that

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01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 9: over time grief goes away. I don't really know where

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01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 9: the concept of like time heals all wounds, where that

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01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 9: formula came out, but it's really far from the truth.

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01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 9: You live with the grief, you learn to hold it

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01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 9: differently and build capacity around it. But the grief that

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01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 9: there's nothing to fix. You're not broken for experiencing grief,

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01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 9: and so I on the podcast just talk about my

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01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 9: personal account of it. And again, if that is either

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01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 9: a way for people to connect with their own learn

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01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 9: how to handle it so we can be a more

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01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:05,520
Speaker 9: passionate and understanding and literate society, then that would be

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01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 9: a start.

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Speaker 1: Well. I hope this is Healing podcast helps with your

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01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 1: personal healing and your journey and you will achieve that

1583
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: that release that so many people look for, the elusive one,

1584
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 1: and of course that'll help other people experiencing the same tragedy.

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01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: Sarah Haringer a best of luck today, safe travels on

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01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: the balance of your trip and your return trip. And

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01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: I really hope that it's a meaningful testimony and that

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01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: our elected officials will listen to you and move forward

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01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: with the Reagan Toaks and Patrick Herringer Act because it

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01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: sounds like it's in the best interest of everyone and

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01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: of course well worth the expenditure of taxpayer resources. Sarah.

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01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 9: I agree, yeah, absolutely.

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01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: God bless you for everything you're doing, Sarah, and thoughts

1594
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: and prayers from all my listening audience on your healing

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01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 1: journey and good luck today. Will be looking for a

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01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 1: positive result from your assets. Safe travel is great. Talking

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01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: always a pleasure, Sarah. I think about you quite often.

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Speaker 1: We will all we all do. Good luck seven point

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Speaker 1: thirty six right now, if you five kres the talk station, God,

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Speaker 1: what a weight fifty five karas decalks station. I'm not

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01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 1: a very happy Tuesday to you. H happiness can be

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01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: tempered by something that Sarah had to go through. But boy,

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01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: she is doing God's work and going to Columbus to

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01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 1: testify about this bill obviously named after her late husband

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01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:25,440
Speaker 1: along with Reagan Toaks, both of them murdered by offenders

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01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: on post release control, which of course revealed all these

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01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:30,600
Speaker 1: gaps in the system. A system. It really wasn't a

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01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: system in place. I mean, I swear who among us

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01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 1: thought that there wasn't some sort of at least close

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01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: to real time monitoring of folks out there in the

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01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: world with ankle bracelets on. You know, here, let's state

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01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: the obvious. Having broke multiple criminal laws, they are supposed

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01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: to be following the law at home. What's the deterrent

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01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 1: if someone with an ankle monitor is well aware of

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01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: the fact that they're not monitor real time. Hey, my

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01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: buddy's been walking around for a year and a half

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01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 1: without an ankle monitor on. Nobody ever picked up. Yeah,

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01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: how about I try it. You know, big brothers watching

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01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: and hopefully at this point forward to some point forward,

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01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 1: they'll be watching you constantly. You're the one that engaged

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01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,560
Speaker 1: in the criminals conduct. You're the one that can't be

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01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: trusted to follow the law. Just so frustrating anyway, and

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01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: boil down the key provisions of this particular bill that

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01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: she's going to be testifying in favor of give judges

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Speaker 1: at giving judges increased discretion to send repeat or problem

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01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 1: offenders to prison. You know, part of me says, judges

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01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 1: already enjoy a liberal amount of discretion on whether to

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01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 1: send somebody to prison or put them in an ankle

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01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 1: monitor program. Maybe you want some tougher on crime judges

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01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 1: out there. Okay, defines targeted violent offender, no definition for that,

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01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: So this will solve that problem. Requires warrants for Tier

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01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 1: one offenses detention violations issued by any law enforcement agency,

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01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,719
Speaker 1: including the Department of Rehab and CRACT, to be entered

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01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 1: into the law Enforcement Automated Data System and the appropriate

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01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: National Crime Information Center within forty eight hours. Okay, they're

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01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 1: put on alert within forty eight hours, but still, at

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01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 1: least it streamlines that process. This is something she was

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01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 1: alluding to. Requires a notification of the nine to one

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01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 1: to one call center within forty eight hours of a

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01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: warrant being issued, so the nine to one one folks

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01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:26,560
Speaker 1: know as well. That's important. And then of course that

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01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: real time monitoring that I mentioned when I was talking

1643
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 1: with Sarah so and who among us didn't think that

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01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 1: that was actually happening anyway, So thanks you to State

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01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 1: Representative Cindy Abrams for advancing this legislation. She pointed it out,

1646
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: this legislation is about keeping people safe and preventing tragic,

1647
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: devastating crimes like the aggravated murders of Reagan Tolks and

1648
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,719
Speaker 1: Patrick Herringer. Without public safety, nothing else matters. We'll aimen

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01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: to that House Bill six sixty seven. It's still awaiting

1650
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,879
Speaker 1: a committee assignment, and of course you want to get involved.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine anyone standing in a way of this.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I've been surprised before, is this

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Speaker 1: a ninety ten issue? Shouldn't it be one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: plus rumors, accusations and innuendo that the Russians are helping

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Speaker 1: by sharing intelligence with the Iranians to prolong the conflict.

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Speaker 1: the Ukrainian President. Russia is using its own signals intelligence

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Speaker 1: real quick here, this is just Is it a reflection

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Speaker 1: of higher education? Is a reflection of just the overall

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Speaker 1: stupidity in the American people? Is it a consequence of

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Speaker 1: the inherent sort of human emotion of envy and greed

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Speaker 1: and covetousness that we're all plagued with the some degree.

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Speaker 1: going on on college campuses, reporting now sixty two percent

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Speaker 1: of American adults under thirty now hold favorable views of socialism.

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01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 1: Clearly not students of history, even though I'm puzzled. There

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01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 1: was a lot of reporting going on about code pink

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Speaker 1: going on of Cuba, and I was like, in support

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Speaker 1: of the Cuban regime, and yeah, they're staying at five

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01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 1: star hotels that have electricity while everybody else starves in Cuba,

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Speaker 1: which is the underlying point. What in the hell are

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Speaker 1: they going down to the supporter otherwise celebrate a colossally

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01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 1: failed regime. Well, that's because of economic sinking the United States.

