1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:01,360 Speaker 1: Guards. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 2: One thing has become fairly clear to me in the 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: last twenty four to thirty six hours. And this isn't 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 2: the first time I've come to this conclusion. You know, 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: we could use more than anything else at a time 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: like this, as we're all trying to assess and process 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: another controversy, in this case, another tragedy, we could use 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: a moratorium. 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: As sad as this is. 10 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: To say, on pretending that A you're doing nothing but 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: fan the flames of rhetoric and jumping to grand conclusions 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: that only inflame the situation. But I'm lowering the temperature, 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: because let's be clear and honest about it, most of 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: the people who are patting themselves in the back were 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: saying they're lowering the temperature. I'm talking about politicians, obviously, 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: I'm talking about elected officials here. 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: They often forget what. 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: They said maybe on the last controversy or the one 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: before that, or five minutes ago. 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it cracks me up. 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: I mean today the governor was trying to go with 22 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: the well, you haven't heard me say some of the 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: things that some of the other people have, and I'm going, well. 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: Did you listen to yourself yesterday? 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: So we would I think at this point, my suggestion 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: would be is it would be stop pretending that you're 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: we're all in this cesspool. 28 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: Let's just admit. 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: We're all in it, and sadly we are all fanning 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: the flames in various ways to various degrees. Because none 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: of the lectures are making any sense to me. Everybody 32 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: says it, right, well, that's what they did, not what 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: I did. Are their degrees. I'll grant you their degrees. 34 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: You know, the Christy Gnome degree is probably defcon one, 35 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: but so would I would rather they Let's just here's 36 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: what we're gonna do. I'm gonna tell my speech writers, 37 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: let's not get into that. 38 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: Let's stay away from the thermostatic. 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 2: Stay away from the thermostat thing exactly because I may 40 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: be fraudulent on it. No one's gonna listen to me anyway, 41 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: even if I think that's what I'm obligated to do, 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: because reporters say, isn't it your obligation and responsibility at. 43 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: A time like this to lower the rhetoric to bring 44 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: the temperature down, And. 45 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: There's no consistency to it, and so to me, there's 46 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 2: no credibility when you try to go down that road, 47 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: so you're better off just avoid it, find other ways 48 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: to make whatever point you want to make, rather than 49 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: go down that road or fall into that trap. Because 50 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how many of these politicians can say 51 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: any of it with a straight face. I don't, I don't. 52 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: I heard the governor yesterday. I heard the mayor yesterday. 53 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: I heard the President of the United States yesterday. I 54 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: don't know if I've heard him yet today. Speaking today, I 55 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: heard the VP today. And what often happens is it's 56 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 2: it's it's a game of omission. It's what you leave 57 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: out that always makes me suspect you and makes it 58 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: hard for me to believe you. And in the course 59 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: the case of Vice President, he leaves out the rhetoric 60 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: from his boss that I think most ordinary people would say. 61 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that lowers the temperature helps matters, or 62 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: if part of your concern and fear is a belief 63 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: that ICE members have been assaulted too often or confronted 64 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: too often, if you leave out the rhetoric of your boss, 65 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: that leads to much of the anger that then gets 66 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: vented upon the ICE individuals, I can't take you very seriously. 67 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: I heard Attorney General of Minnesota Keith Ellison on CNN 68 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: earlier today. I don't know if you heard it, did not, 69 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 2: And it was with two anchors included, one of them 70 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: was Wolf Blitzer, and they both asked him about what 71 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: he thought of what Renee Nicole Good was doing that 72 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 2: day yesterday, and Ellison said, well, basically, I'm paraphrasing, she's 73 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: exercising her American right, First Amendment right to protest. 74 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: We protect that right, we believe in that right. 75 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: And I'm screaming at I'm actually listening to this on 76 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: the radio, even though it's a TV show, and I'm 77 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: I'm not screaming that's that's a bit of a bit 78 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: of hyperbole. But I'm muttering, well, left a piece of 79 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: this out. Are they going to force you to go there? 80 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: Or are they just going to let it go? And 81 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: they let it go. And so what they didn't ask, 82 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: which was a was a perfectly legitimate question that, by 83 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: the way, in asking it doesn't mean you are endorsing 84 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: the notion that this woman deserved to be killed, but 85 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: it is part of the story if you're following the story. 86 00:05:52,240 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 2: So why not ask an Attorney General Ellison what a 87 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: the fact that she had put her vehicle in a 88 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: place that was clearly an attempt to inhibit whatever the 89 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: activities were, and whatever you think of these activities, that 90 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: that's part of what she was doing. Didn't ask it, 91 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: and he didn't volunteer it. You can't explore this story 92 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: again not suggesting or even hinting that that means this 93 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: woman got what she deserved. Now what I'm saying at all, 94 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: But I'm saying if you don't have a willingness to 95 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: acknowledge all aspects of what got us to that point 96 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: and what she had done, because he's making it sound 97 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: like she's out there with a placard walking up and 98 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: down the street protesting the activities of whatever Ice was 99 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: up to on that particular occasion, Right, that's the impression 100 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: he's giving. Well, that leaves out part of the story 101 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: that should not be And if you leave it out, 102 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: what are you telling me. You're telling me that you're 103 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: going to fix the story and you're going to remember 104 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: and emphasize what suits you and what fits what you 105 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: believe this story represents. And I don't think it should 106 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: be mutually exclusive. What I'm saying is you can still 107 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: come to the conclusion that the officer shot recklessly and 108 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: that there should be charges filed on the basis of 109 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: the way that the event played out. But you can't 110 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: leave out as part of the story if you're being honest. 