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Speaker 2: They're old.

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Speaker 2: I'm being highly critical. I'm being viciously critical.

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Speaker 2: You're not that bright. They don't have guts, and that's

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Speaker 2: And that is all the people need to know.

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Speaker 1: There is just no way the Steelers can fix that

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Speaker 1: And he's fat and he doesn't know, and we're good

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Speaker 1: the Steelers can win on Sunday. But again, I'm getting

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Speaker 1: Like now, I'm like, you know, I mean, you fat

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Speaker 2: One guy, I didn't I should? I should I say

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Speaker 1: One guy a few a few months, I guess it

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Speaker 1: so I'm going to wax optimistic. Here's how the Steelers

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Speaker 2: I mean it. It never get away with it.

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Speaker 1: The field at Acquasher is unplayable and the game is hauleded,

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Speaker 1: I know what Vegas knows, and it is a way

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Speaker 4: Afternoon, the Mark Madden, What do you want?

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Speaker 2: What do you want? Damn it? The X at one

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Speaker 1: We've got a bit of time to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: At A three three four one two WXDX here's Colin

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Speaker 1: Coward on Fox wondering if Aaron Rodgers not realize that

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Speaker 5: I think Aaron now realizes what we had said before

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh's got issues too. They just have a better infrastructure

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Speaker 5: and ownership. But both the Jets Jets feel loose and outdated,

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Speaker 5: and so do the Steelers. So I think Aaron's doing

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Speaker 2: They're not a current franchise. If the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Have a better infrastructured ownership than the Jets, it's by default.

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Speaker 1: I think that's true. But again it's by default. I

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Speaker 1: and one is that he won't be back in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: The defensive approach is overwhelming. It's just not the way

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Speaker 1: and plus which the defense stinks. Emphasizing it is one thing.

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Speaker 1: Having it fail miserably is another. The Steelers approach outdated.

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Speaker 1: I've said that, Coward said that, and now Rogers is

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Speaker 4: Nick, you're on with Mark, Hey, Mark, My question is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're just not going to fire them.

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Speaker 3: You understand that, right, Yeah, of course I understand that.

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Speaker 2: No, No to me.

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Speaker 1: To me, the final straw should be that the emphasizes

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Speaker 1: defense was is outdated. They've spent more money on defense

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you for the call.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I made pretty clear, it's probably not doing

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Speaker 1: I hate talking about this Steeler game because nothing's gonna change.

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Speaker 2: No deviation, no invention.

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Speaker 1: Only injuries ever changed the Steelers lineup and and tactically

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Speaker 1: Shane Steiken made Danny Dimes an MVP candidate.

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Speaker 2: I'm not really a Steeler fan.

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Speaker 1: I know most of you are, and to a rabid degree,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how you're not more frustrated and more angry.

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Speaker 1: Other shows talk about ways to fix it and get better,

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Speaker 1: And I think they know that, Paul I can I

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Speaker 2: Does it really help anything at all?

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Speaker 3: they need That's why they use high Smith, because he's

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Speaker 3: better in that role. But I think that's a lot

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Speaker 3: of just nonsense. But of course I don't watch the

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Speaker 3: All twenty two Paul.

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Speaker 1: If I ever do watch the All twenty twos, I

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Speaker 1: want you to hit me the end with a hammer

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Speaker 1: and throw me.

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Speaker 2: Down to mind shaft.

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Speaker 1: We're ignoring the obvious guy who's been good. I have

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Speaker 1: no complains whatsoever about Aaron Rodgers, not on the field,

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Speaker 1: not off the field, not playing, not talking. He's been

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Speaker 1: a leader. He's done everything he could do.

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Speaker 3: You're correct, Uh, he's been very good.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know all the narratives about what he was gonna

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna bring all kinds of grief and

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Speaker 3: you know he's gonna divide the locker room and all

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Speaker 3: the other nonsense. I mean, guys said and done everything

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Speaker 3: the right way. Since he's been here, it's pretty clear.

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Speaker 3: You know, he wants to be here, wants to win.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think DK that cap has played Okay,

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: He's been He's been disappointing. He hasn't been a game breaker,

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Speaker 1: and there's been a few drops. But I'm not sure,

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Speaker 1: how much of his underachieving is totally on him?

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Speaker 3: Right? I mean, if you look at him, he's been

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Speaker 3: their best probably their best player on offense in many ways.

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Speaker 3: But you also look at the fact that he's a

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Speaker 3: thirty million dollar guy and you're like, well, they should

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Speaker 3: get more from him, out of him. I mean, last

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks, it seems like prior Meth has played Okay,

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Speaker 3: you know, here's the one guy that baffles me. Why

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Speaker 3: the hell did they bring John new Smith here? Right?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it seems like they have no plan for him,

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Speaker 3: no reason at all, rhyme or reason for how they

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Speaker 3: use him. It makes absolutely no sense the way that

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Speaker 3: they use him or don't use him. I don't understand

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Speaker 3: why they brought him here if he's just gonna be

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Speaker 3: sort of a guy that every so often that seems

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Speaker 3: like they throw a six yard past you.

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Speaker 1: Here's the big story coming up Sunday, and I've I've

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Speaker 1: gone out of my way actually to watch a couple

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Speaker 1: of their games recently. Indianapolis is an offensive juggernaut. I

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Speaker 1: watched them on TV. If I were the other team,

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Speaker 1: if I played defense against him, I just wouldn't know

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Speaker 1: what to do.