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Speaker 1: We don't have to trade with anybody. Remember the Cold

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Speaker 1: War with the Soviet Union. How much trading do we

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Speaker 1: do with them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right, nun And the Soviet Union collapsed under the own

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Speaker 1: economic weight of its scary, stupid policies. Yeah, well, we

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01:34:55,680 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: didn't support them by trading with them, so they chose

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Speaker 1: their own path. Castro went Marxist on everybody and embraced

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01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union, which helped them struggle through the couple

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Speaker 1: of decades after the revolution. If it wasn't for the

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01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 1: Soviet Union support, I don't know the Cuba would have

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01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 1: lasted that long. And as far as I suppose you

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01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 1: could make a better threat justifying the Bay of pigs.

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01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 1: Failed invasion of Cuba, that was our effort. CIA led

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01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 1: that one. Where did that one go? And was there

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Speaker 1: a declaration of war? No? Anyway, what in the hell

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01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 1: are they supporting? Failed regimes there? And yet one more

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01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 1: regime that the crazy young people in this world apparently

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01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 1: aren't paying attention to, since they have a favorable view

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Speaker 1: of socialism and communism. Notably, in the survey found that

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01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 1: only thirty eight percent of American youth had an unfavorable

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Speaker 1: view of socialism, only thirty eight percent. When asked about

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01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:59,640
Speaker 1: communism as distinct from socialism, thirty four percent of respondents

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01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 1: aged eighteen to twenty nine answered favorable, which is a

1739
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: scary percentage. I know it's only one third roughly, but

1740
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 1: sixty six percent unfavorable when it came to communism. But

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01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, socialism is the step before communism, And I

1742
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 1: guess the most troubling thing. Maybe it's just I'm an

1743
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 1: old guy. Maybe I have made perhaps conventional ethical norms.

1744
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 1: I know we have an income tax, and I know

1745
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 1: there are other taxes out there, and there is a

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01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: justification for some taxes, but the perception that young people

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01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 1: have that they have are entitled to what you've earned

1748
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 1: or what you have done for yourself through hard work

1749
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 1: and effort, or even fortuity and magic landing in your lap,

1750
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 1: allowing you to exceed in this world. You know that

1751
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 1: happens all the time. And as I always go back

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01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 1: to the fact, I've been a W two employee my

1753
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 1: whole life, and thank God for those who've gone before me,

1754
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 1: that build empires that hired me, I'm not there. Don't

1755
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: have any covetousness or greed or envy associated with those

1756
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,719
Speaker 1: who have done well, even if it was inadvertent. People

1757
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 1: win the lottery, right, is that because of some sort

1758
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 1: of privilege or something? Are they not entitled to participate? Hey,

1759
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 1: you gotta play to win, right, Well, somebody's gonna win,

1760
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 1: and that necessarily results in taxation that takes fifty percent

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01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 1: of the winnings just because well, you came into a

1762
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:32,560
Speaker 1: windfall of money. Where does this idea that what you

1763
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:36,879
Speaker 1: have somehow magically belongs to me and then I'm allowed

1764
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 1: to use the laws to take from you as much

1765
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 1: as I want. I don't know how you wrestle with

1766
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 1: yourself and sleep at night with that perception in mind.

1767
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 1: But then again, maybe I'm just too old seven fifty six.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we're gonna hear they get the Inside Scoop

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01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 1: A Tech editor Colin maynine. After the news, hope you

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01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 1: and stick around.

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Speaker 3: What's happening over there cannot be ever allowed.

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Speaker 5: To have.

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Speaker 1: Eight oh five here at fifty five KRCD talk station.

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas, wishing everyone a very happy Tuesday, and always

1775
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 1: looking forward to this time a week. We have appointment

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01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: listening here in the morning show. One of them is

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01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 1: right now. We call it the breit Bart Inside Scoop,

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Speaker 1: and today happy to welcome back to the bright Bart

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01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 1: Inside Scoop in the fifty five KRC Morning Show, Breitbart

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01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: Tech Editor Colin May nine. And of course, as I

1781
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 1: always say before we start talking, book mark this site

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01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 1: b R E I T B A r T dot com.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Colin. It's always great having you on the show.

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01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 1: Happy to be here, Brian, and sort of welcome to

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01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 1: the city of CINCINNY. I know it's a virtual class.

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01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 1: Anybody in America or wherever, whoever you're listening, whoever you're

1787
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 1: listening to my voice, including Germany, Steve, Good morning again.

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Speaker 1: Empower you America dot org a virtual class. Just register

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01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 1: ahead of time, log in at seven pm because Colinen

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01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:50,440
Speaker 1: Collin's got to be talking about technology and artificial intelligence

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01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 1: and what's coming our way with a question mark after that,

1792
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:54,719
Speaker 1: what is coming our way? Colin?

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01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 2: Well, Brian, you know, they kind of they kind of

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01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 2: put me in the microscope with that headline, because anyone

1795
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 2: who says with complete confidence they knows what's coming is

1796
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 2: lying to you, you know, right. I like to say,

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Speaker 2: I don't even really write a speech because if you

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01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 2: write a speech about AI, it's going to be out

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01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:17,560
Speaker 2: of date by the time you give it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no question. That's like technology generally speaking. Man, I'm

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01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 1: old enough to remember having to learn MS DOS to

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01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 1: deal with you know, with computers, and I learned basic

1803
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 1: when I was in K through twelve education. And you know,

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01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:34,600
Speaker 1: fast forward today we have moved at light speed and

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01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 1: every day you wake up something has dramatically changed. So

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01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 1: the world is crazy with technology. So I certainly get

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01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:43,560
Speaker 1: your point on that. And artificial intelligence is to be

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01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 1: the most moving target out there. I mean I read

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01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 1: articles where we're all going to be unemployed. AI is

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01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 1: putting everybody out of a job to no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: The human element will never be replaced. And of course

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Speaker 1: the only thing I think it is immune from some

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01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 1: impact by AI. And you can feel free to chime

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Speaker 1: in on this generalized, generalized statement. Trades. AI can't install

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01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 1: plumbing or electric or along those lines. So maybe that's

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01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 1: the one area of refuge from AI. But your response

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Speaker 1: to that, Colin, well, in.