111 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: This is why I don't think anybody gets trusted, whether 112 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: it's the VP earlier today or Keith Ellison on CNN. 113 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: When you leave out the pieces that don't quite fit 114 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: what you've decided already, even though you've told everybody to 115 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: let the process play out, then you're telling me you 116 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: can't totally be trusted on that story. You can't leave 117 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: out where her vehicle was, what her attention was by 118 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: putting her vehicle there, and that she did not get 119 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: out of the car when they very rudely but nevertheless 120 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: told her to get out of the car. You can't 121 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: leave those pieces out if you're gonna convince me that 122 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 2: you want to follow the story. 123 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: Wherever, indeed it might go. So how much. 124 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how much more there is 125 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 2: to say today already. I don't know how much new 126 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: information we have. We have some new information on the shooter, 127 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: we have a lot more information on the victim. 128 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: But I would just say. 129 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: Eliminate the part of that speech you feel, you know, 130 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: you're obligated to get to regarding lowering the temperature because 131 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: you don't mean it, or you mean it when it 132 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: fits and suits your purpose, and you mean it if 133 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: it doesn't get in the way of whatever hiring of 134 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: the raising of the temperature that you feel is necessary 135 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: to get your point across. Just I think we'd be 136 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: more honest we said that. But that's the game. And frankly, 137 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 2: some of that is media generated because that's one of 138 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: the questions that you get right almost why don't you 139 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: have an obligation to do this, this and this, And 140 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: there are a number of individuals who have not come 141 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: close to doing it, but they want to keep talking 142 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: about stop talking about it. Do you want to talk 143 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: about the specifics of the case, do that. If you 144 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 2: want to talk about the larger implications of what this 145 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: case represents, do that too. But you're not fooling anybody 146 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: about the temperature lowering thing because you only really pay 147 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: attention to to it when it suits you, and you 148 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: forget again. In the case of the governor, what he 149 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 2: said as recently as yesterday, it's just bizarre. Now I 150 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: don't think he was as frontal as the mayor. But 151 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: we talked about this is it's all degrees right, so 152 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: in any case, that's in fairness. That's pretty much where 153 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: I'm at with this thing, and we'll be in and 154 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 2: out of the story today. Bumper to Bumper is the 155 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: name of the program, Barrero and Guardsy. I'll be here 156 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: at six thirty. You have to bow out. What about 157 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: four thirty? Four to fifteen? 158 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: Right right around there yet. 159 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: And we have a well not as busy as show 160 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: as I would have hoped, because it looks like Sean 161 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: Salisbury might be. 162 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: Unavailable today. Is that correct? 163 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 3: He is at three thirty. I don't know if the 164 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: five thirty will work. He hasn't gotten back to smoke 165 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 3: at but three availed you propose that as an option, 166 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: so we'll see. If we get lucky, we'll get him. 167 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: We do have Russo Radio schedule for five h two today, 168 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: and we have our favorite geopolitical big knocker, Michael Hurley 169 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: at four fifteen. Now Hurley, the inspiration for Hurley had 170 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: nothing to do with this particular story and more to 171 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: do with the international relations what the Maduro story and 172 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: several others Greenland included. So my guess is with Michael 173 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: will go down those roads. Although as a Minneapolis guy. 174 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: It's a Minnesota guy. I mean, I know he's paying 175 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: close attention and is quite concerned with what's going on here, 176 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: so he may have some thoughts there as well. 177 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: I did. Finally, I'm so derelic these days. 178 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: I was reminded by the roycecolumn via startubun dot com 179 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: about the return of Eric, another muscleman to the barn 180 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: usc taking on the Gophers. It's tomorrow night, correct seven, 181 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: right here on the fan, right here on the fan, 182 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: right here on the fan. And I you know, we've 183 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: had a good relationship with Eric over the years, had 184 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: him on many many times, so I DMed him. 185 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any shot. 186 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: I even proposed five point fifty five, maybe a quick 187 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: ten minute. In any case, we'll see exactly how that 188 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: plays out if we If we get lucky, we get lucky, 189 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. Bratsa and Brian Camfean text 190 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: line is open at six four six eighty six. 191 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: But let's let's get a. 192 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: Quick pause in because we're now as of now at 193 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: least guest free until about four or fifteen. We'll give 194 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: you a chance if you have any other thoughts to 195 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: add to this story and couple cover a couple of 196 00:12:26,840 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: other toy department items as well, Stay tuned. The experiment 197 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: yesterday was to not spend a lot of time on 198 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 2: the branch on Brian kfan. 199 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: Text on a lot. 200 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: Ultimately we did when Andy Luger was on UH and 201 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: we quoted a texter who referred to him as a blowhard, 202 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: and he responded to that, you're the producer of the show. 203 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a choice. I'm gonna let you 204 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: make the call on this. Oh wow, because we have 205 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: extra time, we think without guests right now at least correct. 