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Speaker 1: Speaking money, former Steeler Russell Wilson has enough cash that

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Speaker 1: by how deep the left field fence is at PNC Park.

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Speaker 1: When Bob Nutting heard that and thought that was a

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Speaker 2: Works for me, It's worth the investment.

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Speaker 1: by Tommy Radio. Tom I can't get away from the

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Speaker 1: biggest story of the day, Russell Wilson being in the

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Speaker 3: So Russ's story is, oh, I had no idea who

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Speaker 1: How did I know my golf stream guy was Epstein's

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Speaker 3: Let's believe that, right. It's just so Russell Wilson that

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Speaker 3: But y'all rushed right to Twitter to tell Satan not today,

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Speaker 3: Well what does Satan have to do with this?

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Speaker 3: But not today, Satan, not on Russell Wilson's watch, And

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Speaker 3: That makes me think that Russell Wilson kind of knew

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Speaker 1: Well, the funniest part about that whole thing was how

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Speaker 1: music back then, right, But Russell was huge by that,

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Speaker 2: It was getting another big contract as we could see.

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Speaker 3: Wanted to be public, right, Like he didn't want it

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Speaker 2: We know you have a lot of money. I'm going

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Speaker 3: Do you think the plane is now cheap enough that

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Speaker 2: Wait that plane. I'll tell you, Oh that plane. I

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Speaker 3: What's that in the corner? So he was taking pictures

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just a fact.

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Speaker 1: It says it right here. Russell is asking for a

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Speaker 1: So what do we make tom of the weekends goings

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Speaker 3: First, well, no one on the Epstein list. Let's put

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Speaker 1: For so far, is the Epstein list what Mark is

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Speaker 2: Pat official not.

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Speaker 3: On the Epstein list, But is the new Stealers defensive

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Speaker 2: Friday evening ish kind of. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I wanted that I was pounding the table for someone

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Speaker 2: But it's just another You don't.

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Speaker 1: Hear about who those guys are until they become those guys, right, well, no,

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Speaker 2: Though I wouldn't have hated some Jim Schwartz in my life,

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Speaker 2: But they where does it sit with him right now?

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Speaker 3: By the way, with Schwartz, Yeah, I think he's like

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Speaker 2: Was right, But he's under contrad They don't have to

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Speaker 3: They don't, but you're gonna force him to come and coach.

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Speaker 3: You know what they're getting in Pittsburgh, tough defensive football

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Speaker 2: It's a given that's top five.

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Speaker 1: How he says he used to watch all the Pittsburgh games.

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Speaker 1: Did he if he thinks that defense is good enough

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Speaker 3: I've carried lesser defenses than this before. You know what

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Speaker 1: The root of all of this sort of mollifying of

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Speaker 1: Because we weren't talking about Russ and his Gulf Stream

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll talk Penguins.

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Speaker 1: They're an action tonight against Dota, with a last home

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Speaker 2: To It's the Mark Maddon Free Gay Show.

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Speaker 1: On extending covers of The Mark Madden Show, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Shndorovich, Shindorovich and Fishman. Here the two o'clock

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Speaker 1: than three goals one time since Christmas in a game,

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00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 1: and then it just exploded on them in the third

439
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,679
Speaker 1: period against the Rangers. They'd been very sound defensively and

440
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 1: that wasn't all goaltending either, No, it wasn't.

441
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 3: Do you think Also there was a little bit of

442
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 3: pushback from the Rangers, just a feeling of professional pride

443
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 3: with them when it was five to one.

444
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,199
Speaker 2: Why start showing it now?

445
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

446
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to grasp out some straws hair here,

447
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, because they do look like

448
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 3: a dead team walking. But like good lord, they are

449
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 3: just sinking like a rock down the standings. They've lost

450
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker 3: three straight now, they're two and eight in their last ten.

451
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 3: They're they're within striking distance to starting to talk about

452
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 3: getting that number one overall spot. I mean, Vancouver's a

453
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 3: pretty good firm hold on it now, but they're only

454
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 3: a point back to Saint Louis as far as the

455
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,959
Speaker 3: second worst team in the entire NHL a lot. If

456
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 3: mchanno winds up in New York, that'd be.

457
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 2: Exactly what the league wants.

458
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 3: But I'm just trying to find a reason why the

459
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 3: Rangers showed just this weird spark of life. But I

460
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 3: think you're right it was more on the Penguins defensively

461
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 3: that it was some lapses that hadn't been happening for

462
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:03,719
Speaker 3: a while. Did I tell you I went to go

463
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 3: see him in Penn State a couple of weeks ago.