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Speaker 2: Large in part, I agree with that. You know, AI

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01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:21,719
Speaker 2: cannot do the trades. They can't fix your plumbing, et cetera.

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01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 2: They can't lay you know, they can't be the electrical

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01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 2: wiring that they need for their data centers. So that

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Speaker 2: would be the view of Nvidia CEO Johsan Wong that

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Speaker 2: you know there's going to be an explosion of jobs

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Speaker 2: in the trades and related to the trades. You know,

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01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 2: certainly the powers that be want AI to do those

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Speaker 2: things they envision the future, and this would be elon Mush.

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Speaker 3: For example, where robots do everything.

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Speaker 2: So you know it's not AI necessarily that turning the

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Speaker 2: wrench on that pipe, but it's a robot controlled by AI.

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Speaker 2: That's directly how you get the terminators.

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Speaker 1: And you know our party, Colin, I literally just got

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Speaker 1: done writing fighting Wars for us when you said that,

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Speaker 1: It's the first thing that came to my mind anyhow.

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Speaker 2: Right, So you know that's there's certainly some of these

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Speaker 2: people working towards that. I'm a big believer in the

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Speaker 2: human element because I see a lot of problems with AI,

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Speaker 2: and I don't you know, I don't believe that the

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Speaker 2: proper application is trying to replace humanity and have us all,

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01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 2: you know, sitting on virtual reality eating crickets and smoking wheed.

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01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 2: You know, that's frankly what Silicon Valley wants for our

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Speaker 2: children and grandchildren.

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Speaker 3: You and I don't want that.

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01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 2: For a change, our children and grandchildren.

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01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 1: Get are stipend from government for buying food. Otherwise it's

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01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:54,920
Speaker 1: naval contemplation and poetry writing for all of you. Interesting.

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01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 1: But you mentioned problems, and you know, depending on people's

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01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 1: perceptions what AI represents in terms of problems, I think

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01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 1: a lot of it springs largely from at least from

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01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, my listeners standpoint. A lot of people who

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01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 1: are concerned about AI. You know, the whole garbage in,

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01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 1: garbage out philosophy that who's programming it has sort of

1852
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 1: pre programmed an implicit bias towards things that might not

1853
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 1: sit well politically, ethically, or morally with a lot of

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01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: people out there that might use AI, how do we

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Speaker 1: address that component.

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Speaker 2: That's a tremendous problem. And there's two forms of bias

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01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 2: for one, you know, as if one wasn't bet enough, Brian.

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Speaker 2: So first of all, you know, we have the bias

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Speaker 2: of the people making the AI. You know, pro tip

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Speaker 2: there's not a lot of red hats in sitting in

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Speaker 2: open AI and meta right.

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Speaker 3: And right shocking, No, he get stent the HR for

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Speaker 3: doing that.

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Speaker 2: So how that impacts things is AI almost works in

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01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 2: two stages. It formulates answers and then it sort of

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01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 2: checks those answers against almost.

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Speaker 3: The rules for behavior.

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01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 2: Here's how I'm supposed to act, okay, And so those

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01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:18,639
Speaker 2: very biased progressive leftists create those rules for how you're

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01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 2: supposed to act. That causes AI to do a lot

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01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 2: of wacky things, like when Google. You know, one of

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Speaker 2: the infamous moments in recent AI history was Google launched

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01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 2: the Gemini Gemini AI image creator. One of the rules

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Speaker 2: that Google set for that tool was make everything diverse.

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01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't matter what.

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Speaker 3: They asked for.

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Speaker 1: Make it diverse to hope.

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01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 2: People said, you know, make a picture of founding fathers

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01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 2: and you got Asian founding fathers, Black Founding fathers.

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Speaker 1: Black George Washington. If I recall correctly, it generated that one.

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01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, make a picture of Nazis and

1882
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 2: you got Indian Nazis. You know, like it was doing

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01:43:57,320 --> 01:44:00,640
Speaker 2: what it was programmed to do. The other portion, and

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01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:04,680
Speaker 2: this is another form of bias is AI operates off

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01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 2: training data. You know, you know, imagine your hard drive

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01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 2: at home times ten million. Okay, that's the amount of

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01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 2: training data these things work with, if not much more.

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Speaker 2: And that training data is not sort of clean factual data.

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Speaker 2: For example, they love to use Reddit to train oh no,

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Speaker 2: to train these things, and you I just from your action,

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01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 2: you know who's on Reddit.

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01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1893
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 2: We don't want the generation, the next generation to become

1894
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 2: sits all day on Reddit. That's being sucked into AI

1895
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 2: as factual, good info and it's operating on that. So

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01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 2: you now see there's sort of two forms of bias

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01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 2: in one.

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Speaker 1: Well that kind of goes back to my garbage in

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Speaker 1: garbage out, because one of the other components is erroneous

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01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 1: information that not only would you have biased information. If

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01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,719
Speaker 1: you're just looking at Reddit, not only there's random musings,

1902
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:02,719
Speaker 1: people with sphincters. We all got one offering their thoughts

1903
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 1: and comments on any given topic. But you know, when

1904
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 1: it comes to generating what we hope are is legitimate content, like,

1905
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:12,920
Speaker 1: for example, the many times stupid lawyers relied on AI

1906
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 1: generated briefs and then come to find out when they

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01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:17,600
Speaker 1: go to court to judge, you know, fund them in

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01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 1: contempt because the cases that are cited in the AI

1909
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 1: generated brief are fake. They are whole cloth made up.

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Speaker 1: How can that even be?

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Speaker 2: There's actually, you know, I love talking about this with you, Brian,

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01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 2: because your lot background. There's actually now a worst case

1913
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 2: where a person on appeal not only did they have

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01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 2: made up cases and stuff, but they made up from

1915
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 2: whole cloth. The AI made up from whole cloth quotes

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01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:48,479
Speaker 2: and statements that the prosecutor as supposed to know, and

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Speaker 2: they're defamatory. They basically said, look how evil and wrong

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Speaker 2: this prosecutor is When they said quote unquote and it

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Speaker 2: was not in the record, it's.