206 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: So there is a way to go regarding the branch 207 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: on Brian kfan text line that is less volatile potentially, 208 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: and that is I just read like because we've already 209 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: got several thousand texts of that, So I just read 210 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: a bunch. Don't comment on him, don't blow my cork. 211 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: Just let them. 212 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: Lie and let the listeners respond and react in their 213 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 2: own minds to them, or we just go forward with 214 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: the show and we let you get in this discussion. Oh, 215 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: I don't need to be in the discussion. I know 216 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 2: you don't need to be. You have a good head 217 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: on your shoulders, so I try. 218 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. 219 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: So it might be an interesting experiment. However, I feel 220 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: like we know the results of the experiment already in 221 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 3: what sense? 222 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: Oh, just well it will it? 223 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: Does it serve any purpose to give the range, the 224 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: dramatic range of opinion as people apparently process the single 225 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: same story. 226 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it might serve that purpose. Maybe it just depresses us. 227 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: Is that your concern? 228 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: Well, it does, because I think we already know the 229 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: answer to that, to that experiment that we are going 230 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: to see an extremely wide range all over the place, 231 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: right right, Like I don't know, because my thing yesterday 232 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: was nobody surprised us yesterday. No, I don't think anybody 233 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: surprised us yesterday. No, that's true, and I'm talking about anybody. 234 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: And you kind of hit on that a little bit 235 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: with the rhetoric conversation in the first segment, will anything 236 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: surprise us in the batch of Brian campaign text line? 237 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: And you tell me if you're surprised by them? Okay, 238 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 3: can track that way. Maybe this will help us. We'll laugh, 239 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: we'll laugh through these a little bit. 240 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: Well maybe maybe maybe not. Let's get to it. My God, 241 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: the ones I wanted to save are already. 242 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: Hold on, Oh, I'll start with this one, all right, 243 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: because I'm, as you know, self deprecating to a fall 244 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: of course, absolutely atrocious. 245 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: Take Dan. 246 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: I've been a fan of your show for twelve years, 247 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: and I honestly don't think I can listen anymore after that. 248 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, what specifically I said, 249 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: but that's the text. I'm not going to respond to it. Okay, 250 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: the only ice at Minnesota wantson at State comes from 251 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: the weather, not the government. Hashtag ice. Get the bleep out. 252 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: I thought he was going to say, hashtag our ice. Well, 253 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: it's possible. 254 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: Did the Wild have to change their slogan, by the way, 255 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: even though they haven't used that in like fifteen years. 256 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I don't know. 257 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: None of this would have happened if ice didn't come 258 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: to Minneapolis. I don't disagree with that, but I say, 259 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: I'm already violating my terms. I'm just going to read them. 260 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: That's what you sah, you love that Trumps president. All 261 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: you do with your show is cry about him, so 262 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: it keeps you employed. Still, I appreciate your willingness to 263 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: bring an intellectually honest perspective to this situation. 264 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: Nice set of stones. Hey Joe, who's Joe? 265 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: When the Trump administration came up with this ice program, 266 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: I was offered thinking it would be a good way 267 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: to get a lot of these illegals out of the 268 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: country that were led in over the Biden administration. Not 269 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: saying they're doing it the right way. Not everything they 270 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: do I agree with, but this deal yesterday. I didn't 271 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: see the video until I got home last night. After 272 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: watching the video of my opinion is that when this 273 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: guy says he was fearing for his life, it is BS. 274 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: He knows it and everyone knows it. As she was 275 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: going forward, her wheels already were turned the other way 276 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: and I lost that text. But well, there it is, 277 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: And what's Joe? I have no idea in Scarborough. That's 278 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: a good question. This is John from Hastings. Maybe he 279 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: can explain it. Maybe it was a dictated one. Dan, 280 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: sorry if this has been covered, but has video eliminated 281 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: in this until proven guilty? Not taking a side here, 282 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: but it seems both parties involved have already been proven 283 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: innocent or guilty to fit a narrative. Trying the case 284 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: on TV and podcasts truly inflames the situation with out discovery. 285 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 2: I don't know the answer I find. I need to 286 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: turn it off. That's Dan from Owatana. Now one of 287 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 2: the texts. I don't know if I can find it 288 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: because there's so many here in a row, and I 289 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 2: should have starred them right away. 290 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: Was that? Well? I think I responded to one of them. 291 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: Let me see if I can scroll down to the 292 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: green response and will get me to the right place. Oh, Dan, 293 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: the victim was driving home. This is seven oh one guy. 294 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: She was then one told to get out of her 295 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: car and to move her car. See the damn videos. 296 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: Don't attack Ellison. You are better than that. Thanks, And 297 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 2: I said, well, that's interesting. Does that mean Keith Elson 298 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 2: is misinformed because he was suggesting she was protesting in 299 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: his mind lawfully right? Is there new information indicating that 300 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: she was not there to protest at all, that she 301 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: was not part of any thing, but caught in a 302 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: traffic jam that we have missed. He glad to pass 303 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: that along if we get more information on it. If 304 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: that officer thought his life was in danger, he needs 305 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: to be behind a desk. Dan, I think the big 306 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: question should be Why did the woman take off like 307 00:18:52,760 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: that in the first place? Umpciate cesspole state, cesspool statements, 308 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 2: spot on. My dad used to say, there's the truth, 309 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: and there's the whole truth. Unfortunately for us. You can 310 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: control the thermostat from basically anywhere with an app on 311 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: your phone. 