464
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 3: I know, Yeah, he.

465
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 2: Scored in the outdoor game this weekend, right, I.

466
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: Don't know about that. But so when I saw him,

467
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,640
Speaker 1: he knows when you're open.

468
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 3: Before you do.

469
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 2: The instinct is out of control, very heads.

470
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 1: He definitely has hockey vision all over the place, Like

471
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, he's got high eyes in the back of

472
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 1: his head and the side of his head. He knows

473
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 1: where everybody is at all times before they are going

474
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 1: to get there. There are times, though, when I was

475
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: watching him in person, where I was like, he needs

476
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 1: to hold on the puck a little longer and just

477
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 1: try to make a play himself.

478
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 3: Just take it to the whole sun, you know, like

479
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 3: sometimes go to the hoop. Playmakers have trouble with that sometimes,

480
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 3: don't you think. Well, Then the next night he went

481
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 3: out and had a hat trick, So I missed it.

482
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 3: I was there already got two assists de Marciico, the

483
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,959
Speaker 3: kid from Wexford out of hat trick. When I was

484
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 3: at the game against Notre Dame. The next night, he

485
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 3: goes out and has a hat trick himself. I think

486
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 3: playmakers just have a tendency to want to set the table,

487
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 3: sometimes more for others than they do for themselves when

488
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 3: they need to just take it to the hole, as

489
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 3: you put it.

490
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 2: Sometimes.

491
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 3: I think Sid has that moments sometimes. In fact, recently

492
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 3: I feel like Sid has had some of those moments

493
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 3: where he's been maybe a little too passive. Although he

494
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 3: was putting pucks towards the net against the Rangers, just

495
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 3: was missing the net on Saturday. So it's very encouraging

496
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 3: to see the Penguins playing this well and collecting all

497
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: these wins with Sid not doing much.

498
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: I heard the outdoor games took forever to play at

499
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 1: State College and there are bad spots in the ice

500
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: all over the place. Almost got too cold to maintain

501
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: the ice.

502
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: I saw that they were talking about that on the

503
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 3: Stadium series last night, where they were saying it was

504
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 3: almost perfect in Tampa Bay, where it was like at

505
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 3: forty four forty three degrees without any sun out, Like

506
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 3: that's almost what you exactly want for the ice, and

507
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 3: too cold is a thing.

508
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I guess the figure doesn't the ice surface

509
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 1: then is an expander?

510
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 2: Does it contract? This is where it's not science.

511
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: Well, something goes wrong with the ice and then like

512
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: there are bad patches all over the ice, and you

513
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 1: know they had to move. I guess there was a

514
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: club game between like Oklahoma State and Penn State they

515
00:22:59,000 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: had they.

516
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: Played one period and moved it into.

517
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: Pegoula because the ice was so bad and they didn't

518
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: want to ruin it further for the women's game which

519
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: was coming up and eventually the men's game on Saturday.

520
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 3: I hope that that opens I think it looked great

521
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 3: even though they had all those delays at Beaver Stadium.

522
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: I hope it opens up to the door for the

523
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 3: Penguin's Flyers finally playing there. It just seems like it

524
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 3: was so obvious to just do it in the middle

525
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 3: of the state, although all the stadiums here.

526
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: What's your take on the stadium series.

527
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna get to that next because of what

528
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: happened last night. Did you watch how much of that game?

529
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: Did you watch?

530
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 2: Now?

531
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: Boss game or the coseplay Pirates of the Carabing Entrance. Oh,

532
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 3: when they came in as Patriots, the Bruins.

533
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 2: Patriots, they dressed up as Buccaneers.

534
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: But then did you see like the intros for the players,

535
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 3: like they had like actors out there as pirates, like

536
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 3: reading scrolls and being like.

537
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: A lightning strike. Oh god, they didn't do that. Oh

538
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: of course they did.

539
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 3: Oh so puck drop didn't happen n ttil like forty

540
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 3: minutes after the fact that it was supposed to at

541
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 3: six thirty, and they had the skit for the skit

542
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: that they were doing for the player intros. Yeah, it

543
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: just seems like it's way too overplayed. They oversaturated it

544
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 3: in my opinion.

545
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: Now, did they do the.