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Speaker 1: Just oh my god. So yeah, there's other lawyers out

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Speaker 1: there reacting an equal shock on that. On that I

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Speaker 1: have Geeze Louise making up the lower court record. Wow.

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Speaker 2: So, Brian, you know one of the things I want

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Speaker 2: to do tonight with empower you, and I think this

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Speaker 2: is really valuable for people, is I'm in the front

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Speaker 2: line to this, right, I'm dealing with the news every day,

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Speaker 2: and what that's enabled me to do is kind of

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Speaker 2: create some baseline concepts that can help you understand the

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Speaker 2: news about AI. So I'll just share one right now

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Speaker 2: because it goes to what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: It's very very.

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Speaker 2: Clear that when people use AI to replace themselves or

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Speaker 2: human activity in a final product like a legal filing,

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Speaker 2: a letter, anything like that, people don't even read that

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Speaker 2: before they turn it in. The Oh my lord, it's good,

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Speaker 2: and they turn it in. So that lawyer it would

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Speaker 2: never you know, no matter how many lawyers get busted

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Speaker 2: for this, it never occurs to the lawyer. Hey, I

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Speaker 2: ought to have my junior associate check, you know, Brian

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Speaker 2: Thomas v. Collin and make sure that case actually exists. Right,

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Speaker 2: They just they just say the machine said it. The

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Speaker 2: machine is God. I'm turning it in. And so that

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Speaker 2: happens with kids, that happens with lawyers, that happens with

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Speaker 2: everyone in between.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the mind blowing thing about that I

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Speaker 1: hate to do one of the legal aspects of this,

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Speaker 1: and maybe a little bit weed dwelling, but a case

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Speaker 1: cited in anything generated for me, I'm going to have

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Speaker 1: to look at it anyway, just to find out if

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Speaker 1: it's still valid case law. Not that I would even

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Speaker 1: think first off that they how could something that's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be intelligent whole cloth create a case that never

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Speaker 1: even existed in law books. So that seems to be

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Speaker 1: a glitch that should be easily solvable by our you know,

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Speaker 1: intellectual lords and masters putting this together. But I would

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Speaker 1: first go and grab that case and want to run

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Speaker 1: through shepherds to find out whether it's still case law

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Speaker 1: that's valid or has been overturned by some other decision,

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Speaker 1: because there's no guarantee that they've run it through that

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Speaker 1: process and generating the original brief.

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Speaker 2: Brian, you're still last century. I just can't deal with

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Speaker 2: people like you. So let me add one guy a

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Speaker 2: little more freel to the fire. There is we're not

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Speaker 2: when when we're talking about this happening, Brian, we're almost

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Speaker 2: never talking about like you know, just out of law

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Speaker 2: school of people. And it's like a say, like a

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Speaker 2: you know, a minor traffic accident kind of case. Right,

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Speaker 2: this is happening on gigantic stages. This is happening. One

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Speaker 2: of the classic cases this has happened is a major

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Speaker 2: mega law firm doing Walmart, and you know, the judge

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Speaker 2: called them out on it. They had to remove the

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Speaker 2: one of their partners from the case. And I think

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Speaker 2: they lost the case against Walmart eventually in part because

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Speaker 2: you know, they had to stain on them of doing

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Speaker 2: these fake filings. And so you know, that's not a

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Speaker 2: one man firm. That's not Matt Locke messing up a

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Speaker 2: case or something. Right, this is you have a million

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Speaker 2: people in suits and no one can check that that citation.

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Speaker 1: And billing the out of fifteen hundred dollars or more

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Speaker 1: an hour.

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Speaker 3: Good gig if you can get it well.

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Speaker 1: And then pivoting over to something even more profound, and

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Speaker 1: I think probably more people can connect with the idea

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Speaker 1: that AI is certainly going to be used in the

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Speaker 1: field of medicine, and the idea that a erroneous diagnosis,

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Speaker 1: an erroneous treatment protocol, or something is relied upon, maybe

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Speaker 1: by a physician who's looking for a little help trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out his patient's disease state, might rely on

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Speaker 1: something that could ultimately prove to be I don't know,

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Speaker 1: even fatal to a patient.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: So, you know this is a concern I've actually talked

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Speaker 2: to with my son about. So my son is graduating college.

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Speaker 3: He's going to medical school.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, you know, neither of us have any concern that.

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Speaker 2: You know, by the time he's out there will be

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Speaker 2: no doctors. She'll just get a doctor AI. We don't

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Speaker 2: lose a minute of sleep about that, right, right, So

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Speaker 2: what we do, what we have talked about is you know,

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Speaker 2: how will that be used? And there's no question AI

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Speaker 2: has some great applications clearly in medicine, so ranging from

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Speaker 2: drug research because it can sit there all day and

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Speaker 2: all night running numbers and checking things and flagging the humans.

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Speaker 2: Hey this might work.

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Speaker 3: It can.

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Speaker 2: Also it has a lot of applications and things like

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Speaker 2: reading you know, X rays and I.

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Speaker 1: Agree, CT scans, MRIs. They could probably identify tumorous things

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Speaker 1: or little things that maybe overlook by a human being.

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Speaker 1: I get that, and of course what positions to.

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Speaker 2: Brian, there's actually it's funny because when you look at

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Speaker 2: test results scans. AI is good at catching certain things,

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Speaker 2: but humans are better at catching are very experienced, right,

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Speaker 2: So that's why they should work together. AI should always

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Speaker 2: help us, not replace us. But like to your point,

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Speaker 2: one of the problems with AI, and it goes to

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Speaker 2: the same thing with the lawyers, is people assume the

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Speaker 2: AI is right, when the AI is basically a moron

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Speaker 2: that has a huge database and can google that. Right,

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Speaker 2: So we doctors are going to have to be trained

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Speaker 2: how to use it and how not to say, well,

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Speaker 2: the computer said this, so it's this exactly. Well, that

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Speaker 2: will not be true no matter how much the technology advances.

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Speaker 1: Learning as a learning rate.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to use it as a friend and a support,

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Speaker 2: not a not a replacement.