312 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's some smart homes now. 313 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 2: Dan, I'm sure glad you weren't around after they dumped 314 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 2: the tea in Boston to turn that thermostat down. 315 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: Thanks for listing for the damn flames. 316 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 2: I'm not even sure I understand some of these, but 317 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: that's okay. Ice has been in Twin Cities for decades. 318 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: Biden aborted sixty five hundred illegals during his tenure. Trump 319 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: is on part with Biden administration. We got into this 320 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: via a text yesterday when Kesler was on. He didn't disagree, 321 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: in part because the truth was there were a lot 322 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 2: of folks deported. Then the issue is more, well, I 323 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 2: heard it from the VP today. 324 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: Door to door. We're going door to door? 325 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: Is that precise? Is that like specific individuals? Or I 326 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: saw some video that I haven't vetted of what appears 327 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 2: to be an uber driver at the airport. 328 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: Have you seen that line I have yep. 329 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: Now again, I'm not gonna double down on it without 330 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: being sure that it was not AI generated and it 331 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: did happen here I think yesterday. If it's accurate, it 332 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: should be concerning to every single god fearing, patriotic American, brown, white, black, whatever. 333 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing it again. I can't help myself. 334 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: I hate how normalized has become to view a death 335 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: in the palm of our hands or is not going 336 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: well for our humanity. 337 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: Keep up the good work. 338 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: Godspeed today Dan, somebody said, well, there is new information 339 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: worth discussing today, and they're absolutely right about this, and 340 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: we are. We would get to it at some point, 341 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: but might as well now. According to the BCA, the 342 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, they're out. Their claim is they're 343 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: shutting down their investigation because the FEDS are icing them out. 344 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: No pun intended at all. 345 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: They're not sharing any information which is contrary to what 346 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: we'd heard could be anticipated via Andy Lueger yesterday because 347 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 2: a lot of what he I don't know. I'm sure 348 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: Luger got ripped because Luger did not pound his fist, 349 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: not because I'm sure he doesn't have opinions or even 350 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: feelings about what took place yesterday and maybe even opinions 351 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: about how far the law enforcement officer the ice officer 352 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: went but wants to learn more, hear more before he 353 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: does it. But he did talk about investigation going forward. 354 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: I would find this, like most people, I think, rather troubling. 355 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: Troubling is the word for it, and not a sign 356 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: of nothing to hide here. We're going to get to 357 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 2: the bottom, to get to the bottom of it, exactly it. Dan, 358 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I know what way you lean. I 359 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: do like that you have no reservations on calling the 360 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: Dems out, Yeah, and I. 361 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: Don't try to do that. I don't have like a checklist. 362 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna rip fifty Republicans today and Fisherson Democrats. 363 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: There's a lot of days when it's probably more like 364 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: ninety ten Republican. But a lot of that has to 365 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: do with the president more than anything else. But you 366 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: kind of go with how you want to go. Couldn't 367 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: placing your vehicle in the way be considered a protest? 368 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 2: Isn't tank man from Tenneman Square also just called the unknown. 369 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: Protester. 370 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 2: He parked his body of the tank as I recalled 371 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: a very jarring image for sure. Hey, Joe is in 372 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 2: reference to Jimmy Hendrix. Well, that's a great song, but 373 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: I don't know that a lot of context. I'm not sure, 374 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: but I guess maybe just trying to lighten things up 375 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: a little bit. Walls wants to go to war with 376 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: the Minnesota National Guard versus the Feds. 377 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: Lol, let's get rid of them all and start over that. 378 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: That certainly is a lowering the temperature kind of a message, 379 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: is it not. Ice wouldn't be here if not for 380 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 2: our If not, if our governor wasn't a fraud. With 381 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: as many people who say that, I'll never listen to 382 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: you again, you'd think that you would have been off 383 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: the air about twenty years ago. 384 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: Other. Yeah, that's what we're saying. 385 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: When did respect for parents, adults, teachers, police officers, and 386 00:23:52,840 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: law enforcement go away? And why do your clean this 387 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: up a little? Testicles ever get sore from all the 388 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: fence sitting Glad you guys are still able to yuck 389 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: it up as the Gestapo or killing unarmed civilians. That's 390 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 2: from six' five to one unnamed sixty five one, Guy, 391 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: DAN i think it's funny when you listen to every 392 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: single interview from a. Politician it is either black or, 393 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: white and neither side's willing to admit that they may 394 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: there may have been faults on their. Side on the 395 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: other side obviously as the result that nobody. Wants BUT 396 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: i think we need to come to the conclusion there 397 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: may be some fault of both people. Here why did 398 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 2: the gunman not just shoot the? 399 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: Tires? Uh what? 400 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: Else let's see if there's a couple more worth mentioning 401 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: here there's The, Hey, JOE i Think i've gone too. 402 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: Fast hold, on let's move to the back to the. 403 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: Top Maybe i'm going the wrong. Direction let's get the. 404 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 2: Freshest i'm waiting for someone to stand up For. America 405 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 2: i'm worried that my Generation GEN x will be remembered 406 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: as a generation that allowed themselves to be pushed around 407 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: and the only action we take is perpetuating our. Angst 408 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 2: are we not doers identifying that we've been wrong as 409 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: and cutting at the Generation this generation needs to take 410 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: the reins Um. 411 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: Dan Hold on scrolled. 