546
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: Patriots thing the Bruins because they're paying homage to the

547
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: Patriots playing in the Super Bowl or is this like

548
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: we're colonial men in the Caribbean, like.

549
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: Because that's kind of what the fight was, right, it

550
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 3: was the pirates versus the colonials, the British. I don't

551
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: know why they were acting the way that they were

552
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: because it's a feat of weather, a bolt of lightning

553
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 3: versus a bear. So I don't know why they were

554
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: dressed up like colonial patriots and then Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

555
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: I was just I was very concerned that we're gonna

556
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: have to do a wellness check in Colby Armstrong because.

557
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: I really felt sad. I saw it happen live, and.

558
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: I was just Obviously he's in denial though, right, I

559
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: mean like he's he's planting his flag that his goal

560
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: is the only goal that matters, because it was the

561
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: Winter Classic, not just a stadium series knockoff outdoor game.

562
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: That his was the fastest goal still in Winter Classic history,

563
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: so that's the one that really counts.

564
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: I think he's got an out there.

565
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 3: Too, like I think that's a decent out And it

566
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: goes back to my point of them oversaturating this. There's

567
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 3: too many outdoor games. There should just be one Winter

568
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 3: Classic every year around New Year's Day or on New

569
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 3: Year's Day and make it, you know, a spectacle, and

570
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 3: make it rare, and so there's like five of them

571
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: every year.

572
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: That goalie fight doesn't happen if it's inside doors like that. Obviously,

573
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: Vassilevsky was revved up and looking for a reason, and

574
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: Swaming gave it to him.

575
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: I agree.

576
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 3: I thought it was funny that he skated all the

577
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 3: way out with that stick.

578
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: Attached to his leg, and Vasilevsky's like, hey, take care

579
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: of that, normal.

580
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,239
Speaker 3: Normal game in TD Garden or down in Tampa Bay

581
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 3: in their arena. That's not even skating. Towards the midline,

582
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: he was all revved up. Big show gotta put on,

583
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: you gotta make everybody go. You know, McDonald go into

584
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 3: boxing mode. Normal game, he's probably taking the mask off,

585
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: taking a squirre of water or something like that, and

586
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 3: just like doing the old aimless skate around and sweep

587
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 3: up your crease.

588
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: Now that said swaming did exacerbate things that was on

589
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 1: him because he went after Hagel and just jumped right

590
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: on top of him.

591
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: Maybe because he was trying to embrace a little bit

592
00:25:59,240 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: of the show.

593
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if Swiman would have done that in

594
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 3: a normal game setting a goalie jumping on.

595
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 2: Somebody like that.

596
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: Denzil ended up with the only shootout points. You noticed

597
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: that too from the box score. Yeah, and he had

598
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: two assists along the way.

599
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: Kutroff was an animal.

600
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: They're a wagon and speaking of comebacks, is they were

601
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 3: down big? Yes, they're a wagon again. Aren't they Tampa.

602
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 3: Kutroff's sneakly maybe the best player in the league this year,

603
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 3: Like very quietly, McDavid's still amazing. Obviously n Nate Dogg's

604
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: crazy in Colorado, but like what Kutrov's doing in Tampa

605
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 3: is unbelievable.

606
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: Bart's right though about and he's made this point on

607
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: a number of times. If we are starting to legitimately

608
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 1: talk about the Penguins being a playoff contender, they've got

609
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: to stay out of the wild card and they got

610
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: to stay within the division, which, like, you don't want

611
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 1: to play Carolina or Tampa. But at the same time,

612
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: if you're a Penguins fan, you don't want to see

613
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: New York as the playoff team that you're going against

614
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: just because of the history. Now that means nothing, you know,

615
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: it's the old Doc emerickism of its history, not prophecy,

616
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, like that that thing.

617
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: But it's true.

618
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't necessarily have any connection to the past,

619
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: except that it does. You Just the staying out of

620
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: the wild card thing is the biggest problem there. I mean,

621
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: it looks like you've got a very good gap there too.

622
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: I would just love to see somebody. I don't care

623
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: if they're three versus two. I just don't want to

624
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: see them playing the Islanders in the two three. If

625
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: somebody else could creep their way up there, that'd be nice. Columbus, Fine,

626
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: Columbus is the.

627
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 3: One that you're kind of looking at right They got

628
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 3: a game in hand on the Islanders and they're four

629
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: points back on the Islanders right now, so it's definitely doable.

630
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 2: They're on fire, Columbuses. They've won five straight.