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Speaker 1: Seven PM log in only empower your America Dot or

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Speaker 1: just register ahead of time and enjoy what Colin has

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Speaker 1: to say and learn a lot. And finally, before we

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Speaker 1: part company here real quickly, I note that from the

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Speaker 1: notes that you're going to addressing the ideas for the

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Speaker 1: conservative movement to master AI for its own purposes. Briefly,

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Speaker 1: where's that going, Colin?

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Speaker 2: Well, what that's all about is we're behind on the

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Speaker 2: left because the left made this stuff, so we have

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Speaker 2: to quickly put together, you know, some framework of how

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Speaker 2: we're going to use AI and not just you know,

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Speaker 2: the answer is not to just be a latite who

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01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 2: doesn't use it, because you're using it today even if

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01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 2: you don't know it, if you call your credit card company.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: But but you know, we can use it effectively for

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Speaker 2: our ends. But it's mostly not falling into the traps,

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Speaker 2: you know, falling not falling into the danger zones where

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Speaker 2: we brought our brains, especially for young people.

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Speaker 1: That's what we have. You callum Adaine Tech editors Breitbart

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Speaker 1: learn tonight seven pm. Empower you America dot org. Don't

2048
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Speaker 1: follow in the traps, listen to Colin has to say. Colin,

2049
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Speaker 1: you'll be back on the Morning Show at some point

2050
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Speaker 1: in the future. I'll look forward to that. In the meantime,

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01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:40,640
Speaker 1: thank you for everything that you and the team at

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01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 1: Breitbart does. I appreciate your efforts and I certainly rely

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Speaker 1: upon you in preparation for the Morning Show. Outstanding reporting there, sir.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian, and I hope everyone joins us tonight.

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Speaker 5: And power you.

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Speaker 1: Amen to that. Empower you America dot or You'll be

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Speaker 1: linked on my blog page fifty five KC dot com.

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Speaker 1: Have a great It is a twenty three on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and a happy one too. You're gonna do the Daniel

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Speaker 1: Davis deep dive. Now. Trump says the US is not

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Speaker 1: negotiating with the Iranian leader Kommani, but he is engaging

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Speaker 1: in ongoing talks with somebody. It seems to be have

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Speaker 1: a swirling mystery about who's in charge of Iran and

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Speaker 1: who's in a position to even negotiate to the extent

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Speaker 1: even negotiations are going on. So I'm first out of

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Speaker 1: the gate with Daniel Davis on that one because I'm

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Speaker 1: wildly curious to know maybe if he has any insight

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Speaker 1: on that. Retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis with a breakdown

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Speaker 1: of what's going on with Iran and the United States

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Speaker 1: Israel conflict in the next segment. Meantime, real quick here

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Speaker 1: it's called the Liberty Collective. Next Wednesday is listener Lunch.

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Speaker 1: And I keep joking at the name because it sounds

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Speaker 1: put the information on my Facebook page. But remember fellowship

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Speaker 1: call it that. In the meantime, stick around because in

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Speaker 1: the next segment we'll get to Daniel Davis Deep Dive

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Speaker 1: with retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis. I'll be right back

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Speaker 1: with Daniel Tired of a krc the talk station, A

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Speaker 1: twenty eight to fifty five KRCD talk station. Happy Tuesday

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Speaker 1: always made extra special with the return of retired Lieutenant

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Speaker 1: Colonel Daniel Davis doing what we all call the Daniel

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Speaker 1: Davis Deep Dive. You can find his podcast or if

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Speaker 1: you get your podcast, because I'm not the only one

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Speaker 1: who talks about throughout the week, but I'm glad we

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Speaker 1: get the opportunity to chat. Welcome back to the fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRS Morning Show, my friend Daniel Davis.

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Speaker 3: Always pleasure to be here.

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Speaker 1: Brian, Well, see if you can work this out for

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01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 1: me and apparently everybody else. What's going on now? On Saturday,

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Speaker 1: Trump said the US military would start launching strikes on

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Speaker 1: the country's energy infrastructure if no progress is made within

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Speaker 1: forty eight hours. Regarding reopening the Strait of Horn moves

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Speaker 1: now yesterday he said, well, hold on, I'm pausing those

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Speaker 1: attacks for five days because I've had productive of talks

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Speaker 1: with Iran. Now depending upon this is the danger of

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Speaker 1: reading headlines. Daniel Davis on one headline, you'll say Donald

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01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:57,800
Speaker 1: Trump has successful or you know, positive talks with Iran.

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01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:01,280
Speaker 1: Then the next headline iron says nobody's talking us. Well,

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Speaker 1: it depends on who you're talking to. Things are in

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Speaker 1: a state of disarray in the Iran with the Iranian

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Speaker 1: regime leaders being knocked off. We had that initial missile

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Speaker 1: strike which wiped out a big chunk of the higher

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Speaker 1: echelon Iranian leaders. They had the naming of a new

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Speaker 1: Supreme leader, this Mojaba Khamani guy, which many people are

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Speaker 1: calling the cardboard cut out a supreme leader because he

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Speaker 1: hasn't been seen in the news since being named Supreme Leader.

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Speaker 1: So his faction, the Iranian state media is saying nobody's

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Speaker 1: talking with Kamani, He's never talked with him. But Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump says, no, We're dealing with a man who I

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Speaker 1: believe is the most respected and the leader. So Trump

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Speaker 1: and his people apparently talking with someone with the Iranian regime,

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Speaker 1: but not the Supreme leader who's in control and who

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Speaker 1: is capable of even sitting down and discussing with US

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Speaker 1: or Israeli or anybody else settlement or peace or opening

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Speaker 1: up the straight Daniel Davis do you have any ideas

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Speaker 1: on that one.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, a lot of.

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Speaker 10: The confusion comes from reading Western press. There's no confusion

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Speaker 10: coming out of any of the Iranian side here. In fact,

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Speaker 10: I spoke yesterday with a professor at the University of Tehran.

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Speaker 10: I also spoke with Jeremy Scahill of drop site News,

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Speaker 10: who had been in extensive conversations with a number of

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Speaker 10: Iranian leaders and then they had put out on their

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Speaker 10: own social media they have one side there, and they

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Speaker 10: said that there are no negotiations, there are no talks,

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Speaker 10: and what indirect talks they are, which they acknowledged through

2145
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 10: intermedias or Egypt and Qatar have some pretty harsh terms

2146
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Speaker 10: of their own. It seems to be the US side

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01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 10: that's confusing what it is, and we're claiming, oh, it's

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01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 10: not mostioned, but it's actually somebody else. President Trump said

2149
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Speaker 10: it's some senior person that I'm not going to name.