412 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: Down you Cite Alpha news like it's a legitimate news 413 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: source that tells me you have no, objectivity when you 414 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: can you remember the last TIME i. Cannot we've even 415 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: Cited Alpha. News we have all if over a period of, 416 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: years we, have but it has tended to be regarding 417 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 2: demonstrably provable factual evidence regarding a. Case so, again you're 418 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: confusing me with a different. Show Or i'll say six 419 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 2: to one to. Two, guy you're doing what you have to. 420 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: Do What i've talked about for many years on this. 421 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: Show you have to demonize me beyond What i've actually, said, 422 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: cited or done BECAUSE i got to be The boogeyman to. 423 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: YOU i got to be the monster to. You so 424 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: when you get in that, mindset facts don't. Matter that's 425 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 2: the irony of. This it's oh, Yeah i'm pretty SURE 426 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 2: i remember a bunch of times he's constantly bringing on 427 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: people From Alpha news and citing them as an objective 428 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: source on a bit of analysis or. Interpretation you're better, 429 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 2: off LIKE i, said hammering me for Stuff i've, done 430 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: because when you hammer me for STUFF i, haven't then 431 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: you've killed your. 432 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: Credibility you've told me you. 433 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 2: Come at this from a certain point of, view and 434 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: you're only going to be interested in facts that confirm 435 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: your vision of. 436 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: It so. 437 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: The reality is you're showing you have no. Objectivity if 438 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: you DECIDE i think it was, Him i'm not, sure 439 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: But i'm just going to go with. IT i don't 440 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 2: have to put my name to. It what that's a 441 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 2: difference many. Wrongs she shouldn't have been a instructing road 442 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: and disobeying. Commands that's, true he was not justified in 443 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: hit the use of. Force ice is also wrong for 444 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 2: restricting a local doctor's access to victims immediately after. Crash 445 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 2: as yesterday's, Guests luger, stated they did not need to be. 446 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: Here, well he's not the only one that have said. 447 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: That i've said that probably two dozen times on this, 448 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: show if not. More that's WHY i THINK i started 449 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: the show. With for, me there's two threads. Here there 450 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: is what how we precisely analyze the sequence of events 451 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: that led to this tragedy as into the murder if 452 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: you view it that, way or the killing if you 453 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: view it another, way of this. Individual but that the 454 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: Larger the other thread, is as goes back, to. 455 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 1: Wasn't this a recipe for? 456 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: Disaster the approach that's being taken, ultimately as volatile as things, 457 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: are as much as the temperature has been raised not, 458 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: lowered wasn't it inevitable that the worst case scenario was 459 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: going to play. Out THE ice agent that that you 460 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: who shot the woman was in a previous incident involving a. 461 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: Car uh that is part of the develop one of 462 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 2: the new DEVELOPMENT i think In. Minneapolis, YEAH i had 463 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: six months, Ago, yeah this past. 464 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: Summer he also writes. 465 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 2: They are letting uh Oh fants mentioned that in his, 466 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: speech and we're just going to let the fact he 467 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 2: has PS tsd. Slides he is now in his investigation 468 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: and shot a person their. Vehicle they're letting, anyone, everyone 469 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: sign up to be AN ice, agent giving them lethal 470 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: authority and human, beings even our own. Citizens he should 471 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: have been nowhere near the front of the, vehicle in 472 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: the position he was, in or near a. Gun, WELL 473 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: i asked that question of the. CHIEF i THINK i 474 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: may have. Asked, well maybe he was the only ONE i. 475 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: Asked but. 476 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: Among law enforcement types WHO i, respect that question is 477 00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: being asked a bunch today and was yesterday about. 478 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: This that. 479 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: What the is that a lack of, training is that 480 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: a desire to force a, confrontation invite a, confrontation to 481 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: give yourself an excuse to then. Murder these are all 482 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: fair questions that should be put into the, mix BECAUSE 483 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: i Don't i'm not familiar with any law enforcement Officer 484 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: i've ever talked to who, said, well when you have a, 485 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: chance put yourself in a when you're a, pedestrian you're, 486 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: walking not in a car with one of those big 487 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: you know, what that big grill in the front that 488 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: basically is supposed to intimidate anybody if they want to 489 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: try to ram them to put yourself in front of a, 490 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: vehicle that that you, are that other people in your 491 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: group are attempting to. 492 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: Stop. Correct SO i don't. Know CAN i respond to 493 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:49,959 Speaker 1: one of those? 