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Speaker 2: They come at you from everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, of course, I mean they they do. And

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Speaker 3: I think one of the things that people said when

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Speaker 3: they hired you know, Saint Stichen was that that's gonna

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Speaker 3: be his m O. That you know, he's a guy

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Speaker 3: that's very forward thinking. And but but the other part

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Speaker 3: of it is, and you know, I was reading a

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Speaker 3: little bit they just kind of getting ready for you know,

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Speaker 3: writing some preview stuff and whatnot. But the other thing is,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they they really believe that the best unit

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Speaker 3: they have on the entire field is their offensive line.

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Speaker 3: That this is the best offensive line they've had since

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Speaker 3: probably the days of Peyton Nanny.

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Speaker 1: So right now the cornerstone guy with Nelson too, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that line has everything.

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Speaker 3: Right, They and and and they and they. You know,

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Speaker 3: they obviously have the running back. They obviously have a quarterback, which,

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Speaker 3: by the way, the last time I think I watched

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Speaker 3: h Danny Dimes play at Akroshuer Stadium, I think it

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Speaker 3: was still called Heinsfield at the time. He was destroying

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Speaker 3: paton Ardozy's defense. He was and and by the way,

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Speaker 3: one of the eleven on that defense was my Subtileza.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, they although he actually played pretty well that day,

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Speaker 3: Believe it or not, but Danny Dimes is through through

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Speaker 3: balls all over the play.

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Speaker 2: Great story, Danny Dimes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he went from he went from Polukaville in

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Speaker 1: New York, which supposedly a decent offensive line, and dabbled

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Speaker 1: down there, and now he's in Indianapolis and he's a

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Speaker 1: legitimate MVP candidate.

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Speaker 3: Well, I might speak volumes about saying psyching actually yep, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, and his offense and his ability to work

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Speaker 3: with quarterbacks and whatnot. I mean that's just sort of

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Speaker 3: you know, probably the story there. But you know what

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Speaker 3: I tell you when I but the story when I mean,

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Speaker 3: when I saw him play at Duke against Pitt that day,

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Speaker 3: I thought, this dude is going to be the man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this dude's got every throw. He's pretty applet

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Speaker 3: you know, reasonably athletic. He can move, he's got you know,

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Speaker 3: the deep balls, he's got you know, the intermediates, he's

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Speaker 3: he's accurate, he's on time, he's got a quick release.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, this guy's got a shout to be a star.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know why it didn't work in New York,

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Speaker 3: but really, in some ways doesn't surprise me that, you know,

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Speaker 3: the right quarterback, coach and the right situation, you know,

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Speaker 3: he was able to bring that out of him.

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Speaker 2: Paul, Uh, Well, the Steelers win Sunday? Will they win

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Speaker 2: the division? Will they make the playoffs? That's a three parter.

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Speaker 3: Three parter. Will they win Sunday? I'm gonna go out

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Speaker 3: on the limit and say, yes, lose to the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Lose to the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: How about win the division?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think Baltimore might run the table. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson back, looks like they fixed some things on

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Speaker 3: the defense. They got the Steelers twice. I think Baltimore

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Speaker 3: is gonna win the division and then uh, I think

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Speaker 3: the Steelers will be a team that makes the wild card.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if two teams are gonna make the

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Speaker 1: playoffs from that division.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. I think that could be tough. And

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Speaker 3: I'm looking around the rest of you know, the divisions,

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Speaker 3: the ANFC East, I guess New England and Buffalo, you

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Speaker 3: know have a shot to make it. You know, the

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Speaker 3: AFC South, I'm not sure he was even good in

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Speaker 3: that in that division, and the AFC West I guess

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Speaker 3: you're right. There are two teams, you know, but Denver

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Speaker 3: is a steaky team that seems to be hanging around,

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Speaker 3: and so do the Chargers, and obviously the teams are

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Speaker 3: gonna make it. So I'm I'm wow, that is really

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Speaker 3: a difficult one. I think that you're right. If they

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Speaker 3: don't win the division, no, they're not gonna make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's my thing. I think they're gonna either make

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Speaker 1: it or miss it. And I mean by that I

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Speaker 1: mean the division in the playoffs by one game. I

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Speaker 1: think they'll be in it till the last game of

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Speaker 1: the season, which is what they, you know, always strive

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Speaker 1: to do. But you know they're gonna be one game in,

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Speaker 1: one game out, because that is the steelerway, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the thing about it is next year

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Speaker 3: if they get if they do what you're saying and

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Speaker 3: they don't make the playoffs, next year, they'll raise the banner.

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Speaker 3: You know, they already have. They never had a winning

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Speaker 3: losing season banner. They can they can have the we're

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Speaker 3: in it till the end of the season every year.

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Speaker 7: Banner.

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Speaker 3: That's right, because that seems to be that seems to

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Speaker 3: be what we celebrate nowadays.

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Speaker 1: To be fair, that is what's best for business. Paul,

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Speaker 1: great stuff. Will do it again next week.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks brother, we'll see it man.

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Speaker 1: That's Paul zeiss Uh. We have Joshhey at the top

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Speaker 1: of the hour talking Penguins hockey