2150
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:44,120
Speaker 10: But the Iranian sense says, no, there's just one guy

2151
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 10: in charge here, and there's many officials, just like there

2152
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 10: are in the United States State Department, Department Defense, the

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Speaker 10: White House, etc. So I think that we're making more

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01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:55,120
Speaker 10: of this in the Western media than is the case,

2155
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:58,080
Speaker 10: because the issue really isn't who's talking to who so

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01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 10: much as it is what are the side saying? Regardless

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01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 10: of who on the Uranian side you're talking to, what

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01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:05,240
Speaker 10: are they saying and what is the US saying? And

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Speaker 10: we still have a situation with radically different ideas about

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Speaker 10: what a negotiated settlement even looks like. Ironically, and perversely,

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Speaker 10: if I could say we had a good deal on

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Speaker 10: the table on the twenty seventh of touctually the twenty

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01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:22,840
Speaker 10: sixth of February, two days before this thing blew up,

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01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:24,960
Speaker 10: and now then the idea that we want to go

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Speaker 10: back to something like that, it just seems pretty unlikely

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Speaker 10: to me, because right now Iran has leverage over us

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01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:33,160
Speaker 10: that they didn't have before. So it seems pretty unlikely

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Speaker 10: that they're going to just give in because they get

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01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:37,240
Speaker 10: bombed for you know, three weeks or whatever it's been

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Speaker 10: up to this point. Iran has shown they can suffer

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Speaker 10: a long time. They suffer through eight years of the

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01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:45,480
Speaker 10: Iran Iraq War, they suffer through the war last year,

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01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 10: all kinds of sanctions by the United States. So if

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Speaker 10: we think there's going to be a quick reaction because

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Speaker 10: we bombed them a lot here. I don't think we

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01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 10: understand the nature of our adversary well.

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Speaker 1: And I've drawn the parallel the analogy that it's you know,

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Speaker 1: like the k or like the cornered wild animal. You know,

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Speaker 1: they find themselves in a position with life and death,

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Speaker 1: and they just go absolutely bersark. They're going to do

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Speaker 1: anything they want to keep the regime in power, even

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Speaker 1: if it's been limited substantially from their military capabilities.

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Speaker 10: Right well, I mean it it depends on how you

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Speaker 10: define limited capabilities. From their conventional navy. Yeah, that's been

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Speaker 10: virtually decimated. The conventional air force basically didn't even exist before.

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Speaker 10: But their air force, I mean there are a missile force,

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01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:29,360
Speaker 10: on the other hand, is quite substantial. Their actual naval capability,

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Speaker 10: especially with underwater capabilities, with the underwater missile slash torpedoes,

2189
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 10: drone boats, speed boats, most of those have not yet

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Speaker 10: even been brought into the fray, So those things are

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Speaker 10: still very much active. And of course everything focuses on

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01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:46,520
Speaker 10: the con strain of hormones. Who has control over that

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Speaker 10: and right now, for many many military reasons, Iran holds that,

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Speaker 10: so they hold the cards on keeping that open or not,

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Speaker 10: which is why we've released sanctions on Russia while we

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Speaker 10: release sanctions ironically on Iran itself, because we need that

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Speaker 10: flow of oil to come out. So that's what really

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Speaker 10: shows you the real nature of this and how concerned

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Speaker 10: we are in the White House despite a lot of

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Speaker 10: these optimistic statements coming out.

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Speaker 1: And recognizing Iron's got this stranglehold of the Strait of

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Speaker 1: Horn moves because of the minds and the ability to

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Speaker 1: sink those ships. Clearly it's shut it down. That's obviously

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Speaker 1: been effective demonstrably. So look, nobody's going through the world

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Speaker 1: suffering mightily because of it. But to that point, I see,

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Speaker 1: at least I have read that some of our European

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Speaker 1: allies maybe starting to move in the direction of helping

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Speaker 1: open up the straight of Horror moves. I was looking

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Speaker 1: at the terrible situation going to Australia. They obviously didn't

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Speaker 1: plan for the future, having enough reserves to last the

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Speaker 1: more than thirty days. Their green energy problem not mine.

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Speaker 1: But that's another country that will benefit from opening the

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Speaker 1: straight of Horror moves. Now. As much as everybody apparently

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02:00:44,960 --> 02:00:48,920
Speaker 1: hates evil Orange Man, this suggests to me that they're

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Speaker 1: going to have to get over that and say, listen,

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Speaker 1: for the benefit of our own economies, because we rely

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Speaker 1: so much unlike the US on the strait of horror mooves.

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Speaker 1: We got to get that thing open. So do you

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02:00:58,480 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 1: see that moving in that direction of me, that coming

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Speaker 1: to fruition?

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Speaker 3: Daniel, You know what I.

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Speaker 10: Don't, and I don't think we can also lose sight

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Speaker 10: of the fact that the only reason we're in the

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Speaker 10: war is because we chose to go into one. As

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Speaker 10: much as people like to say there was an eminent threat,

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Speaker 10: there's no evidence of an eminent thread. In fact, there's

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Speaker 10: evidence that there wasn't one. But now that we are

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Speaker 10: where we are, as you kind of say there. But

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Speaker 10: here's the thing, there is no military solution to solve

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Speaker 10: this problem.

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Speaker 3: There isn't one.

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Speaker 10: Iran has spent decades preparing a defense in the event

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Speaker 10: that they got into a full scale war, that they

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Speaker 10: had the resources and the logistics stored up in places

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Speaker 10: we can't get to them, and so far they're demonstrating

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02:01:37,200 --> 02:01:39,520
Speaker 10: they have it. So this is really a test of wheels.

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Speaker 10: Right now, you go in there with the navy. There's

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Speaker 10: a reason why our navy hasn't cleared this out yet,

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Speaker 10: why we haven't escorted ships because we know it would

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Speaker 10: be near suicide because of their capabilities. And then bringing

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Speaker 10: in somebody else, whether it's the Europeans or Australians, or

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Speaker 10: the Japanese or the South Koreas, it's not going to

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02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:57,040
Speaker 10: open it up. All it's going to do is create

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Speaker 10: more targets for the Iranian capabilit to shoot at here.