631
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: The way you feel about Penguin's Islanders in a playoff series,

632
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: dare I say you feel the opposite about Penguins and

633
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 3: Blue Jackets.

634
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 2: That's that's bug and windshield territory right there.

635
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: Well, Chinikov two of all the guys that are surprises

636
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: and like where did this come from?

637
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: And how did Dubis put it together?

638
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: I know that Muse was sort of dismissive when I

639
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: asked him about, Hey, are you surprised about this guy

640
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: or this guy or this guy? When I asked him

641
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: the question after the Blackhawks game, He's like, I'm not surprised. Well,

642
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: of course he's got to say that, because if he

643
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: says he's surprised that it sounds like he never really

644
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: believed these guys to begin with, but nobody was expecting

645
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: career years out of door Braso Shay, probably Man.

646
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: Yes, and Chinakov.

647
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: But like the China Coough thing is okay, they're finding

648
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: something that Columbus didn't. Like, they're unpacking a tool box

649
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: here that that will reap rewards, Like this is as

650
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: good as it's good to get for Connor Duer, This

651
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: is as good as it's gonna get for Ryan sha.

652
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

653
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: Well maybe not Brazel, but like you know, he's sort

654
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: of in that territory of a good young junior players

655
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: finding it late.

656
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 3: You don't feel the same way about brasser Is moving

657
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 3: forward that you do Chinakoff in this short se size though,

658
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 3: like there's a ceiling there.

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Speaker 2: That's why he's the most important one. I'm saying top.

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Speaker 3: Six, maybe even the first line at some point down

661
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Speaker 3: the road. But but you get all six points of

662
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Speaker 3: this home stand.

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Speaker 2: And then have to I think, I mean, Otta was

664
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Speaker 2: not that good. I know they're playing pretty well right now,

665
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: they've won three straight, but they're not that good.

666
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Speaker 1: And then these next two games, you know you're playing

667
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Speaker 1: against playoff teams and it's on the road, So I

668
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Speaker 1: mean that split that and then going to the Olympic break,

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Speaker 1: get a little tang back, don't cool off.

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Speaker 3: That's my big worry is like what happens out of

671
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Speaker 3: the break? Do they come out treading water on fire again?

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Speaker 3: Or is there a cool off period where it takes

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Speaker 3: them a little bit of time to get going. They

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Speaker 3: have such a nice Connor door might cool off, yes,

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Speaker 3: Ryan Shay might cool off. You just have such a

676
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: nice gap already built in with the metro. They're like

677
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Speaker 3: I was talking about Columbus catching New York. Columbus is

678
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Speaker 3: in fourth place right now. Pengins are up six points

679
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Speaker 3: on them, and they have a game in hand on Columbus. Like,

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Speaker 3: it's just a very comfortable gap all of a sudden

681
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Speaker 3: to stay into the top three when.

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Speaker 1: We come back. Are we underestimating the offseason that the

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Speaker 1: Pirates had. At least one expert in the business thinks

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Speaker 1: we are. We'll discuss when we return on one O

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Speaker 1: five nine the X.

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Speaker 4: Tonight's the Pens face the Senators. Game time is seven.

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Speaker 4: Our coverage starts at six here every game, and the

688
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Speaker 4: best coverage right here on your home of the Pens

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Speaker 4: one five nine the X. Hey it's the mark manon

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Speaker 4: Free Game Show, Bun Tom.

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Speaker 1: We probably should mention that we've got a Signetti. It

692
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Speaker 1: looks like for the Steelers. According to Jerry Doulock from

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Speaker 1: The Post Gazette, the Steelers are adding former pitt offensive

694
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Speaker 1: coordinator Frank Signetti to head coach Mike McCarthy's offensive staff.

695
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: Signetti is currently the offensive coordinator for iup very familiar

696
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Speaker 1: with this. Signetti not as good as the other one.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say that, get out in front of that.

698
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Speaker 1: As two stints as Pitt's offensive coordinator. This Frank Signetti

699
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Speaker 1: not as good as the curt What does this do

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Speaker 1: for your level of optimism? We're now pessimism.

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope he's just like a QB assistant or

702
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Speaker 2: like a special advice or something.

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Speaker 3: They're they're coming through on one thing. They're making the

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Speaker 3: staff bigger.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they got to include as many guys with Packers,

706
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Speaker 1: Cowboys and Pittsburgh ties.

707
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Speaker 2: Like if they're if this.