494 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: Things, yeah, absolutely the fence sitting, one, yes because that one. 495 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: Does those bother me because when stories like these, happen 496 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 3: and it happened again, yesterday immediately everybody sprints to their, side, 497 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 3: Right they just sprint and. 498 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: They use they say they're come back to. You even 499 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: on that basis will be, WELL i don't need to see. 500 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: Anymore look at the. Video it's as clear as, day, 501 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: right which it often, is and go. 502 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: Ahead and that's the point is there's still so much 503 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: like that sounds good to, say take a. Stand what 504 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: more do you need to? See we don't need what 505 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: we don't know what more we need to. See YET 506 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: i think there's still a lot more than we need to, 507 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: see not just in this, case but in every time 508 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: that something like this. Happens and it's not as easy 509 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 3: when part of your job is to comment on, it 510 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: have opinions on, it think about. It first of, all 511 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 3: anything you, say whatever stand you, take AS i think 512 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 3: the text line has just proven you're going to piss 513 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: like fifty percent of the people off, immediately even for 514 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: a thoughtful, opinion even when you've taken you've taken your, 515 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: time you've read everything you've wanted to, read you've talked to. 516 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: It by the, way that ultimately over a period of sometimes, 517 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: days sometimes, weeks ends in what not a fence sitting, 518 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 3: position but saying now we have enough for me to 519 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: say this should not. 520 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: Stand this is. 521 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: Inexcusable this officer should be prosecuted the fullestixs of the, law, 522 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: or as in A landrigan, case a belief that there's 523 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: not enough of a case. 524 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: Here this is not a good. Case you. Know that's 525 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: that fence. 526 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: Sitting it's the definition of fence sitting for this guy 527 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: is if you don't come to his conclusion as soon 528 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: as you he. 529 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: Wants you to, that you're a fence. 530 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: Sitter, no, yeah follow the record of whatever story we 531 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: talk about over a period of time or a period of, days, weeks, 532 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: years whatever the case may. 533 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 3: Be BECAUSE i also think this is more for you than, 534 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 3: me because it's your show and your opinions matter to. 535 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 3: People the most reckless thing you can do is just 536 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 3: throw out an opinion on something before you've actually put 537 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 3: in enough thought and work into. It because as we, 538 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: SEE i, mean that's the headline world that we live in, now. 539 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: Right you see a, headline you go with, it and 540 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 3: then you go with, it and then the next person 541 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: goes with, it and you're passing it, along and then 542 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 3: that might prove to be. False and we've we've talked 543 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 3: about a million. Times the retraction on news that doesn't 544 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 3: isn't correct is very rarely as loud as the original. 545 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: News and SO i next, QUESTION i think it's reckless 546 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: to come on yesterday and have every single answer well 547 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: and every single opinion that we should BE i think 548 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 3: that's the most reckless thing that you can. 549 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: Do is it the most reckless? 550 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 2: Thing it's the opposite of ballsy it's the easiest thing to. 551 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 2: Do there's Nothing you can be a spineless jellyfish and 552 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: do that on any of these. 553 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: Issues that's not hard to. 554 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 2: Do but in that, world in that person's, world because 555 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 2: he or she has already decided what's a sign of 556 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: a lack of you, know testicular. 557 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: Fortitude And i'm sure. 558 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: There's people out there that you could make that accusation 559 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 2: of and that's, fine but it's not hard to. 560 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: Do well he wants to do at. 561 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: All that's the easiest thing to, do because that's the 562 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: red meat he. Wants so isn't that the easiest? Thing 563 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: give go, ahead throw the meat out there, here chop 564 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 2: away at. It as opposed to, say there's stuff all 565 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: over this, story including the actions the officer that troubled me. 566 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: Greatly there's not any question about. 567 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: That BUT i, want you, know my preferences to get 568 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: to a better, place WHICH i don't think, anybody including That, 569 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: texter if he was listening, yesterday would say that my 570 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: position on generally, speaking The trump administration's approach ice approach in, 571 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 2: general almost made. 572 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: This an inevitability. 573 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: That would have been, avoided no matter how you feel 574 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: about the particulars of this, case that's then sitting give 575 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: me a, break all, right let's, break we'll get caught. 576 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: Up guest line up today as of now Is Michael 577 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: hurley at four fifteen and we'll talk international stuff with 578 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 2: him And Russo radio To Talk hockey that is at 579 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: five oh. 580 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: Two stay, Too. 581 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 4: Borcers this Year Eric musselm has gotten back to. Me damn. 582 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: It nothing. 583 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: Yet, well it's probably The games tomorrow, night, right so 584 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 2: he's probably a practicing right. Now maybe THEY i do 585 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 2: know they had practiced at The barn earlier. 586 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: Today today we's got nothing else to. 587 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 3: Do he's pretty. Fit he's probably getting a workout in, 588 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 3: him that's. True maybe he's at the Old Arena club. Time, 589 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 3: yah you're probably right about. That his dad used to 590 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 3: work out at The Arena club, lifetime like when it 591 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 3: was back when it was NOT i saw him. 592 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: There, yeah WELL i don't know IF i. Remember, YEAH 593 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: i would have Seen eric. TOO i definite we Saw. Bill, 594 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: yeah it was almost all the. Time my dad AND 595 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 2: i used to get shots up, there saw brands because 596 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: it was all it was all in the same spot, 597 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: basically that was their practice. 598 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: Facility that's. True people don't know to. 599 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: Watch, yes practice before they got a lot more. Secretive 600 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: if you're in the if you're on the, oval the 601 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: walking track, running you, know on over the top of 602 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 2: it and the second, floor you could you can see 603 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: a whole. 604 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 3: PRACTICE i spent a lot of time trying to get 605 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 3: Poor richards's attention from that walking. 606 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: Track it was, awesome that's the. Best it was the. 607 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 3: Best my dad worked. Downtown we'd walk, over get some shots. 