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Speaker 10: And that's why no one has done it to include us.

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Speaker 10: That shows you how difficult.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be to solve well. And recognizing

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Speaker 1: the rate of inflation going in or on, it seems

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Speaker 1: to me that, you know, whether they want to admit

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Speaker 1: it or not, resolving this on some level is going

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Speaker 1: to ultimately help their economy. I don't know how they

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02:02:19,720 --> 02:02:21,000
Speaker 1: can rebound from something like this.

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Speaker 10: Well, I'll tell you though, Brian. Here's the problem. If

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02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 10: that was on the table, number one, we probably wouldn't

2255
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Speaker 10: have gone to war in the first place. But we've

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Speaker 10: taken that off the table by saying it's regime change.

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Speaker 10: It's the destruction of the regime is what we're going for,

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02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 10: and so we have made it an existential threat. So

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Speaker 10: whether they're suffering economically, and they are, whether they're suffering

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02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:43,440
Speaker 10: because they're not getting as much oil out. Actually, so

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02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:45,800
Speaker 10: far they have been getting more out. It's very strange.

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02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:48,560
Speaker 10: It's like four hundred thousand barrels a day more that

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02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:51,400
Speaker 10: they've been getting out than they were before. So make

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02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:53,240
Speaker 10: that make sense. But the bottom line is, no matter

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02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:55,600
Speaker 10: how much they suffer, we've made it to so they

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02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:59,440
Speaker 10: almost can't surrender and give up because then the regime

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02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:01,960
Speaker 10: would fall. So now that they as your analogy is

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02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 10: second ago, now that we put them into a corner

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02:03:04,400 --> 02:03:06,680
Speaker 10: to where it's fight or die, and they're going to

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02:03:06,720 --> 02:03:09,000
Speaker 10: fight all the way through, and they have resources, they

2271
02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:09,800
Speaker 10: can drag this out.

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Speaker 1: A long time well interesting op at piece by Gerard

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Speaker 1: Baker that I thought was rather a stude the idea

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Speaker 1: of this asymmetric war. Yes, or military might overwhelms the

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02:03:18,040 --> 02:03:21,600
Speaker 1: Iranian military might, but they will decline. Winning for the

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02:03:21,640 --> 02:03:27,800
Speaker 1: Iranians would allow just keeping their their I guess control

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02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:30,560
Speaker 1: structure in place to some degree, the same folks running

2278
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:32,800
Speaker 1: the country, which is a much.

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Speaker 10: An important point the military balance of power. When you

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02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:38,920
Speaker 10: look at the spreadsheets, it's just off the charts in

2281
02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:40,800
Speaker 10: our favor, there's no question about it. And you add

2282
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:44,040
Speaker 10: in Israel to that as well. But the issue is

2283
02:03:44,360 --> 02:03:47,080
Speaker 10: what is going to be necessary to win for us.

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Speaker 10: We have set a very very high bar, which in

2285
02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:52,040
Speaker 10: my view is too high, given the fact that Iran

2286
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Speaker 10: is four times bigger than the country of Iraq and

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Speaker 10: we have no ground force, and by the way, it's

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02:03:58,280 --> 02:04:00,920
Speaker 10: not even four times bigger than i rocket's also the terrain,

2289
02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:05,240
Speaker 10: which overwhelming you because of these massive mountain ranges advantages

2290
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:08,400
Speaker 10: the defender in ways that Iran couldn't do Iraq couldn't

2291
02:04:08,440 --> 02:04:11,200
Speaker 10: do in twentyd and three nineteen ninety one. So they

2292
02:04:11,320 --> 02:04:16,440
Speaker 10: have enormous advantages territorially and geographically, and so we have

2293
02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:18,360
Speaker 10: to go in there and say we're going to decimate

2294
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:21,960
Speaker 10: their military. We're gonna get rid of their regime, We're

2295
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:24,720
Speaker 10: gonna get rid of the nuclear capabilities, and then we're

2296
02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:27,200
Speaker 10: going to get rid of their long range missiles and

2297
02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:29,960
Speaker 10: their proxy forces. Those are targets that we have set

2298
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 10: the militarily, those are just nearly impossible to gain, at

2299
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:36,080
Speaker 10: least in any kind of a short term. Meanwhile, the

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Speaker 10: Iranian side, all they have to do is two things.

2301
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Speaker 10: They have to survive politically to remain viable, and then

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02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:45,320
Speaker 10: they have to have a viable military, sustained rate of

2303
02:04:45,400 --> 02:04:48,080
Speaker 10: fire with missiles and with their drones. They don't have

2304
02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:50,840
Speaker 10: to blow away everything and eliminate Iran or anything, or

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02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:53,440
Speaker 10: Israel or anything else. They've just got to stay vible

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02:04:53,520 --> 02:04:56,520
Speaker 10: and just keep on shooting and keep on hitting targets,

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02:04:56,800 --> 02:05:00,520
Speaker 10: which they're doing. Then they will eventually politically win, just

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02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:04,600
Speaker 10: like the Taliban outlasted US, just like Vietnam. Vietnam outlasted

2309
02:05:04,720 --> 02:05:07,520
Speaker 10: US so many times, so many examples. You can think

2310
02:05:07,560 --> 02:05:10,480
Speaker 10: of a weaker power that was decimated by a stronger

2311
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:13,800
Speaker 10: military power. Look at Russia Ukraine for that. Ukraine's the

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02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:16,360
Speaker 10: weaker power, but they've never given up, and they've you know,

2313
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Speaker 10: four plus years now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So all the.

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Speaker 10: Recent evidence shows that if acide has the will and

2316
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:24,760
Speaker 10: it believes it's an existential fat they can go for

2317
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Speaker 10: a long time.