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Speaker 3: Is not the offensive coordinator higher which I really hope

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Speaker 3: it's not, then he's not the quarterback coach because that's

710
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Speaker 3: Tom Arth. So he'd have to be some sort of

711
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Speaker 3: like passing game or like, you know, to your point,

712
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 3: a position that they didn't previously have already on the staff.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what else it would be. I really

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Speaker 3: hope it's not offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: And one of the books on McCarthy is that he

716
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: likes to delegate give duties to his coaching staff. So

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Speaker 1: you need a bigger coaching staff if you're gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: He seems like more of a phishing guy than a

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Speaker 1: golfing guy. To me, don't you think, like just sit

720
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Speaker 1: out in that boat.

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Speaker 3: Yes, be real lazy not to say that golf is,

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Speaker 3: you know, the greatest athletic feet.

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Speaker 2: You can't be lazy to play golf. But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just don't see him out there swinging. I wonder.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna show up every single Pro

726
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Speaker 1: day like Tomlin did.

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Speaker 2: That's where you're going, you know he will not.

728
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Speaker 1: Let's get to this off season grade list that Jim

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Speaker 1: Bowden put.

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Speaker 3: Out there from the athletic He's a former GM and

731
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: has been very positive about what the Pirates have done

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Speaker 3: throughout the course of this offseason. But I didn't think

733
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Speaker 3: it was to this degree.

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Speaker 1: He's got them as an a minus for the off season,

735
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Speaker 1: and he says, here the Pirates finally did it. They

736
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: were aggressive with their efforts to improve their offense, highlighted

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Speaker 1: by the trade for second baseman Brandon Lowe. Talks about O'Hearn,

738
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Speaker 1: talks about getting the password, talks about Griffin perhaps coming

739
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: up sometime before after the All Star break, and he

740
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: goes on to talk about why they've earned this A

741
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Speaker 1: minus grade, and then he gives a season prediction and

742
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: he says fourth place. So an A minus off season

743
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: gets you fourth place. I guess we're grading on a curve.

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Speaker 3: And I the opening of that blurb from Bowden right

745
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: there confirmed what I thought. It's an A for effort.

746
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Speaker 3: That's all that was. I'm giving them an A for effort.

747
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 3: And oh that was cute. You actually tried this time

748
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: to get through the school reading. I'll give you an

749
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: A on this one because it was worth worth. It

750
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: was worth that at least the effort that you put in.

751
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: They have fallen, in my estimation, one legitimate bat short.

752
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: He talks about Connor Griffin, he talks about the password.

753
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: I think he put this together before Suarez went to

754
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Speaker 3: the Reds.

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00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they missed the boat on him.

756
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Speaker 3: But the password part in the Connor Griffin part, Like,

757
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: I get that those are things that could pan out

758
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: for the Pirates, but those aren't like needle moving things.

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00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Connor Griffin's number one prospect in baseball, don't

760
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: get me wrong, but like you're accelerating his process through

761
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: the minors here. If he's gonna start at shortstop on

762
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Speaker 3: opening day, maybe he's ready to I hope he is.

763
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Speaker 2: But all this should know. If they really want Suarez,

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Speaker 2: you've got to pay.

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Speaker 1: You got to give him an extra year, or you

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Speaker 1: got to give him a lot more than going back

767
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Speaker 1: to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Well wasn't that part of the reporting that they were

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Speaker 3: willing to go higher? I heard I heard a little

770
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Speaker 3: of that. Yeah, oh we were ready to pay more

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Speaker 3: than the fifteen million that Cincinnati wanted to play as usual.

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Speaker 1: But you know, always the ballpark. He wants to play

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Speaker 1: in a bandbox in Cincinnati. Okay, another reason you have

774
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Speaker 1: to overpay them. I mean, like, but what do we say,

775
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: so they're never going to get a right handed hitter.

776
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Speaker 1: They're never gonna invest in a power right handed That's

777
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Speaker 1: apparently why they weren't interested in Alonzo too, right.

778
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Speaker 2: You could vary.

779
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: You're just never gonna have a right handed hitter, and

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Speaker 1: Cutch is gonna be.

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Speaker 3: The forever forever. You could very easily sway Suarez. This

782
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 3: is not like a ugh, I'm never gonna be able

783
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: to play.

784
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: Is it that all the more reason why you need

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00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: a good one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as someone who's a huge power bat like that,

787
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: so he can hit home runs over towards that rotanda

788
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Speaker 3: and hit him in the bleachers.