608 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 3: Up maybe the wolves will be. 609 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: There sources are telling me there's a good reason to believe, that, 610 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 2: uh there will be a state level investigation in one 611 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: form or. Another that will be interesting to watch going, 612 00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: forward because how challenging is that depending on what you, 613 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 2: know how much material you, have how much access you 614 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 2: have to the material necessary to do the job? Fairly 615 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 2: the bigger issue apparently that is. Rankling one could say 616 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: prosecutors around the country is AND i miss this if 617 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 2: The vice president said this during the presser AND i missed, 618 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: it forgive. Me but apparently he's saying that there'll be 619 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 2: No ACTUALLY i did hear this. Part they're appointing a 620 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 2: special prosecutor for fraud. 621 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: Because now it is red. Meat we're going to get 622 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 1: in on all of. It but that. 623 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: Would you'd like to think is in a traditional. FASHION 624 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 2: i know it's silly to think about anything traditional right, 625 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 2: now but in a legal, fashion then you'd want that 626 00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: prosecutor to report to the attorney. General but apparently in this, 627 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 2: case this special prosecutor report directly to guess who the 628 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 2: vice president of the president of The United. States what 629 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 2: could possibly go wrong? There totally, Normal it doesn't make any. 630 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 2: Sense and there's ALSO i think a belief that what 631 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 2: the assumption is and we don't know, this but there's 632 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 2: some speculation that the victim's family might file a wrongful death, 633 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 2: case which would ALSO i, think in a legal, sense 634 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 2: obligate certain doors to be. 635 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: Opened. 636 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 2: Correct so there's again we are in such early stages 637 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 2: through all of. This it doesn't sound as if we 638 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 2: had a lot of any, violence right of any note last. 639 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 2: NIGHT i know there have been some there's been a 640 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: lot of, yelling there's been some. Confrontations there's been some 641 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 2: use of pepper, SPRAY i, believe or whatever they call 642 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 2: the chemical irritants these, Days but have You i've not 643 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 2: read about much of any, outmating thank, god about injuries 644 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 2: or that sort of. 645 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: Thing so we'll. 646 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 3: See there's been some demonstrations The federal. Building that's fine 647 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 3: and things like, that but nothing nothing too. 648 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: Crazy that's THAT'S i think all that would be very 649 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: good news toy department. Mentioning AND i don't know our 650 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 2: chances to Get eric might, be in fairness to, him 651 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 2: not good BECAUSE i didn't reach out to himntil just 652 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: about an hour before the. 653 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: Show but. 654 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: As royce, writes you know what's what is fascinating about tomorrow, 655 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 2: night and, again this is a generational issue a little 656 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 2: bit in that youngsters the Name Bill musselman for a 657 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 2: lot in our audience isn't going to. Resonate and There's 658 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 2: i'm not attacking. That there's nothing wrong with that because 659 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 2: it goes back. Aways BUT i GUESS i Didn't it makes, 660 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: sense BUT i GUESS i didn't realize that this will 661 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 2: be the very first time ever Since bill was the 662 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: head coach of The gophers that his son will, be you, 663 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 2: know walking up the ladder or up the steps to 664 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 2: the floor To Williams arena to be the head. 665 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: Coach of a college basketball. 666 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 2: Team and you, Know i've talked To eric a lot 667 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 2: about the relationship with his father over. 668 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: The, years and he. 669 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 2: Doesn't he was very close to his, dad but he 670 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 2: also doesn't always like TO i think cut open a 671 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 2: vein so much on, it BUT i got to think 672 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 2: it is going to be emotional for him today OR 673 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: i should Say, friday, RIGHT i, MEAN i have to, 674 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 2: believe because you, KNOW i think he. WAS i Think 675 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: eric was about you, know for those who don't, remember 676 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 2: the kids who don't, Remember Bill musselman came aboard what was, 677 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 2: it seventy, one seventy, TWO i think early. Seventies in, 678 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 2: fact he And, Knight he And Bob knight came on 679 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 2: the scene about the same. Time night from A night 680 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 2: To indiana and Obviously Bill musselman To minnesota and one 681 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: of the uh fascinating things about The muscleman, era there 682 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 2: was some, controversy but before that it ended, Poorly it 683 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 2: ended very. Poorly but before that it was we're not 684 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 2: just he's. 685 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: A fundamentals, guy, right but. 686 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 2: He also was a showman and he always, believed, well 687 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 2: we're here to put on a. Show and a lot 688 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 2: of times the fundamentals guys are the guys who don't you, 689 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 2: know they almost mocked that whole. Concept he never, did 690 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 2: so they would do in, pregame A harlem globetrotter style 691 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 2: pregame when they come out on the court in a 692 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 2: way that convinced a lot of fans THAT i got 693 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 2: to get there. Early it became a, thing And eric 694 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 2: was on the sidelines helping out in some of. 695 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 1: THAT i think he was like. 696 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 2: Seven or eight years old at that, point and so 697 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: the idea that this many years so how old is 698 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 2: double check how Old Eric. MUSSELMAN i think he's sixty four, 699 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 2: one you, know so what fifty five years later or, 700 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 2: more he's back in that same, gym same, floor in 701 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 2: a very very different, position and you, know fifty one years. 702 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: Old there were times WHERE. 703 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 2: I, wondered, well might he end up being A wolves 704 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: head coach because he was an assistant obviously early for his, 705 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 2: dad or might he be A gofer's head, coach WHICH 706 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 2: i pushed several. Times but the fact that now it 707 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 2: really hasn't happened until, NOW i got to believe there'll 708 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 2: be some emotions swirling about his. 709 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: Head don't you Think. 