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Speaker 1: Most notably, and that seems to be the foregone conclusion

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02:05:29,400 --> 02:05:32,440
Speaker 1: here given the limited amount of military power, you need

2320
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Speaker 1: to keep the straight of Hormus shut down. So, and

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Speaker 1: I got to ask you this because I have not

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Speaker 1: seen anybody talking about it. I'm of the mindset that

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Speaker 1: TikTok tikkok, going back to your part, that this wasn't

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02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:46,240
Speaker 1: an eminent threat. The clock on the War Powers Resolution

2325
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Speaker 1: is ticking, isn't it? Sixty days without express authority, a

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02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:52,760
Speaker 1: waging of war by Congress or an authorization for you

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02:05:52,880 --> 02:05:56,480
Speaker 1: some military force, neither of which we have. Sixty days

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Speaker 1: plus an extension of thirty days under the War Powers

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Speaker 1: Resolution is all you get. Does that mean at the

2330
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Speaker 1: end of let's say ninety days, we're going to have

2331
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:05,960
Speaker 1: to pull the plug on this. No, let's just be

2332
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:08,880
Speaker 1: honest that the War Powers Act doesn't exist. It's a

2333
02:06:08,920 --> 02:06:10,360
Speaker 1: piece of paper with no power.

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Speaker 10: The constitutional separation of powers also doesn't exist because we

2335
02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:17,360
Speaker 10: blew through both of those. Nineteen seventy three War Powers

2336
02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:20,839
Speaker 10: Act does not say, despite popular belief, that the president

2337
02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:23,560
Speaker 10: has sixty days to do whatever he wants. It expressly

2338
02:06:23,640 --> 02:06:26,200
Speaker 10: says you only can use the military as the commander

2339
02:06:26,200 --> 02:06:28,640
Speaker 10: in chief if there has been a declaration of war,

2340
02:06:28,880 --> 02:06:31,440
Speaker 10: statutory authorization, or we were attacked.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 10: No other possibilities, no other authorized use of it. The

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Speaker 10: only thing about sixty days is if we have been

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Speaker 10: attacked and he responds, then he has sixty days in

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Speaker 10: order to respond. So those are not even related to

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Speaker 10: what's claimed that he has braded the freedom of action.

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Speaker 10: But since we didn't do anything about the Constitution itself,

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Speaker 10: which says only Congress can declare war, and this is

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Speaker 10: absolutely one hundred percent of war, and we didn't get

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Speaker 10: statutory authorization with the War Powers Act, that means it

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Speaker 10: neither one of those hold any power at all. Nobody

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Speaker 10: is going to follow that law. We just have to

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Speaker 10: be honest about it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that seems been sort of the kind of ad

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Speaker 1: hoc approach we've taken since World War Two with most

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Speaker 1: of the conflicts we've been involved with, Daniel, it's a fact.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, this is not something new to Trump administration. Now

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Speaker 10: he's taken it further than anybody else has, but virtually

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Speaker 10: every president has blown these things often. This is the

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Speaker 10: consequence is now it's not just a missile strike here

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Speaker 10: and there or a small action, but now it's a

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Speaker 10: full blown war that nobody in America had a chance

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Speaker 10: to even say anything about. No one was to asked,

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Speaker 10: and we haven't followed our law. So it's worse than

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Speaker 10: it was.

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Speaker 1: Well, going back to my comment about maybe the other

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Speaker 1: countries who've been financially impacted by the strait of horror moves,

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Speaker 1: perhaps stepping up to the challenge in spite of the

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Speaker 1: impossible nature of it, as you declared it, it is.

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm kind of a little concerned about that

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Speaker 1: whole idea of World War three, so all those countries together.

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Speaker 1: But then I've read reports that the Russians are helping

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Speaker 1: the Iranians with intelligent signal intelligence and other intelligence, target

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Speaker 1: striking and things. So the Russians are sort of using

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Speaker 1: iran as a proxy to keep this thing going.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they are, and Shinese too. There's plenty of evidence

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Speaker 10: open source even much less classified information, and they're definitely

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Speaker 10: doing that. The Iranians have confirmed that that's that they're

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Speaker 10: getting some kind of limited help. There's also some kind

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Speaker 10: of material help there's been playing. Those are things coming

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Speaker 10: in from multiple countries and we can only guess what's

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Speaker 10: inside of that. But it's one of those where the

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Speaker 10: chickens come home to roost kind of deal. Obviously, that's

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Speaker 10: what we've been doing for four plus years in Ukraine

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Speaker 10: against Russia, and now then they're returning the favor so

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Speaker 10: far in smaller levels, but it is happening, and it

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Speaker 10: does appear to be useful and helpful to the Uranian side.

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Speaker 1: I suppose turnabout's fair play. We do that all the

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Speaker 1: time with foreign conflicts, don't we. Daniel Davis, what the

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Speaker 1: CIA is for, right, Daniel Davis, Well, Daniel Davis, deeve Di,

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Speaker 1: I've always a great having on the fifty five Cassey

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Speaker 1: more so. Oh, and I've got to ask this out

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Speaker 1: because somebody was screaming at the radio. You're talking about

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Speaker 1: reliance on sort of Iranian media and Middle Eastern media

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Speaker 1: being a little bit better than and more reliable than

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Speaker 1: the domestic. Somebody out there in the in the a

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Speaker 1: listening audience probably was screaming, Yeah, well, bag dad, Bob,

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Speaker 1: how can we trust anything those damn Iranians say or

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Speaker 1: the other Middle East countries that may be caught into

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Speaker 1: the side of the Iranians. Just very quick on that topic, Daniel.

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Speaker 10: You gotta be careful not to say, Okay, because they

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Speaker 10: said it, it's untrue, and because we said it it

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Speaker 10: is true. And that's exactly what I see. And if

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Speaker 10: you're just looking at what's true, you got to look

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Speaker 10: at what happens on the ground. And so far they

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Speaker 10: have been able to hit their targets, they have gotten

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Speaker 10: through the air defense systems. The straight remains closed. Our

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Speaker 10: navy hasn't gone in. So if you're looking at what

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Speaker 10: the reality is, you can make your own definitions.

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Speaker 1: That boils it down quite nicely, and I appreciate your

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Speaker 1: addressing that. Daniel Davis, What do this again? Next Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Davis Deep Dive, wherever you get your podcasts. Have

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Speaker 1: a great week, sir, Thanks again for your time.

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Speaker 10: Thank you very much, see you next time.

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