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Speaker 2: Is if it's.

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Speaker 1: Thirty as opposed to forty somewhere else, give me the

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00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: thirty then, and listen exactly, give me the thirty.

792
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Speaker 3: It'll lead the Pirates this year. And not to mention,

793
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: he's gonna hit doubles into that gap. He's gonna have

794
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: the bases going like crazy as he hits it into

795
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 3: the notch. He's I don't think he has the speed

796
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: to get triples himself, but he'll be standing on second

797
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 3: while he clears the bases there. It will definitely play there.

798
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Speaker 3: Tim he's made like seventy four million dollars, he's thirty

799
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 3: four years old. This is kind of like a prove

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00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: it deal in Cincinnati, I and being told like a

801
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 3: one year, fifteen million, give him two to three years

802
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: for forty five million dollars. There's your final contract, Aohennio Suarez.

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00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 3: We'll see in Bradenton in a couple of weeks. There's

804
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 3: no way he'd say no to that. They could play

805
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: at Polo Grounds at Dead Center and he'd be worried

806
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 3: about five hundred feet. He'd take that contract. That's more

807
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: than he'd ever get. Yeah, Ralph Kiner comes back from

808
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: the dead. He gets his old gets his old hands

809
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: back from that little statue out in the outfield. Can't no, Sorry, Ralph,

810
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: go somewhere else in the stadium. We don't want you.

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00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: Go to the Bronx.

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00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: Finished last with you, finish lost without you again. We'll

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00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: do the whole thing all over again, all right. We'll

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Speaker 1: come back with the trifector while we return one o

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Speaker 1: five nine.

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Speaker 2: The X from the one oh five nine the ex

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Speaker 2: Weather Center.

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Speaker 3: on the increase today, might even see a few flurries

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Speaker 3: this afternoon, a hive twenty four overcast Tonight, a few

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Speaker 3: flurries of snowshowers possible, a low of twenty four.

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Speaker 1: It's trifecta time sponsored by Danny's Pizza and Hogi's Family

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Speaker 3: For today's trifecta, it's got to be about the movie

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Speaker 3: Groundhog's Day.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little disappointed.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie Tim that Mark's not here today,

829
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 3: and I'm sure he isn't disappointed at all actually that

830
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 3: he's not here.

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Speaker 2: What is Groundhog Day?

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00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 3: Because Mark is all He loves Oho, very good, I

833
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 3: love was talking about this movie though, one of his favorites,

834
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: and I gotta say it's one of my favorites too.

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Speaker 2: Do you land there with that movie? Ground High? I

836
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: like you, but not as much as you got as

837
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Speaker 2: much as us.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, here are three people that were helped by

839
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 3: Phil Connors in Groundhog's Day as he was kind of

840
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 3: having his rewriting of his character arc to try to

841
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: break the spell. Number three, I'm gonna go with the couple,

842
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 3: you remember, the married couple that he gave advice to

843
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: at the end, and then he gave him tickets to

844
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 3: WrestleMania and Pittsburgh. Now, the reason why I'm doing this, Tim,

845
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: is because a young Michael Shannon is the groom of

846
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: that couple in that movie. I mean, way before he's

847
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: even close to becoming who he is today.

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00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: Boardwalk Empires what really launched him, right, I think that

849
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: was what.

850
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: Put him into the stratosphere.

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00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a great actor though in general, but yeah,

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00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 3: he was one of the groom.

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00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: He's the groom there that he helps.

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00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 3: Number two, of course, is ned Ryerson though buying the

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00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 3: entire insurance policy for him.

856
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: Ned Boom punches him right in the face.

857
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 3: It's great. But the number one person's a little twist

858
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: here that he helps is someone that he can't help,

859
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: the old man. Do you remember that sequence when he

860
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: keeps trying to keep the old man alive but he

861
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 3: always dies at the end of the day. If you remember,

862
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: he's talking to Andy McDowell's character at the diner and

863
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 3: he says he's God. He thinks he's a god. That

864
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: was kind of his moment where he realized he's not

865
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: in fact a god. He can't play god. He can't

866
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 3: save this man's life no matter how hard he tries.

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Speaker 3: But then that gives him the idea that at least

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Speaker 3: that can save other people.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the name of the groundhog that portrayed

870
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: punks to Tani Phil.

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Speaker 3: No, scooter scooter. They didn't actually just do the typical groundhog.