710 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 3: I'd be stunned if they. Weren't i'd be stunned if they, weren't, 711 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 3: because like you, said because of his relationship and the 712 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 3: fact that his dad's been gone a long. 713 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: TIME i, Mean i'm. 714 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 3: Sure he'll be thinking about his dad a lot just being. 715 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 3: There and when Did bill. Die it was a while, 716 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 3: ago run in a while, now yes, So And i'm 717 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 3: sure it is for the fans that have straddled the. 718 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 3: Eras and there's still a lot of them there too 719 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 3: At Williams arena if you go that have been here 720 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 3: for both of those you know that had tickets in the, 721 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 3: seventies there's still a lot of those people. 722 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: The, job you. 723 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 2: Know one of the interesting things about the JOB i, 724 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 2: had especially WHEN i was still, writing is and how 725 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 2: many times this story has repeated itself with, Me And 726 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 2: i'm sure it happens with other commists in other towns as, 727 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 2: well where at the TIME i was writing about them 728 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 2: or they were actively involved as a player or a. 729 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 2: COACH i could be pretty critical and the tension could 730 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 2: be pretty, palpable frankly between, us and that was that's 731 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 2: played out a few, times including obviously with a regular, 732 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 2: Guest Glenn. Mason but it did With, bill and yet 733 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 2: years after he left here he became probably one OF 734 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: i would say there were two guys who MIGHT i 735 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 2: might end up talking to for an hour and a 736 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 2: half to two hours about eleven o'clock at. Night it's 737 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,879 Speaker 2: the only thing that would keep me up because usually 738 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 2: my teeth in the glass too. Early and one of 739 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 2: them Was Flip saunders and the other Was Bill, musselman 740 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 2: and we would just talk. Basketball at some point you 741 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 2: get past all, that maybe understand each other a little bit. 742 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 2: Better and he was a basketball savant, man and he 743 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 2: was a sponge and his kid has a lot of 744 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 2: that in. Him i've always, Said i've always Told, ERIC 745 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 2: i think he's a saner version of his. 746 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: Dad and just even. 747 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 2: Though he's he every once in a while you can 748 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 2: see Some bill and oh yeah he's got some but 749 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 2: because he definitely, does but he's got a little better 750 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 2: bedside manner that he's developed a little, bit or maybe 751 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 2: he had from the beginning, publicly at least. Publicly that's 752 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 2: a very good way to put. It, yeah and he's 753 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 2: had a heck of a coaching run in a number 754 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 2: of places and, now as we said AT, usc but 755 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 2: it's funny how that repeats itself a few times where 756 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 2: somebody that you, know and again the roles are. Different Then, 757 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 2: okay my job is to comment on whatever you're doing. 758 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 2: Well once the coach is no longer, Here Once Bill 759 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 2: musselman wasn't coaching, here there was really nothing for me 760 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 2: to opine on regarding, him and so made it easier 761 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 2: to get to another. Place and what and where that 762 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 2: other place you get to is a more human place, 763 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 2: actually where you're just talking to that person as another 764 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: person as opposed to someone that you're, covering and you 765 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 2: feel like there's a little bit of natural. 766 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: Tension SO i don't, know we'll find. Out, also. 767 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 2: What's going to be the tipping? POINT i, mean is 768 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 2: it win a bunch more like five More big ten? 769 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 1: Games is? 770 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 2: It how what's the tipping point to get into a 771 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 2: place where the crowds will will demonstrably improve because they're 772 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,720 Speaker 2: still not there At Williams. 773 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: ARENA i don't think right. 774 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Earlier, YEAH i think tomorrow night will be good 775 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 3: because it's A fridriday, night, yeah which never come off 776 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 3: another nice upset. Victory, Yes And wisconsin will be a 777 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 3: good crowd because It's wisconsin and there's a lot Of 778 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 3: wisconsin people that live. Here the fan has, learned so 779 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,959 Speaker 3: that will be a good. Crowd, Yes, yeah probably a couple. 780 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 3: More BUT i do Think nico's approach to the whole 781 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 3: thing has been appealing to. PEOPLE i agree he's been 782 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 3: very frontal ABOUT i believe it matters. HERE i believe 783 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 3: that it's a sleeper. CELL i refuse to believe that 784 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 3: there's nobody here that cares about college. Basketball and it's 785 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 3: our job to make sure that we bring that sleeper 786 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 3: cell to the. Barn, yeah and obviously, games as he said, 787 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 3: it games Like Tuesday night where you Beat iowa like, 788 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 3: that that matters to, people and that gets people's attention 789 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 3: a little, bit and if you can string a few more, 790 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 3: together then you really got. 791 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 2: Something i've said this from the, beginning AND i don't 792 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 2: think this is going on any kind of a. Limb 793 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 2: the man he knows how to coach, Basketball there's no 794 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 2: question about that part of. It the issue is going 795 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 2: to be are can you get a high enough level 796 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 2: of talent consistently here to. 797 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: Work your. 798 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 2: Magic that's always going to BE i think it's always 799 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 2: going to be more that with him here than, well 800 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 2: can he does he know what he's? Doing? Yeah he 801 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 2: knows what he's, doing and it often you prove that 802 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 2: actually at tougher, place even tougher places In. Minnesota to. 803 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 2: Win it's just a matter of can you get the, 804 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 2: players and can in this case you keep the, players, 805 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 2: which of, course we're in a whole new era about. 806 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 2: That let's make this the top of the hour. Pause 807 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 2: don't forget we Got Michael hurley about four fifteen to 808 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 2: talk international. Relations even though that feels like it's very 809 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 2: much in the back, burner it's still very. Real Russo 810 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 2: radio is scheduled for five oh two back in just 811 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 2: a miny