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Speaker 2: Huh. They didn't go get punks a Tony Phil.

873
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: No, No, I didn't. I saw some people posing with

874
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: punks ta Tawny Phil.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: I was up and watched it. You were awake and

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00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: watched it. Yeah, have you ever been there? It's like

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Speaker 2: at seven thirty in the morning.

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00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 3: We's got to see his shadow.

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00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: I guess exactly would you ever do that?

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Speaker 3: I would do that. I was talking about this with

882
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: a damn Scar earlier today on our show This Sears Plus.

883
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 3: I said, I missed my window, like thirty one years old.

884
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: It's too late. This is a college thing.

885
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: But everybody, well now it's a retirement thing for me.

886
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: Oh really Yeah, well yeah, I think I would do

887
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: the arc.

888
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: The other way around. To a man and a woman.

889
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: Every single person I talked to about it, they say

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00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: it's a ten out of a ten experience, like it's

891
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 3: the best party.

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00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that really ever since they hate it.

893
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of drunks kind of stumbling into

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00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: each other.

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00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: But you're the drunk.

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00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, drugs, and even even the groundhog is drunk. Don't

897
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 3: they drug him? Oh? Absolutely they don't. That's a fairal being.

898
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: He would bite your hand off if you took him

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00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 3: out without him being sedated?

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00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: What did Peter say they should substitute him with?

901
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: This time?

902
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: Every year it's something new, right, Peter becomes that was

903
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 3: something new every your abuse to hold a groundhog?

904
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: Up?

905
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: Right?

906
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: How tare they to this poor poor ground I miss?

907
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: But every year they come up with something.

908
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: There's some other thing that they're supposed to be able

909
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: to tell the weather with.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't paying attention to Pete this year? I gotta be

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00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: honest with you. The drunk aspect of it. Apparently you're

912
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Speaker 3: not supposed to go to sleep right like your party

913
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 3: all night in Gobbler's Knob and then you just kind

914
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 3: of stumble out at six seven in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Ah or not.

916
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Speaker 3: And that's a nice mix of crowd there, because it's

917
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: the drunks that stumble out and then the family atmosphere

918
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 3: that comes out at six seven in the morning.

919
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I want to see the groundhog?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well we come back in just thirty seconds.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember.

923
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: How old I was forty nine fifty before I understood

924
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: that Brian Doyle Murray and.

925
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Speaker 3: Bill Murray were related. Is he the mayor of Buster Green?

926
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Speaker 2: Yeah? He is Buster Green.

927
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Speaker 3: And he wrote the movie if I want to, If

928
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Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, Brian Doyle Murray, he wrote it, part

929
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Speaker 3: of it. It was part of the writing crew. He

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00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: writes a lot of stuff. I know he wrote Caddy Shack. Yeah,

931
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 3: it took you that long to figure that out. Yeah,

932
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Speaker 3: I don't know exactly. Like he didn't write Groundhog Day,

933
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Speaker 3: Brian Oyle Murray.

934
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Speaker 1: Okay, you lost me on that one. Yeah, Old Ramis did.

935
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Speaker 1: He was the guy and he's a creator and he

936
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Speaker 1: was in it too.

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00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: He was the doctor.

938
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Speaker 3: Yes, he was a neurologist.

939
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing.

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Speaker 3: He always puts himself in his movies. Question that movie

941
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Speaker 3: caused the rift between Ramis and That's right? Yeah?

942
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: Why they just I think, Uh, there's what's the story

943
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Speaker 2: behind that. I can't remember who it was.

944
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Speaker 3: One of them wanted to go to the more serious tone,

945
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Speaker 3: like the more dramatic kind of resolvement, and the other one.

946
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Speaker 2: Wanted to keep it loose and comedic. I can't remember

947
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Speaker 2: if it was Ramis.

948
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Bill Murray wanted to keep it more serious,

949
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: serious tone. Perhaps Mark knows for sure what the rift

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Speaker 3: was caused by. We'll talk to Mark about it when

951
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Speaker 3: he joins us at what four o'clock o'clock. It'll be

952
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Speaker 3: groundhog Day all over again, because we'll talk about the

953
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Speaker 3: movie some more. Back in thirty seconds, we'll talk, speaking

954
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Speaker 3: of Groundhog Day, about the Steelers coaching higher on one

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Speaker 3: oh five nine the

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Speaker 2: X, now here's your chance